The Best Amiga Games!

This video is to show off the very best Amiga games by year as chosen by LemonAmiga users. Are their choices correct? I suppose that's very subjective. I agree with some, not necesarily with others. But all games are really interesting. Also bonus honorable mentions entries at the "end" for each year. This video took over 50 hours to make, and is technially speaking probably the best I've made, so I really hope that you'll like it!
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0:00 Intro
0:39 1986 - Defender of the Crown
2:54 1986 - Honourable Mentions
3:30 1987 - The Guild of Thieves (‪@JASPP‬)
5:17 1987 - Honourable Mentions
6:13 1988 - Dungeon Master (‪@sasamisa1806‬)
7:47 1988 - Honourable Mentions
8:51 1989 - It Came From The Desert (‪@adalsgaard‬)
10:28 1989 - Honourable Mentions
12:01 1990 - Speedball 2: Brutal Deluxe
13:52 1990 - Honourable Mentions
15:33 1991 - The Secret of Monkey Island (‪@AL82RetrogamingLongplays‬)
17:57 1991 - Honourable Mentions
20:35 1992 - Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge (‪@Hermski‬)
22:10 1992 - Honourable Mentions
23:51 1993 - Dune II: The Battle for Arrakis (‪@einokeino303‬)
25:51 1993 - Honourable Mentions
27:51 1994 - Sensible World of Soccer
29:19 1994 - Honourable Mentions
31:42 1995 - UFO Enemy Unknown (‪@naviamiga‬)
33:29 1995 - Honourable Mentions
34:55 1996 - Slam Tilt (‪@Retro32‬)
37:05 1996 - Honourable Mentions
37:47 Outro
#amiga #bestgames #retrogames #retrogaming

[@J_Stamps86]

UFO Enemy Unknown and X-Com Terror From the Deep were such incredible games and I can easily go back to them now, they feel so timeless.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

I used to replay UFO every year on January for like 6-7 years in the row when I had more time in the past. It was my annual passage. ;)

[@danyoutube7491]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames I've had a few replays of it over the last decade and had a great time all over again. Back in the day I was obsessed with it and played it regularly for years; I think the first time I saw it may have been while browsing in a game shop down south while visiting a relative, and I eagerly spent my pocket money on it. The box art was thrilling and the screenshots on the back had my mouth watering. I read the manual on the journey back up north to our home and couldn't wait to play it. It was one of the best games I ever played on the Amiga and still stands up today as a fun game.

[@arudegesture]

UFO was really bad on the Amiga (slow and stuttering) though and is/was best played on DOS imo.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@arudegesture I totally agree. But before I had my PC, I played it on the Amiga. Also, the choices in the video are LemonAmiga user's picks. :)

[@arudegesture]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames Yeah, I get that. I never owned an Amiga growing up, but my dad had a 286 because of his job (which later got exchanged for a 386, a 486 and then a pentium) that I sometimes could use for playing games (we also had a Nintendo 8 bit). My best friend had an A500 though and I LOVED playing Pirates on it. So I saved enough money to buy the game on PC and....geez...that EGA graphics and PC speaker sound compared to what I'd experienced on the Amiga was horrible. I still played the hell out of it on PC, but it really couldn't compare to the Amiga version. So, sort of the reverse of your experience! ;-)

[@MarquisDeSang]

2:15 the shadow on the wall is beyond amazing, we won't see that for another 20 years with the release of Doom 3.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Yeah, and that was in the 80s!

[@ltdrak]

I believe botn Nocturne (1999) and Severance (2001) had some cool wall shadow effects, fooling the player into yhinking something huge was around the corner, when actually it was just normal sized. Doom 3 was pretty creepy though :D

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@ltdrak I first played Doom 3 on original XBox. It was a blast!

[@Asphodellife]

That was such an amazing port! Xbox was way ahead of PS2 and Gamecube when it comes to raw power.@@OldAndNewVideoGames

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@Asphodellife Yep, and being made on basically PC-class hardware, it was incredibly easy to port games to it.

[@AntipaladinPedigri]

29:13 actually there are studies that link ADHD with reaction time and an inaptitude towards sports. This reaction time impediment is also why ADHD people are significantly more likely to get injured or die in car accidents. I am a sport anti-talent myself with my ADHD.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Oh well, I better keep my eyes glued to the road then when driving. ;)

[@MrYossarianuk]

Amiga had the better selection .I wish it had survived

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Yep, it did. Or... And LemonAmiga users picked better games than MobyGames users did. ;)

[@AntipaladinPedigri]

9:35 "Sounds simple?" *Ant shakes head in response*

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Ha ha ha :) I never noticed but it fits soooo well! :)

[@mattias969]

Man those were the days moonstone and walker ftw

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Yep, Moonstone especially rocked!

[@mattias969]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames oh yeah and the old 80's Cyberpunk aesthetics overall that existed back then. And turrian 2 man

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@mattias969 Yep! :)

[@TheViceman]

Great video, thanks. Brings back so many memories.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Glad you enjoyed it! There's obviously more to come. :)

[@rayrecordings]

Great list: I would add Loom, Maniac Mansion, Day Of The Tentacle

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Makes sense. Though it's according to Lemon Amiga users, and also Day of the Tentacle never came out on the Amiga. Sadly, as it would've been great... And probably something like 20 floppies. ;)

[@Dude_Slick]

Kings Queat, Chamber Of The Sci-Mutant Priestess, Rings Of Medusa, Drakken, Space Quest, Police Quest, Eye Of The Beholder, Pool Of Radiance.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Cool games and awesome names for them too.

[@AntipaladinPedigri]

1:04 you sure killed that one rat with that boulder!

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

That was a trial shot, to check if the catapult would work at all. xD

[@BalloonInTheBalloon]

Somewhat to my amazement I agree with most of these picks. (At least up until 1994 when I sold my Amiga)

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Well, they are universally loved games... :)

[@ltdrak]

Ufo is another game I spent waaaay too much time playing. Loved it.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Same! Though arguably I spent way more time playing it on PC. It just run better.

[@ltdrak]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames I didn't have a pc capable of running anything recent at that time {8088, cga} so I was happy with the Amiga version :)

[@gamingtonight1526]

UFO was so hard - yet so good! A different type of hard compared to Dark Soul's hard!

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@gamingtonight1526 Yep, it relied on your brains and not dexterity. :)

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@ltdrak Oh, Amiga could run circles around CGA/EGA machines. :)

[@morten1]

I miss my Amiga 500. That machine was so good, and the games too But all I can do is remember how good it was back then, and watch these videos.. Can't recreate the same feeling as back when you were a kid ;)

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

You know, I'd agree it's not the same alone anymore, but if you play with others, given you have someone to play those with, then it's nearly the same thing and A LOT of fun :)

[@morten1]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames Yeah, true. I gotta find some other oldies who wanna game Amiga with me :D

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@morten1 :)

[@assassindelasaucisse.4039]

No mention of Flashback? Outrageous! Great video, anyway.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Outrageous indeed! Not my choice of games though. That said, I could've mentioned it in the honourable section, you're right. ;)

[@assassindelasaucisse.4039]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames I'll survive (but barely), keep up the good work :) As an aside, I forgot how gorgeous of a game Defender Of The Crown is, even compared to modern pixel art games. Those projected shadows were incredible for 1986!

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@assassindelasaucisse.4039 Yeah, Cinemaware were the true kings of cinematic experiences of the 80s. Each and every of their releases, whether you cared for the genre of a particular game or not, was an experience of its own.

[@BezoomyKoshka-ip4dz]

Your channel is really nice, but I'm in a relaxing mood so I'm going to comment lots of night time questions to people

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Feel free to do so, and also thank you!

[@SWW_Productions]

A fine list! 👍 Thank you!

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Curtesy of LemonAmiga, at least the picks for the year, honourable mentions is all me. That said, it's heavily redacted, I originally had many more games for each year.

[@sparkythemagicpiano2867]

Flood, Moonstone, Shadow Of The Beast, Syndicate, James Pond, Populous.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Yep, and the public picked what the public picked. ;)

[@ollieduracell]

Some absolute classics on here. Another amiga game I really enjoyed was K240. And Simon the Sorcerer was very humorous too.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Yep, all excellent games. But Lemon Amiga users did not pick them sadly. xD

[@BezoomyKoshka-ip4dz]

So why did nobody make a drive-by shooting simulator in the 80s? That would have made a great arcade game

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@BezoomyKoshka-ip4dz No ESRB.

[@danyoutube7491]

I think the honourable mentions of 1991 show it was a massive year for the Amiga, so many great games there! And the year of the Cartoon Classics Amiga 500 pack, one of the most well loved Amiga packs. '88 seems to have been the year when the software scene was hotting up on the Amiga, and things only got better from there for about 5 years. I'm not sure if I missed it in your list of honourable mentions but I don't think you noted Kick Off, which was a milestone in computer/video football games and I think one of the games which boosted the popularity of the Amiga.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

I think Amiga peaked around 93, and from then onward while it still received decent games, they were not "the best" versions of them anymore. Also, in the late 80s, it had no competition at all. PC was just too far behind. :) Yeah, Kick Off's not there. Sorry.

[@robinbest2729]

My ringtone is the title music for Speedball 2 and my notification sound it Ice Cream, Ice Cream as this is one of my all time favorite games (this was the best version as well). So many memories in this video.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Seriously? That's hella cool! :) Did you ever had someone smile in understanding when they heard that by coincidence? Like a dude in the shop recognising where it's from when it rang? And just then, with a simple head nod, you'd become passing talk-less single serving friends? :)

[@robinbest2729]

Just the other week I was helping my friend move and his sisters boyfriend was with us and when the alert went off it caused him to think about it. He did remember Brutal, which after a couple of decades of this game was pretty good to remember at least that part.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@robinbest2729 A single serving gaming friend. :)

[@jothain]

Very good listing here with those honorables.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Thank you! :) That was the idea. While LemonAmiga users picked certain games, others (often arguably better) should be mentioned too.

[@williamwright9079]

Right on bro! You made my day!

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Thank you! :)

[@renegadecampervan5017]

It came from the desert and wings. Jeez i spent a lot of my youth on them.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Yep, we all did.

[@elcasho]

Brings back to many memories! They should modernise and bring back these games

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

There are a lot of games these days that are being remade by their respective IP owners, or fans of originals. One of my viewers is actually working on a Lost Dutchman Mine remake, which is going to be pretty cool I feel. :)

[@AmigaVR]

Fun video, I guess everyone has a different list😅🤘🏻

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Yep, LemonAmiga while a good source of gaming info for Amiga bases its scores on votes. Not everyone votes. Just like in "real life". ;)

[@jasse803]

As awesome as this list is, I am absolutely puzzled that Barbarian, Obliterator, Championship Manager, Lords of the Rising Sun, (Cinemawares) Basketball and Wayne Gretzky Hockey didnt make the list... Wings was another masterpiece. And who can forget Chrystal Hammer!

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Thank you! And it's according to LemonAmiga score, so I had very little to say when it came to choices. :) Btw. new Amiga themed video will be out around Saturday I think.

[@FunkyBaconArts]

One of my fav Amiga games is Disposable Hero. Such a weird but beautiful looking side scrolling shooter, It relied more on tactics, weapon choice and environmental danger over the more bullet-hell oriented combat we often see today. I really wish I could find another game like it cause so far I have been unsuccessful.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Many of the great games of yesteryears disappeared into oblivion along with the systems they released on. Some are coming back as re-makes, especially in the last few years. But they're few and far between sadly.

[@Asphodellife]

Made by the (Dutch) Boys without Brains, who did Hawkeye and Flimbo's Quest on C64! Very overlooked at the time for (lesser) titles like Project X. Smooth 50fps gameplay with lots going on. Levels only become more impressive the further you go. Although unchanged from the OCS 16 bit title, the CD32 version adds some CD soundtracks and better sound effects on top of it. Great title indeed.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@Asphodellife I've Disposable Hero already scheduled for the third video in my "Exclusive Amiga Games" series. :)

[@Asphodellife]

Also, modern Amiga games like Reshoot-R and Reshoot 3 Proxima are also worth checking out.

[@Asphodellife]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames Nice :)

[@daishi5571]

Defender of the Crown 2 is less a sequel and more a complete edition.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

:)

[@Harp00nX]

While Pinball Fantasies was good at the time and is still good, people only think it's better than Slamtilt due to nostalgia. Objectively it's impossible to argue Slamtilt is not the best pinball game on the Amiga in every way possible. It was what I would consider one of the last true retail shop worthy games released on the Amiga.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

I preferred Fantasies, it was the best mixture between fun and realism for me. That said, it's natural that everyone has their own faves. :)

[@ThommyofThenn]

Ive not played any Amiga titles but I am really interested in them. So many of them have such gorgeous and compelling art styles

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Yep, there was a time when you could tell Amiga game just by looking at the screenshots.

[@nicholsliwilson]

Defender of the Crown is so impressive. I know the Amiga version wasn’t the best but it was still impressive. Honestly I didn’t enjoy the home releases of Marble Madness nearly as much as the arcade game because that had a track ball to play with. The Guild of Thieves is new to me too but we agree on text parsers so I don’t feel I missed much. I played Déjà Vu on the Gameboy Color of all platforms! Still got the cartridge, it was surprisingly good. Dungeon Master was very impressive for the time but did’t really hit with me, it was too slow paced but I recognise it for what it was. Also how did it beat the Amiga release of Bubble Bobble? How I ask you, how?! Never mind Elite & Great Giana Sisters? Giana Sisters got blocked by Nintendo… & every Amiga owner played it. So that worked well. It Came From the Desert was fantastic, even with the difficulty. I have no idea why it’s never had a remake or even a SBIG movie? Maniac Mansion is something everyone should play, even if you have no nostalgia for old systems. Speedball 2 really deserves it’s place here, especially multiplayer. Friendships could be challenged by an extended play session though. 😄 Cracking list of other games from the same year though. Secret of Monkey Island was incredible when it released & frankly still is. If you care about the history of games it’s one you must play & the Amiga version was fantastic. Formula 1 Grand Prix is so impressive & Another World was peerless in it’s day. Monkey Island 2 was a fantastic followup to the original… right up to an ending I hated. Flashback is excellent & I have it on multiple platforms & yeh, Pinball Fantasies is hands down the best 2D pinball. Dune II is an important part of gaming history & I never got in to it, even in it’s day. Come on, how is Frontier not the top game here? Cannon Fodder is fantastic, as is lost Vikings & Indiana Jones & the Fate of Atlantis is the best of a great series. Super Frog rocks too. Sensible World of Soccer is impressive but… meh. Benefactor is a must play if you never have & honestly so is Dreamweb. Ruff & Tumble is a true hidden gem that should be better known. UFO: Enemy Unknown is a masterpiece. I’m not big on this kind of game & I love it. Hows that for an endorsement? Alien Breed 3D really showed what the Amiga could do & should have helped to keep the platform going. Worms is a multiplayer masterpiece. Even though I love my video pinball games I never played Slam Tilt because I’d moved on to PC & PSX at this point but with modern options to play I’ll be downloading it. Gloom Deluxe is great & should be better remembered. Wow I’ve rambled on here, sorry but what an interesting list, thanks. Also thanks for Omen Exito, it’s interesting.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Defender of the Crown was an Amiga game. But it was rushed. So it was missing some small things here and there. It could be argued that all of them put together made a difference but it's irrelevant today. But presentation-wise (so graphics and sound/music) it was heaps ahead of any other system at the time. :) Yeah Giana released in the interesting times. Cause while it only stayed for few months on the shelves, it populated diskettes swapped between the gamers for years. :) Or also for few months, cause whomever got it, never overwrote it. OMG YES! YES! It Came from the Desert b-movie would be fantastic! Something in the vein of "They Live" or "Killer Tomatoes" or "Sharknado". Something so bad, it would become an instant cult classic. I'd go to see that. Yeah, Formula 1 GP on Amiga shouldn't exist. I mean it does, and it's great, but it was such an advanced title that I would imagine that it would required something like a beefy 386 or 486 to pull off. And yet, it was on the Amiga. I sense a little bit less there for Superfrog, am I right? I mean it's there, but bit less than for the rest? Not judging, just curious. Oh, yeah, and there'll be two pinball games in the next video. :) I should hopefully have it out for you tomorrow evening, and for YT on Tuesday. If not then a day later. But tomorrow seems feasible as I've already recorded voice overs for it today and it's an episode for one of my series and not a "Best" video that takes a while to produce. :)

[@nicholsliwilson]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames No! Not at all but I feel like Super Frog speaks for itself, it really is one of the best platformers on the system. Rough & Tumble & Fire & Ice maybe look better but Super Frog has a clean flow to the way it plays, if that makes sense to anyone but me? 😄

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@nicholsliwilson Makes perfect sense. It's classical in how it looks, that's non disputable fact. It only surprises you with hidden areas, passages, and caches when you play it. :)

[@EvilStreaks]

You (honourable) mentioned Mega Lo Mania and I jumped up. But I have to ask; why didn't you derail the whole vid premise at that point to just talk about Mega Lo Mania for 4 hours?

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Batman said that if I ever go on a rant as long as I did with Mordor, he'll end me. Whatever that means. xD

[@Dude_Slick]

I used to love the jousting in DOTC.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

I used to be able to play it. I recently realised that many of the games that I played often back then are either very difficult to me now, or I don't know how to play them at all anymore. xD

[@GummoNZ]

Am I remembering correctly that if you hit their horse you lose all your lands?

[@ltdrak]

I liked speedball 2 from 1990, and as a side note I managed to nab a copy of Silent Service 2 in a big box a few weeks ago :) Also played both monkey islands, when i had my Amiga stationed at a friends house during the sommer holidays. Good times! I was never really any good at Dune 2 ;) I think I played or watched most of the games you also named for all the years.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Oh, are you gonna open and play that Silent Service II or is that a copy "to keep"?

[@ltdrak]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames as it is not sealed I am planning on testing the disks some time soon. If they work I might spend a few hours playing.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@ltdrak While I appreciate how convenient modern online releases are, how I can just download and run the game on any of the machines that I have, had or will have, all with a single click, I miss the big box releases of yesteryears. It was always a mini holiday bringing that game home, opening it and seeing everything that was included.

[@minidolly77]

OMG Laser Squad !!! 😍😍😍

[@jothain]

One of the most influential games indeed that gamers tend to forget. Only played it on c64 but it was awesome on it.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Yep, Laser Squad and UFO in one video. :)

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Oh, it was pretty much the same and as playable on all systems it came out on. So you played one, you played them all. Sure, some systems had it with addon in one package, but other than that, it was identical.

[@preservingpast]

no Carrier Command from 1988? i have a feeling that those rankings are made by ppl that did not play those games when they was released

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

It's based on Lemon Amiga Scores, so user's picks so to speak.

[@TheStrongmansteve]

Someone help me out here. I remember a game on thr Amiga that was set in some kind of hospital and you had to escape from zombies or something. I remember my older brother playing it and i cant remember what the game is called

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Here you go: www.lemonamiga.com/games/details.php?id=1166 Hope that helps. :)

[@Brendanasdfdsf]

Love your video's but this confused me and made it hard to work with the split screen thing. Kept thinking the sound and video had got un-synced

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Yeah, you mentioned it with the other one. I'll think of a different way to show off these if there's ever a reason to do so again. Btw. new (normal) video on Thursday hopefully. There'll be nothing confusing in it. Other than omnipresent cringe and bad puns that is. ;)

[@Toon_Pirate]

So many good games. Now, go spray Batman with vinegar so he stops wiping his boogers everywhere

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

He's a bit nasty but overall good guy! :)

[@diegofloor]

Prince of Persia as a honourable mention is insane

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

What can I say... Lemon Amiga scores. xD

[@GiacomoFabbrocino]

I cannot believe Lionheart is not in this list!!!

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

It's LemonAmiga users choices, so sadly I couldn't just add it in. I may do my own at some point.

[@chriswilloughby48]

Steam says your activation of Omen Exito plague has not been completed and has been activated by an existing account.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

It means that someone has already picked the code up. They usually go within couple of hours from video's release.

[@HarmonixJourney]

Did you know there's a remake of defender of the crown on the xbox? I was today's years old when I found out it's also on PC. "Robin Hood: Defender of the crown"

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Oh... That actually kinda gave me the idea for a video on modern remakes of classic games. I gotta remember to make it somewhere. Thanks! :) Oh, and no, I didn't know.

[@HarmonixJourney]

Haha! Happy to help! You're welcome. :)

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@HarmonixJourney We have this, Flashback, UFO, and there's many others. That would actually be a pretty fun video. Or series if there's plenty enough remakes/re-imaginations to warranty a few videos.

[@HarmonixJourney]

That would be some epic videos. Off the top of my head, there's also the remaster of "Wings", "Archon" and the "bard's tales trilogy"

[@HarmonixJourney]

Found a good list on wikipedia with remasters and remakes if you need some ideas: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_game_remakes_and_remastered_ports

[@dilbertfish]

I quite liked Qwak. Nice game.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Yep :)

[@ihateevilbill]

12:04 Me and my pal wold play Speedball 2 just to hear that crowd shout XD Pity I was literally the worst at the game. My blind, dead granma would beat me, even now. Golden axe was my 2nd favourite arcade game (in order: Double Dragon, Golden Axe and Robocop). I could complete the first two on one coin, the latter however, I never completed.. I was never that rich... hell, Im still not that rich ;) Wait... Wings of Fury was like jetstrike (one of my favourite amiga games)? I honestly never played it because I thought it was a 3D flight sim. What even is my life? It's all been a lie! XD Lotus 1 and Pinball Fantasies/Illusions were the most played games on my amiga. There was a 90% chance of walking in on me playing one of the three. When friends came over it would be Arcade Pool and Champ Man Italia.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

I understand the popularity of Double Dragon, but I never got into it myself. Never loved them as much as the others did. And I suppose it's cause the first time I played a beat'em up, much newer and better looking titles were available. So, I had no melancholy for it. I think... Golden Axe was fire though! Wings of Fury was excellent. But I preferred Jetstrike to it cause it was more varied in its missions design and tons of different crafts, while Wings of Fury only had one. But, it was an incredible game nonetheless. Pinball Fantasies was a solid 60% for me. But when we played with friends, with more than 3 of us, it was either it, or Arcade Pool, Scorched/Worms, Moonstone or Kingpin Bowling. Very rarely something else. Well, unless we played a single player game to complete it, alternating swapping on life loss or level completion.

[@gumdeo]

Secret of Monkey Island - I am yet to come across someone that dislikes this game. And Lucasfilm were nice enough to improve the music for the Amiga version.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

There is one person. I had a comment about it around a week or so ago. It wasn't like a negative one or anything, it's just the person said that the humour didn't land for them and preferred something else.

[@lurkerrekrul]

Not only the music, the whole game was properly ported to the Amiga, including the graphics and the game engine. When Sierra ported their games, they just copied over the EGA palette and the games were so poorly optimized that having a couple of moving items on the screen would visibly slow down the whole game.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@lurkerrekrul Well, one company was milking cows, the other was writing jokes about cows. xD

[@Khmx8]

Please make the game titles/year on the top right bigger plz =) very hard to read otherwise when not in full screen mode. Cheers & Ty =)

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

I'm constantly trying to find a sweet spot for them to be readable and yet not too big to cover too much of the games. It's a small thing but surprisingly tough to figure out. ;)

[@nixneato]

This is an awesome video but why did you feature the honorable mentions in such a small window? What a shame...

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Yeah, someone also mentioned that it was distracting. Truth be told, I don't know. I went with this stylistic choice and it was a miss. But you learn from mistakes and you correct them in the future. :)

[@nixneato]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames Remember I said the video is awesome, right? :) 'cause it really is! I certainly didn't mean for that one negative detail to be the only thing that stands out of my comment. And I still subbed :) Thanks for all the work and memories!

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@nixneato Oh, I didn't take it personally. Don't worry about that. I just want the videos to get better and better, so every little detail is something I sometimes obsess over. xD

[@nyoodmono4681]

Perihelion The Prophecy

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

I was considering it but had to cut on content a little as the honourable mentions already take as much time as each game takes in its coverage. Sorry. :)

[@nyoodmono4681]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames 🙂

[@Alianger]

Dune Legacy is how to play Dune 2 today imho

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Makes sense.

[@schedarr]

to put canon fodder into honourable mentions is a blashpemy

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

I agree. But that was the only way of having it in, when the whole list is based on LemonAmiga user's choices. :)

[@cekuhnen]

I agree!

[@lurkerrekrul]

Speedball II - The computer cheats. The computer is always in control of its players, and when your men are off the screen, they're controlled by the computer as well. When the computer grabs the ball and lobs it down the field, one of his men is always in position to catch it. When YOU throw the ball down the field and it comes down, all of your guys are off in the edges of the screen, twiddling their thumbs. In other words, the computer never moves one of your men into position to catch the ball, like it does for its own men. If that isn't cheating, what is it? I mean, there's no way that you can move your guys into position while they're off the screen and you don't get control of any of them until the screen scrolls to show them, as the ball is already coming down. And by the time you move one of your guys to grab the ball, one of his guys is there to knock you over and steal it. Also, trying to use the bonus multipliers on the sides of the field is pointless since the computer will ALWAYS throw it right back around. Frontier - I found this to be an amazing tech demo, but a lousy game. Since it simulates realistic travel time between planets, (excluding hyperspace), you need to use time acceleration to get anywhere without it taking literal days. You also need to accelerate to about 1,000,000,000 KPH. This takes several (accelerated) hours to reach, but when you encounter an enemy, it drops you back to real time, but you're still traveling at 1,000,000,000 KPH. Meaning that while you can turn and slightly adjust your trajectory, you can't actually maneuver. Think of it this way: You jump out of a plane without a parachute. You can turn and somewhat alter your course by tilting your body, but you can't just stop, or reverse course and go back up. No matter what you do, you're still going to be falling toward the ground at high speed. It's the same in Frontier, only instead of falling, you're flying in a given direction at high speed. Sure you could decelerate, but it would take you hours of real time to do it. All of which turns combat into a jousting match where you rarely even get to see the other ship up close. Gone are the fun dogfights from Elite. Then there are the bugs. Almost every session with Frontier ended in a crash for me. You could crash the game simply by trying to get info on some star systems. And because of the realistic motion of the planets, most people needed to use the auto-pilot to get anywhere, but the auto-pilot was prone to crashing you into planets. And why is it that the auto-pilot can instantly decelerate your ship when it reaches the destination, but you can't do that for combat?

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Speedball II cheats, sure. But that's what the game designers have been doing for years. I mean even Civilization in its latest iterations does that. So, 5 and 6. When you go over King I believe in the difficulty level, and King is incredibly easy I must add, the AI gets not only bonuses to yields and smaller penalties for all the mistakes, but also extra units at start. Mortal Kombat II cheated even in the arcades, not to mention home versions. It's inevitable that sometimes, when devs don't know how to program a well working AI, they will resort to cheating. Regarding Frontier I can't agree with you. I mean I can but I won't. ;) I get the issues, bugs and occasional crashes (though my time spent playing it on PC vs Amiga was probably 10 to 1) but I wasn't playing it for the realism, I was playing it for the grand space adventure that was so open, that I had to create it all on my own. It was a sandbox supreme, where you could literally sink in and just "live" doing whatever you felt doing. Within the confines of what game allows for. For me, it was a fundamental game for others to come and easily hundreds of hours of fun. Maybe more. Still, the fact that I don't agree, doesn't mean that I don't see your point and technical limitations of it. :)

[@lurkerrekrul]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames I always get disappointed when a programmer allows the AI to cheat. For example in Archon II, the wraith is invisible in 2-player, except when attacking, but visible in 1-player. They could have easily programed it so that the AI only knows where you are when you attack, and just have the computer player move randomly when it doesn't know your position. As for Frontier, I was expecting game with the playability of Elite, but in a much bigger universe. I got the bigger universe, but for me, the fun was lacking. I even attacked a space station, just to start a dogfight at maneuvering speed and found the combat to be quite clunky compared to the the original game. Most of the time, I would just load it up and marvel at the scale of things like space stations. I also discovered that the domes on the planets weren't solid and you could fly right through them. You could also fly through the box-like structures on top of those big, boxy cargo ships (like the one in the intro). Having said that, I really didn't like Elite on the Amiga either. It was fast and colorful, and at first I was blown away by it. Then I realized that it felt empty compared to the 8-bit versions. You never encounter friendly ships, they're always pirates. If you have a military laser, as soon as the alert pops up, you can come to a stop, and snipe them from a distance while you're still out of range of their weapons. Rather than feeling like you're part of a living universe, it feels more like an arcade shooting gallery. I loved Elite on the C64, but the Amiga version needed a little more work. They didn't even put in the "Dodo" stations. :(

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@lurkerrekrul OK, I understand your point of view. :) It was not what you were expecting, and the "cheating" was that final drop. :)

[@borispecic9819]

Aa no. Where is International karate F18 Interceptor North and South Ports of call ---?---

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Clearly not within choices of Lemon Amiga users. ;)

[@borispecic9819]

It's all right. Batman the caped crusader was one of my favorites and the first batman game ever. I almost get crazy to finish it. On KZbin i found the walk through after 35 years.

[@borispecic9819]

And sorry i saw you mentioned ports of call

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@borispecic9819 So, did you? Did you finish it after so many years with that walkthrough?

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@borispecic9819 :)

[@twankistevenson3884]

Not a lot can be argued with there

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Depends how deep you wanna get into the comments section. ;) But thank you! :)

[@thegreathadoken6808]

Hi, I am a competitive nose-picker and I would just like to say that your lack of knowledge of our thriving sport is decidedly lamentable.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

I would gladly learn of all the rules if I wasn't already engaged in the nail-bitting competition. Surprisingly competitive sport. Especially if you run out of all the nails of your own. ;)

[@grendelbiter303]

I really don't like the small monitor in the corner and disagree with a lot of your honorable mentions.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Good. Cause if we all would think the same, it would be boring. What about LemonAmiga users choices for the games? Do you think these are spot on?

[@grendelbiter303]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames Seems to be mostly a pretty solid list. I don't care for all the soccer games (manager and action). One game that is really missing from that list (and yours) is Desert Strike. I have to admit I've never heard of Slam Tilt before.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@grendelbiter303 My personal list needs re-doing truth be told. But that's something for the future. I've others I wanna do first. :)

[@danyoutube7491]

@@grendelbiter303 I loved football games but I agree that Desert Strike was a very good game. Mind you, if one were to list all the great games on the Amiga for the years 1989-1994 you'd have a very long video.