The BEST Memory for Ryzen 5 5600G & Ryzen 7 5700G - Frequency & Timings Testing

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@ZefferZeffer
@ZefferZeffer 3 жыл бұрын
That's one of the most aesthetically pleasing thumbnails I've seen. Wow!
@shivamsharma9879
@shivamsharma9879 3 жыл бұрын
N your profile too
@steve2709
@steve2709 3 жыл бұрын
It is awesome to see reviews of the APUs. GPUs are way too expensive these days
@AbuGuroza
@AbuGuroza 2 жыл бұрын
my rx 460 just kaput this morning, thank god i just changed to 5600g
@fynkozari9271
@fynkozari9271 2 жыл бұрын
@@AbuGuroza Kaputt is german.
@AbuGuroza
@AbuGuroza 2 жыл бұрын
@@fynkozari9271 oh thanks
@auturgicflosculator2183
@auturgicflosculator2183 Жыл бұрын
@@fynkozari9271 Kaput means something else in German, and they got the word from French. Kaput in this use case is purely English.
@fynkozari9271
@fynkozari9271 Жыл бұрын
@@auturgicflosculator2183 I can speak german.
@solocamo3654
@solocamo3654 3 жыл бұрын
Vega is just the last version of GCN which started back with the 7970. Really has stood the test of time. My uv & oc'ed Radeon VII really has held up.
@kuekejuu5057
@kuekejuu5057 3 жыл бұрын
considering the fact that increasing memory bandwith resulting in almost linear performance uplift, i think why they still use vega until now is because ddr4 memory cant keep up with higher performance igpu. things might change when ddr5 hit the market, and become common, then maybe we'll starting to see higher performance navi igpu.
@NickChapmanThe
@NickChapmanThe 3 жыл бұрын
I think the argument is that they could use a newer architecture like RDNA one or RDNA2 with no RT tech to use less CUs and get the same performance as Vega with 7 or 8 CUs. But, faster memory would be required no feed more CUs... Or on board memory!
@AnTran147
@AnTran147 3 жыл бұрын
It would seem the Steam Deck is proof of that, as it's RDNA2 iGPU is paired with LPDDR5.
@jochenkraus7016
@jochenkraus7016 3 жыл бұрын
Could the 3D cache (or how it's called) replace some memory bandwidth like the Infinity Cache?
@davideloi9176
@davideloi9176 3 жыл бұрын
Well said. infact the newly introduced ryzen 6000 for laptops use rdna2 for the graphics part and suppory/require ddr5 memory.
@thomaslayman9487
@thomaslayman9487 2 жыл бұрын
this man just predicted the future
@RobertOortwijn
@RobertOortwijn 3 жыл бұрын
Looking health Eber! Much love :)
@bertnijhof5413
@bertnijhof5413 3 жыл бұрын
Useful video, it saves me money to see, that an upgrade of memory from my current 3000 MHz to 3600 MHz will not bring very much. My Ryzen 3 2200G in Apr 2019 was a cost-effective solution with its $97 and its max 2933MHz DDR4. The 5600G is NOT a cost-effective solution for non-gaming users. I consider upgrading to a 4600G or 5600G in 1 to 2 years, when the prices (2nd hand) drop say $100 to significantly below $200. I think I have a good chance after the introduction of AM5 and DDR5 in 2022/23 :)
@MasterHomebrew
@MasterHomebrew 3 жыл бұрын
You're very articulate and easy to listen too. A good presentation with good info which is unlike some others I see who talk so fast and throw so much info at you it's hard to try and even keep up with what they are saying before they move on to something else. Thank you!
@MysteicVoltronus
@MysteicVoltronus 3 жыл бұрын
For the timing section, I think you mean a "meaningful" change instead of a "measurable" change as you numbers showed that you measured a small change.
@IcebergTech
@IcebergTech 3 жыл бұрын
Great timing! I'm benchmarking a 4350G right now with some cheap DDR4-4000 and am about to start playing with the timings, it's good to have some data to refer to here 🙂
@coopercoldwell
@coopercoldwell 3 жыл бұрын
I’d be interested to see a 4000G series with different memory timings since 4000G has a much better memory controller than 5000
@selohcin
@selohcin 3 жыл бұрын
"Cheap" DDR4 4000 LOL
@IcebergTech
@IcebergTech 3 жыл бұрын
@@selohcin yeah, a random unheard-of brand ("V-Color") was selling 16gb kits of DDR4-4000 for £75 on Amazon a couple of weeks ago
@J_J_B_B
@J_J_B_B 2 жыл бұрын
@@selohcin you can easily get 16GB 4000mhz for 90 bucks or less
@TheSilviu8x
@TheSilviu8x 3 жыл бұрын
I was under the impression that the older Apu's where more affected by the timings, than the speed. It's nice to see the direction that AMD takes, with those new ones. They became more GPU than apu, as gddr ram has much worse timings and latency, but stupid fast clocks. This pretty much describe the gddr5 ram also.. I just wish they use more CU, as there's no replacement for displacement!
@carisi2k11
@carisi2k11 3 жыл бұрын
and RDNA2 instead of vega graphics.
@robertthompson7242
@robertthompson7242 3 жыл бұрын
@@carisi2k11 Polaris was 28nm, and barely broke 1200Mhz. The 64-core Vega 10 chip was 14nm, and barely exceeded 1400Mhz. It also had a 4096-bit bus, which ought to have made up for the speed, but didn't. The Vega 20 was 7nm, but with 60 cores, you should have gotten more out of it. But, the on-chip Vega ditched the HBM2 controller years ago; I am running Vega 8 at 2100 Mhz, for hours, without a problem. I looked at the clocks on RDNA 1; the Vega cores since Zen 2 have been faster than the discreet cards for RDNA 1. I think they completely re-engineered Vega in the move to TSMC's 7nm process.
@gioac96
@gioac96 3 жыл бұрын
I’m currently trying to build a ryzen apu system, and this video really clarified a few doubts I had about the impact of memory speeds on performance. I have to say, I’m still a bit disappointed that you didn’t show how memory speed affects cpu bound tasks, but you still earned a sub today 😊
@Alfonsovice
@Alfonsovice 3 жыл бұрын
the saund and the lightin of your videos is great, is pleasent to watch
@MyReviews_karkan
@MyReviews_karkan Жыл бұрын
I have read your mind. I just built a PC yesterday, and got this CPU and paired it with 16GB DDR4 3200. It plays everything I play just fine. Nothing major, but I only emulate on the PC and it works flawlessly
@rubikazariah
@rubikazariah 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how these CPUs and integrated graphics work when it comes to video rendering tasks. Would be nice if you could cover that aspect too when talking about integrated graphics and graphic cards, especially for casual gamers who do the occasional video rendering as well for work. Love how Eber signs off with saying you should spend responsibly ;) nice touch.
@zonto22
@zonto22 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. This is the second video on KZbin now that has analyzed memory speeds and timing on the new AMD APUs that has only tested gaming performance. Please show rendering and general productivity benchmark differences as well!
@GB-zi6qr
@GB-zi6qr 3 жыл бұрын
I understand your question. From watching Gamers Nexus, Hardware Unboxed and AHCO, I'm left with the opinion that integrated graphics can do video rendering...it's just going to take a long time to perform the task. A 1660 would be faster than igp's. Just my .02c.
@rubikazariah
@rubikazariah 3 жыл бұрын
@@GB-zi6qr Thanks. I thought it might already be on par with a 1550 - 1660. 🤔
@GB-zi6qr
@GB-zi6qr 3 жыл бұрын
@@rubikazariah don't bet on it. I'm thinking dram isn't the same as vram. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
@JAFFER3657
@JAFFER3657 3 жыл бұрын
@@rubikazariah On par with probably GT 1030 or GTX 750 but 1050s+ are better cards than Vega lineup.
@JayzBeerz
@JayzBeerz 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a kit of Samsung B-die 3200 CL14 and I clocked to 4000 CL17 and it's stable. Samsung B-die is the best RAM you can buy still in 2021.
@oscarmorales-cn3hz
@oscarmorales-cn3hz 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, what motherboard do you have? Thanks!
@dupajasio4801
@dupajasio4801 2 жыл бұрын
November 2022. Got 5700G at work. I'm in IT. Absolutely love it. Btw most of my IT team runs AMD at home. And yes, I found this very helpful Thx
@gomogr5255
@gomogr5255 3 жыл бұрын
That thumbnail is awesome
@jaycray97
@jaycray97 3 жыл бұрын
5000g chips and motherboards going on sale rn, just picked up a 5600g and motherboard combo for $310ish for my little brother for Christmas :)
@lencarter1460
@lencarter1460 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent and informative! Thanks again for another great video
@ReauDog
@ReauDog 2 жыл бұрын
Short answer: 3200mhz CL16 You're welcome.
@ramonrocha4832
@ramonrocha4832 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely subbing after this video
@j.lietka9406
@j.lietka9406 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great info! I would like to see the 5600G (or the 5650G) paired with 3200 speed RAM, but with a variety of applications. 🤓
@marcc5768
@marcc5768 3 жыл бұрын
Hardware Unboxed did something l like that recently. Ram scaling for the 5600g and 5700g with 1/2 a dozen different RAM kits.
@j.lietka9406
@j.lietka9406 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcc5768 cool thanks. Plan on getting the 5600G as the 5700G is out of my PC build budget! 🤓
@j.lietka9406
@j.lietka9406 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcc5768 I read a post on line, where several top brands of RAM were tested. The ones tested were all 3200 speed, which, for my PC budget, is what I will go for!
@marcc5768
@marcc5768 3 жыл бұрын
@@j.lietka9406 try to get CL 14 or CL 16 for best results. CL 14 might be a bit more but worth it for performance. Don't do beyond CL 16
@j.lietka9406
@j.lietka9406 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcc5768 ok thank you!
@BrainDesmo
@BrainDesmo 3 жыл бұрын
Eber, ty much for the detailed overview. I was wondering if dual-rank can be a factor? Ty.
@AnantGupta02
@AnantGupta02 3 жыл бұрын
yes, but if your mem clock is high enough, dual rank doesn't really matter.
@rotaxt5411
@rotaxt5411 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it definitely does since running dual channel ram will effectively double the memory bandwith. A dual channel 8x2 2400mhz kit will easily beat a single channel 16x1 3200mhz stick in these scenarios
@AnantGupta02
@AnantGupta02 3 жыл бұрын
dual channel /= dual rank
@rotaxt5411
@rotaxt5411 3 жыл бұрын
@@AnantGupta02 Sorry my bad
@georgemartinezza
@georgemartinezza 3 жыл бұрын
you won't notice the difference, you won't notice performance difference between dual rank dimm or single rank. the difference is shown in numbers, in charts of tests, in micro numbers and ultra speeds that you won't notice. even your same New pc with 2x16 RAM single rank 3200MHz will give you different values in Forza Horizon running the test four times, Cinebench will give you different results running it two times in a day for five days. (even so being the same new pc without any usage more than the tests). a lot of youtubers show the benchmark results of blender or tomb rider... *how many times the test was ran to post the result?* of course, this channel is reliable and trusted, real ! not as other fake anonymous without any proof that shows the have made the tests (benchmark, pc benchmark, testing games....)
@Neopulse00
@Neopulse00 3 жыл бұрын
I really needed this video. I am on the fence with getting the 5700G or waiting for the possible 6800G/6900G successors. Edit: In the end decided on waiting for Q1 2022 for the Rembrandt APUs. They are going to be much better in comparison to the 5700G. The Steam Deck was a good indication of this including the leaked roadmap.
@deanj6722
@deanj6722 3 жыл бұрын
Are they really coming in q1?
@Asmadeuss
@Asmadeuss 3 жыл бұрын
Rembrandt is canceled, wait until 3-4 q 2022 for raphael
@shayan4849
@shayan4849 3 жыл бұрын
Yes the 6XXXG series would likely see a huge improvement in the graphics segment cause of new DRNA 2 architecture and DDR5 and it might have the Navi graphics which are much better than Vega. I am also waiting for that series to get started with my pc building!
@emersonmatheus8611
@emersonmatheus8611 3 жыл бұрын
@Viztiz what a joke, ryzen 6000 will pair with ddr5 up to 12000 mhz speeds, it will proly reach mid end gpus like gtx1660, thats why amd ended making low and mid end gpus.
@rebelprime
@rebelprime 3 жыл бұрын
@@emersonmatheus8611 don't choke on your own hope lol
@emmanuelrodriguez1043
@emmanuelrodriguez1043 Жыл бұрын
Great video and a lot of time and effort put into it! Thanks 💪
@IrelandVonVicious
@IrelandVonVicious 3 жыл бұрын
Before the video I figured 3200 average timings. After the video it was still 3200 average timings. Amazing!
@Michael-OBrien
@Michael-OBrien Жыл бұрын
Late to the party, but I have a 2x 32 kit OC’d to 4000 MT/s. I’ve been curious as to how this memory would perform on the 5700G. Thank you, fellas!
@jmac79ers
@jmac79ers 3 жыл бұрын
thanks alot for this, very clear and informative. I decided to order a 5600g and 2x8gb crucial ballistix 3600 cl16. Not trying to go all out, but wanted to be middle of the road kinda thing, while watching the budget. Either way, it's going to be leaps and bounds above my current 1090T with 8bg gskill 1600.
@anonymousinc6330
@anonymousinc6330 4 ай бұрын
Thanks, was sweating this after snagging a 5600G for a build for a friend (already have 2x16 Ballistix 3600 matched for the 3600X that was previously on the AsRock B450M-HDV R4.0 board). Sounds like I'm already set up with one of the best options, and if the board allows for overclocking the CPU and iGPU, this thing should SCREAM.
@13thzephyr
@13thzephyr 3 жыл бұрын
This is really appreciated since I'm considering going to a even smaller ITX case without a dedicated GPU.
@scottschmidt9292
@scottschmidt9292 3 жыл бұрын
Get the $125 G.skill flare X, Bump the voltage to 1.45V, and the frequency to 3600 You'll be able to keep the 14-14-14-34 timings, and it's much cheaper than most other good kits.
@ComputersAre8ad
@ComputersAre8ad 3 жыл бұрын
Patriot steel viper has a 4400cl19 16gb kit for $115 that will under clock and produce very tight timings... Samsung b die ICs are the best memory modules available currently.
@jvtrevisan
@jvtrevisan 3 жыл бұрын
@@ComputersAre8ad how can I know which brands modules have this samsung ICs?
@federicoortiz2868
@federicoortiz2868 3 жыл бұрын
The aesthetics of this video are so pleasing!
@Wollmütze-l5w
@Wollmütze-l5w 2 жыл бұрын
I did today (January 2023) a test with a game. The latency is by far the most important for the Ryzen 5700G as swift clock speeds. With the RAM speed set to 2733 Mhz and timings of 20 19 19 I get with the same game between 65 fps to 112 fps. All other settings on auto. It never passed that fps. With the same RAM (lowest is rated for 2400 MT/S and the other is rated for 3000 MT/S) set at auto it runs at 2400 Mhz and it's timings are according to the UEFI (Asus Prime B450M-A II) at 17 17 17 (all settings on auto) I get most of the time 145 fps and up to 165 fps peaking sometimes to 220 fps and 245 fps. Looks like the CAS latency is by far more important in my 5700G system (RX 6600) as the RAM clock speed.
@LvZ90
@LvZ90 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for testing this specific scenario of the integrated praphics!
@ghost_of_m403
@ghost_of_m403 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing. Might I suggest that you link the "Ryzen Memory Timing" video that you reference several times in the video description?
@moremetafeta
@moremetafeta 3 жыл бұрын
It would be cool to see how 2x16 dual channel dual rank 3600 CL14 memory frame rates would chart since the latency in nanoseconds is so low.
@arcticowl1091
@arcticowl1091 Жыл бұрын
Timings are less important than the speed. It doesn't matter if your timings are lower when you can't move enough data to make it matter.
@RussLudwig
@RussLudwig 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the work Eber 👍
@LoopSparkwelder
@LoopSparkwelder 10 ай бұрын
Awesome explanation, awesome video, big thanks for it!
@qqliudl
@qqliudl 3 жыл бұрын
i like this Eber dude, so pleasing~
@SupremeDP
@SupremeDP 2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I needed. Thanks!
@wb3123
@wb3123 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video thanks so much. Concise, to the point and with great testing and information. 10/10 video man. This is the first video I saw on your channel too. Subbed!
@just_ppe
@just_ppe 3 жыл бұрын
very good comparison between mem speed and timing, exactly what I was looking for :-)
@vibrolax
@vibrolax Жыл бұрын
Here in 2023, the GPU storm is not as intense, but it's still not an attractive time (for me) to buy. I bought a new R5 5600G for $118 US, 32 gb DDR4-3200 for $80, and a good 1 TB NVME for $90. I did buy a robust upgrade-worthy B550 MB. We'll see if upgrades ever make sense. Now I gotta watch the memory running video...
@KiryiMONZTA
@KiryiMONZTA 3 жыл бұрын
Of course it help, thank you!
@albert.h79
@albert.h79 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the video!
@draloha296
@draloha296 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Very instructive video.
@deltacx1059
@deltacx1059 3 жыл бұрын
Since a dedicated GPU is so expensive I'm going to try to build a new system using the 5600g then add a dedicated GPU when prices drop. I'm also going to overclock the thing though.
@joshuamaserow
@joshuamaserow 3 жыл бұрын
This is the most perfect 5600G 5700G video that I've always wanted. Thank you.
@MiddleofKnowhere
@MiddleofKnowhere 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you did a chunk of time for just the iGPU. I just tested a 3100 + GTX 1650 (non-super) and the 5600G from your benches performs better/on par with the aforementioned combo, but here's the rub: I paid 128 + 214 for that cpu + GPU combo due to shit prices of 2021. So, for just the 5600G I get more cores and threads and better/same performance in games, for about $82 less. Yes please.
@philnightjar1971
@philnightjar1971 3 жыл бұрын
Less power consumption (not sure) + less stuff in case(better temps most probably)
@philiptownsend4026
@philiptownsend4026 11 ай бұрын
And it enables small mini pc cases like the ASRock X300W. Not everybody wants a huge largely empty case or can afford/justify a graphics card to go in it. Little space and little money is the way to go these days.
@tedpikul1
@tedpikul1 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, still useful in Summer ‘23. I’m about to swap out 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3600mhz CL18 for 2x16GB G Skill Ripjaws CL16, and I was wondering what to do next - tighter timings or higher frequencies? This video makes me think I should leave timings alone and go for higher RAM/fclk clocks (and try to hold on to CL16, but not too hard).
@BarisYener
@BarisYener 3 жыл бұрын
very informative & well presented, thank you!
@voiceofreason314
@voiceofreason314 3 жыл бұрын
Informative! Thank you.
@almeidajp31
@almeidajp31 3 жыл бұрын
nice video, nice work!
@trozenneo277
@trozenneo277 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for all these info! Great!
@GB-zi6qr
@GB-zi6qr 3 жыл бұрын
Just from my own experience, upgraded a Core i3 10100 and Asrock B460M Pro mobo combo to a i5 10600 and ASUS B560 Plus mobo combo. (yes I've seen Hardware Unboxed video on ASUS B560 mobo's, this one has a heatsink on the vrm's. Not sure how good it is, hope to be taking a closer look at it in the not too distant future.). With the memory tuning available on the B560 platform my son is able to run Destiny 2 at 60 fps on lowest settings. He's locked it at 40 and gets better frame consistency this way. He could not get the game to load on the older setup. Both setups were/are running DDR4-3600 memory with CL18 timings. He may not have had windows 10 set to performance mode with the i3 setup, I don't know. Now with about a $600 dollar computer setup he can run the games he wanted to run, not at the speed and resolution, but they will run. Fortunately I've convinced him that the cost of DGPU's are prohibitive at this time. Yes I can afford one but refuse to give into economic piracy. Some folks may not have this latitude/flexibility and that is truly unfortunate. It's unfortunate because these folks may have no choice but to work form home and require a desktop computer with substantial resources. Hopefully people in this situation have an employer that will defray the cost of such a system to help their employee. This is the kind of situation that show's capitalism at it's worst. The flip side, imo, while computer gaming and social media are enjoyable, we need to get back to better interpersonal relations. I'm not saying it's easy, but it's not impossible either. The human body responds very well to moderate physical activity, I know this from personal experience.
@ameirbarakat8223
@ameirbarakat8223 3 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@janviersechan9670
@janviersechan9670 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome explanation, sir. Thank you.
@dupajasio4801
@dupajasio4801 2 жыл бұрын
Update after a month. 5700G is a monster for work. I never go over 2% CPU usage. Sometimes I think I should've gone way lower end. Mind you, I don't game at work. I'm yet to find a way to slow down the clock below 3 GHz. For those quiet moments. I guess I'm saying it's a great CPU for power worker and could be good for gaming as well. Just amazing.
@Puretea4711
@Puretea4711 2 жыл бұрын
just lower the TDP to 35W
@dupajasio4801
@dupajasio4801 2 жыл бұрын
@@Puretea4711 Not sure how actually.
@mrljgibson
@mrljgibson 2 жыл бұрын
Don't bother, just fit a better aftermarket cooler on it and turn the fan way down. I mean you might want to throw some harder work at it at some stage. My 5600G hardly gets above 5% for normal tasks, but I can throw modelling software at it and it will suddenly become a lot more active.
@mr.yonosenada
@mr.yonosenada 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting… on another note, have you ever consider getting into audiobook narration?
@KelvinKamsg
@KelvinKamsg 3 жыл бұрын
His voice would be nice on scripted podcasts like "stuff you should know"
@RobotMowerTricks
@RobotMowerTricks 3 жыл бұрын
Whoahh, I had no idea the 5600G did not support PCI gen 4, I was going to get a B550 board, but now I know there's no point in paying up for that!
@kgonepostl
@kgonepostl 3 жыл бұрын
I love this dude's voice, and calm demeaner.
@ZERONEVERSEVEN
@ZERONEVERSEVEN 3 жыл бұрын
Great info. Thank you.
@czbrat
@czbrat 3 жыл бұрын
Secondary timings have just as much of an effect on the performance as the primary. And tweaking primaries while leaving secondaries and tertiaries on auto might change their values for the worse in terms of performance.
@sushimshah2896
@sushimshah2896 3 жыл бұрын
True, just as we saw lately in the laptop space
@anhiirr
@anhiirr 3 жыл бұрын
intel pushes their non k line......OH well you cant run 3200mhz ram w.o a z series chipset ehehehe.......amd pushes these apu....."oh youll want a more expenseive kit of ram than a plug n play c16 3600 with zen3"........zen3 with c16 3600 xmp or 3200 c14 xmp out of the box instantly performs at a great level w.o any PBO/OC etc. APU......use ram calculator and clock tuner ryzen XD. But youll still need a new/ish chipset to support the newer/rdna2 apus....like a b550. OH how theyve played us all....then yeah apply 2 slots max of ram on ITX....for 32gb/duel rank/b-die. to hit 4000+Mhz at tight timings.......on a 32gb duel rank kit........just to maimize a "cheaper" cpu......which is exactly why im waiting for am4 to be truly EOL before i adapt my rdna2 apu build and concurrent duel rank b-die ram. As a 5800x/5900x makes off perfectly fine with 3600 c16, vs the now new b-die ripjaws v kit of 3600mhz c14....thus you push 4000 c16 etc with ram calculator designations....im not going to buy a 100$ more kit of ram over my already 200$ range 32gb ripjaws.....just so i can hit 3733 c14 on duel rank. Its no different than people on zen+ wanting to jump to zen3 on a b450 or x470.......yet only have 2400-3000mhz ram then get the new zen3 chip....with a 3080 or 6800....and wonder why their frames arent the same as benchmarks on YT or the web.
@LinkStorm13
@LinkStorm13 3 жыл бұрын
@@sushimshah2896 aCTuAlLy....... No, honestly: The ~15% difference we saw there was due tothe sticks only having 4 chips on each module (instead of 8) this adds extra latency in some scenarios (or so, Actually Hardcore Overclocking has a good video about it) You can think of it like single rank and dual rank. And in that case we basically had half rank.
@omegaPhix
@omegaPhix 3 жыл бұрын
@@anhiirr remove the "." key from your keyboard, thank you If you're recommending the Ryzen Dram Calculator you have no clue about proper RAM overclocking.
@Jsteeezz
@Jsteeezz 3 жыл бұрын
@@anhiirr these are still vega apu not rdna 2
@avocadolimbu5641
@avocadolimbu5641 Жыл бұрын
it very helpful to decide for my new build
@alfredmanner6881
@alfredmanner6881 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, your video just saved me the trouble of trying the Rams from my mining rigs myself, now I know to just take my Teamgroup T-Force Xtreem 4000 ram and forgot the rest on this particular machine although I short of thought so as most dedicated GPU news gddr5, gddr6 running at crazy speeds, like my gigabyte rtx 3090 master that I used for mining, that puppys ram was running at 104-110°c because gigabyte use shit thermal pads, replacing them with some Thermalright EXTREME ODYSSEY II did the trick and lowered it to less then 50°c but also the rams were running at 9600mhz in oc mode. From that I kind of understood the importance of speed and the igp using system memory as video memory it was obvious that ram speeds were important.
@JKK_85
@JKK_85 Жыл бұрын
Did you use a DDR4 or GDDR5 GT 1030?
@tharindunuwan4376
@tharindunuwan4376 Жыл бұрын
I have a question. Is going to the 5700G or the 5600X which is better for using software like premiere pro and after effects blender (I don't need it for gaming) Is there a performance difference between the two CPUs in the editing workplace? Is it possible to do 1080, 4K editing at normal levels without a graphic card through the 5700G? I'm planning on moving to a graphic card later
@TheBoltcranck
@TheBoltcranck 3 жыл бұрын
what is the size of the memory allocation for the iGPU: 2GB, 4GB, 8GB or Auto?
@TwistedD85
@TwistedD85 3 жыл бұрын
I want to say it's suggested to keep it at "Auto". Performance was usually the same or better with auto than preallocating any amount.
@ahmed6111
@ahmed6111 3 жыл бұрын
According to doom eternals read out when I played it, there is about 8gb of vram but in R6siege it says only 2. So I assume it's auto.
@RobBCactive
@RobBCactive 3 жыл бұрын
It depends on the mobo, how much is reserved for the iGPU. On mine you have no way to adjust it. But there's one pool of RAM, gfx programs can allocate more. Some programs lie to you, treating the 2GB reservation as if it were dGPU VRAM
@christiankulmann3325
@christiankulmann3325 3 жыл бұрын
11-16GB video shered memory in games...
@dj4monie
@dj4monie 3 жыл бұрын
@@christiankulmann3325 But is the game using that much? It depends on the game obviously.
@t.terone522
@t.terone522 2 жыл бұрын
ARE YOU SURE you bought the good GT1030? The GDDR5 model? And not the HALF AS FAST DDR3 variant? Your results are strange. I wil get my 5600G on monday which I bought for 120€ then I will compare it to Quadro 2000 GT 1030 GDDR5 As well as 2200G and 3400G
@Pram6969
@Pram6969 2 жыл бұрын
What's the result
@t.terone522
@t.terone522 2 жыл бұрын
@@Pram6969 Cant test because the 5600G has to be RMA'd it does not boot or post even on bios updated mainboard :( So will probably take 2 weeks before I have another 5600g at hand. Sorry
@johnpaulbacon8320
@johnpaulbacon8320 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this well done video.
@stevin47
@stevin47 3 жыл бұрын
really good info thank you
@UrukKing
@UrukKing 3 жыл бұрын
You did not mention it, but to use 4000Mhz RAM at a 1:1 ratio with these CPUs you need to overclock the infinity fabric to 2000Mhz. Otherwise it goes into 2:1 mode. The fact that you did not mention it really makes me doubt that claim. Especially since you have to be lucky to be able to overclock it that high. I'm reasonably sure you'd know that. Otherwise I like the content of the video.
@Michael_mki233
@Michael_mki233 3 жыл бұрын
This isn't so much of an issue on the APU's, as they are a single CCU design and can handle higher fabric clocks than the non-APU's. This was also the case with the 4000-series APU's, though I'm sure a lot of people wouldn't know that since you couldn't buy them retail. So it doesn't surprise me that it holds 1:1 at 4000 MT/s. The part of his testing that really bothers me is that he only bothered with testing primary timings, and while those are important, it's the secondary and tertiary timings that will really impact performance.
@pjohnson21211
@pjohnson21211 3 жыл бұрын
this was very helpful.
@fabiovillelaoficial
@fabiovillelaoficial 3 жыл бұрын
Sensacional quality and sharp video... how camera and lens used ? Regards
@1fires1
@1fires1 3 жыл бұрын
Important video. Thanks.
@antoniocepaj7544
@antoniocepaj7544 3 жыл бұрын
this video helped, thank you.
@davideloi9176
@davideloi9176 3 жыл бұрын
there is something I don't understand about ryzen memory controller (I want to build a system with the 5600g): if you look at the cpu specs it says that the maximum memory speed (frequency) supported by the cpu is 3200 mhz. So what happens when you install 3600mhz ram or 4000 mhz ram, for example? Will they run at lower frequency because the maxim frequency that the cpu supports for the ram is 3200? thanks
@pacman4596
@pacman4596 2 жыл бұрын
I don't get why people would want more ram frequency with this processor when It can't take no more than 3200 mhz seriously can someone explain that to me
@sirdee9607
@sirdee9607 3 жыл бұрын
Thx for ur work
@CharlieVeve
@CharlieVeve 3 жыл бұрын
I did build the Ryzen 5600g RIG for friend of mine, I did pair it with Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB ( 2x8gb ) 3600MHZ with CL18. is that ok? I threw it all on Asus B550M-A wifi Prime. He wanted just home use of PC and occasionally play some games.
@gioac96
@gioac96 3 жыл бұрын
Make sure to update the description to include the affiliate links to buy the new processors :)
@mymrmelon3503
@mymrmelon3503 Жыл бұрын
Some of the best ram I have found for this CPU in 2023 is Teamgroups T-force Vulcan ddr4 ram. you can get 16gb of 3600mhz cl18 for $37 dollars... or 4000mhz for $44. OR you can get the 32gb versions for $61 and $72. I think the 32gb is a little overkill for this though since unless you are playing mostly CPU intensive games like minecraft the 32gb will have little overall perfomance boost. And for 7 dollars more you should definitely be getting the 4000mhz instead of the 3600mhz if you get the 16gb
@Rapscallion2009
@Rapscallion2009 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I've discovered monkeying around with these is that power consumption only goes up very slightly if you overclock RAM. It did increase significantly if you overclock CPU or GPU, though. Mind you, it's very power efficient so this isn't a major concern, but it will make fans louder.
@terribleatfishing
@terribleatfishing Жыл бұрын
"X" series also is able to use NVMe gen 4, the "G" series uses Gen 3 NVMe M.2. The "5800X" runs really hot as well
@victorvega3287
@victorvega3287 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison! Thank you very much for the information. I am going to build a pc with the 5600g because I think that with the 3600 memory it is the sweetspot between price-value for some decent 1080p gaming.
@topisalonen8813
@topisalonen8813 3 жыл бұрын
Im going to go for it too. :) have u built a pc yet?
@dalewilson908
@dalewilson908 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment, just what I've been looking for. I'm on board with the 5600G and he 3600 memory.
@topisalonen8813
@topisalonen8813 3 жыл бұрын
@@dalewilson908 you should consider i5 12400/12400f which intel just released. 12400f about 200$ and is on par with r5 5600x (if you're going to buy dedicated gpu straight away) then 12400 is better choice
@cocomu9955
@cocomu9955 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! What’s the difference of 3600 to 5600? And the x to g? I am a bit stuck moving forward cause I am so lost whether to get 3600 or 5600 and what other parts should go with it
@topisalonen8813
@topisalonen8813 3 жыл бұрын
@@cocomu9955 5600x is much more powerful than 3600, and the difference between 5600g and 5600x is the "G" stands for apu which means it has built in graphics card in the processor, so you can play less demanding games with only the cpu if you have the 5600g. but 5600x is about 10% faster in performance. Hope this helped
@geoffduke1763
@geoffduke1763 2 жыл бұрын
I literally just purchased a new PC yesterday with 5600G and corsair 3200 RAM so will be putting it to the test soon.
@Rorensuwl8
@Rorensuwl8 2 жыл бұрын
How is it?
@itsdeonlol
@itsdeonlol 3 жыл бұрын
This is great Eber!!!
@zayn4047
@zayn4047 Жыл бұрын
So which ram is the best for ryzen 5600g?
@lenardd.8431
@lenardd.8431 3 жыл бұрын
just one question that no one mentioned even in AMD sites, does the 5000 series APU's still limit the pcie bandwidth x16 to a maximum of x8 lanes? just like the 1st and 2nd gen ryzen APU
@yumatv.
@yumatv. 3 жыл бұрын
How about editing sir? Or OBS studio
@jmanil
@jmanil 3 жыл бұрын
The whole GPU issue is why I opted to buy a Ryzen 7 5700G, ASRock X570M Pro4 motherboard and 64gb RAM (3200). The money I saved by not buying a GPU allowed me to splurge on 64gb of RAM. I am just waiting for the RAM to arrive so I hope to be building this by the end of the week. I'm not a big gamer and my OS will be Linux (Majaro 21.1.0 KDE Plasma).
@bl4z3_77
@bl4z3_77 2 жыл бұрын
Why 64 GB of RAM?
@jmanil
@jmanil 2 жыл бұрын
@@bl4z3_77 my Mobo supports 128gb. I allocate ram to my virtual machines. I have a Win11 VM running much of the time and i allocate 32gb to it. My Linux runs really smoothly on the other 32gb.
@bl4z3_77
@bl4z3_77 2 жыл бұрын
@@jmanil what do you need it for? The vm
@bytescraft4504
@bytescraft4504 3 жыл бұрын
so quick poll for over all performance, 3200 or 3600 for ryzen 5700G?
@Sup_D
@Sup_D 3 жыл бұрын
Probably 3600 (overcloaked to 4000) with CL16, would be the best for price to performance.
@lil_per_vert
@lil_per_vert Жыл бұрын
Is Gskill Ripjaws V 3600Mhz 8gb×2 CL18 22 22 42 good enough for 5600G?
@raja7775
@raja7775 Жыл бұрын
what's the verdict
@ArpanMukhopadhyay93
@ArpanMukhopadhyay93 3 жыл бұрын
nice and useful!
@madcrowmaxwell
@madcrowmaxwell 3 жыл бұрын
One thing to remember: GDDR timings are really loose. For GPU performance, timings matter way less than raw transfer speed!
@Dragunnitum
@Dragunnitum 3 жыл бұрын
This year's black friday was sick!! the 5700g reached as low as 260$ !!
@robertkubrick3738
@robertkubrick3738 2 жыл бұрын
There might be some silk purse from a sows ear ram kits out there. I bought some Timetec 3600 CL18 ram for 2 different computers 2 years ago when fairly fast ram was expensive. They were single rank modules wth one controller per stick. 2 years later, I want to upgrade from 16GB to 32 GB in both computers. I installed T-Force 2 X 16 3200 CL16 in my sisters computer and it's great. I installed the two matching salvaged sticks in my computer for 32GB dual rank but it didn't want to run fast. Ram often doesn't when running 4 sticks. It was almost stable at 3200mhz CL16 but I had to drop it down to 3133mhz for rock solid stability. Since I couldn't go up, I decided to go down with the timings. I got the timings down to CL14 16 16 16 34. I gained dual rank with the salvaged ram along with 32GB. 3200 CL16 =10. 3600 CL18 also = 10. 3133 CL14 = 8.9 latency. I think it's a pretty nice set now, all things considered. There is better ram avalable at better prices these days and don't think you need to break the bank. If I had more time than money I would look at modules of ram that matched the QVL for both the motherboard and the processor and price shop. My ram isn't actually in the QVL for my board so I got the joy of learning manual overclocking, but it still works. It's not that hard.
@prabhatbirgaiyan8340
@prabhatbirgaiyan8340 2 жыл бұрын
I took Ryzen 7 5700g processor and has 4000 Mhz, G-Skill Ram, with it but i cannot use full performance of ram I only use 3133 Mhz Processor does not support more RAM than this
@ASHESPREVAIL
@ASHESPREVAIL 2 жыл бұрын
Ty
@ronyzmiri
@ronyzmiri 2 жыл бұрын
I am about to build my second time ever DIY PC. this is a home office PC, no gaming just normal use and casual basic video editing. I have a brand new, never used AMD Ryzen 2400G lying around, but came upon a great offer of Ryzen 5600G. My question - does it make sense to buy the newer CPU and will I feel a big difference between the two?
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR 3 жыл бұрын
What about using Threadripper Compatible 3600MHZ DDR4 RAM modules with the RYZEN 5600G?
@HardwareCanucks
@HardwareCanucks 3 жыл бұрын
As in ECC memory?
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR 3 жыл бұрын
Yes that should work should it not
@ghost_of_m403
@ghost_of_m403 3 жыл бұрын
@@DAVIDGREGORYKERR No it should not work.
@randomdamian
@randomdamian 3 жыл бұрын
Do 5600G runs often at 2000mhz IF or are you guys just having a golden sample?
@johnkirby1326
@johnkirby1326 3 жыл бұрын
please do a review about the 4650g as well. thanks :)
@APU-iGPU
@APU-iGPU 3 жыл бұрын
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