The Best Electric Motocross Bikes (in 2024)

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Electric Cycle Rider

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@Mauipat
@Mauipat Ай бұрын
I bought the QS138 kit with the 60 amp hour battery from Electro & Co. I put it in my CRF250L frame and the bike comes in at 305 lbs with wind shield , hand guards and crash bars, ( I;m 75 and I need a bit more protection) . The bikes street legal, but I still ride off road on week ends. This bike has extended my riding life and is soooo smooth. I really like being able to hear the birds on slower trail rides. I also like the power delivery. It' way easier to ride than the old CRF 250 L. I wish they had the 75 amp hour battery when I bought the kit, but I guess I'll wait until they come out with a 120 amp battery that's the same size as mine. It may be awhile. Really enjoyed the comparison, mines no Yamaha, but it really makes me smile. Aloha Pat
@je7647
@je7647 Ай бұрын
Get a 220amp battery from amorge got one for about 600usd 32ah 72v
@SLSMe
@SLSMe 26 күн бұрын
Dude you’re already winning. You still have legit power and Hondas are dope. How long did it take to mod? I bet it’s WAY smoother than 4stroke? I’ve been considering on my YZ-125
@SLSMe
@SLSMe 26 күн бұрын
@@je7647Never even heard of them. Thanks for the suggestion
@reeserides9371
@reeserides9371 Ай бұрын
Another great video, Tucker. I would love to see a range comparison between the Varg and EMX. I currently have a Varg and use it for hard enduro and single track. I love the idea of the EMX for its lighter weight but even with a swappable battery my rides don't often loop back to the truck. So if the range was comparable between the two, I'd think hard about finding a YZ rolling chassis. Looking forward to a range comparison particularly in mountain single track. I can get 40 miles comfortably on my Varg starting the ride at about 100% and ending at 10%. Since my weight and riding style are not the same as yours Tucker, I'd like to see that comparison with you on both bikes hitting single track. Could be very eye opening for me. Thanks again for all the great content.
@trajanfpv
@trajanfpv Ай бұрын
I second this request. The review was great, but range was missing.
@JaneKLX
@JaneKLX Ай бұрын
I would love to see your Varg when you ride Hard Enduro. I think Hard Enduro would kill the Varg. The Varg has virtually no battery protection in the front and I want to see how you ride it up big tree trunks, ride rocky fields, ravines, ... The YZ EMX is the best for me because it has a full Enduro frame with perfect protection for the engine and battery. The advantage is that other smaller 72V batteries can also be used, e.g. from Talaria, Surron, .... which also fits in the frame. For MX the Varg is well built, but for hard Enduro it's a bad concept = bad frame and protection
@reeserides9371
@reeserides9371 Ай бұрын
@@JaneKLX agreed the protection is lacking. In my experience the bike is phenomenal in hard enduro. But it's my only electric bike. I have seen guys with some sort of plastic cover over the battery to protect it. But so far it's not been an issue for me. Finding other protection bits has been a challenge. But they are out there.
@MrChadx1
@MrChadx1 Ай бұрын
Yes please on range comparison. For enduro and trail riding, range is a heavily weighted deciding factor. That spec should be in all electric dirtbike comparisons. It doesn't matter how great a bike handles and how light it is if it won't get you around a 30 mile mountain loop. Range adds cost and weight in the form of larger battery capacity, but I'm more than willing to pay the price (in dollars and weight) for the way I use my electric dirtbikes (mountain single track, forest service roads, etc.)
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 27 күн бұрын
Thank you! Yes, we agree and also mentioned it earlier but to make sure the comment is seen: We only had 1 day where all of the bikes were in the same place and we were unable to do a proper range test during this shoot. There is a lot that happens behind the scenes on these video shoots that viewers don't see in the final video but there were too many variables to get accurate range numbers (bikes never being truly fully charged, constantly getting recharged at different times, different riders hopping on for quick laps, recharging again). That being said, we will be doing a range test soon with the 2 bikes we find most interesting: The Stark and YZ-EMX.
@spcneary
@spcneary Ай бұрын
Great review, makes me want to order the electro and co kit today.
@hainhatphung1371
@hainhatphung1371 Ай бұрын
The only issue I have is Alta Redshift. Buying that one, if I ever consider, is like being reminded of Harley's crime. They foxtrot the whole ordeal by letting Alta starved to death, then tried to acquire them with a banana.
@Corn-ped
@Corn-ped 3 күн бұрын
I think the big thing is charge time. You can bring the Stark to a track and charge between rides. The YZ you can swap batteries, but buying a second battery is $$$. I am half way thru a YZF Electric Build. Coming from a KTM Freeride I cant wait for the better suspension.
@jimji2774
@jimji2774 Ай бұрын
Great job guys. Comparison videos are where the most learning happens. I missed knowing what the actual weight with a full tank of electrons were for each bike and also wondered how much an original 250 YZF weighs compared to the Electro conversion. Would have been awesome to have the YZ gasser in the ride comparison too but that might be another video. Looking forward to my Dust Moto next year which might be more of a midsize bike with target weight of 200 lbs but track capable too. Thanks again for focusing on the electrics.
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 27 күн бұрын
We will weigh them and post in some future content!
@minifireant2232
@minifireant2232 18 күн бұрын
You r forgetting the Ktm Freeride, which is a full-blown dirtbike. There is also the Surron Bee
@robertandersson2523
@robertandersson2523 6 күн бұрын
Those are good in their segment but not in this company
@jetrep
@jetrep Ай бұрын
At the current sale price it seems like the the Varg is a the obvious choice. With the Varg at MSRP the YZ-E deserves a hard look provided you're open to a bit of a project. I was intrigued by the Arctic Leopard until I saw one in person. The quality is simply not there for the money. Ultra Bee quality is significantly better. Stark Varg quality is the best in the business. The YZ-E advantages are parts availability and likely easier DIY repairs down the road along with the slightly lower weight. I still don't think it's worth doing with the current Varg pricing. Varg also has a two year warranty that the company has been very good about.
@RMZ298
@RMZ298 Ай бұрын
If you do it yourself you can convert way cheaper. My 2020 CRF build all in with a 30 hour roller is just under $4k. The fab work is honestly pretty easy.
@davidawaters
@davidawaters Ай бұрын
@@RMZ298$4k? A decent sized battery costs most of $4k
@RMZ298
@RMZ298 Ай бұрын
@@davidawaters The electro and co ones are around $2k, you can get similar from Amorge for $1k or build your own.
@davidawaters
@davidawaters Ай бұрын
their $3200 60AH at 76V is still only 4.5kwh, quite a bit less than the Stark’s 6.5 when range is the limiting factor for this market. Maybe it’s the even smaller 48AH that you were thinking about being $2k?
@jetrep
@jetrep Ай бұрын
@davidawaters yeah I agree which is why I didn't even bother to reply. I ride trails. I need the biggest battery i can get. Absolutely zero chance I could build anything even remotely useful for 4k.
@jerkychew899
@jerkychew899 Ай бұрын
You can set the varg phone to auto-update the system and apps. It might help your issues. Also, it's an old version of Android so rebooting often would probably help.
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 27 күн бұрын
Thank you, we are getting the auto updates but still not curing all the issues. Rebooting!
@SpoonCan
@SpoonCan 5 күн бұрын
If it hasn't be said you can ride the varg without the phone. Just set map one to the hp you want and set the other 5 to the minimum. That way you can instantly feel your in the wrong map without needing the phone as a display. Doesn't stop the updates and updated maps when you do eventually dock the phone but does allow you to disconnect from the tech when you are riding.
@Evill-jh1yz
@Evill-jh1yz Ай бұрын
Wow, finicky tech for the Stark is the Achilles. Being light weight is definitely a plus, especially after a long day of riding.
@MrChadx1
@MrChadx1 Ай бұрын
Fortunately, it's getting better with every update. A lot of the phone issues Tucker mentioned were real, but have been resolved. The issue with the owner having to sign back into your account after an update (and unable to do so if you were someplace without cellular signal) has been resolved and is not longer happening. Everything seems to be getting the bugs worked out and fewer failures with not only app and phone, but with the early battery and motors. Risk of early adopters and first year run. This second gen seems fairly ironed out. By the time they sell off this inventory and do another batch, I'd expect it to be pretty dialed in.
@Vectorebike
@Vectorebike Ай бұрын
I have a good news for you guys, we can sell QS138 v3 motor for Yamaha conversion just for 499euro ( 549 usd), And if you need battery we have 3.8kwh 72v battery capable of 20kw power, just for 1699 euro /1800 usd, controller that we have with color display cost 499 euro / 549 usd.. so overall it's about 2900 usd or 3200 with FedEx shipping!
@InfiniteMishaps
@InfiniteMishaps Ай бұрын
Blown out yzf motors are about to get trashed and replaced. Yamaha needs to partner with them and if not. Predicting that Yamaha will have a hard time selling new yzf bikes. Especially if riders can just swap their existing motor and get more use out of the chassis.
@AWAG_FK
@AWAG_FK 13 күн бұрын
Great video guys! I was hoping for some mention of the DustMoto Hightail I reserved yesterday. I know it's a bit smaller, but that can be an advantage too. I'm looking forward to THAT comparison for sure. When it comes time to put the real money into the Hightail, I will surely take a good look at the E&C conversion options, thanks to this video.
@Surfratglass
@Surfratglass Ай бұрын
Looking forward to seeing how long it takes to install the YZEMX kit. I’d also love to see that bike put on a scale⚖️
@sdsuscott
@sdsuscott Ай бұрын
I bought the kit and did in 1 day.
@jimji2774
@jimji2774 18 күн бұрын
Haven't seen a scale number but they are claiming 242 for the kit YZ so figure 245 or about 20 lbs less than a Varg. Believe you can feel 5 lbs difference so that is a big difference.
@bwhaskell
@bwhaskell Ай бұрын
The result i would expect. The Alta MXR is still a great bike, and an absolutely bargain value if you can get one for less than 7k. The Varg is on a planet of its own though! Swappable battery isn't a deal breaker for me as I'm typically tired before the bike is spent. If Varg had a little faster charging it would be even better. Kudos to Electro and Co for offering a competitive option that slots between!
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 27 күн бұрын
Agree! Thanks for your input Bryan.
@bj97301
@bj97301 Ай бұрын
You should test the yz again with the that zapper controller. I think it will have more power.
@Kawasaki-KXE
@Kawasaki-KXE Ай бұрын
I think that this engine can produce 35-37 hp on a Dyno stand, no matter what controller is installed there
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 27 күн бұрын
Coming soon...
@bj97301
@bj97301 27 күн бұрын
@@ElectricCycleRideryus! Can’t wait 😮
@JollUsARoint
@JollUsARoint 26 күн бұрын
I left my first comment before the video was over. That's not bad for the conversion kit for the YZ.. if you already have the rolling chassis. That's not a deal that's a steal. Just say 8K I don't think that's bad 💚👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@davidmcdermott3415
@davidmcdermott3415 Ай бұрын
It's both funny and sad that the Redshift is still relevant. Mark did an amazing job with that bike and now he's helping with a new one.
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 27 күн бұрын
Mark is a great guy and we mean it when we say the Redshift was truly the benchmark.
@SamuelGunnestad
@SamuelGunnestad Ай бұрын
I don't have any issues with the phone/app on mine. I've had it for over a year, and at one point it lost connectivity with the bike after an update, but support sorted that one out quickly
@hornetutube
@hornetutube 7 сағат бұрын
Just by looking closely at the Arctic vs the Stark, with the latter offering so much eye-catching details and features, I just wonder why one would even consider the Arctic at the same price point? Even when looking at Electro and Yahama which are slightly more affordable, thinking in value for money, the Stark seems like a no-brainer. And Stark does offer 2 years of warranty. Having owned and loved a KTM Freeride E-XC myself, the now street legal Stark VARG EX, while expensive, seems like a step change in value for money.
@jetrep
@jetrep Ай бұрын
Seems I've been lucky with the phone/app on my Varg. While I don't love it I've not had any problems with it.
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 27 күн бұрын
Good to know. Our bike (and the few others we're around often) are some of the earliest off the production line, maybe something with that...
@MarkFries-o7n
@MarkFries-o7n Ай бұрын
Great review!!!
@MarkFries-o7n
@MarkFries-o7n Ай бұрын
I think you would also need to see about the local support for making that decision as well.
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 27 күн бұрын
@@MarkFries-o7n True fact!! Stark definitely wins there.
@SteveOMotos
@SteveOMotos Ай бұрын
awesome vid!
@Davide_sd
@Davide_sd Ай бұрын
Hello ECR, I hope you'll be able to get your hands on the new KTM Freeride E and its sister bike Husqvarna Pioneer. It will be interesting to see if they have different characters while sharing the same platform. Keep up the great work!
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 27 күн бұрын
Yes, we're scheduled to get on the bike as soon as it's here in the USA. Thank you!
@nealmathews2185
@nealmathews2185 Ай бұрын
Just how many different times did they tell us the Yamaha EMX is lighter , and that the Stark Varg is heavier … Yet never specifying the actual difference with a number. WTF ?
@MrChadx1
@MrChadx1 Ай бұрын
And, they don't talk about one of the most important metrics for trail riders; range. A bigger battery is more expensive and weighs more. I don't care how light a bike is. If it can't even do a 20 to 30 miles loop, it's worthless to me. I'm doing 36 mile recreational rides (single track and 50" ATV trails) with my Varg and ending the day with 30% battery. Love not having to drain it to 5% to go 25 - 30 miles like my previous electric dirtbikes.
@bayodome
@bayodome Ай бұрын
YZ-EMX = 242 lbs Stark Varg = 260 lbs in its lightest trim We did not have time to do a full range comparison. But I have a YZ-F conversion with a 72v 51ah battery (as opposed to the 76v 75ah battery on the YZ-EMX that we tested). Mine uses the Votol EM260 controller while the YZ-EMX uses the newer EM260S. My bike is pretty light weight at 220 lbs. In the lowest map, which is 150a, I get about 20-25 miles of range depending on terrain. So considering the slightly higher voltage of the YZ-EMX and much higher AH, I would estimate that the bike should be able to get 30-35 miles of range on the trail. Maybe even 40 in the right conditions.
@MrChadx1
@MrChadx1 Ай бұрын
Thank you @@bayodome! Good info.
@sdsuscott
@sdsuscott Ай бұрын
I've gone up to about 25 miles on my EMX on few hr ride on casual trail riding and I weigh 220 with gear.
@bayodome
@bayodome Ай бұрын
@@sdsuscott interesting. Could you have gone further? Would think you'd be able to. What kind of terrain?
@kevinveltfort5956
@kevinveltfort5956 27 күн бұрын
I have an E&C EMX YZ based on a 2019 YZ250F. Even with new lower price of the Varg, there are some important advantages of the YZ-EMX. First on my list is that my YZ came with CA registration and red sticker. You cannot get that for a Varg and that limits where you can ride. In 2025, my red sticker will automatically change to a green sticker and allow year round riding anywhere I want. Can’t do that (yet) on a Varg. Next up, is that I can fix or replace any component on my YZ. Motor, controller, suspension, etc. are all readily available parts and easily serviced. Also, not cheap, but there are multiple battery replacement options for the YZ and if I wanted to, I could get spare battery to swap put. As is, I got the 75 ah battery and range is not an issue for me. Lastly, there is that phone thing with the Varg. Not a fan of that either. I do hope E&C can sort out issues with the TruMoto Zapper, because that will take my YZ to a whole new level of performance. I also want to upgrade the motor to the new upgraded QS138 70 V3 with E&C rebuilt and hoping E&C comes out with an improved version of the Surron throttle, but that is for another day. Varg is super nice, but I think the YZ-EMX is my preference.
@BarrettMeeker867
@BarrettMeeker867 2 күн бұрын
FYI you can green sticker your varg or license it. It's electric so zero emissions which is what the green / red stickers were about. 75 ah - at what voltage? aka how many kwh?
@kevinveltfort5956
@kevinveltfort5956 Күн бұрын
@@BarrettMeeker867 I got the big battery. 76v x 75 ah
@The.JZA.
@The.JZA. 4 күн бұрын
I would go for the Stark Varg and I might even just get the 60hp variant since I have seen a lot of reviews where they say that 80hp is basically too much for any situation i.e. unnecessary and more of a flex than anything else.
@pauldanrich3919
@pauldanrich3919 Ай бұрын
Thank you Tucker!!
@mxstyles919
@mxstyles919 20 күн бұрын
So much leg swag. Great and helpful review. More of Bayo
@bayodome
@bayodome 18 күн бұрын
Haha thank you sir... whoever you are!
@christianwilliams1136
@christianwilliams1136 Ай бұрын
It be fun if you guys would do a review on the Lizcat conversion kit for the Yz 250 or 450. It is a bit pricy tho, but it looks really good once converted.
@crherniman
@crherniman Ай бұрын
I just looked and their kit is over $10k. It's nearly the cost of a varg without a chassis. I don't see any benefit to this over a Varg. Do you?
@Alex-oy6wb
@Alex-oy6wb Ай бұрын
Will Yamaha or Honda ever release an equivalent electric dirt bike?
@SteveOMotos
@SteveOMotos Ай бұрын
Iv'e seen the Honda electric bike. I expect you will see CF MOTO come first.
@SWTrailsAndWheels
@SWTrailsAndWheels Ай бұрын
Eventually, they will have to. Electric tech has too many advantages to ignore.
@GT-kt6tz
@GT-kt6tz Ай бұрын
Yes but who knows when
@JaneKLX
@JaneKLX Ай бұрын
If so, it will be a very complex concept with water cooling, ... The YZ EMX is a simple and smart concept where the motor costs 500-700 dollars. This machine is so simple, it couldn't be simpler. The purchase price is not important to me. More importantly, how much does the material cost for service and maintenance, how much does another set of plastics cost. How much does a graphics kit cost? This is on the YZ EMX side. I will buy everything for it and everywhere very cheaply, I will do the service myself at home. But Varg, Alta, ... ???? The new electric factory Honda, Yamaha, KTM, .... will be very expensive for everything and for the hobbyist it will all be very expensive.
@Yatess95
@Yatess95 Ай бұрын
It’s called the Honda CRE!🫶🏻❤️
@jz64
@jz64 Ай бұрын
The Artic Leapords are sick
@michaelreid9172
@michaelreid9172 Ай бұрын
Phone works fine on my Varg. You don't even really need it. It operates fine without but you don't have you battery level info. Also the weight difference over the YZ-E is simply battery size. Why no range test? The giant battery in the Varg is barely adequate for any off road riding.
@2wheels_2wings
@2wheels_2wings Ай бұрын
Top end has 400 hrs on it. 😂 😂😂 Great video, would be fun to do the YZ EMX kit build.
@DR-vr9ly
@DR-vr9ly 20 күн бұрын
I’m between the stark varg and the eride pro Sr. And advice recommendations?
@timgriffen5978
@timgriffen5978 Ай бұрын
100 hours on my Stark, never have I had any issues with the stark app or phone. So what’s the deal?
@federico297
@federico297 Ай бұрын
There aren't any big problems, it's the frequent small hiccups that are frustrating: sometimes the bluetooth loses the bike as a saved profile, sometimes the app freezes, sometimes it doesn't record rides, sometimes it looses the map presets, sometimes the phone just overheats. The problem is a low end phone combined with a not very good optimized app. I have a stark too, and i got it more than an year ago. Fortunately the app can be improved
@roadrenegade9349
@roadrenegade9349 Ай бұрын
Mine flies out after occasional big hits. Even after double checking the mount it doesn’t make a difference. Leads me to back tracking 20-30 minutes each time to hunt down where it landed on the trail
@Kawasaki-KXE
@Kawasaki-KXE Ай бұрын
@@roadrenegade9349 the easiest solution to drive without a phone
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 27 күн бұрын
Reassuring to hear you've had no issues. We, and several of our counterparts, have unfortunately not had the same experience.
@pete6152
@pete6152 23 күн бұрын
The Alta has a parts issue or at least it will have. It had a low production volume and current owners are hording parts. Varg phone; I agree. You don't need a ride show stopper like a flakey phone.
@daniellewis6976
@daniellewis6976 14 күн бұрын
how can you argue with the Yamaha platform... doesn't get any better. the fact the varg has 80 hp is kind of mute, no one can handle that kind of power in moto or off road conditions anyway... waste of time, along with the vargs other issues, the stupid smart phone, the heavy unchangeable battery, the useless charger in the stand set up... the Yamaha all day every day, until Hondas e bike comes out anyway...
@ovidiulucaci3531
@ovidiulucaci3531 Ай бұрын
what's the range in hours? or miles on mountain road of each? i want to use bike to explore the wild, not track...
@sdsuscott
@sdsuscott Ай бұрын
@@ovidiulucaci3531 I've gone about 25 miles and over 2 hrs on my EMX.
@hadesomegamoto7639
@hadesomegamoto7639 Ай бұрын
I won't touch anything Electro & Co sells they burned me with their EMXron kit. What about the Storm Bee? It'a fullsized and has swappable battery. There is also the Zero FX (with the chain conversion). I own a Redshift SM and I've ridden a Varg and Redshift EX and they seem very similar to me. But I didn't have a lot of time with them and not back to back.
@sdsuscott
@sdsuscott Ай бұрын
I had opposite experience. I bought their EMX kit and had small issue, they made it right and sent me new parts for free. Would definitely deal with them again. I'm looking for another roller to make 2nd EMX right now. I also have stark and the Yamaha EMX feels so much better on track and trail. Stark is fun to turn way up on power but don't really need it.
@jimji2774
@jimji2774 18 күн бұрын
I believe the Zero and the Storm Bee are not competition offerings so would be in a different category along side KTM's Freeride.
@hadesomegamoto7639
@hadesomegamoto7639 18 күн бұрын
@@jimji2774 Looks pretty competitive to me. A Storm Bee almost won Virginia City Grand Prix electric class this year also, if it had a 2nd battery it would have dominated, which is another advantage of the Storm is it has swappable battery packs. kzbin.infoHMco7WFLBLw?si=9vgA-VAUmBAs0jh_
@juice9767
@juice9767 Ай бұрын
I was Smiling from ear to ear just from the thumbnail 👍👍
@dukedynasty
@dukedynasty Ай бұрын
Besides the Yamaha isn’t a legit bike from Yamaha….but it’s time for them to get in the game and Honda to release theirs
@MERMBRAMA
@MERMBRAMA Ай бұрын
Best electric bikes for hard enduro. That is where arcric leopard belongs. It is not an mx bike. And do a range comparison also.
@775Garage
@775Garage 29 күн бұрын
The arctic leopard e-xe 880 range is 50+ miles in real world riding. Enduro and off road desert trails.
@MERMBRAMA
@MERMBRAMA 29 күн бұрын
@775Garage yes. 5 hours in extreme use, and over 60 miles in full throttle use. Was funny to see arctic leopard towing stark varg and honda crf250 from the desert. Both at the same time
@ElToroMoto
@ElToroMoto Ай бұрын
It was great to see a shootout in NorCal at Riverfront MX and Georgetown OHV! I really wish the range issue could be addressed sooner than later so I can ride an eMoto on longer rides or days at the track. Until that happens, the ICE bikes will have a place in the garage. For me, the sweet spot would be, at least, 50 miles of range at a weight of 230-235. In short, can't wait until eMotos can go head-to-head with a competition ICE bike. The Varg comes close and I really like it but it's not always practical to charge at the track or trail and the range is too limiting for all-day rides.
@ElToroMoto
@ElToroMoto Ай бұрын
Great job on the video guys!
@Tumid1
@Tumid1 Ай бұрын
50 miles @ 230 lbs. I'm trying to find one that'll go 35 miles ridden aggressively. 35 to 50 will be a H-U-G-E (multi-year decades?, orders of magnitude) technological step. Rapidly improving battery technology is the biggest lie of the past 50 years. Maybe?? your grandson will have that bike, but it won't be in our lifetime.
@Mauipat
@Mauipat Ай бұрын
I've gotten 70 miles on an easy ride on my converted CRF250L, and on Hard rides I get between 45, and 50 miles.
@Tumid1
@Tumid1 Ай бұрын
@@Mauipat I saw a video of someone with a 12Kw Ultra Bee with a 5.5Kwh battery barely make 35 miles in a not particularly hilly race. What are your bike's Kw & Kwh, & are you talking 45 - 50 miles in a race ridden by an expert level rider ? At 230 lbs you're back to riding 300 sized bikes & I 've done that & not interested in a 38" seat height for technical 15 -35mph woods riding. I want something about the size of an Ultra Bee (36" seat height/ 180 lbs) with 15 - 20Kw that can be raced 35 miles.
@Foerarn1234
@Foerarn1234 Ай бұрын
The single most important thing to mention is the range... Nothing else matters
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 27 күн бұрын
Reposting this: We only had 1 day where all of the bikes were in the same place and we were unable to do a proper range test during this shoot. There is a lot that happens behind the scenes on these video shoots that viewers don't see in the final video but there were too many variables to get accurate range numbers (bikes never being truly fully charged, constantly getting recharged at different times, different riders hopping on for quick laps, recharging again). That being said, we will be doing a range test soon with the 2 bikes we find most interesting: The Stark and YZ-EMX.
@mattcgtx4809
@mattcgtx4809 Ай бұрын
range ??
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 27 күн бұрын
Reposting this: We only had 1 day where all of the bikes were in the same place and we were unable to do a proper range test during this shoot. There is a lot that happens behind the scenes on these video shoots that viewers don't see in the final video but there were too many variables to get accurate range numbers (bikes never being truly fully charged, constantly getting recharged at different times, different riders hopping on for quick laps, recharging again). That being said, we will be doing a range test soon with the 2 bikes we find most interesting: The Stark and YZ-EMX.
@mv2woods
@mv2woods 8 күн бұрын
Ugh I hate it when people quote battery specs in "Ah" Such a meaningless spec especially when you don't know the voltage. Wh is much more universal, just do the math so we can actually interpret the size of the battery
@falcosparverius1
@falcosparverius1 25 күн бұрын
Please do a test on the street legal 2025 Husqvarna Pioneer.
@euc_bbq
@euc_bbq Ай бұрын
Awesome video, care to share the name of the trail? I'm always in the El Dorado forest camping with my bike
@euc_bbq
@euc_bbq Ай бұрын
Nvm I found it lol
@kingkong81icloud
@kingkong81icloud 20 күн бұрын
The Yamaha is the best
@douglasyoung3992
@douglasyoung3992 Ай бұрын
I mean noises coming from Chinese built bikes we would expect that lower quality, yamaha's chassis would be on another dimension
@Pandomar1
@Pandomar1 Ай бұрын
RANGE?
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 27 күн бұрын
Reposting this: We only had 1 day where all of the bikes were in the same place and we were unable to do a proper range test during this shoot. There is a lot that happens behind the scenes on these video shoots that viewers don't see in the final video but there were too many variables to get accurate range numbers (bikes never being truly fully charged, constantly getting recharged at different times, different riders hopping on for quick laps, recharging again). That being said, we will be doing a range test soon with the 2 bikes we find most interesting: The Stark and YZ-EMX.
@SteveOMotos
@SteveOMotos Ай бұрын
What city/state you in? You in nor cal?
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider Ай бұрын
We did the test at Riverfront MX and Georgetown!
@Brue58
@Brue58 7 күн бұрын
You need to get the gel seat covers, for Harley-Davidsons, I put one on my bike it's way better the seats are way too thin nowadays on ebayyyyyyy
@TheCiardellas
@TheCiardellas Ай бұрын
10:44 Rode with this dude at Carnage ⚡️
@BrawndoDrinker
@BrawndoDrinker Ай бұрын
Dang... you were in my area!
@kolopier
@kolopier Ай бұрын
Stark all the way.
@Alex-oy6wb
@Alex-oy6wb Ай бұрын
Modded Surron Storm could not make the list?
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider Ай бұрын
Great question and we considered mentioning this in the video but the Surron Storm Bee and the KTM Freeride are close but just not up to the task of real MX riding (without modification) - we had to test bikes that could handle it in stock form.
@Alex-oy6wb
@Alex-oy6wb Ай бұрын
@@ElectricCycleRider the Yamaha is hardly “stock” form.
@Ozfreerider_adventures
@Ozfreerider_adventures Ай бұрын
I’ve never once had to log back in to my stark phone . And have never heard of this happening to anyone else …. The phone charges in the dock so I don’t know what yorue talking about their either. . Worst thing I’ve had with phone is 2 tiles out of 40 hours I didn’t connect to Bluetooth after an update and I just held 2 buttons and did a hard reset on bike and it was fixed . I think you guys are doing something wrong or being a bit dramatic
@Kawasaki-KXE
@Kawasaki-KXE Ай бұрын
I also found it strange
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 27 күн бұрын
Great to hear you haven't had any issues. Wish we could say the same. The handful of Varg's we've been around have all been early models, so it may be something with that, but thanks for sharing your experience.
@JollUsARoint
@JollUsARoint 26 күн бұрын
400 Hours OnnThat Top End🤣😂🤣 The Alta got so much hate. When it first come out. And they went out of business that was a bummer. They were talking about you can't get parts. I'm not sure if there's aftermarket. If somebody was starting out I don't think you could go wrong with any of these. The Stark definitely got the hype. Over 80 HP that's a beast. And if you was going to do a electrical conversion what's that about 12K 10K.. I'm just guessing because I don't know.. these are pretty damn cool boss man 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻💚👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼😎👊🏻💨💥🤙🏻🤙🏻
@1sir-onworld
@1sir-onworld Ай бұрын
🐝🏁 Video 👍
@legenderekonwheels
@legenderekonwheels Ай бұрын
Storm Bee? Altis Sigma? Mototec Venom?
@hadesomegamoto7639
@hadesomegamoto7639 Ай бұрын
The Altis is a mini bike
@JoshStreetDesign
@JoshStreetDesign Ай бұрын
Lots of disrespect to the Alta. It's got 50hp, in map 4 it hauls @ss. Best bike I've ever ridden by far.
@The.JZA.
@The.JZA. 4 күн бұрын
Having a phone on the Stark is so dumb. I would much prefer a built in screen. It would be simpler, cheaper and more convenient for the owner and also saves all the added complexity of a whole separate device with battery, cameras, speakers, cell, Wi-Fi etc etc etc just give us a built in screen.
@Alex-oy6wb
@Alex-oy6wb Ай бұрын
Is it just my KZbin or are the timestamps wonky?
@Z0ttMonte
@Z0ttMonte Ай бұрын
I want to see a video about the new Husqvarna Pioneer
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 27 күн бұрын
We will post soon!
@asyrafnukman1991
@asyrafnukman1991 22 күн бұрын
Terima kasih video
@michaelsararas3261
@michaelsararas3261 Ай бұрын
Forgot about the storm bee
@Brue58
@Brue58 7 күн бұрын
5000 for that YZ, I heard it's like a 4:50
@ybuszone
@ybuszone Ай бұрын
Great video but how can you do a comparison and not talk about range.
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 27 күн бұрын
Reposting this: We only had 1 day where all of the bikes were in the same place and we were unable to do a proper range test during this shoot. There is a lot that happens behind the scenes on these video shoots that viewers don't see in the final video but there were too many variables to get accurate range numbers (bikes never being truly fully charged, constantly getting recharged at different times, different riders hopping on for quick laps, recharging again). That being said, we will be doing a range test soon with the 2 bikes we find most interesting: The Stark and YZ-EMX.
@joealesi9610
@joealesi9610 28 күн бұрын
Wrong again ...my VELIMOTOR VMX12 was in fact the "benchmark" bike❗
@ceejroberts8900
@ceejroberts8900 Ай бұрын
You do not need the phone to ride the stark lmao😂
@Kawasaki-KXE
@Kawasaki-KXE Ай бұрын
I agree, the problem is out of nowhere. Just leave your phone and drive without it.
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 27 күн бұрын
You do if you want to see what your battery percentage and power mode is.
@richkalbus4346
@richkalbus4346 6 күн бұрын
great video but elsucko lectro rap crap from hell music
@harleymcmurran321
@harleymcmurran321 2 күн бұрын
Electric bike are OK, except range sucks and a lot of tracks don't want to have l-ion batteries around do to ridiculous fire hazard
@marino4691
@marino4691 Ай бұрын
Can you consider manufacturing location? I only want to look at bikes made in North America or Europe
@jetrep
@jetrep Ай бұрын
Why do you need Tucker to do this for you? The list of bikes that meet this requirement is quite short...just buy a Varg.
@crherniman
@crherniman Ай бұрын
​@@jetrepDust Moto is US based and will have a bike out mid 2025
@bostonquad2068
@bostonquad2068 Ай бұрын
But they're nice
@mmig2116
@mmig2116 Ай бұрын
Don’t forget honda is coming out with one
@mid-drive
@mid-drive Ай бұрын
Developing one. Nothing planned at all. Not officially. At the moment, these are the only full-size electric MX bikes available. The YZ-EMX represents the idea of conversions across brands.
@bostonquad2068
@bostonquad2068 Ай бұрын
The dangerous part is nobody. Here you're coming. Down the trail
@hadesomegamoto7639
@hadesomegamoto7639 Ай бұрын
They'll see your dust cloud
@michaelreid9172
@michaelreid9172 Ай бұрын
My varg is by no means quiet. Only if there are other load bikes around.
@LuciannaRemis
@LuciannaRemis Ай бұрын
The reality is: if you're rich and famous, your kislux bags are seen as a sign of success. If you are just an ordinary worker working a 9-to-5 job, your real bag is likely to be considered the fruit of your efforts.
@tikirookie5810
@tikirookie5810 Ай бұрын
ultra bee all the way
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider Ай бұрын
We agree the Ultra Bee is a great bike but we consider the Ultra Bee to be a mid size bike, this is the full size shootout. Mid Size Shootout is next, stay tuned!
@kolopier
@kolopier Ай бұрын
@@ElectricCycleRider In addition to the Ultra Bee, is there any other mid size bike?
@Tazdeviloo7
@Tazdeviloo7 Ай бұрын
​@@ElectricCycleRiderDon't forget the Sirris upgraded Ultra Bee vs Stark on trails.
@AverageDaveVideos
@AverageDaveVideos Ай бұрын
@@ElectricCycleRider Looking forward to that!
@Ozfreerider_adventures
@Ozfreerider_adventures Ай бұрын
Surrons are kids toys
@violater7026
@violater7026 16 күн бұрын
So what should i get thats not the price of a used car….. makes me wanna just go with gas
@aftisafterme9736
@aftisafterme9736 Ай бұрын
All the guys I see riding electric bikes walk with a hip sway. It's worse than four-stroke guys.
@yamagrow420
@yamagrow420 15 күн бұрын
You watch guys walk?
@eBoard3R
@eBoard3R Ай бұрын
🤙🏽⚡️🤟🏽⚡️👌🏽
@joeyb3441
@joeyb3441 4 күн бұрын
The BEST? Well put, as saying the best out of a shite bunch. EV bikes are terrible and dangerously silent for racing
@Multitrash100
@Multitrash100 Ай бұрын
2t or die
@ElectricCycleRider
@ElectricCycleRider 27 күн бұрын
Hell yeah brother.
@ShelbyPaget
@ShelbyPaget Ай бұрын
Awesome review!
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