The Best Disc For Every Speed (1-15)

[@amaupinracing]

I have THREE of the Missilens. THEY ARE NASTY.

[@GT31366]

wanna ship one to me

[@amaupinracing]

I wish I could but I can’t let them go. Sorry!

[@GT31366]

@@amaupinracing aww

[@elusivelectron]

I have one and not a big fan. They drop like a brick.

[@ro8erth]

I have two of the other version, raketen. They are amazing!

[@Cody435]

I would've went teebird for the 7 speed

[@ethanyawger5349]

Would’ve went fd

[@HoffaJedi]

River for the win

[@denalidav]

Obviously, come on man?!

[@tysonkauth7232]

Or FD. Or Eagle. I don't think the river is anywhere near the top of 7 spedds

[@jbrind00]

@@tysonkauth7232 FD all day. So many great and versatile runs.

[@wzywgwzywg]

6 speed = Axiom Crave. It's the disc people ask me about the most, because it's sooooo buttery smooth. Amazing forehand and backhand.

[@mathewjwallis4806]

Yep, Crave is way better than the Relay.

[@freelander]

I agree completely. The Crave is an absolute dream of a disc.

[@chadbizeau5997]

I would definitely pick the crave over the relay. It's more versatile.

[@seymourglass26]

Yes, but a Leopard is also a classic (and I mean in real plastic, not starter set stuff).

[@mathewjwallis4806]

@@seymourglass26 the Axiom Crave only comes in premium plastics - Neutron, Proton, Cosmic Neutron, Plasma and Fission.

[@Jimmy_Jim_Jimmy]

I like the unique picks, but definitely Teebird3 or Essence for 8 speed and Ballista for 14

[@PeaceManBro]

Essence is my favorite fairyway now, very neutral

[@devankallio1828]

Passion for 8 speed

[@silverelk]

Passion

[@MegaLaban12345]

The ballista is way to flippy

[@danny4081]

Love the essence

[@Iriask1]

Ballista pro is a popular 14 speed disc

[@damonwilliams2012]

Truth

[@aliakseimemelau3]

@@damonwilliams2012 No, that's 5 speed :)

[@kent_kast]

@@aliakseimemelau3 ballista pro? Na man that’s a 14 speed

[@martin_wilson81]

Teebird3 for the 8 speed slot

[@plugprod]

Mako3 as best mid IMO. Holds any line you send, and super stable in the wind.

[@tombobek2306]

My two mako3 are never the discs to throw into the wind

[@plugprod]

@@tombobek2306 true for some times, but they are least affected of my lot of mids to mitigate severe head or tail winds, though in major crosswinds nothing seems to hold any line with major wind shear…

[@BonasBuden]

Rather than having discs from all speed classes choose few different speeds and for those pick under stable, stable and over stable for each speed. That way you cover all of your game situations. It really does not matter which discs you choose. Just learn to know them very well and stick to them.

[@nfeil]

I would LOVE an update version of this

[@Peilla]

Kaxe Z would be a good pick in the 6 slot too.

[@zachrawlinson8193]

Only things I would change 6 - Crave. Same reasoning as relay but I feel like the crave is more well known and has higher usage rates. 7 - Teebird. Its too good not to be in and is way more popular than the river 10 - Anax. I'm not a discraft person, but the Anax seems more usable than the PD. Definitely underrated Everything else is solid!

[@MrKevlarkent]

Yea I was surprised also, I think both the crave and the servo are better/more known discs in the 6(.5) speed class

[@McSlobo]

This is kinda good concept, but I'd make an improvement and make best disc for each speed in each stability category, like "for high winds", overstable, stable, understable and flippy.

[@benoconnor7034]

Great list! Only two things I would change are roc for 4 speed and stag in for the 8 speed.

[@Paracelsus23]

Playing with fire here... Great Job with the list! Straight to the point with reasoning.

[@discbee9107]

Great list, I agree with almost all… I just haven’t tried the P2 or Binx. Rest of the list very solid! Great video and list

[@wisherb1]

This is a pretty solid listing, I would have choose the essence for the 8 speed.

[@JC-dc7eb]

Teebird3 is a way better disc than an essence

[@dc7993]

Volt has entered the chat

[@charliemurphy3897]

Was gonna say this, can literally throw any shot with that disc based on the power of your throw.

[@MrKevlarkent]

@@dc7993 Yea I have 3 volts in my bag, 1 lab2 electron that's quite Flippy, 1 beat in almost max weight fission that's very straight and 1 plasma that's more on the overstable side, have a long pushing fade when thrown on a slight hyzer

[@Gabriel_Von_Aschen-Disc_Golf]

a teebird 3 can do every thing any other one can do, it can be overstable if you het the right run or if you beat it in it can be understable for your turn overs and rollers.

[@jhartman3]

1 Berg 2 P2 3 envy 4 Zone 5 Buzzz 6 Leopard 7 TBird 8 Tbird 3 9 Firebird 10 P2/Thunderbird 11 Wraith 12 Destroyer 13 Nuke/Ballista 14 Who care.

[@seraph...4473]

Solid list I think the 6 speed and 7 speed are the most questionable but I like that you committed to what you thought.

[@AceManMark]

love the commentary

[@marqz900]

1. Berg 2. Judge 3. Pure 4. Roc 5. Buzzz 6. Leopard 7. Explorer 8. Teebird3 9. Falk 10. Monarch 11. Wraith 12. Tern 13. Nuke 14. Ballista

[@d.love1738]

This is a great video. You should do a series for turn and fade at each speed. Best overstable one speed. You could also incorporate specific plastics so like best three speed overstable could be the zone in flx plastic etc etc. great content, this Channel will make it for sure. If you need discs to give away or review please reach out

[@aaronfriedman103]

My list goes like this: 1: Berg, and it's not even close. Agree. 2: JK Aviar-X / KC Pro Aviar / Big Bead Aviar / Aviar Driver (all the same mold). I like beaded putters, and I think this is the best one. 3: The Envy is a fine pick for this slot, but I like the TSA Praxis even more. Both discs are excellent on both putts and approaches. To me the Praxis is a hair better. 4: Innova Toro. To me it's the perfect overstable approach disc. It easily out-Zones the Zone. 5: This one is tough. There are so many good and different mids. The ones I bag are the MD1 (Reinvented), MD3 (Reinvented), and the Discraft Drone. IMO they are each the best at what they do. Honorable mention to the TSA Pathfinder and Westside Warship, which are also excellent. 6: OK, nobody knows about these but I'm telling ya. The Eye by Storm Discs for straight glidey shots, and The Duke by Disc Golf UK for overstable. Honorable mention to the Kastaplast Kaxe, which flies similar to The Duke. 6.5: Axiom Crave. It's no FD, but it's not bad. 7: Discmania FD (Reinvented) and it's not even close. IMO it's the best fairway disc ever made. 8: I'm gonna go with the DGA Pipeline but the Discraft Passion is a fine 8-speed as well, and so is the Lat 64 Saint Pro if you can find one. I don't typically bag a speed-8 and I don't feel strongly about these pics. 9: Innova owns the 9-speeds. Valkyrie, Thunderbird, Firebird, depending on the shot. Take your pick, they're all phenomenal. And if you can find a Champion Viking, it's excellent too. Oh! Also, the Discmania CD2 belongs on this list. It was made by Innova too. 10: Discmania PD / Innova Power Disc. I agree with you here. It's magical. The new C-Line Reinvented model doesn't quite measure up. I'm curious about the new Special Blend S-Line that's about to come out. We'll see. But for now I'm going with the older Innova-made mold. 10.5: TSA Animus. There are no other 10.5-speeds that I know of, but it deserves mentioning. Many people prefer it to the Wraith. 11: I certainly understand the Wraith in this slot. But I also understand that many think the Royal Grace beats it. For some reason I just can't throw them well. Personally, I like the MVP Wave or the Viking Ragnarok, but both are on the slightly understable side compared to the Wraith and Grace. 12: For pure distance, Destroyer, sure, it's hard to argue. But it depends on the plastic and the run. Or maybe the DD3 is better overall. I also think the Discraft Force is the best at what it does (go straight and far and then fade hard). 13: Dynamic Discs Sheriff. Fight me. I'll throw this over a Destroyer any day. OK, except windy days. 14: Ballista. I have an Opto Chameleon one that's more stable than others I've tried, and man does it go far. Honorable mention to the Westside Queen, which might be the farthest flying disc I own when there's a tailwind. 14.5: Axiom Excite. MVP/Axiom has several molds that they at least at one time claimed were 14.5-speed. Of these, I like the Excite the best. 15: I have both the Raketen, which is slightly understable, and the Missilen, which is overstable. Of these I choose the Missilen, but I would still pick a speed-12 Force to execute the same shots.

[@JustinP74]

Best for me picks 1-13. Things to consider: I've never thrown a 15 and don't use 14's often enough to have an opinion. I have always had a shootout between discs of similar stats from the many disc manufacturers. The discs I list are the ones that have won against their competitors. My average max arm speed is 65mph I have medium sized hands. Feel/comfort and performance are considered... not sales or popularity. I've not used any Discmania or Prodigy discs. Manufacturers compared by me: Innova, Discraft, Lat64, Dynamic Discs, Westside, MVP, Axiom, Streamline, Mint, Lone Star. If more than one disc is in a certain category, then I would choose either to carry and be happy. If a category is not listed in any respective speed, then I haven't thrown one to give an honest opinion. VOS = very over stable / most fade OS = over stable / more fade Stable = straight / light fade at end US = under stable / more turn VUS = very under stable / most turn 1 speed: Stable - Kastaplast Berg (bagged) 2 speed: OS - Discraft Challenger OS Stable - MVP Nomad 3 speed: OS - Streamline Stabilizer (bagged) Best forehand disc at this speed...ever Stable - Axiom Envy (bagged) / Westside Maiden (bagged) US - Westside Swan 1 reborn / Discraft Fierce (bagged) 4 speed: VOS - Westside Anvil (bagged) So underrated and so beefy! OS - Westside Harp Stable - Lone Star Harpoon US - Lone Star BB6 Love this disc. 5 speed: VOS - Dynamic Discs Justice (bagged) OS - Lat64 Anchor (bagged) Stable - Innova Mako3 (bagged) / Mint Mustang (bagged) US - Discraft Meteor (bagged) / MVP Uplink VUS - Axiom Paradox 6 speed: OS - MVP Resistor Stable - MVP Servo / Kastaplast Kaxe Z (new Kaxe) US - Innova Leopard / MVP Signal 7 speed: OS - Innova Eagle / Lat64 Glory (bagged) Stable - Innova TL / Lone Star Frio / Innova Hawkeye (bagged) US - Innova Leopard3 (bagged) VUS - Westside Underworld 8 speed: OS - MVP Terra / Westside Bear Stable - Innova TL3 / Lone Star Dos X US - Mint Jackalope / Lat64 Diamond VUS - Innova Archangel 9 speed: VOS - Mint Phoenix (bagged) OS - Dynamic Discs Getaway Stable - Innova Thunderbird / Lone Star Lariat (bagged) US - Westside Hatchet (bagged) VUS - Innova Roadrunner 10 speed: OS - Westside Fortress (bagged) / Discraft Anax Stable - Discraft Vulture / Lat64 Musket US - Lat 64 Sapphire / Discraft Avenger SS VUS - Lone Star Tumbleweed (bagged) 11 speed: VOS - Discraft Machete OS - Dynamic Discs Sergeant / Innova Wraith Stable - Lat64 Grace / Lat64 Flow US - Discraft Scorch VUS - Innova Mamba 12 speed: VOS - Discraft Flick OS - Innova XCaliber (bagged) / Innova Destroyer Stable - Westside Sword (bagged) US - Discraft Hades / Thrasher (bagged) 13 speed: VOS - Lat64 Stiletto / Discraft Nuke OS OS - Dynamic Discs Raider / Axiom Panic Stable - Dynamic Discs Sheriff (bagged) US - Discraft Nuke SS / Axiom Tenacity

[@-moominremix-3280]

For me: 1 - Berg 2 - P2 3 - Luna 4 - Tactic 5 - Buzzz 6 - Warship 7 - River/Spark 8 - idc 9 - Undertaker 10 - Anax 11 - Grace 12 - Destroyer 13 - Nuke 14 - Corvette 15 - idc

[@anthonyvirag8684]

1:polecat 2:judge 3:envy 4:harp 5:mako3 6:don’t throw one but (leopard) 7: FD or tee bird 8: tee bird 3 9: firebird 10:beast (I personally don’t throw) 11: wraith 12: destroyer 13: boss 14: ballista pro 15: raketen

[@thickyjuice]

Really awesome list bolstered by the fact you could really go out on a course with this "bag" and perform well. Not many holes outside a more understable option or two depending on preference

[@Robby_C]

Solid list for sure. For 5 speed I would def have to throw my vote to the MVP Reactor. They are extremely consistent with forehand and backhand.

[@jimmyblundell7600]

I love my reactor but the Hex is just soooo nice. I love it for flip up dead straight forehands and lovely straight backhands with less bite than a reactor.

[@seymourglass26]

Bruh, I don't bag it, but Buzz is literally the most popular disc in the game. Stop it.

[@jimmyblundell7600]

@@seymourglass26 it’s highly unpopular in my bag ;)

[@kushxclinton]

6 speed I’d go with a dga squall, sweet video!!

[@adnanqureshi4761]

Fully agree with you! And I would further specify a max or near max weight SP line squall. not sure why it’s not that popular but I can easily play an entire round with just that disc and it’s really fun to throw. IMO the older ones from like 7-10 years ago are the best.

[@kushxclinton]

@@adnanqureshi4761 same!! gotta be a heavy SP. i have a beat in LE squall from 2010 masters cup that is gre3at too

[@TheWulfbane37]

6 speed - DGA Squall. If you'd have thrown it, it would have been on your list.

[@folkusenormus5533]

My personal list: 1: Kastaplast Berg 2: Discmania P2 3: Latitude 64° Pure 4: Discraft Zone 5: MVP Hex 6: Kastaplast Kaxe 7: Innova Teebird 8: Discmania Essence 9: Kastaplast Lots 10: Discmania PD 11: Latitude 64° Grace 12: Innova Destroyer (Though it depends on which run) 13: Latitude 64° Rive 14: Latitude 64° Ballista Pro 15: Latitude 64° Missilen

[@timmclemore2111]

I love that he showed Another Round Disc Golf in Charlotte, NC in his video lol

[@mrtony1985]

2: Judge is the best putter to start with. Works for intermediate players too. 3: Envy is the best by default here. 5: M4, Roc or Buzz are all in my bag. M4 is the straightest, Roc I can manipulate the most, Buzzz has the perfect fade. 7: F3 is such a solid fairway driver or for those 200+ straight throws. 9: Valkyrie, FX4 & Ronin are all great for backhands & forehands. The FX flies straightest & the Ronin gets the most curve. 10: Avenger SS can do it all for my backhands. Maybe the most underrated disc there is. 11: Wraith is better for forehands imo. This is also the speed I notice most players starting out can't quite get so get a 9 speed before getting to these. 12: Falcor & Destroyer. The destroyer gets all the pub and is obviously great but let me tell you the Falcor is awesome! I LOVE this disc. It's a nice compliment to it and flies different enough to justify space in your bag. 13: Katana & D3. Personally I like the Katana more for backhands and the D3 more for forehands with how forgiving it is. The D3 has a HARD fade so don't be afraid to anhyzer the hell out of it to get around a late tree bend.

[@orb2150tx]

The River is the only disagreement I have. Your list is strong besides that.

[@longway2pro]

Solid! I think you did a pretty good job!! I only truly disagreed on your 7 and 8 speeds, which I would have nominated a Teebird and a TL3 for, respectively, but everything else checked out! =)

[@bobbyshizz2138]

Agree 100% GStar TL3 is my favorite disc in my bag.

[@idiocracy9530]

Not thinking about the sales numbers, but just the discs. Honarable alternatives imo. If you think Buzzz is a bit too understable and MD3 too overstable, Lat64 makes Compass that flies very true to it's numbers 5501, straight all the way with a slight fade. If you think Relay is too understable, Kastaplast makes Kaxe and Kaxe Z, they're both overstable mids and fly true to their numbers. Kaxe 6403 & Kaxe Z 6502. Is PD too overstable, Lat64 Musket which is slightly understable at 10,4,-0,5, 2 might be right up your alley.

[@benoconnor7034]

In my opinion the boss is better than the nuke for the 13 speed slot.

[@benjaminhoff5004]

This feels like the most influential or popular or unique discs at each speed. Interested to see what you see people throwing on the course. At mine P2, Teebird3, Wave, and Daedalus are some of the discs I see a lot.

[@johnpatton7533]

The nuke, wraith, and destroyer are must haves in my bag. Wraith was the first driver I ever used and I've kept one in my bag ever since as a go to when throwing close to water hazards because I'm so familiar with how it flies at this point both forehand and backhand

[@RoyalMela]

Innova XD is the best low speed disc ever made. Super stable. I have two from early 90's and still use them every round.

[@ridley6627]

My personal list (in terms of popularity/my opinion): 1. Berg 2. Aviar 3. Envy 4. Zone 5. Buzzz 6. Crave 7. FD 8. Teebird3 9. Firebird 10. Anax 11. Wraith 12. Destroyer 13. Nuke 14. Ballista Pro 15. Missilen

[@elderberrysnackshack6655]

Dude pretty much did a what's in the bag video for me. With 4 exceptions.

[@daveminke2946]

Well, this may be exactly what I was looking for. I grew up throwing frisbee and have been pretty good at it. I’m 63 now, so haven’t thrown much. Taught my kids to throw when they were little. My son is now 21 and is very much enjoying disc golf. I played a round for the first time with him today. Didn’t do too bad. I am considering buying all of these discs if available. Unless it is recommended to go another way. Let me know. Thank you. Liked & subbed.

[@kylerprue1987]

Great idea for a video. This was a very entertaining watch that I would like to see other channels copy.

[@leemccarthy129]

Bag a Missilen as well. By far my favorite driver. I’m a forehand player which allows me the get enough power to extract what this disc was designed to do. If you can find one, and have the arm or technique for it. buy it, you won’t be disappointed.

[@5BadDiscGolfers]

Loved my missilen gold hex. We called it my BBD big black disc. Would absolutely hammer an anhyzer forehand and you knew it would always fight back. Lost all the ones I had and definitely miss them

[@rosswddg]

Very respectable list. I wouldn't change much. For the 6-speed, the crave is a bit more popular than the Relay, but they're so close to each other. Either is fine. Also for the 8-speed the Volt or the Essence would have my pick.

[@MaxLBogue]

6 is an underrated rim width that most brands besides MVP don't mess with too much anymore. The relay, the resistor and the crave are a super nasty combo. Crave for straight-flying distance out to 400 or more, resistor for high-power flex and hyzer shots, and the relay for buttery turnovers.

[@MattCromwell]

Maybe I suck because the only disc I throw from your list is the Buzz (but o have three of them!). 10-11 is my speed and I love the Sapphire (10) and Mystere and Scorch (11). But I've got a noodle arm, so... Thanks for a quick and helpful overview. Subscribing now!

[@brandonyoungs1951]

7 - (Teebird), 8 - (Essence).. I like the Teebird, TL, and Underworld all more than the River. Essence and TL3 are great 8s.

[@jbrind00]

** 7 - FD

[@chrisjensen9941]

Missilens and Raketans are great. The Raketan is my go-to distance driver

[@freddiecrunk9499]

great to see Envy there given that is my putter and approach disc going on five years... three in bag when James put it on map... and given I am sometimes rated over 900 and as often as not registered for the year and due as many as three low level tourneys a year my opinion has corresponding clout

[@adriana4501]

My favorite 5 speed is the Apollo from Alfa disc love the feel in the hand and the trow😄😄

[@Anonymouslolwut]

This disc is so smooth. Flight of a buzzz with the feel of almost a fairway driver in hand. Similar hand feel to a Crave.

[@discbee9107]

Nice list!

[@chiodius]

Speed 7: discmania fd Speed 4: prodigy A2 (at least the beaten in variant)

[@jojodamajicmunky]

Love the list especially since I bag a few of them and it makes them feel famous to be featured in your video. Hopefully they’ll use those positive vibes to not hit the first available next time I throw them.

[@elijahclements4428]

I own a rakaten actually, the other 15 speed from Latitude 64, I definitely don't have the arm speed for it but it's fun to throw and has a unique design.

[@Viktor-uv9fr]

When me and my friend started out playing discgolf 6 years ago we bought one disc each. My friend bout the 15 speed Missilen. He didn't end up playing as much as us be he's probably played 30 rounds and only used Missilen. So I've thrown that crazy disc. It's very overstable but goes fast. He has colored the disc silver/gray with some spray paint.

[@Burgee_6289]

for 6 speed check out the warship by westside. incredible mid that deserves way more attention and sales.

[@YoungOneJim]

Its a 5 speed 6 glide!

[@Burgee_6289]

@@YoungOneJim my VIP air warships are 6/5/0/1 can't post photos here or I would

[@Burgee_6289]

@@YoungOneJim it is weird though that 5 speed versions exist. I wonder if they changed something in production. If you go watch danny lindahls review the numbers are at 6 speed, but disc golf examiners tests have 5 sped ones, but they were at 6 for a long time.

[@beard_dg]

@@Burgee_6289 They updated these from being a 6 speed to a 5 speed a few years back. Interchangeable honestly since those things just fly forever,

[@garnerthecube]

I have an Origio Burst Warship and it’s 5,5,0,1.

[@fall_up_stairs_8834]

I've thrown the raketen, the other 15 speed disc. It has thumb tracks, super cool disc

[@FatherLizard]

Very bold picks here..

[@garyhaws6543]

I agree with almost every disc on your list except 2. 2 speed disc should be the wizard clearly IMO. Also the 8 speed should be the TL3 or the stag. Everything else on the list is spot on. Great list!

[@jedediahgordon4064]

should do the same list but factor in the plastic... would any change?

[@nicholashernandez1494]

The 15 speed missaleen is a good training disc. It's smooth where you put your fingers, for both forehand and backhand

[@GregoryM1]

Really nice list! I definitely agree there are molds of discs that are just replicas of Innova or Discraft molds.

[@myronmiller4754]

How did you pick MVP Relay over the superclassic Leopard. Dx for beginners, but Drew Gibson can bomb the max weight in premium plastic

[@wesmoorer3638]

I used to have a missilen 15 speed driver. I remember it was fun to throw. Extremely overstable. One thing I thought was cool about the disc is there was a little plastic part on the sides with no ridges. I think it was put there to put your hand there when throwing. I was not really sure. I really liked mine. I lost it in the woods playing at my local course. I looked almost everywhere for it . Never found it

[@EssentialDisc]

Most people who throw our disc the Honey tell us they are using it to replace their Zone because it doesn't get tossed in the wind as much and has a Buzzz like feel.

[@ThunderousCacophony]

I've gor the Missilen in 176g....it DOES fly!!! Got it in San Marcos

[@playdiscgolf1546]

The Relay is great for forehand and backhand and glides great

[@Tacocheesecake]

14 speed id say its probably the Ballista Pro. it seems like one of the only 14 speeds thats thrown consistently at the pro level

[@richardhislop-harvestthena4882]

I now only throw MVP/Axiom disks! Love them!

[@lukasjohansson5655]

Think I would go with the Essence for 8 speed

[@billthecrusher8283]

I love my Missilen for big spike hyzers. Decent overall list

[@DavidMartinez-zq1hu]

I vote explorer for the best 7 speed spot

[@jjsl14]

8 speed, Discmania Essence, hands down

[@drewg3087]

Great video man! The Saint retro for slot 9 speed, and Star leopard for slot 6, and emac classic judge for 2 slot. Great list regardless. Oh and if you love the Wraith like I do, check out the Trace by MVP in neutron. It’s 💴.

[@ChristerGilbert]

Missilen is interesting. It is by far the fastest disc to go 300 feet ever made, but dont expect it to go much further. It feels like it just doesnt want to fly. For reference, I throw a destroyer 450.

[@maksenDK]

personally i would probably put Mako3 at the 5 speed. But great list!

[@KreppelSeppel]

I love throwing the missilen as forehand due to its wide rim. But there is also the Raketen out there with 15 speed, which is just slightly more understable.

[@richc5825]

I've been looking for something faster for my forehand. I'm kinda old, 56, but my arm speed is still pretty good and I throw a Lat64 Knight about 375-400 and it's a 14. If you give me a thumbs up I'll go buy a Raketen!

[@KreppelSeppel]

@@richc5825 Good Luck finding one! :)

[@richc5825]

@@KreppelSeppel Well, thanks for the optimism! 😆

[@chrismstraete]

Over all i like your list. Its hard to choose only one disc in several of these spots tho. Me personally love discmania and latitude64 over most of these other brands. But thats my opinion. Some like cats and some like dogs i guess.

[@cfayfuture]

I would have the Eagle and Raptor both on my list but other than that you've got a good list.

[@robertjones1730]

JLS Milenium plastic for 8 speed, the best selling fairway driver of all time. 250 on a straight line, 300 on a straight line, 350 on a straight line. Grab your favorite putter and a JLS and go throw your personal best round with 2 discs. Mic drop

[@eliwirth1938]

I would go with a Teedbird3 for 8 speed, but otherwise good list!

[@dc7993]

gotta be fd for me

[@eliwirth1938]

@@dc7993 Isn’t FD 7 speed? That was my choice for 7

[@aviserig]

I have actually owned both 15-speed drivers, a Missilen and Raketen. Being a forehand player the Raketen was awesome, but I don't have the arm to get the full use out of it so it made way for a Photon eventually. The Missilen was in my bag maybe 2 rounds. Just not for me.

[@FuckGoogle2]

Raketen works well on flick forehands too, plenty of glide with just a little touch, it's currently not in my bag due to me getting too creative on the course and needing to get back to basics again for a while.

[@keendawg1994]

I threw the 15 speed raketen for awhile before losing it 😢 less overstable than the missilen I believe though the one I had was so beat in that it would flip upside down on a power forehand. I suppose it was fast but it didn’t seem to go very far and the hex dimpling didn’t feel good to me

[@minusthepain]

Bought a Missilen when they first came out. I was excited to give it a try. Threw it one time… into a river, never to be seen again. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@jasonfarrow1072]

I found a missilin on my local course ..returned to owner 3 days later..had never heard of it

[@localdiscgolf]

I enjoyed this list and video! Thanks for doing it. Nice brand diversity. I do hear those that said Teebird over River, but it’s a very interesting disc with its 7 glide. Haven’t thrown one. The Teebird is pretty iconic though which is a theme you stuck to at points during this video and for good reason! Thought the Luna might have gotten a shake at 3 but I can’t fault you for going Envy. There’s 2 in my bag currently. Thanks again! Great debatable topic!

[@derekbroekhoven5498]

Honestly, I struggle to believe that any disc is the "best". Is a Zone really that much different from a Harp, Toro, A3, Tactic, etc? A destroyer really that much different from a DD3, D2, Zeus, etc? A buzzz any different from a Mako3? Firebird different from a Felon, Cap Rap, or FD3? I get the point about sales, absolutely that makes sense. But aside from that, different runs fly differently, different plastics feel different, they all fly pretty much the same anyway. Just my two cents Edit: the only one I can think of is the Boss, given the world records have been set with it

[@aaronfriedman103]

I think to a large extent you have a point. Manufacturers see what's working and copy each other. No mold more-so than the Destroyer. But they tweak them. In my experience, the D2 is more understable (unless you're comparing it to a beat-in Pro Destroyer - those things are flippy!). The DD3 was made by Innova too, and I think they wanted it to feel like a slightly beat-in Destroyer out of the box, so I think they tweaked the shape to give it a touch more glide. The Mako3 has a different feel than the Buzzz and generally can't handle as much torque, but will go even straighter than a Buzzz when thrown lightly. The Toro is more overstable than any Harp or Tactic or Zone I've ever thrown, and less glidey than an A3. It's harder for me to tell differences from Firebird-like molds - they all just dump out. 😆

[@mackanbror1346]

I have a speed 15 disc! Raketen fron latitude. It was my first disc ever 😅

[@no1warriorsfan]

I wonder if Latitude 64's Rive will ever compete with the Nuke. All the trilogy pros are throwing it now. That Royal Grand plastic is fantastic!!

[@jeremyfletcher7726]

For 8 speed the tbird3 should have been there along with the 9 speed should have been the thunderbird

[@wzywgwzywg]

What plastic/weight of thunderbird are you throwing? I have a max weight champion thunderbird and it's more over-stable than my max weight star boss.

[@sethpeake]

The missilian bombs. Pretty stable. But it goes.

[@alexbreeco]

The top 3 for each speed would make for a very interesting video

[@notsure1350]

I like my Pharoah for a 12 speed. I do love my Valkyrie as well

[@ruschj00]

Pretty crazy to not have the roc and teebird on this list.

[@anasimouse4063]

Missilens are strange discs I have one for rare extreme S shots because the one I have can be launched like a roller and then equally snaps back to overstable on a dime so very unique flight path for me.

[@elionexpo3326]

Respect for the bohrium I love that

[@nicocusimano8641]

Warship at 6 in my opinion but I understand. Also not having the ballista/pro at 14 felt criminal. innova dominates 7 speeds but picking the river over the explorer felt off as well but once again, not my list so I respect it!

[@JB77776]

My only argument is 1 the glitch. It feels better in the hand. The glitch is a different way to approach. That's what 1 speed disc are supposed to be.