The Best Laptops at CES 2025

[@JustJoshTech]

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[@Winnetou17]

Josh, at 0:54 you say Lunar Lake, but it's clearly Meteor Lake shown on that page. 155H. Are there going to be multiple versions ? Is the page wrong ? Or were you wrong ?

[@MotoM0nk]

are you sponsored by lenovo?

[@JustJoshTech]

@@MotoM0nk Obviously not, I disclose sponsored videos in the video very clearly. They had innovative stuff to show, so I presented it. Who else had a screen that expanded out into a 16.7 inch panel? Who else had a webcam behind the screen?

[@txkingg]

Lenovo not using haptic trackpads on $1.5k devices is criminal like on 9is

[@rokasmikalauskas3696]

it really is. I dont even know why they increase the size of it then - coming from mbp m1, just a bit dissapointing

[@ozy944]

IMO biggest laptop miss of 2025 - no Lenovo haptic trackpad #2 ROG Z13 with no OLED option

[@josephle2381]

@@ozy944Thinkpad x9 has one

[@ranjitmandal1612]

😢

[@adequatequality]

You can thank the ThinkPad old heads that would "crucify" a brand from following the norm of every other flagship laptop

[@yadindominguez1027]

Hurry up mom, there's a new Just Josh video

[@greentree4]

🤓

[@MarcoAshford]

Dad: What did you say? Who's Josh.

[@privateaccount5400]

Shutup you melt.

[@SagnikDasgupta]

You can peel the trackpoint from my cold dead hands.

[@JustJoshTech]

I love it. I want to save this comment

[@cameronbosch1213]

"Hear me Lenovo, you can take this trackpoint when you pry it from cold dead *Felicitations, malefactors! I am in town to find my minions. And I know just how to speak their lang"*

[@atrampabroad8318]

Surprised the Asus Zenbook A14 didn't make this list (I realize he made a separate video about it earlier). 2.2 lbs,

[@seth4321]

Huge L about it being ARM only. But otherwise a killer machine. Is it really less than $900? I never researched the price. That’d be wild.

[@atrampabroad8318]

@@seth4321 For a lot of users (office apps, browsing, streaming) ARM won't matter. Yes really for $900; I already see the 32GB version on Asus' website for $1100.

[@chris56269]

I was tempted but the UK price is over £1,000 although that includes sales tax. Can't justify that with no touch screen.

[@mike_abramyan]

No mention of the blade 16 refresh? Seems like easily the best laptop in the new "thin powerful" category seeing as it pairs the AMD hx 370 + high end nvidia gpus unlike asus.

[@cameronbosch1213]

@mike_abramyan this exactly. It does have soldered RAM (not a fan of that just to make the laptop super thin), but at least it can go up to 64 GB unlike some other laptops and it can have a high refresh rate OLED unlike the Asus ProArt P16.

[@pkmachinegun]

Honestly the laptop that im looking for is the HP ZBook Ultra 14 G1a with the Strix Halo processor. I think that youre missing a big seller by not showcasing that one.

[@benwilliam1010]

yeah, I thought the sane thing

[@bengabay3917]

Agreed

[@malte4793]

I think the slim 7i 14" version looks great too. Same specs as the bigger one with a smaller screen. Gonna have insane battery life with that 70 wh battery

[@errorcode503]

It also has a microSD card slot and a on-touch OLED display variant. Personally I'd chose an IPS touch panel because I've enjoyed the glass IPS touchscreen in my Slim 7i Aura 15" much more than my previous laptops OLED because it looks amazing, it gets very bright, I like the look of the slightly rounded corners more than the square corners of the OLED and the battery life is good regardless of whether I'm using light mode or dark mode or whether I'm displaying light and bright colours or darker and duller colours. If the OLED is as at least as power efficient as the IPS in the 15" 7i that I'm using the battery life is going to be incredible. Being less than 1.2kg as well it's going to be a great device. Perhaps the only downside to the 15" Slim 7i is that its 2 USB C ports are on the left hand side instead of being one on each side

[@rokasmikalauskas3696]

Even on IPS the battery life is crazy

[@errorcode503]

@@rokasmikalauskas3696 seems to me that the devices with IPS panels tend to have better battery life than OLED

[@ryanzhang6902]

Pre-ordered one, almost seems to good to be true with a lower price than the 15"

[@malte4793]

@@ryanzhang6902 well here in EU it's 1,4k and for students 1,25k wich is still a little bit more expensive than the 15" variant and by any means not cheap

[@ts8960]

I wish laptops will bring back the old keyboard layouts with numpad and full sized arrow keys that take part of the shift and part of the zero key

[@cameronbosch1213]

1:46 Sorry to say this, but Josh, you CLEARLY don't understand the point of the TrackPoint. It also is useful when you're wearing gloves in industrial settings. Add this to all of the other downgrades to the ThinkPads, and you can see why many fans are livid over these changes.

[@JustJoshTech]

I do get it btw. And interesting use case. If they removed it on all trackpads I'd be with you. It's one model that it is happening to. I like the variety

[@JT11111]

Theres like 10 different Thinkpads out there and one of them is without the Track point, honestly no one should care

[@cameronbosch1213]

@JT11111 Thats not the only problem. If they put this as a ThinkBook instead of a ThinkPad, I'd probably ignore it. The problem is that this is just another face palm moment for ThinkPad fans, as the keyboards have less travel, less ports, more things soldered, and less reliability than prior models.

[@JustJoshTech]

@cameronbosch1213 That is a fair comment. I think we need clarity on the difference between the brands

[@genuser9758]

Stans like you are just so blind to how narcissistic you are. "I have all of these thinkpad series with trackpoints. Oh there's a single thinkpad series WITHOUT A TRACKPOINT?!!! I DON'T LIKE IT BECAUSE IT HURTS MY FEEFEES AND THEREFORE YOU CAN'T HAVE IT!!!!"

[@zkdd23]

I'd like to see Lenovo Yoga Slim 9i in 16" variant and more brands adopting these small bezels. I don't understand how phones have such slim bezels, but laptops are still looking so old, yet it's 2025 already! I'd like to get more real screen estate in the same body factor and not these thick bezels like laptops from 10 years ago.

[@jccnguyen]

Me too, and make it sub 2kg please

[@FoxxFire]

I know you collab with JT. He just made an interesting (albeit sponsored, but it's still JT) video about XMG separating CPU and GPU motherboard components in the Neo 16, allowing XMG to offer more various configuration options. I'm not sure any other OEM has announced the top-tier AMD chip being offered with a 5090. JT says XMG will offer that config, and with the water cooling actually having made a difference in cooling and performance capabilities in the last gen device, this new one (with faster ports and a mini LED screen, which last year's did not offer) seems pretty promising for anyone looking to spend 5090 money on a laptop. I hope you guys get a chance to receive a review sample of that device whenever it might be released. Thanks for another great video, Josh and team.

[@JustJoshTech]

Yes i'm aware of it! I also went and met up with them (XMG). Thanks for the kind words

[@cameronbosch1213]

@FoxxFire Josh should look at the Eluktronics version, because that SHOULD be the same laptop while being easier to get in the U.S.

[@irrrrational314]

Hi Josh! I love your content and finally soon the time is gonna come for me to get a laptop for college this year! I'd love to see a video of you covering laptops that can game but also wont die instantly in a lecture hall :D

[@aurelian1]

It was great to (briefly) see you at CES! It was at Lenovo, so you were understandably in a hurry, but it was nice to see you in your element.

[@sherryp3452]

So much focus on gaming laptops when it constitutes a small portion of the laptop market. Please talk about the regular ones based on different budgets and users.

[@cantsleep463]

You're right that gaming laptops aren't the biggest portion of the market, but that's only because of businesses who buy work computers in bulk, to say it's a small portion of the market shows you are quite out of the loop. You really think you know the target audience better than every major personal electronic brand with their charts you haven't even seen? (P.S. most laptops you find with a decent CPU and an integrated GPU are probably what you're looking for. Buy with low ram and storage then upgrade it yourself for cheap ;)

[@emman100]

What is the ETA on the Lenovo Yoga 9i 2-in-1 and 7i 2-in-1 reviews. I am really interested in those two. They finally fixed minor issues I had on the previous gens. 😁

[@atrampabroad8318]

2:20 These are far from the first ThinkPads with a standard haptic trackpad. That would be the Z series, that you reviewed in 2022!

[@TheKdcool]

You guys should benchmark LMStudio, that would be such a nice video comparing different laptop in performance per watt with different specs

[@safidatboi1656]

Hi Josh, I'm a big fan of your channel and have been for some time now. I've never commented before, just lurked. But now, I feel compelled to mention a particular point about the script writing for videos. Often times, the word 'one' is used, such as at 0:48, where you say 14 inch one, to 16 inch one. The 'one' there is simply unnecessary and can often add to the confusion when mentioning models etc, as I've seen in past videos. This is such an incredibly minor comment, but I thought you might appreciate the feedback. Genuinely appreciate all the work you and the team put into these videos, fantastic unbiased content!

[@emman100]

I am looking forward to the rant in the next video. Big up. 😂

[@Jefore]

Are there no new laptops specifically for Creators, or must I buy a Gaming Laptop if I want to do video editing? I'm eyeing for the Lenovo Yoga Pro 9i 2024 edition with the Ultra 9 185H and RTX 4060, but I'm wondering if I should wait for the new 50 series GPUs.

[@HorizonOfHope]

@01:34 Dave 2D showed that the under screen camera is more of a proof of concept rather than something anyone could use in most situations. Still, it can only get better.

[@bhanusharma233]

nice video josh!

[@uditranasaria3760]

I got a ThinkPad P1 Gen 7 from work recently that had a haptic trackpad (but still had trackpoint in some fashion that I disabled)

[@karanveersinghdulku]

My fav is that MSI Titan 18HX Dragon. Man that is a stunning looking machine

[@Definitely_Melnyx]

Im just happy if the prices drop a bit of last gen. Still crazy to me that in Europe a Macbook m4 is similarly if not lower than direct competition. If only we had US prices as well :v

[@saturnotaku]

The Titan 18HX promises the best of everything. Sees Intel CPU instead of 9950HX3D. Ooh, you almost had it.

[@terribletimes902]

A laptop with a chassis like that Slim 9i but with Strix Halo… now that would be something

[@mahursa6391]

Well the XG mobile could have been great if it wasn't 1200$ for the 5070 TI version, which is more than the price of a 5080 desktop And also there's no point in it if the new thin and light laptops don't support TB5, which looks like they don't

[@cameronbosch1213]

@@mahursa6391 correct. They only support USB4, which is Thunderbolt 3 but without royalties.

[@theinktician]

at least its cheaper than the original, and compatible with laptops other than the X13 Flow

[@greentree4]

Josh can you please compose a guide on what to buy in 16 inch laptop category?

[@johnnykaram881]

Nice! Loved the XMG & new Acer Helios! What do yall think of the Omen max 16?

[@JustJoshTech]

Omen Max 16 looks very interesting. I think it will depend on pricing. HP have done a great job as high value buys. Let's see where they land

[@rickbelieves7652]

I have had 2 big issues with Lenovo. 1. The hinges break way too easily, and they don't cover them, pretty much destroys the computer when they crack the body. 2. Hard drive failure and again they just did not follow up and fix it while it was still in warranty. Never again.

[@StYfReX]

3:43 probably is using intel, due to amd not having better encoding options. Probably a laptop one person would buy to edit videos and game, so the HEVC 4:2:2 encoding of the intel procesor + the 50 series GPU also having one is a killer combo

[@BarryMagikarp]

I'm wondering if it's about wifi myself, intel wifi is still better than most other brands and oem's likely get discounts on it when they buy it with the intel cpus.

[@RS-handle]

test yoga 9i 2-1 please, specially the thermal and fan

[@shis10]

Video on Budget 17 inch laptops

[@davitdavid7165]

No such thing. I guess shop for something older

[@z4k1_zaki65]

The current trend of laptops are 14,16 and 18 inches

[@pranjay658]

i respect him as a tech creator

[@IvoPavlik]

Looking forward for the rant part 😁

[@levelupwithsam]

I'm looking forward to the rant :)

[@higochumbo8932]

A video explaining Strix-Halo-equipped laptop plans would be interesting, as as someone interested, I really have no clue if I should keep waiting or just buy whatever is available right now. CES has only managed to confuse me even more. (For reference, programmer looking to buy a laptop that hopefully is not a Apple and so far finding no competition for Macbook Pros other than potentially upcoming StrixHalo and Nvidia releases with unified memory. And how is no one mentioning the far less ridiculous looking HP ZBook Ultra G1a which really goes an extra step to convey the idea of "Macbook but with Windows?".

[@rhoderzau]

If the G14 pushed its air through the sides I'd be completely sold as I can't avoid gaming in bed at the moment. Looks like it may be the Flow Z13 for me, shame about the lack of OLED.

[@hernan5253]

I thought Asus Flow 13 also overlaps the Creator's market. It does have a touch screen, correct?

[@cameronbosch1213]

@@hernan5253 Yes.

[@michaelwinter5292]

Don't forget HP. I think the Zbook Ultra 14, this should perform at least similar to the Z13 if not better.

[@Avarent01]

Since when is the 155H a lunar lake processor? That's meteor lake

[@taylor-jc1nk]

really excited for the HP Zbook Ultra 14 G1a

[@agni1962]

Balde 16 is probably the most exciting portable gaming laptop this year tbh

[@JustJoshTech]

Have they fixed the ghastly keyboard?

[@tinybit780]

@@JustJoshTechyes

[@agni1962]

@@JustJoshTech xD apparently

[@cameronbosch1213]

@JustJoshTech Actually yes. It now has 1.5 mm of key travel and many people noted it felt better to type on than the previous models.

[@VioletGOKU]

Hey Josh, can you share about your observations on cooling technologies like Frore Airjet or the new Ion Drag tech, and why OEMs have still not included them in products already?

[@neilneilwawawa]

1:46 Would be really nice you would mention some things about the device aside from it excluding the trackpoint xD (including a maximum of 4 points is pretty weak and the keyboard layout is a downgrade compared to other thinkpads IMO) Personally i disagree with this take, if they were gonna prioritize the trackpad over the trackpoint, they could have just removed the trackpoint keys and kept the buttons and that would be understandable. This is an approach they've already used before with the thinkpad E lineup. Removing the trackpoint entirely is just kinda lame IMO.

[@htkaze6092]

I'm quite surprised to not see the HP ZBook 14 Ultra g1a in this list, as I my self am quite hyped about it, especially for work. It's going to be the best option for my work other than the macbook pro. The ROG Flow Z13 was also a good choice but the TDP at 85w was a bit of a let down for me, and I don't really like the tablet format that much.

[@akin242002]

Looking for the most epic battle soon. The Dell Pro Max Premium with the RTX 5090 vs M4 Max with the highest core configuration.

[@seth4321]

The ThinkPad X9 is obviously a branding mistake, but looking at the laptop as a standalone unit, I’m HUGELY interested in it. It’s probably my most watched product coming out of CES. I really hope you get one into the studio to test (14”). I’m keen to see battery life and also see it checked for high pitched fan noise like some ThinkPads are plagued with.

[@JustJoshTech]

I agree

[@atrampabroad8318]

I think the 15-inch is more interesting. You're getting quite a bit of add'l screen area and a much larger battery (80 Whr vs 53), and a USB-A port, but somehow it barely weighs any more (3.1 vs 2.8 lbs). Other manufacturers are going to the 16-inch size, which is too big for travel IMO, good to see Lenovo still making many premium laptops in this size.

[@seth4321]

@@atrampabroad8318 Yeah the battery on the 14 inch is a little small, and no USB-A is a big L. I'd probably lean towards the 14" for my personal use case as portable on-the-go device, however I need to look up the dimensions on the 15" because perhaps it's not much bigger. Only 0.3lb difference is wild.

[@cameronbosch1213]

@seth4321 this right here is the problem. As a ThinkBook, it could have been quite interesting, but Lenovo just HAD to confuse buyers by making it a ThinkPad.

[@theinktician]

@@cameronbosch1213 I honestly think the name "Thinkpad" is the ONLY reason its interesting. I wouldnt have cared if it wasn't a Thinkpad. Since Thinkbooks are just the budget range between Ideapad and Thinkpad, i dont see how being a Thinkbook would make it interesting. The Thinkbook PLUS line always have a over-the-top gimmick, but this one just.....exists? The webcam thing was something long overdue, and i honestly thought it had already been done. Another manufacturer will come along in less than 2 years and just make the same thing with a better webcam.

[@Djneil777]

no Lenovo pro 9i 16" this time around?

[@stickgs]

Are any of these under $1000? What's your recommendation for a good 16" laptop under $1000? Not a gamer! Basic jobs, internet browsing, Microsoft Office, etc. Prefer lightweight and all aluminum, as well as OLED screen. Thanks!!

[@BuddyQuaid]

@josh, if you had to get the best laptop for video editing 4k that has full sd card slot, with good battery and Apple and ASUS are not choices, what would you get? I'm stuck in analysis paralysis!

[@JustJoshTech]

Apple for sure. Please use our link if you can

[@BuddyQuaid]

@JustJoshTech if you CANT choose apple as well. CANT CHOOSE APPLE OR Asus.

[@LinL-c7l]

I'm curious about ASUS ROG Zephyrus series, is that worth it?

[@shabadvaswani5576]

Expect All laptop price to rise to more than 30% due to tarrifs

[@JustJoshTech]

That's in one of our next videos FYI. The one where we have a rant

[@ch19777]

Lenovo: look at our latest laptop tech! [rolls up 1980’s television screen]

[@watson719]

Hey Just Josh team, could you please make a video for best 3D modeling laptops? Thank you

[@glub1381]

The footage you used for the thinkbook plus gen 6 shows the gen 5 hybrid.

[@mariusmz4711]

I think that z13 is awesome. I cancelled my m4 max for z13 .

[@DallasDub94]

Please review the 7i Aura Edition 14" ASAP 🙏 Curious on battery life and thermals since it shares the same internals as the 7i aura 15" from the looks of it.

[@t.d.nguyen7688]

So after these 50 series '25 models about to hit the scene - Which' 24 In the $1500-2500 range, which gaming/workhorse multimedia laptops from' 24 w/power bank charging should I keep an eye on for the biggest discount? x16 aside 😊

[@soominplayrocketleague5449]

you need to review the new msi raider 18 hx of 2025, it has the ryzen 9 9950x3d and rtx 5090, with a 4k 120hz mini led

[@marvnch]

Lenovo slim looks great, but no haptic trackpad 😢 Would have been an impulse buy if it had one!

[@MaddoScientisto-fb3kb]

isnt ultra 155h Meteor Lake though?

[@riccardo393e7]

Cool but we still need more than 175w to the gpu

[@JT11111]

Hi Josh, super excited for XG Mobile review, theres so many questions to answer regarding it, will it work alongside my zephyrus G16s 4080 gpu to get an even greater gaming experience for example? I dont want to kill my laptop running GTA 6 when it eventually releases lol

[@ÖmerFurkanYalçın]

Today I learned Josh and I have birthdays 1 day apart (if it is accurate). Happy bday Josh

[@zaraboz999]

Josh, I don't see new 2 in 1 laptops with Intel core ultra H 200 laptops. With Spectre and Zenbook flip being discontinued, are manufacturers abandoning 2 in 1s?

[@ichschwoersosehr]

Since when is the Spectre Line closed? No 25 model coming? :/

[@cameronbosch1213]

@ichschwoersosehr They're all now OmniBooks.

[@ditz3nfitness]

What would be the best laptop from this year's CES if you have all the money available to spend if your goal is to have a computer that's portable and strong at programming in all languages, web, app, and game development? I'm a software engineering student, and the shitty Huawei laptop I got at the start of my degree is struggling to keep up with all the growth we're now doing, having stepped up from the tutorial level, lol. I have been looking at Zypherus G16, but idk if that's great since some say Intel is bad? However, I've always heard Intel was the way to go because AMD had issues with some software. I've always used Nvidia and Intel on my Desktop pcs, so I prefer that.

[@SonicMrSumo]

Another great vid. As an aside, and as a fellow Aussie, I've never heard "Oceania" pronounced that way. Is that how Americans say it?

[@JustJoshTech]

I thought that's how we (Aussies) pronounced it

[@SonicMrSumo]

@@JustJoshTech haha...perhaps I've been wrong all these years. I say it as "o-she-ana"

[@osark2487]

so lenovo made a laptop that has the outershell made out of glass? Let me repeat, the outer shell that is only there to protect internal components is made out of glass? What will be the service life on that laptop outer shell? 2 hours?

[@migueljardim8177]

Do you think that Razer will pair the AMD Strix HX370 with a 5080 in the new Blade 14 like they did with the 16 this year?

[@ichschwoersosehr]

Is there even a Blade 14?

[@Harris.azj.97]

I’m still waiting for laptops to have a true upgrade on their battery’s. I understand gaming on a battery laptop will have sub par performance however if I’m not gaming it should never be under 4 hours at least it’s pathetic laptops even allow this. One of the main things that I’ll always look for first is battery life in a laptop that’s the thing that makes it what it is.

[@worldpeace2688]

So with xg mobile, how much more bit coin can we mine?

[@leming3128]

So we are not expecting a new YOGA Pro 9i in 2025?

[@lentab7031]

Thunderbolt 5 ? - it was announced 2 yrs ago now..... Waiting and waiting for a 14"

[@shaun1900]

No mention of the Zenbook A14?

[@JustJoshTech]

I didn't think it was worth the list. I have a video out Thursday as to why

[@shaun1900]

@@JustJoshTech cool, looking forward to a comprehensive test and your reasoning.

[@davitdavid7165]

The rog flow seems ideal

[@TRaKLLC]

is xmg available in the US?

[@xmg_gg]

Only in Europe. // Tom

[@TRaKLLC]

@@xmg_gg damn, thanks for the reply though

[@deepu77777]

hey sir ,is it worth buying lenovo legion slim 52024 model over 2023 model for video editing and productive task not gaminng if not which should igo for plzzz replyyy sir big fan

[@RTR_43]

any word on the 14.5 inch yoga/slim 9/9i pro?

[@Historian_kid]

no mention of the hp omen max 16?

[@TheSilverSmitih]

Do you think there's any chance a laptop manufacturer will pair a strix halo CPU with a high power 5080 or 5090?

[@ichschwoersosehr]

I don't think that makes a lot of sense tbh. The igpu of the AI Max chips is so potent that it might straight up be on par with a 5070 laptop gpu. Maybe a 5090 would benefit from the chip, but the whole point is really to not need a dgpu after all with this.

[@terribletimes902]

That Slim 9i could have been great… but no headphone jack, and $1700+ MSRP from Lenovo 😭

[@gumball5837]

No snapdragon processors ?

[@TRaKLLC]

because the X series of thinkpads was lenovo's creation (i think) i guess the can do whatever they want with the X line as long as those T and P series thinkpads stay true to the thinkpad design philosophy, otherwise it is shameless masquerading around a brand name that people expect certain product features from

[@jccnguyen]

Since the max total TDP of the Flow Z13 is 120W, I wonder if I could use the SlimQ 150W DC power adapter.

[@Capboy98]

Asus viviobook oled amd s14 2025 new model lunch date when

[@alpacamale2909]

I don't use the nipple and I agree they're ruining the thinkpad line. Just create another line or call it yoga or something. They're just losing fans.

[@ranjitmandal1612]

Can't wait to see Xgmobile

[@pepejw]

dave2d did a review on the slim 9i, the camera looks awful.

[@nameless_stranger]

At some point, I feel like I'll end up with a Macbook because the gaming laptops in my country are ludicrously overpriced, some costing TWICE as much. Macbooks are cheaper in the high end segment in comparison to gaming laptops. Even though I can afford it, it feels so wrong since it was usually the other way around💀

[@hybridinfodesk409]

Question: Does the display really function as a display without a touchscreen? I wouldn't buy a laptop WITHOUT a touchscreen. Old tech. Changing the processor won't change that either.

[@terribletimes902]

What? Of course it does. Many still seek out laptops specifically without one as it’s just a hindrance to them

[@j.d.thompson3505]

My Mom loves your videos.

[@Flashylightsmeow]

It’s “champing at the bit” not “chomping at the bit”

[@JustJoshTech]

Just checked it up, both are correct ;)

[@NoNameChannelllll]

Why will most manufacturers use intel instead of amd when at the moment amd is clearly better?

[@yeahBradley]

Smaller trackpads are better!

[@EJG04]

Massive?

[@kudryavchik]

0:56 wrong specs

[@kriffos]

The real downside of the ProArt is the ANSI keyboard. For people in the US it's the default, most of the rest of the world uses ISO and will propably be torn off by this ugly design choice. Asus should just offer both versions. 60hz is somewhat outdated, but an ok tradeoff for me.

[@cameronbosch1213]

@@kriffos Actually, ISO is only used in Europe and the UK, with the exception of the Netherlands, which also uses ANSI. So ANSI, like it or not, is more standard than ISO.

[@cameronbosch1213]

@@kriffos But yeah, 60 hz screen in 2025 for such an expensive laptop is borderline braindead.