Golden did the pencils and inks for some of the pages. Layouts for the whole book. Mike DeCarlo did inks on the job after Golden had to meet a deadline and give up inking the whole job. If you have a good eye for Golden, you'll be able to tell what Golden inked!!
@russworks28823 жыл бұрын
The DeCarlo finishes are good, but definitely harsher than the Golden-inked pages, which happen early on. Still a nice comic, but it could've been perfect.
@toddblackwood1293 жыл бұрын
@ John Beatty Art betcha a hundred bucks that’s an uncredited Gary Martin inking backgrounds as well, the ‘Martin’s Moving Service’ on the double page spread gives him away! :)
@JohnBeatty3 жыл бұрын
@@russworks2882 Golden actually did ink some choice panels and almost another full page near the back of the book.
@russworks28823 жыл бұрын
@@JohnBeatty I'll have to dig it out and have a look.
@nigelcox-hagan68203 жыл бұрын
Ed and Jim : you’ve asked what we like to see and what unfinished comic series we’d like to see completed. I think a perfect pick would be the 1980s DC series Thriller by Robert Loren Fleming and Trevor Von Eeden. The story is unique, the art is exceptional and no one seems to remember this comic at all.
@toddblackwood1293 жыл бұрын
I remember! And didn’t Lynn Varley color it as well?
@djobiwan473 жыл бұрын
I asked for this recently on IG. Loved Thriller.
@ne473 жыл бұрын
Golden did a DAMN good job ! He did some pencils ✏ in "Batman Family" back in the 1970s . Now, for me however, Neal Adams' work on the caped crusader is the "GOAT!" . . .
@russworks28823 жыл бұрын
He did an interesting run on Batman Family when Milgrom was editor. I really like the Demon and Man-Bat back-ups that came just before they gave him the lead Batman strip, some of which were inked by P.Craig Russell.
@carstenmaat46533 жыл бұрын
I was 12 years old when reading this and I knew that I was in for a special treat right after the first pages. (And I love the DC hardcover of his collected BATMAN tales. )
@theswan18523 жыл бұрын
I started this vid half way through and recognized DeCarlo. I loved this comic when I was young, but I remember DeCarlo was the first guy to ink Aparo. He stiffened things up and took the grace out, I thought. Again, so weird to be having 16 year old thoughts reoccur 34 years later.
@bobhoskins-kl6ue3 жыл бұрын
9:29 left hand page bottom right panel, that is a straight up Todd Mcfarlane face, and her figure in the top panel reminds me of Art Adams
@ahmedt21463 жыл бұрын
For the best drawn Batman comics you need to look at Norm Breyfogles work- hands down the best monthly Batman artist there ever was- his work in the 90s was breathtaking.
@davidcosdesign67853 жыл бұрын
Thank you for spotlighting this comic! I have always considered "Player on the Other Side" an unheralded classic! Great to hear your analysis of it!
@kyleandroschuk14533 жыл бұрын
Great book! One of my favourites since I bought it off the rack as kid. One note of correction, however - Adrienne Roy, one of the major colorists for DC, was a woman, not a guy. She was married to another major colorist for DC in the early 70s, Anthony Tollin. Keep up the great vids!
@MisterMech3 жыл бұрын
True draftsmanship on display! Every panel is a heavy hitter of visual communication and just a real treat for the eye. That rare book whose mere existence is inspirational for a budding artist. This is why we make time to study, learn and stay in touch with the fundamentals of our craft. The level of quality from the compositions, the colors and the line work is what we should all aspire to achieve.
@JamesHaney3 жыл бұрын
I remember getting this in 84, being amazed at the Golden/DeCarlo/Roy work. Still pick it up to wonder at this classic BATMAN tale! Thanks for the overview! 🖖♾
@raydillon3 жыл бұрын
I really really really want a printed edition of your pen drawing book, Jim. I think that every single time I see it. Love the notebook style format and the drawings look insanely good.
@trex196813 жыл бұрын
Masterpiece story and art. Michael Golden is sadly forgotten in "best ever" lists, but he really is one of the greats.
@PaulAllanBallard3 жыл бұрын
Was not expecting Pander Brothers and Arnold Drake references.
@kuku8733 жыл бұрын
i still have my copy Michael Golden's Art is Great in this comic keep up the Good Work.
@jpboursaw44693 жыл бұрын
I was fortunate enought to meet Mr. Golden in 2018 and had him sign this very issue! At the time I didn't know he didn't prefer doing Super Hero material, but rather stuff like the 'Nam. Could've fooled me, with the amount of thought that went into this story! The shadow and angle work evoked modern (and not so modern) film noir. Anyway, I foolishly asked him if he'd seen the sequel story that's now reprinted with this one, and he said no. Should've been my first clue. As for the cover, the colored cityscape, or the magenta figures in the dual splash pages, those are single color overlays. That's essentially a piece of artwork on a plastic sheet laid over an existing page, and integrated in the color sepperation for the printing process. Frank Miller used this trick just as effectively for a Daredevil cover (# 181? I don't recall exactly). DD's head shot in red in the background, with Elektra's full figure heavily inked in foreground. This kind of approach has been lost in the digital age. I thought the young Wrath resembled Stallone, too. And while I see the resembleance of Grayle to Grendel's Christine Sparr, I think the were going for more of a Vargas painting look. This really was an 80's style. Like big ratted out hair. Weird times.... To my mind, this story is on of the all time best, and I think it made it into one of the volumes of Greatest Batman Stories. It even inspired an episode of the annimated "The Batman" from the early 2000's! Should've been a full length feature, but, these days you take what you can get...
@toddblackwood1293 жыл бұрын
@JP Boursaw with all due respect, digital is your friend, my friend! Regarding DD 181: that process is called duo shade or duo tone, I know which process you’re thinking of but I thiiink that was called an overlay? And that stuff hasn’t been lost, I would argue that today’s artists don’t understand the incredible range they have at their fingertips with digital drawing. Case in point, i recreated that cover and if you want you can check it out on Instagram at @inkdrinkthink and judge for yourself! ;)
@richardb62603 жыл бұрын
I don't know story. But there was some sort of problem that prevented Golden from providing finished pencils.
@richardb62603 жыл бұрын
Michael Golden's masterpiece is Avengers Annual #10...or maybe Dr. Strange #55...no! It's G.I.Joe Annual #2... wait!...
@toddblackwood1293 жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw that Ed McMahon drawing I knew there was no way you two would be able to ignore it... :p.
@bobhoskins-kl6ue3 жыл бұрын
if you want to see some well drawn hands :) I'll throw my vote down again for Detective Comics #526
@dwayneskubon38123 жыл бұрын
The special was reprinted in the Batman in the 80's trade paperback
@darwinblinks3 жыл бұрын
Capullo is my #1 Batman artist all time
@donaldstarkey46463 жыл бұрын
I use love, drawing super heroes, growing up!
@Rob.S-3 жыл бұрын
BATMAN!
@KingndQueens3 жыл бұрын
When do we get Red Room in HC? 😁
@shermanium78343 жыл бұрын
Dakota North haircut
@mrvic93953 жыл бұрын
What I like about this issue was the art, not the story. Young me: how can he be like Batman he ain't no billion, hasn't been trained in every fighting technique, and never went to college to study criminology. Yeah, I was that nerd =D
@b.l.fisher82303 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on the Bleeding Cool article!
@oluhamilton21213 жыл бұрын
Nash, l didn't like Mike DeCarlo inks......not for Golden
@RichardPace3 жыл бұрын
That cover is sooooooooo bland though. . . .
@toddblackwood1293 жыл бұрын
Buddy, that cover’s amazing! Whatchou talkin’ bout, Willis?!?