The BEST (and Most DISAPPOINTING) Cars of 2023!

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@theaveragewoodsman6002
@theaveragewoodsman6002 9 ай бұрын
Toyota hybrids aren't the issue. It's the push from ultra reliable NA engines to turbocharged ones. Turbo engines objectively just don't last as long. Especially in trucks and SUVs.
@matthewgoedtel5998
@matthewgoedtel5998 9 ай бұрын
Toyota turbo engines should be much more reliable than the turbo engines Ford and Chevy put out.
@qx4n9e1xp
@qx4n9e1xp 8 ай бұрын
Thank the EPA, not Toyota.
@Pepe-dq2ib
@Pepe-dq2ib 8 ай бұрын
It's weird that the us is skeptical about toyota turbo because it's fairy new. Outside of the us, they've had toyota turbos and turbo diesels since forever.
@bradcomis1066
@bradcomis1066 9 ай бұрын
The HRV is probably the worst looking car of 2023. Pretty sad. Not sure why it isn't a mini CR-V.
@lordcorgi6481
@lordcorgi6481 9 ай бұрын
The problem with any Modern GM is reliability. They're cheap, look good, but if you make it to 60k without needing a transmission or engine you're the lucky one. I've had to work on so many 3 cylinder engines or transmissions I've lost count.
@thomasluby1754
@thomasluby1754 8 ай бұрын
Oddly enough, I was just on Consumer Reports and was shocked to see the Trail Blazer given a 96/100 in reliability. However, for some strange reason Customer Satisfaction was only 1/5. I am looking at a Subaru Crosstrek or Forester as my 2015 Ford Escape has been one level below a nightmare.
@raincarmicheal2348
@raincarmicheal2348 6 ай бұрын
I completely agree. The extended warranty on my Colorado Z-71 was set to expire soon. It never shifted correctly it's entire life, and I am sure it was just hanging on until the warranty was over. I just traded it in on a Nissan Frontier. I'll miss the 30MPG my duramax got, but not the constant trips to the dealer to fix all the problems I've had with the truck. It only had 47K miles when I traded it in, and it had more problems in that time than my 200k VW TDi has had it's entire life.
@marcbowen5559
@marcbowen5559 9 ай бұрын
Refreshing not to have to listen to Roman rambling for 30 minutes before you get to the point. Yeah!.
@matthewprather7386
@matthewprather7386 9 ай бұрын
I’ve thought he’s been struggling with a lack of sharpness for awhile.. Recently he said he’d been through some medical issues.. You can tell.
@ElliottTucker1050
@ElliottTucker1050 9 ай бұрын
I'll take Roman vs Pig Pen(peanuts gang)any day of the week! Dad is just more matter of fact aside from knowing HOW to Use a comb! Like IF***this had come out while we were still in Denver. I'd have driven to Boulder. & taped a big red comb to their door. Only vaguely aware of where they are bc I walk my dog at the park close to them 😂. I don't even think I'd HAVE to say Whom it was for.
@jeffreytreasure8
@jeffreytreasure8 9 ай бұрын
You better go watch savagegeese on the corolla, it has a bunch of problems and they all show up two laps into a track day! cooling, clutches on the differential, intake air temp, in the video they list about 10 issues.
@06XTOR
@06XTOR 9 ай бұрын
Yep. And this inside is so freaking cheap
@screenPhiles
@screenPhiles 9 ай бұрын
I'm confused. If a dealer comes with some insane markup, just walk out. No one is forcing people to accept being screwed over.
@SeanDuPhotographer
@SeanDuPhotographer 9 ай бұрын
Nowadays just about anything can be called an SUV, what's the point of advertising a vehicle as such?
@B86432
@B86432 9 ай бұрын
everything drastically overpriced & not worth your time
@TheCapn23
@TheCapn23 9 ай бұрын
Yet they continue to sell. That means they're not overpriced.
@amazingjason455
@amazingjason455 9 ай бұрын
Cars are not more valuable, our money is less valuable.
@matthewprather7386
@matthewprather7386 9 ай бұрын
Time to increase your income..
@bawintermage8351
@bawintermage8351 9 ай бұрын
​@@TheCapn23No, it means people are stupid!
@jensalan
@jensalan 9 ай бұрын
​@@bawintermage8351 Everything has increased in price, not just cars. By your logic, people should stop renting apartments, buying/building homes, groceries, electricity, etc because those have also all increased significantly in price in just the last few years.
@robmad0
@robmad0 9 ай бұрын
Fingers crossed on that prelude concept. I'm just worried that dealer markups will kill it like the type r
@MaxamillianStudio
@MaxamillianStudio 9 ай бұрын
Looking at hybrid... Here is my concern, I would love it.... All the way until it cost $7-12k to replace the batteries. So spending $40k for 150-170 k miles doesn't work for me.
@mbsnyderc
@mbsnyderc 9 ай бұрын
I don't think any of these crossover suv's are attractive or something I want.
@thekat-dg9fx
@thekat-dg9fx 9 ай бұрын
Re: the bZ4X, it isn't just the limited range and slow charging that limit it's ability to drive longer distances. Anyone patient enough to give it a try on a road trip will potentially discover the cap on fast charging per 24 hours. Prior to a major update that they announced in the US at the end of July, it could only be fast charged for 2 cycles from 10-80%. On the slower AWD, that meant even with starting at 100%, it can go about 400 miles at freeway speeds before throttling fast charging to 13 kW or slower. This is a 24 hour restriction, so even if you split a drive to be afternoon and evening one day, and morning to afternoon the next day, that throttle will still be in effect until 24 hours after that first fast charge. This restriction is not explicitly listed in the manual, and is only buried in a footnote in the online FAQ. With a dealership installed update, that bumps the limit up to 3.8 cycles, which increases that limit to around 620 miles. This effectively means that I would be more able to do a 850 mile drive from my home to my parents in less time in a Chevy Bolt than a bZ4X, for half as much money. This restriction is ostensibly to extend battery longevity, but the warrantee on the battery is no better on the Toyota than any other EV on the market.
@thekat-dg9fx
@thekat-dg9fx 9 ай бұрын
I will not that it's hilarious that TFL is more disappointed in the Toyota bZ4X than the Vinfast V8.
@TheCapn23
@TheCapn23 9 ай бұрын
Toyota is behind in the EV space. I think Ford and GM will really hit it out of the park with their next generation of EVs. They're getting through all the growing pains now.
@bostondan77
@bostondan77 9 ай бұрын
Didn’t know about the 24 hour limit, absolutely insane.
@JeffKubel
@JeffKubel 9 ай бұрын
That is insane, but it's a reminder that repeated DC fast charging will trash a battery. Battery technology just isn't here for that kind of use, unfortunately.
@surferdude4487
@surferdude4487 8 ай бұрын
@@JeffKubel The truth is that charging no higher than 80% with decent thermal management is no harder on the battery than trickle charging at home. What Toyota is really saying is that just like the Leaf, their thermal management sucks. If you want a BEV, buy a Tesla. They are serious about electrification while the legacy auto manufacturers are only building compliance vehicles.
@TheCapn23
@TheCapn23 9 ай бұрын
Bolt EUV is the best value on the market. Get you one while you still can!
@atmartens
@atmartens 9 ай бұрын
The nice thing about the Chevy and Buick is at least it’s not a classic rebadge… they changed it up. The people wanting the Buick won’t have kids and something sleeper. Honda’s Prelude looks beautiful. I hope they do build it. The Santa Fe design does look really good. I just can’t get passed their engine and reliability issues. I don’t agree about some cars needing AWD. AWD takes away gas mileage and adds complexity. I live in the Midwest and as much as I love my AWD RDX, it’s not always something that’s required. For an entry level car I think it’s totally fine not having it. Lastly shocked that there’s no mention of the Integra Type S. Easily one of the best cars this year.
@drnick40
@drnick40 9 ай бұрын
Dealers which charge mark ups should be condemned. Everyone should write a negative Google review. Social media can hurt a lot!
@TheScottAF
@TheScottAF 9 ай бұрын
I see everyone hyped on Kia/Hyundai lately. Lest we forget this is the same company that made engine failure its pastime. Or the massive theft issues. Trying to make their turds look a lot fancier now.
@Pepe-dq2ib
@Pepe-dq2ib 8 ай бұрын
I also like the timeless designs from other manufacturers. kia/hyundai looks old in a few years when the next futuristic/busy design comes out, which is every 2-3 years.
@allanw6103
@allanw6103 9 ай бұрын
I agree w Nathan, Toyota keeping the reg highlander w a 3rd row is redundant. i guess theres a market for small 3 row suvs bc kia is keeping their 3rd row in the sorrento and hyundai is putting one BACK in the santa fe for some reason. they really should offer a 2row xrt and give it some OR chops to compete w the passport ts. perhaps toyota should ditch the 3rd row as well and turn the HL into a BEV? i kinda prefer the jeep 4xe gc/th over the landcruiser bc they put the battery underneath, albeit only 17kw and poss more cargo room than a landcruiser. jeep 4xe cost more so they need to lose some features and make it competitive w LC. well see who comes out on top with all these new fangled turbo hybrids. toyota not putting a v6 in the next 4runner is unfortunate. i think they will lose sales but a turbo 4 should be peppier than the old v6 just like the new tacoma is faster. the hybrid and 3rd row should be optional in the sequoia as well. the rear cargo space is terrible.
@bonusb2924
@bonusb2924 9 ай бұрын
Marked up Toyotas…bwahahaha
@lisam1196
@lisam1196 8 ай бұрын
I can't wait to drive the Lexus GX 550. Beautiful design. I'm looking to get a SUV and my current brand, Audi, has very boring designs when it comes to SUV's.
@JJ4213FL
@JJ4213FL 7 ай бұрын
The only reliable 3 cylinder engines are 3 cylinder diesels in 1970's-80's Ford tractors. Funny that the best GM has to offer now are 3 cylinder turbo, bargain basement models designed in Korea. Another typical GM disappointment.
@buzzpedrotti5401
@buzzpedrotti5401 7 ай бұрын
Listen to the Car Care nut, Toys are among the best, but they are not perfect. New models with new tech and higher performing stressed systems are likely to fail sooner. A proven 4Runner with fewer systems and more long lived components is likely to live much longer with much lower carrying costs at a $10k lower price than the miniLandCtuiser.
@garnetheron4885
@garnetheron4885 8 ай бұрын
You said something interesting just now peoples memories are long and drive a diesel Volkswagen bought it over 20 years ago love Volkswagens I own two what but 20 years ago I had a small problem in the car was new and the dealer screwed me since then I’ve learned to work on my car myself to everything I’ve never been back to a dealership since I’ve never bought a new car since because as far as I’m concerned, what is the point of buying a new car if it’s gonna break immediately and they don’t fix it under warranty or even give you a loaner so in my book I got them backbecause I’ve never bought a new car again even for my girls my two kids and I fix all the cars myself
@Photoboy1948
@Photoboy1948 9 ай бұрын
Great show. I haven’t watched in way too long and barely recognized Tommy. No glasses (contacts or lasik?) and he seems to have put on some weight (got married or is working out?)
@garnetheron4885
@garnetheron4885 8 ай бұрын
I would go buy one of those Toyota curlers right now if they were available in a few years when they become used, I probably will be able to get they’re too hot right now. Also like that new Toyota hybrid Prius.
@texandy89
@texandy89 9 ай бұрын
The Ford Focus RS was a cool hot hatchback to bad Ford axed it
@markcoopers1930
@markcoopers1930 9 ай бұрын
It's fine. All they need to do is buy another company who knows how to design small vehicle platforms for them. Last time they did, it lasted +20 years. And technically it's still not fully gone
@damilolaakanni
@damilolaakanni 9 ай бұрын
​@markcoopers1930 it's supposed to end production globally in 2025. So there's not much time left for the Focus.
@matthewdenboer1076
@matthewdenboer1076 9 ай бұрын
Own a Wangler and a Bolt EUV... I am insanely happy with the EUV as a commuter car, ESPCIALLY at the price point as you guys point out! Appreciate the review!
@damilolaakanni
@damilolaakanni 9 ай бұрын
The Prelude was not related to the Civic in any way. Different engines, different platforms.
@lordrayden3045
@lordrayden3045 9 ай бұрын
As soon as I saw tommy was here I stopped…. So sorry, you get like 8 seconds of watch time and a comment for my engagement
@johnlogan6212
@johnlogan6212 9 ай бұрын
Vinfast made a bad choice mimicking the Mach E witch does not sell well at all and Ford makes bad choices all the time. Vins choice may be fatal.
@1falconron
@1falconron 9 ай бұрын
do not pay above MSRP why be upside down Toyota is mad about this and is increasing production
@damilolaakanni
@damilolaakanni 9 ай бұрын
My guess is that the 2024 Passport will drive like the 2023, since not much has changed. BTW, it would be a good idea if you mention all the good cars together first before mentioning the disappointing ones, instead of mixing the two.
@atmartens
@atmartens 9 ай бұрын
Or go by brand and not a random bag. Toyota was brought up first, half way and at the end. Go by make.
@youtubecarspottersguide1
@youtubecarspottersguide1 9 ай бұрын
like the Lexus GX550 over trail , no 3rd row and a credit. opt for no moonroof $68150 , should sell lot of them im not even looking at the sequoia TRD pro$83k with its useless cargo space with the fold down 3rd row takes up to much cargo space
@youtubecarspottersguide1
@youtubecarspottersguide1 9 ай бұрын
do like the Santa Fe box redesign
@Autobotmech
@Autobotmech 9 ай бұрын
I disagree with the HRV review. Now the size being different , and space being different, going from a 2017 to a 2024 is night and day. The 2.0 motor has more guts then the 1.8 , the sport mode works better, the options are much better as well, grated our machine is a NAVI the highest trim level , however the only thing I hold against our machine is the lack of powered seats.
@aaronbehindbars
@aaronbehindbars 9 ай бұрын
The new HR-V is more refined with a nicer looking interior, but that's it. Honda could have made the larger overall size translate to a bier i terior, but they missed an oppprtunity there. Also, it needs more power and better fuel economy. As much as I like the simplicity of NA engines, Honda should have used the 1.6T in the higher trim Civics to achieve both. A hybrid version could also achieve those objectives.
@Pepe-dq2ib
@Pepe-dq2ib 8 ай бұрын
Hyundai/kia/genesis likes to copy luxury european car designs.
@kylewhisman
@kylewhisman 9 ай бұрын
That Buick seems nice but will never buy it until they add AWD
@charlesnickell7257
@charlesnickell7257 9 ай бұрын
Out of all the vehicles that's are come out I personally like the new santa fa
@JohnLee-db9zt
@JohnLee-db9zt 7 ай бұрын
The new BMW M2 looks like a Dodge. 😂
@baronvonjo1929
@baronvonjo1929 8 ай бұрын
I thought the Trax was kinda cool when it came out. However I have never heard of so many issues with a single new car like I have with that thing. I saw one in person with a bad drl. Then Ive seen reviews where stuff like the windows didnt work. Then a owner saying how terrible its been and he sold it. You could chuck it up as teething issues being a first model year. But it has been produced for a while before coming to the US. I wonder is the Buick varients suffers from the same issues. Anyway its pretty disappointing. That 3 banger already was a red flag coming from General Motors.
@jamisonjamisonx
@jamisonjamisonx 9 ай бұрын
That new Hyundai Sante Fe...it's the Ford Flex without the Ford part :) Also, besides the body panels, what are any other differences between the Ford Bronco Sport and the Ford Escape? (hint: same chassis, same powertrain, same pretty much everything else...but does look better and costs a lot more).
@hereigoagain5050
@hereigoagain5050 9 ай бұрын
Tommy is the new and improved Roman.
@luiscruz-if1sg
@luiscruz-if1sg 9 ай бұрын
I agree with you guys with the Honda HRV it reminds me of a Ford looks like a lazy design the last generation it looks better even overseas HRVs are nicer looking to me.
@damilolaakanni
@damilolaakanni 9 ай бұрын
The overseas HR-Vs are ugly, IMO. It's the previous generation (I like the coupe-like styling and the "magic seats") or the US models (much cleaner front end) for me.
@atmartens
@atmartens 9 ай бұрын
The last generation HRV was the worst Honda my family has owned. And we’ve had every model minus the Element and CRZ.
@theantiqueactionfigure
@theantiqueactionfigure 9 ай бұрын
Bought a lightly used 2018 2500 turbodiesel in January 2019, right before the big bug was turned loose. It still books out for more than I paid for it. Retired at 70 years old, I doubt I'll ever need another truck fortunately. Only 55,xxx on the clock right now.
@jesusmaciasfranco6276
@jesusmaciasfranco6276 9 ай бұрын
It might perform poorly and be smaller, but I disagree from a design standpoint regarding the Honda H-RV. I think it’s a major upgrade design wise, definitely noticed way more on the road after the redesign.
@06XTOR
@06XTOR 9 ай бұрын
Stoppppp. Don't act like Ram is a different brand than Dodge... All the same Nathan
@jamesbaird1342
@jamesbaird1342 9 ай бұрын
Speaking of lemonade, I have a neighbor who has a showroo restored Pinto. I don't know him but see it on the road .
@agj3358
@agj3358 9 ай бұрын
I can understand not including the list in the description but you should at least put up a screenshot with a list at the end.
@jamesclapp6940
@jamesclapp6940 9 ай бұрын
consumers have a very long memory when it comes to dealer "ADM"
@billshoe22191
@billshoe22191 9 ай бұрын
Saying a Toyota is reliable because it is a Toyota is frustrating.
@Pepe-dq2ib
@Pepe-dq2ib 8 ай бұрын
They are not? Every person i personally know has never had one that wasnt.
@JeffKubel
@JeffKubel 9 ай бұрын
Didn't like the BZ4X because of the range (252 miles), but liked the EV6 GT (206 miles)?
@BogeyTheBear
@BogeyTheBear 9 ай бұрын
BZ4X carries you to those 250 miles at 200 hp. The EV6 GT gets you only 200 miles when you use all 500+ horses to get there.
@rossmartens
@rossmartens 9 ай бұрын
You nailed the closing statement 👏 spot on man absolutely disgusting what the top dogs in our world do to get rich greed and lies are the worst qualities of any human
@thomasluby1754
@thomasluby1754 8 ай бұрын
Ever hear of a period or comma?
@edandmelissacamus8098
@edandmelissacamus8098 9 ай бұрын
Crosstrek?
@drnick40
@drnick40 9 ай бұрын
I would buy the new Land Cruiser in a heartbeat. Jeep and Bronco killer.
@shoveI
@shoveI 9 ай бұрын
The powertrain in the upcoming Land Cruiser is one of the parts I'm most interested in.. a hybrid 4cylinder with real AWD and real 4L and real buttons that select real options (as opposed to silly drive modes) .. yeah it's the first brand new vehicle I'm excited to buy since the 1990s.
@jlaw1901
@jlaw1901 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, I’m super interested in that powertrain as well
@johnburkard3121
@johnburkard3121 9 ай бұрын
I don't get why you keep saying. The average car price is forty thousand dollars maybe the only ones that you test
@TheCapn23
@TheCapn23 9 ай бұрын
Because it's true. The average car sold in the US is ~$40k. Now, I'm personally not buying a vehicle at that price but facts are facts. Americans love spending money on vehicles.
@matthewprather7386
@matthewprather7386 9 ай бұрын
New car - i think that’s the stat. Just to clarify.
@aaronbehindbars
@aaronbehindbars 9 ай бұрын
It's $48k, but who's counting
@williamhadley1580
@williamhadley1580 9 ай бұрын
The Envista is made in China 17:01
@JT-fq2bl
@JT-fq2bl 9 ай бұрын
It's made in South Korea too, and that's where the NA models come from.
@rondavis3232
@rondavis3232 9 ай бұрын
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@bonusb2924
@bonusb2924 9 ай бұрын
Drooling over the GX. Don’t understand the Land Cruiser, so basic for $50-60k.
@10cpaul
@10cpaul 9 ай бұрын
I had a 1988 FX 16 Corolla five speed it was so much fun to drive and that new Corolla really reminds me of that of course the 1988 wasn’t that fast but it was it would get up and go
@mikemayers8672
@mikemayers8672 9 ай бұрын
Nathan is good at what he does but looks like life had its way with him. Looks like he delt with some major losses in his life. Tommy still is a smug kid although talented.
@billricheter5678
@billricheter5678 9 ай бұрын
Not sure why you say that about Nathan. Seems like you are delusional.
@jr.6199
@jr.6199 9 ай бұрын
Me thinks thou dust protest too much, weirdo.
@highpro1394
@highpro1394 9 ай бұрын
What about the Ineos Grenadier???? Their North American Dealership is in Colorado!😢
@frankkeel8410
@frankkeel8410 9 ай бұрын
That trash is a GM Nightmare waiting to happen Reminds me of the Vega!,
@akar2755
@akar2755 8 ай бұрын
I really don't get why Americans keep talking about the US Landcruiser as such a big deal. Its just a Toyota Prado. That's why its cheaper. Its not Toyota being smarter or more generous with the pricing. It would be like Jeep advertising the new 'Cherokee' as the 'Grand Cherokee', with the lower Cherokee price (and only offering the 'real' Grand Cherokee in other markets). You are not getting a good price, you are just getting the lower grade product with an appropriate price. If anything they are probably making more money off Americans thinking they are paying for the full grade Landcruiser.
@Pepe-dq2ib
@Pepe-dq2ib 8 ай бұрын
We should be getting the new 70 series.
@06XTOR
@06XTOR 9 ай бұрын
Tommy you look like you just rolled out of bed. Dude comb your hair.. Lol
@billricheter5678
@billricheter5678 9 ай бұрын
Looks fine. Why be a hater?
@ElliottTucker1050
@ElliottTucker1050 9 ай бұрын
Oy! DUDE! You are on TV! You're a Grown Adult, not in the 2nd grade! What's your aversion to a comb? Though the commercial nearing the end at the 45 min mark? Nathan's reaction to the HAIR being 👀🤯😵‍💫😵NGTL, MY Reation to Your Hair. I'm far from "Big Brother is watching you" But TAKE that as YT & Google Saying "DUDE, NO REALLY DUDE USE A Brush before 📽🎬AGAIN ...Or Else"😂 - that aside the Trax/Evista I agree w/Nathan are phenomenal deals! Though personally prefer the style of Trax especially the RS. & all the Hoopla from the Right. Who r always the ones to state "Free Market"! Yeah? That includes Globalization of the last 50 yrs, so gtf over it. OR be for better wages & Support Unions! Including for those who are not Just You.
@BUY_YOUTUBE_VIEWS_d069
@BUY_YOUTUBE_VIEWS_d069 9 ай бұрын
Like so many others, this video is a true inspiration, thank you.
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