After the nerf to Sable, Hydra bob is in like all of the decks I want to play here and it's not been in spotlights since and isn't looking to put him in. I get why they wanted to nerf sable since she was a very good 1 drop, but I basically don't feel like I have a replaceable 1 drop anymore, and I have every 1 drop in the game except Bob. Guess I'm playing Ant-Man or Nico...
@RenStampede2 ай бұрын
Don't worry, by the time Bob is in a spotlight again, he'll be nerfed
@deansamuels57132 ай бұрын
I agree, I think it was great that sable was a generically good 1 drop but now she's more of an afflict bounce card only. I think nebula is the best generic 1 drop hydra bob replacement
@wispyone37022 ай бұрын
@ in a Maleketh build I use Ant-Man as a power replacement most of the time. Otherwise Nico & Iceman/Spider Ham as disruption has served me better than Neb
@6ftmouse3492 ай бұрын
Play Martr? It’s the same thing as Bob. Bob is at most 1% better than Martr
@wispyone37022 ай бұрын
@@6ftmouse349 That is a very funny joke. I have tried this before, and while Maleketh makes her seem appealing, anytime you draw and play Martyr it is miserable. Titania is a better 1/5 if you need the statline, which you shouldn’t, just play actually efficient 1’s like sable, antman, nico, or anything disruptive.
@TophTheMelonLord12 ай бұрын
I feel proud to be one of the anti venom believers, I really enjoy the card and pairing him with Malekith has lead to some pretty run decks!
@tuccrr2 ай бұрын
Totally agree with the Gwenpool > Surtur, especially with the hidden intel from your opponent
@jefffalco5872 ай бұрын
❤3❤
@swedishZ0mBi32 ай бұрын
Heeeey oooooh, Tuccrr here!
@waiting4gIory2 ай бұрын
Goat
@damianmorris96212 ай бұрын
Always listen to KM when he tells you a card is a good midrange card. Just a great heuristic
@smartpatrick86902 ай бұрын
Thanos Arishem based deck. You love to see it!!! It made the top of this list and 2nd of Alex Coccia's 🎉🤯😄😂😜
@JOSHJOSHJOSHJOSH2 ай бұрын
That Thanos/Arishem is laughable, but so ridiculously fun to play.
@Shuuuuuu-nx6xo2 ай бұрын
It has an insanely high win rate and cube rate tho
@billdemartini93242 ай бұрын
Laughable because it’s awesome
@JOSHJOSHJOSHJOSH2 ай бұрын
@@Shuuuuuu-nx6xo I meant laughable in appearance.
@nightbarongaming32372 ай бұрын
I've been having so much fun with it. It's my current favourite deck
@joseph20001172 ай бұрын
I give you kudos for sounding the alarm on anti-vemon
@autumnleaves79072 ай бұрын
thanks for pushing Anti Venom from day 1. History will absolve you.
@ArtanisFlow2 ай бұрын
If this game ever goes offline, there will be a private server somewhere that is exclusively destroy mirrors, bc they will never stop
@captainender40132 ай бұрын
Thanos Arishem might be the most fun I've ever had playing a deck in this game.
@ColHozeh2 ай бұрын
I just beat a variation of that move bounce deck in conquest, it's really strong. It made me agree with the silver sable nerf. Deck puts out serious and now very even power across all locations.
@kevinmorales29102 ай бұрын
Thank u brother. I got Anti Venom and Ajax because of your opinions 💪🏻
@AldenG222 ай бұрын
Let’s go! Been waiting for this vid. Looks like Darkhawk is coming back out👌🏼
@spincut132 ай бұрын
Curious about whether you at all feel Zabu and Psyloche for earlier rank in the anti venom pile beats out or compares to sable and Bob??
@orionbukantis64702 ай бұрын
The great thing about destroy, and the reason I keep playing it, is that as a free to play player that started playing after day 1, I can actually build the deck. It's the only deck on this list I can build. 🙃
@ColHozeh2 ай бұрын
Thanos Arishem huh, welp, waiting to see those 30 power Casanovas and 80 power Darkhawks. Heck might even see the biggest Ronan!
@WaitWhat-zw2in2 ай бұрын
Can't wait until Black Swan becomes terrible by the time I can get her in Spotlight Caches
@cheechp32092 ай бұрын
So true. Greedy devs smh
@jinchu99992 ай бұрын
After I started playing a "Miracle" Wiccan deck that I saw, with affliction, tech cards, and either Malekith or Anti-Venom (no Ajax), I climbed easily enough on ladder. Match-ups with Alioth/Cosmo or Bounce can eat it up, though.
@swedishZ0mBi32 ай бұрын
I have been phenomenal, you have been KMBest! Also I just wanna add that I think due to all the arishem gamers plaguing the ladder that we should take out black cat from Ajax decks and replace with Casandra Nova. It's also great against Thanos with their bigger deck. I just hit infinite with this brew: silver sable, hydra bob, hazmat, scorpion, USagent, valentina, cassandra nova, luke, red guardian, malekith, anti-venom and Ajax.
@IronManswer2 ай бұрын
Feels like it’s time to make Rogue a 2-cost. Luke Cage is having too much of an impact now, and people need more opportunities to respond.
@junipetta15952 ай бұрын
rogue 2 cost feels like too easy counterplay to ongoing cards as a whole without actually targeting the problem card. id get giving rogue more power, but 2 cost just wouldn’t work i reckon
@madnessobserver2 ай бұрын
14:47 I'm not really convinced Gwenpool is better than Surtr for this deck. The problem with Gwenpool here is that we have now introduced the rather common possibility of Gwenpool's buffs falling into Shadow King. She's not playing "for all that she can get" as often as you think if you are also running Shadow King as a tech card, which you kinda have to considering how much this deck wants to drop prio and swing hard with cost-efficient cards on turn 6. Another issue is that we've also introduced the possibility of having both Moon Girl and Gwenpool in hand which leads to extremelly clunky hand states. If you Moon Girl on turn 4 you are kinda forced to play a Gwenpool on 5 which is an anti-synergy play for Sunspot and She-Hulk, and if you Moon Girl on turn 5 both Gwenpools are effectively bricked in your hand. Meanwhile duplicating Surtr, while not the strongest thing the deck can do, still leads to very playable turn 6 hands. I've also seen the argument in this comment section that Gwenpool allows for better "hidden intel" because your opponent cannot play around her power allocation, I find this to be an extremelly weak argument because the way the deck functions already generates a lot of "hidden intel". You are playing Moon Girl + activating Black Swan on 5, the opponent literally cannot have any clue as to how much power you can actually put on the board or where the hell you are going to distribute it. Basically, you claim she brings more consistency to the deck, and I personally would argue the opposite. That being said, neither Gwenpool nor Surtr in particular are really what's actually carrying the deck, so I can see it performing really well regardless of which one you choose. It's more of a petty "IMO this is slightly more optimal" argument.
@pedromedrano51102 ай бұрын
malekith discard works cuz like km said b4 discard is a face up strategy and malekith is a able to at least hide an unexpected cube stealer sometimes or maybe u can draw in ur apocalypse abit better
@spincut132 ай бұрын
Just watched the recent 8 cubes episode, and yeah super curious if the first deck the day (Thanoshem) truly doesn’t remain still good after day 1. I dooo still want them to tweak Thanos further for power creep though.
@kholiknazarhuseynzoda75602 ай бұрын
Thanks for video Kmbest. One question. Why wave in arishem deck? Better to use rogue or corvus instead her?
@KMBestInASnap2 ай бұрын
turn 2 wave means opponent cant do anything, you always have thanos in hand
@kholiknazarhuseynzoda75602 ай бұрын
@@KMBestInASnap wow. I forgot about that. Thanks.
@ColHozeh2 ай бұрын
Anytime I see scream decks at first I thought grocket was another card for scream but the more I think about how it plays it seems Grocket might rather be a scream deck counter!
@nikolankford82842 ай бұрын
Just want to bask in anti-venom solidarity. You said he'd be good while many others i follow didnt. I like midrange and figured hes gonna be good if youre running shadow king and luke cage and im glad i did!
@NeroTheMana2 ай бұрын
Hydra Bob replacement options? :D (I feel like he's gonna be netfed or series dropped)
@Araknidz2 ай бұрын
Maybe nebula?
@swedishZ0mBi32 ай бұрын
He is not in any upcoming datamined spotlights or anything so I just straight up bought the card for tokens. No real good replacement, especially with Silver Sable being nerfed.
@BattleBeast-MarvelSnap2 ай бұрын
it’s crazy, I have stuff like Ajax, Anti Venom, but the one card that I’m missing from half the lists…. Hydra bob
@EACru20022 ай бұрын
I’d say even if they nerfed him to a 1/4, he’d still be the go to 1 drop stat stick, especially as you said since Silver Sable got nerfed.
@BattleBeast-MarvelSnap2 ай бұрын
@ it’s really 50/50 with it honestly. He debuted like that, and was a resounding flop and as soon as he became a 1/5 he became playable. Sadly taking 20% of his power away really hurts him
@MrStatistx2 ай бұрын
Negasonic never worked out for me. Either i don't have priority to destroy some big card at last round, or i do have priority and they play something where the card does not matter as much and the effect it plays still went off (since she only destroys after the card is played and does not prevent the on reveal play itself)
@thewhateverwhatnot63142 ай бұрын
Quick question……what is Blade’s purpose in the Drac Dump Deck. I don’t see why he’s in there. I’m not seeing an upside to having him there. Am I missing something?
@MakoTrevelyan2 ай бұрын
Small ball Scream got me to infinite. Great cook.
@loner0072 ай бұрын
How does that deck win with no high power units? What's the strategy/general play lines?
@MakoTrevelyan2 ай бұрын
@@loner007 scream is going to be your main scaler for power. But generally all the cards have good stats like spiderman, miles, stegron, and bob to put good points on the board, while negasonic, juggernaut, and shang prevent your opponent from winning lanes at the end.
@MindGoblinGames2 ай бұрын
Thank god enough people complained about Agent Venom that the entire archetype is dead now. God forbid.
@MrStatistx2 ай бұрын
A variety being good in the meta is basically a good sign that balance works out, but in Snap it still has some clear winner cards that are in all the decks that work, so probably not XD
@kekkorebu2 ай бұрын
what would you replace hydra bob in the ronan deck with?
@kelarax2 ай бұрын
Sooooo, is Anti-Venom worth the tokens?
@OBLIXIATE2 ай бұрын
That’s your only option cause it won’t be in spotlights for like a year based on how snap chooses the spotlight cards
@joseph20001172 ай бұрын
If you have Ajax yes. If you have malekith and/or wiccan yes. However January and December look like fantastic cards, so it's your choice if you should hold or not
@WeAreVenomizer2 ай бұрын
I have listen and i did get him mission acomplised When he's talking aboit anti-venom of course
@AllahIsTheOneAndOnlyUnity2 ай бұрын
“Big Deck Energy” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Kidd34212 ай бұрын
Surfer is in a decent spot with the rise of Arishem. Cass + Absorb. Most good tech cards r 3 cost.
@elitesurgeon2 ай бұрын
Got 6k tokens burning a whole in my pocket should I go for Wiccan or Malekith?! Series complete except for those and Misery
@WaitWhat-zw2in2 ай бұрын
Wiccan easily considering he opens a new archetype just on his own
@Mikmakboiii2 ай бұрын
Should i get hydra bob, cull obsidian, anti venom or wiccan for tokens?
@derekbohon38252 ай бұрын
I'd say anti venom. The others are just slight upgrades, and Wiccan is an archetype enabler like anti venom.
@coolshirtkid2 ай бұрын
thanos arishem is awesome to play, having a 30 card deck and still winning is so sick 😂
@LoLXD41182 ай бұрын
9/10 games is facing Arishem for me
@Ben-fh2xd2 ай бұрын
Cool, destroy them with Cassandra Nova
@LoLXD41182 ай бұрын
@Ben-fh2xd yep that's why I'm playing a DarkHawk hybrid
@DapumaAZ2 ай бұрын
Why MMM over dr strange in regular move and why dr strange in move bounce over AV - seems like you would want Strange in both or neither - curious as to the reasoning on each - is there that much anti venom / skaar that hurts regular move? Is it granting protection to madam web from rogue - I would think not you general want your slots open there…
@WaitWhat-zw2in2 ай бұрын
KM himself has said before that Strange can be an easy swap for Agent Venom
@jeffthemagicdragon22 ай бұрын
He called Malaketh “cute” hahahahaha!
@Zabougie2 ай бұрын
KMBoost uploading...
@Hazy_Bob2 ай бұрын
Hydra Bob and Martyr both being 5 power is laughable
@johnz0n2 ай бұрын
played a ton of moongirl dump at infinite. don't use wasp and kitty in the moon girl deck. wasp is too weak, kitty is clogging your hand making moon girl turns often awkward. i do like gwen instead of surtur tho, i will try that for sure.
@BetarayBillLover2 ай бұрын
I find it insane how long shit takes to come back around, how is gwenpool,Bob and Ajax not back but marvel boy and Kate are coming back in Jan, they are 100% trying to make side cards shitty and throw in S4 in the lineups next month because they know ppl are gonna be excited. So fucking frustrating
@mszabolcs37932 ай бұрын
I knew Anti Venom is good, but I had to skip because it was a very bad spotlight week...
@KantemirkO2 ай бұрын
how the heck arishem+thanos is viable? playing just a thanos deck usually has handclogging problems or being too tight on boardspace.
@Comrade2k72 ай бұрын
I checked. Was 5 mins late. Dammit.
@dinomorose40002 ай бұрын
We just don’t need ThanoShem thank you very much.
@d3m0nger2 ай бұрын
This is so dumb, why was Gwenpool not yet in any Spotlight cache :/
@jairjbm31112 ай бұрын
With surtur and skarr losing a point the deck lost some strong moves
@MrStatistx2 ай бұрын
I like Rogue instead of Shang Chi in my Scream deck, simply cause fuck Wong