The Best Case for Every GOAT

[@jonnyarnett]

**TIMESTAMPS BELOW** A compilation of my GOAT Players Series, including BRAND NEW cases for Michael Jordan and LeBron James. In these videos, I’m doing my best to make the strongest argument for each candidate. Who is your GOAT, and if you couldn’t pick him, who would it be instead?? Bill Russell 0:17 Wilt Chamberlain 8:52 Kobe Bryant 23:07 LeBron James 33:21 (BRAND NEW) Tim Duncan 40:57 Michael Jordan 47:51 (BRAND NEW) Kareem Abdul Jabbar 57:22 Larry Bird 1:03:29 Magic Johnson 1:11:42 Why the GOAT Debate is Stupid… AND Awesome 1:20:19 Every GOAT’s First Game 1:31:29 Every GOAT’s Last Game 1:39:46 The Worst Part of the GOAT Debate 1:48:40 Most Underrated Skill of Each GOAT 1:57:56

[@jaketerpening3284]

Russell, and if not him, MJ. Russell is the definition of playing the right way, and his insane ring count proves it.

[@snowreganit6739]

Witl is definition of stamina conan o brien show 20k women conan is funny on that episode

[@gibtherockeryt]

I'd be curious to know your top 10 all-time in order!

[@demontrekunjan4635]

Jordan to me is not the greatest perimeter defender he did not guard the best players night night out for majority of the game Scottie Pippen did that Did not play against competition at his position that was on the level that Colby played against and Colby had to guard the best guy every night. Tracey McGrady is harder than every single player shooting guard position in time aside from Jordan. And the same goes for Vince Carter Dwyane Wade. And many others. Jordan revolutionized the shooting guard position and that is where I give him the goat title for shooting guards is because I wouldn’t have Kobe without Jordan, but there is a catch since you revolutionized the shooting guard position and showed everyone how to make the shooting guard position great or how to be the greatest from the shooting guard position. Everyone switched up their place styles and started playing like you. You can say that, but that shows the league has evolved to what you were doing. and you were your generation now the generations have caught up. As shown Kobe added to Michael Jordan‘s style. And advanced it to a new state skill wise with Michael Jordan could do athletically is something that these other guys can’t do and that is his individuality as well, but Kobe makes up for that with mental and skills and hard work. I think Scottie Pippen was a better defender than Michael Jordan. Scottie Pippen deserves to be called the perimeter defender of all time. Before Michael Jordan does any day y’all can give Michael Jordan the defensive player year cool . He won that one year stats were getting padded. And I’m sure they were getting padded throughout his entire career because he was the face of the NBA and he was making the NBA so much money. I love Jordan, but Jordan fans make it hard than LeBron fans and different Kobe fans. I’m sure.

[@martini9248]

Jonny your videos make my day. More like my night. I have been in university for about 2 years now and have struggled with falling asleep. About a year ago i found your channel. Now it's apart of my nightly routine to listen to your basketball lessons to calm down and fall asleep while also learning. Thank you Jonny.

[@jonnyarnett]

Thats awesome, man! Glad I could help! Just read this comment to my wife so she could also hear how kind it is. It's cool that it works out for both of us, because these longer videos tend to do better than the regular videos on my channel, and my views tend to spike in the evenings, so it sounds like you're not alone in how you enjoy the content :) This is definitely the model of the channel from now on, so you can look forward to plenty more sleep-assisting longer compilations 👍

[@jesussaves21]

God bless y’all

[@martini9248]

​Oh wow i didn't think you would respond haha. That sounds great. I'm excited for the 200 questions video as the 150 questions one had me covered for many nights. I checked out your instagram and saw that you recently got an addition to the family. I wish your family nothing but the best! @@jonnyarnett

[@andrewcook1246]

Don't forget youngins. League changed 6 rules specifically to limit Wilt and he still put up 40ppg and 20rpg

[@sythkh9819]

The 🐐 giving us a 2 hour long video❤

[@Sf75178]

This video is correct in that there are a number of players that belong in the goat conversation. Too many say it is just 2 players

[@Cannon4545]

Imo though 1 of the 2 usually named in the debate ... shouldn't even be in the debate.

[@sideshowbobsaget8876]

😂😂there is no debate 😂😂

[@chillinhomeboys]

⁠@@Cannon4545your narrow-minded opinion is the core problem

[@Cannon4545]

@@chillinhomeboys Sure. Except it isn't narrow-minded, I just see what I see.

[@andrewcook1246]

6'6" in the 60s without shoes. 6'7 in 2024 with shoes.

[@TreFKennedy]

9:05 oh Shit, got Hit Em up in the background tho Johnny?? 🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@HorizonOfHope]

How did you leave off Paul Pierce? I saw this analyst who reckons his case is undisputed. I think his name was Paul Pierce or something.

[@andrewcook1246]

Gotta like any video shedding light on Russell and Wilt. I hope you got a few of those points from my constant nagging on your channel

[@youtubeisassho8834]

trolling* 😅

[@andrewcook1246]

@@youtubeisassho8834 lol respect

[@pioplu4803]

Wilt the goat​@@youtubeisassho8834

[@tyrismaxey]

This is dope! Great video.

[@richardscott9973]

This is a nice compilation, but I would also recommend Clayton Crowley making the case series, which makes these arguments in a little more depth...

[@MPHswayze]

Clayton Crowley actually makes good videos though. And Crowley's voice isn't annoying. Jonny Arnett sounds like Tony Hinchcliff if he swallowed helium

[@catherinelynnfraser2001]

We are too quick to rule out the giants who played in another era. I appreciate this nuanced discussion of the Greatest of all time. We know time is relative. Thank you Jonny ❤

[@kincamell2]

Gratitude . Bill Russell, Magic and Jordan.

[@makeitortakeitshaad]

There’s a handful of GOATs in their respective places but there will always be one REAL GOAT and that’s Michael Jordan

[@je5406]

100%

[@GlenDeaton]

Hard to say

[@andrewcook1246]

Boy you doing xgames type tricks on Jordan's meat talking about how he's the only real true goat.

[@TinyCat1015]

Debatable

[@andrewcook1246]

@@makeitortakeitshaad x game level meat riding lol.

[@nikaoharbour6962]

Interested in seeing Wilt and Kareem with competitive teams throughout their primes. Idk if Jordan would be the goat

[@alex4833]

Awesome video compilation, Jonny! While I have my own thoughts about who the GOAT is, I think there is a compelling case for each of the players you mentioned. I also agree with you about how divisive the debate has been. I appreciate the nuance in your arguments and agree that the debate is subjective. As for your question about who would win between Goku and Superman, I'm not sure. I'm more familiar with Superman and I know he has weaknesses to Kryptonite and magic. I'm not sure if Goku has weaknesses (but it's been a long time since I watched DBZ and I didn't see much of the show). I'll need to learn more (and read the DBZ manga) before saying who would win. Anyway, great compilation again, Jonny :). Have a wonderful weekend!

[@MPHswayze]

@@alex4833 there is zero compelling case for Kobe. His EXTREMELY flawed career has become an overly mythologized Tall Tale at this point. Jonny left reality in his childhood and never looked back

[@yoshikigrg8]

This video is 2 hours 18 minutes and 26 seconds long? Now you definitely deserve a *like* and *subscribe* 🔥

[@liljay2419]

The best basketball youtuber

[@jonnyarnett]

Idk about all that, but I appreciate it, and as long as you guys like the content, I'm happy :)

[@MPHswayze]

Where? Is Clayton Crowley in this video?

[@jantaramiyongsuntriyapas2570]

Each decade, you could argue there are only 3 GOTE players (Greatest Of Their Era). 50s: Mikan, Cousy, Pettit 60s: Russell, Wilt, Baylor 70s: Kareem, Erving, Havlicek 80s: Bird, Magic, Malone 90s: Hakeem, Jordan, Robinson 00s: Shaq, Kobe, Duncan 10s: LeBron, Curry, Durant 20s: Giannis, Jokic (???)

[@arrowkeys2787]

i agree with this

[@derekfnord]

That's an excellent list. I'd have to get Jerry West on there, though, either over Baylor in the 60s or Havlicek in the 70s.

[@zstrikerlol]

Luka

[@sideshowbobsaget8876]

Oscar over Baylor for the 60s. Not even a question

[@SD80]

Probably the best video explanation of who are but not who is the greatest. Simply put the GOATS are transcendent players that could play in era. The difference is not competition…it’s food, training, equipment, money, media, society, etc. It also is solid because we should never forget the ones before us and be students of the game instead of only looking at the now and making judgements. Funny how the same things said to diminish Lebron are the same stated about Russell.

[@poly_g6068]

Tired of people pretending LeBron's only case is longevity. He's the only player with 4 Finals MVPs. Jordan is the single only player with more.

[@MPHswayze]

Remember though that Kobe received Chris Paul's MVP. Kobe's 1 MVP > LeBron's 4. I don't think you understand the unbiased GOAT criteria used by lifelong Kobe fanatic Jonny Arnett

[@conduitofthegospeldarrellb9154]

TOP 30 ALL TIME: 1. Michael Jordan - AIR. Black Cat. The greatest player and the greatest career in NBA history. Most dominant offensive force and one of the games best defenders. A literal, overpowered video game character. 6x Champ 6x FMVP 5x MVP 1x DPOY 2. Bill Russell - BILLY. Russell is the greatest winner and greatest defensive force in NBA and sports history. A legend on/off court. The key to NBA first dynasty. 11x Champ 5x FMVP 5x MVP 3. Magic Johnson - the great PG ever (so far…). REVOLUTIONIZED his position and saved the NBA. He has the highest assist avg. all time and went to the Finals 7/12 seasons between his rookie season and first retirement. Remarkable. Magical. 5x Champ 3x FMVP 3x MVP 4. LeBron James - the greatest longevity in sports history. One of the most dominant forces ever and top5 all round player. ALLTIME points leader and the only player to keep up this quality of play this late into a HOF/Mt Rushmore career. Still.. counting. 4x Champ 4x FMVP 4x MVP 5. Tim Duncan - best PF ever. One of the most fundamentally sound players ever. Played both ends at the highest level for 15 seasons. BIG Fundamental 5x Champ 3x FMVP 2x MVP 6. Kareem Abdul Jabar - owner of the most dominant go-to move on offense. The HOOK. The previous scoring leader and lead all points for 4 decades. The greatest BASKETBALL career ever. Prep to Pro. 6x Champ 2x FMVP 6x MVP 7. Kobe Bryant - see number 1 and dilute the athleticism and physical intangibles and that’s what you got. Arguably the greatest warrior in NBA history. Bean lead LA to 7 titles in his 20 year career and took 5. A gladiator, general, philosopher and true sage of the game … forever missed. 24everMamba. 5x Champ 2x FMVP 1x MVP 8. Shaquille O’Neal - the most dominant ever. The immovable object/unstoppable force. Shaq was the definition of dominance. Should’ve been the goat. Nobody was in better position to take the crown of GOAT from MJ since Shaq in 04’. Yes. NOT Kobe, NOT LBJ. DIESEL. 4x Champ 3x FMVP 1x MVP 9. Larry Bird - maybe the most legendary on the list. Precursor to Jokic but better. One of the most skilled & clutch players ever. In any sport. LARRY LEGEND. 3x Champ 2x FMVP 3x MVP 10. Hakeem Olajuwon - back to back. The best of the mid90’s and second best player in the era. Hakeem is like Russell but with AllNBA offensive ability. 2x Champ 2x FMVP 1x MVP 2x DPOY 11. Wilt Chamberlain - the games most prolific scorers. Arguably it’s greatest defender as well. The man could do it all. Even lead the league in assist at 7”2. Wilt IS unparalleled. GOAT athlete. 2x Champ 2x FMVP 4x MVP 12. Steph Curry - the games most prolific shooter and one of its greatest scorers. The only unanimous MVP and the first ever. The catalyst for the current style of NBA basketball. REVOLUTIONIZED the game forever. STILL GOING. Splash Bro. 4x Champ 1x FMVP 2x MVP 13. Isaiah Thomas - ZEKE. CP3 before CP3 but nastier and meaner. A warrior and one of the games greatest strategist and generals. Quietly a top5 passer. 2x Champ 2x FMVP 14. Oscar Robertson - the greatest all around basketball player ever. Could do everything at a AllNBA level. Changed the way players were interpreted and influenced generations. 1x Champ 2x MVP 15. Kevin Durant - the Slim Reaper is likely the most ideal offensive weapon ever. Can hit from anywhere, anytime over anyone. Hard to beat and impossible to match that level of offensive dominance. 2x Champ 2x FMVP 1x MVP 16. Julius Erving - The good Dr., the FIRST MJ (before Magic & Jordan), The icon and face of BOTH leagues that saved the game in the 70’s. Kareem was the best but Doc was a close 2nd. Underrated statistical brilliance. Was like a 6’7-6’8 Giannis but with a better jump shot. 3x Champ (1 NBA) 2x FMVP 4x MVP (1 NBA) 17.. Moses Malone - CHAIRMAN OF DA BOARDS. Arguably the best board getter… ever. Only Wilt, Russell, Rodman and Thurmond belong in the same discussion. Moses lead his people to the promise land more than once but was able to claim immortality in the early 80’s. His team lead by the dynamic duo of he and Doc dominated the league. Before Lakers v. Celtics it was 76ers v. Celtics-Lakers. 1x Champ 1x FMVP 3xMVP 18. John Havlicek - the GREAT one. MJ is 6-0. Ole Johnny is 8-0. The offensive force off the bench or starting that lead the dynastic Celtics to all 8. Early in his career he was akin to Jordan Poole role on Warriors 22’ team but better at everything but the 3 ball. Then in the late 60’s-70’s he sat in captains seat. His career is a unique mix. Played like Pippen with elite perimeter shooting/scoring, early career was early Kobe-esque, late career MJ/Kobe-esque. John’s game rose in the playoffs. 8x Champ 1x FMVP (likely 4x) 19. Giannis Antetokounmpo - it’s getting freaky… GreekMan is literally on the ride to potentially threatening Tim’s best PF title. If he can add a couple more rings to his already HOF profile he will likely be the new PF or TOP 5 player. Yea. THAT GOOD. 1x Champ 1x FMVP 2x MVP 1x DPOY 20. Jerry West - The LOGO. Steph Curry before Steph. The man that built the LA franchise along Baylor post Mikan era. Jerry West was the blueprint skill base for players like Kobe, MJ, TMac, etc At 6’2-6’3 he torched his opponents his entire career and dropped plenty of dimes. The ORIGINAL combo guard. So damn great he LOST and still won FMVP… case closed. 1x Champ 1x FMVP 21. Nikola Jokic - the Joker is no damn joke. Genuinely a candidate for potential GOAT if his career pans out in the extreme positive like that of the top 10. Jokic is in a unique place being the greatest passing big statically NBA history (excluding Magic). If Jokic finds a way to fit more jewelry in his fingers, we might have to have a real discussion about that greatest Center of all time discussion. Yes. Potentially a top 5 player alert. 1x MVP 1x FMVP 3x MVP (should’ve been 3 consecutive but you know 22. Rick Barry - The ACTUAL “White Mamba”. Just predated the black one… Barry was the answer up until 85’ when you asked who the best SF ever. His game was similar to West but 6’7 and a better FT%. Controversial, cerebral and iconic. Had so much game he had to share what was left with his sons… 1x Champ 1x FMVP 23. Kevin Garnett - The Big Ticket. The 00’ Giannis. In every way but he had a better jumper midrange and beyond. KG was a monstrosity on OFF/DEF in his prime much like his modern comparison. Led the TWolves to relevance and led the 08’ Celtics to a chip. Truly the BIG TICKET. 1x Champ 1x FMVP 1x MVP 24. Dirk Nowitzki - DIGGLER. The one and only. The German Bird. THE Maverick. Dirk is one of the most beloved, iconic and acclaimed players ever. The 00’s stretch big supreme. Dirk was able to take the Mavs to immortality over 11’ Heat in arguably the most surprising run ever. Only Dirk. Forever the DIGGLER. Arguably, the GOAT Euro player. 1x Champ 1x FMVP 1x MVP 25. Bob Pettit - Big Blue was the first stretch 4 in the games history. That’s for starters. Pettit was a tenacious rebounder and highly skilled scorer. He was much akin to K. Love of his era but in better shape and played defense. Think a smaller Dirk who grabbed boards like Love but in the 50’s-60’s era. Not only that, much like Dirk, Pettit lead a historic upset over Russell’s Celtics. A true champ. 1x Champ 1x FMVP 2x MVP 26. Dwayne Wade - The Flash. Wade County. The greatest Heat in NBA history. Wade is arguably the best defensive player at his position and easily too3 (MJ, Kobe). Led the Heat to a title in 06’ in historic fashion against Dirks Mavs. Then winning a couple more as LBJ’s Pippen. His career was like Kobe’s… in reverse. Wade’s early injuries reduced his maximum career output but yet here he is… says a ton. 3x Champ 1x FMVP 27. Elgin Baylor - The PROTOTYPE. Before West, Julius, Thompson, Wilkins, MJ, Hardaway, Kobe, Carter, TMac, Wade, Ant etc There was Elgin Baylor. The first Air, the first Mamba, the first Half Man/Amazing, Flash etc Baylor spearheaded an era that hardly wanted his talents there but had no other choice but to be in awe of it. Think Harden, in shape but not as good of a playmaker, twice the rebounder and a better defender. That’s Elgin. *left a season before historic LAL title win 28. David Robinson - The Admiral. The USA’s biggest weapon in the 90’s was also one of the greatest ever. Made the spurs relevant pre-Duncan and post. Has some of the greatest seasons statistically. Think Giannis but 7’2 with a lefty and 15 footer plus an even better defender. 2x Champ 1x MVP 29. Karl Malone - the Mailman. Karl was LBJ minus the handles and vision. King of the pick n roll. 1x MVP 30. Kawhi Leonard - “THE KLAWWW” See numbers 1 & 7 but less athletic and more efficient than #7. However Kawhi is far less durable than Kobe or Mike. Who were essentially ironmen. A comparable defender to both players. Despite that fact, Kawhi has beaten LBJ in the finals and the Warriors dynasty. The only player who can say that… Ever. 2x Champ 2x FMVP 1x DPOY 30. (?) Charles Barkley - The Round Mound of Rebound was the Tasmanian devil in a basketball jersey. Prime 25 5 13 guy. Impact everywhere he went. OG DREAMTEAM member by the way… 1x MVP 30 (?) Clyde Drexler - The Glide. One of the most useful all around talents in nba history. One of the greatest two way players ever. Helped every squad he went to become a contender. 1x Champ * HONORABLE MENTION: McHale, Nash, Harden, Parker, CP3, Stockton, Walton, Payton, Westbrook, Drexler, Ewing, Sam Jones, Cousy, Pierce, Iverson, McAdoo, Frazier, Unsled, Reed, Webber, English, A. Davis ^GIVE HONEST FEEDBACK CRITIQUE ATTEMPTING A PERFECT TOP30 list

[@TinyCat1015]

I agree on most your takes but I just cant agree with Lebron not being top two at worst. Also magic and bird I think should always be next to eachother on a list

[@ruyi677]

Charles barkley should be lowkey higher

[@andreisevostianov9525]

If we agree that the length of a career matters (i.e. you played longer - you've brought more value) my top-30 would be the following (since the merger in 1976): 1. LeBron 2. Duncan 3. MJ 4. Magic 5. Karl Malone 6. Shaq 7. Bird 8. Hakeem 9. Curry 10. Kobe 11. Durant 12. CP3 13. Dirk 14. Ewing 15. Harden 16. Barkley 17. Moses 18. Isiah Thomas 19. David Robinson 20. Kidd 21. Nash 22. Jokić 23. Garnett 24. Giannis 25. Allen Iverson 26. Kareem 27. Kawhi 28. Dr J 29. Wade 30. Clyde Drexler

[@hogg4229]

Stopped reading when you put Lechoke at number 4. He is maybe top 10, but playing for 22 years and losing 6 finals 2 Olympics, and another FIBA silver medal (loss) does not a top 5 player make. Bird would have him in the corner crying at SF.

[@hogg4229]

@@TinyCat1015he was any even the best SF. He is 2nd best, and would come off the bench on a team with Magic, Bird, and Jordan on it. Just because you play for 22 years doesn’t make you the best.

[@theconservativechristian]

Who's the goat Jordan from 87 to 90 Jordan from 91 to 93 or Jordan from 96 to 98

[@jonnyarnett]

91-93 MJ for sure. Best mix of athleticism and fundamentals. Peak confidence, peak perimeter shooting and peak physical strength

[@apex_blade]

@@jonnyarnett MJ's individual peak was 87-90 tho. It's unfortunate he had 0 help going up against all time teams in that time period.

[@Yoursss_Trulyyy]

Kobe talked about Jordan asking Kobe this question who would win between Jordan 91 vs Kobe 03?

[@zstrikerlol]

For me its Jordan 89-91

[@theconservativechristian]

@@jonnyarnett 100% agree 👍

[@andrewcook1246]

I havent met a single 70+ year old fan who watched the 60s who doesnt say its either Wilt or Russell.

[@youtubeisassho8834]

Keep spamming.

[@andrewcook1246]

@@youtubeisassho8834 its not spam I have different comments as I watch the video. Its a basketball discussion channel. I also don't know how you can watch a dude avg 50 and 25 and another win 11 rings and have anybody over them

[@Methodiev]

@@youtubeisassho8834you make me miss the dislike count

[@inefekt]

@@andrewcook1246 because Wilt took 40 shots per night to get those 50 points. MJ shot 40 or more times in a game SEVEN TIMES IN HIS ENTIRE CAREER. Wilt was a regular season stud but a post season dud, averaged 30 bullying bottom feeders in the regular season then fell off a cliff in the playoffs averaging just 22ppg and then again in the Finals fell off another cliff averaging just 18ppg. That is the complete opposite to MJ who also averaged 30ppg in the regular season but then increased that average to 33ppg in the playoffs then upped that average yet again in the Finals. THAT is greatness and Wilt doesn't get anywhere near that. Btw, Wilt might famously own the most regular season NBA records than anyone else but Jordan, less famously, owns the most playoff records than anyone else. If you ask any coach who they would prefer, a regular season stud who fails to sustain that excellence in post season or a regular season stud who performs even better in the post season and they will ALL say the latter. Literally nobody would take the guy who doesn't bring it in the playoffs. As for Bill...well he had a massively stacked team and was a below average offensive threat. Many of his championship seasons he would not have won Finals MVP as one of his teammates deserved it more. Russell has a better case than Wilt though but none of them deserve the crown over Jordan.

[@andrewcook1246]

@@inefekt Wow you must hate basketball and completely ignored the Wilt section lol. Jordan lead the league in attempts and misses for all his scoring titles too, so guess he was a shot chucker too. But unlike Wilt he wasn't leading the league in fg% while doing so on top of rebs, blocks, doubles doubles, triple doubles and quad doubles. Wilt played in the first or 2nd most stacked era for Centers. His scoring avg dipped because he was specifically told to stop scoring by his coach. Even after not scoring for years he still avg the same ppg as Jordan for a career. You make up excuses for Jordan losing to Detroit and Bird but think Wilt with a bad team was gonna beat a team 8hof deep? XD. Jordans Finals teams usually avg 2x the hof the opponent had btw. Oh and lets not get it twisted. THE LEAGUE CHANGED 6 RULES TO STOP WILT. THEY CHANGED THE RULES SO MIKE COULD DOMINATE! Lol you shit on Wilt and in the same breath acknowledge Bill was on a stacked team. Listen here younging the guy who they named the fmvp award wasn't gonna win a lot of fmvp? Thats your argument? Of all awards were handed Bill is sitting AT LEAST on 5-9fmvp and 5-7 dpoty. That brings hos resume to 11 rings, 7fmvp, 5mvp and 5+ dpoty. Mike can't compete with that. And if you struggle to recognize winning basketball as greatness that on you.

[@fortnitejake850]

Checked the timestamps and I’m sad to see no Chef Curry 😢

[@inefekt]

that's because he is nowhere near GOAT status....it's arguable he's not even top ten

[@hellraiser420]

​@inefekt right. To say Steph is top 10 you have to remove one of these 10 names Jordan Kobe Kareem LeBron Magic Bird Russell Wilt Duncan Shaq There's no name there I can rationally put Curry avove, you can even argue Hakeem deserves a top 10 spot more, makin Curry at best top 12

[@MPHswayze]

@@inefekt same with Kobe, but people overrate him into the top 10 anyway

[@notnate88]

​@@MPHswayzeKobe.. overated??? 😂

[@MPHswayze]

@@notnate88 dudes who geek out over Kobe myths are cringe

[@Yoursss_Trulyyy]

This is the best goat video well produced informative and fair

[@jonnyarnett]

I appreciate it!! Really tried my best to do justice by each candidate.

[@MPHswayze]

😂fair? It has his childhood favorite on here. The guy with one MVP and two scoring titles is the GOAT apparently. The guy who played on a better player's team for 8 years and "won" a bunch of rigged championships in the Stern/Donaghy era

[@michaelhunziker7287]

None higher than MJ

[@ezellouisyt]

We love you prof Jonny!! ❤

[@MANDMK]

Can you make a video about why those players are NOT in the GOAT debate in your opinion (not just those, the list isn't full of course) Shaq Hakeem Jerry West

[@MPHswayze]

You have to understand that Kobe fanatics are obsessed with discrediting Shaq, Pau, Phil, and Duncan. They are experta at pretending all the unsavory facts don't exist. This WHOLE CHANNEL was begun because a weird kid with a sassy voice wanted to ride Kobe's dick indefinitely. Jonny Arnett is basically Truth Social to Kobe's Trump.

[@fortynights1513]

Out of curiosity what music track did you use in the Derrick Rose Hall of Fame video?

[@gotwobag7876]

ONE HUNDRED NINETY FIVE THOUSAND!!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@hogg4229]

When you brag you are the greatest of all time you can be assured you aren’t. You should always think you are the best, but when you brag about it you have some issues

[@meh7348]

Lol, sure. If you think MJ doesn't walk around thinking he's the greatest of all time you're delusional. One thinks it and the other says it, no real difference.

[@TheeKing7]

Game 6 Klay is when another player helped my favorite player shine by making sure they won that series.

[@richardscott9973]

I think it is MJ in the nba, but if we are talking high school college and NBA then it's Kareem easily...

[@inefekt]

high school is just a bunch of kids running around....same with half of college players the only competition that matters are those that involve grown men and in basketball that means NBA & FIBA Kareem doesn't have any FIBA accolades. Are you going to tell me Kareem's accomplishments in high school and college surpass Jordan's two Olympic gold medals? Not to mention MJ also got a college championship to match one of Kareem's 3 college championships.

[@richardscott9973]

@@inefekt I said in terms of the NBA jordan is the GOAT...but Kareem's high school team was the greatest of the century, for high school and his years at UCLA have never been matched not even close by anyone... So although you make a perfectly good point, in terms of Olympic teams Kareem apart from 68...he was pro so he couldn't play but he could and would have won in 72, 76, 80 and 84 easily maybe even in 88... Finally Jordan wasn't even the best player when his college team won, that was James Worthy...

[@genxfusion]

Bill Russell is my GOAT.

[@kdnladner93]

I’d love to see videos about the top teams of every decade and best teams of every decade that are ringless

[@gotwobag7876]

It’s Friday!!🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@derekusan7946]

❤

[@FGBduck6]

I never really felt theres a true GOAT. I say this because every era has played by different rules. Also its kinda unfair to compare them when they play different positions with different responsibilities. Bigmen will have more rebounds, and blocks while guards will have more assists, and points(on avg).

[@DIXIE-DEAN]

Cant wait until Anthony Bennett peers up

[@spicybrixx74]

Just wanna see who's here before 3 hours

[@NEOQEAVCS2]

Earlyyyyyyy I don't know what to say

[@jonnyarnett]

Lol, the comment helps the video all the same, so I appreciate you! 😂

[@NEOQEAVCS2]

@@jonnyarnett video Idea: best 6th men ever or best 6th man of the year winners

[@faltenbacher]

For the Jordan/Lebron comparison i always have to think of the quote "The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long"

[@gotwobag7876]

Have a good Sunday!!!

[@deadchannel3462]

Russell had stacked teams with 6 or 7 Hall of Famers for his career. Wilt is the GOAT and was the best defensive player ever.

[@morrisparrish76]

“There can be only one GOAT”!……….Bob Eaton

[@daovrlord8051]

Jesus im early but god im hyped

[@bsjeffrey]

meadowlark lemon is the only goat.

[@alejanoelallen1952]

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[@HopeandPeace4]

Jordan is the Goat: But I have Goats in every Era. I do have a Question even though Bill Russel is 1 of the 2 Goat of the 60's beside Wilt/ did the 8 expansion teams make it easier for the Celtics to win their championships/ Just curious on what you think. In the Goat Debate: I Do believe that there are Goats of every Era in Basketball/ But on the other hand I believe that there can be a Goat of Goats. But I have been going about it all wrong: Because now, when I think of the Greatest of (All-Time) I realized that every player in NBA history should be considered for this #1 Most Prestige Status: And the evaluations or criterions should be fair to every player in NBA History because every player has a ranking. When it comes to Stats & Awards & Position: Because Rebounds, Steals, Blocks, Advance Stats, 3pt% and Many awards that just did not exist way back to when the NBA Began in 1949 & embraced the History & Stats back to 1946-47 season and for every player whole career. I began to think What can I used to be fair to even Joe Fulks: Just wanted to Share: what I came up with: This is the Criteria that I now use to be Fair & to give every player in NBA history a Shot at this #1 Most Prestige Award: Regard to the: Regular Season/ Play-Offs/ Finals #1. Totals: Points #2 Averages: Points #3. 2pt% (it is nothing more than the FG% without the 3pt% because 3pt% was not available in every player Era. #4. FT% #5. Assist: Score #6. Clutch Shots Buzzer Beater only. Because these shots are dated & recorded in 1946 which John Barr was the 1st player who got a BB in 1946, #7. Player with the Most: 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90, 100 pt games. #8 Player that Achieved: 1th, 5th,10th, 20th, 30th, 40th, 50th, 60th pts in less time. #9. TS% #10. Awards: All NBA Teams/ Scoring Titles/ Assist Titles/ 75th NBA Anniversary: and every player that was selected from every Era all the way back to 1946 in NBA history/ every player also had 1 shot to make it on that list. #12. Lead the league in their (own) Era in Most of the Statistical Categories. And players who played 80+ games the most. #13. The Eye Test #14. Shooting skills/ Shot Creation/ offensive Versatility/ Basketball I.Q/ Footwork which is all subjective. No championship because that is a team accomplishment However:1 thing to Note: if a fan wants to compare any 2 players or a few players the same rule will apply make it fair & even: So, if certain Stats & Awards did not exist in certain player era you cannot use it & if it is not the exact same award you cannot use it, if the Stat & Award was not available for every player you are comparing for their whole career you cannot use it. The Criteria will change if a fan uses specific players/ it depends on the Era they both come from/ and that determines what you can use & not use. The Last step when comparing any player to another player make their years even.

[@meh7348]

It will always be, GOTE, Greatest Of Their Era, for me.

[@uberneanderthal]

NBA fans disrespect Mikan way too much. he should be treated with the same respect as Babe Ruth, Rocket Richard, Joe Louis, Pele, and Otto Graham, if not more. statistically: .25 WS per game, most in history (no one but Wilt is even close) winning: 5 titles in 6 years (and the one loss was to the eventual champs) charisma/popularity: the 1st superstar, sold out arenas when the sport rarely did legacy: rules changed and tactics adapted specifically for him; league might not even exist without his early star power it's arguable that no player in **any** sport has had as much impact as Mikan. easy GOAT

[@HopeandPeace4]

I agree with you about "George Mikan" (and that's why I came up with a Criteria that make it fair for every player in NBA History)/ And I realize that I have been comparing all of them the wrong way/ My Criteria now give every player a fair shot at this #1 Most Prestige Status of All-Time. Not saying that I think George Mikan is the Goat of Goats be he have a great Case.

[@IEmulateGames]

Rant Warning I don't do G.O.A.T. talks because people only hear what they want to hear. Why can't there be multiple G.O.A.Ts? It stands for greatest of all time, last time I checked, that doesn't mean a single person necessarily. You can't praise/give credit to LeBron with being called a "Bronsexual". You can't talk about MJ without the "Left Hand" allegations. Kareem has the "saved by Magic" arguement. Kobe wasn't efficient enough. Everybody wants to discredit/disregard every player aside from the one they like. J. Cole said it best: "They act like two legends cannot coexist"

[@MPHswayze]

One of those guys has 100 more things to pick apart besides his efficiency in "the GOAT convo."

[@jahbrilplaysgamesandstuff326]

Lebron haters will literally argue against nba legends that lebron is a bum idk if those people have brains

[@BeerAndJointsAllDay]

Lebron *fanboys* will literally argue against nba legends that *they are bums* idk if those people have brains there, it's fixed

[@daovrlord8051]

Holy fuck its two hours long

[@MPHswayze]

Narcissists don't have a filter

[@inefekt]

didn't know that about Kareem's statue.....Lakers really are a trash organisation, absolutely classless

[@disloyal-i4s]

jonny arnet the glazer

[@Mr3824KB]

Kobe the goat Or MJ No one come even close after that

[@MPHswayze]

Kobe gets dudes in their feelings so bad 💅

[@markjackson6431]

Bob Lanier isn’t a goat but he was a darn good player. most underrated player ever. Bobby Jones and Nate Thurmond come close in underratedness.

[@MPHswayze]

Sam Jones has become the most underrated player in my view

[@kennyunderwood3602]

there is Wilt......then everybody else.

[@xJopeRz]

lebrons been a player coach since 15'

[@albertoascari9390]

Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant. And is not even close.

[@MPHswayze]

The weirdest thing in sports is how obsessed Kobe and his fanatics are with attaching him to Michael Jordan

[@jahbrilplaysgamesandstuff326]

@@MPHswayze kobe was never in the goat debates before he died no disrespect

[@eboticus3421]

Stannis the Mannis period

[@AquariusLeviathanProphecy]

Can The 🐐 be Ben Simmons 😮😮😮😮 Future ROY

[@thoughtsuponatime847]

Bill Russell is the GOAT.

[@Cannon4545]

Wilt doesn't get enough appreciation from people under 60 or something.

[@BESToftheWEST8]

get money 💰

[@DARTH-KTULU]

Let’s replace The GOAT with the GOTE (greatest of their era)

[@inefekt]

Bron stans starting to get a reality check 😅🤣😆

[@MPHswayze]

Either way the geeky fanatics who worship a cult of personality will rewrite history. Kobe was a sidekick on another dudes team for 8 years. He was never better than Duncan. Kobe AND Shaq directly benefited from a corrupt commissioner and his gambling addict refs... They call it the "Kobe era" now 🙄

[@JosephWoods-gj7ke]

Tomwooow🎉😊

[@bobbymoore2076]

Wilts the most dominant not the greatest

[@BeerAndJointsAllDay]

Wilt is the best player ever, but not the greatest

[@edwardwood3622]

Kobe fanboy exposed here. Kobe was NEVER the best player in the league, average shooter and average defender. Fanboy’s think highlight reels count for something.

[@skye6817]

Forgot george mikan

[@DuranmanX]

None for Hakeem? Isnt he in your top 10

[@andrewcook1246]

Kind of crazy Kobe made it but Hakeem didn't

[@MPHswayze]

​@@andrewcook1246it's literally crazy. The fanaticism around Kobe's cult of personality is insane behavior

[@BeerAndJointsAllDay]

@@MPHswayze Kobe won back to back with no help, Hakeem won back to back with no help too. Where is the difference?

[@MPHswayze]

@BeerAndJointsAllDay 1. *2010 title was awarded to the Lakers by Scott Foster in the 4th quarter of Game 7 2. KOBE HAD FUCKING HELP IDIOT. Two All NBA big men, best 6th man in the league with Odom, the best perimeter defender in the West with Artest. Kobe geeks are so fucking weird and you all act so gay over the guy 🌈🌈

[@L4ZER-j3n]

Jordan is the goat with shoes and best brand legoat is the goat

[@lettuce83883]

Everyone knows the goat is thanasis

[@AdLast]

Did you need to clean yourself after this voice over?

[@WcoopW]

So many casual fans in the comments it’s insane.

[@greengirl4486]

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[@warreno.bryant4406]

One of the best marathon video tell u the full history of the game who people know think who the goat is hard to judge gauge if u start a team u cant go wrong with any player discuss great video j.a

[@Diego-dk7ol]

In your opinion, who among the 9 GOATs had the most help?

[@TinyCat1015]

Bill russel: John Havelick (16 years), Bob Cousy (7 years), Sam Jones (12 years), Tom heinsohn (9 year maybe). Coaches: Red Auerbach (9 years i think) Wilt: jerry West ( 4 years), Hal Greer (9 years), Elgin (3 years possibly), Nate thurmond (2 years i think), billy cunningham (i dunno), Paul arazin (I dunno), Chet walker (4 years), Gail goodrich ( like 4 or 5 years). Coaches: Alex hannum and Bill sharman. Kobe: Shaq (8 years), Pau gasol ( 7 years), Eddie jones (3 years), Carson butler (one year). Coaches: the goat phil jackson for 12 years. Lebron: Wade (4 years), Bosh (4 years), Kyrie (4 years), Love (4 years), AD ( 4+ years). Coaches: Spo for (4 years) Tim Duncan: David Robinson (6 years), Manu (14 years), tony P (15 years), Kawhi (5 years), Bruce bowen (8 years). Coach: Popp arguably the goat MJ: Scottie (10 years), Rodman (3 years), Horace Grant (6 years). Coach: Phil jackson. Kareem: Magic (10 years), Oscar robertson (4 years), Bob Mcadoo (4 years), Jamaal Wilkes (8 years), James Worthy (12 years) Michael Cooper (12 years). Byron scott (10 years). Coaches: Pat riley Larry Bird: Kevin Mchale (12 years), Robert Parish (14 years), Dennis Johnson (7 years), Danny Ainge (8 years), Cedric Maxwell (6 years). Coaches: KC Jones ( 5 years). Magic: Kareem (10 years), james worthy (12 years), Michael Cooper (12 years), Byron Scott (10 years) Now obviously I missed some players on this list let me know who I forgot, but also Wilt and Bill's are probably messed up because they played in the 60's and data is hard to find. I'd say Kareem, Bird, or Wilt had the most help and MJ and Kobe had the least amount.

[@hogg4229]

That’s easy, the one who ran from superteam to superteam

[@TinyCat1015]

@@hogg4229 Lebron only played on one superteam bud

[@inefekt]

@@TinyCat1015 stop being delusional....a superteam is generally regarded as three All Star/All NBA quality players playing together in their primes or two out and out superstars (Kobe + Shaq). Miami of course were a superteam....Cavs were also a superteam, like it or not. You will probalby try to talk down Kevin Love as some kind of scrub, just like Bron stans do with all his teammates (which is sadly pathetic btw) but that dude was a monster in Minny, averaging 26/12 the season prior to joining LeBron as well as being a 3x all star and 2x all nba. All NBA 2nd team pretty much means you are a top ten player. It's not his fault he got relegated to being a spot up shooter standing in the corner as well as being a victim of multiple passive aggressive Lebron tweets. And we haven't even talked about multiple all star Kyrie Irving who was on the cusp of superstardom when joining Lebron. If you don't think that's a superteam you need to follow a different sport because you obviously no nothing about this one. Then teaming up with AD, one of the most dominant big men of the past 20 years, as well has having former multiple all nba and all star players like Dwight, Westbrook, Rondo & Carmelo and that pretty easily qualifies as a superteam. Rodman was almost out of the league, past his prime and a laughing stock who nobody wanted when he joined MJ but that doesn't stop people using him to qualify the Bulls as a superteam....so we can use those guys LeBron played with too.

[@TinyCat1015]

@@inefekt Cleveland was not a super team lmao, you can talk about what kevin love did before all you want but with lebron he averaged 17, 10, and 2. That would be like saying the Nuggets are a super team with Jokic, MPJ, and Jamal murray. Keyword former OUT OF THEIR PRIME superstars, no way you can look me dead in the eyes and say Rondo, Melo, Dwight, and Russ were a superteam. Maybe in 2010 that would have been a great team. You genuinely don't think the Bulls were a superteam? A team that won 72 games with the best rebounder of all time, arguably the greatest player of all time, one of the greatest defenders and sidekicks of all time? Rodman was also one of the best defenders of all time. Just stop it, Lebron has played for one super team in Miami for 4 years, Cleveland was a fringe superteam, and LA absolutely wasn't a superteam.

[@nine3seven]

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[@smittywerbenjagermanjensen320]

Wilt >

[@inefekt]

Regular season stud.....post season dud. That isn't a GOAT....sorry to burst your old man bubble.

[@smittywerbenjagermanjensen320]

@@inefekt Check his stats from the 1967 postseason, especially the series against the Celtics. That was the only year of the 60’s that the Celtics didn’t win the championship. Boston was stacked top to bottom with hall of fame players and coaches for the entire decade, and arguably had the greatest coach of all time. I was born in 2001 so definitely not biased towards older players, I just do my research. The Nets offered 50 year old Wilt a contract to play for them. Shaq could barely run baseline to baseline in his final years in the league

[@inefekt]

@@smittywerbenjagermanjensen320 Wilt's Sixers were also chock full of HOF players, with five including himself and then another two All Star/All NBA quality players on top of that. Rebounding stats from those days need to be taken with a very healthy dose of salt. When you have multiple players having 20+ rebound seasons you need to ask yourself why, considering it hasn't been done once in decades. The answer is the insane pace they played at coupled with the poor efficiency that led to a lot more missed shots than you get today. The opportunities for rebounds was crazy high and that's why it wasn't only Wilt who had high numbers but a bunch of other players too. Bill Russell has almost identical career rebounding numbers as Wilt. So his crazy rebounds aren't really that impressive, just a reflection of the era. His 21ppg and 9apg should also be looked at in context and adjusted to the very high pace of the era and those adjusted numbers would be around 17/7 at a modern pace of 100. You say you've researched that era but it doesn't really sound like you have or you simply do not look at the era in the context it should be looked at...just taking everything at face value instead.

[@smittywerbenjagermanjensen320]

@@inefekt On the surface that’s a valid argument, but redundant as Wilt would have led the league in rebounds regardless of pace. I’d say the inefficiency was at least partly due to the fact that defenders could crowd the paint. The NBA’s rules were not the same as today, dribbling was restrictive which encouraged players to pass the ball more. That resulted in a faster game. Pistol Pete dribbled a lot which was unusual at the time and somewhat controversial. That helped pave the way for future generations of guards. I think the fast pace makes Wilt’s minutes per game averages even more impressive, and he did it wearing Chuck Taylor’s. He continued to play heavy minutes even after knee surgery in 1970. Another big reason why pace decreased was the implementation of the three point line in the ‘79-‘80 season

[@smittywerbenjagermanjensen320]

@@inefekt Also, the Celtics without Russell would have been better than any Wilt team without Wilt. In Russell’s first game, the four starters he played with were all hall of famers, most notably Bob Cousy. The season after he retired, the Celtics still had 5 hall of fame players on the roster. The season after that, they drafted Dave Cowens. They won two more championships before Bird was drafted in 1978.

[@ATroubledGreensLibrary]

🎉❤

[@gotwobag7876]

Hello!!😊

[@ejkboxing]

The Lakers became the favorites to win the championship the second Pau Gasol was traded to them. Stop acting like that didn't happen.

[@jacoblee5796]

There was so much wrong with his GOAT case for Kobe and that was a big one. The rest of league was pissed that Gasol was traded, they didn't even know Gasol was available for a trade. There were GMs that wanted the Lakers and Griz to get fined over that trade. That trade instantly made the Lakers contenders and that was the talk at the time. They went 22-5 after that trade going into the playoffs, they were one of the favorites to come out of the West. This revisionist history is getting out of hand.

[@davis2k1234]

The Lakers were already fighting for the 1 seed in the West pre Gasol trade they made it because Bynum suffered a season ending injury he would have gone to the Finals with Bynum if he stayed healthy Also Grizzlies got his brother Marc who was better then Pau by 2011 and anchored those teams

[@MPHswayze]

​@@jacoblee5796another ridiculous Kobe fanatic who refuses to get out of his feelings when presenting "facts" about him

[@gotwobag7876]

👍👍🙌🙌

[@RenegadeGunn]

1950s/1960s/1970s: 1. Bill Russell 2. Wilt Chamberlain 3. Jerry West 4. Elgin Baylor 5. Pete Maravich 6. Oscar Robertson 7. Bob Cousy 8. George Mikan 9. Bob Petit 10. Bill Walton 11. Julius Erving 12. George Gervin 13. Connie Hawkins 14. Walt Fraizer 15. John Havelick 16. John Thompson 17. Rick Barry 18. Elvin Hayes 1980s: 1. Magic Johnson 2. Larry Bird 3. Kareem Abdul Jabbar 4. Moses Malone 5. Micheal Cooper 6. James Worthy 7. Kevin McHale 8. Isiah Thomas 1990s 1. Micheal Jordan 2. Charles Barkley 3. Reggie Miller 4. Karl Malone 5. John Stockton 6. Hakeem Olajuwon 7. Patrick Ewing 8. Scottie Pippen 9. Dennis Rodman 10. David Robinson 11. Dikembe Mutombo 12. Gary Payton 13. Shawn Kemp 2000s 1. Kobe Bryant 2. Shaquille O'Neal 3. Allen Iverson 4. Dwayne Wade 5. Dirk Nowitzki 6. Tim Duncan 7. Ben Wallace 8. Ray Allen 9. Kevin Garnett 10. Paul Pierce 11. Steve Nash 12. Jason Kidd 13. Vince Carter 14. Tony Parker 15. Manu Ginoboli 16. Tracy McGrady 17. Derrick Rose 18. Dwight Howard 2010s: 1. LeBron James 2. Kevin Durant 3. Stephen Curry 4. Russell Westbrook 5. Kawhi Leonard 6. James Harden 7. Draymond Green 8. Chris Paul 9. Jimmy Butler 10. Kyrie Irving 11. Damien Lillard 2020s: 1. Nikola Jokic 2. Luka Donkic 3. Jayson Tatum 4. Joel Emibid 5. Giannis Antetukumbo 6. Anthony Edwards 7. Ja Morant 8. Jamal Murray 9. Trae Young 10. Devin Booker

[@MPHswayze]

Tim Duncan the best player of the 2000s at 6th? You're fucking geeking all over the flashy players. Dang! Let it ride, dickrider!

[@jahbrilplaysgamesandstuff326]

@@RenegadeGunn lebron not in the 2000s? He has 2 mvps and a finals appearance lmao

[@ChrisWhitfield-zp5jv]

Pick two from every era and start a championship roster team for the ages facts I give you my fifteen in a minute

[@MPHswayze]

@@RenegadeGunn John Stockton is INSANELY overrated here wtf are you doing?! 13 ppg 3rd option playoff choker with only 2 1st team All NBAs over Hakeem? You gotta fix this

[@HopeandPeace4]

Great Lists: I have for #1: 40"s Joe Fulks/ 50's George Mikan/ Although I would like to see the #1 for each. 60's Bill Russel & Wilt Chamberlain/ 70's Kareem & Julius

[@greengirl4486]

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[@Cannon4545]

Kobe's athleticism wasn't elite lol. He just worked out/trained 24/7 and conditioned himself, to his max potential, but his genes weren't anything special.

[@penkima4923]

So, his athleticism was close to elite.

[@jacoblee5796]

Kobe wasn't an athletic freak like MJ or LBJ but Kobe was definitely athletic.

[@Cannon4545]

@@jacoblee5796 Yeah, athletic, just not especially athletic to my eyes.

[@jacoblee5796]

@@Cannon4545 Ok, but Kobe was above average athletically, borderline elite. But there are plenty of superstar players with ZERO athleticism so I don’t see why this matters.

[@Cannon4545]

@@jacoblee5796 ..it was in response to the video's calling his athleticism elite. And no, imo not borderline elite. He never really impressed me. There absolutely aren't "plenty of superstar players with ZERO athleticism", btw, the only one is Nikola Jokic, and I guess Luka. Alex English also comes to mind although "zero" might be overstated for him.

[@KingVoss]

Ring wise Bill and MJ are the goats stats single player wise Lebron Kareem wilt for me but Bron is my true goat 🐐

[@snakebacon2078]

Bill Russell was the best player on the greatest dynasty of all time but that doesn't make him the goat. Sorry but you're gonna have to average more than 15 ppg and shoot more than 44% from the field and 56% from the line to be the greatest. The greatest defender of all time, sure. The greatest winner of all time, sure, but not the goat.

[@MPHswayze]

Bill averaged the most assists by a center in NBA history until some guy named Nikola Jokic came along, who I heard is a pretty good passer. If you took away 3 assists per game and turned them into 3 more baskets per game, Russell would have been a 20 PPG scorer while still averaging more assists per game than 2 dozen Hall of Fame big men Bill Russell valued winning a championship every year he was healthy from college junior to NBA retirement & getting his teammates involved in scoring on the fast break >> scoring 3 more baskets per game so a bunch of geeks 50 years in the future can see a round number

[@BeerAndJointsAllDay]

@@MPHswayze no he didn't, Wilt averaged much more assists per game, still to this day the only big men to lead the entire league in assists(and assists were much harder to get back then) so can you stop spreading misinformation and hating on Kobe Bryant??

[@MPHswayze]

@@BeerAndJointsAllDay fake

[@JohnDoe-ky5uo]

LBJ is my goat and plenty of other all time greats’ goat as well

[@bobbymoore2076]

He's not the global goat, that's mj

[@JohnDoe-ky5uo]

@@bobbymoore2076 everyone knows lbj beat better competition and has better stats

[@penkima4923]

@@JohnDoe-ky5uo What you mean everyone knows? If you hear some agenda being pushed on ESPN, it's probably not true, and on this channel everyone but you knows that.

[@Sf75178]

@@JohnDoe-ky5uo the whole play-offs count not just the finals

[@jantaramiyongsuntriyapas2570]

LBJ is the GOAT. But I don't mind hearing other opinions as long as it's logical.

[@AdLast]

Now your just starting a bill Russel fanpage

[@DARTH-KTULU]

GOTE (greatest of their era)

[@ssv7033]

I honestly wish you’d shrink your intro to 3 seconds or less in some videos. Keep the essence of your them but lose the annoying jingle. Bear with me here, you post constantly. For some of us that watch your videos constantly, and indifferent to your intro theme; find it off putting to listen to it every single damn time.

[@johnnelson1251]

LBJ the true goat. 4 systems 4 teams 3 cities with a championship. Never seen anyone win with multiple coaches systems teammates fan bases and criticism coming their way. And also average a triple double almost. Before anyone says what about the mavs series I always say I don't know what happened and since I don't I won't act like I do and he didn't want to compete. Even if it was true he still did what he did. It doesn't change what he accomplished. So yeah I never saw mj do that. Just win in the same place with the same team same coach same systems... could mj have won on a team without scottie and Phil and Rodman? Guess we will never know. All my lbj fans don't let ppl undermine LeBron with weak arguments. Remember the NBA is 5v5 and when our TEAM wins we feel great... LeBron did that 4 times for people. Jordan did it 6 times for one fan base and now everyone acts like the bulls were their favorite team and stoll is lol. Trshcans...

[@johnnelson1251]

Until I see someone anyone approach the topic of systems coaches and impact players with objectively I will always believe lbj the goat. Tell me how winning for multiple fanbases over multiple years with different teams coaches and systems is not more important to the game of basketball than what Jordan did? That's what makes him the goat. It's a quality over quantity argument for me. Also pls stop disrespecting other great teams and players because you hate lbj. The Knicks with Jon starks and Ewing cant compete with the big three Celtics. The warriors with kd did win 70 plus games. The team b4 that was ridiculous too lol. Now all of a sudden the jazz would beat them? How? What rules we using? Whis guarding who and who is more of a superstar or unstoppable force? We really gonna act like Stephen and klay aren't goats of shooting? Man it's messed up how ppl diss these guys when they are so great. Screw the 90s apologists.

[@MoreHipThanHop]

I think it’s hard for people to accept that Lebron and Jordan both have a legitimate claim for the number 1 spot. Nobody dominated the sport like Jordan and nobody displays talent and efficiency like Lebron. Both of them have earned their right to be called the greatest

[@TinyCat1015]

For real, no reason for it to be so rough all the time. Let's just appreciate greatness and in my opinion they are the two greatest players of all time

[@strmshadow8411]

Meh, people don't like it because Lebron has basically took a shortcut (cheated) on his way to the top. I can assure you, if Bron didn't constantly meddle in team building/player stealing his resume wouldn't be what it is.

[@TinyCat1015]

@@strmshadow8411 there is no cheating in basketball lmao

[@strmshadow8411]

@@TinyCat1015 I mean that's factually untrue. If someone is constantly getting with carrying/travelling while playing, you wouldn't consider that cheating? And that's just for example for non pro games. If you want to say say teaming up with your comp as not cheating, by all means. Either way you put it, he took a shortcut to greatness, he cheated the game. However you want to say it 🤷🏿‍♂️.

[@TinyCat1015]

@@strmshadow8411 No I wouldn’t consider it cheating, I’d consider it bad refereeing. And second, he left because Cleveland refused to give him any help. He brought them to the finals with Mo Williams, while Jordan didn’t have a winning season until Pippen came. Those are not the same. Either way he came back to Cleveland and won, just because he went to four different teams doesn’t mean he takes short cuts, dude won the hardest finals of all time in 2016

[@AquariusLeviathanProphecy]

I believe MJ sold he's soul to be Famous, people Wake up 😢😢😢the world is different than the Norm

[@nomercyinc6783]

multiple people cant be the greatest of all time in the same sport. GREATEST of all time means the best ONE. not the best group. journalists takes are trash