We Rode These 5 Electric Dirt Bikes until they Died. Who Won?

[@ElectricCycleRider]

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[@russellzauner]

embedded developer here - fuel gauge on battery devices is always one of the most difficult things to get right; frequently the last feature submitted/finished.

[@SteveOMotos]

I hope the dust comes to market being a true mini dirt bike.

[@SteveOMotos]

Another banger! great work. We need these bikes to do 45mi!

[@rwolfcastle]

I am so pumped for this! My favorite segment of bikes.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

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[@tigerrider6711]

Results 13:29

[@douglasyoung3992]

The Arctic leopard could never be my pic because of quality issues, the production dust motto will be interesting.

[@dukedynasty]

Dust moto just expensive as hell

[@HiLuckyB]

​@@dukedynastyThat's kind of what happens when something is made in America 😅

[@dukedynasty]

@@HiLuckyB that’s kinda why we never beat out the competition, also when we don’t use our own resources, like cobalt, oil, fossil fuels. I understand it’s illegal under this admin

[@jackbuaer3828]

With a 14 mile range, how interesting could it be (unless they improve that. Though aesthetically, it looks great.

[@bathtubearth8252]

@@dukedynasty USA is the world's TOP producer of both oil AND natural gas, , accounting for 20% of global fossil fuel production. Cobalt has to do with where it's actually found. Almost 75% of all the cobalt in the entire world comes from DRC, and another 5% from Indonesia. The fact is that we just don't have much here relative to other countries. Also, it's a byproduct of copper. If you've ever drank the water in towns near copper mines in Arizona, you would know that the industry is not good for America. This is a perfect case of drinking the koolaid then acting like you know what you're talking about when you don't.

[@Hobbies4Hire]

Great job on the video folks! Thanks for making it.

[@jimji2774]

Best reviews for emoto's as usual. Looking forward to more thanks much for what you do.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

Thank you! 🙌

[@ELECTRICMOTOCROSSMACHINE]

Killer show. Who would have bet on the snow leopard . My new 100 volt water cooled motor is finally done. Cant wait to see how far my new battery pac goes.

[@TravisNobles]

Dude I loved this test. I have the older electric motion, which gets even less range. I was thinking about upgrading to the new one, but honestly I might go for the Arctic leopard. I realize, after having built a few of these Arctic leopards, that their quality is really subpar, but I believe I could address that with some of my own custom mods to the bike... We'll see. At this time, I'm after that maximum range and a bike that feels similar to the electric motion - And in my mind, and having ridden all of these except for the dust moto, I believe that the Arctic leopard EX 800's ergo's are the closest to the EM. I imagine it would do well on hard enduro.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

Thanks Travis! We go into a bit more detail on all bikes in the upcoming video but you're pretty spot on.

[@hollowedentity7097]

I’m loving my ex 800. At its power I really don’t need anything more and I’m not doing anything wild with mine. Gonna supermoto it gotta source some hubs for it. Or find a compatible swaps for it. I’m close to plating mine. Just figuring out the taillight. Fb group says the wiring harness for it and assembly is coming soon but I don’t want to wait.

[@SUPERGOOSE-LLC]

At 20%, I'm riding back towards my truck. I've limped back to my truck with less than 5% several times on my stock Ultra Bee with it showing close to 30 miles. But 23 miles sounds about right for true trail riding distance.

[@AmpedRider]

Another fantastic test from ECR!! Thank you! This is exactly the category I am looking at for my next bike. Looking forward to your further review of these bikes. Please include total prices for the stock and mod'd bikes for a good comparison.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

Price will be a segment of the next video, for sure! Thanks!

[@Surfratglass]

Definitely an appetizer for the upcoming midsize bike comparison! ‘tis the season, and we’re hungry for more

[@MitchellCamps]

Thanks for this video! Can't wait for the Dust Moto to evolve. It is by far the best looking bike out there, sans the Varg.

[@Ebbrush3]

Chi just released a monster battery for the ultra bee

[@Tazdeviloo7]

6.5 kWh and stock lid. Imagine if they release one with an extended lid

[@JNacoustic]

​@@Tazdeviloo7crazy. You getting one lol?

[@Tazdeviloo7]

@@JNacoustic I have the eWatt 6.1kWh. It works for me for the C class hare scrambles. If I make it to B class which is a longer race then I'll look into an even bigger battery.

[@FilipeView]

Great video 🤟

[@EmotoOregon]

I've been holding out for 6 months since i sold my built mx4. It's gonna great to see what comes out next spring.

[@U43A]

Very nice video!

[@jamestowner2110]

What was your guys average speed? Awesome video, thanks!

[@soy_leche]

How did the modded ultrabee go farther? Is the x9000 controller more efficient? Since it's heavier and same battery and motor I found this to be extremely surprising.

[@JNacoustic]

Could be a couple possibilities. Could be that the battery in the stock Ultra bee just simply wasn't as good, could also be that the stock controller reduces or cuts power at a higher battery voltage than the x9000 does.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

Our qualification for ending the ride was when the bike lost adequate power, we tried to make it clear in the video that the stock Ultra Bee was reading a higher percentage, but it was going into a limp mode early. The EBMX X-9000 controller was not putting the modded Ultra Bee into limp mode, so we were able to keep riding it at decent pace. The stock Ultra still had a lot of "range" left in the tank but only at a super slow pace.

[@soy_leche]

@ thanks for clarification! Do you think it’s safe to say the aftermarket controllers are not more efficient? I’ve been wondering about getting one simply to increase range a bit (and the other benefits).

[@lapkazaika]

Got exactly the same on my stock surron ultra - ~35-38 km

[@OneSon744]

How many hours did the AL run?

[@TheTexasDuke]

Really enjoyed this video I need more

[@ElectricCycleRider]

More coming 💪

[@Mac_Simiser]

I am either waiting on the Kove or going for the YZF conversion...I will admit to being a reformed hater(despite the Stark deposit and the way they did things). Pretty excited about the possibilities. The Dust bike is SUPER interesting however

[@ElectricCycleRider]

Very fun time to be a reformed hater! Haha, lots of great bikes coming...

[@sfallier]

You have a line on an EX800 with the Tech suspension? Really curious how much of an improvement that will be - or if it'll be better to go with something completely aftermarket.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

We were hoping to try it with Tech suspension but it wasn't quite ready yet before we did this test.

[@jimji2774]

Sounds like the different controller on the Modded UB gave it more usable range but I wonder what that does to battery life ?

[@euc_bbq]

X9000 is a vesc based controller, it runs more efficiently by getting constant feedback from the motor through the hall sensors, it considered an FOC style of motor control compared to the traditional sine wave controllers. It delivers cleaner and quieter power making it more efficient, extending the range drastically

[@jimji2774]

@euc_bbq Good to know thanks.

[@stefan-ge]

max 34miles is quite disappointing. my light bee usually goes over 40 miles at easy running 12kw on a 50ah 72v battery

[@DIYracing]

I have 3000 miles on my ultra bee and I absolutely love it

[@Tumid1]

These results confirm what I've seen before. To go 35 miles @ 15Kw requires 5.5Kwh. I saw this when a stock motored Ultra Bee with a 5.5 Kwh battery racing an enduro had very little left at the finish of 35 mi.. I hope Dust is planning on such a battery because their idea of 3.5 Kwh will not make the bike desirable to the segment of potential buyers who like myself want to ride 35 miles with guys on 300's.

[@Tazdeviloo7]

eWatt and soon Chi make 6.5kWh batteries for the Ultra Bee

[@stupidmoto]

The new KTM Freeride is 5.5Kwh at about 15Kw, so that seems like it would be the sweet spot for a lot of people. Heck my 450 with a 1.6 gallon tank only gets 30 miles before the low fuel light comes on.

[@junehp3507]

Dope video but...is anyone going to mention the bird that came so close(possible bold Eagle 👀) because of its large body and white tail (time 11:49)🤙

[@cloudkmr777]

Why don’t you have a better battery for the modded ultra yet!?

[@ElectricCycleRider]

For sure! We ran the big battery in our Ultra for most of last year! The bike was rebuilt for some races we wanted to do and we needed multiple batteries to make it happen. Here's that video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWWooXeci5ZlnZI To be honest, we like the balance of the bike way more with the stock battery and now that we have multiple stock batteries, we can successfully race the bike and get much more range than 1 big battery.

[@cloudkmr777]

@@ElectricCycleRider Gotcha, that makes sense, it would still be interesting to see if the range is much better despite the extra weight. I hear you on balance though, I have a big EBMX battery in my light bee, wild how much different it makes the bike feel. But it also increased my range pretty significantly. Thanks for the reply. Come ride western WA sometime!

[@DaWiTtLeR]

The battery test I'm more interested in is how many charges can the battery take until you have to replace it?

[@mmig2116]

Dust moto has me buzzing for backyard moto ! Been waiting! Depends on price! Stark is now $10999 otd in Connecticut!,,

[@briandhoward6137]

Dust seems so far behind, I lost hope in it being released. Been a demo bike for over a year now. I was so stoked on it when I first saw it.

[@mmig2116]

@@briandhoward6137 I agree been awhile for production,I guess time will tell !

[@jnew3755]

Dust CEO guessed it would be 10,900 in Jimmy Lewis' Dirt Bike Test Taco Tuesday interview a couple of days ago.

[@burkaanc]

cant wait for new zeros

[@kolopier]

They are crap

[@kolopier]

The Dust Moto has new battery now right?

[@jimji2774]

Dust is designing their own battery pack with what should be higher quality cells and enhanced heat dissipation suitcase. I have high hopes for that bike being an early reservation holder but we will have to wait a little longer to see.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

They are testing several different configurations and yes will have a new battery - we tried to stress it as much as possible without being obnoxious but this is not the production bike! The battery they'll be using in the production model will be much better.

[@brock1732]

Anyone have any idea how arctic leopard is getting such good range on all it's bikes?

[@SteveOMotos]

low power

[@michealsikora4931]

Much larger battery capacity.

[@brianbush3247]

@@SteveOMotos I have an EX800. Definitely not low on power.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

It's got a big battery and the rest of the bike is fairly lightweight. We'll show battery numbers in the next video for clarification.

[@The_Privateer]

No YZ-EMX conversion?

[@hvac.animation]

Would think it's not in mid size category. Would be interested in a range test as well.

[@ElectricCycleRider]

YZ-EMX is a full size bike - this is the mid size comparison. We'll show range numbers with the YZ-EMX soon, thank you!

[@JaneKLX]

Nice video. Dust looks beautiful. "The Dust Moto Model_1 is gearing up for its primary launch in the U.S. While we're working hard to make it available worldwide, the earliest we anticipate international shipping is 2026. After the U.S. launch, our next target markets are the EU/UK and AUS/NZ. If you're in the U.S., you might want to check out our First100 Crowdfund Campaign to be among the first to own one!" By the time Dust starts selling a motorcycle, it will have long been defeated by Chinese competition.🙂

[@tomchan2901]

Why isn't the Stark Varg one the bikes to test?

[@Holeshot.racing]

because the stark isn't a mid size e moto its full size and would have to be against the artic leopard ex880

[@SouthCentral-re9bn]

Finally someone showing the real issue with the Dust - you can promote nice hp and low weight, but it’s not gonna go far. Ok it’s not the production model, but they aren’t inventing new battery tech. It either doesn’t go far or weighs more…

[@extremesurron9886]

I'm riding an em bike, but the mileage is too short, so if I ride it in the mountains, it's the same as r. xr is a failure

[@billcarr6289]

Wish you had included price and weight. 34 miles not enough to complete a hare scramble race but getting close

[@GroundGravel]

I assume you are all on sport mode?

[@getawaysounds2502]

Dust Moto !!!!! yay

[@Ebbrush3]

i did 71 miles on my Eride pro SS 1.0 with 59.2Ah batteries ( 40Ah stock +19.2 Ah in parallel ) Soon i will have batteries to do over 100 Ah if I choose

[@Lilbiscuit22]

71 miles of single track, two track, or street? 71 miles of single track would be amazing.

[@515klrkillahoobie6]

Build your own my 84v rules

[@eBoard3R]

🤙🏽⚡️🤟🏽⚡️👌🏽

[@stepan4eg]

Where is Altis ?

[@ElectricCycleRider]

This is the mid-size category, the Altis Sigma is a small pit bike and not quite in this category.

[@jay-by1se]

So Max 34 miles... At $6k? A tw200 is $4200 and gets 80 miles to the gallon.

[@rolandroland1485]

I mean how you making this video without giving infos on the batteries ?! How many volts and AH ?! Smfh 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@ElectricCycleRider]

Not sure if you listened until the end, but this is just one part of the complete mid size comparison video we are releasing next week, which will include your voltage and amp hour numbers. This is just an appetizer to that video. Thank you!

[@colesonfrisby4638]

Atlatis sigma ?

[@OtisFlint]

mid size? ew gross bye

[@ziephk]

what about the actual popular ones like the eride pro ss 3.0 and the altus ?