The best bluewater cruiser ever? This Xc47 is definitely worth a closer look!

[@Abc-kf4qx]

Did X Yachts actually say “best bluewater cruiser ever “ ? That is an incredibly bold statement to make in a market with such manufacturers as Garcia, Boreal, Halberg Rassy, Oyster, Kraken, the list goes on….Not sure I would agree. Always appreciate the videos Toby, keep them coming!

[@yachtingworld]

Yes they did in their marketing. And thank you!

[@casybond]

With a bolted-on thin fin keel AND unprotected rudder it's not even blue-water, let alone the best.

[@nickburke5263]

I did a lot of IRC racing and delivery’s of the 44 back in the day. Nice boat but once you went racing it you started noticing how it was a pretty crap cruiser

[@Kayaz48]

It's a marketing claim. Wrong bowe, wrong keel, wrong Stern. It's a pumpkin seed shallow water coastal cruiser, and with that shape and particularly with that bowel that is going to be a very very wet hobby horsing boat

[@Arthur-vp8vk]

Kraken all the way!

[@philandlyndachristieson8808]

After 30+ years of sailing Windora, you've just shown me a day sailer. ⛵️🌏⛵️🌊🌊🌏🙂. Cheers Phil

[@AdeboFunkyVoodoo]

Not even close.

[@mememe5231]

Great walk through! Forty seven foot bluewater cruiser and not a proper aft owners cabin, why? Seems like a well thought out boat stowage wise. And good looking in my opinion. As far as being the best. Maybe at sailing, but to compromised to be anything other than a short term cruiser. In my opinion.

[@beepseatsfindingfoodtreasu8756]

I just watched the video. I agree, with all the space available in the hull itself. Why wouldn't there be a spacious aft cabin with a master bath? It's open and airy I will give it that. But I'd honestly go for an older Vagabond 47 and have that authentic ships cabin in the aft with the transom lights.

[@Muratshayev]

Did I understand correctly that they placed the water boiler above the electric motor with control controllers? Really. What can happen? With all due respect to the company, the diamonds added everywhere create the feeling that Dufour only costs a lot of money. The review itself is great. Thanks Toby.

[@LoanwordEggcorn]

Cheaper that way since the hot water lines already run there. Agree it's not very wise.

[@mikaelgarton372]

What you may have misunderstood is that the size is 40 liters and therefore the placement is best with regard to available space. When I bought my yacht 15 years ago I upgraded the water boiler to 40 liters which was placed above the engine where there was free space intended for a generator. With my experience and also that I am an electrical engineer who works with boats, it is a good location for a bulky boiler. The option is not to place 40 liter size somewhere else, but in that case choose a smaller 20 - 25 liter one and place it in the stowage space under the bed. Dripping fresh water does not cause problems with electricity (48 V).

[@Muratshayev]

@@mikaelgarton372 Yes, there is its “regular place” when the diesel engine is installed. But not in the case when there is a 60 kW electric motor and its control controllers right underneath it. It's like putting an ashtray at the neck of the tank. In principle, it’s okay, no one will smoke while refueling, right?

[@mikaelgarton372]

Your comparison is funny but not correct. Do you think there will be a short circuit ie that fresh water conducts current? What do you think would happen if the boiler not only leaks slowly but instead suddenly dumps all the water (40 litres)? How high would the water rise from the floor surface?

[@Muratshayev]

@@mikaelgarton372 I'm definitely exaggerating. Nothing bad will happen, that's clear. The controllers are low-voltage, and the engine can also operate in water, it is designed for this. Perhaps the batteries are not made of lithium, which reacts with water. I mean that for 1 million you can make a different constructive solution. By the way, fresh water conducts current perfectly if it is not distilled 💥 :)

[@jimturpin6503]

I have very little sailing experience. I wonder how hard it is to fish a line through the conduit if a line were to break at sea?

[@greg.mcdonald]

You get what you pay for. It’s no Swan or Oyster, but then it’s half the price 😮

[@jpdj2715]

Great video as always, thank you. (1) Not sure if possible and I understand that income from ads has to be part of earning some of the costs in here back, but if possible at this amount of ad interruption you could ask for 5 sec ads only and e.g. only from businesses in n associated industry. (2) Generators in an EV-boat ... mentioned is 11 kW here and I presume that is the max electrical power that the generator can deliver. If we assume a (high) efficiency of 34% of the ICE used to drive the generator, then we need 32.4 kW ICE power or 43.4 HP. Running the generator for 1 hour surrenders 11 kWh to the batteries and with charging and other losses we hopefully end up with 10 kWh usable from the batteries that upon extraction will still have some conversion losses. I am all for pure EV-boats done this way - (2.a) theory and definition: is this a serial hybrid design with the generator now? (2.b) The point of these calculations is to show that an ability to charge batteries from solar reduces from the 43.4 HP, so if you have a bimini covering the cockpit, with solar panels on it, then you need less ICE HP and less fuel and suffer less from - however minimal in this boat - noise. Does the yard offer related options if not standard? (3) The OceanVolt sail drive ... can it be rotated for (3.a) improved manoeuvrability? And can it be faced forward for more (3.b) effective electricity generation (cf. regenerative braking in your EV)? (4) Zooming in on the AC wall outlets showed German "Schuko" standard, grounded 230V models - these are also standard in some non-German countries. And e.g. the French version has good compatibility options, physically in modern plugs and outlets in both directions. I guess the yard would offer other options (relative to the price of the boat this is about trivial costs). (5) The design is Scandinavian modal, or minimalist, and light, but this can look a bit utilitarian and hence too expensive for what we see. The old school in warm darker lush woods feels anachronistic in a modern boat/yacht, though, to me. The question here is - I don't have the answer - if designs avail out there that do this "better" in the mind of Our Kind Of People (the opinionated ones). (6) As this is a blue water ocean cruiser, I would expect a sleeping position for the person in standby sleeping watch, e.g. on the couch in the salon, away from the serious sleepers. Does the boat have some simple provisions for that? (7) Autopilot - the boat has a load of computer intel, it seems, and no doubt an auto-pilot that can be set for a compass course to a waypoint, but can it instead maintain course relative to wind? (Without adding a Hydrovane - that I probably would want to add anyway as redundancy when sailing with minimal crew. That said, properly mounted fixtures for a Hydrovane could be an option even and yes, because of the swimmers' and davits platform there may be a challenge, so a yard delivered option would be great). (8) Not clear to me, but all the push-button things like furling and potentially others, do they have a manual backup operation in case of such device failing, or power outage?

[@attilamaradi]

great ideas, nice finish

[@Friday_Trouble]

Beautiful boat

[@peterhomann2140]

Hm, I am not so sure if I join your enthusiasm and the positive comments in general: Firstly there is no mention of rudder- or keel construction which to me is crucial information in general but more so when a boat claims to be "blue water". From what I can see it is a sloop and I would certainly prefer a cutter rig to change gear quickly, again especially in a blue water vessel. Is this boat blue water capable? Sure, my Bavaria 40 crossed the Atlantic too. There are some other features that I do not find blue water conducive: Handholds below, it looks as if one gets stuck once passing the galley to port / nav station to starboard. One could argue one does not go to the front in heavy weather but I would disagree. While I see rounded edges on the outside of the furniture, opening the drawers and cabinet doors show 90 degree edges, nothing is rounded there and pinched fingers will be the result. You did not mention whether lee cloths are available in any of the berths. I expect from X a high quality built and I am sure they did not stray from that reputation in the Xc47. But to me (and admittedly based exclusively on your walkthrough) this is a high end luxury yacht for Med- or Caribbean cruising. A lot would have to be done imho to make her truly blue water. Lastly I must address the price: with a one Million Euros price tag (who cares about a few hundredthousand up or down) I look at Amel, Kraken, Contest, Discovery... and for puttering around the Med or Carib I am going with Wauquiez, RM, Grand Soleil, Dehler... save myself 300 Gs which pays for a lot of nice dinners, berthing and maintenance.

[@davepersich3035]

After watching the 'boat boys' cross the Atlantic and back on a scruffy 40 year old Nickholson 32, I think we've been brainwashed by the marketing companies into what you need to go blue water cruising.

[@stormlands]

so if you mount 2x8kwh windmillgeneratros and solarpanels. then as long as there is enogh wind/sun you will be able to travle as long as you want on the motor?

[@SuperStormgames]

Looks beautiful and built well too. Even the cupboard doors look like solid wood. Would be a lovely comfortable and speedy boat to do the ARC in.

[@casybond]

Bad sign one has to open cupboard door more than 90 degrees to slide out drawers. Even IKEA gets this right. kzbin.info/www/bejne/apzYf3qKo76mjtEsi=Ym6B-Wbk-tGUJU3R

[@goolug]

What exactly makes it a blue water boat? The weight? What an odd claim

[@Paul-k6w]

Do you get that upwind pounding for free or is it an option?

[@SteveI-fg5qt]

Looks like a fantastic yacht. Just not sold on the e drive, although im sure they'll become very common eventually.

[@mgdurandolo]

Beautiful boat; just wish t had a master's cabin. Excellent review as always

[@yachtingworld]

Thanks 👍

[@Expedition_Tranquilo]

Beautiful yacht, expect as well built as all X-yachts, however I really don't understand why X doesn't offer an aft-cabin across full the beam - as anyone who's sailed across oceans will know, a master cabin in the bow is not the ideal place to sleep over night sails. That being the case our preference for our next bluewater yacht is still the range from Contest.

[@bos6782]

Great looking yacht. Thx for the tour Toby.

[@houstandy1009]

I suspect the folk over at Kraken yachts would disagree

[@jamieopulence]

Very impressed with XC yachts - giving the boat world a run for their money 🌎

[@TeeFunkable]

Dinghy some 50 cm the water, attached to a folding transom.. What could possibly go wrong? Also have fun removing the dinghy from over there before med mooring. While I'm all for oceanvolt and know it can work, who in their right might would like to be relying essentially on the notoriously unreliable panda genset? I'd agree this is a lovely, albeit slightly ugly med cruiser, as long as you don't even try to make use of the davits.

[@falkpatt]

Ulimate bluewater boat isn't plastic. It's aluminum, has a centerboard or lifting keel, from Allures or Allubat, or fully custom from KM.

[@JacobBohmeDK]

Lovely boat, but you should have challenged the 'best bluewater yacht ever' claim. I am missing some basic items. Staysail, solar, high bulkwark, twin rudders, stability and strength above the EC standard? Slamming?

[@Nozzall]

I agree. I can think of a couple of boats I would take off grid well before this one.

[@kagan7070]

can you say what they are?@@Nozzall

[@turboturtle9083]

Twin rudder are only an advantage When the boat is sailing on her ear. They are a disadvantage when trying to dock or manuver in close quarters.

[@sundown6436]

How does the quality compares to the Swan 48 MKII?

[@n.o.b.1907]

It might be a legal offence to compare a Swan with something like an x-yacht. If not; it must be. In such a case, I shall be contacting my congressman...

[@FLH3official]

"The first seven clients have all chosen diesel"...Realy? 😁

[@turboturtle9083]

Batteries are heavy and don't play well with water .smart to let someone else be the early adopters.

[@supremeflagship8965]

1. You have abysmal range with electric motor. 2. You need range to motor in heavy weather (or in Doldrums). 3. Diesel engines have the range. 4. Diesel propulsion is suited to offshore/ocean sailing (range is king). 5. Diesel wins...

[@kkklllaaa1234]

Is this the only modern 47 footer without an island birth?

[@rouslant]

"The best bluewater cruiser ever" always should be translated by "would I like to sit in that cockpit in heavy seas in the middle of the Atlantic ?". And, looking at this one, the answer is an obvious NO. 47 foot bluewater cruiser means 2 cabins, well protected cockpit, ideally fully enclosed ... it doesn't mean "ideal cruiser for a couple days in Croatia".

[@ianbrown1255]

Looks a lot like a newer version of the Jeanneau Deck Saloon range….imitation is the sincerest form of flattery etc

[@General_Crock]

The difference in build quality between those two is worlds apart.

[@ianbrown1255]

@@General_Crock agree but then so is the price…

[@MrFroglips69]

Groovy ship

[@iCover480]

I would only sail a center cockpit helmed yacht in blue waters.

[@PedroHipolito]

This or Hallberg-Rassy?

[@tr5065]

Simple answer. No. There are always compromises but this design is full of errors not compromises. Oh and to my eyes, not pretty either. Each to their own though!

[@eduardo.macenaa]

Hey, I am still learning about sailboats. Would you mind suggesting some that are more appropriate to hardcore exploration but still allow solo sailing? And if you could elaborate on the main problems with this boat, I really want to learn more. Thanks!

[@qtlinh]

Check out the amel 50 if u havent

[@traupzanddine]

@@eduardo.macenaa kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5rFd3SdqK-iZrMsi=D6fdZtcDnx2NemKA

[@torben777]

Looks pretty awesome to me and I see no errors, but as you said, to each their own.

[@ДмитрийБрусничкин]

friend, turn on the Russian subtitles, and everyone else too, not everyone knows English; subtitles are needed in order to watch videos on TV)

[@Steve-ck3yf]

Slower camera movement & wider angle but your explanation was good. I could see wanting a few extras no room unless 10 ft extra? Do they have intention for 55-60?

[@rtbinc2273]

Lovey review and boat. Always wonder what they understand Bluewater to mean. I tend to think they mean crossing The Med and coastal waters around the Baltic and Europe. Perhaps doing the ARC rally which is what 90% of their customers would do. For high latitude or exploring the coast of Peru I'm not sure this is the boat for you. As a small issue - why do some engine compartments seem to have a small - 2 inch maybe - window, or circle of some kind, under one of the stairs.

[@KristvanBesien]

That small hole is so you can empty a fire extinguisher in to the engine compartment in case of a fire.

[@rtbinc2273]

@@KristvanBesien Thanks. I thought once I knew it would seem obvious.

[@yachtingworld]

👍

[@eduardo.macenaa]

@rtbinc2273 What sailboats do you think could do the more dangerous trips you mentioned?

[@rtbinc2273]

@@eduardo.macenaa Most boats are not meant for anything challenging. Most people don't want anything challenging - me included. Garcia is build for cold water sailing they are Aluminum not GRP, There is an a Arctic Sailing channel I following using a Garcia. Kracken is known as a tough boat. Some Dutch boats are build for adventure sailing. Amel is known for this too but makes fiberglass boats. Sailing Delos channel uses a Amel.

[@svsalserenity4375]

Great video ! But a Blue Water boat ? I dont think so .

[@andrewlabat9963]

Very nice, but not even close to the best blue water. But I guess the catch phrase will snag some..

[@adrenazanetti3660]

Also did I miss the heads? Are they en suites or day head?

[@1corinthians15.1-4kjv]

A perfectly beautiful boat for a weekend sail in nice weather during the summer season it sure may be, but it is no blue water cruiser at all. And why do all these modern boat builders try to fix, what people do not need a fix upon? It may be smart to hide all the halyards on a gigantic charter boat, where you only really sail in perfect conditions and motor the rest of the time, but on a supposed blue water cruiser it is just silly! What would you do, if one of the those halyards break in the middle of those under deck tubes and in rough conditions at open sea? According to Murphy's Law, that is also, when they will break! So many boats solve this much more clever, for instance by making the run of the halyards as short an direct as possible, but always accessible. It is just one example. Anyway, the price make this irrelevant: It is even more expensive than the 50 feet Kraken, which is the supposed ultimate blue water cruiser and quite a big bigger! The much more spacious Allures 51.9 are much cheaper, and that one is a marine grade aluminium hull build on the same shipyard, as builds Garcia boats!

[@insight1256]

I think the “Garcia” is better simply because it is made of aluminium.

[@Only1Feckitt]

Vendee Globe here i come me old ship mates, might cut the tender off fairly early though.

[@zackworrell]

I wish I had an extra $600K. I'd sell my Jeanneau and buy this without a second thought.

[@traupzanddine]

She’s a nice boat, a few good ideas (notably the davet system which looks awesome!). However i must admit your review (and it’s title) left me very confused. From what i gather the two main features that makes her a « blue water » sailboat are storage and power autonomy. While these are certainly valuable they are hardly the most important. The only mentions of safety features is a life-raft that seems absolutely inaccessible and the attempt to sell a bolted keel as safe. What is the thickness of the hull, are the rudders skegged, etc.? Maybe you should clarify the definition of “blue water” because this boat is definitely not “the best” ocean-crossing boat and probably isn’t even one. As mentioned by some other guy, a beautiful day/coastal cruiser. I think their is a sense of responsibility from the CE, constructers and youtube channels to reevaluate what a real “bluewater” cruiser should be in my humble opinion. Looking forward to hear your thoughts.

[@deerfootnz]

No. My Sundeer 60 is. Its about the same size, or a bit smaller than the XC47, but will cruise faster and safer with less crew effort and a better motion. That X boat has an ass like three busses. My boat has two watertight bulkheads and is built to 3x ABS in the relevant places. Just about bulletproof. The published displacement for the Sundeer is 16500 kg BUT thats fully loaded with everything. Displacement length is 80! The Sundeer is effortless cruising for a couple.

[@KristvanBesien]

So tell me, where can I buy a Sundeer 60 :-)

[@paulgilliland2992]

Seems like a winner and not a squeak to be heard . Toby if you could pick a sailboat in the million price point what would be your top 3 ?

[@hakanskog391]

Nice walkthrough, but I have a question to you Toby: -is it really necessary to open all those hatches. I’ve counted to 25 units opened.with the exception of a couple, such as the fridge etcetera… I do beleive that everybody who is watching know what’s behind. I’m sorry about this complaint

[@rolfsvensson5777]

There is no perfect boat! Love when they put the sink so it drains regardless of tack! Safe in most aspects!

[@abhishekparmar6702]

can we get a review for contest 59 ? please ? 😇

[@Mordalo]

There is nothing blue water about this. Electric propulsion with a 30 nm range is insane. If I need a genset running constantly, what is the point other than as an ego experiment.

[@philareilly]

I’d love to know more about that other boat moored to the starboard side.

[@yachtingworld]

A Grand Soleil 50 I think

[@andre1987eph]

24:04 seems like it bobs up and down to much. But of they take 500,000 off I'll consider it 🤣

[@lisaoakley8032]

That's what I thought, based on the few videos here.

[@Kayaz48]

No. It isn't. Wrong Kiel, wrong bow, plexiglass too big and too thin. This is a shallow water coastal cruiser I would never take this into Bluewater

[@nicks8026]

Needs a hard dodger at the very least if XC hopes to live up to their claim of best cruising boat ever.

[@Fr3DDy73]

wonderful boat, as all X-yachts are (former proud owner of the glorious X-332 here)

[@Taugtaug]

1 Million?

[@bernardlanguillier7970]

I don't understand why they didn't raise the floor of the saloon to provide outside view while being seated inside, as in a Garcia 45/52/60. This would provide additional storage and result in a much nicer experience.

[@General_Crock]

To keep the weight lower- rising the floor has a significant impact on sailing performance.

[@deepeddysf]

Some interesting details. Similar to a rear cockpit Contest in some ways. For really long passages crossing oceans, I think a protected interior helm station is very important. Was hoping to see that in the Xc47. While the X may perform better, for the price I’d probably go with a Kraken.

[@will0ughby]

795k euro... I'll look at one in 25 years.

[@MrTrapper28]

According to a friend of mine who has had 4 Xyachts, he is of the opinion that they are nowhere near as well made as they used to be.

[@erichyney6287]

Thanks, Mr Toby.

[@n.o.b.1907]

Blue water? I would chooze a Garcia or an Amel or a Kraken. I would not fool around with an x yacht

[@gunnarwilliamson]

there's a Fisher panda in the boat. That's an immediate disqualification from the best Boat category.

[@kevinfisher1345]

The best, I suspect far from it. It would have to sail like a dream to overcome all the niggles and issues of what a bluewater boat needs and this one does not have. Oh sure it is a very nice boat and well thought out for perhaps even a live aboard cruiser, but at that price it should be. The price alone for what you get deters from this being the best, let alone a bluewater cruiser. Nor am I surprised the first boats have been fitted out as diesels. Not because that over electrical, but because their other option is horrible and inefficient. One will burn through more fuel motoring around than they would using an outright diesel engine ... not counting the range would be much less than stated counting all the other electrical in use on the boat. The limited solar panels is not ideal either. And the additional cost for that very limited range and it is really no wonder so many have chosen the diesel. Sounds like they really do not intend to seriously sell any of those to begin with, just to have the option to say that you do for marketing. Exposed helms and I could go on. It seems more like a med or carribean luxury boat to me. Except for the hull, rudder, etc this was a very good walk through of the boat. You pointed all the main high lights otherwise. You could have done a bit more questioning of some of the choices made though, instead of being totally positive about everything.

[@andybatchelor2069]

Shame about the teak decks. Too hot for the tropics

[@danpinsonsax]

Enjoyable review of a uniquely designed and impressively executed yacht.

[@bernardlanguillier7970]

What exactly is unique about it?

[@hadrianmeisengeier4303]

best sailing yacht, Toby? No, dont thing so, nby want to stand w/o any shelter on the rudder and have rain or sun on his head during the sail. Try an Amel50 (or 60), thats more or less best blue water yacht in my opinion. Perhaps more expensive than your recommended 47

[@tomhermens7698]

Blue water sailors need shelter from sun and rain. That little cockpit cover simply isn't good enough.

[@lnewbyliveca]

Needs a proper Bimini to carry 2,000-2500 watts of solar panels, then you could drop the generator, IF you are really cruising and not a weekender

[@norbertwest7492]

Can't say if it's the best cruiser but it's for sure the ugliest X Yacht ever built! It looks like the thesis of a design student who didn't know what to do; so his professor said why not do something with a hexagon...?

[@frankstocker5475]

Too complicated. over a million for a 47-foot sailing boat. for blue water sailing I would be looking at an HH cat for that price.

[@gunnarwilliamson]

there's a Fisher panda in the boat. It is definitely not the best. 😂

[@ArazQizilbash]

She can come first in the soullessness competition.

[@TeeFunkable]

Am I the only one thinking those hexagonal windows are almost "bleach my eyes" level of ugly?

[@tachyon5321]

Electric drive is stupid because if your mast would break you are done for.

[@antoncarmoducchi6057]

when you hear someone declare something they have made is 'the worlds best' its usually the opposite. personally, i am unimpressed by the layout and aesthetics... would not want to cost substantially more than a Beneteau or Jenneau.

[@syfeelingood]

50 nm under electrical power is really pathetic. The idea of running a yacht solely electrically is not ready for prime time and won't be for decades until battery storage gets way, way better and solar panels move from 25% efficiency closer to 100%. Think of it this way, you have energy in a battery that the electric motor uses up. Then you need to refill it somehow. Doing so when you are sailing (using hydro-generation of the electric motor through the propeller) is admirable of course but it will take an all day sail to do so (and more...) just to replace what the electric motor used let alone what the refrigeration, electronics, etc have used. The entire deck fitted with solar panels would not help that much. The only viable solution for now is to use a diesel generator to recharge the battery pack or, to extend the range of using the electric motor. So, think of this... instead of using diesel to directly run a diesel engine and provide propulsion (and using the alternator on the engine at the same time to charge batteries) you now use the same amount of diesel to run a larger generator to only provide power to recharge a set of batteries or to run the electric motor. This is an incredible inefficient of diesel fuel. This 'virtue-signaling' of 'saving the planet' by using 'green energy' is really misleading for now. I see potential but in the foreseeable future an efficient diesel engine is a much better and more reliable option than an electric motor.

[@SailingMOYA]

generator? aha ok… Yanmar it is. not surprised that all the first seven owners choose fossil option. and the forward owners cabin? not my style

[@kramwilliams9768]

Not a big fan of those soft closing drawers, if you’re caught in a heavy sea way working in the galley having to force the drawers closed to make sure they are latched. Too much effort when you’re getting bounced around and trying to hold on.

[@JimKJeffries]

Great choice in the diesel electric, great efficiency, greater range, less maintenance, quiet...awesome yacht.

[@philippesails4973]

Looks like a fat floating caravan to me!

[@paulpaul9914]

The aft cabin hatches are excellent rapid egress escape hatches. Some of the wood needs satin & gloss finishing. I'm not sure the saloon windows are positioned correctly for horizon viewing by a seated average height person.

[@SailFlyTri]

Is it just me or does he say the exact same thing about every boat?

[@Sekelele]

# id happily cruise this yacht. ⛵

[@metegokce697]

I swear I had seen a comment about some human rights abuse in Denmark. Is there censorship here too?

[@galactictomato1434]

What are you even talking about 😂

[@JimKJeffries]

In international surveys Denmark is almost always ranked among the ten countries in the world that have the strongest protection of its citizens' freedom and dignity (e.g. World Press Freedom Index and Freedom House). And Denmark is well known globally for its support for human rights defenders.

[@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus]

Some tin foil hat type was trying to claim that Denmark is trying to build a metals industry by stealing metal from asylum seekers. My guess is that someone entering the country had a knife taken away and is but hurt about it.

[@puertola7186]

It must be my comment. I can see it and it has some replies. It is not visible to you?

[@ohnezuckerohnefett]

It was my comment, but it's only available in First class. Sorry.

[@leudast1215]

It doesn't have a center cockpit. Have fun being washed overboard when the seas get genuinely rough. "blue water" my a$$.

[@jonnorousseau3096]

I'm not convinced about the ocean volt electric drive with a 30kw lithium ion phosphate battery bank and 11kw diesel generator (is the 600 odd litres of diesel tanks removed and replaced with batteries) 110k euros is a lot of money for a 30 mile range, an 80hp yanmar probably costs maximum 30k, no wonder all the new orders have gone diesel, what's the point of having an electric drive train if you need a generator to charge your already excessively large battery bank, and you'll never be able to fit enough solar to assist in charging so you'll realistically be running your generator if not daily then at least 4 days a week. False economy and buying into the so called green energy bulls$#@. Not a great blue water boat and definitely not the greatest blue water boat ever built by a long stretch IMO Nevermind that the water heater is directly above the electric motor with massive victron installation just forward of both, good thinking , what happens when your water heater springs a leak, just saying......??? Sorry but that's just stupid

[@falkpatt]

For people who only go out for day sails, electric drive is great. These are rich folks who seldom have the time for multiple days out. More and more boats are going to have this type of setup. It's not what I see myself ever desiring, but I'm the minority.

[@robertlee8042]

Only two helms? Why not three? Eeny miney mo. Which one makes it go? This is a boat show boat. No boat that doesn’t race around buoys screaming, “Buoy room!” needs a superfluous helm. And who needs to see forward through the nonexistent dodger window when you can lean overboard as you race from one side to the other and lean over the other side? This is a boat for people with lots of money and no experience. One crew member is dedicated to somehow blocking the sun from cooking your carcass through those stupid bastard shaped glassed Flash Gordon shaped holes in the thing. It’s preposterous.

[@woodstocknun]

eeeh... no

[@Papaondas]

No is not

[@keithmoorechannel]

It’s 47’ long, so, not the best bluewater cruiser ever.

[@yachtingworld]

? While not saying it necessarily is the best, why does length make a difference?

[@roderikvanl]

150kg x 2 = ? ;-)

[@JohnPambrun-si2qi]

Everyone has an opinion...But it's flawed ... Mediocre at Best

[@maddocmucmaddocmuc5341]

looks boring....

[@sandrahildebrand4475]

Would appreciate a comparison of XC 47, Allures 45 and Bestevaer, to name a few real BW cruisers

[@bernardlanguillier7970]

It may be good to include Garcia 45 as well

[@adrenazanetti3660]

When did Ikea start making boats? 🤣😂 this is very generic and well bland. Probably a good first timers boat but in no way compares to a Swan or Beneteau or Iman etc. curious on the price? I must have missed that.

[@kkklllaaa1234]

First time I’ve ever seen Swan and Beneteau mentioned in the same sentence

[@ralphw1804]

Where's the washer/dryer? Any blur water cruiser this size should have a washer/dryer.

[@yachtingworld]

Erm at 19.08 mins in?

[@MondoRockable]

Just need it in a 40 footer.

[@belladonna-r4u]

the best cruiser is a cat.

[@General_Crock]

Even when upside down?😄😁

[@kevinfisher1345]

While I think cat's are perfectly fine sailing around the world in and bluewater cruising .... any sailboat that has no self righting will NEVER be the best bluewater boat period.

[@casybond]

Bad sign one has to open cupboard door more than 90 degrees to slide out drawers. Even IKEA gets this right. kzbin.info/www/bejne/apzYf3qKo76mjtEsi=Ym6B-Wbk-tGUJU3R