The BEST mouse of 2024? (already)

This is the THIRD Sora in like a year and a half! At what point do we decide that we've had enough Soras? Is it now? Do not worry. In this Ninjutso Sora V2 review we will finally find out if this is the last mouse in the series.
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[@eoinc4091]

Stop! I already bought the 4k! I can’t keep buying new mice! La la la la la… not listening !

[@DesocupadoXtremo]

You know it will end in your desk some time...

[@eoinc4091]

True 🤣

[@goochipoochie]

Wait 1 month and you can get 16k

[@riker8214]

8k isn’t even necessary. 4k is overkill as it is. Have you ever been playing with 1000hz and missed a shot and thought “dang it! If only my mouse had more hz I’d have hit that shot!”

[@lazarusgodfrey7079]

But sora 4k and sora v2 is really different in shape, if you like 4k, like me, you may not like v2

[@DanVQX]

OMG, it has a sensor!? Awesome vid, decided on getting one because of this review.

[@XSFlanger]

Mine just got shipped several days ago. Can't wait to test against Viper v2 Pro on G-SR II and Artisan Hayate pads. Prob gonna stick with G-SR II for VALORANT gameplay :)

[@MaZEEZaM]

Ive just ordered this mouse because of your review, $160 AUD inc $7 i think it was for shipping to Australia. No sign of the receiver currently. The mouse itself has an ETA of March 8th but up to 14 business day shipping. Now i'm off to find your Vaxee PA mousepad review.

[@Krejwik]

and how is the mouse?

[@MidoriShiro]

The goat is finally back with the sora v2. Finally I can get out of gold with this mouse :v Hope you can get your hands on the VXE R1 Pro Max

[@agris12]

this, please review the r1 pro or pro max, it is insane value

[@hishamaru]

please tell me your current rank, did you manage to get out of gold? :D

[@MidoriShiro]

​@@hishamaru yes lol I'm plat now but can't grind because of time atm. If I had more time I can probably go dia now. I main the og atlantis btw.

[@MaZEEZaM]

Do you think you would be faster and still accurate on the glass or speed mouse pad if you gave it more time to get used to it?

[@tamashermann5229]

@DiamondLobbyReviews I bought the Sora 4k based on your recommendation. What settings do you recommend for Peak performance, Ripple control, Polling rate e.t.c.?

[@bo0t3r29]

Insane mouse, way better for me shape wise than my previous main the superlight

[@Tofuey]

Palm grip recommendations? I went from deathadder v2 to Glorious d-. But the d- just feels a little off even if I do like it more than the bulky v2

[@agg42]

How does the sensor position compare to the other versions? I'm starting to favor a sensor position further into my palm than out by the fingers.

[@patrikmedia]

thoughts on adding grip tape to mice like the Sora? I recently added one to my GPX2 and it feels significantly better. I have a backup GPX and in comparison it's much more slippery in my hand. can't really go back to non-grip taped mice after using mine for a few weeks.

[@ultra_01]

grip taped mice are getting increasingly popular among pro players adding grip tape to the sora could help your grip if the coating is not to your liking

[@patrikmedia]

@@ultra_01 I use grip tape on my GPX2, it's fantastic. although the included one is not as strong as the one by Superglide. lot's of people aren't even aware that the Superlight comes with a pack of grip tape included in the box.

[@e4zy_777]

The sora v2 feels amazing I love it ❤

[@user-vp5oe6bk3r]

What do u think about finger grip with this mouse on small hands like 16.5x8? Will it be good? Thanks

[@CrafteG]

Ordered Sora V2 a few days ago. Want to try it, and who knows, maybe switch from Razer Viper Signature Edition 😅 Thanks for the review Sir!

[@tinocabral4201]

How’s the Sora?

[@CrafteG]

​@tinocabral4201 Wonderful. For 100$, this is one of the best if not the best mouse on the market. Got it around 3 weeks back and didn't touch Viper SE since.

[@umutkurt2163]

@@CrafteG Can i ask whats your hand size bro? i ordered one as well and my size is 18x9 and currently using a relaxed claw grip, but i am open to use a more aggresive one. just wondering what it feels like on a smilar hand size.

[@CrafteG]

​@@umutkurt2163 Hello my friend. My hand is 19.5x10. You will be not disappointed - it is awesome mouse! Did not use Viper SE since I got my Sora V2 :) Your had size and grip type will be grand for it.

[@CrafteG]

@@tinocabral4201 It is great mouse. Very good price for such solid mouse.

[@RakaZet]

Hey, I got the Strikepad too, and I LOVE IT. But I have no reference in how it compares to other mousepads. It's definitely on the faster side, but by how fast? Do you think there are faster cloth pads? Or how does it compare to glass pads like the Superglide, Cerapad Kin, or even the Skypad?

[@DiamondLobbyReviews]

i prefer it to glass pads tbh. it feels a lot smoother overall. I've not used another pad for ages so I can't really compare it to others. all I know that since I've used a strikepad I've not used a glass one since.

[@cafeinakk2342]

does it ship worldwide or no? thinking of buying one but idk if it will ship to my country

[@rat2128]

What pads would you guys recommend for the mouse ? never bought any

[@reecep4016]

Yo man where can I buy this in the UK. Having a hard time finding it anywhere

[@quixoticstar]

Still in love with my sora 4k

[@RayCrush2008]

Am I wrong or are these switches the same logitech started to use in the G502x and superlight 2?

[@beam4671]

"I'm using the ROG Ace Harpe, but I don't feel satisfied. Should I try the G Pro X? I previously used the Lamzu Thorn and liked it a lot. Any suggestions for another mouse? Currently considering between the Atlantis OG and Maya, leaning towards Lamzu based on my preferences."

[@expert8665]

What do you not like about the ace? I didn't like it either.

[@ThisIsNotJP]

How do you compare the Sora V2 to the Ultralight?

[@sylksdjfhgklsdj]

Any info on when the 8k hz reciever will be available?

[@danijan9076]

"where is the superlight 2 i wear u ask" still cracks me up every time i remember

[@Gavo172]

How big are your hands? I find myself using a very similar grip style to you, but my hands are 20x10 so I'm a little worried they'll be a bit big for this. Let me know!

[@exploring420]

Please one video why u recommended razer v3 pro

[@r3v0st4r9]

Guys, I can't decide between Sora 4k and V2. I use Claw-Relax grip (Pincer Claw). So far I have the GPX and Pulsar X2 Wireless. My hand size is 18.5/10

[@SKRGamingChannel]

do you have recommendation for a macro mouse? right now im using G305 and the macro is good and fast respond. people told me to buy g502 x lightspeed, Razer Naga and other brand with 110grams ++ weight.. i am looking for a lightweight mouse. ive been watching alot of mice review.. none of them talking about the macro. thank you

[@xymaryai8283]

this! people keep dogging on the g502, but it seems to be the only complete allrounder, with of course the patented hyperscroll. i need moar buttons, but i need it to be light. currently using a Logitech MX Anywhere, kinda desperate here

[@Frwt]

I am thinking of getting a new mouse as my model o- broke after 3 years of use. I was thinking about this or the G pro superlight. Does anyone have any recommendations.

[@inkiblackman2625]

thoughts on wlmouse beastx/mini?

[@jR0xas]

This year the op1 8k just caught me off guard completely so that's my favourite with the Sora v2 being a close second and the best wireless mouse that I've ever used as well.

[@lucamarcon]

mouse op1 8k and sora v2 best 2024

[@DomukasTaps1271]

Im considering which to buy, this or logitech g502

[@user-mv7qr8kh2n]

I've got 19x10cm hands and main the GPXS. I use relaxed claw, I cant stand aggressive claw, it hurts my fingers to bend them that much for long and I lose a lot of accuracy. Would you reccommend the Sora, Atlantis, X2 or XM2? It sounds like the shapes are super similar but with very minor changes, I can't afford to get all 4 so I was hoping you could help me decide. The sora looks like it would be too small for me? I do prefer the front grip having that inward slant rather than straight edges.

[@tamashermann5229]

I've been in the same shoes as you. I have 19 x 10.6 cm hand size, I use a relaxed claw grip, where the inside of my palm touches the back of the mosue, and I mained the Superlight before I bought the Sora 4k, so I think I'm the perfect one to answer your question. (For mousepad I use the Artisan Zero) I was not thinking about buying the Atlantis or the XM2, I considered only the Sora 4K and the Pulsar X2. My tought process was: avoid X2, because of the quality problems in the past with the other mices of Pulsar, so I ended up buying the Sora 4K a week ago. I also had the Engame Gear XM1-R before, which is very similar in size to the Endgame Gear XM2 and it felt great for claw grip, but I would not say that it was better than the Superlight. Size: I absolutely do not recommend buying the Sora V2, because the longer Sora 4k is also quite borderline for such a hand size. The Superlight is 12.5 cm long and the Sora 4K is 12.08 cm long so unless you use a fingertip grip, I recommend that you should not go below 12 cm. Weight: I still can't decide if it's just my sensitivity or if this mouse is too light for me, but I can say that the difference in weight from 60g to 47g is quite noticeable and not always in a good way. Sometimes I'm quite inconsistent with it and I often over-flick, but I emphasize that I have only been using the mouse for 1 week. Everything else: The buttons, the feet, the scrool wheel, everything else feels really good. Overall, if you feel that the weight difference won't cause a big problem for your aim and you really would like to try something new then I recommend the Sora 4k mouse.

[@user-mv7qr8kh2n]

@@tamashermann5229 Thanks for such an indepth reply. It does sound like the Sora will just be ever so slightly too short, when I measure how I hold my G pro it looks like my fingers would literally be hitting the front edge of the Sora. The XM1r should be the same shape as the XM2. Could you elaborate how it wasn't different from the G pro?

[@tamashermann5229]

​@@user-mv7qr8kh2n The XM1-R and the Sora 4k have similar characteristics. They both have outward widening sides, while the sides of the superlight are roughly parallel and there is only a very small widening at the back. So this is the first big difference, the other one is the position of the hump. The Superlight has it at the middle, but the XM1-R and the Sora both have it at the rear. Why I felt Superlight was better than Endgame cannot be said in a KZbin comment. Obviously, everyone's hands are different, you have to experience this yourself to make a good decision. In my country, e.g. there is a 14-day return period, I recommend that you read the return policy of the websites where you would like to order from and maybe order 2 mice at the same time and after you made a decision return the one you liked less. But this method must not be abused in the long term, otherwise they will not take the product back from you.

[@Evan-xs8ts]

@@user-mv7qr8kh2n the place where you put your hand is different on both mice though. the sora v2 is just fine. I also have a GPX, and the grip on the sora is totally different since the gpx is a weird shape that's okay for everything but not great for some grips.

[@KindaDisturbingMe]

Where do you buy this in the UK? :O

[@aulasy2657]

is there wired 4K or 8K hz?

[@DaBoxGhost84]

Diamond lobby, Would you say you are using a relaxed claw grip on this mouse compared to palm grip?

[@DiamondLobbyReviews]

Both

[@chinesestepbro1031]

the more finger u use the better , but hardrr

[@Kiobao]

I'm very picky when it comes to mice side buttons, and the side buttons on the sora v2 looked mushy, I've heard some say it has no pre-post travel, others say it does. So, I've been debating between the Sora V2 , Superlight 2 since I have the gpro but it's double clicking and I know I like that one and waiting for the Viper V3 pro if it's any better from the V2 or V3 hyperspeed.

[@darinein4131]

You're picky when it comes to side buttons and like the superlight??? How??? I hated them so much that I ended up selling the mouse. Also what did you get? I'm interested now

[@mickeylickey]

How is this compared to lamzu Atlantis mini?

[@ShinobuChann84]

saiu recentemente a noticia pela própria nintuso de que o 4k poderá ser atingido com o dungle que acompanha o sora v2 na caixa via atualização de firmware futura

[@alexemanuel1588]

Donde viste esa noticia? Tienes la fuente.?

[@ShinobuChann84]

Perfil oficial da ninjutso no X ja falou sobre no perfil deles e também diretamente com alguns criadores de conteúdo

[@alexemanuel1588]

@@ShinobuChann84 Es bueno escuchar eso, justo me acabo de pedir el mouse. Y con una actualización para poder tener 4K creo que es más que suficiente. Igual si el 8K merece la pena también estaría la opción. Ojalá si hagan la actualización

[@alexemanuel1588]

@@ShinobuChann84 Por cierto me puedes mandar el Twittea o la noticia es que he estado buscando información y no encuentro nada por el estilo.

[@KANCIAPAGAMINGROOM]

I was looking for information about 8k dongle on Ninjutso website but I haven't found any information. Do you know when Sora V2 can sell with this 8k dongle?

[@DiamondLobbyReviews]

no new info when its releasing yet 🤷‍♀️

[@KANCIAPAGAMINGROOM]

@@DiamondLobbyReviewsthanks mate !

[@KANCIAPAGAMINGROOM]

Hey I have got Logitech X502 Lightspeed do you think is it worthy to change for Sora V2 will it be an upgrade?

[@DiamondLobbyReviews]

yes

[@KANCIAPAGAMINGROOM]

@@DiamondLobbyReviewsthats a pretty short answer haha :D

[@user-hi5ch7de3t]

How is it compared to vxe r1

[@vhallis]

Why aren't more companies use omron opticals, are they more expensive than the raesha ones?

[@jokur7]

what's wrong with Microsoft Edge? it's different from the Internet Explorer, and it works for me

[@alper12784]

As of now. Sora v2 will be updating in the future to support 8k with existing dongles, not a seperate dongle. Pre orders are live on the website itself.

[@calvinnim7270]

"With an additional purchase of dual-chip 8000Hz receiver, the all new SnappyFire wireless can support up to 8000Hz polling". Straight off the product page

[@alper12784]

update: it seems that another dongle is needed to support 8k. during testing phase we could not clarify but now we can tell you clearly. so after testing they decided that a 8k dongle is indeed needed, and that will prob release. this doesnt come from me, its from the people ninjutso. im sorry for confusing people with this info

[@ChariTT]

Is it better to buy a mouse that has optical switches nowdays? I'm looking for one with a high durability

[@zrvlog5037]

yes if u are gamer

[@Billy_The_Frog]

I know this is a very subjective question, but would you personally consider this an upgrade over the lamzu mini 1k? Just wanna hear your opinion.

[@DiamondLobbyReviews]

if you want my opinion the sora v2 beats every mouse that exists

[@Billy_The_Frog]

@@DiamondLobbyReviews Damn, that's high praise. Thanks for the reply.

[@Kite-asura]

@@Billy_The_Frog Coming from the Atlantis Mini, it is the absolute best upgrade you could get

[@Gavo172]

Hell yeah. Resting my hand rght now, which should give this enough time to come in I do notice the shape is a bit shorter, I have a 20x10 hand. Okay for that size?

[@rephleX67]

I have 19x10 and it feels very good, my fingertips resting right between the wheel so it should fit you also very well. But you shoud like the slightly convex shape to the inside and you need to curl the pinky and the ring finger a bit because of that. But i come from a Zowie-FK2 so thats what i am used to and like because it gives a locked in feeling for very steady aim in fps games.

[@Gavo172]

@@rephleX67 gotcha. I am finally moving on from my g502 and have been looking for a mouse for a bit, I was originally going to get the Sora 4K but I don't need that polling rate at all so the V2 looks like a perfect fit

[@rephleX67]

​@@Gavo172i also dont need 4k, not even 2k. The Sora V2 can go up to 8k with future firmwareupdate. So the possibility is there.

[@sethwilliams8442]

@@Gavo172did you get the v2 or 4k how do you like it if so?

[@Gavo172]

@@sethwilliams8442 I got the V2 - it's absolutely amazing, but I'm not really a claw person and prefer ergo shapes at the end of the day. Ended up reselling. But it's great, seriously. Good damn mouse, I miss the clicks 😭 Ended up getting a dav3

[@doggofv]

Maaann now i want one. But i really dont need a new mouse 😢

[@misaroorasim]

Just bought one to replace my ASUS Harpe Ace Aimlab.

[@dibyajyotidas5056]

Suggest me a wired mouse except viper mini bc I already own one

[@tobi9378]

I just bought the Sora 4K and now they released a new version ;(

[@trulyaloof]

This mouse over NP-01?

[@Koniegif]

Another budget mice review pls?

[@EldorIsHere]

Hi, I'm new to the channel, Love the review, but i think it's incompllete without a proper latency and senor checks :(, if it has 10ms click latency it's not worth it, I'm sure its not 10, buit still. to annouce a "best mice" it should be the best all around (at least that's what we'd hope it to be)

[@user-ir6pg9iy2k]

Recently you claimed that SPRIME PM1 is the best-shaped mouse. How does it feel compared to the Sora v2? Big diff?

[@DiamondLobbyReviews]

they are completely different shapes. so yes, there's a big difference

[@user-ir6pg9iy2k]

@@DiamondLobbyReviews in your opinion, which one would be better for finger tip grip? Thx!

[@DiamondLobbyReviews]

sora v2

[@Hyperion9700]

I can't get the Sora in my country without paying like 40USD shipping then another 15USD tax. It seems quite close in shape to OP1we so I will maybe get it

[@AntonChigurh-]

I’m pretty sure a lot of people use Microsoft Edge now since they hopped to Chromium. It’s basically Chrome, but reskinned. Edge is the browser I use, since it comes with Windows pre installed. Also, I read that Ninjutso said that existing dongles, like the ones that came with the 4K version, will support 8K in the future. Might want to check that out.

[@jeji5860]

Mouse : exists KZbinr : Endgame?

[@exploring420]

I want buy this mouse but the shipping are 30 usd. 30% of the mouse. But I think it’s worth. Thank u for the videos.

[@tinpot_numbee3910]

Id still get an op1 8k since it has a narrow width

[@apollobeast6683]

Hey, you should pin this since it about the dongle. Sora confirmed that the 8k dongle will not be sold separately from the mouse but actually use a firmware update to the dongle that came with the mouse in the box. ❤

[@DiamondLobbyReviews]

sauce?

[@apollobeast6683]

Jakeu tweeted it on twitter talking to sora about how absurd it was for not saying separate

[@DiamondLobbyReviews]

already been tracked back. so a separate dongle is needed

[@TheBowerbird]

You should know that Microsoft Edge uses a refined and better version of the Chrome rendering engine - minus the google spyware. Kind of shocking you didn't know this.

[@Ryuugetzu]

How's the Fantech Strikepad?

[@DiamondLobbyReviews]

Amazing

[@yasieboy9534]

been looking for an excuse to say goodbye to my old g pro

[@teppsgg3688]

Crying in Ninjutso Origin One X

[@samserious1337]

I want a V2 Origin One X :(

[@shdxw7025]

xlite v3 mini is the best for me, i don't like the shape of the sora

[@Reeezeful]

buyer's remorse.. bought my 4k a bit over a month ago and while loving it, i'm a little bit sad now

[@DiamondLobbyReviews]

why? if you love the sora4k it doesn't matter

[@Reeezeful]

@@DiamondLobbyReviews you are obviously right and it is just the greed for the "latest and greatest". won't be swapping though for now since the 4k just works for me (bought it because of ur recommendation btw! thanks again :D )

[@mauriciopcbr]

Katana superlight ... YES!

[@Wakingfinn]

Is the mouse good for small hands

[@lucamarcon]

Perfect

[@nonri500]

Ninjutso just mentioned that they are going to update the dongle for 8K support. So... no additional purchase needed! Yay! Edit: Nvm. They sent out a new message telling the 8k dongle will need to be bought seperately. Shame

[@empty2559]

You serious?

[@asd123465jkl]

Where was it mentioned? I don’t see any tweets about it

[@DiamondLobbyReviews]

already been tracked back. so a separate dongle is needed

[@trevorfranks69]

Any idea how to deal with shoulder pain?

[@DiamondLobbyReviews]

fix ur posture

[@Billy_The_Frog]

make your chair higher so you dont have to lift your shoulder whenever you aim

[@OhJustCommenting]

Just input this question into KZbin. There’s a ton of resources to help. Stretches and exercises will give it a ton of relief

[@fatstacksmax]

Look up band exercises for your shoulder

[@misaroorasim]

the reason it probably suggest edge is because the latest edge uses chromium engine. therefore any browser based chrome probably works

[@xymaryai8283]

yes, so this would include Brave, Vivaldi, basically everything except Firefox. honestly, almost a dealbreaker for me as a friend of the fox, but i also use Vivaldi so i can just use that

[@onepunchdave3216]

looking at it it kinda looks the same as an atlantis v2, are my eyes lying to me?

[@joshdeconcentrated2674]

hump is more rounded and not as flat feeling

[@onepunchdave3216]

@@joshdeconcentrated2674 yet measurement wise it is lower

[@joshdeconcentrated2674]

@@onepunchdave3216 yes. completely different from the atlantis v2.

[@jimmyl8160]

This or zowie u2?

[@DiamondLobbyReviews]

this

[@rocketjumpzone]

no pro players including myself use this mouse, I smashed in my review

[@kamasu4222]

So... what actually makes this better than the 4k other than the price?

[@DiamondLobbyReviews]

decent weight reduction mainly. the shape might be more beneficial to others as it's not as intrusive on the palm

[@kesamek8537]

Web-only software is a deal breaker. If you don't have the software on your on PC and it works offline like proper software, then you don't really own your mouse.

[@Agent_Alpha]

When they released the red version would be when my wallet met its death

[@samserious1337]

4:15 now its silver lobby reviews :D

[@PSH0629]

logitech? razer? nope we got lamzu, ninjutso, and vaxee these days

[@cmo8627]

From what Ninjutso said, the current dongle will be updated to support 8k polling rates. Source: Jakeufps

[@DiamondLobbyReviews]

already been tracked back. so a separate dongle is needed

[@xXGunnzzXx]

Ninjutso has confirmed that there will be an update that will allow existing dongles to support 8k so there will be no need to purchase a completely separate dongle! Update: Ninjutso reached out to a reviewer with an update and let them know that a separate dongle would be needed, unfortunately

[@dripskydrip]

Source to this? This would be awesome.

[@xXGunnzzXx]

@@dripskydrip unfortunately, they had reached out to one of the reviewers after further testing and told them that they had hoped there wouldn’t be another dongle needed but the software couldn’t support it :/

[@iamdave96]

my man looks like @BasicallyHomeless after 3 months in Alabama and cannot grasp why IExplorer at 2:18 ..because after a fresh install of windows you get only IE. Me personally i get a fresh windows install every 6 months and its the most genuine moment when i get Open IE to set up Sora. And btw dont act that young, you're 30 yrs like i am :)))

[@OneDollaBill]

I don't understand why more companies dont use Omron opticals. Theres literally 0 ergo mouse with Omrons, all use the garbage raesha switches

[@X1mpleCsGo]

this is real v2 not spl2

[@Deltatwo3]

That is such an odd thing to say "this mouse makes my aim so much better". I can't tell if you're sponsored or just in a honeymoon phase.

[@DiamondLobbyReviews]

why is it odd? i play a lot better with this mouse

[@Deltatwo3]

@@DiamondLobbyReviews it's odd because I'm kind of an odd guy so I think a lot of things are odd.

[@djbr12]

bro firefox and chrome are over dude microsoft edge is unironically the best browser out of the three

[@James00037]

they ruined the shape for me and the clicks are too light

[@bad_to_the_bone4431]

No RGB. You can't play well without RGB!

[@michaberlak1952]

im curious, if this mouse is sooo good then why there are no pro players using it?

[@cmo8627]

Tenz uses it.

[@michaberlak1952]

@@cmo8627 so there is one

[@steinsbarry9490]

no

[@DiamondLobbyReviews]

Yes

[@shardsv]

maybe

[@mothguts.]

did you know!? humans cant perceive anything above 1000hz!! all the marketing for 4k 8k hz is either false marketing or literal placebo.

[@fursan07]

a few years ago, human eyes couldn't perceive more than 480p according to some people.

[@mariankowalski9797]

It doesn't have enough buttons for me...

[@TheACTIONZ]

40g too light for your muscels

[@minusdrei6561]

I've come from 100 gr to 48 gr and it felt wonderful first time i was holding it. Before, i thought i should be getting 60-70 gr because i was used to heavy mouse but 48 gr felt so natural to me never had an issue since day 1.

[@DiamondLobbyReviews]

my muscles are pringle cans i put in my sleeves

[@bllopawah]

edge is based u boomer

[@DiamondLobbyReviews]

Based on what?

[@DD-zo4dw]

Your mom is endgame

[@DiamondLobbyReviews]

she reached the endgame when she died a few weeks ago

[@stefantholet4036]

Sorry for your loss, brother!

[@oliverlee8561]

@@DiamondLobbyReviews my condolences

[@Benni259]

@@DiamondLobbyReviews may she rest in peace. Sorry for your loss man

[@DD-zo4dw]

​@@DiamondLobbyReviews oh my condolences bro

[@wedno8158]

second

[@ashcooksfood]

First