Andrew Scheps Vocal Mixing Trick | Get Your Vocals To Cut Through The Mix

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@artie
@artie Жыл бұрын
This brought back the warmth that I was trying to get to along with that break through on my mixes. I had trouble with high end and this actually solved that issue for me. Thank you!
@Seanrayamusic
@Seanrayamusic 5 жыл бұрын
Great tip - but just to clarify, the compressor is compressing the whole signal still but just reacting to the information above 1khz.
@GreenLightSound
@GreenLightSound 5 жыл бұрын
Right. I may have misspoke in the video. Thanks for the clarification.
@birdisthezv
@birdisthezv 5 жыл бұрын
It's levioooosaa not levio-saa
@Tazmanian_Ninja
@Tazmanian_Ninja 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed. So it's more a case of the higher frequencies triggering the compressor more than the lows. It's like a very low-tech / basic de-esser, though not a very transparent nor a particularly effective one. The that little knob/pot on the LA-2A is somewhat like a tilt-eq. But it has a peculiar frequency curve, and it may even be level-dependent. I know that from a very obsessive plugin analysis session I did a while back. Bonus-fact: Chris Lord-Alge does sorta the same. He boosts the highs on vocals before compression, for that exact de-essing effect.
@loredanamassini3656
@loredanamassini3656 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tazmanian_Ninjahappenin because there too much highs and the compressor over react ?
@siriusfun
@siriusfun 3 жыл бұрын
The irony in your comment is delicious. lol It is only compressing ("reacting" as the OP wrote) the high end. The fact that it's not a sidechain is irrelevant.
@CarlosGunX
@CarlosGunX 4 жыл бұрын
Pro tip: On the Pultec EQP-1A, the bandwidth control affects the "hi boost" control, NOT the "low band"....
@LetMeDieLord
@LetMeDieLord 4 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to write that :D
@rafalvarezsevilla
@rafalvarezsevilla 4 жыл бұрын
Pro Tip: Read Manuals =D
@Tazmanian_Ninja
@Tazmanian_Ninja 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. It's an unfortunate position they did of that bandwidth control, when they made the Pully. Confusion-wise akin to the LA-2A's position of the output gain on the left, leading many to think it controls the input gain. And then there's the 1176, with its counterclockwise attack and release controls 😅
@franciscomoralesmusic
@franciscomoralesmusic 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutly! I see many people making and commenting the same mistake ;}
@analogdreamertheproducer4850
@analogdreamertheproducer4850 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe that ppl call them self engineers snd copy past setting eq without even knowing how they work..
@hakangurdol
@hakangurdol 2 жыл бұрын
Used this trick, it's the best deal for your artist, thank you so much, i appreciate you, this was the most common problem for not comfortable hearing the artist in the mix, after your couse tip videos i start look much more diffrent to the mix stage.
@burningmall9277
@burningmall9277 5 жыл бұрын
works! althought the bandwidth knob on a pultec works in conjunction with the hight freq boost, not the low end.
@RiotHomeRecording
@RiotHomeRecording 4 жыл бұрын
That’s right!
@lalocura1828
@lalocura1828 3 ай бұрын
Attenuating on the pultec is sooooo good. It cuts so hard but in such a clean way. And it's curves are insane.
@mikaelsehlin
@mikaelsehlin 9 ай бұрын
These techniques are insane.. Thank you so much for extremely valuable content 👌
@conanliquid
@conanliquid 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video and well explained. I have seen Andrew apply this technique on other sources as well as vocals. It’s very old school and I love it. Schepps is a legend.
@MrRigazzi
@MrRigazzi 2 жыл бұрын
where i wanna see him do it
@kronk358
@kronk358 3 жыл бұрын
Its crazy that as you bring up that second channel of the same vocal you can hear it better. Who would have thought that more volume would make it easier to hear over the rest of the music? Thats some magic right there.
@GreenLightSound
@GreenLightSound 3 жыл бұрын
You mean like nearly every other parallel process?
@morbidmanmusic
@morbidmanmusic 3 жыл бұрын
@@GreenLightSound not when you actually compensate for that volume gain beyond the effect. .... come on. He is right. take it.
@matthewhaddad2897
@matthewhaddad2897 3 жыл бұрын
@@GreenLightSound You know you're supposed to compensate for that, right?
@chrisl.6158
@chrisl.6158 3 жыл бұрын
my thoughts exactly.
@hinder10709
@hinder10709 Жыл бұрын
This guy gets it.
@musician1971a
@musician1971a 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! It works really really well on the kind of music I usually mix and it's so fast! The great thing is that Studio One has both these devices inside the stock Fat Channel plug-in, including the frequency knob on the LA-2A emulation. For the adding of harmonics you need 3rd party though, but with the stock ones it already works really well!
@GreenLightSound
@GreenLightSound 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Nice Fat Channel tip - it's a great tool.
@MukeshRathore
@MukeshRathore Жыл бұрын
It really makes a difference! Thank you for sharing.
@Chaos-Dynamics
@Chaos-Dynamics 3 ай бұрын
Nice technique, works great 😊 No wonder that Andrew mixes in the box with so much parallel busses.
@draculea3669
@draculea3669 Жыл бұрын
wow that help me a lot in my mix! you are the man!!
@canaan_perry
@canaan_perry 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah -- really brings on a big 'FM radio vibe' when you dial the processing into the mix.
@ziar3637
@ziar3637 Жыл бұрын
Wow. Just wow. What a great video. That would have give me millions of headaches with sidechain eq and worse parallel compression but now i know this trick!
@GreenLightSound
@GreenLightSound Жыл бұрын
Happy to help!
@GRILLARECORDS
@GRILLARECORDS 2 ай бұрын
Organic & natural always better 🙏🏽✨
@Bthelick
@Bthelick 3 жыл бұрын
If you don't compensate the dry level when adding any copy in parallel, altered or otherwise, is gonna add volume. It's the same as adding nearly 6db to the fader (doubling a signal), the comparison is moot as its always gonna sound louder / better or 'cut more' as you say.
@dawmix
@dawmix 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Though when I tried this I am watching my levels and not seeing a visible increase in vocal or overall volume but I understand how I have to be aware. Still, it does seem to sharpen my vocals, even them out and help them sit in the mix, more legible.
@slayabouts
@slayabouts 3 жыл бұрын
@@dawmix are you watching the levels on a vocal bus that the parallel channel is also being sent? There’s no way you could increase the level of a parallel track and it not essentially be adding gain to the overall signal. I really think this trick works because it’s just adding more volume to the vocals. I’d be interested to see if there was a way to do this inside of single plugin with a mix knob that you could throw on the main vocal and see if it actually works
@dawmix
@dawmix 3 жыл бұрын
@@slayabouts this discussion is important. Buses are necessary for various reasons but add gain into the mix which is seductive. A fair thing to say? If the fx is in the bus then the more volume on the bus the more fx. But the you have to lessen the track volume to compensate. And the there is gain staging so once that is set then bus and track volumes must be worked until volume/effect balance works with the rest of the tracks. This is how I interpret it.
@dawmix
@dawmix 3 жыл бұрын
@@slayabouts thank you for your reply. Very much appreciated.
@MrBluesmanJunior
@MrBluesmanJunior 2 жыл бұрын
I have to agree. I've been waiting until the end of the video to find out what the "trick" is - when it's just essentially adding volume and a bit of processing to the vocal. I'm not saying that adding volume alone would have the same result, I'm sure the EQ/compression step makes a difference, but mostly it's adding volume - which you can clearly hear and see when he starts riding the fader. The difference in volume is huge.
@TheeRocker
@TheeRocker 2 жыл бұрын
The pristine Presonus PulTec - The stock EQ and Compressor are very clean and transparent.
@MrMatthewKerr
@MrMatthewKerr 4 жыл бұрын
This has worked perfectly on the mix i'm working on. Holy balls. What a neat trick. Thanks very much for sharing and replying to everyones questions in the comments. AND WHAT TIMING to find this video now just when i needed it . . . i'm proud of you, I'm proud of myself, proud of Andrew Scheps.
@GreenLightSound
@GreenLightSound 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to help, and glad that the timing worked out for you!
@scrummyvision
@scrummyvision 2 жыл бұрын
it's such a cool technique. glad it helped you out so much, i'm going to be looking for a chance to use it, especially since i just got the waves LA2A
@prodpenthouse
@prodpenthouse 2 жыл бұрын
I'm saying dude. This shit just changed the game
@johnisrael5183
@johnisrael5183 2 жыл бұрын
m using a Waves NS1 Mono API 560 Vocal Preset R Dessor Dave P setting against Harshness and Last in my Vocal Change.... I've got the VLA 3A by Black Rooster (Pretty Much the BEST) Vocal and Bass Guitar Plugin online....) Going into my UAD 476 Volt with 48+ Phantom, 1176 Compressor and Vintage Effect in ... Honest sounds like I'm singing into an analog Mixer with Gate and a UAD Textronic LA2A...all in the Box on the Computer Once again....I do not claim to know more than Andrew Scheps...but....his Idea might work better if your Using a $3000 interface with a $2000 LA2A comp.....so in the Box with a great vocal interface like Volt....trust my vocal chain sounds warmer, clearer and is cutting through my mix sharper and smoother than your suggestion above...no offense I just went into my Vocal Closet Set up and shot your Idea against mine...I won....LOL ....the Black Rooster VLA 3A, API 560 EQ and Volt 476 UAD Interface for vocals...three must...if you want to compete with the $200,000 studios.....as far as vocals....
@Bizarrien
@Bizarrien 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much man this made a HUGE difference in how my vocals cut through the mix
@GreenLightSound
@GreenLightSound 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to help!
@sixstring3639
@sixstring3639 4 жыл бұрын
Suddenly recording life just got easier. Thanx.
@lunarlabaudio
@lunarlabaudio 3 жыл бұрын
I just found your channel today and I’ve watched like 5 videos. Love the short, straightforward demos and explanations. Keep it up. Subscribed!
@GreenLightSound
@GreenLightSound 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad you like the channel.
@keyscook
@keyscook 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool... I've always used a multi-band compressor - excited to give this technique a test, always love experimenting with new techniques. Thanks & Cheers from Seattle!
@cipsleten505583789
@cipsleten505583789 Жыл бұрын
I am getting startled by how excited I'm starting to be about these nob-turning videos hahaha
@natejohnson91
@natejohnson91 5 жыл бұрын
Pultec example sounds SO much better than "stock" example though! :D
@GreenLightSound
@GreenLightSound 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed, and that's the one I use. But you can get by with the stock plugins if you don't have a decent Pultec emulation.
@benjaminmagambo3849
@benjaminmagambo3849 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like those graphic eq have created a serious phase shift and resulted in some phase issues in the “stock” case
@dulla8469
@dulla8469 4 жыл бұрын
the pultec boosts and attenuates in a different way than any other eq, its not like any graphic eq,
@entity9588
@entity9588 3 жыл бұрын
Pultec has tube emulation which will result in saturation and he has 2 of them. Saturation helps things cut through the mix also.
@AlekVila
@AlekVila 3 жыл бұрын
@@entity9588 Yep. I was about to add this comment. If you add experiment with a saturation plug in or two you might get close.
@alvagoldbook2
@alvagoldbook2 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve always had so much trouble mixing vocals. Thanks so much for this tip
@GreenLightSound
@GreenLightSound 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to help!
@MarcoTrivellato
@MarcoTrivellato Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the valuable information. I would like to highlight that the "Bandwidth" control exclusively influences high frequencies, with no impact on the lower frequencies.
@TerenceKearns
@TerenceKearns 3 жыл бұрын
I just tried this on a mix and it works great. Awesome trick. I just put it on a send and feed it as needed.
@johnisrael5183
@johnisrael5183 2 жыл бұрын
m using a Waves NS1 Mono API 560 Vocal Preset R Dessor Dave P setting against Harshness and Last in my Vocal Change.... I've got the VLA 3A by Black Rooster (Pretty Much the BEST) Vocal and Bass Guitar Plugin online....) Going into my UAD 476 Volt with 48+ Phantom, 1176 Compressor and Vintage Effect in ... Honest sounds like I'm singing into an analog Mixer with Gate and a UAD Textronic LA2A...all in the Box on the Computer Once again....I do not claim to know more than Andrew Scheps...but....his Idea might work better if your Using a $3000 interface with a $2000 LA2A comp.....so in the Box with a great vocal interface like Volt....trust my vocal chain sounds warmer, clearer and is cutting through my mix sharper and smoother than your suggestion above...no offense I just went into my Vocal Closet Set up and shot your Idea against mine...I won....LOL ....the Black Rooster VLA 3A, API 560 EQ and Volt 476 UAD Interface for vocals...three must...if you want to compete with the $200,000 studios.....as far as vocals....
@SCBeatty1
@SCBeatty1 8 ай бұрын
I have a mix that's just been killing me because there are stacks of vocals and a lot going on. Problem solved immediately. Even the vocal that was standing alone with one instrument in the beginning. All of the sudden sounds twice as good. Thank you!
@GreenLightSound
@GreenLightSound 8 ай бұрын
Happy to help!
@petervad
@petervad 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid, thanks. Would have been great to also have heard the processed vocal signal by itself in order to gain better understanding as to why it makes such a difference to the final mix. Cheers.
@johnisrael5183
@johnisrael5183 2 жыл бұрын
m using a Waves NS1 Mono API 560 Vocal Preset R Dessor Dave P setting against Harshness and Last in my Vocal Change.... I've got the VLA 3A by Black Rooster (Pretty Much the BEST) Vocal and Bass Guitar Plugin online....) Going into my UAD 476 Volt with 48+ Phantom, 1176 Compressor and Vintage Effect in ... Honest sounds like I'm singing into an analog Mixer with Gate and a UAD Textronic LA2A...all in the Box on the Computer Once again....I do not claim to know more than Andrew Scheps...but....his Idea might work better if your Using a $3000 interface with a $2000 LA2A comp.....so in the Box with a great vocal interface like Volt....trust my vocal chain sounds warmer, clearer and is cutting through my mix sharper and smoother than your suggestion above...no offense I just went into my Vocal Closet Set up and shot your Idea against mine...I won....LOL ....the Black Rooster VLA 3A, API 560 EQ and Volt 476 UAD Interface for vocals...three must...if you want to compete with the $200,000 studios.....as far as vocals....
@gidiyongidi17
@gidiyongidi17 4 жыл бұрын
It's only am searched this kind of trick 💓after some years
@tjmitch57
@tjmitch57 Жыл бұрын
Great information btw I listen to quite a number of these tutorials & Jeff song 'paralyzed' by far my favorite will look this songwriter/preformer up.
@crisrose521
@crisrose521 Жыл бұрын
This is nice though it’s a bid vague regarding what effects are ( if any ) already on the lead vocal track . . Does this effect the reverb ? A side chained reverb ? An exciter ? How would this technique effect those effects already on a vocal track or should you add other effects AFTER this is used ?
@whisperthiefmusic
@whisperthiefmusic 3 жыл бұрын
This is pretty much what the "Thrust" setting on the API compressors does I think? Clever side chain stuff.
@johnisrael5183
@johnisrael5183 2 жыл бұрын
m using a Waves NS1 Mono API 560 Vocal Preset R Dessor Dave P setting against Harshness and Last in my Vocal Change.... I've got the VLA 3A by Black Rooster (Pretty Much the BEST) Vocal and Bass Guitar Plugin online....) Going into my UAD 476 Volt with 48+ Phantom, 1176 Compressor and Vintage Effect in ... Honest sounds like I'm singing into an analog Mixer with Gate and a UAD Textronic LA2A...all in the Box on the Computer Once again....I do not claim to know more than Andrew Scheps...but....his Idea might work better if your Using a $3000 interface with a $2000 LA2A comp.....so in the Box with a great vocal interface like Volt....trust my vocal chain sounds warmer, clearer and is cutting through my mix sharper and smoother than your suggestion above...no offense I just went into my Vocal Closet Set up and shot your Idea against mine...I won....LOL ....the Black Rooster VLA 3A, API 560 EQ and Volt 476 UAD Interface for vocals...three must...if you want to compete with the $200,000 studios.....as far as vocals....
@ParadNorthProd
@ParadNorthProd Жыл бұрын
The same effect can be achieved more easily by simply using a multiple band compressor, compressing only the upper-midrange band, and then blending in parallel. This was something he did in HW before multi-band compressors even existed.
@boriszhigarev
@boriszhigarev Жыл бұрын
you're correct. there's a lot of technical ways to do the same. but pultec & LA-2A are famous for their saturation and "musical color". So, i guess, if you need some extra warm and crisp you'll do this way:)
@TomiSimatupang
@TomiSimatupang Жыл бұрын
1. Multiband compressing introduces phase shifts and flips (or pre-ringing) at the crossover frequency. The Scheps method comes with different phase issues. 2. LA 2A is a wideband compressor no matter what - making it less reactive to the low end does not mean it doesn't compress it. Similar effect - kind of... but the sound difference is significant enough to try both imho.
@ParadNorthProd
@ParadNorthProd Жыл бұрын
@@TomiSimatupang You're right. But had multi-band compressors been largely available when this technique was created, I suspect they would have gone that way. This 'trick' is a byproduct of an era where you had to string together 3 expensive boxes to do what he wanted...have a very dense mid-range in the vocal. So we glamorize it because AS uses it, but not because there isn't some other way to do something similar (and potentially faster / less resource intensive.) FWIW - I use it sometimes as it's in my template, but it's worthwhile for people to understand what is really going on so they can decide for themselves (and the song) what they should do. :)
@TomiSimatupang
@TomiSimatupang Жыл бұрын
@@ParadNorthProd Thanks. I agree that it is very old school, but it does sound much better than a multi-band compressor to me. The old school method tends to sound in your face, crisp with a lot of character. I don't care who invented that, it just works :) A friend of mine does the multi-band thing to every vocal and I hate it 80% of the time. I've tried it, used linear band and dynamic eq, too. Especially with non linear phase mb compressors I get weird phasing effects or just a hollow, unnatural mhf or disconnected consonants.. How do you get it to sound nice?
@earlludwig3614
@earlludwig3614 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool vocal treatment!
@jdutra
@jdutra 4 жыл бұрын
wow, it's like reacting to magic happening on 3:50. Fantastic video, thanks for sharing!
@GreenLightSound
@GreenLightSound 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@nicolasbarroso
@nicolasbarroso Жыл бұрын
Excellent! Thank you!
@PeterBatah
@PeterBatah 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing your time and Andrew's technique with us. Just so I understand correctly. You are sending the lead vocal to a buss where the plugins reside. Obviously, I am a little late to the party. Oh well, better late than never!
@GreenLightSound
@GreenLightSound 3 жыл бұрын
That's right - a copy of the vocal is sent to a buss or this processing.
@wisetree6651
@wisetree6651 Жыл бұрын
That's so helpful, way improved my vocal mixing output quality. Thank you so oooo much 👍👍👍
@sonicpalacevideos
@sonicpalacevideos Жыл бұрын
Looks good, I'm gonna try it!
@iavingeorge9575
@iavingeorge9575 2 жыл бұрын
i tried this in the drum group too works perfect
@elpkhan
@elpkhan 3 жыл бұрын
A good mic , compression , aural exciter EQ and maybe a de esser . . If you compartmentalize the range of all the instruments In the mix , you will create clarity . Making every instrument as fat as possible causes mud and sound cancellation in a dense mix . Strong left and right panning leaving the vocal in the middle also makes the focus on the voice more apparent . The fewer instruments the fatter (. More overtones )you can make each instrument in the mix
@hummarstraful
@hummarstraful 3 жыл бұрын
Arguably the greatest mixer of all time, CLA disagrees. He doesn't compartmentalize or "carve out" frequencies. I fact he preaches against that. See the Waves Audio video they released a few weeks ago about about "vocal mixing myths."
@sidmazzei
@sidmazzei 4 жыл бұрын
amazing trick. thank you
@namas3544
@namas3544 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing stuff man !!!
@MikeLuke
@MikeLuke 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, that's a great technique. Well explained.
@thecrushingdays
@thecrushingdays 2 жыл бұрын
Nice break-down! Actually kinda dig the sound of the stock plug-ins more.
@JesseQuinn
@JesseQuinn 2 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate this knowledge! Trying to use my Beta58 best I can.
@kcsounds
@kcsounds 5 жыл бұрын
Nice tip. Thanks for sharing
@komet1536
@komet1536 2 жыл бұрын
Real eye-opener for me, this definitely goes to my mixing toolbox. Many thanks.
@GreenLightSound
@GreenLightSound 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@johnisrael5183
@johnisrael5183 2 жыл бұрын
m using a Waves NS1 Mono API 560 Vocal Preset R Dessor Dave P setting against Harshness and Last in my Vocal Change.... I've got the VLA 3A by Black Rooster (Pretty Much the BEST) Vocal and Bass Guitar Plugin online....) Going into my UAD 476 Volt with 48+ Phantom, 1176 Compressor and Vintage Effect in ... Honest sounds like I'm singing into an analog Mixer with Gate and a UAD Textronic LA2A...all in the Box on the Computer Once again....I do not claim to know more than Andrew Scheps...but....his Idea might work better if your Using a $3000 interface with a $2000 LA2A comp.....so in the Box with a great vocal interface like Volt....trust my vocal chain sounds warmer, clearer and is cutting through my mix sharper and smoother than your suggestion above...no offense I just went into my Vocal Closet Set up and shot your Idea against mine...I won....LOL ....the Black Rooster VLA 3A, API 560 EQ and Volt 476 UAD Interface for vocals...three must...if you want to compete with the $200,000 studios.....as far as vocals....
@sin_phany_tv
@sin_phany_tv Жыл бұрын
Hey how are you, I was wondering if you could help me out, the thing is that I am a blind producer not completely and can’t follow along, I use logic, and of course ProTools I’m guessing he is using this on a bus regardless if he isn’t I’m wondering if he could create a logic channel strip for me with the settings that he’s done so I could have it ready to go in logic, if you don’t use logic I also ProTools do you think you could create a session with the plug-ins that he is using and just send it to me with the presets already in place and I’ll do the rest it will mean the world thanks
@oldschooljohnny
@oldschooljohnny 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought the waves plugins and was totally confused by the layout. Thanks for simplifying things!
@GreenLightSound
@GreenLightSound 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@matthues6188
@matthues6188 3 жыл бұрын
I'd reccomend you read the manual too. There are some mistakes in the video.
@johnisrael5183
@johnisrael5183 2 жыл бұрын
m using a Waves NS1 Mono API 560 Vocal Preset R Dessor Dave P setting against Harshness and Last in my Vocal Change.... I've got the VLA 3A by Black Rooster (Pretty Much the BEST) Vocal and Bass Guitar Plugin online....) Going into my UAD 476 Volt with 48+ Phantom, 1176 Compressor and Vintage Effect in ... Honest sounds like I'm singing into an analog Mixer with Gate and a UAD Textronic LA2A...all in the Box on the Computer Once again....I do not claim to know more than Andrew Scheps...but....his Idea might work better if your Using a $3000 interface with a $2000 LA2A comp.....so in the Box with a great vocal interface like Volt....trust my vocal chain sounds warmer, clearer and is cutting through my mix sharper and smoother than your suggestion above...no offense I just went into my Vocal Closet Set up and shot your Idea against mine...I won....LOL ....the Black Rooster VLA 3A, API 560 EQ and Volt 476 UAD Interface for vocals...three must...if you want to compete with the $200,000 studios.....as far as vocals....
@whale_talk
@whale_talk 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation
@JesseQuinn
@JesseQuinn 2 жыл бұрын
Cool late 90s style song!
@kevinkeener
@kevinkeener 7 ай бұрын
Just as an FYI, there's a Pultec emulator called Warmy by Kiive that's free. I used that with a compressor with sidechain filter that allowed top end filtering above 1k. I worked really well to pull clarity out of a vocal. Nice tip. Thank you!
@keegan6298
@keegan6298 3 жыл бұрын
Hi everybody, this is a good video and I appreciate every lesson online. What I’m looking for is to make a vocal chain using basic cubase stock plug ins. If any one has any tips on where to find a video lesson or maybe you know some tips yourself? I’d be happy to hear from you
@unclemick-synths
@unclemick-synths 3 жыл бұрын
Good explanation. A nice variation on NY.
@jord1242
@jord1242 Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say I've been trying to get this vocal to cut through for a week. Just tried this in 5 min, done! Impressive.
@GreenLightSound
@GreenLightSound Жыл бұрын
Happy to help!
@PeterBachmayer-ProDrummer
@PeterBachmayer-ProDrummer 3 жыл бұрын
This is so cool! Thanx for sharing!
@orphic-trench
@orphic-trench 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely tremendous trick. Thank you so much!!!!!
@GreenLightSound
@GreenLightSound 4 жыл бұрын
Happy to help!
@billesposito2112
@billesposito2112 2 жыл бұрын
I think the stock set up sounded better. I have both set ups . I use Studio One with an Apollo. I dig Luna also but In my opinion my vocal texture sounds smoother right from the start in Studio One. I love the fact I can drop a mic pre in the unison slot with Console. I tweak the vocal presets in Console and get some killer vocal sounds using my AKG C214 or the Rhode NT -1. I don't find myself using the 7B much anymore. Unless I'm belting. Before I treated my room it was my go to mic. Great video I'm definitely implementing that on something. Thanks
@sin_phany_tv
@sin_phany_tv Жыл бұрын
Hey what’s up, I was wondering if you can help me out the thing is is that I am a visually impaired producer and can’t follow along in the video, I don’t know if you use logic or ProTools, but do you think you could save the preset in logic so I could import it, or if you could just create a session in ProTools with the plug-ins that he has with the proper settings and then I could do everything from there and just send me the session? It would mean a lot thank you so much hopefully you can help me out
@davidcottrell1308
@davidcottrell1308 Жыл бұрын
very cool...great explanations!!
5 жыл бұрын
What a trick!, great video, thank you.
@jkyles1000
@jkyles1000 3 жыл бұрын
Side note: The song you’re demonstrating these techniques on is fantastic from the little I can hear. Cold chills. Who IS that?
@GreenLightSound
@GreenLightSound 3 жыл бұрын
Jay Clifford - "Paralyze"
@jkyles1000
@jkyles1000 3 жыл бұрын
@@GreenLightSound Thank you!
@ArmaanSabharwalbhakti
@ArmaanSabharwalbhakti Жыл бұрын
its magic thank you soo much
@sin_phany_tv
@sin_phany_tv Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the wonderful video, I wish I could follow along but I’m a blind producer and know a lot about parallel processing, I have all the plug-ins you mention the universal audio I have the legacy, and would love to see if you could send me a channel strip for logic so I can pull it up let me know if you can help me out it would be wonderful to try this at home thanks again
@juanreales986
@juanreales986 4 жыл бұрын
This is so good !
@BlayzeDeville
@BlayzeDeville 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the tutorial, definitely subscribing because you also use Studio One
@GreenLightSound
@GreenLightSound 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@voodoochili12
@voodoochili12 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe this is a dumb question, but at ~4:00 mins, doesn't the vocal track become more present by virtue of the added volume of the vocal bus track? How do you know if the 'move' was successful because of top end compression, as opposed to simply added volume?
@GreenLightSound
@GreenLightSound 3 жыл бұрын
Not a dumb question at all. Parallel processing inherently adds gain, but this technique allows the top end EQ to cut through more. Try it both ways and you'll notice a difference.
@eastboundkieb
@eastboundkieb 3 жыл бұрын
Good tips I enjoyed the video ty
@brywool
@brywool 3 жыл бұрын
great tip and I reallly like the tune. Very cool.
@darkonestudio9897
@darkonestudio9897 3 жыл бұрын
very helpful, thank you very much for the tip. Immediately brings out the vocal much clearer. Is the effect bus then sent directly to the masterout or back to the vocal bus?
@GreenLightSound
@GreenLightSound 3 жыл бұрын
It's sent to the vocal buss.
@twise9881
@twise9881 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on setting up a mix template using stock and 3rd party plug-in.
@johnisrael5183
@johnisrael5183 2 жыл бұрын
m using a Waves NS1 Mono API 560 Vocal Preset R Dessor Dave P setting against Harshness and Last in my Vocal Change.... I've got the VLA 3A by Black Rooster (Pretty Much the BEST) Vocal and Bass Guitar Plugin online....) Going into my UAD 476 Volt with 48+ Phantom, 1176 Compressor and Vintage Effect in ... Honest sounds like I'm singing into an analog Mixer with Gate and a UAD Textronic LA2A...all in the Box on the Computer Once again....I do not claim to know more than Andrew Scheps...but....his Idea might work better if your Using a $3000 interface with a $2000 LA2A comp.....so in the Box with a great vocal interface like Volt....trust my vocal chain sounds warmer, clearer and is cutting through my mix sharper and smoother than your suggestion above...no offense I just went into my Vocal Closet Set up and shot your Idea against mine...I won....LOL ....the Black Rooster VLA 3A, API 560 EQ and Volt 476 UAD Interface for vocals...three must...if you want to compete with the $200,000 studios.....as far as vocals....
Жыл бұрын
On a Pultec, the bandwidth control applies to the treble boost, not the low shelf.
@joeloesch3328
@joeloesch3328 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Great detail
@GreenLightSound
@GreenLightSound 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@juliusebola9389
@juliusebola9389 4 жыл бұрын
This is awesome. Very useful.
@johnisrael5183
@johnisrael5183 2 жыл бұрын
m using a Waves NS1 Mono API 560 Vocal Preset R Dessor Dave P setting against Harshness and Last in my Vocal Change.... I've got the VLA 3A by Black Rooster (Pretty Much the BEST) Vocal and Bass Guitar Plugin online....) Going into my UAD 476 Volt with 48+ Phantom, 1176 Compressor and Vintage Effect in ... Honest sounds like I'm singing into an analog Mixer with Gate and a UAD Textronic LA2A...all in the Box on the Computer Once again....I do not claim to know more than Andrew Scheps...but....his Idea might work better if your Using a $3000 interface with a $2000 LA2A comp.....so in the Box with a great vocal interface like Volt....trust my vocal chain sounds warmer, clearer and is cutting through my mix sharper and smoother than your suggestion above...no offense I just went into my Vocal Closet Set up and shot your Idea against mine...I won....LOL ....the Black Rooster VLA 3A, API 560 EQ and Volt 476 UAD Interface for vocals...three must...if you want to compete with the $200,000 studios.....as far as vocals....
@lasseyoyo5653
@lasseyoyo5653 2 жыл бұрын
great tutorial! thanks
@philu4621
@philu4621 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Great stuff!
@cdtv1318
@cdtv1318 4 жыл бұрын
This was awesome! That dog gone Andrew Scheps is incredible and he loves simplicity and teaches it well.!
@jamesperryman6433
@jamesperryman6433 4 жыл бұрын
Genius. Thanks
@tracyeaves4847
@tracyeaves4847 2 жыл бұрын
Heck, just take some 3K medium Q separate channel slide it in - low pass everything below 1K. - I wonder if that would work?? Kind of like brining in some definition on a bass drum.
@BottleneckMoses
@BottleneckMoses 5 жыл бұрын
More great content! Thank you.
@sin_phany_tv
@sin_phany_tv 2 жыл бұрын
Hello I am a blind producer and it’s a little bit difficult to follow you, with the first option is there anyway you could save the preset so that way I could import it into my plug-in? Or if you do work with logic can you save the chain and I can import it into logic? If I could hear back from you it would mean the world thank you
@-Deena.
@-Deena. 2 ай бұрын
Excellent. So is this through an fx track/send combo or a dupe vox processed, please?
@GreenLightSound
@GreenLightSound 2 ай бұрын
It's a send
@-Deena.
@-Deena. 2 ай бұрын
@@GreenLightSound Thanks 🧡
@hanisiblini
@hanisiblini 3 жыл бұрын
great demonstration
@GreenLightSound
@GreenLightSound 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@johnisrael5183
@johnisrael5183 2 жыл бұрын
m using a Waves NS1 Mono API 560 Vocal Preset R Dessor Dave P setting against Harshness and Last in my Vocal Change.... I've got the VLA 3A by Black Rooster (Pretty Much the BEST) Vocal and Bass Guitar Plugin online....) Going into my UAD 476 Volt with 48+ Phantom, 1176 Compressor and Vintage Effect in ... Honest sounds like I'm singing into an analog Mixer with Gate and a UAD Textronic LA2A...all in the Box on the Computer Once again....I do not claim to know more than Andrew Scheps...but....his Idea might work better if your Using a $3000 interface with a $2000 LA2A comp.....so in the Box with a great vocal interface like Volt....trust my vocal chain sounds warmer, clearer and is cutting through my mix sharper and smoother than your suggestion above...no offense I just went into my Vocal Closet Set up and shot your Idea against mine...I won....LOL ....the Black Rooster VLA 3A, API 560 EQ and Volt 476 UAD Interface for vocals...three must...if you want to compete with the $200,000 studios.....as far as vocals....
@joyn7675
@joyn7675 Жыл бұрын
super helfpul video thank you
@davidr1620
@davidr1620 4 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure the bandwidth is controlling just high frequencies, at least on my UA Pultec. Am I getting that wrong?
@Ishimira1
@Ishimira1 9 ай бұрын
Great trick. Question, do these 3 plugins go on a mix buss? Or directly on thr vocal track
@GreenLightSound
@GreenLightSound 9 ай бұрын
They go on a separate buss/aux channel that the vocal is sent to.
@victorjasa
@victorjasa 3 жыл бұрын
Very good tip!! Sorry for asking (may be to basic) but for this parallel process, you duplicate the hole main voice track and apply this plugs, then manage the fader of this new track, or use an other way to do it? Because if you do it ask I think, also the volume of the main voice it self increases, and as you know that always gives the sensation of “better”. I’d like to see this technique effect at the same final volume...
@GreenLightSound
@GreenLightSound 3 жыл бұрын
You send a copy of the main vocal to an aux track/buss and apply the processing there. It has its own fader. The gain increase is inherent in the parallel process, and is not the same as just turning up the main vocal.
@ProducerVibes
@ProducerVibes 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing trick! Thank you!
@GreenLightSound
@GreenLightSound 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@xangai87
@xangai87 Жыл бұрын
Hey, great video! So, you do this technique making a send channel?
@GreenLightSound
@GreenLightSound Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@MartinLang1625
@MartinLang1625 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@Johnnymayfield00
@Johnnymayfield00 2 жыл бұрын
Great video my question is, is this post or pre and am I just sending this full out to 0db and controlling it with the fader to my liking ? And is there also a trick like that for mastering for the EQ so it can be bright like that trick ?
@GreenLightSound
@GreenLightSound 2 жыл бұрын
It's post, and you send full level to control with the fader. I wouldn't use this for mastering, but I might use a more specific tool like the Clariphonic from Kush.
@Johnnymayfield00
@Johnnymayfield00 2 жыл бұрын
@@GreenLightSound thanks I highly appreciate it and again much appreciation.
@freekmusbach8722
@freekmusbach8722 3 жыл бұрын
nice one, thanks!
@flbrandstrader
@flbrandstrader 3 жыл бұрын
Great vocal mix tip video...do you add reverb before or after the parallel processing chain?
@GreenLightSound
@GreenLightSound 3 жыл бұрын
After.
@kenwatts3848
@kenwatts3848 2 жыл бұрын
What is that song?! Really nice. Great video. Thank you!
@GreenLightSound
@GreenLightSound 2 жыл бұрын
Jay Clifford - "Paralyze"
@catsven1973
@catsven1973 3 жыл бұрын
Wow the best trick I’ve ever learned since 12 years ago (even if I don’t lean on others tricks) !! Thank you that’s great. So if I got it .. you send on a different bus on which you apply this process ?!
@GreenLightSound
@GreenLightSound 3 жыл бұрын
Right, these plugins are on a separate buss from the main vocal channel.
@johnisrael5183
@johnisrael5183 2 жыл бұрын
m using a Waves NS1 Mono API 560 Vocal Preset R Dessor Dave P setting against Harshness and Last in my Vocal Change.... I've got the VLA 3A by Black Rooster (Pretty Much the BEST) Vocal and Bass Guitar Plugin online....) Going into my UAD 476 Volt with 48+ Phantom, 1176 Compressor and Vintage Effect in ... Honest sounds like I'm singing into an analog Mixer with Gate and a UAD Textronic LA2A...all in the Box on the Computer Once again....I do not claim to know more than Andrew Scheps...but....his Idea might work better if your Using a $3000 interface with a $2000 LA2A comp.....so in the Box with a great vocal interface like Volt....trust my vocal chain sounds warmer, clearer and is cutting through my mix sharper and smoother than your suggestion above...no offense I just went into my Vocal Closet Set up and shot your Idea against mine...I won....LOL ....the Black Rooster VLA 3A, API 560 EQ and Volt 476 UAD Interface for vocals...three must...if you want to compete with the $200,000 studios.....as far as vocals....
@gdanila
@gdanila 3 ай бұрын
That is actually more due to level increase when you bring up the parallel channel. The LA-2A does little to nothing given its parallel context. I would be more aggressive with the compression on the parallel so it also creates movement and depth. I would also not advise for a strict recipe because we all know Andrew doesn’t have a fixed gain structure, instead he always relies on his ears.
@bensolomon1872
@bensolomon1872 3 жыл бұрын
Aside from any effect of the processing, it sounds to me that the main reason the vocal is "cutting through" better is that the overall level has been brought up 2-3dB. I'd like to hear a demo where the level is fairly compensated so only the effect of the processing is heard. Listen again for yourself alternating between the two at 3:10 and 3:48.
@DrDSP
@DrDSP 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent point.
@GreenLightSound
@GreenLightSound 3 жыл бұрын
I get your point, but the added gain is inherent in the parallel processing. It's not the same as just turning up the main vocal channel 3dB since there's such an upper mid range emphasis in the parallel channel, and there's some saturation/added harmonics from the modeled analog gear.
@edvinnoren503
@edvinnoren503 2 ай бұрын
When applying eqs in a parallell track, isnt the shift in phase causing phase cancellations?
@MrRigazzi
@MrRigazzi Жыл бұрын
for hip hop try running a cla 76 into a cla 2a ..the 76 only catching 1 reduction the 2a catching 2-3 reduction adjust the 2a for overall make up gain dont let the cla 76 signal leave too hot then parallel that main bus with a rcomp squashed to a 50 ratio 5,000 release 3.2 attack -34 threshold then blend that into the main signal and trust me youll notice a difference
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