The best controller you NEED to try in 2023

[@bloodmarth]

You see Nihongo, you are actually right. The micro is practically invisible because it’s always sold out 😅

[@ARMediaOfficial]

It’s in stock right now for switch/pc

[@bloodmarth]

@@ARMediaOfficial not the ps5 version 😭

[@GeeMTeaa]

@@bloodmarth You missed the window for July by about 4 days. I ordered it as soon as I saw it was in.

[@joeyariesnova]

the "get into fighting games" edition is the ps5 compatible one and it's still showing dates available

[@MrKynzer]

​@@joeyariesnovais pretty much the same as the 2023 one?

[@markuzbarlan]

Why are they sending these for review when it’s always sold out anyways. :/

[@RandazzoOcarina]

For real I have been wanting to get one for a while now.

[@ARMediaOfficial]

It’s in stock for pc/switch

[@ARMediaOfficial]

And ps5 restock is sat at 12 EST. Same as last week

[@cosmogang]

These companies never have stock when I check.

[@KiingKai91]

They were in stock like.. 28 days ago. I bought mine literally 2 days after Combo Breaker and said it was going to ship out the 26th, but it's coming in tomorrow!

[@thetruejerrycan]

This seems like the perfect controller to play with Street Fighter 6. Both the game and the new Snack Box Micro are very thoughtfully constructed, it's amazing that we live in a time where the consumer is considered this much by both a AAA game studio and a mom and pop store In addition, your controller reviews have gotten so much better. You just went really in-depth with this one without wasting any time. Great video as usual!

[@Lolo.13]

Perfect for you....

[@sakuramoon3259]

Im gonna be real with you. If a beginner wants a controller like this and sees the price. Thats where the interest ends.

[@le0nz]

A poor beginning you mean

[@chucktownattack]

Other brand offerings like Sehawei are perfect for that niche, try leverless and get a Brook adapter which you'll need going forward pretty much no matter what.

[@aidilnizs7125]

No? there’s always other alternatives. Get Haute42.

[@SwagaTron-qq4lq]

There are some cheaper leaverless controllers that are good on Amazon for like $60

[@aidilnizs7125]

@@sakuramoon3259 lmao you can always just check other products that are cheaper . I got mine for less than $80

[@ItsJayCross319]

I absolutely love my Micro. I’m local to JFA in Atlanta, and they support the local FGC and are great to work with when anything goes wrong with their products. Great people, great products, great service.

[@Kojo02]

I switched from the original Hitbox to the SnackBox Micro XL earlier this month. Best arcade “stick” out for sure. And since it’s PS5 compatible, it makes that much more better!!

[@onizagru]

I love the concept of these controllers. I have peripheral neuropathy, so moving my hands around like you'd have to on a game pad or joystick is a no-go for me. This controller lets me enjoy fighting games again.

[@raidenout1515]

You are the reason that I found the snackbox company in the first place seems like it’s been about a year or more and I keep going in periodically to find the current availability. I used to live in Georgia, but have recently moved to Alabama not far from the gulf. I’m pleased to say that earlier this week I was able to order one from their site. Unfortunately it wasn’t the woolie one. It was in between the micro and the new two player control panel for my Taito Vewlix. I guess that Vewlix is going to have to wait till I can get around to my street fighter six rebuild of the cabinet. Keep up the good work and thanks for being there.

[@mysteriousfleas]

I feel like I was very ahead of the curve on this, back in the late 90s and early 00s I used to play neo geo fighting games on an emulator with a keyboard. I actually preferred it greatly to a controller especially samurai shodown 4, doing the moves was so much more crisp and responsive.

[@T16skyhopp]

would love a slightly thicker version that uses regular keyswitches. just so much more variety than low-profile.

[@DryBonesRx]

That’s

[@QwertYuiop-yt3uh]

Consider the M-press. It's pretty thin but it also takes up a much larger area than the snackbox

[@minedad]

I just checked and MX switches fit.

[@libertyprime9307]

Honestly why would you even want regular height switches? You want low actuation distance for gaming generally, but especially for fighting games. There's a reason Sanwas actuate at like 0.8mm. Only for typing do you want a standard 4mm throw.

[@T16skyhopp]

@@libertyprime9307 Just variety and i have a lot from keyboard hobby stuff. I now have a snackbox micro and a mpress so im good on both ends.

[@dpacc88]

Pretty sure Nihongo could supply the fgc better than these companies at this stage with the amount of products he gets sent.

[@Lolo.13]

Yes if it continues, he may be able to pass a first qualifying round in a local tournament 😅

[@haroldtorres2710]

I love that it's sold out! Very Reliable!

[@italian316]

I think the only bad thing about SnackBox is the long waiting for shipping and almost every snackbox accessories is sold out

[@Micheal-l6e]

Got mine in a week

[@itsjimbro]

the only bad thing is I have been wanting one for a month but they are sold out and no matter whenever i check their twitter there is no news of whenever it will restock so i am stuck checking twitter every morning and website to see if it is even possible to buy the controller I want. The stock is one of the biggest down sides IMO as it should be accessible to buy because i don't wanna buy a cheaper worse box style controller for like $100 and then buy the one i want i just wanna buy the snack box micro and its annoying as hell.

[@CatwhiskerPurr]

@@itsjimbro thats because greedy people bought more than they need so they can resell it for profit...

[@Lolo.13]

@@CatwhiskerPurr Or because it's a fad and everyone wants one

[@iceflake6179]

I love the idea of a small portable buttonbox controller but I hate the microscopic buttons at the top. There must of been a better way to make buttons not small and pointy.

[@QwertYuiop-yt3uh]

Probably had to compromise in order to accommodate all the buttons and keep the controller as small as it is. A slightly thicker and much larger area option (to accommodate full size extra buttons) is the Mpress controller. However, like the snackbox, it's often out of stock...

[@NihongoGamer]

They could've changed the button size for the control panel but they chose to keep the art case compatible with older PCBs which is nice so anyone who bought a Micro before can still upgrade easily

[@pennydox]

I would like to get an official snackbox micro one day, but for now I have transitioned from using an arcade stick to an ergonomic keyboard that helps me position my hands differently, and I have not had carpal tunnel since the launch of SF6, so I just wanted to say that leverless controllers are definitely a great option for people with carpal tunnel or tendonitis issues. Also, with my tiny hands, I prefer smaller controllers with smaller buttons in general. I can't actually reach all the punch/kick buttons when they're all 30mm in size, and I have to shift my wrist left and right, but I don't have that issue anymore.

[@0o0sean0o0SPC]

Damn the stick gave you carpal tunnel??? That's ruthless.. I felt ware on my arms just from trying to master wave dashing from P1 side on my arcade stick lol

[@pennydox]

​@@0o0sean0o0SPC I think it's partially because my hands are small, and I have to strain my ring finger and pinky a lot more for the HP HK buttons. I can't reach the fourth buttons next to those without shifting my wrist slightly, it's super frustrating.

[@TwistedSoul2002]

Haha- you sounded like Moss, (Richard Ayoade) from the IT crowd in that skit at the start of the vid! 😂😂😂

[@QwertYuiop-yt3uh]

I got so lucky to get an order in for the 2023 micro with art case earlier this month for the week of June 26th. Very excited for this. These controllers are really in demand because I sometimes check the site to see if convex buttons are in stock (they never are) and the micro hasn't been in stock for a while. Hopefully it comes back soon and hopefully they also restock on the heavy metal plates and buttons lol, most things are always out of stock on their site but it makes sense now that they are getting so popular it can be hard to keep up with demand.

[@pablonunez2212]

I did too but I ordered the all black ...was able to get a set of convex red buttons as well 😅 but sadly still waiting for them to restock the heavy metal plate . Don't know yet if I'm gonna change all the buttons to red or just the directional buttons hmmm . I literally just got an email saying they shipped my package w a tracking number....can't wait !

[@knightsabre2k]

I actually find the new buttons are not as good as the old ones. I prefer the rough surface of the old buttons rather than the smooth new ones. Other than that, usb-c is a godsend!!! But I do find that holding the snackbox too close to my body actually hurts me after playing for a while as I have to twist my wrists a little to hold the buttons correctly & that added stress, albeit little, is enough to cause discomfort after a coupe of hrs of play.

[@NihongoGamer]

I can kinda see that yeah. The texture of the original buttons is quite nice. I feel the scooped concave shape of the buttons more with the new ones but it'd be cool if they sold the old buttons as an option

[@raf_the_riffer]

The best part is feeling like a T-Rex when you put the micro as close to your body as possible. Love my snackbox, lol.

[@sirchessic]

The beginning of this gave me serious IT crowd vibes and I loved it.

[@nikroth]

Very well structured and edited review ! GG

[@brightsuperstition]

I wish companies like Hitbox and Junkfood Custom Arcades would make all-button controllers with traditional "WASD" layouts for the directional inputs. Because no matter how hard I try, I can't seem to get my muscle memory used to having the Up button be on the bottom. I'm used to a lifetime of playing PC games on mouse and keyboard with the W, A, S and D keys for movement. I'd love to have one of these well-designed controllers but with a WASD layout. It would be great not just for fighting games, but also for arcade games like shmups and beat-em-ups.

[@meteor74]

try a mixbox

[@ArchieGamez]

Mixbox might be your thing but i get what you say

[@howlingsparrow2997]

Junk food arcade announced a mic box recently.

[@Bageer1]

Most pc games have 'space' as 'jump', which is the same as 'up' usage in fighting games and is the analog of hitbox button placement. 'w' is normally forward unless you only play 2d games then it is sometimes jump or up which are sometimes distinguished too(lots of 2d games don't use 'w' for jump either). Do you have a hard time jumping in 3d games?

[@cerberus3491]

265$ absolutely insane. I’d love to get into fighting games but I’m not spending anywhere near that much for a fight pad. You might be able to sell me this for 80$.

[@GarbageDayProductions]

this guy has a good upload on how to make a hitbox-style controller for cheap. theres several budget options out there, this option is more of an enthusiast purchase

[@boss862]

Super glad to get my XL Snackbox controller here at the end of September. I have tried 5 different controllers but I think this one is gonna elevate my gameplay just a bit more for fighting games.

[@ItsInsane21]

This feeling of uncertainty and nervousness I have must be the same feeling others have when thinking about going from a controller to using an arcade stick. It's hard to wrap my head around using buttons with my fingertips for directional inputs. Just because I know I won't be able to translate what I want to do when I first start using one, and I'll be worse at the beginning because it's a whole new way of playing. I never got used to playing with a stick on my lap, so I used a makeshift table to be between my legs to put the stick on. However, it's cumbersome to pull all that out and my special chair just to play for a bit. So I've been using a controller to play Street Fighter 6. Even though I'm worse and have way more mis-inputs when using a controller, it's just easier and more comfortable to play with a controller because I can lay back. Would like to try one of these out one day and try to get used to it. Seems really convenient, and with how it's designed, it seems like I'd still feel like I'm playing on an arcade stick. Because I would just be changing what I use with my left hand and still have that typewriter feel of hitting the buttons on the right.

[@amirrelevant155]

My snackbox constantly disconnected and eventually the usb broke so I pray nobody else gets this issue

[@jk8190]

Any review of Haute42 T16? :)

[@bacon5481]

2:49 I was dying at this for a good 2 minutes, great video as always, im hoping they make an XL with art case, but I might cave in and get the micro art case

[@doczombiez]

Using this controller for the last 3 months now after buying it. Gotta say the snackbox is the best form of leverless controller i've seen and used

[@sethusk]

You're really great at making and editing videos. Quite enjoyable to watch.

[@ARMediaOfficial]

Note: these are in stock for the PC/Switch model for $165 and ships right away. I see a lot of comments below about always being sold out and want to make sure others are aware, as I ordered friday and already received mine and have been loving it!

[@dxbrasky]

It's sold out...

[@pablonunez2212]

Bro nobody wants a just pc/switch one.....stop lol

[@ARMediaOfficial]

@@pablonunez2212I did lol I play on pc and save $100

[@ARMediaOfficial]

Oh well sold out now

[@barbedwings]

It's definitely the best controller on the market, but they are so flooded with orders, the wait time is really extreme. I have two of them (original art case and new PS5 PCB) and I think its a great purchase if you can wait through their pre-order times.

[@doubleHLabs]

are these any good for non fighting games?

[@Xizax41325]

As someone that learned to play fighter emulating the dbz snes games on a pc, hitboxes are always going to feel better to me than pads and joysticks.

[@phommarath]

Mine should be shipping out next week, hopefully . I’m excited!

[@shp-bk6lm]

Ridiculous how much they charge for these. It’s essentially just 10 switches worth $10, a plastic container, and a $5 pcb from aliexpress

[@keangutierrez3655]

Is it good to control submarines?

[@NihongoGamer]

Let’s just say you’re likely to miss inputs

[@KeitrenGraves]

I've been wanting to get one of these but they are always sold out and a bit pricey. So I'm actually building a flat box so that I can get all of the benefits

[@Duvoncho]

Would love one but it's just so flipping loud! So few options for those of us who want quiet inputs. My only hope really is to build my own with Sanwa OBSFEs, which is exactly what my current project is. Great guides on self building too btw! 😉💪

[@theelusivememe1772]

I love my snackbox XL. Hope they make an artwork case for the XL someday. Hated having to replace my dpad every 3 to 6 months, arcade sticks give me major wrist pain, snackbox saved my wrists and allowed me to keep playing fighting games.

[@nougatpersonal]

I BEEN WANTING THIS SINCE THE FIRST REVIEWS FROM BACK IN THE DAY! I DONT EVEN PLAY FIGHTING GAMES THAT WELL

[@_MJ07_]

I’d love to get into fighting games and try this out, but the price is pretty ridiculous imo.

[@Nyanzaburou]

Regular gamepads are perfectly fine for playing fighting games. Boxes like these are enthusiast products. Buying one before getting into fighting games is putting the cart before the horse.

[@حمزة-ف1ج]

Just start playing with whatever you have, I started playing on pc on my keyboard and its completely fine, so either a keyboard on a pc or a pad on a console is ok just like the guy said above Just start playing!

[@raidenout1515]

Yeah, I would like to pick up one before and I just couldn’t find them in stock and there’s always a back order

[@codysmith1534]

L3 and R3 should be on the bottom on either side of the middle button so you can quickly access them with your thumbs. In my opinion that would be optimal placement, like having 3 space bars. Left middle and right.

[@NihongoGamer]

I hope they’ll do a layout like that soon. That style of layout became popular after SF6 launched so I guess we’ll just have to wait and see what JFA comes up with

[@paulsr.1090]

You can already see the switch caps pushing in at odd angles, won't take long for them to break and not hold.

[@mosesh06]

Still sold out

[@wmv8996]

I haven't had a fight stick of any kind before. I preordered the 8bitdo one for pc/xbox. Watching your videos has gotten me to pick one up for kof tekken and sf.

[@999Lucas]

My setup is tuned but not completely jank or oldschool. I use sanwa sticks with shorth throw bushings and bat levers with sanwa short travel buttons. Its a little touchy, but I prefer response to slop and play. Im not sure I can bring myself to use one of these boxes with a perfectly good keyboard right in front of me.. Maybe one day, but im still having fun.

[@loopseeker]

i got mine in the mail a couple of days after sf6 came out and i love this thing really

[@RagingFuryMC]

These micros are very nice. Waiting for my artcase and PS5 pcb to arrive soon. I even made a Persona 3 Reloaded artwork to go with it!

[@ROTINPIECES]

i actually refuse to believe this video isnt sponsored

[@HapZungLam]

Nihongo's bedroom will soon become an arcade sticks museum.

[@nekogami87]

For people who have extra MX-cherry like switches and/or who couldn't order the snackbox micro, Fightbox B1-MINI is really nice too, it is slightly thicker and wider though. but it was a nice way to use my remaining keyboard switches :D.

[@Aranarth78]

Thank you for bringing the Fightbox to my attention ! I just ordered a B1. Finally an affordable lever-less controller !

[@nekogami87]

@@Aranarth78 you're welcome! If you bought the one with MX switch, just be careful with the caps, some of them were a little bit loose on the switches I swapped to. But just put a little bit of tissue flat on top of the switches when putting the caps. And you are good to go.

[@droogeydroogey8950]

i wish these leverless controllers would move away from the 2x4 action button setup. I don't think a lot of people use the 2 "pinky" buttons. Having them repositioned around index and middle fingers would remove the need for lateral movement and realigning the right hand. It would make them much more accessible and easier to utilize, I think.

[@itsu450]

Really enjoyed the IT crowd style skit at the start! Great content as always

[@noob4head]

Are there any budget options for something like this. I don't really wanna spend 250-300 euro on a controller but I wanna get more into fighting games. I'm not the biggest fan of playing on pad so I wanna get something like this but all of them are so expensive.

[@NihongoGamer]

If you play on PC you can use a regular keyboard to get used to the thumb jump layout

[@FirstAidKitMe]

I'm not even joking got mine a few days ago and it is amazing! The best controller i'v ever used for fighting games.

[@Ninwing]

Would you look into the Slab Mini or Bentobox? I'm interested in how they stack up as alternatives to the Snack box micro

[@OneLastYou]

I JUST realized that the intro is using a funny little version of new soul by yael naim! :D Macbook Air commercial nice!

[@drallersouldust3054]

Other people like me still can't give up the joy of arcade stickyou just gotta move faster , the only sad part is that the opponent can see and hear your lever lever move

[@Plantbased010]

Glad I was able to get one ordered while they were in stock. Going to be awhile before actually receiving it but It's definitely something to look forward to.

[@realmakebelieve]

Have you ever seen one of the original Street Fight 1 Arcade Controller Panel, You had to punch big punch and kick pad . depending on how hard you hit it would be Jab or Fierce , It was broken in 2 weeks then changed to buttons at my local by Arcade. Not sure if this was a prototype or on all SF1 Arcade Releases.

[@ScorpionF1RE_USA]

Wish the buttons were either bigger or closer together for finger slidies. Also wish there were 3 thumb buttons (which included L3 and R3)

[@YoungMachette]

Playing everything they're was at the EVO floor. The snack box outshined every other controller. Even the hit box, and the razer.

[@gojtron]

Have this new board, works well. Been debating buying the XL case and new buttons to make a regular.

[@OriginalRockCandy]

I'm tempted to get this, reason why is because when i use the dpad on my ps5 controller, i tend to press a bit too hard and cause blisters or injury to my thumb. Part of me is hoping that this would be a potential solution. I tried an arcade stick but i can't seem to get used to it. Thanks for the review!

[@valentinav.5868]

Got the XL one a few months ago because I knew they'd be sold out with SF6 and Tekken 8 coming out, do not regret!

[@Keeby.]

There could be some more buttons on the controller, especially a button to the left if the left movement button, but ive got one of these and its good If i was to get a bigger one id get one with l3 and r3 as regular buttons rather then menu buttons and have the left and right hands separated abit more

[@HelloGamingForYou]

My favorite is the victrix hitbox. I tend to play with it on my lap so the weight keeps it balanced and doesn’t move, also the quality is amazing.

[@ZerkerXror]

Which one of these is ideal to get if you have rather small hands? The normal one or is the XL still a good choice if your hands are small?

[@kevind7749]

top notch acting for the intro 10/10

[@jjrilla___2664]

This and the mpress are always out of stock. I think I prefer the mpress as it’s a bit bigger. But due to stock issues and shipping costs to UK I might have to make do with a fightbox B1 with UFB-UP5. If I can get hold of a wingman FGC then I have more options but those are out of stock everywhere as well.

[@LamS_7]

Hello ! Is this product for left-handers? Is that the arrows of direction are on the right?

[@14zrobot]

10:55 There are a bunch of Japanese controllers that have extra r buttons by the right thumb and above x/y look really convenient

[@cybersosis]

same reason i play fighting games on keyboard. precise directional buttons. if i press left it goes left no accidental joystick angles

[@Shan0a]

Bought this one back in late March and I haven't regretted it. It feels amazingly good to play with. Now I just need to commission me some art for it...

[@SquallL47]

would you recommend this for beginners and/or tekken 8?

[@Wobble2007]

Hands down, the best gamepad I have ever found is my Versus Fighter Pad, it has a full-fat micro-switch Neo-Geo gamepad style joystick that goes in like 16 directions and feels amazing for tons of games, be it shmups, platformers, top down racers, fighting games and so on and on, even the Sega MD/GEN controllers D-Pad can't compete with it, it feels just so good to use, also has 6 large arcade style micro-switch (mechanical) main buttons and nice clicky shoulder triggers, it's the perfect pad for using with RetroArch.

[@patrickdegroot2146]

Hmm interesting, I wonder how well if performs compared to the new 8Bitdo Neo Geo gamepad with microswitches (for the D pad)

[@Wobble2007]

@@patrickdegroot2146 It's a lot to live up to, I know that much.

[@alfblack2]

I love it! I want one. Didnt know the micro 1 was a thing. Dang it, sold out already

[@TheNets]

In the end, people playing on a computer keyboard were the right ones. I imagine the amount of people who will start to do speedrun of platform games and other game genders using this box controller type.

[@ThisOrThat13]

5:51 look at all of those Panthera Evo sticks! I can't even find one online without a price tag of $300+ on ebay.

[@Rayhaku808]

I just ordered the Lite after this video cause it’s the only one in stock lmao. Every other time I check they’re all sold out

[@TrevHolland]

Are there any snack box micro sized controllers that use the larger 30mm action buttons? I'm okay with smaller movement buttons but the smaller action buttons mess with my muscle memory.

[@znallaer]

4:44 "Finding a good pad one is much harder than, Finding a good arcade stick. And even if you do manage to find one that you like, most of them are built with conductive rubber which eventually wears down leaving you with little choice but to Simply buy a whole new pad." - SOOO TRUE, not me struggling with the DS4 Pad. Its nearly perfect, I just hate when they use a conductive rubber, which wears down easily. As a fighting game player; TEKKEN (Specifically) DPADs that uses a conductive rubber is not ideal for daily use, especially on intense gameplay in fighting games.

[@gsomv]

People will be like: Playing fighting games on the keyboard is atrocious, use a controller instead. Playing with a controller is unauthentic, play with a fightstick instead. Fightstics are outdated, you know what you should use? A KEYBOARD!

[@MMSR_Reds]

I ordered mine last week. I can't wait

[@OrchidEleven]

you are effortlessly good at the skits man keep it up!!!

[@endlerguppy3500]

woah you start to do god tier editting xD

[@PeeGeeThirteen]

Thanks for the update! I may get one for ergonomics

[@vexzel5550]

i dont know why youtube keeps unsubscribing me from youtube channels? This was a great video Nihongo.

[@NihongoGamer]

Welcome back :)

[@Mark-sz7nd]

Got mine arriving next week!!

[@EnaTenkiyoGamer]

What a marvelous joystick arcade! ❤😍

[@yogynuts]

Awesome review im sold im a new fighter playing mostly xrd and trying to get into tekken. And just struggle with making accurate movements with my analog stick

[@yoshi4678]

What do you think of RAZER KITSUNE? Will there be a review?

[@dzheison10]

Whats the buttons diameter? 24mm?

[@edxlee]

Just "invested" in the heavy metal plate and some new caps bc I love my snackbox so much! Now just need to figure out how to get the artwork I want printed/cut..

[@privateprivate31337]

As someone who can't use a joystick at all, but rocks using a keyboard these are perfect controllers.

[@kursna]

Just got the micro lite. Great value since I only play on pc and looks like tons of stock. Excited to try leverless

[@ripopz3881]

I bought one in March. Love it, BUT I have my concerns. I still don't really know how durable it is if i mash buttons or just press slightly stronger. Plus the top gets scratched extremely easily, which is a shame. Apart from that, it's an amazing product.

[@ARMediaOfficial]

switch wise very durable and its hotswap so worse comes to worse you swap out one of the switches (usually they are $.50 a piece or less). These use the same buttons as a low profile mechanical keyboard, meaning they are meant to be smashed and having millions upon millions of keystrokes. Hot swap makes it so you don't even have to worry about that and can try multiple different types of switches. Awesome concept imo and love my snackbox

[@QwertYuiop-yt3uh]

@ARMediaOfficial you can just swap out the switches but idk if the PCB might get damaged over time. I don't think so and I've never heard of anyone breaking the PCB tho so idk

[@CasualGamerThrai]

I have the Snackbox, I get skipped input allllll the time due. For example if you're from blocking direction (1) and try to do fireball motion (236) really fast, often you let go of (1) and push (3) at the same frame skipping (2). The down button being higher than the left and right with jump at the bottom took forever to get used it, hurts your brain. I would love to try a mix box but it's ridiculously priced, may as well just play on keyboard.