The BEST New Super Damage In The Game (Revenant Changes TESTED)

[@fluxtheexo]

so Tcrash damage testing was wack and cuirass should have been more SES does indeed buff aftershocks when cuirass doesnt but for SES: initial impact - 751834 explosions - 16396*11 aftershocks - 9832*4 total - 971518(same as the vid) so using Cuirass and the same amount of hits initial impact - 776895 explosions - 16942*11 aftershocks - 6554*4 so the total SHOULD BE - 989473 but the total in the vid is 955589 which is 33884 less than the theoretical which is exatctly 2 explosion ticks TLDR: Cuirass hits for 989473 instead of 955589 shown in the vid and is better than SES

[@justkagyu4535]

RIP no Raiju gathering storm testing...

[@samspin429]

Raiju's probably doesn't add much towards total single target damage compared to star eaters unless the lightning strikes do more than 50% of the main super's damage each but it would have been nice to get some numbers on it.

[@elchoronano]

Perfect boss to try blight ranger too

[@bradenroof6270]

Raiju’s doesn’t add damage directly. You have to be on top of the enemy to summon the storm to do any extra damage, which isn’t really worth

[@LlamaD2]

Ah forgot about that, sorry!

[@gavo7911]

I really want Bungie to explain why they felt the need to gut Star-Eater’s so much, because I really can’t wrap my head around it.

[@mrcrensh3299]

i think their mentality is since it's available for all classes and it's ease of use is minimal, it would either make it harder to get the buff or decrease the damage and decided to just decrease the damage buff instead of making you go through more hoops to have it

[@wolfgang5359]

Still lose the buff on death anyways so still don't see a point to the nerf.

[@josephcool981]

Honestly, the fact that chaos reach with geomags is doing THAT much damage makes me so happy.

[@ElijXR]

Keep in mind now that the actual Synthoceps (i.e., the gauntlets) should still boost Twilight Arsenal by 50% and thus be higher than the Star-Eater combo, given that you’re surrounded.

[@ThePackman627]

oooooooooo I didn't think of that

[@ibiddengt5023]

True, but if you're surrounded, then you just know axes will track to the ads. You are right though.

[@thehashslaingingslasher]

​@@ibiddengt5023 facts. There's always that one axe that just wants to demolish the single thrall in the back of the map.

[@vrika4280]

I don't have access to the class items, why is Star Eater's less? Light gg says it's 70%

[@RebelOfTheNorm242]

Nerfed to 25% boost for twilight specifically​@@vrika4280

[@logik1677]

Regarding Silence n Squal: because it’s a DoT effect it means you can do shooting dps at the same time, so add in firepower and that’s your validation. Just saying it’s dogshit at

[@shadowtrooper6394]

As a Nighthawk Hunter, I am so saddened by that damage

[@ianmills6260]

Thundercrash is finally good! YIPPEEE :3

[@chronic_broticus8832]

>3

[@typicalgamer3131]

its bugged rn but hopefully they don’t change it. it’s been a long time since t crash was the go to for titan dps and i miss it

[@dankplagueis9253]

Tbh it SHOULD be among the best does one and dones considering how it also kills your dps with travel time and running back to plates

[@TheArcturusProject]

And the danger of being inside the boss’s anus

[@roundraccoon6141]

One minor thing that might have looked cool to see is worm god behemoth melees yes it does stack and yes the damage is high.

[@tylerviloria4699]

Was using that for a bit, pretty fucken nutty lol

[@nunyabusnes]

I could never get the setup right, I did it once

[@iron883bb8]

I like that thundercrash is so high. It puts you in the ballsack of the boss where as twilight and golden gun and such you can do from safety far away

[@ahskhero]

A thing almost nobody knows: Song of Flame actually deals more damage with only the melee ability. Try it yourself if you dont believe me, go check out the video of atzecross who tested it last episode in a Super Damage Test video (and yes it still deals more dmg this episode with a differant artifact).

[@DJungleskoggs]

Thundercrash does more damage cuz u have to throw yourself to the enemy whereas Goldie can be used anywhere

[@TheArcturusProject]

Game devs remembered logic this season?!

[@SealFormulaMaster]

Yep. And once again Hunters ain't got stuff to do in PvE. Don't need Tether when you got Div, don't need GG when you got TC, don't need SS when you got Bleak Watchers. All the good Hunter supers are easily replaced by basically anything else. Only thing we can maybe kinda do is Beyblade builds, but I think most people play to use powers, not throw a ball.

[@DJungleskoggs]

Also hunters should take into consideration that celestial golden gun is still good purely for versatility alone but what makes running celestial even better and makes it better than most is still hunt and the nerf to celestial was 5% so a 35k dmg loss idk what you guys are complaining about when star eater twilight arsenal lost 45% so a 365k dmg loss

[@mosesslai]

it’s very likely tcrash dmg buff is unintentional bc it’s like a 93% increase and we have never seen a super dmg increase even close to this big before, but i really hope they don’t revert this change bc tcrash DESERVES the top dps super in the game, not only you do you massively risk your own life (or straight up sacrifice yourself due to certain encounters) AND on top you have to reposition yourself to do dps after if you choose

[@giantslayer9335]

@@SealFormulaMasteronce again? Did you not see the class numbers for salvations edge?

[@Purpletrident]

Song if Flame probably would've been over a million if you only snap

[@starkraven1148]

Only snap use necrotic, I’d like to see numbers for dawn chorus uses with song of flame since it buffs scorch 🤔

[@LordTonzilla]

​@@starkraven1148not much of your damage is coming from the scorch itself during Song of Flame, so probably not a lot.

[@Purpletrident]

@@starkraven1148 Dawn Chorus only buffs scorch damage, so it adds very little.

[@LlamaD2]

I believe wisp snap is the most optimal combo!

[@mosesslai]

@@LlamaD2i think snap only is better total dps while wisp snap is better dps

[@hahayay1086]

your prismatic matiodoxia build with bad juju is so good right now, its making onslaught feel easy

[@internet-hacker1440]

Is that a-an um-umbral engram...

[@RebelOfTheNorm242]

815k with twilight is still insane damage for a 1shot super. Im a titan main and im bummed the nerf was so damn hard, but thats still crazy good burst dps.

[@Zekkotek]

And it weakens too. It can't be a super thats safer to use than crash and weaken and do more damage I think the changes make sense tbh

[@1st_Atom]

no winters wrath with ballidorse?

[@sakuraema914]

It really sucks now, ballidorse is barely even affecting winters wrath. It has absolutely zero value after the latest patch. I really hope it is not intended.

[@jackburkel4119]

Did bro really forget that only snapping nets more damage for song of flame

[@FreznyL]

Stg and ur supposed to use claws

[@jackburkel4119]

@@FreznyL fr does this man even play smh

[@carnage9536]

It used to do less

[@FreznyL]

@@carnage9536 no just snapping does way more the nade is made for ad clear not dmg

[@carnage9536]

@@FreznyL using the grenade while the melee is on cooldown does more.

[@VulcanMaster3]

This damage test felt scuffed tbh

[@christopher_loren]

Why are you ranking them by total damage? DPS is more important when the dps encounter is

[@ahskhero]

that wasnt purpose of the video. tell me you are a hunter main without telling me you are a hunter main. everybody knows that hunters are damage machines. almost every world first was done with 4+ hunters. also, this video was just purely about the super. there are many other factors that boosts your damage. for example warlock, class item with apotheosis, vortex grenade, incinerate snap and nova bomb deals around 2 times the damage shown in the video. even 3 times when you apply weaken by a tractor cannon and getting radiant as well as activity surges and so on. ps my shift key is broken as you might have already guessed

[@christopher_loren]

@ahskhero ranking them top to bottom in total damage is misleading to players who dont understand it. They might think behemoth has the best super (they don't). By actual dps, nova bomb gathering storm thundercrash golden gun and blade barrage should be at the top.

[@sakuraema914]

Because this is only a super test. If someone would like to know how to deal damage, he/she should look for damage rotation videos. My point is you cannot deal optimal damage only by looking at a super test video anyway so no need to bother.

[@sakuraema914]

​@@ahskheroHow do you sprint in any games bro 😂

[@ahskhero]

@@sakuraema914 It happend today. I replaced my keyboard with my old one that I gladly havent thrown away. Hopefully it will last for the Dungeon today.

[@1ron_egg]

1. Glacial Quake: 2,168,051 2. Hammer of Sol: 1,166,372 3. Silkstrike: 1,066,830 4. Storm’s Edge: 985,118 5. Thundercrash: 971,518 6. Bladefury: 962,388 7: Song of Flame: 960,398 8. Nova Bomb: 845,303 9. Twilight Arsenal: 812,432 10. Burning Maul+Pyrogale: 777,761 11. Nova Warp: 766,127 12. Gathering Storm: 691,364 13. Blade Barrage: 634,609 14. Needlestorm: 571,296 15. Silence and Squall: 489,634 16. Spectral Blades: 390,082

[@andersbylund2753]

Is star-eater golden gun better or worse then nighthawk?

[@NyxaeraNS]

So basically, Titan back on top... (cries in Warlock)

[@Efectivtrailer2]

Crazy how far hunters have fallen

[@sakuraema914]

No they don't. Hunters still do most DPS for average players.

[@giantslayer9335]

IMO the fact that nova bomb outputs a bit more damage than twilight arsenal is absurd. Twilight arsenal takes longer to cast and using the relic axes for more damage only prevents you from using other weapons, whereas nova bomb is a fire and forget. That, and the fact that Thundercrash is the highest burst super in the game now, is why pretty much everyone’s gonna use it over twilight arsenal. A shame. Love the axes.

[@andrewclark3926]

Song of flame does more if you just use the melee charge and not the grenade

[@adacskipper]

It is insane to me that the highest damage super hunters can do is only 1 million damage... Meanwhile Titans are out here doing 2.1 million. Titans should NOT be the dps class; they already have the best burst damage AND survivability in the game but Titans were crying and shitting their pants so much when they got nerfed in Final Shape, and now we're back where we started: Titans being good at literally everything while Warlocks and Hunters play catch-up instead of playing the game. Titans truly are Bungie's youngest child.

[@sakuraema914]

Titan is not top DPS class even for now if you really understand damage rotation. The main issue for titan was not being able to deal damage from a far distance meaning you are not even possible to damage some bosses. A skillfull hunter still outdamages other classes.

[@wolfgang5359]

Something to go with that, good luck trying to use that against the Witness. I'll bet Hunter is still the only viable class in Salvation's Edge since you can't even reach with most of the Titan supers, Warlocks ones and the ones that can reach won't do much, and Tether or Twilight Arsenal can't even apply weaken so Golden Gun is the only viable option, yet still got a nerf. Thanks Bungie, a screw up yet again.

[@damsdee2214]

Imagine that. All of the hunter supers are out damaged by all other comparative supers.

[@ShiBBy1664]

Wow Thundercrash 😲 But no Moebius Quiver ?

[@arthur_pd]

Because that's not a DMG super

[@ShiBBy1664]

Huh, so what is it?

[@arthur_pd]

@@ShiBBy1664 Moebius is a debuff super on enemies

[@ShiBBy1664]

@@arthur_pd But the second shoot make damage When TWQ (void 3.0) came out it was a good dps and it could debuf too

[@arthur_pd]

@@ShiBBy1664 yes, it could do more DMG on the second shot, but the problem is this super is in the lowest DMG super amount all of them, and it's usage is not mainly for DMG, but debuff first

[@ixaldok8379]

God, Celestial Goldie just gets wiped out by almost everything. Sad

[@rubedo9068]

Not really considering a lot of them are roaming supers you are not using them in damage. Also nova and tcrash have way more downsides vs goldie so i think its okay if those 2 are better

[@thealldayspecial]

Exactly, it’s always about physical time and what you’re doing in that window, belting out a quick super that might not be the highest possible super damage can allow you to utilize the time window to throw in a ton more damage through weapons and ability action. Depends on bosses/activity and all that, things have their place over others etc.

[@afri2n]

celestial goldie should never be the highest/meta, it has a high floor for the little amount of effort used, it’s just point and click

[@fridaysatjons1097]

Nighthawk really needed a more severe nerf maybe 10-15% nerf to bring it in line.

[@CGormanR35]

@@fridaysatjons1097Nah thats just unrealistic 😂

[@NoTalker_]

what happened to golden gun💀

[@allenparnell6170]

Its obvious a couple supers still need help but I think these numbers are fine otherwise

[@kiritoequalspotato493]

Im pretty sure you do more with pyrogale when you direct hit instead of from a distance

[@mangocad189]

Seeing Gathering Storm being actual ass is wild seeing as it was THE pick like 2 years ago

[@SlongestKongest]

4:10 not exactly If they all did the same that wouldnt be balenced either. T crash should be the highest or one of the highest as its the most risky super. While golden gun is the quickest to cast + pre cast aswell as the safest

[@andreymavian3400]

I think Needlestorm is bugged, it was doing this much dmg on Strand previosly with no star eater. It's supposed to deal more dmg than both Celestial and gathering storm.

[@dankplagueis9253]

The strand version gets HEAVILY buffed by the evolution fragment. The special juiced up threadlings get hella stronger with that, but they also gain 0 benefit from star eaters. Just the initial burst

[@DaRealXotic]

4:08 And they say Titan aint bungos favorite

[@Ryuko-Matoi1023]

thank god the stasis super for warlock wasnt tested lol that would have probably been very pathetic

[@TBONES]

The nerf on twilight was so dumb

[@MrLongshotbob]

I've heard just snapping in Warlock super is best for total damage.

[@Quantum_Magnus]

Why do you hunters think celestial golden gun is bad now? It’s literally still the safest and highest dps super. No argument.

[@JDJ1213]

You should’ve divided the damage by the time for the super to complete for a fair comparison.

[@jamilsalman8321]

Could you try nova bomb with void weaken and facet of hope or grace whatever the different one is

[@bootlegbison3758]

Just triple spectral blade damage. Geez

[@penguinsarecool6357]

Doing only melees in song of flame is better than alternating

[@adrimides6091]

No shadebinder with balidorse? They buffed the shatter apparently

[@route77productions]

It’s bugged apparently. Ballidorse is not giving the 100% extra damage.

[@nunyabusnes]

I also think that, because he is a boss, he auto shatters, so the shatter from the super would be useless ( correct me if I'm wrong, I'm a titan main)

[@sakuraema914]

​@@nunyabusnesNot the reason. The buff gained from the exotic literally went down from 100% down to around 10 - 15%. No matter what do you deal damage against.

[@Sobergamer61]

Where is Raiju gathering? wtf?

[@TheBitingBat]

Star eaters is honestly not that worth it anymore imo. Yeah it buffs the super damage but that's it. I think now youre better off using super specific exotics that buff the supers themselves. Also rip raiju and ballidorse testing

[@thefourthhorsemanwithornam9314]

Oh nice they finally fixed prismatic blade fury.

[@iemcripple5619]

Might only need 2 t crashes for dsc

[@wetpigeon]

Did he not have 3x roaring flames for pyrogales??? I didn’t see the buff

[@simianhawk]

weren’t they saying they would change star eater thundercrash to make it worse than cuirras tcrash?

[@dankplagueis9253]

They did. But barely. They also forgot to account for the 10% buff of prismatic and the fact that star eaters buffs the shockwaves

[@BOMBstylePRO]

Can you do also thundercrash with synto (the arms)?

[@KingJC.]

From 1.6 mill to 800k star eater twilight arsenal

[@jjosiino]

That's wild that an auto tracking nova bomb with some unreal range does like 200k more damage than blade barrage, a super that requires you to be relatively close to the target for it to even get to 600k. (Also gathering storm, which is also not as easy to aim as nova bomb)

[@fridaysatjons1097]

Sounds like a hunter problem.

[@IHadPotential]

Nova was also useless for 4-ish years, BB wasn't

[@jjosiino]

@@IHadPotential So what, are you saying to balance it all out, bungie is now making BB useless for 4 years as well?

[@jjosiino]

@@fridaysatjons1097 okay???

[@SlyRocko]

Please for all that is holy bungie do not revert the TCrash dmg buff 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@Twelvis69]

no morbius?

[@smiffy.airsoft.ghillie5861]

Song of flame does more dmg with necrotic/claw

[@BBluenose]

Thunder Crash is bugged it got a 93% unintended buff

[@afri2n]

buff it even more

[@Mickey_Altieri_]

Apparentally Song of Flame does more dmg by just spamming melee

[@joker2pl713]

they hate hunters

[@bekfistwolf8248]

Man, bungie does not like hunters

[@Genscora]

Why'd they nerf nighthawk?……

[@Nexius_]

Can be pre-popped and works with still hunt

[@mochamp2234]

Dawn chorus dawnblade?

[@iAmViking94]

why use the artifact mod ? those aren't gonna be around forever , should've done the testing without the artifact and star eater

[@t.e.a4357]

because things get buffed and nerfed overtime, so rather than viewing the artifact mod as a seperate entity it's better to see it as a buff for this season alone

[@fridaysatjons1097]

Hunter supers at the bottom, where they belong.

[@joesaunders84]

Please bungo leave Tcrash alone

[@Reibenkuro]

No Ballidorse Wrathweavers test x.x

[@bullock-uv7bs]

Remember when we used ti bring hunters for ult damage lol... I dont who in bungie hates hunters this much theyve been nerfing them and giving them crap exotics for the past 6 months, and we rejoiced for still hunt synergy just to get gutted lol

[@DerrickParr]

7:05 Radiant gives Blade Barrage more projectiles with the Knock ‘em Down aspect Edit: I have been corrected I misread the description of Knock ‘em Down

[@bekfistwolf8248]

You don't need radiant for that effect, the only interaction between radiant and knock em down is that knock em down allows radiant to effect golden gun

[@DerrickParr]

@@bekfistwolf8248 I even double checked and still misread the description my bad lol.

[@diogoarvelos1797]

The stasis super Hunter in stasis class do more dmg !!!

[@Hira-lit]

yoo i was here live

[@FreznyL]

Your supposed to use claws on song of flame and never use ur grenade it does more damage that way

[@Han_Zolo_]

Pretty sure Thundercrash is bugged. It's doing almost 100% more damage than last season

[@YoungDyl99]

you can delete this comment now :)

[@JuggernautFit]

Doesn't Cuirass give thundercrash more damage the further it travels? I think in the test it wasn't that big of a distance, but I could also be remembering wrong

[@fluxtheexo]

overshield scales with distance, damage doesnt

[@JuggernautFit]

@@fluxtheexo thank you, I had that messed up

[@SquishyGore]

Shadebinder balidorse got buffed, where’s that at?

[@Drougee]

What did you use for stasis titan

[@Butidontactuallycare]

you didnt use falling star on thiunder crash? what kind of tsting is this, you didnt use the proper exotics, you didnt test debuffs and buffs, you just crumbled together some BS and rushed it out, im so glad i skipped ahead and didnt waste my time

[@LlamaD2]

I did use Falling Star, you can see it.

[@Butidontactuallycare]

@@LlamaD2ok maybe I need to stop skipping ahead and actually watch the damn videos, I won’t delete my comment so people who do the same can learn from my mistake, I sincerely apologise for the comment

[@tylernor]

Yipee

[@__NORO__]

Were are the titans saying that Titans are bad now because of some super nerfs, Titan still got the strongest super dmg

[@123TheCloop]

that super is only doing that much dmg because the crystals clump up on the side of the walls for the boss to cause shatter dmg, any other boss in open area those crystals dont shatter unless they make contact with the boss so the dmg of stasis super is basically ass for boss in the open and amazing for boss wall humping

[@__NORO__]

@@123TheCloop5 ults out of the top 10 from the video were from titan it’s not only glacier ist most often the ults that are strong or solid

[@GoldenChainsaw]

Glacial Quake has always had the highest damage potential but rarely actually does that much cause usually all the crystals don't hit boss. No one is ever going to use fuckin Hammers for DPS. Bladefury is a melee super so it doesn't work on most bosses. And Thundercrash is bugged and got a 93% buff by accident. And for the record high damage does not mean the super is good. Hammers might do a million damage but its not practical in most scenarios.

[@__NORO__]

@@GoldenChainsaw even after all you said the Void axe ult did ~810k dmg and Nighthawk golden gun did ~690k dmg the void ult can be used everywhere because you can use it on range as well and I does much more dmg then most of the other ults from the other classes

[@joshuathomas8158]

i remember when hunters were supposed to have the most super damage hence all the super damage enhancement exotics😔now our damage is sometimes not even a third of these low effort panic button supers (USING OUR EXOTIC)

[@izanagisburden9465]

We cant win.... and its not even bungie. When the players base sniffs hunter being good all hell breaks loose

[@Esther-303]

They have supers that facilitate rotations Golden gun is the fastest and lets you get right into rotations Silence and squall whilst weak is great thanks to freezing auto loading weapons, letting you do better cascade rotations and lucky pants ones

[@Esther-303]

@@izanagisburden9465it’s not just hunters, every class has gone through it Warlocks with starfire + well, titans with strand on release and now we’re back to hunters with prismatic

[@izanagisburden9465]

@@Esther-303 how long was starfire a thing a whole year.... how long was berserker whole year again... but the melee berserker was for 3 season.... How long did it take them to nerf still hunt? Not even a whole act let alone the whole episode for an year.... Synthos got nerfed on hunter.. all though they are already at reduced capability on other classes. But every other class kept full 80% buffing star-eater

[@ianmills6260]

@izanagisburden9465 god you are dumb. Celestial is still the best damage super by a lot. Still hunt was the most overpowered gun in the games history.

[@imberaeris6768]

Hunter Class Identity: DPS Supers… I do like running T crash so that will be fun this season.

[@Esther-303]

They have supers that facilitate rotations Golden gun is the fastest and lets you get right into rotations Silence and squall whilst weak is great thanks to freezing auto loading weapons, letting you do better cascade rotations and lucky pants ones

[@starkraven1148]

Probably will just stick to tether and pump as much weapon damage as possible.

[@imberaeris6768]

That’s fair. People often point to Hunter being defined by high damage super and mobility. Others arguably exceed in those areas. Not particularly unhappy, just an observation.

[@Esther-303]

@@imberaeris6768 since prismatic dropped Hunters haven’t excelled in high, one and done damage. You could even argue they haven’t since strand dropped with nova bomb and needlestorm outpacing them in the big number category Even then though hunters were still the damage class thanks to how quick their supers are allowing them to easily get into rotations. Their kits would also help massively with this. Stasis hunter has never been defined by ability damage but is consistently a top damage options because it lets people use rotations to their fullest

[@basedlordprime]

Man I am so glad I quit this shit game lmao.