The Best Forza Horizon is: FH4

Was FH4 the best Horizon game ever made? Welcome back to this mini-series where I'm covering EVERY Forza Horizon to answer one question: which one is really the best? Today we're headed to Great Britain!
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[@joewatt720]

For me, one of the best things about FH 4 is how lived-in and alive the world felt. Even a few years after release I was discovering new little houses or back-roads. Edinburgh felt so lifelike and even the open countryside felt full and rich with detail. A massive contrast to FH5, which feels empty and featureless. For me, that's where FH4 shines, more so than any other FH other than FH2

[@thesprawl2361]

I think Mexico is just as feature filled, it’s just bigger so feels less full for some reason. But fh5 has so do many little nooks and crannies-more than fh4 in my opinion. Let’s meet back here three years into fh6’s lifespan when we’re all griping about it and reminiscing about fh5’s map 😂

[@epsteindidntoffhimself5002]

Fh3 had way more random houses, roads, and areas then fh4 had. Especially in Byron Bay and Surfers

[@DaMotoristX]

That's crazy ... Colorado felt a lot more lively and what not.

[@ilbroducciore]

I think we’re coming to the conclusion that - surprise surprise - this is a largely subjective topic :)

[@EQUAL2]

@@thesprawl2361 bro... its literally less full, you just said it yourself lol

[@edtierney6076]

A Moment Apart was our wedding reception intro as well, all because of Horizon 4 and my wife listening to me play hundreds of hours on this game!

[@IlMemetor72]

That must of been so beautiful..

[@HokiHoshi]

Oh that's awesome!

[@snfriedm]

me n who

[@thomasjome]

lmfao🤓

[@xerxer716]

I was a really socially awkward kid before FH4 but its the awesome map exploration, meetups, and festival playlist grinds with online people really helped me get used to interacting with people and being myself, so I'm forever grateful to FH4 for that :) The Hospital Records OST also got me into DnB forever changing my music taste for the better. FH4 is one of my favorite games of all time 👍

[@Red_Lion2000]

Check out Chase and Status and High Contrast.

[@R3AL-AIM]

Which is odd to me and maybe it's just this generation of gamers... I'm slightly older (20s) and found voice chat to be WAY more prominent back in the late 2000's and early 2010s. Motorsport custom lobbies were near close to CoD with how busy the mics could be. You don't get that in any racing game today. I met many people on FM3/4 and GT5/6 - whereas for the past few years it seems people are mostly introvertive. That's actually why I have seen some people shift from console gaming to PC for sim racing. The community. People who don't like playing alone

[@starry6996]

sameee fh4 introduced me to dnb music

[@Sol-hd7pz]

Lining up for 5 or 6 wide highway races with randoms was the best memories I have of this game and I loved it. Making it to the other side first in your own customized expression of a car had a fulfilling feeling and I learned to respect peoples styles if I lost in a way I didnt irl or in other racing games. It led to great conversation in dm's sharing ideas and learning tuning when a car beat you and you wanted to know what the player had done to it. FH4 is on the mount rushmore. P.S. respect to everyone who didnt jsut pull out the S tier cars always when they lost.

[@kyleswi764]

Just want to say, nostalgia will always distort our views of these games, I can remember a time where the majority of the fanbase was in discontent with Forza Horizon 4.

[@racdude01]

Yup it’s amazing how many ppl complained about the snow and the map and praise these features over FH5

[@ioverslept.]

​@@racdude01its always the negativity that is loud though. Its hard to tell how many people actually enjoyed that stuff, because they just did lol no reason to complain if youre enjoying it

[@koolmonkey55]

I always loved the snow because I enjoy rally and road racing.

[@xenokyomi]

@@racdude01 People do not like change, least not at first. It's awkward, it's uncomfortable, because it's outside what you're used to, you have to break your usual habits and understandings and try to learn something new. I mean, look at Minecraft and it's player base, every update people complain about changes, yet go on to eventually appreciate the changes with time as those changes become more natural as they go from uncomfortable newness, to the status quo. Plus people voice negativity more than positivity. Someone who's having an issue with their car will voice that, someone who's having no issues with the same make and model wouldn't have the need to say "I'm not having any problems." Thus it seems like there's more negativity and hate, than there is positivity and love.

[@gabrielsobrosa]

For me it's like FH1, 2 and 3 tried to convince that you were in a real world, in a real festival. FH4 and 5 looks empty because you enter and have to do the playlist in that empty world. Breaks the illusion as a videogame.

[@peugeoting]

People really didn’t like this game when it came out and now there’s a lot of nostalgic love for it. First Forza I played, and the central part of the map is based near where I live, so it was very influential for me and I love it! I think it will only be looked back on more fondly as time passes, I got bored of FH5 a lot quicker.

[@HokiHoshi]

Yeah imo this was a good example of people not liking the "new thing" until becomes the "older thing." FH4 certainly caught some hate early on but now it seems like everyone I talk to remembers it so fondly.

[@DrShwazz]

@@HokiHoshipeople often say this about every game series and it’s really annoying conversation.

[@kaiserruhsam]

@@HokiHoshi it would help if new things launched fully functional and feature-complete without downgrading a bunch of stuff compared to the previous one. until industry practices change every game, not just forza, will launch in a half-finished state and be worse than the previous one that's been updated and patched for years, but stuff like how horzion 5's online was at launch shouldn't be excusable. i'm pretty confident in saying the people who hated snow were a different group of people than the ones who said they missed it in 5.

[@Heavenlygamer19YT]

Nah I disagree. Fh2 and fh3 were the best. The sounds from fh2 and the map from fh3 that made me love em

[@HeadphoneMAN0017]

I assure you once the new FH release. FH5 will be remembered fondly for its great additions and feature. It happens in every release. Same happened with FH4, I remembered being hated back then. I remember when FH3 release and some people are not a fan of the direction compared to FH1 & FH2. On how flat the map it, downgraded progression compared to part titles, HW DLC being bashed, etc. etc. People are more vocal on the negative parts of the game when it is the current title.

[@Angrynood]

While FH1 was the first Forza game I played, FH4 was the first game I shared with a friend who also liked cars as much as I do (my lil bro doesnt count lol). We spent SO much time racing that we were pretty 50/50 in most of our races. This game holds a special spot in my heart for all the good times.

[@isaacsrandomvideos667]

Been playing it a lot recently. So so much better than 5. I can spend hours driving around, cruising. There’s so much more “hidden” areas

[@fontheking5]

Winter was really good in this game, if you installed snow tyres on your car, and used cars that could handle the snow well, like 4x4s, 4wd rally cars and so on. Being from Sweden does make me biased towards winter and snow, and since 1999, you must equip your car with winter tyres in winter here in Sweden, so snow tyres is a very big thing in Sweden 👍

[@WanganTunedKeiCar]

Ripping around the snow in an M4 GTS was my favorite. Nothing but the burble-pop of the exhaust and the crunch of snow under the wheels

[@scatered1]

Blizzard Mountain is way more fun than FH4 bland map covered in snow.

[@zfersya33]

Snow physics is fun too if not for competitive, aston martin + snow + uk countryside most bri'ish experience

[@epsteindidntoffhimself5002]

Fh3 actually had blizzards where you couldn't see and that was far better

[@PimpSpeed]

This game has a very special place in my heart. I saved up for months to buy the edition that would come with FD cars but unfortunately had to use the money for another thing. Now I got it and have been playing it non-stop for the past month or so.

[@pendremacherald6758]

I am a huge FH4 winter fan. Nothing feels cozier.

[@louislygo6914]

Fh4 for me really pulled it together. Great Britain may have felt quaint but for me it was aggressive and fast. The roads felt real and well traveled. The range of cars was second to none and a joy to look at as well as drive. I loved the seasons including the snow as it gave wonderful photo opportunities and a sense of challenge to one’s favourite routes. It felt natural. I’ve just returned to playing it after getting bored with FH5 and realised that I was never bored playing FH4 I only stopped as I felt I needed to upgrade to FH5. It’s good going back not through nostalgia but because it’s such a great game

[@TheEvangelion1313]

My worst gripe with this game was the car Sound that's was really it.

[@lxdr146]

Yeah it's pretty bad especially compared to FH5, which I think the sound is actually a strong point for that game

[@VulpesVulpes144]

Always loved forza horizon 4. My wife recently showed interest in playing (keeper) and now I get to experience my favorite racing game of all time with her with fresh eyes through her progression.

[@tomreid4810]

Forza Horizon 4 was my first Forza and has had a special place in my heart. I live in northern England and holidayed often in amble side, the town on the north side of lake Windermere, and around the lake in general. It brings back memories of my family and my grandad whos no longer here, who I spent a lot of time with in the beautiful and scenic green country on these holidays. I think the game gets near to real life in the way that the rolling hills make you feel small and look never-ending as they dwarf your field of view. The driving on the winding roads you find up there (apart from the fact that they are far narrower) in contrast with the fast and straight motorways offer so much versatility in how you can drive. In addition to all the off roading that is possible there are so many ways in which you can experience the game. I love the setting and location but i might be a bit biased. I wonder what non-british people think about the location as i always find that northern England and Scotland to be a niche setting for a game and can't think of many games set there. Thanks for the video and hope you have a good one.

[@simeonyves5940]

Just waiting to see how you are going to convince us of 5 being any good.. "Your mission, Jim, should you choose to accept it..."

[@omerozer9667]

Not all of the roads got covered in snow in fh4. Winter is personally my fouvrite season in forza. I love how roads get more slippery

[@xentarlion1203]

Winter was the best thing against cheaters (specially the ones with the Ingushetia flag). They where missing so many turns and checkpoints because of the speed they were going lmao.

[@blisterbrain]

Opening the video with the TR6 was an excellent choice. I really enjoy cruising this map in unmodified old sports cars. They may be slow but they're definitely entertaining!

[@xman777b]

yeah. Trying to figure out, how I'm going to get the TR7. Any suggestions?

[@blisterbrain]

@@xman777b I think you get it from playing the Super 7. They give out rewards from ranking up Super 7 in Horizon Life, so you have to play a lot of them to get there. Or you could always try the auction house. I seem to remember all of the Triumphs being pretty hard to come by, as I've only got one of each, meanwhile having duplicate Ferraris etc. out the wazoo.

[@xman777b]

@@blisterbrain thanks brother. Yeah, TR8 is in my all-time Top 5 cars in real life. Need to get that TR7, as it's the closest we can get. Thanks for the good info. 👍

[@blisterbrain]

@@xman777b Anytime, fellow enthusiast! A TR8 would be sweet indeed.

[@timberanvil3788]

I only just discovered FH4 when I finally upgraded to Xbox One last December...talk about behind the times. This game is a work of art

[@Sevatar_VIIIth]

How's the car customization in 4? Want to play an open world racing game with in depth car building but don't know which one between Forza 4/5, Burnout Paradise, or one of the newer Need for Speed games?

[@Lascko]

There's a certain feeling of nostalgia when thinking of FH4, at least for me. I've spent so much time drifting and racing, both online and offline. Not to mention how successful it was for Microsoft too. Love this game

[@similaritiesendhere]

The problem with the entire Horizon series is that they don't encourage you to memorize tracks (real racing). You almost have to use race lines and rewind to be competitive.

[@horatioarkas389]

Sunrise is by far the best FH music bar none. I struggle to keep myself from crying everytime. Even typing it on YT and seeing the first video got me bawling

[@RT-MIITHASPHALTII]

I really agree Most KZbinrs and other people have fully opinionised that FH1 was the best

[@ChaseDen]

I remember back in 2018 going over to my friends house after he just got the game and we were playing it for the first time, it truly is a nostalgic game for many.

[@Piotrix_SE]

true, still playing FH4 to this day

[@Kystican]

15:40 there's only one word for FH4's opening scene: tranquility

[@AnotherRalllyRedX]

FH1 and 2 will always hold a special place in my heart because I used to play them with my best friend in high school almost daily. He passed away right before FH4 came out and I played the hell out of it knowing that we would’ve been having so much fun on it together. I still play it and love it considerably more than FH5. 5 has a lot of good stuff going on don’t get me wrong but it doesn’t hit the soundtrack or the feeling quite like the other games did. As James May says, FH4 gave me the fizz just like 1 and 2 did and I’m grateful I got to play it in its prime. But I will say the Vipers sounded HORRENDOUS in that game

[@RidgeRunner4501]

While I was personally not a fan of the week of winter every month, I miss the ability to have a full map of snow

[@OmniscientDreamer]

I started with Fh4 and man it was such an awesome and masterpiece of a journey. There exist a special place in my heart for Fh4. The Spring season is the best I always keep taking neverending photos lol. Fh4 really is the best game for me and I'll keep playing it forever!! Recently I got Fh3 with dlcs for PC and it's looks nice as well.

[@RSans4210]

When this video series ends, we need the same idea but with all the Forza expansions

[@szymonski1905]

For me, this is the one I hardly touched because: I put loads of hours into the previous 3, ESPECIALLY FH3. This game didn’t differ to much from FH3 so I think I was just a bit burned out on the series at the time. IIRC it came out roughly at the same time as RDR2 and BFV which was where I sunk most of my gaming time in that period. I have been thinking of going back to it though, to give it a proper try. I lived in the UK for most of my life.

[@thomasjome]

you missed out big time. FH4 glory days were some of the best

[@szymonski1905]

@@thomasjome I may go back to it as FH5 has been kinda „completed” And enjoy the „new game” phase the most

[@TufteMotorsport]

Fh4 was jack of all trades, master of none. It had snow, but worse than Blizzard mountain, it had cities, but worse than FH3, it had more customization, but only for certain cars. You couldn't even change tires on certain cars. it was good, far from great.

[@liesideways]

You take Edinburgh over whatever there was in FH3?

[@OmniscientDreamer]

​@@liesideways I'll take spring and Edinburgh of Fh4 over Fh3 by a mile lol

[@RidgeRunner4501]

Idk if this is intentional or not but with these videos coming out monthly, FH5s should come out next month and then in June, it’s possible that FH6 might get announced, would be a cool ending to this series

[@solanine9205]

I started playing Horizon 4 right around COVID, when I was living in my grandparents' basement with my cousin while my family was getting our new house ready. By that point, season rewards were unlocked at 80%, a lot of the features were already in the game, and there was a community with a solid foothold enjoying the game. It was honestly one of the best times of my life, hanging out with my cousin, driving cars, and exploring the game. I had moved back to the US a couple of years prior after living abroad for 8 years and through high school, I hadn't really made many friends; certainly not to the same level as the ones I had left behind. Picking up the game and feeling like I had walked into a party in full swing was a great way to escape the real world and make some friends, even if that friendship only lasted the length of our drive around the map. To paraphrase the current top comment, the world really did have more soul than Mexico. I'm not sure if it's down to how H5 has massive swaths of open land that you can see right across or just a lack of buildings, but everything in Britain felt much more dense. There was a lot to see and explore even in a small area, and the abundance of low rock walls and trees flanking almost every road seemed to make the map bigger. I get the same feel when driving in the jungle in H5, but it can't quite balance out the desert to bring that same experience back. The seasons as well were always one of my favorite parts of H4 and I'm one of the people who enjoyed winter as much as or more than summer. I'd take out a tuned Subie, the S1 Quattro, my own Lola T70 tuned for winter, or just have some fun and try to keep a road/track car under control at full throttle. To me, Mexico's seasons just don't bring enough variation and it kind of feels the same every time I log in. It may just be that I'm seeing it through rose-colored glasses, but despite the bias that nostalgia brings, Horizon 4 really is the best of the series. Granted, it was my first Forza title and I don't have first hand experience with the other games, but if nothing else, it was my personal favorite.

[@RIANDOA]

FH4 nailed it for me. The setting, the seasons, the soundtrack even more than the other games, just brilliant. I keep coming back to this one despite owning FH5. I think this was my favourite one honestly.

[@FarmYardGaming]

4's Hospital Records soundtrack is elite, and the entire game is genuinely fun.

[@deno202]

Man I love Winter season in FH4, take MB or BMW with rear drive and just cruise down the road :D

[@mukulnag1578]

One of my favourite and most played racing games... The season kept me looking forward to each week ... What new challenge i would get ... I would change setups buy cars ... That was what motivated me to keep playing even more

[@Skydrag.V60]

Yeah. After spending a week in Edinburgh, I’m coming back to FH4 to help ease my Post-Scotland-Depression-Syndrome. Lovely country, and I wish I could stay there forever. The game really does a great job capturing little bite sized chunks of Scotland.

[@zboy1236]

it was the best for me personally as it was my first and I just remember spending so many hours just driving around with my freinds and completing forzathon live with at least 10 people. Backstage passes were a brilliant feature and made it actually plausible for you to get rare cars, the DLC's were also good. Although not the largest Fortune island had some great roads and the treasure hunt offered an alternative way to make quite a few credits, also it was quite nice to have the uk and recognisable scenery enhanced by the seasons

[@FFS-Vert]

We just need something between FH4 and FH5 winter. FH4 always annoyed me when I wanted to tune road cars during winter. But only having snow at the top of the volcano in FH5 is a disappointment IMO. I guess it’s understandable for Mexico though

[@pevangelista2779]

Loving these retrospectives. Each game had its moments that live on in my memory. Hoping that FH6 will continue the trend.

[@Poobtato]

3:10 You only miss things when they’re no longer around, and by extension the same applies to people, so show ur fam/friends/significant other some love yall

[@musclecarmaniac6914]

My favorite thing about FH4, coming from FH5, is winter. I love snowy roads. They're beautiful.

[@RedRidesMTB]

I set up an SW20 MR2 on rally tires & race suspension specifically for winter. It made ripping around the map a total blast. I hope we get winter again in the next game. It made racing lower class cars and rally racing even more fun than any other season.

[@hellisio]

My favorite in the series, no contest. A blast to play, and those seasons!!

[@deltanaa]

i still rly adore this game to this day and i’m so glad to see in the comments i’m not the only one who loves it the most out of any of the horizon games

[@3DKiwi]

4 is my favourite. A really good map. I maybe in a minority but the Lego expansion was superb. Doing the challenges and building the house kept me busy for months. I enjoyed that so much I reset the house and started it again.

[@joegarrett2005]

I need to get back to this game and drive around in the LFA, something about this game makes it feel more a live than Horizon 5

[@monapizza6085]

I played FH5 first and when I came to FH4, it blew my mind so much I really questioned the fabric of space-time

[@garchompy_1561]

I liked 4, the biggest thing I would say that brought it down was the lego expansion. the racetrack it had *almost* being brooklands was cool, but how much cooler would it have been if it was just the real brooklands but fixed up in the digital world so we could drive it. The lack of a lot of british car culture was quite sad too, some genuinely great and important things missing that still exist in their little niches in the uk, and the fact that the company that made the game is british kinda removes a lot of excuses they may have. And the roads are so wide that completely ruined the map, and the highlands is represented by 1 hill with 1 road that goes around it entirely. those are kind of important. you should feel like you are on the edge while driving british country roads, even in a stock hatchback, they are so narrow that a widebody aventador would fill the road entirely. imagine if they made a map in japan and the touge roads were 8 cars wide and didnt have hairpins or switchbacks? you might say "that defeats the entire appeal of the touges in japan", well thats the same thing with british country roads. the final complaint is that the horizon story "british racing green" I think it was called? the purpose of which was to teach about the british car culture and some key cars in it, well, it just got a bunch of stuff blatantly wrong, which again, cant really be excused.

[@elkristof86]

I think having streets that were about the width of a single car, while accurate, would be incredibly unfun for racing.

[@garchompy_1561]

@@elkristof86 you say that, but I think it would cause a shift in racing. how boring is D class? C class? even B sometimes? you just cannot race them on most tracks because theyre so slow and the roads are so wide that every corner is flat out. im not saying all roads have to be so narrow you cant fit down them with some cars, but there needs to be enough and in the places that they should be so that yes, the morgan 3 wheeler is actually "pretty quick". Remember the top gear lap where the caterham R500 beat the veyron? thats a thing. you cant use a 1500hp supercar everywhere and always be the fastest or have the most fun. It also would make driving those 1500hp supercars themselves more interesting because you would have to be conservative while driving a lot more, not just soaring through the map at 250mph+. The highway and similar "main roads" can be wider, but man, where are the country roads with danger lurking either side that gives you a rush to drive on...

[@elkristof86]

@@garchompy_1561 so if they had tracks that would be time attacks only (like the top gear track for power laps), i absolutely agree with you. should have been more clear in my first message. having races that have multiple cars on the track at the same time take place on tracks that are as narrow as british country roads would be awful. the race would either just be a parade or an awful ramfest lol.

[@ryanhill857]

I loved the snow i go back on horizon 4 to drive in the snow when its winter

[@riane3100]

One of the things I loved the most is that Edinburgh felt so familiar to me. I live in the US mid-south, a pretty temperate area pretty similar to what's displayed in-game, snow in the winter, stormy springs, the whole deal. Driving around the Edinburgh countryside just felt natural, whether I was cruising or hauling tail, it just felt right with the rolling hills, fields, and farms. I also do alot of quad riding in back country trails so taking one of the side by sides around the quarry area or anywhere else was, once again, a straight shot a nostalgia. I could never get tired of where I live (Except mosquitoes, ticks, and the humidity) or lived in feeling FH4's world. FH5 just feels so dead and unfamiliar, its no coincidence I spend most of my time in the northern canyon region of the map.

[@iddles2o]

I absolutely loved winter in FH4, it looked beautiful and for me the slippery roads just made it more fun!

[@rosestrohm7986]

I feel like even though FH5's graphics are technically more advanced, FH4's world is just so much prettier to look at and feels more realistic to me

[@LancerJak]

God I miss snow. FH5 is such a lifeless map.

[@flashbaxx]

Horizon 4 did it's online servers so much better than 5. You would open the map and find players across the whole thing. You saw where all the hotspots were in real time, and could drive there to find and join those players. It made the game feel populated, and it made it easy to find people at any time. Whatever server-hopping shenanigans they felt the need to add in 5 were totally unnecessary, not to mention they hardly even worked properly.

[@berkkarsi]

Wake me up when Hoki makes up his mind on which Forza Horizon is best.

[@jonathanwright7975]

I live in a place that this map features so of course i love it! I also think it has the most technical roads. Doesnt carry the wow factor that 3 did but its still my favourite or a close battle with 2... winter can be a struggle sometimes

[@StarryniteTrist]

lol i hear songs from Horizon Pulse on the grocery store playlist, instantly think of driving in horizon 4 lol

[@AshForza]

great vid i loved this

[@_ace8397]

for me horizon 4 was a game that i grew up with throughout high school. I remember first playing it on my xbox one non stop. I have a bias obviously, but the game did bring in life and allowed the ability to explore different options of play style (even if at times it did get overwhelming). Now I moved over to PC and got the ultimate edition on sale and now can satisfy that kid part of me that wanted to play the DLC. The most memorable moment from horizon 4 for me was the rough times in my life where I would just drive on the road and follow other players to de-stress my mind. This game has a community that made it feel alive and lived in.

[@SushiiiLive]

FH4 was my first forza and I think best. The seasons are the thing that makes it better than other FH´s. And driving in E class combi in winter is just so good

[@siiiimaa]

FH4 is my favorite by a long run, i just so much love the map. I dont know why but i just do, i just feel like in big Top Gear sandbox when playing, and i still do to this date!

[@TheUKMikey]

It felt more like a staycation to me. If only they were able to keep the walking NPCs of FH3 and the beautiful skyboxes. Oh well.

[@stephenwhitlock3464]

FH4 is not my fovorite horizon to play, but it is my favorite game in the series. I lived in another country for most of the game's life and playing online was how i stayed connected with my dad and friends back home.

[@thesprawl2361]

Who’d have thought it would turn out to be much loved? I remember NOTHING but criticism for FH4. Literally nothing but. I loved it, although the car sounds were dreadful. But the snowy season, with the cool snowy roads in the northwest, is much missed for me. The handling on snow was unique, just unique, and the people who whined about it are the reason we can’t have nice things.

[@TufteMotorsport]

However, Blozzard mountain had much better handling. I was dissapointed with the shallow snow.

[@elkristof86]

playground should have just allowed you to go into a solo lobby and set the season yourself, and then have the online lobbies be synced to the correct weather. That way they could have all of the season and multiplayer activities be based around the current weather and the players who just wanted to drive hyper cars around the open map could do that that on their own. Seems like such a simple solution to me that would have satisfied a lot of people. Shame they didn't consider this.

[@benn8793]

People suddenly think FH4 is good because FH5 is the new Low Point. Quite simply. FH4 was a step backwards, apart from the weather and the graphics. Nobody could have guessed that FH5 would take another step backwards...

[@thesprawl2361]

@@TufteMotorsport The mountains had that wonderful deep-pile snow at the top though. You can't have that everywhere; it's undriveable, and the UK clears it when it gets on the roads so that the remaining snow is just the kind of snow that was on the roads in the game.

[@thesprawl2361]

@@elkristof86 That would've been a reasonable compromise. But it didn't bother me because even in winter it was still only half the map that had snow on it. Too many gamers think the developers should give in to every demand they have, but when people want different things you have to compromise, and it's a shame people weren't able to see that compromise on snow was better than no snow at all.

[@eteklieroinman]

I think you should've talked about the drift road in treasure Island map. It was awesome and still full of players. On the other hand one downside of dh4 is bad online connection.

[@H2OFlymamaluigi]

I’ve been playing since the first forza Motorsport back on the original Xbox. To me FH1 was inside giving us night and off-road racing for the first time, and FH2 was where you could enjoy the natural beauty of the cars and landscape in Europe, plus that intro can’t be beat, I will die on this his. FH3 to me was perfection especially with all of the expansions, snow and hot wheels. The world felt alive, diverse from rainforests to deserts, you could build up the outposts, snowy mountains whenever you wanted, not to mention the hot wheels track. FH4 felt like a lot of quality of life improvements but a let down in map design targeting track toys, drifters, and super cars making the map feel incredibly small and restrictive in my eyes

[@RedVelocityTV]

Definitely my most played Horizon! I was playing it daily between FH3 and FH5. I couldn't even finish FH5 campaign, harsh to say but it felt like an FH4 DLC...

[@bluefish2303]

FH4 is my favourite by dint of the fact it was the first one I tried, it was based in the UK my home nation, was my first exposure to Xbox and it helped me get through the pandemic. I therefore had no preconceptions about the game, struggled initially with completing playlists but once I found a tuner that suited my driving style it became much easier! I've probably engaged with more game features in FH5 than FH4 but that is down to greater experience and confidence than anything else.

[@Royal23458]

fh4 was my first xbox game, my first horizon game, and my favorite car game yet.

[@tyon4187]

ngl, i feel like we disliked winter because that's where playground would put some of the really cool (as in fast and (or) grippy) cars/vehicles, and typically they wouldn't be ideal for winter for example, i think i remember the jesko being obtained during a winter season when it first dropped

[@BC_CARS]

FH4 was the place where I was top 10 in drag racing. Not in the leader board, from real drag strip 1/4 mile with someone running tail lights to signal GO. Someone always had an alt that had a summer season locked for the week where it was winter. Good times. Drag racing was my shit and I had some fast ass cars. Second cage Chevy nova and second cage fox always put in that work and had people floored with highway wheelies from a dig.

[@combatking9985]

I feel like fh3 was the best/most fun to me because I didn’t try to maximize everything, but be happy to grind for 1 or 2 cars then be good with it. From fh4 and now to fh5 it’s just so easy that within a couple of days I feel like I’ve done everything I’d wanted to do in the game(and may come back whenever there is a new cool car added)

[@-nkn0wn]

Bought it last year because it was on sale and I have spent hundreds of hours on it. It definitely has its problems but compared to fh5, it's soooo much better. The community is still alive and well and I love doing forzathon or highway races with randoms. This was my first Forza games and I love. I bought AC wanting a good realistic car game but was disappointed when I realized that's its more of Simulator than a game, but fh4 came in clutch and scratched that itch

[@babz4402]

this is obviously biased but I think I speak on behalf of the uk gamers, A massive charm of the game is just the setting. The Uk in general but particularly modern uk is almost never seen in games. Infact i cant think of any apart from fh4. Driving around places iv actually been and driving roads and motorways that feel like real life is astonishing

[@user-in7wn8bb5e]

Honestly the map is still one of the best in the series! I like that it is a bit understated.

[@waynemillard8412]

FH4 is still the game I play more than any other game, map was just so detailed. The country roads reminding me of roads around where I used to live when I first started driving. Loved winter. I can happily cruise around on here for hours. I’ll put on FH5 and be bored of the map within around 20 minutes. Wish they would increase garage space and livery space as maxed out both within the first couple of months of the games release.

[@georg-hanisch]

I kind of miss the ranked feature from FH4, but it was a pain in the ass to do the initial 30 (10x3 I think) qualifying races. After that I did enjoy just doing one qualifying race and then getting the generous amounts of rewards each season though :D I also miss the businesses, but the pay was so low, that it almost didn't matter. I think they could have expanded on that in FH5.

[@Vtoq]

FH2 and FH4 were the best! I was in middle school when FH2 came out and senior year high school when FH4 came out. Good times!

[@zodiac909]

If there ever was a "Hot-take" this would be it.

[@justinl7921]

I liked the winter season, my only complaint about it is there wasnt enough snow, it felt like there was only a small layer from a flurry and i wanted to see snow deep enough that you had to use a truck. But the online was pretty bad, i remember for like 6 months none of my friends or me on pc could play the game online at all. The pvp was ok just the team only racing at the start of the game made it annoying to play.

[@tturi2]

the lego land racetrack is my favourite part of it black tyre tracks on the snowy road like in burnout3 would have been a good touch of detail

[@rafahrynkiewicz8274]

I really enjoyed FH4, but what has killed it for me was Teredo. No matter what I did, the damn thing couldn't connect to FH servers, so no half the game content was blocked for me. I've returned to the old and trusted FM 4 and it's still good.

[@jackarmstrong7285]

My BIGGEST problem with FH4s Season was how short they were and unrelated to the outside world. When it’s the middle of June and 95° outside I definitely don’t want to play in the snow. No different than if it’s the middle of winter outside and snowing I don’t want to play in a bright sunny world Short seasons also gave no incentive to get used to the season rather than just ignore it for a week

[@deezmacnutz3400]

I liked 4 better than 5 & 3, even though everyone seems to say 3 is the best. But for me, 2 will always be the best, it was my first and I loved the map & roads. Wish I could play unlocked framerate on PC, but anyway, 30fps xbox one x, 4k glory hole good enuf.

[@akiro43]

I didnt expect the forzathon live feature to get praise. Everytime I tried forzathon live there were maybe 2 or 3 other people and those most of the time didnt get anything done and I had to gather almost all points by myself which depending on the task rarely succeeded.

[@jdxv134]

whenever this done i would really like to see a supercut video of all videos put together, thanks in advance

[@adamcako5281]

HokiHoshi some time later: Wow, Horizon 5 is truly the best! Can't take these videos seriously anymore

[@yovanilla]

FH4, without a doubt, best Horizon. From just a pure overall driving enjoyment perspective, I love the map, I love the seasons, I love driving in winter. If you didn't have a couple of winter-specific builds you were doing it wrong. My go-to was (is) the UR Quattro and the Porsche 959. And it takes a lot more skill to drive fast in the snow and ice, so, challenge. The map was the perfect size; FH5 is too big where I don't feel like I can really know it all and enjoy it without dedicating much more time to the game than I am able to. It did feel more alive where FH5 feels more like the background in comparison. I also love Timeless Radio, I would put that on and just drive around during winter week. Definitely feels like home.

[@rbmtopgear7682]

FH4 with FH5 n FH3 car list would be sick i would also like a highway like FH2 maybe call it Horizon Remastered

[@Sunified]

What i truly miss from fh4 was the psuedo endgame castles that served as a goal for a good part of the game for me

[@huyra8019]

A few friends of mine are working on a project called project fxa which will be a recreation of forza horizon 4s map in assetto corsa

[@ZealFork]

Epic video ! (:

[@JZStudiosonline]

The weekly playlist sucks for the sole reason that it's the primary way to get like half the cars in the game. You can't buy any Toyotas outside the auction house, so you have to wait for them to randomly show up in the festival playlist, which means you have to constantly be checking. And the playlists usually feature the same cars over and over, which I guess is good for the people that missed them, but not actually good for trying to get different cars the game arbitrarily locks from you. Pretty sure the LFA is in Horizon 4 and I still don't own one of my favorite cars in the game because it's locked behind random weekly challenges.

[@perhapsneel]

6 years later, and im finally gonna buy fh4!!

[@douglasklaus]

I love the winter setting

[@sleepynoodls4354]

I love both horizons but I only like FH5 more because finally there's a FH with right hand road drive instead of left... from portugal it confuses me all the time (i only played fh3 4 5)