The BEST and WORST Weapons in The Finals Season 2

The BEST and WORST Weapons in The Finals Season 2
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[@ottr]

Disagree with my takes? You can also discuss it in the Discord! discord.gg/ottr

[@protoni6996]

Least one thing..... i like melee weapons.all of them have cons, but they are really fun.....

[@bubness1587]

Not sure if it would've been worthwhile mentioning other game modes on here for the guns, I know a good sniper in power shift for example can be a pain to deal and actually beneficial for the team rather than just being selfish for kills.

[@nahCyzar0520]

​​@protoni6996 I guess but the shield could get buffed with having a stun baton to slow people down, sword and dagger could have some kind of poison/bleed effect (bleed could just be shown with little hot effects on the character), and the sledgehammer could use more destruction and damage buff.

[@phmcphatty240]

Just wanted to let you know you can destroy APS turrets with the mediums grenade launcher

[@necromax13]

Extreme hard disagree with the CL40 and Model 1887 placement. The CL is way more consistent than the 1887. Also, your damage numbers and rationale is very wrong often. Did you even read the season 2 patch notes???? The revolver has had its damage falloff VERY buffed.

[@verycoolpotato]

Sucks ottr is getting hate for ditching apex. Hes one of the few people who was actually willing to switch when so many wanted to. The Finals deserves the love anyway

[@Salesedere]

Apex is fking terrible now and has been for like 5 seasons at least anyway. Anyone hating on him is an EA employee

[@lucabrindesi8156]

fax apex fell off@@Salesedere

[@Lycaa]

@@Salesedere APEX is actually amazing rn unlike finals it has players ottr shouldn't be getting hate but he is playing a less viewer game overall so gl for him ig

[@Lazyfoal]

@@Salesederei stopped playing it 2-3 years ago. The first year was so fun but it became unfun after like season 7 or 8. It was such a good shooter but oh well. I enjoy the finals way more at the moment

[@jaydennguyen-xk1yo]

@@Lazyfoalseason 7-10 were pretty fun you mightve missed out

[@asagohAn-0945]

ottr sounded like he was in pain while explaining the m60 lol

[@DatMageDoe]

If you just want to see the tiers and ignore the reasoning: Light: 9:41 Medium: 17:33 Heavy: 26:46

[@wabbledabble6496]

thank you very much. you deserve a cookie.

[@HenryQ56]

Thanks

[@brutuswadca8632]

Thanks

[@DontWorkHere]

Thank you bro I tried to skip to end but realized he didn't even make a full list

[@Draig1999]

Thank You 😀

[@Jesus_Christ_OfficialAccount]

The M11 is definitely an A tier weapon, it needs a little getting use to, but if you pull consistent headshots on it you will shred through enemies like it’s nothing.

[@Olezhqaaa]

I agree, getting used to it is a key

[@jaydennguyen-xk1yo]

V9S does exactly that but the difference is it has more dps and damage per mag. You face against different team comps and strategies every game, versatility is absolutely needed and thats why the xp54 is the best.

[@Jesus_Christ_OfficialAccount]

@@jaydennguyen-xk1yo from my point of view, I find the pistol and the xp not reliable enough for myself, maybe a skill issue, but I do find more success with the m11

[@GAB-vq7re]

Same ive been trying the xp because everyone says its better but, I get waaay more kills when I run the m11. Again maybe a skill issue but, i have better success with the m11​@Jesus_Christ_OfficialAccount

[@bridger6647]

I find it’s only really good if your close enough to the enemy to get an infection from them

[@Swysherr]

Let's remember that this is ottr's opinion as a solo player and we should still use what's FUN because most weapons are viable in a team.

[@rooniematerl8214]

this is a pretty objective list... most weapons are not viable in a team... please run your sword riot shield and sledge into 3 fcars...

[@kotasake]

Actually just not correct at all😂

[@Codename067]

most weapons are not viable in a team u npc. Without even lookin at ur stats, I know you are a sub 1kd player.

[@renamamiya403]

Bruh do people rly need to use meta weapons to be good smh

[@david_kingori]

You have the right attitude. Use what's fun for you. That's what really matters for many people.

[@obamahimself2885]

I main sledge. I think it’s REALLY fun. It’s more about positioning than anything else. It’s a great defense weapon and if you’re good at it your enemies fear going into small rooms during fights. You can also hit people through walls, and you can enter a highly defended without your enemies knowing. Paired with the RPG as a finisher, I was able to climb to plat where I still am now.

[@riverinafritsch2573]

Should be noted that if You're good with an off meta or in this case low tier weapon, You're an exception to the list but this list is still pretty good for the majority of players.

[@-The-Golden-God-]

Except for the Lewis gun placement.

[@ignisglasses3080]

thank you for saying "if you know how to use it" for the sledge lol

[@zevsord]

😌

[@leprosyt897]

it doesn’t matter if you know how to use it. if people know how to play the game at an above average level, the sledge hammer will be worthless

[@zevsord]

@@leprosyt897 Oh..... Buddy😌. With 140 hours of experience with a sledgehammer, I can tell that you are wrong

[@leprosyt897]

@@zevsord and me being top 500….. i can tell you that you are absolutely incorrect :)

[@subthescrub3063]

​@@zevsord You get stun gunned once and you're immediately dead lol

[@lozo1269]

I’m having so much fun with M60 and cannot understand why most of the heavies still tend to use Lewis gun instead.

[@Muhammad_Ahmad.]

With me personally I'm so close to getting it to level 6 that I don't wanna quit this late into the game.😢

[@michelangeluhhh]

People can't handle the recoil for some reason, when all you have to do is tap fire and wiggle your movement stick. But like, 70 bullets to put into targets? It's ridiculous

[@graveharvester9977]

well im a lewis gun user and tbh i dont feel much difference in the recoil, also i wouldve used m60 if i had that bull horn skin

[@michelangeluhhh]

@graveharvester9977 i have bull horn >:)

[@psokol9383]

​@@graveharvester9977 i have that skin and it's unplayable cause these horns cover so much screen when ADS its horrible to aim

[@mytube1411]

Keep making finals videos! I left apex and needed people making finals content. You're one of the only people (that i like) constantly posting it.

[@Rybo4]

As someone who never played Apex, I'm interested to why so many went to the finals from there? Is it just because of EA being shit? P.S. Please keep playing the finals!

[@mytube1411]

@Rybo4 I can't speak for everyone. But I left apex because I got tired of looting shooters.

[@Calamitious]

Also left apex, same here (just wanted a change; apex just felt same old, same old)

[@RideTheSkies]

@@Rybo42000 hours and was just getting bored of it. Finals came and it's such a refreshing experience compared to every other shooter. nothing like it

[@xeoiyy]

ottr i heavily suggest you put some quiet background music, really helps viewer retention

[@kensosa7447]

Agreed.

[@petera.968]

I just started playing The Finals. It’s so weird to me how some weapons are rendered useless in comparison to others. They need to do something about that.

[@-j-j-c]

its impossible to have a perfectly balanced game. literally every other fps has this problem too

[@necromax13]

@@-j-j-c Na. I agree every game has balancing issues, but there's only one or two guns per class that are so extremely dominant that using anything else is just throwing the game. Having such a small selection of guns aggravates this problem.

[@Rybo4]

@@necromax13 This is the same in every FPS game. Two or three weapons are better than others and that's how it is. If you nerf FCAR, everyone uses AK - that example works for any two guns in the game in any class. The "meta" will always remain, it'll just be one gun or another

[@necromax13]

@@Rybo4 Yes but the weapon selection in the finals is already piss poor. To have weapons that are straight up invalidated by others that do everything and better, in a game where there are two viable guns per class is absurd.

[@thetrueinferno7993]

@@Rybo4 God I hate this defeatist attitude. Yes ofc there will always be 'meta' weapons, but at the moment more half of the selection of guns just cannot compete with the select few and this is just poor design- these weapons CAN be better but Embark is too scared of anything being good outside of automatic hitscan weapons. Excusing these current designs because "something will be always op" doesn't help anything. Also, nerfing the FCAR would be excellent for the game, medium should not have access to such high dps without sacrifice.

[@StriderPF]

crazy that the shotgun with like buckshot is hitscan while the shotgun with 4 Gauge slugs has to use a projectile and becomes unusable lol

[@solkvist8668]

To be fair if that thing was hitscan it’d be so broken lol. Just 100 burst damage at effectively any range for heavy. It would basically be an RPG with 6 rounds in the mag and easier to hit

[@dukenukem6229]

It would be better with an actual sight lmao

[@necromax13]

Embark got lazy with the KS23 because it functionally is a reskinned CL40 without the explosive damage.

[@michaelludlow626]

@@necromax13 but it does have 2 more rounds, longer range, not affected by the APS, plus you can't hurt yourself using it in close quarters so its a bit better than the CL40 in general at least

[@necromax13]

@@michaelludlow626 Na nah, you misunderstood what i said. Under the hood it's a reskin, but of course it has differences. I'd still have the CL over the KS on the single fact that hitting shots and doing damage is more valuable than having 2 more rounds. Good luck landing anything past 20 meters with the KS.

[@Burtyburtburt8]

Heavies grenade launcher can be super strong in specific situations, like in close quarters or anywhere inside buildings. Combined with other gadgets for pushing enemies out of corners, u can clear an entire cahoots room on your own. But outside, it's useless

[@Hi-go7nl]

It’s also good in power shift for clearing the platform

[@danyu9560]

@@Hi-go7nl sadly most of the time in powershift they already brink APS turrets against regular nade spam so nah.

[@NETIERRAS]

Just place aps and watch the GL user cry

[@Burtyburtburt8]

@@NETIERRAS no fair 😡

[@michaelludlow626]

@@danyu9560 for me its like 30% of the time and i just aim outside of the circle which usually works

[@monkey-with-the-drip5296]

DMR needs a visual buff.. Give it the XP scope, or a Red dot sight.

[@TikachooYT]

I wish there were different sights/attachments you can unlock for guns as well as basic 1 colour shit skins 👀

[@solkvist8668]

I think the lh1 would become the best weapon in game with the addition of a decent scope. At best I could see them adding an acog to encourage higher range fights, but honestly the weapon is incredibly close to being the best weapon in the game already with its awful sights and visual recoil

[@emiliachan]

the lh1 would be turned into a sniper, i dont think it would be good for light, when there is already one in the game the iron sights are there for a reason making the lh1 a mid/long range dmr with a close range burst potential due to it not having sights

[@necromax13]

@@emiliachan with a straight up red dot sight it would become even better at mid range. Visual recoil and shot consistency is the main problem with the finals, and the guns that have sights perform WAY better than their ironsight counterparts. It's a design problem.

[@monkey-with-the-drip5296]

Why they gave the Fcar Holographic sight? Before it had iron sights lmao​@@emiliachan

[@meboz67]

The M11 has an insanely fast reload compared to the XP. XP is horrible for chaining kills

[@alicatdotcom]

Hipfire is also really good

[@DefenceN]

The knife makes light do exactly what it was meant to do. Get behind enemy lines, get a pick, run away. With a good coordinated team you might not need this but if you run solos like myself it might be worth trying.

[@HeK.]

The reason why people prefer the Lewis gun over the M60 is the damage falloff.

[@tobray5]

yea the damage fall off with the m60 is pretty bad.

[@pseudonymgaming3541]

Bro deadass said that the double barrel was barely better using the British weapon

[@seanryu5214]

finalllly thank you mr otter ive been waiting for a weapon tierlist video for season 2

[@triplezer0556]

The grande launcher on heavy can actually be really good if you take the time to learn how to use it effectively. I've used it a lot and found ways to have consistent success, and it helps that people think you're an easy kill and you can surprise them by Hit every shot.

[@RzExfeL]

Absolutely. I top frag with that thing

[@signer0001]

It also turns you into artillery once you learn to bounce, you can hit areas, you can hit behind the walls or around the corners with the right angle bounce, and it REALLY fucks up invis players once you get the lead on their general area of existence

[@triplezer0556]

@@signer0001 yeah exactly and it feels super satisfying when you predict their movements

[@necromax13]

It can be really good but its straight up outclassed by the CL40. They share the same damage model and projectile speed and travel, so, it doesn't make any sense to use the MGL when the CL40 does everything it does, but better.

[@triplezer0556]

@@necromax13 I disagree, while it is probably fair to say the cl is better, versus multiple enemies I find the heavy grenade launcher way easier to use and it has a further range. But ina 1v1 I agree with you

[@3ericw]

Ak is under rated here. The larger mag lets you stay firing longer. When playing with aggressive teammates its great to run in and mop up kills hipfired

[@Rybo4]

I think it's just because if you're against someone of equal or better skill than yourself with an FCAR and you have an AK, you will lose that battle most of the time. But the AK does have good support uses, like taking out heavy shields or turrets/APS

[@michaelludlow626]

@@Rybo4i win around 7/10 battles against fcar users collectively not individuals so i have to disagree with you there

[@Calamitious]

@@michaelludlow626yes but that means you are probably better then them doesn’t it 🤦

[@michaelludlow626]

@@Calamitious more like they run out of ammo midway in the gun fight

[@RideTheSkies]

20 bullets can kill like 1 mediums and a heavy if you're accurate and the reload is also fast making up for the low ammo

[@ceo_reuben]

I've found that melee weapons are extremely consistent; they just require different playstyles and positioning than with ranged weapons. For instance, the sledgehammer does surprise attacks really well, and it allows you to shape the arena in your team's favor. It is the antithesis to the melee/m11/cloak light build because in order to deal damage to you they must be in/just out of your sledgehammer's reach. Another key part of the melee playstyle is movement. That's what makes the riot shield so bad, and why you tanked when playing sledgehammer (goo gun + sledgehammer = bad combo). An alternative to movement is building your gadgets and specializations around making enemies come to you/trapping them. Goo grenade is an essential element to any melee build, as it covers the one weakness of melee: range. Dome shield and mesh shield are excellent compliments to sledgehammer. Sorry to hear you are not a fan of melee, and I hope this comment will allow you to reconsider.

[@flori2814]

coming to this vid late but that's exactly what I noticed in my own exp and the vod. It's unfortunate that some of these weapons are so hard to use and require a gadget slot (or a few) to hit maximum performance, but that's how it is when you play a niche. And honestly, aside from sword and dagger I don't think the other melee options are about getting picks at all, they shine in a team format (which is outside the scope of the vid). The goo+sledge and good riot shield play both force action from the opposing team and really disrupt enemies playing too close to one another. When played well goo sledge and goo gun in general can just force an opponent to take breaks mid-combat with yourself having the advantage. Riot shield is, unfortunately, less powerful owing to how robust the counterplay is for all but medium (which really just has their movement gadgets and cl40) but still plays a similar role of forcing a precise response from an enemy to prevent their formation from breaking. in the most ideal conditions, riot shield can just 1v1 every bullet-based weapon in the game--which is super annoying and creates attack opportunities for the rest of your team

[@818de60]

I think for unranked modes that allow weapon swaps mid round, sniper can actually be super strong. If they ever decide to allow swaps in ranked i think it will have a place there too. For outdoor cashouts it can be one of the strongest weapons in the game, in the right hands. Also having damage drop off nerfed on ARs, dome nerf, and glitch grenade buffs all help light players in general. Sniper+dash light can actually provide a ton of pressure, if your able to hit shots and position well. I think we will see some insane sniper players this season as a result.

[@lionpridedivisionyt1388]

I would have liked to see the flamethrower be higher because it is huge in power shift ( if you explained that in the video I’m currently without audio due to a disappointing lack of headphones) but everything else im pretty happy with, except the medium Winchester, I believe that should be slightly higher

[@ravivandersalm4586]

What I don't understand is that you seem to value range a lot, but whenever I encounter people at range I go through a wall to reach them, or I throw some goonades and all is fine. Or a flank with a zipline sometimes works out.

[@rajeshjackson9645]

This is amazing Thank you Request you to make guides for each of the classes. Different best build guides for different game modes. Best gadgets and best inslot for each playstyles. Looking forward Thanks once again 😊

[@JDgaming-_-69]

In most scenarios, flamethrower is mid, however it is good in the power shift mode

[@chugalug8218]

M11 easy S tier in my books, paired with evasive dash to close the distance hipfiring with good accuracy, with a couple of headshots in there you can consistently one clip heavies

[@dopeburgerubboubetterbacou4516]

that’s what i’m saying half the lights i see use it must mean it’s great

[@TheDomcrit]

I want to like the M11 (especially with the awesome new skin for it on the battlepass!) but the XP is sadly better in almost every situation IMO. You can also 1-clip heavies with the XP, and from further away. Because the XP is better at range, it pairs better with the stun gun as well (stun gun forces opponent to hip-fire so you want to be further away to increase your advantage in the duel)

[@user-oh8wi1mz8w]

I would use V9S cuz it has better DPS with similar hipfire accuracy.

[@brxmes]

as a light main, lh1 is defo my ranked weapon if there's no more than one other light in the game, its definetely the best weapon to take out mediums and heavies, the visual recoil / hipfire accuracy throws it off when it comes to dueling a light that uses the xp54

[@leprosyt897]

m11 is definitely the way to go. never seen anyone with an lh1 be successful

[@michaelludlow626]

@@leprosyt897 on a good day i average 24 kills per game with the LH1 the trick is close quarters invisibility, although i do tend to use it as a better sniper time to time

[@brxmes]

@@michaelludlow626 exactly, it does so much damage that u can pretty much use it very aggresively

[@brxmes]

@@leprosyt897 m11 is great, but the xp54 is better, and as i said, if there isnt too many lights in the ranked lobby, lh1 is the way to go, by aiming at upperchest u will most of the time hit body shots and head shots, resulting a kill with most of time, less than half of ur magazine, which is pretty insane, u can actually kill 2 heavies with one fkn mag ( theoratically u could kill 3 heavies with 12 bullets but it all has to be headshots which is pretty much not possible if u spam the gun, but still the best gun to take out M/H imo )

[@leprosyt897]

@@brxmes idk man. i’ve never seen a single light be successful with it in my ranked matches. i’ve personally never used it so i can’t say much from my own experience, but it’s very rare that i see the lh1 at all. it just gets outclassed

[@cudfertilizer3668]

What I’ve heard before is that if you really think about it, most of the guns and pretty well balanced, however some take some more time getting used to, to really use them to their full ability. And this was from a grenade launcher guide for heavy… the FCAR is just a really easy to use and Jack of all trades kinda gun so most people just follow to crowd and use that. That’s my take on it at least

[@buzzzthatbeebuzzin6523]

The flamethrower works great for countering aps spam in powershift, and enemies are in a spot where you can predict where they will be and it counters invis light

[@ohwen]

Showing clips of u using the weapon makes this tier list so much more entertaining than all the others

[@LetoPlay]

Good takes. I would place M11 higher. Also agree that M60 seems like best choice for heavy now.

[@deathshop2172]

I still cannot conceive of a possible reason why embark won't buff the dagger back to OB state, where you could hold the backstab

[@thatsonguyious257]

Literally the same issue when heavy could walk around with a insta kill light RPG But at least that's on cool down now you want an infinite holdable insta kill when you have one of the fastest classes in the game

[@deathshop2172]

@@thatsonguyious257you do know open beta dagger state was a 5 second timed hold, right? it also slows you down signifigantly, has piss range, AND you have to actually be accurate with it, unlike the RPG? it's also not on the walking wall class who has more HP than god

[@necromax13]

@@deathshop2172 The problem is that the dagger doesn't have any options and relying on just backstabs for the actually good effect, when the game already has major problems with hit registration is just absurd. The stab attack should be a 150 dmg attack or so from the front and an insta kill to any class from the back. No invis when performing the attack at all. Or keep the damage as is but have a CoD MW2 commando perk effect to the weapon. It's literally unusable.

[@deathshop2172]

@@necromax13oh yeah, it sucks ass right now. I still think the holding would be good, and the dagger definitely cannot have more stab damage than the sword to the front. Maybe like 75

[@necromax13]

@@deathshop2172 I mean, for the backstab to be the only reliable way for the dagger to do damage then the backstabs should be completely revamped. Buffing the stab for it to be functional from the front too would be an immediate fix.

[@MelloTheJester]

I think the AK is underrated just because when combined with advanced movement tech /jukes the expanded mag can secure an additional kill in close quarter fights

[@PrawnyBoy53]

Currently just finished the light portion, def think the sword should be A-tier. With the movement plus damage plus combos that tbh are pretty easy to do, you can kill a lot of enemies before they are really aware of what’s going on. Great list though besides that

[@withoutstickers]

As a sword main I think B tier is fair ngl

[@esoterictempest_3]

I only use sniper when im against enemies that I have trouble with close range(not in tournaments) and close - mid range I use the tactical sub

[@new_og_]

You’re videos are great , thanks ❤.

[@dfazen89]

I have spectated some random teammates who were owning with the light sniper at all ranges lol insane

[@jonbaker1559]

As someone who's always ran iron sights in cod back in the day, sights don't make a gun better, it may have better range and control at that range but in close quarters the m11 is gonna be way better especially when you're always killing xp users while they are reloading, the m11 hip fire is beyond ready to control almost to the point it's broke and it's range especially on low targets will Surprise you and enemies, imo m11 is the light s tier

[@jonbaker1559]

The ability to go from hip fire to ads WHILE Fighting can be clutch, and the whole invisy and not Knowing where you're aiming is ridiculous, it's the center of your screen regardless of what you see😅

[@alicatdotcom]

People who put sights on guns in classic cod are low IQ. I always ran FMJ or suppressor because I wanted better stats. Sights are like putting a steering wheel cover on your car and calling it an upgrade.

[@ten_Postradatelny]

25:00 M60 Updated weapon recoil pattern to be slightly more accurate over time during sustained firing Increased accuracy by decreasing bullet dispersion while moving when firing from the hip Increased accuracy by decreasing bullet dispersion while moving when firing while aiming down sights Decreased accuracy slightly by increasing bullet dispersion while standing still when firing while aiming down sights and in my opinion switch fcar and akm tier. For me fcar is garbage due to small mag.

[@tomekl3476]

Its funny how fix to most of the weapons is just to add holo/red dot sights but they will not do it because its "different" to have weapons with iron sights. I love this game and its really good but i dont understand this aspect of it. Make recoil harder or anything but add good weapon sights to all weapons

[@strangerontheinternet291]

Ways I made the riot shield work 1.Use it to protect teammate while they reload such as heavy 2.Keep close to the objective and stay there,if they run away let them you did youre job 3.attack when they run out of bullets 4.Work with the team(tbf you should do this with any weapon but the riot shield works best when you devote yourself to the team)

[@JerrybearTV]

Awesome video! One of the best Finals player i watch also very entertaining

[@Rybo4]

His aim is crazy lol. I enjoy watching him beaming people across the map

[@austinroll]

I appreciate the content. I wish the back half of the fcar had recoil. Keep it strong but need skill to use

[@alicatdotcom]

The hipfire on it beats shotguns.. Fcar nerf is needed. I'm tired of playing against meta using cod players

[@TinFoilHatx]

Its funny to me how the double barrel and auto shotgun were nerfed because the TTK/one shot but the 1887 does the same shit at a further range and hasnt been touched.

[@carvode7428]

I can literally see how ottr shoots some hitscan weapons like he is in apex and adjusting for the bullet travel time lmao.

[@Roguelikes_gg]

The CL-40 is C tier and drops value the more you rank up on quick cash but if power shift gets a ranked matchmaking it's gonna be a must pick like the defib

[@Rodonuts]

nice tier list! I disagree with some of your placements but the one thing I would recommend to consider when making this tier lists is considering how fun a gun is to use. I think the new heavy shotgun is very fun! not the best heavy gun for sure but It should be higher up just for the fun factor definitely.

[@skilldrain7823]

I do think the lewis gun deserves to be a bit higher on the list, but with a few notes to go alongside it. When you start firing, the first 10 shots are extremely easy to control, probably moreso than even the FCAR. This means a few things. Firstly, it's often a far superior gun to track annoying lights and often mediums with compared to the M60. Second point being if you fire in a few bursts, its usually a much easier kill at range compared to an M60. Popping in and out of cover, especially with a barricade, keeps this gun pretty competitive. It is pretty terrible if you just spam it at range tho.

[@DKingFisher]

That Light shotgun is a monster if you can utilize it properly. The problem is, it doesn't work against teams that are stacking together.

[@berryvr7184]

Flame build on heavy with goo gun is pretty fun tho

[@OndrejKovar-zd3ls]

Pls what crosshair app are you using??

[@Tomjosh-eq8sw]

Keep up the Great content!

[@Monkemoneymoney]

YESS BRO FINALLY THE TIER LIST I NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED

[@andrewhill2728]

sledge is more of a timing and utility weapon i think! ❤️☝🏻 try just busting though a wall when you think you hear someone🔨

[@I-OMusic]

Sword is so slept on, that shit is S tier for the people who master it, but even if you just learn the basic combos is gives you by far the best movement and one of the highest dps/ clutch potentials in the game (plat sword otp, thanks for the respect), with advanced combos it's the highest burst damage in the game

[@momurda8473]

I know obvious but not to some ppl, you didn’t mention the range on the sh-1900, in order to 1 pump lights and 2 pump mediums you have to be extremely close to

[@KutikiPlayz]

I actively use riot shield, it's not really there for kills honestly it's more-so just for staying alive, preventing team wipes, 1v1s (with anyone if you strafe properly), and especially countering grenade launchers and rpgs from a solo perspective I can see that it's not that great but in my team comp at least it works very well for me it also gives me more incentive to heal my teammates, since quite frankly I think healing the heavy does much more for the team overall than it would me trying to shoot people

[@david_kingori]

I also see turrets with riot shield users. Quite effective. I like riot shield users, I run heal when I see this combo

[@K0n93]

Eidorian makes the sword popular, but the highest sword player was Yoluhana, a female Korean streamer. She got to top 20 last season playing only with Sword. Not sure where she is now in SS2, but the Sword is definitely a very strong weapon, just the skill level is really high. As a sword main with 200+ hours in, It's my fav and strongest weapon by far

[@bloodydon595]

the only thing i disagree with are the throwing knives. i’m just a rinky dink solo player and i like to just have fun with funky weapons and i’ve found that throwing knives are EXTREMELY viable. i’ve squad wiped teams on teams in same rounds countless of times and i do have eye witnesses, it’s just an extreme skill shot weapon but mixed with movement it’s almost unstoppable. that is until the silver back gorilla pulls out the rpg.

[@mrcroc1991]

I mained throwing knives in season one and once you play them enough they are actually very strong especially against other lights as you can dodge and weave till they run out of bullets and then go in for the kill.

[@jab8823]

i would argue that the sniper is a huge asset in the platform game mode, if most of your team is h or m and you’re a light and able to grapple around, sitting at a distance and shooting whoever is on the platform applies that extra pressure and have won me heaps of games.

[@necromax13]

Yeah but good luck using the sniper in any other scenario. The new map is 90% indoor less than 30 meters engagements. It's a good gun in the wrong game.

[@Hi-go7nl]

What about invis? All the weapons are fine in invis if u just look at your normal crosshair the xp 54 has a good sight but it’s no better than any other gun on using when in invis or do I just not run light enough

[@baltoz1664]

maybe its my on screen crosshair, but the V9 is the most underrated gun in the game (500+ hours on light alone)

[@bubness1587]

Famas might be good if they massively increased long range damage so it out dps's FCAR at range especially with FCAR nerf at range

[@Rockoutgeek_]

Dps is pretty trash in my opinion it take 21or more shots to kill a heavy

[@mhmmkay]

Bro the medium tier list is crazy good lord

[@crazierthorn10]

Played with a sword user last night, dropped a minimum of 25 kills each game...I got like 3 lol. Shit is insane, watched him play when Id die, and he would just team wipe everyone, only one left alive. He was really good...

[@berserkslayer8638]

Can you make a similar video about the gadgets for each class?

[@minty1198]

Yooo, you should make a list for all gadgets now 👍

[@stanz47]

I would disagree with AKM and would put it at A teir as its better for mid-long range fights due to the second half of the recoil and the large mag size. With medium you don't have a lot of movement and the FCAR honestly has too little ammo to contend with many two on one fights. I would also disagree with sledgehammer being that low as a good heavy can make it an A teir weapon depending on how they use utility and their environment. Forcing close range and having free range to destroy buildings, walls, floors below cashouts and other similar scenarios it can be very strong. I'd put sledgehammer at C to B teir because it is so difficult to play when there is space between you and the opponent between cashouts, running, etc.

[@bubness1587]

feels like such a shame so many light weapons are held back by iron sights, especially with aiming whilst invis being way harder without the red dot

[@antys8621]

kinda agree, good video 👍🏽

[@budschenk299]

Can you rank wepons/ gadgets for powershift? It changes everything (for example I run flamethrower, mines, sheilds cause it helps sustain and deal with large groups) but I would bassicly never use mines or the flamethrower in normal modes

[@adriantaylor6155]

i average 10-15 kills with heavy GL..... its more of a defense weapon on maps like monaco or skyway where its tight spaces make more of an impact on the game.

[@eApocalypse]

Throwing knives and sword are actually op if you have good movement

[@duwopx1629]

Even tho the Lewis gun got nerfed it stills hits hard just a lil more recoil Hip firing just shred other builds up close

[@kensosa7447]

Does the list change if you play on controller

[@Evan_397]

Good thing is that in casual lobbies some people are just actual bots at the game and you can still win even when using trash but fun weapons.

[@___chad_____]

It is incredibly easy to take out APS with cl-40 if you are level or above the turret.

[@SylveeBun]

the throwing knives are awesome dude, at least a tier, if youre actually good you can get a really high kd and at least 14k dmg in tournaments

[@nahCyzar0520]

Yeah, the LH1 could get to the level of XP-54 if it had a 1x sight or one with minimal magnification, Medium's shield could be better if it could slow people down (maybe with a stun baton), and FAMAS could use something like an ACOG (4x magnifying sight though in R6 it is 2.5x) along with an easier recoil.

[@necromax13]

the famas needs a modest sight and a buff in headshot multiplier. Make it functionally like a halo 2 battle rifle.

[@nahCyzar0520]

@@necromax13 Yeah, I think that will do as well. Edit: 2.5x seems to fit the magnification you want.

[@Rockasauraz]

Whats your opinion on the slug now after its buff?

[@ExtremelyOnlineGuy]

Did the mp5 get buffed or something? It got super easier compared to last season to me. And I use the dagger and sword almost exclusively tho. It’s so fun. The move is called akiba step. It’s distance related in terms of consistency but there’s even tricks to bypass that too. You can even step to someone you’re chasing if you time the animation to be active like as soon as you’re in range. It’s ridiculous how you can just clean a whole team by just flying through people. Same with the sword. But easier. Lower heavy attack dmg as well but you get so much distance you can use the attack as a movement boost. It doubles the dash damn near. Plus you can hold the sword heavy atk. Not the daggers. If you could on dagger it’d be a HUGE problem cause it does 320 dmg I think which is why it ohks anyone but heavies. And making it to where you always have that at a perfect ready is insane if the player has a good game sense and team.

[@brandon2762]

This video got me excited to use m60 but Lewis is still way better than m60 imo unless close range because of the damage drop-off. It quickly does less than half as much damage per bullet. Around 40 meters it's 13 vs 29 bullets to kill a medium dummy

[@jaimechavero1855]

Anyone know what crosshair hes using?

[@glenncespedes5380]

I'm just happy that the meta isn't too strict

[@jaidengggg2534]

Too many people sleeping on the goo gun, if you goo someone by the upper body they can't shoot you back or move for like half a second which actually makes sledge almost viable on some maps I personally nearly reach diamond just using sledge and goo every game

[@carodejzjeskyne]

I use charge'n slam with sledgehammer and I can get like 20 kills per game (it really depends on map because on Monaco I'mabsolutly insane and on Las Vegas I strugle)

[@SOKAR_EX]

if they added a charge when you have the shield up it’s the only thing that would make it viable other wise its a joke due to everyone being faster backpedaling you and nothing you can do about it

[@vikivillix]

maybe its just me but i think maps are super important for your weapons aswell maybe the overwatch player in me is just talking idk but i love playing sniper in monaco and Seoul or G-Launcher Heavy in monaco and Las Vegas. Some things are map related for me i guess. Allthough we are playing as two slam heavies so what do i know xd

[@CelestialFeenix]

Just wanted to say that the grenade launcher not just statwise is the worst weapon. Its the only weapon that can be completly nullified aswell, since the APS Turret just destroys the projectiles. No other weapon in the game is counterable like that.

[@necromax13]

The CL40 destroys the aps turret on two shots, the splash damage is larger than the radius of the APS turret. Source: I'm well on my way to CL40 mastery level 7. The MGL is genuinely ass, but the CL40 is borderline obscene, its SO GOOD, albeit inconsistent sometimes.

[@Adazahi]

Heavy grenade launcher slander is crazy, it's certainly not the best weapon for him but I think it's a stretch to place it where you placed it.

[@SpeedCap_draws]

My best weapons for each class Light: m11 Medium: famus Heavy: sledgehammer (I rarely ever use heavy class so I have no opinion on heavy class)

[@disbled]

dagger definitely not F tier once u learn its tech with dash, but melee in general just doesnt really have a place in a shooter like this

[@capitaocristalicio2811]

Yes i play better with auto shotty compared to lewy this season, and the Lights auto sniper is also good

[@ObiWifiKenobi]

6:48 Me who has 12 30/1 on the sword overthinking my whole skill level

[@jaydennguyen-xk1yo]

Where do you find dps for weapons

[@AlejandroGarcia-rv1jr]

Your math on SA1216 is wrong by a bit, 1 dmg per pellet nerf equates to (7 pellets x 12 dmg post nerf) 84 , 84x 3 = 252 land all pellets will kill medium in 3, and thread melee for heavy kill. Thing is often close kill thresholds are not that different from pre nerf threshold due to other random dmg or team dmg in a game, and SA1216 is definitely better with team. Still feels near impossible to duel as light within 10 meters, but luckily heavy players all cant aim and they just miss their shots. also M11 is A at least, higher dps than xp54, much higher capacity in mag, and reload time drastically better. M11 (16 x 16.67 rps ) vs xp 54 (18 x 14.166667 rps ) , M11 266.67 dps, XP 54 255. M11 higher risk higher reward, good smurf gun.