The Best Old School Reverb Trick?

[@Producelikeapro]

What are your favorite reverb tricks?

[@aleksamrkela831]

I create a gated snare plate without using a gate: I take a plate, make it short and timed to the tempo and compress the devil out of it. :D

[@markacton2254]

The Abbey Rd trick is always a good one to allow you to use more reverb and not let it get in the way. Also, occasionally I like to time the pre-delay on things like the snare to create a rhythmic effect. Sometimes I like to have a completely dry vocal and the reverb in parallel too. Mostly, I just don't know what I'm doing and hope for the best.

[@paulphilippart7395]

Great stuff,makes me miss using a couple of 2 track Studers with vari speed from 15 to 30 ips as pre-delay,usually some AMS delays,always needed another channel,into a colossal EMT plate,miss that motor creaking away like a tardis,...man I loved that sound,the pre delay was always the key for multi channel use, as much as authentic that colossal arrangement was,plug ins aint half nailing it.

[@ArielTavori]

I like putting DearVR inserts on my mono tracks to put them in a 'real space' before I send them to reverb (lately it's usually R4 or iRCam). Might be interesting to try this trick on my stereo tracks though..?

[@philippgrunert8776]

@Kevin i read CLA never Puts reverb on direct mics in Drums, only on the room and maybe overheads. I think this along those lines.

[@thimovijfschaft3271]

You can also low pass the predelays with different amounts, so that the instruments that are further away, sound further away in the reverb :)

[@elkolo2857]

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[@Wayne_Robinson]

That "all in the same room" sound really completes the live recording and demonstrates that simplicity is sometimes the best creative choice.

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much! Yes, amazing players does really help!

[@clairerogerpembery2920]

I love this - my reverb was either too complicated and confused or it didn't add any depth. Now my singer sits at the front with the instruments behind them. To make my life easier, I create 3 bus "layers": front, middle and back, and route all the instruments into the them parallel wherever I want to put them on the "stage". Each of these buses goes into my reverb channel.

[@amado5490]

I see. So instead of creating one delay channel strip for every instrument like Warren does (where you determine how delayed you want that instrument to feed into the reverb bus), you create three busses with a different amount of delay each and send every instrument to those depending on where you want them to sit on the stage. And those three busses will turn feed into the reverb bus. Sounds good!

[@squoblat]

Just for the record, I've clearly watched too many PLAP videos as I've found myself saying "I hope you're doing marvellously well" to people entirely unintentionally.

[@Czyszy]

whoa

[@markacton2254]

Ha! Me too!

[@petegreenfield8366]

Yep, me too...

[@bobbykanemusictube]

You're not alone. Just say'n.

[@toddgreenwood9631]

Except on fridays when I say "Do you know where your bass player is?"

[@TNTales]

I used to just put one mild reverb on the master bus to glue it together, but this will give me so much more control. Your videos are proof that you don't need a bunch of special gear, hour long tricks, etc. There are simple, beautiful sounding techniques you can use. So thank you. Please do more of these digitized versions of simple classic tricks. Please please please.

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much Chris! Yes, far more control this

[@pauldalby8196]

This is one of those things I will look back on as a real landmark for my mixing skills. I can see that often I end up indiscriminately painting a mess with reverb. What a great lesson to illustrate many things.

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much!!

[@wyshwood]

Extraordinary. Fascinating how good this sounds without all the usual fannying about.

[@josephmerrill2686]

You put the Sunset plugin on a track recorded at Sunset, the glorious meta!!!

[@lishonlouw1332]

alpha

[@Producelikeapro]

Haha Exactly! Thanks ever so much

[@Producelikeapro]

@@lishonlouw1332 Thanks ever so much

[@MixChecks]

It's Sunset inception...

[@jacquesboileau6087]

I am totally impressed! This is exactly what this song needed. This is one of the best reverb lesson I have yet seen on KZbin. Going from reverb bypass to on is such an eye opener (... or ear opener), it glues the mix so well and makes it cohesive. Really well done Warren!

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much Jacques! You Rock!!

[@ST-fl5fy]

@@Producelikeapro hello Warren I want to understand the pre delay better. In Logic I would place the delay on the track as an insert or send? And using the reverb as a send or busing that track to the verb?

[@jonowirion]

@@ST-fl5fy place it on the duplicated track and send that to the reverb is what i got from it.

[@joshuanewton1016]

I have never heard what that reverb plugin actually sounds like until now, and boy is it gorgeous!

[@Producelikeapro]

Yes it certainly is!!

[@Producelikeapro]

@Gerhard Schöner haha thanks ever so much!

[@chuckcostello5167]

@Gerhard Schöner I felt the same way about the spring setting. I actively thought, "that's the best-sounding spring reverb I've ever heard." Couldn't believe it.

[@bobbykanemusictube]

I have been trying this sort of thing for a while. With little success, mind you. Now that I know the secret, You can bet I'll be back at it. Thank you, Warren.

[@petesawchuk]

How great is this track, Bobby? I never tire of it!

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much Bobby!

[@Producelikeapro]

@@petesawchuk agreed! Great song!

[@splashesin8]

This is one I'll need lots of practice with wrapping my head around. I think I'll save this one. 😅 I will eventually get the hang of it. I feel so peculiar thinking about where to start creating reverb this way. I'm coming from an earlier world where for fun reverb, I'd be riding with my music making and other performing friends to go driving around to all of the fun natural spaces we knew of with built in environmental reverb, and record ourselves. We threw several after hours coed parties in various locker rooms and empty nunneries to just check what it would sound like in different places. Barn silos, to missile silos, Red Rocks, to Central City, mine shafts. In the empty museum waiting for the planetarium laser Rock Show. In the empty planetarium itself, and in the zoo, at different habitats etc. I miss those people so much I didn't realize the rarity of that kind of openness of cooperative experimentation and cohesion amongst that many people at once. I know this was just about reverb, but it reminded me of what fun we had building a performance (many types of performances) and then capturing bits of it to do again, keeping what worked and making it better each time. I think this place reminds me of the spirit of that bunch of people. ❤️

[@tstrip2010]

I really love how this video creates space out of "nothing" in the sense that the tracks are dry, and end up with life in them. Thank you!

[@MarcBecker_Music]

I love this trick. It works so well to put closed miked sources and dry virtual instruments in a virtual room and make them sound cohesive. Thank you for sharing, Warren.

[@peterbrusch1493]

This is a possible solution for all that reverb-horror, many of us use to get in. GREAT!

[@Producelikeapro]

Yes! Exactly Peter! Thanks for your great comment!

[@starboy2013]

Yeah death by a choices.

[@plastic__6640]

I love this sound of the reverb you create, you really did a good job!

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much!!

[@MixChecks]

Warren uses reverb marvelously well :)

[@Breakstuff5050]

I love this vocal performance!

[@unknownmusicman]

I've learned so many cool tricks by watching your channel. It's been an invaluable resource to me. Thank you!

[@zachary963]

Listening to you play around with the drum predelay settings, and I’d just like to point out: Sound travels through air at about 1 foot per millisecond, so if you want your drums to feel 10 feet behind the vocal, 10 milliseconds should get you there! Also, the more predelay, it might be beneficial to add more of the wet signal into a mix. Of course, that’s if you want a strictly “realistic” sound

[@gaganbakana]

It varies, but, generally, sound travels at about 1127 ft. per second. So, it takes 1/1127 seconds to travel one foot. you are right

[@anointed_ndking]

hey man, help me gain more clarity on this. normally a sound source seems closer if sent to a verb with some predelay and seems farther if sent to a verb with no predelay, hope I'm correct. but with this trick it seems like the sound sources with no predelay, like the vocal seems closer, and those with some predelay seems father. could someone who has this really figured out help explain better. I'd like to have some better understanding of what I'm doing so i could have more control

[@carnabystudios8267]

You never fail to make my day (and hopefully production life easier) with these pearls of wisdom. Thanks for your generosity Warren

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much

[@josephforrest3713]

Hahahaha, I love it. ALL the monitors lol.

[@FarhanKhan-fj6bv]

Can't thank u enough sir for all the help you r providing to all the budding producers. It feels more like interning at a studio rather than watching KZbin vids. U and Michael from "in the mix" r one of the finest in the game. Much love n respect ✊

[@Awen_Music]

Couldn't agree more @Farhan Khan! Warren always makes me feel like I'm in the studio with him (only I can rewind him at will!) Great "tone" to his vids. 😁

[@RC32Smiths01]

You know it's the best when it's still great despite being old school! Cheers for the work!

[@nohillforahighstepper]

Great mix. Reminds me of a very well mixed live performance in a venue with awesome natural reverb.

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much

[@markbeeson5674]

I love tips like this because it's so practical and I get caught up in having too many reverb options that can make mixing a song so much harder. Thanks Warren.

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much Mark!!

[@sinoptikband]

And really wanna thank you from my band account too! Mr Warren because of your video for the last 5 years I learned to mix my music to the level which we have now! Thank you! Stay safe and keep doing your great job! Sinoptik - occult rock trio from Ukraine

[@Producelikeapro]

Wow!! Thanks ever so much! I'm glad to be able to help!

[@lahattec]

This was an ideal track for this technique, I think, being so open and not filled with harmonic content. And brilliantly recorded, I must say. Thanks!

[@emmanuelgire8513]

Splendid demonstration of "less is more" approach. Very, very interesting... Thank you so much Warren.

[@Producelikeapro]

You’re very welcome!

[@michaelshreve6455]

That sounds freaking amazing! Thanks for that!

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much

[@peterpiper0815]

This song sounds really nice to my ears. Doesn't matter if the reverb is on or off :)

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much!

[@buddyalbert5808]

Yep, the vocal is on point. 👍 It’s so good I kinda like it dry and intimate. Great stuff Warren.

[@Producelikeapro]

@@buddyalbert5808 Thanks ever so much!

[@monsieurd.]

Thank you again Monsieur !

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much

[@crunchyfrog555]

This is a great cheat I've used on my thing of using electronic instruments (I predominantly fiddle around with synths and drum machines and so on). It's a great way of creating the illusion that these instruments were sat in a room physically and recorded thus. I've managed also to use it to split up things that very slightly clashed too by moving them a bit more away from each other. Though that's probably not something I'd recommend as that was more of a bodge on my part. I particularly love doing it by "building up". Start with the first track, add what you feel is right, then add another track, and so on. If you get it wrong or lose yourself, drop back. It's a great trcik and it absolutely WILL teach you to use reverb correctly and efficiently if you don't have it sussed.

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much for sharing Daniel! I really appreciate it!

[@askomiko]

I went "WHOAAA" the instant you switched to the Spring model. That's seriously the nicest spring plugin I've heard, got to get this one.

[@chrisallandrums]

Yes. This is great! Using the same reverb for EVERYTHING really makes it feel like a group of people playing a song. Using different spaces, reverbs, studios, whatever...really makes a disconnect. Thanks for this! Subscribed.

[@7thNoteOfficial]

Especially if you get it wrong mixing different reverbs this is definitely more safer and consistent

[@bert7548]

It's not natural to have more than one type of reverb on one song anyway, it's the case of too many cooks spoil the broth.

[@7thNoteOfficial]

@@bert7548 thats y songs of today have no space to breathe.

[@TomaMilteau]

Amazing ! Thnx for the trick and congrats for the band and the rec !!! 👏👏👏

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much

[@Firegardenmusic]

This is exactly I needed on my new mix

[@Producelikeapro]

Fantastic

[@marcelmiagi4579]

I love this trick. To my ears, it sounds a lot more natural too, which I think is something that is often taken for granted. Great presentation as always, Warren. Thanks brother.

[@ramspencer5492]

Awesome. There's a version of this where you create two identical reverbs.... Except one is set to only have early refections.... And it's counterpart is set to only use the tail. Then everything that you send to the reverbs can also have a different amount going to early reflections and the reverb tail... That in conjunction with pre-delays can make it sound even more real that everything is in different places in the same room.

[@olympiamusic2682]

This is my favorite video of yours! Love this method. TY!

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much! I really appreciate it

[@nostaticatall]

This is absolutely magical. Exactly the sort of technique I love. Thanks for sharing.

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much

[@BAADSessions]

That reverb plugin is stunning!

[@jaybyrddoggie]

I usually time the reverb with the BPM of the song. Then experiment with the millisecond values of pre-delay (1/4 note 1/8 note 1/16 note 1/32 note ETC) for each instrument and vocal in the song. Yea, it's time-consuming but the reward is the "everything in one room" sound that is so cool. But sometimes you might not worry about timing the reverb, and just add a little mix of a bused reverb to each instrument or vocal. If it works in the mix then that's cool too.

[@dennisallredjr]

I really like this approach it's simple and sounds great. I am trying it out right now on a mix . That sounds great brother

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks Dennis!

[@claudius3124]

Big thanks Warren for reminding me that old trick - I almost forgot... Here's another I'm sure you know : sometimes I put an expander (not a gate) before the verb and set it so as the signal gets louder, more of it is sent to the verb... works well with delay, of course! Have a wonderful day! ;-)

[@alaspooryorick9946]

Nice!! I'm definitely going to try that

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much for that great tip Claudius!!

[@Producelikeapro]

@@alaspooryorick9946 yes! Marvellous!

[@volfore]

Something like this was done for Heroes by Bowie wasn’t it? Three mics with three different thresholds or something like that. I could be remembering it wrong.

[@claudius3124]

@@volfore I didn't know that but I wouldn't be surprised ;-)

[@bryanharrison3889]

Brother, i havent seen anybody do this in decades... great trick from the vault my friend!

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much! I really appreciate it

[@hoborec]

Live recordings are the best, period! Great stuff Warren.

[@MrFelonyLoc]

I figured it out! I had to do bit of different routing tho since I use reason 11 , on each bus track I created a parallel ,then I sent each p channel prefader , turned each p channel all the way down then adjusted each send of the parallel channels along with a delay plugin on each p track. Boom! now i have not only everything in one room now I have front to back depth!

[@DigiMixAudio]

Rock on Nathan, and thanks for the welcome 32c Channel Strip tips!

[@glendabed]

Ah this is one of the best PLAP videos yet, so informative on a fundamental level, top banana!

[@Keygp]

You say it is old school, I say it is new cool! I have never heard abletons stock reverbs bringing life to sounds like with this trick. A feel of a space and unity of a mood are ears opening to me. It’s so close to those old Japanies ambient records where reverb as such is hard to grasp, because it’s feels like environment not a reverb. Thank you for this lesson!

[@7thNoteOfficial]

Im definitely going to try this in my songs

[@gary_stavropoulos]

Something so simple yet sounds great .

[@mdp303]

This reminds me of band recording on 8 track years ago with a single REV 7 reverb unit. Your guys play a bit better than we did but the recording you made has the feel of one of those recordings. Listening now I sort of miss recording that way. Don’t miss the stress of having to know your part for risk of cost overuns

[@GregKosic]

That's friggen AMAZING!!!! Warren I bow down to you thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! :)

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much! You’re very kind!

[@GregKosic]

@@Producelikeapro Quite welcome, I have learned a lot from you :) keep up the great vids so very greatful. Cheers!

[@Zenvo-uu9tm]

This reverb setup suited the song marvelously well

[@craigwestwood1]

Brilliant tips here Warren - thanks! I have often added too many reverbs and delays in the past and just ended up with a muddy mess. I'm a big believer in "less is more" in which case, and very often I've been doing much as you've done here, adding just one reverb, but love the extra delay tip on each instrument before it sends to the verb. Definitely something I'm going to be trying on my mixes.

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much Craig!!

[@AlejoFalcesTango]

Just to consider why magic happens and not give all the credits to the reverb technique, which is undoubtedly great. The nature of the sound of each instrument is great, the recording of them too, there is no compression so the song breathes freely all the time and finally the reverb finishes coloring like silk what was previously already very good. Excellent work in every way and thank you very much for sharing.

[@petegreenfield8366]

Your videos are pure gold. As a DAW beginner I've been acquiring plug ins like crazy. No more! Thanks Warren!

[@MixChecks]

Gotta stop the plugin buying addiction! :) You can join PBA (Plugin Buyers Anonymous)

[@dpinskey]

I love it Shows how easily you can use something so simple to provide cohesion and adding depth. A perfect demonstration the K.I.S.S. Method.

[@EISERMANN80]

Great tip. I think what’s confusing some people is WHERE exactly the delays for each individual track are inserted. As far as I got my head around it (without trying in my DAW), you do it like that: 1. Create a parallel channel for each track (or group) you want the reverb on. 2. Insert the delay on those parallel channels at a 100% wet, no feedback. Set the (pre-)delay time. 3. Turn the parallel channel’s volume fader down. 4. Send the parallel channel’s delayed signal pre-fader(!) to your reverb buss like you would normally do. Correct me if I’m wrong!

[@danepaulstewart8464]

That must be it. It’s straight forward and it absolutely will create what is shown here. 😎👍

[@baldy5683]

Very helpful thank you!

[@HitTheRoadMusicStudio]

Aaaaaand added to my reverb trick box haha thank you for sharing !

[@marin4311]

That's a real trick. I hope my next mix will sound marvelously well.

[@venturahowie]

I´m going to try it right now!

[@Producelikeapro]

Fantastic

[@StevieBoyesmusic]

Yes, I have done this, cool trick, I also sometimes EQ the sends differently HPF/LPF etc.

[@mikesparks3398]

Always learn so many little things from Produce like a Pro!

[@burresseffects]

Wow...this sounds amazing!

[@hopetea7670]

This is just brilliant. It actually can be deployed in more complex environments it gives a sense of real space.

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much

[@Qomplex]

Wonderful video. I will definitely give this a try!

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much

[@matzo570]

Great Video and Demo. I am one of these guys who is struggling with reverb and delay effects. So i will give this approach a try. Simple and effective.

[@drumsmut]

absolutely the best 18 minutes on recording/mixing techniques on youtube!! thanks a ton for sharing this ..it actually answered some question for me! thx again and cheers!!!

[@AndrewMooreLearningLicks]

This is exactly how I like to apply Reverb to a track and I love that you said it's an old school way coz I love the old school. Great video thank you very much for 👍🏼

[@splifmandidi]

Great trick! Thank you warren! Delay on 200ms for drums was phenomenal!!!

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much!!

[@es355lucille4]

Reverb is by far one of my favourite effects. Marvellous done Warren! Sounded amazing!

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much! Glad to be able to help!

[@gutekzpoligonu]

1. The song is great and has some cool old school vibes 2. Beside a cool trick with reverb, the instruments were recorded/sampled perfect and that shows how much depends on good quality instrument recordings 3. The reverb sounds great and even in full mode it doesn't sound like a "too much" spring - like if You crank loud the amp spring reverb.

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much

[@Producelikeapro]

I really appreciate the detailed comment!

[@nebstaism]

Sounds amazing... I’m definitely copping that reverb.. t-racks plug-ins are top notch

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much!!

[@nebstaism]

@@Producelikeapro thanx warren your vids are always inspiring

[@DavidGilden]

What a cool technique for utilizing a shared reverb - sending different groups or instruments with different amounts of predelay! absolutely amazing thank you Warren!

[@rickspyder6159]

Another killer trick ....cant wait to try it

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much! Glad to be able to help

[@GingerLeftyGuitar]

I was practice mixing using one of the Cambridge multitracks, and I was getting there with the mix, but wasn’t totally happy. Implementation of this trick totally put me in the happy place. The track I was mixing was live recorded too in 1 take. This technique works a treat for that type of material

[@KipCount]

This is fantastic. Definitely gives it an instant 60s vibe. In the past I've used an empty hollowed out bedroom for a reverb chamber, and I use to love to send tracks out to it. It was definitely a poor man's chamber reverb, but it was quirky and I loved it. I don't have that luxury anymore, no empty bedroom, but this plugin really gives me some of that back again, in a much better sounding room of course, but still with lots of personality.

[@edmoss2020]

Eveytime I hear this it makes me smile sounds so good, sounds like a record made in the 70s..👍

[@TheStuderman]

My type of mixing. Excellent. Sounds right.

[@kevgresham8407]

OMG Thankyou so much for this Video .. I was mixing a track today only with the one Room IR reverb I made and this trick has made my mix work ...Thank you so much for sharing your Knowledge

[@AxPellegrini]

ow totally cool ! professional, clear, concrete explanation, and sympathetic as ever.

[@brendanchaplin5578]

This is absolutely genius Warren!

[@ThisMichaelBrown]

Cool! That was fun....sounded very organic and natural

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much

[@Cosmonaut1999]

Thank you Warren this simple trick has completely opened out my mixes and given them breadth and depth .

[@Producelikeapro]

You’re very welcome

[@tutubeos]

Wow! Awesome Warren! 🤩

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much

[@corymiller9742]

So helpful for someone like me who can only do overdubs! Helps me get one step closer to a live sound

[@pauljonesesquire]

It puts me in mind of The Band, sounds great.

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much Paul!

[@paulcamus8944]

what a great exercise to get students to understand the effect of predalay in the mix itself. Thanks!

[@Producelikeapro]

Absolutely!!

[@thesuncollective1475]

Helps when you got a great vocal too!

[@arielsmusic4229]

This is the concept what i need "All in one room" Thankyou sir

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much

[@LucasAlvesMusic]

Warren, what's the name of the song? Just beautiful... And how can I find songs you've produced/mixed? Is there a sort of portfolio? Love the videos

[@danielmiller5521]

Whoa, the t-racks verb works!

[@rfuza]

I always thought that was the obvious way to apply reverb for a natural live sound but didn't know that it was a old school trick. Nice!

[@markshortall3384]

Wow thats an incredible trick

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much Mark!

[@TerenceKearns]

Wow. This was a revelation to me. Love it.

[@ZickFingerboards]

Great sounding piano

[@yungstigmatamanne]

wow thats crazy imma abuse this technique

[@liamrocks0]

Wow never even crossed my mind using pre delay to send the track to the back of the reverb mix! Genius!! Thanks Warren 🔥😛

[@zackfreedman2486]

Wow, I just started doing this last year, figured it out myself... To hear from a pro like you that it's "how it's done" is a great feeling! Love your videos!