Got my '24 Solar Octane OR 6MT in September. First time buying a new vehicle, first Toyota, no regrets.
@pryme20135 күн бұрын
These off road videos you do are the best. Hopefully you will run a lot more of them. Run a couple HD trucks through this course.
@oresteperez86154 күн бұрын
I think this is the only channel with detail conditions with a manual. And I agree, the fancy features are awesome af but bear bone manual you can’t beat! Hopefully Toyota upgrades the manual to hold more torque.
@feosu5 күн бұрын
Loving my 2020 TRD Off-Road more and more!
@archprime86295 күн бұрын
Love mine too, with the dual climate control and wireless charger.
@stevenpeterson72345 күн бұрын
My 23 Nissan Titan Pro-4x is the best truck!!
@mikefoehr2354 күн бұрын
@@stevenpeterson7234not in Canada
@marklagace57284 күн бұрын
@stevenpeterson7234 I had the same truck as you, and I traded in for a 2024 tacoma off-road because I have now more ground clearance and also the ride is way better.
@Offshore19775 күн бұрын
I can’t believe that differential skid plate is now plastic. That’s ridiculous. First they convert their gas tank skid plate to plastic and now this. 🤦♂️
@showmemorefunthings92085 күн бұрын
Gotta keep putting those micro plastics into our environment and ultimately into our bodies.
@lillianachannel5 күн бұрын
The gen 3 gas tank plate was plastic also. At least it is on my 2019 trd pro.
@tgkg5 күн бұрын
Cost cut.
@Offshore19774 күн бұрын
@@lillianachannel yes. That’s why I said first the gas tank and now this. What’s strange is the 5th gen 4Runner is steel both front and gas tank skid plate.
@toddmanning78444 күн бұрын
They didn't scrimp on components on the 5th gen. 4Runner
@joseeduardo43275 күн бұрын
Plastic skid plates for a TRD Off-road that costs $53k. Shame
@seanh23905 күн бұрын
other problems with plastic skid plates: (i) plastic does not age well compared to steel, especially when exposed to the elements, and (ii) it becomes more brittle in cold / freezing weather.
@robertedwards38225 күн бұрын
Not to mention Total designed it so if you have to remove the screen plate to do an oil change that may cost by about 100 bucks
@djjd30274 күн бұрын
@@seanh2390 just cheap corner cutting by Toyota. What a joke that is
@billehhancey64294 күн бұрын
@@robertedwards3822 Just get a Rival when they are ready (if not already)
@williekenk5 күн бұрын
Glad to finally see these tires in some real world testing! I’ve been thinking these could be a better fit for my actual daily driver uses case on my 4Runner. Great to hear they were largely a pleasant surprise
@nevv85815 күн бұрын
Thanks for the great review. It also has a somewhat useable back seat vs the TRD Pro with the weird seats. The manual has a built in anti theft device as well.
@paul7342 күн бұрын
I've driven the 2023 and 2024 off-road tacos for long periods of time, and I loved the fun i had in the 2024. The 2024 ride was so smooth, quick, better acceleration, easier to drive, better interior, and was amazing off road. The turbo sound was great. The 2023 acceleration was slow, drove hard, loud, and felt like i was driving a tank. It was rough driving it in Colorado. The 2024 will be mine in 6 months.
@shiftmotorsports98035 күн бұрын
You can get a ZR2 for $44k USD after dealer discount. That's the best off roader for your money.....since 2017. Considering I paid $41k for my 2018 (7 years ago), that's not bad
@TPowell125 күн бұрын
44k in 2018 is the equivalent of roughly 55k today. Money lost a lot of value over the last few years.
@paulm64815 күн бұрын
GM sucks
@Holden-McGroin5 күн бұрын
He’s saying you can get a new ZR2 right now for $44k.
@is65665 күн бұрын
@Holden… Clearly, in the GM world money didn’t lose as much value as in the Toyota world. 😃
@akilghosh5 күн бұрын
@@paulm6481Hahaha... I'm a Toyota owner. Have you seen the Toyotas recently?
@0nyxghost5 күн бұрын
Having a standard is unique, but the automatic has a lot more features. Sport shifting and crawl control give you options. The 3rd generation standard transmissions uses a keyed ignition vs start button.
@lc71924 күн бұрын
Great video in an honest evaluation of the TRD Off Road truck. Thanks Truck King.
@ralfpassing5 күн бұрын
I still feel that 53K are overpriced - but you are right that this is the best valued Taco
@robertedwards38225 күн бұрын
But not the best value midsize. That would be the Colorado ZR2. Made in the USA not Mexico. Can’t wait for the Trump Tarrifs🤣
@EdMiller-20165 күн бұрын
@@robertedwards3822 Best value midsize is not a 4 cyl Chevy...look no further than the V6 Frontier
@benhaze10104 күн бұрын
@@robertedwards3822 You can't wait to pay a lot more? Let us know how you will be feeling in 6 months :)
@brianmola7114 күн бұрын
@@robertedwards3822 I’d give that award to the Nissan Frontier instead. You can get a Pro-4X for even under 50 grand. And even better with the 2024 models since those will have discounts as the 2025 refresh models roll into dealer lots. Plus it’s made in the USA like the ZR2 but, unlike the ZR2, it has a V6 and it’s naturally aspirated.
@Ccristoff3 сағат бұрын
Thats why prefer the trucks we get in the rest of the world. Diesel engines, non hybrid, more payload and towing, way more simple and cheaper even though 30k for a truck is still a lot
@RyanLarivee5 күн бұрын
Loving my 24 offroad with the manual 20k km so far
@nismo370z45 күн бұрын
The payload capacity would be severely reduced with the bed rack installed. There should have been a sticker added in the door jamb showing the reduced amount.
@colingraham93795 күн бұрын
Call ME old school but 53 large is still A LOT of money lol. Great review tho, keep em comin!
@rustlesee5 күн бұрын
Why do manufacturers provide ground clearance at the highest point? That means nothing in off roading, you need to know your lowest point.
@is65665 күн бұрын
Because measuring at the highest point gives you more impressive numbers than measuring at the lowest point. 11 inches sounds better than 8 inches in the marketing brochure. They teach this stuff in Business School. 😃
@nicholassmith70485 күн бұрын
PSA: Canadian price includes freight and fees. The US price is just the MSRP.
@bojangles47044 күн бұрын
thanks player
@joseeduardo43275 күн бұрын
Where’s your old man to test the manual
@is65665 күн бұрын
Banned from manual Tacos. 😁
@billbob90214 күн бұрын
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! 😂
@KTB30073 күн бұрын
Lol
@javilink75 күн бұрын
Great review Steve!
@trey75755 күн бұрын
I’d tell Toyota to Drop some of the gimmicks and make it more affordable
@wd80854 күн бұрын
Affordable? Omg thats funny.
@ALMX5DP5 күн бұрын
1:08 yeah quite strange that not only does it lose a few hp and tq, but the RPM that torque peaks at is pushed out considerably from the automatic model. I think the auto makes peak torque (317lb-ft) at 1700rpm while the manual doesnt hits "only" 310lb-ft at 2800rpm.
@paultruesdale76804 күн бұрын
Reliability, fit and finish and plastic composite under body protection are my only concerns. It is a really nice truck, and I love manual gearbox. But the troubles Toyota have been experiencing as of late make me hesitant about handing over my hard earned money. Great offroad review. TK.
@christopherclark63834 күн бұрын
Excellent video, I drove a 22 and a 23 TRD SPORT 6MT now I’m in a 24 TRD SPORT automatic. It’s nice but I miss the GEAR CHANGING
@dannykrauskopf74044 күн бұрын
Excellent episode as always!!! 😁
@ejesoriginal5 күн бұрын
In the past, when you added Toyota's "off-road" package, it meant metal skid plates... That's pretty disappointing.
@eunhyuekpark61594 күн бұрын
Good to see you didn't pop one of those front internal bump stops 😁. Seriously though, great review and breakdown of the manual version of the new Taco. I'm personally gonna wait till they fix a few issues for the mean time though I really wanna test drive the new Ranger Raptor as well. Going back and forth on these 2 trucks.
@danbelden73545 күн бұрын
That TRd Off road is about equivalent to my Nissan Pro 4x, for the same price. But for their base price is what I got a fully loaded truck for. And my Nissan has metal skid plates underneath, and a a bunch of cameras. Maybe the cameras aren’t the best quality but they work well. And with the reliability issues with the new Toyotas, I’m glad I passed.
@user-tb7rn1il3q4 күн бұрын
The Taco is more reliable than the Frontier. Nissan is about done. They only have a year left. Good luck getting warranty work.
@danbelden73544 күн бұрын
@ the old tacos are more reliable. I don’t know what you’re smoking but I’ll try some. The new Tacomas and Tundras are full of recalls, motor,transmission, and front differential issues. They are way over priced for what you get.
@torquespec47214 күн бұрын
The Frontier has a better reliability score than the Taco. The updates for 2025 are fantastic on the pro-4x
@user-tb7rn1il3q4 күн бұрын
@@torquespec4721 It is still more reliable than the Frontier. They are not full of issues that you describe.
@billw84764 күн бұрын
@@user-tb7rn1il3q the 2024 Tacoma is widely known for being junk...stop being a fanboy and accept reality
@pryme20135 күн бұрын
Make sure not to downshift it😂 man growing up we would be beating the S out of all our old manual trucks and cars and no one ever broke their transmission and I never once changed the fluid back then 😂
@mzngerzful4 күн бұрын
But what can you say about the hybrid option? Can you feel any difference?
@Carl-fl6wlКүн бұрын
Nice looking truck like the package but how expensive tho ...ill stick with my 08 trd sport
@williampresley30005 күн бұрын
This truck with 30K to mod it. It would destroy the Pro or Trailhunter.
@liamrobinson20844 күн бұрын
Any bump-stops? Great work gents.
@timhufnagel12635 күн бұрын
Yes, if I were going to get a Tacoma that is the exact truck I would get. Even though the Trail hunter is cool I would never pay the price being asked for it.
@atg13385 күн бұрын
No 4 banger, over priced, bad trans trolls out yet.... shocking but they will be coming soon💯
@DouglasB653 күн бұрын
We are here observing😂
@Woodduck-p4s5 күн бұрын
Also there's more room between the front and back seats because it's manual transmission is not taking up to much room!!!!!!!!! As the automatic for some reason takes away 2" of room
@is65665 күн бұрын
Where did you hear that?
@fritty99275 күн бұрын
30k will get you a great suspension, better tires and a lot of money left over.
@is65665 күн бұрын
All the plastic pieces including bumpers replaced with high quality aftermarket parts improving approach and departure angles etc. agree!
@Nick-Louisiana5 күн бұрын
I just like the ARB bed rack
@bojangles47044 күн бұрын
damn fine work here
@paulm64815 күн бұрын
Great looking truck.
@SomannaMuthanna4 күн бұрын
Curious if you're ever run a 2WD with a rear locker through your tests? Like the Ranger or Prerunner? Would be cool to see how far they could go!
@is65665 күн бұрын
Steve, superb review my man! If I would be on the market for a Tacoma I would go for the Off Road manual but with the disconnecting sway bar option. All the plastic bumpers and skid plates would be replaced with steel parts. No bed rails though. Great review!
@Gooutside9865 күн бұрын
I would love to see a comparison of a 6 ft box and 5ft box for off roading in the TRD off road.
@stevenpeterson72345 күн бұрын
Hey Steve, you need to do another video with the 2024 Nissan Titan Pro-4x and actually do a good Video for the last hoorah!! Actually go throught the woods and hydroline with it!! Prove to everyone it can do it, don't just stop like you did before and say it's stuck!! Ive went through worse and it did amazing!! Don't lie to the people!!
@MichaelRennie-pg5mo3 күн бұрын
They stopped selling the titan a few years ago in Canada
@stevenpeterson72342 күн бұрын
@MichaelRennie-pg5mo Oh, well never mind then. That sucks!!
@denisleblanc45065 күн бұрын
Plastic skid plates? Really Toyota?
@BillyBobTup5 күн бұрын
No A-Trac? Or does it just kick in automatically, no switch?
@RJ28239Күн бұрын
As far as suspension is concerned, I've heard no front bump stops on the new trucks?
@TRDTalk5 күн бұрын
this is the trim to buy
@robertedwards38225 күн бұрын
Colorado ZR2 all day long.
@DoubleJPTBКүн бұрын
These are robust and very well powered trucks. The so called “4 banger” works very well, with all of its torque around 1800RPM, you have gobs of power at any speed. I’ll put it up against a “DATSUN” anytime👍
@johnmorales95844 күн бұрын
I feel likke thsat price is way too close to the colorado zr2 and thats before discounts. Colorado has more power, front lockers, nicer interior, better tires, etc... Thats worth the small increase in price.
@jasons.28254 күн бұрын
I just bought a 19' frontier pro4x with 51,000klm that cost me 35 thousand PLUS, less than this truck. I was originally considering a new tacoma but changed my mind. Zero regrets.
@ray98804 күн бұрын
For $50,000 canadian not a bad deal. Like the basic design, old school stuff. Also great selling point. Gotta mind to trade my 2019 Honda CR-V.
@paulm64815 күн бұрын
I say in a new Tacoma SR5 at dealer last week. I have a 2022. To me quality of interior was sorely lacking. Interior door covers in top were so flimsy and moved would make 1980s GM proud. Shift level jiggled in place. Glovebox was moving in place. They have a lot of work ahead to make this one as so,I’d as prior Gen. disappointing to say the least.
@libertystuffnthingsreviews8295 күн бұрын
How are the headlights at night?
@nightlybluez5 күн бұрын
Surprise this one didnt break like the last one
@jaysworld53785 күн бұрын
Can't get the 6 speed manual with the long bed.
@goldblueberries3265 күн бұрын
Affordable at 50k+ is NOT Affordable. 10-15k is overpriced...
@alt98744 күн бұрын
Totally agree.
@2URLex4 күн бұрын
50k IS affordable. Just how much do you bring home every year?
@sinister1845 күн бұрын
They gave yall another manual after you grenaded the last one? 🤣
@djjd30274 күн бұрын
@sinister184 I don't care what Toyota said. I watched that video, and the driver did nothing wrong. That was poor quality control by Toyota
@sinister1844 күн бұрын
Believe what you want. He totally missed the gear.
@treverlebarre55024 күн бұрын
@@sinister184the video proved he DIDN'T miss the gear. At that speed 1st great would've pegged the RPMs. Toyota tuned the engine down so the transmission could handle it.
@billbob90214 күн бұрын
@@treverlebarre5502Now, now boy’s! Get a room already. 😝
@sinister1844 күн бұрын
@@treverlebarre5502 I’m not arguing all this shit again. There’s threads of very thorough analysis on why it did what it did. Go read it. They f’ed it up.
@davidhillbrand23025 күн бұрын
Great review. Does the manual transmission come available on the longer bed TRD Off Road or just the short bed?
@JeffinColorado5 күн бұрын
Give it a goog!
@northerntoyota75845 күн бұрын
Short only. Been that way for many years
@davidwethington93205 күн бұрын
I have yet to see a TRD off road down here in the states for less than 50k. Even in a manual. Would have been interesting to see an automatic tested at the same time. My guess is the difference in gearing would make a big difference.
@hunterfrog86785 күн бұрын
I’m in Tennessee and dealerships have multiple trucks from 43-46k
@Aaron-zc9cw5 күн бұрын
Compared to the competition its a bad value. A TRD pro is a terrible value when compared to its competition.
@shiftymcgee93594 күн бұрын
Ford Ranger Raptor for under 60k is possible. Sure it’s a Ford, but money in the bank and warranties make up for reliability to a point.
@jessewintersteen47405 күн бұрын
I'd like to see this truck compared to the much wider more bang for your buck Ridgeline
@is65665 күн бұрын
Ridgeline would not make it through that course.
@BillyBobTup5 күн бұрын
@@is6566 Actually, to my amazement, he got a Ridgeline thru the left hook in a comparison against the Maverick Tremor. It struggle to get thru way more than the Maverick, which had much better angles and clearance. But still, it made it.Can't remember if it made it across the ditch or not.But I was amazed it did as well as it did.
@yengvang13685 күн бұрын
It is still a V4 twice turbo craps, how long it will last?. It is overprice for sure.
@americandude38255 күн бұрын
It’s probably good. I’d rather buy a gently used 5.7 tundra TRD pro for less tho. But that’s me. Great review. Happy Thanksgiving.
@dougpendleton12665 күн бұрын
Totally agree!!!!
@mcmehlen4 күн бұрын
I think at this point I’m shopping used for Tacoma. 21-23 model year
@cartopia61615 күн бұрын
$5k overpriced, maybe if it had the red skid plates? The fact that Toyota put plastic skid plates on an “off road” model is ridiculous.
@billehhancey64294 күн бұрын
You can get all 3 extra skid plates for about 1500 CAD, just went and priced this out, doing it right would be about 63k CAD (the rack is 4400 and I would much rather go for an ORO over a purpose built if its double the price) That being said, Ranger Fx4 fully tricked out is still 6k less after taxes and 3% less on financing at this moment in time if not paying cash
@Bogeypro2564 күн бұрын
CORRECTION... THAT ISN'T THE ONLY ENGINE AVAILABE INT THAT TRUCK. I have the hybrid in my TRD OR. Mine came with Wildpeak AT3Wa tires.
@jasonbaxter27334 күн бұрын
Only one available with the manual
@differenttigers4 күн бұрын
This exact truck in Canada is cheaper than a base 2025 frontier
@raymondowilson85374 күн бұрын
I just want the same vehicle with manual, Xtracab and 6ft bed. Please offer that toyota.
@TaterActual5 күн бұрын
Tacoma has been overpriced for a long time and the ridiculous mark ups by Toyota dealerships don’t help.
@paulm64815 күн бұрын
$43,000 for 2022 TRD sport 4x4 pretty well loaded. Not regretting it at all. After almost 3 years, zero issues, and rock solid.
@spiderbitedml3855 күн бұрын
4 wheel high on the fly man. Your supposed to switch to 4 low driving slow reasons why you have to move the truck to get it to go into 4 low
@adambower55915 күн бұрын
Crazy to think I paid 35k for my almost fully loaded 17 Trd Offroad 7 years ago....I'll wait until these manufactuer's feel the pinch of gouging before I pay that much for a truck, especially for a midsize. That's a 30k truck....not a 50k+ truck.
@hunterfrog86785 күн бұрын
35k in 2017 is equivalent to 45k just from inflation which is higher than what this truck starts at
@dcb9765 күн бұрын
@@hunterfrog8678my 23 base trd off road was 40K so sounds about right. I still got a power sliding rear window, I think that’s an extra now.
@geckogrant5 күн бұрын
Love my first gen. Still running strong 25 years later. I wouldn't consider anything made after 2017 with Toyota's hybrid crap, turbo engines, and plastic joke skids. Come on Toyota get it together.
@normanli70854 күн бұрын
After 2023*, for tacoma
@TheCr00k619 сағат бұрын
Sad to see a historically great truck becoming more expensive with plastic skids and a turbo that's gonna be a headache to fix with any problems. Cost to benefit with Toyota getting slim.
@bodyguard58795 күн бұрын
2024 was never a good value. Does a new transmission come with the new truck?
@is65665 күн бұрын
Not right away. Sometime later in the ownership cycle.
@NF09115 күн бұрын
Not for that price I’ll buy me a new frontier instead
@billw84764 күн бұрын
frontiers are superior, if quality and durability is your goal
@Hellvoisin5 күн бұрын
What Toyota did for me with their new trucks pricing and uncertain reliability...Made me invest in my 195k kilometers 2010 FJ , new suspension and brakes...
@Overkill_Kulture5 күн бұрын
Can't get enough of my Toyota Trucks nor my Monster Jeep XJ... appreciate the content as always ! #OverkillKulture
@jordancaleb57905 күн бұрын
Decent performance for the low price point nice truck!
@timricks11495 күн бұрын
Besides the plastic skid plates which is totally ridiculous to put on a off-road truck this is the truck to get if you want a Toyota. At 43,000 you can put better tires on there add some real skid plates and you have a fairly equited off road truck. All that extra stuff like cameras and drive modes is nice but not necessary. Older guys like myself got along just fine back in the day without all those wiz bang gizmos that trucks have today
@Offshore19775 күн бұрын
Toyota, just bring back the good old fashioned manual transfer case lever. At least for 5k off road trims.
@boomboompao4115 күн бұрын
You guys are definitely sponsored by Toyota. Just rename your site Toyota Kings. 😂
@is65665 күн бұрын
You should revisit this thought by first watching Stephen’s stress test of the previous gen 4Runner 5(??) years ago. Famous video.
@boomboompao4114 күн бұрын
@is6566 send me link if possible 😆
@richardford29085 күн бұрын
Taking a 60,000 dollar truck (tax plus tags)in the mud and up hills , doesn’t make much sense any more, sxs do the same. Most vehicle insurance will not cover the type of driving you show when damage happens, 60 k not something to burry in the mud. With all the accessories great for areas of snow and job commute.
@MikeR555 күн бұрын
What the hell is Toyota up too? Overpriced is just the beginning of the issues on these updated trucks.
@scotw672 күн бұрын
Plastic skid plates on the OFF ROAD version,😂😂😂 The Tacoma is an even bigger joke than it already was.
@BigHouse9075 күн бұрын
Here’s something I’m wondering. If Trump makes good on his Tariff threat, will Canada still get Tacomas tariff free? I assume they travel through the states to get there. Or do they travel by sea somehow and skip the states? People complaining about the price now, probably haven’t seen the worst of it yet. 😮
@zzsuprazz23 сағат бұрын
I think all vehicles are overpriced. I do agree with you that the trd off-road is a better value compared to the trd pro.
@bigfootswatching99865 күн бұрын
New Toyota junks with nothing but major issues and build quality!!!!
@Ryder6264 күн бұрын
Everything you did with that truck other than the muddy puddles could have been done in 2 wheel drive.
@AA-hk5tt4 күн бұрын
1200 pounds payload isn't enough to begin with, let alone at that price point for a pickup truck
@djfitzgerald21935 күн бұрын
Thanks Steve good review , but at that price point it puts the Nissan pro 4 x into play that has about the same off road features which one is the better value?
@is65665 күн бұрын
Nissan Frontier doesn’t have manual transmission.
@dangerfield855 күн бұрын
Stephen, where's the child seat test?
@is65665 күн бұрын
He didn’t want to embarrass Toyota with that in a Tacoma. Child seats just don’t fit. 😃
@TruckKing5 күн бұрын
We did test this previously, you can see it here kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmKwh2Zse95kmJY
@is65665 күн бұрын
Yeh yeh. Now you’re backpedaling Stephen. Just kidding. Happy Thanksgiving Day! Even in Canada.
@hugogonzalez36105 күн бұрын
A side from all the grow men wining like little girls on the coment section, good Damn video, good job on the reiew
@beexiong29953 күн бұрын
People complaining about price here should complain more about everything else due to inflation. Thanks to the government not toyota 😂
@djjd30275 күн бұрын
The biggest positive for this truck is that its the only one left in its class that offers a manual transmission. And that's the only reason its on my short list for my next purchase. Still way over priced but a lot simpler then all the absurd nonsense offered on the other models. As a side note according to some of Toyotas engineers on as to why the stick has less power its because they can't control how much power goes to the drivetrain components. Which tells me on the auto while its higher rated it doesn't mean a lot if the computer is pulling back on the power. Just my2c.
@stankyskunk8453 күн бұрын
I turned it off after you said 4 cylinder turbo
@Chris-ut6eq5 күн бұрын
Payload number is respectable considering it came with the ARB accessory from the factory. Anything under 1500lbs is painful though. The bed looks tiny so 1200 might be fine. Plastic skid plates are not good. I actually prefer alum as it's purpose to give before the rest of the permanent truck parts, it's a consumable. I'm sure I'll be disappointed in the price, but I'll wait until the end to be disappointed. Was pleasantly surprised that the price was not totally outrageous just normal levels of disappointment. Compared to the luxury trucks, it has solid value. Cameras: I have an F-150 and find have factory 360cameras lacking in clarity and while better than nothing, I'll probably want to add some aftermarket cameras that work at any speed. (ford prevents viewing some cameras at certain speeds) I like the conversation around value vs bling of high-end baja fast movers was balanced. That 30k savings gives you the liberty to spend on upgrades you actually want.