A Vintage Cube draft on MTGO! I'll be uploading new videos every day at 12PM Pacific time during the vintage cube :)
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@MaxMckayful5 жыл бұрын
"People always comment like oh no, you could have taken this card and drafted this deck it's like yeah but I didn't" - Caleb G. Savage. In seriousness though, I really appreciate the concept that you can try to win while also having fun. For me, it it's hard not to fall into the trap of pressuring myself into perfect gameplay to the point of it being a massive burden. And games aren't just competition, they're entertainment. One of the reasons I love this channel is watching the "fun matters" archtypes, and it's a good reminder that games can exist just to be fun.
@MaxMckayful5 жыл бұрын
Also, Caleb always does a great job highlighting when he's not going for "best play" and instead doing "fun play". And, in defense of chat/comments, it is kinda human nature to point out the "oh, what might have been" lane even while understanding why that wasn't pursued. Humans love pointing out the obvious, we're weird like that.
@CalebGannon5 жыл бұрын
Thanks MaxMckayful! :) I'm glad to hear that I'm helping you have a bit more fun with your games :) also I tend to find the fun line actually wins more anyway lol but maybe thats just luck
@stephenlofton54034 жыл бұрын
The thing about that is that most people aren’t like “oh no you should have done this instead” but rather more like “hey I saw this here’s what I would have done” to try to engage discussion/debate. At least for me anyway lol
@benjaminlipman44365 жыл бұрын
You've been murdering people with memory jar non stop since this iteration of the cube started. And going sphinx, draw seven, draw an additional 14 was absolutely filthy.
@CalebGannon5 жыл бұрын
Yeah memory jar + brain freeze is a serious combo lol, you barely need any storm to go off like that and it can beat eldrazi/blightsteel
@Rorschachqp5 жыл бұрын
It is like the incomplete Death Star and you're like Emperor Palpatine. *Caleb durdles around with the deck with a couple islands, eggs and a mountain* "Now witness the firepower of this fully ARMED and OPERATIONAL battle station!" Banefires you for 24. The only other thing the deck needs is a Channel. I call this deck "CPI" or "Commence Primary Ignition"
@CalebGannon5 жыл бұрын
haha I wish I could heart this comment twice ^__^
@jebooiii64625 жыл бұрын
44:54 Welcome to vintague cube, where a 0 mana draw 2 is not that good :p
@mrknarf44385 жыл бұрын
Technically it's a zero mana use two cards to draw three, so just a +1. Compared to Brainstorm+fetch, it's better since the cards go to the gy and it costs one less mana, but it's worse since you "discard" first and draw second, over the course of three turns. Not that insane.
@rastrisfrustreslosgomez5445 жыл бұрын
Draw 3 actually
@casucasueq44795 жыл бұрын
lotus+jace = ghetto ancestral.
@jebooiii64625 жыл бұрын
@@mrknarf4438 Yeah of course, I mean the play was meh. But I just loved what Caleb said there :p
@hans2020085 жыл бұрын
I love how each cube deck you draft is the best deck you have ever drafted. :) really enjoying the video's Caleb, thank you!
@CalebGannon5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I've been having a really hard time not titling all my videos best deck ever because they're all so exciting haha :)
@christianhass53755 жыл бұрын
Best MTGO channel period 💚
@CalebGannon5 жыл бұрын
@stuckupcurlyguy5 жыл бұрын
So true
@theo64265 жыл бұрын
lol how do all your vintage cube drafts become “massive mana ramp time spiral hi tides lions eye diamond”
@CalebGannon5 жыл бұрын
because nobody seems to take those cards for some reason lol.
@carlosspencer53695 жыл бұрын
Every time I thought a play was correct you proved me wrong, you are insanely good and see lines of play that are so subtle it blows my mind like your opponent attacking into Sphinx with V Clique anticipating the mana doublers next turn. That draft was absolutely nuts, I would kill to wheel probe and ponder. Awesome video dude, you rule.
@CalebGannon5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Carlos! X)
@aslanpatience82783 жыл бұрын
"A good storm deck is better than a good white weenie deck but white weenie will beat the storm almost every time" These quotes are awesome I love it
@OdePery5 жыл бұрын
I just love watching you play insane storm decks :D
@TBlastar5 жыл бұрын
I feel like I've been watching the same draft for the past couple of videos I'm not complaining, having a blast! Keep it up Caleb!
@CalebGannon5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, people keep passing frantic search memory jar and I'll keep taking it haha :)
@jarphanther66075 жыл бұрын
Remeber when gannon prioritised signets
@CalebGannon5 жыл бұрын
I still do! but I think I valued them a bit too highly haha
@VAunderlineI5 жыл бұрын
Quote from Caleb: „A zero mana, draw two“ is not particularly good. That is probably even better than ancestral recall 😂 hahaha ...Nice deck and well navigated, I really appreciate your content
@davidwillis79914 жыл бұрын
It's better than ancestral if it's immediate and repeatable. It's much worse that ancestral in practise. Also turn 1 black lotus can cast dozens of cards that dominate the game. everyone is relieved if all it enables is Jace Beleren
@jacefairis12894 жыл бұрын
I love how you took a potshot with the brainfreeze, and then when they had a Blightsteel you just death star cannon'd them instead
@Funkytrip735 жыл бұрын
First game, you could have simply got rid of the SM with Fire instead of gamblin with Ice. You saw his hand...he wouldnt have been able to turn on the fast clock with the SoF&I. I'm sure you would have won that game.
@richardlawrence42135 жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing us how it's done. 👍
@CalebGannon5 жыл бұрын
no problemo :)
@brendanmorales45045 жыл бұрын
I'm confused: you say you cut Ancient Tomb because you want more Islands, but Ancient Tomb taps for 2 mana ALL the time, whereas an Island would only tap for two mana SOME of the time. Do you really need the extra blue that bad?
@arobot74265 жыл бұрын
Yes, because there are lots of instances where either the two life matters or colorless mana can't cast your high tide or something. But ancient tomb isnt bad or anything, i just think that's probably his reasoning
@suckmeoffitis5 жыл бұрын
boarding it in is an option, theres not a lot of cost to it in postboard games
@CalebGannon5 жыл бұрын
Basically what Aro Bot said, its about consistency. We're not going to go off without a mana doubler, so ancient tomb and an island will generally add the same amount of mana. If you're going to tap a land for mana, frantic search, turnabout then time spiral with an ancient tomb you've just done 8 damage to yourself so the cost is very real for a marginal gain (basically it helps us cast mana flare for 1 less land).
@brendanmorales45045 жыл бұрын
So it's not really about "fast" mana; rather, "big combo" mana. With that in mind, Ancient Tomb doesn't really do anything for you that an Island wouldn't. Makes sense!
@casucasueq44795 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this one. Passed on drafting the tendrils and went blue red freeze/bane.
@jonathanlevy85694 жыл бұрын
Fascinating... You didnt even cut blue really?! So, I think there were some obvious moments in the draft when a clutch card came right on time (hightide, brainstorm, saphire) or when a key direction was picked on your storm intuition (frantic search, mana flare) but for me, this deck became a deathstar juggernaut because you somehow wheeled 1 gitaxian probe, 2 ponder, 3 treasure cruise, and negate!!!! And you were like meh. Cards. Click.
@ironocy4965 жыл бұрын
You've earned my subscription friend! Love the content.
@umbrunoqualquer5 жыл бұрын
God I love your content so much! If I could ask one thing from you, is that you feature either Commander gameplay (1v1 or multiplayer) given the format is basically Vintage Singleton.
@CalebGannon5 жыл бұрын
Thanks :) and I definitely want to but the mtgo interface is kinda.... horrible. I'll send out a poll to see if people would be interested.
@negus88105 жыл бұрын
wow this draft was amazing
@CalebGannon5 жыл бұрын
Thanks ^__^
@kiersmith11154 жыл бұрын
6:46 Kaya transforms into Silverblade Paladin
@aethertech4 жыл бұрын
Not playing around mana tithe at 32:15 hurt me. Even though I know Banefire can't be countered.
@yawgmoth65684 жыл бұрын
Thought this draft was pretty perfect up until Chrome Mox. I really question taking that over probe. Probe builds storm cheap, is blue for Force of Will, lets you see if the cost is clear, and doesn't cost mana to cast. It is literally nuts in this deck. Chrome Mox 2 for 1's you in a deck where you need your resources. It's bad here imo. Luckily probe wheeled though. Baral I think is a bit overrated and I would've given Time Warp consideration but it's not as bad as passing Probe imo. Also unfortunate you took Misty over Miscalc then got a way better fetch (Delta) that would've helped you cast demonic tutor AND your red stuff. This wasn't a bad pick per se because you didn't know Delta was coming. Definitely ended up a sick draft and the few pick mistakes (mistakes imo but everything is arguable) didn't punish you since the stuff wheeled. Only thing you really missed was Palinchron for the easy storm win whenever you have High Tide + 6 islands (and ofc something like Yawgmoth's Will would've been sweet too).
@shammerHammer3 жыл бұрын
Walt how old is this draft? Scrying after a mull seems so long ago :D
@luciusbennet21205 жыл бұрын
Geez that's some high-tier degeneracy going on here. NOICE
@CatPartyNYC3 жыл бұрын
What's the art in the thumbnail to this video?
@pjm30054 жыл бұрын
thug life emeffer!
@lotusfrucht1113 жыл бұрын
What card is that video thumbnail?
@nickkersey67444 жыл бұрын
You passed gitaxian probe in a storm deck 😂
@kokonuts57495 жыл бұрын
19:20 Not that it matters here, but Storm Count at 8 actually mills 27 since it gets copied for each spell cast before it but there's still the original card. Just something to consider. Super sweet deck! ;)
@CalebGannon5 жыл бұрын
Ah right, haha math is hard sometimes :)
@gragrim5 жыл бұрын
Such a sweet deck!
@MaTtUR505 жыл бұрын
LSV would like to know your location
@stephenlofton54035 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand passing Tendrils for Mana Flare. I get if you’re going off and generating huge mana Banefire is legit but isn’t tendrils more consistent ? Also there is a stifle in the cube I believe the dissolve variant does it at 1UU.
@SmaugUKA5 жыл бұрын
The deck he was Drafting was closer to a TYS Storm deck as opposed to a traditional Tendrils based Storm deck. Not to mention Caleb was UR when Tendrils came around with very little B fixing. Flare was better suited for this specific deck, and that's coming from someone who absolutely loves Tendrils Storm. (My main deck in real life) I wouldn't blame you for picking Tendrils there, but in hindsight you saw how important Flare was overall during those Matches.
@andresabastante95395 жыл бұрын
2BB is hard to cast. It's even harder when black is not even justifiable in the first place. The best tutor in the game got cut for the same reason... and it's a much better card overall and way easier to splash.
@CalebGannon5 жыл бұрын
^ basically what they said. Tendrils is great but so hard to cast. And you saw how easy it was to generate enough mana for banefire, which being uncountable could actually just be better (tendrils can be hit by disallow as you mentioned)
@elbenardo27155 жыл бұрын
Nice
@JimButter105 жыл бұрын
How often you play these drafts? because iíf feels like most of them are insane.
@CalebGannon5 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what you're asking?
@JimButter105 жыл бұрын
@@CalebGannon well, i mean that if i see you draft, you very often have quite good deck. And while most of mtg youtubers would play 4 or 5 drafts to chose one and upload it, you also have a normal job. So it must mean you are pretty good at drafting? i tried to praise you basically but i guess my choice of words end up being lil bit dadaistic.
@CalebGannon5 жыл бұрын
Ah I gotcha :) yeah I upload all my drafts, my vintage cube win rate is something like 70-80% usually :p
@alanyuan85655 жыл бұрын
Technically the opponent did have an “eldeazi” in the form of emarkul the promised end
@Elninyo995 жыл бұрын
whats the cover art u are using for this video?
@CalebGannon5 жыл бұрын
MTGO only promo for time spiral :)
@johanneseverse51085 жыл бұрын
What is the thumbnail?
@CalebGannon5 жыл бұрын
time spiral
@johanneseverse51085 жыл бұрын
Ah, I never knew it had an alternate art!
@mrknarf44385 жыл бұрын
Being a paper player, I hadn't recognized it as well. Apparently it's an alternate art many cards got as promos for mtgo. I just can't understand why they didn't use those arts for all cube cards, instead of just some. Here you can have a look at those promos (and some are truly amazing, such as McKinnon's best pieces): scryfall.com/sets/prm
@CalebGannon5 жыл бұрын
I've been trying to find more obscure alternate arts so it doesn't spoil the draft outcome :p Also thanks for that link! I might use some of these arts in the future
@mrknarf44385 жыл бұрын
@@CalebGannon No problem man. You could also use art from other games/fantasy sources just to mess with people's heads :p Or use official Mtg art that hasn't been used for cards, but for stories, articles and such instead. Keep it up!
@xW0LFYx5 жыл бұрын
based
@blakeelawsonn5 жыл бұрын
I’ll be the judge
@blakeelawsonn5 жыл бұрын
I’m a sucker for storm and twin so this was pretty amazing. One of the best storm decks I’ve seen. There was one time like last Christmas though you drafted this white/black stax/tax kind of deck and it was brutal. I think it was draft 9 maybe. Or possibly 33. Shit was wild.
@CalebGannon5 жыл бұрын
Oh that might be the one where I went t1 strip mine to cast mana vault, play crucible of worlds. That was so gross lol
@abe10alpha5 жыл бұрын
Caleb Gannon And you passed up on thoughtseize accidentally. Was hilarious. That was the best deck ever!
@CalebGannon5 жыл бұрын
unfortunately that deck can't get free wins anymore because there is no black braids :( smokestack is just so much worse lol
@Brandonnn34 жыл бұрын
The best deck you ever drafted lost to t2 stoneforge. Yeah, I really miss cawblade in standard. NOTTTTTTTTTT