The Best PLO Player in the World? (Endboss Battle)

[@PhilGalfond]

Since I’ve seen this comment a few times: No, I don’t suspect AmSoGood is using RTA. I want to clear this up because I would hate for this video to create undeserved rumors about a great player. I’ve played enough with him to be quite confident that he’s playing honestly, plus, they are playing on PokerStars who has excellent RTA detection.

[@ivanwong8281]

Phil, I've been wathcing some of your stream vs Jungle, and it looks to me that you very rarely donk flop or turn. Do you not implement a flop/turn donk strategy to simplify your game tree?

[@zefix1234]

@@ivanwong8281 donking does not simplify the gametree, it makes it more complicated. you have to balance your checking and your donkingrange. unless you want to donk 100% in some spots which seems kinda ill advised.

[@markjodonohue]

@@zefix1234Ivan was asking if Phil DOESNT employ a Donk strategy because not donking simplifies a tree. You two are on the same page.

[@haypapa]

why no material on 5 card plo.

[@StankHunt42]

Who ended up winning?

[@pokerkramer1240]

This format of Phil analyzing the ranges without knowing the hands of the players is very good (while the hands appear to us). I hope there will be more videos like this one.

[@PhilGalfond]

I'm glad that it turned out well! I enjoyed filming this one too, and I think I'll do another one in the near future.

[@pokerkramer1240]

@@PhilGalfond And when will we have another live play and explain?

[@billj4525]

@@PhilGalfond Phil any chance you would play the winner of this since you think you're up there with them? I think you're likely up there with them as well, but i'm not really qualified to say, since I haven't been playing much recently at all.

[@mattstone9364]

I know I have said this before but I really hope you do not stop posting these videos. These are necessary for our viewing pleasure. 😎

[@PhilGalfond]

All the videos or this kind specifically? And thank you - not planning to stop anytime soon!

[@mattstone9364]

@@PhilGalfond all the videos you post are entertaining while also being informative. Not gonna lie it’s kinda unfair for someone to be top 1% in a field (PLO) and also be very very good in another (KZbinr). You run good in life sir! 😎

[@PhilGalfond]

You're too kind 😀

[@stevelee7785]

@@mattstone9364 top 0.0000001%

[@davorstanley]

​@@PhilGalfond all the videos! You are not only an amazing poker mind, but an amazing teacher as well. Thank you!

[@calpoker21]

man whoever made the bet vs phil that prompted him to start posting all this content is a hero

[@edenwylie8917]

it was the guy behind DonkPlay

[@ManicMindTrick]

@@edenwylie8917 DonkPlay guy is legend

[@edenwylie8917]

@@ManicMindTrick Was a legend. RIP

[@nickwright2581]

This format of you not knowing the cards but us being able to see the cards is great format for these videos.

[@bradley-9905]

A real testament to how good Berri actually is when Phil sees that potentially he could even be a big loser to him. Another great video Phil, be interested to see more hands from this match in this format. All the best

[@PhilGalfond]

Thank you! And glad to hear you’d like to see more! I’ll do another review sometime!

[@caynenxanh2347]

@@PhilGalfond Can you make a video of the HU battle between LinusLLove vs Berri? It would be great.

[@ivarkreuger3098]

Yes I would like updates on this match on this channel as often as possible. Thank you.

[@PhilGalfond]

Awesome! I’d have fun doing more!

[@ThoughtfulChimp]

Really excellent material. The hand analysis is great, but I think I really enjoy hearing your perspective on the players' different styles and how they'll match up to each other. And adding the backdrop about their histories and how they rose up in stakes is always very interesting. Thanks for the great content!

[@PhilGalfond]

You’re very welcome!

[@d3maccus]

I agree this part of the vid made it next level --- gave it film-like lore and mysticism. I was here for it!

[@markthelandshark2005]

I've learned more from this channel than any other and not all of it has been "poker". Dont stop please.

[@PhilGalfond]

Reading this made me very happy, thanks Mark 😊

[@IVoldiI]

Would love to see more reviews of this match. Not sure how long they'll be playing for, but maybe biweekly or end of the month check in?

[@cameron9563]

Love this content Phil! You’ve been killing it lately 🎉

[@holdenpi]

If this was a series where you broke down every (yes, every) hand played in this match I would absolutely pay for it. Just enough feel+solver input to balance out analysis.

[@rk1303]

Please keep more analysis of this match coming! Really enjoy the insight, and great to see two different styles clashing, vs two players trying to mimic solvers.

[@PhilGalfond]

It really is an amazing match to witness. I'm almost certainly going to do a part 2 😊

[@Giuls_83]

Fantastic video PG ! All I’m going to say is , how lucky are we that us ,the audience, have access to these videos🍀 They are great , your analysis and insight on the hands is very helpful and informative . Would you be able to share more videos like this in regards to updates on the HU challenge and any key hand break downs! Keep up the good work 🐐

[@PhilGalfond]

Thank you so much! I’ll make more in the future!

[@kevinklaiman1748]

Awesome content Phil, love your analysis on the hands!!!

[@PhilGalfond]

Thank you! ☺️

[@kylecollins6450]

Your plo analysis is awesome and very helpful to good players looking to get better. More analysis on this match please in the future. I love the way Barry plays the river with the nuts on these boards.

[@EthanBriggs]

Would love to see these type of videos all the way through their match Phil!

[@zhakran]

I love the hand reviews. I would really appreciate the hand reviews and update videos. Hard for me to get hyped over a forum thread, but this video definitely got me hyped for some PLO.

[@stevelee7785]

hoping to see more of this series, with this exact structure. great work, phil!

[@PhilGalfond]

Glad you enjoyed it, a part two is coming (as long as they keep playing each other)!

[@dshravanth]

Hey Phil! Loved this video, thanks for highlighting this HU challenge and talking about the players involved. Would love more videos like this following their challenge, covering interesting hands and steelmanning their plays.

[@PhilGalfond]

Thanks, I'm happy you enjoyed the content! I'll be making more of these in the future 😊

[@Simon-nv5zj]

5:05 clicking it back here is just insane imo but what great timing

[@kimikmusic]

great vid, very interesting analysis, thx

[@PhilGalfond]

Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed the video!

[@renemanzano4537]

Hi Phil, ex pro-poker player here. Happy to see your videos again. Haven't thought much of poker in a long time, nice to get to see some hand analysis from you. Your comments are super spot on, makes me want to learn PLO. Great content, keep it up.

[@PhilGalfond]

Awesome! Thank you very much 😊

[@a5suited201]

Love this kind of content, would also love to see a no limit holdem HU analysis between the current best online players, I know its not your specialty but I still think with the help of a solver you can do a really good job analyzing HU no limit as well!

[@garywu6488]

Phil this is top tier content, I'd almost expect this to be on RIO. Speaking of which, I noticed your posting freq there has decreased some. Are you planning on uploading more there? Cheers

[@tahoemph]

I love the review/analysis. Keep 'em coming!

[@levzerkal4088]

Phil I’ve been following you since 2010 and please post more videos like this one and in general!

[@matemenyhard4936]

Thanks For the content, its top notch as allways 🙂 would be happy to see more from it, its great to hear how an endboss thinks about other endbosses 🙂 GG

[@PhilGalfond]

Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it! 😊 I'll try to film part 2 in the near future.

[@reddreinhardt5380]

great analysis of goats...the thought process, details of specific ranges in hand that phil can think of is pretty scary. Super advanced high stakes breakdown. 10 years ago only 6-12 people knew these things. very scary how many levels there are

[@PhilGalfond]

Thank you! So many levels!!

[@bradmajors7628]

Great video Phil! Love this format! I have been watching your videos since the Bluefire days and my opinion is that you would beat either of these players in a long enough challenge.

[@JackAllenSteinberg]

Great video. Hearing one of the greatest analyze THE greatest(s) is amazing. I play a lot of PLO but would so lost trying to decipher these players logic in this. So thank you

[@PhilGalfond]

You’re very welcome!

[@patrickpiper4729]

Cool series. Keep it on, keep it like it is. Super cool to see the cards and have your explanations.

[@PhilGalfond]

Awesome. Thanks. Will do!

[@Alex-Bunin]

Awesome video! Love to see these games analyzed on this level. Quick question, on the KK7 hand you say something along the lines of "..He has alot of tier 3 hands like overpairs" - I was wondering if you can perhaps expand on the tiers thing. Thanks!

[@mcfly7]

I love these videos! Keep up the excellent work.

[@familiagallardo8420]

Keep up the amazing work! Your analysis on any poker hands is so valuable 👏 thank you 🙏

[@feanor1445]

Great content, thanks for sharing your knowledge so we gamblers can improve even a little in this game.

[@MonalisaOD]

HI Phil. Thanks for vid and content overall. I found ur way of thinking and these vids inspirational. Next step is signing on RIO. Plz make more vids from this match -very entertaining!

[@edwardjohansen1560]

Love this content would love to see more 6 max hand reviews as well!

[@PhilGalfond]

I'll see what I can do 😊

[@edwardjohansen1560]

@@PhilGalfond also really cool to comment back to everyone. I’m a big fan keep crushing!

[@NoSauceNoSauce]

So, who won? Who's the HU PLO king? In general it'd be nice to see links of any update videos if any when relevant. e.g. What happened to your 10K prop bet? Did you win? Thanks for these really interesting videos. Appreciate them.

[@jonathangoldsmith7832]

Please do more of these Phil! That’s super interesting

[@PhilGalfond]

Thank you! I will!

[@nuknuk420]

So much good content coming from ya Phil. Keep it up!

[@kevinkeller9279]

I wonder if the turn call at 13:13 is because it gives you a pretty easy river decision on pretty much any card

[@oakleysee]

Please keep this series up, really love it!

[@mateisidiki9433]

Amazing content , waiting for the next one!

[@PhilGalfond]

Thank you 😊

[@menhunttt]

More of these videos plz!!!!

[@PhilGalfond]

More coming 😊

[@menhunttt]

@@PhilGalfond 😁

[@jonathanpu7618]

When you were checking the solver at 13:00, you inputted 2 hearts instead of 2 spades for the board. Would this change what the solver thinks of both plays?

[@tavogp]

I like this breakdown , I learn so much from your videos

[@Dclu98]

Love these updates - keep ‘em coming

[@PhilGalfond]

Thank you 😊

[@merelymaterial]

Given that real time assistance is so easily accessible I would be very surprised if the top players weren't using it. It's like bodybuilding without steroids, if you don't use it you will be crushed by someone who does. Even if one can challenge people in live games or camera setups, there is a high chance the foundation of their skills is from muscle memory eith RTA.

[@ChillunderTheWaterfall]

any content from u Phil is appreciatted

[@PhilGalfond]

Thank you, I'll keep them coming!

[@alexanderlinton6946]

Great analyis Phil. For the AJ56 ds amsogood hand: I think as a gen sizing down when you have a high likelihood of the best showdown combined with the nut draw makes sense. But needs to obv be balanced with different parts of your range. Also I am not sure if the K778 3-bet is solver approved ever?

[@robivaartnou1647]

I remember finnish plo prospect Jens "Jeans89" Kyllönen , if u can find some cool hands with him I'd appreciate it. His highstakesdb graph is still very impressive ;)

[@PhilGalfond]

I'm not sure if I have any hands, but Jens is a legend of the game 😊

[@nicolasbolzan5312]

Thanks for the video, i hope you'll continue. What is your opinion about Amsogood trying to keep the game 100bb deep (and for Berri, it seem to be not a problem to play deeper) ? Is it easier for Amsogood to play GTO like this ? Thanks !

[@somedudesdad3905]

This was awesome. So cool. Thanks for sharing

[@joemobley8380]

Very good. Like your comments prior to seeing hands.

[@PhilGalfond]

Thank you!!

[@guanaco103]

Thanks Phil you are the man for posting these

[@ivanwong8281]

This is an absolute treat for PLO players

[@anderspersson4497]

Where is the match going on? and what stakes? thanks for quick answer plz

[@Mwuesse]

In the AJ37 hand on KT29, the tiny bet feels like a classic block bet that you get in Holdem these days - where you still have a range advantage so want to put a bit of money into the pot but now lack the nut advantage. And it becomes a nice exploitative line too where you get to see a cheap showdown with some hands like the one he has that would have to fold the turn to any reasonable sizing. 1/3 pot like you said you might do (and what i would do) just seems like too expensive for what the bet is trying to achieve.

[@Crimedawg27]

Hey, just noticed in the second hand review the board was "spade spade heart" and in vision you had SHH. Curious if that changes the relevant ace that slowplays JJ

[@dorimoldovan9009]

It s the same! I noticed too!

[@Moonlightmaster]

Good catch Zach and Dori. I'm not a vision expert, but I think you actually can't choose the color/suit of the board. But Phil analyses AJ65 two spades (ace high spades), two hearts on 732 two spades, one heart. On the hand he looks up in vision, the 2 red cards on the board match the ace high suit (red) so it is the correct hand to look up. It is confusing the first time you see that.

[@michaelgousis5972]

Why are you range checking as 3bettor on 633r? seems like a board you can press Overpair advantage, hes folding alot of 3xxx pre, what am I missing?

[@OmahaClub]

Great format thank you!

[@FrankMitchell-lh1pl]

Sickest poker channel on KZbin

[@TheCorduroyCommunist]

thanks phil! yeah keep us posted on this match ,

[@zamanski7094]

Is anyone streaming the match? Loved the vid to by the way

[@PhilGalfond]

I’m not sure 🤔

[@Jelleasy]

This was really interesting thanks Phil

[@PhilGalfond]

You’re welcome 🙂

[@Kyle_Lucca]

BERRIS the goat!!!! great content keep it rolling on this match- love the format of commentary without knowing hands too

[@willinnewhaven3285]

Harold, my late gambling gambling mentor, although he was not a great poker player, Used to ridicule the five of us for continuing to play our monthly NL 2-7 games after the casinos opened in Connecticut opened and every single losing player in the history of that game left to play table games at Foxwoods. He was right, of course. But i see even the top players seem hell-bent on seeking out challenges.

[@Maxim12-v1i]

Hey Phil, I am following you for years now, played on Run it Once, great site (too bad it was closed), anyway, I started to play PLO HU and I really want to get better at it. I want to learn how to beat limpers or players who raise like 50% of the hands on BTN. where can I find the PLO HU Coaching material? Thank you in advance : - )

[@PhilGalfond]

Thank you! I have a course on runitonce.com called This Is PLO, dedicated mostly to HU, but it’s very expensive ($2499). Doing a giveaway for it right now on Twitter: twitter.com/philgalfond/status/1649824141900492804?s=46&t=_Y-locL4E93VzfTremkR0w Enter that!

[@Tootbook]

I bet this is some deathnote style twist where phil is actually all 3 of these guys

[@ryanhughes1101]

I played this EXACT SAME HAND against Berri at 25/50 HU except river was an ace and he check called with AT on my shove. I had same draw type

[@Hardverb]

More of this content please

[@roberthallstrand4167]

Hey Phil, big fan from the start.. Would you be ok to tell the wins and losses vs other players? Was there really anyone you lost against, Isildur hated to play vs you so :)

[@Nikolay_Sharkov]

Is it standard call on river in hand that AmSoGood has J65A on 732JQ board?

[@tapatapaz]

What is stopping them from having the solver alongside when making a decision?

[@glennhagstedt]

Berri's identity is pretty weird, noone i know here in Sweden knows who it is, some people claim they are 90% sure its between 2 guys but noone really knows. Everyone in Sweden knew who Isilidur1 was maybe a year before the rest of the world knew, atleast mid-highstakes players, but noone is sure about Berri and its been 15 years by now. Its good that noone knows because if his identity would come out he would be at very high risk of robberys, Sweden is terrible at this time.

[@OGRE_HATES_NERDS]

3:01 is it not worth considering that this person could be using RTA?

[@PhilGalfond]

I’ve played enough with AmSo to be pretty confident he’s not RTAing. He definitely doesn’t play perfectly - just closer than anyone else I’ve played. He has a good reputation afaik too.

[@OGRE_HATES_NERDS]

@@PhilGalfondgood enough for me 🤷

[@thelosa9512]

This content IsSoGood.

[@PhilGalfond]

Thank you 😊

[@stevegoldy2196]

Players who have held the online PLO End Boss title at some point IMO are Patrick Antonius, David Benyamine, Yours Truly, Ben86, Sauce 123 and BERRISWEET and for the overall title i'd say that Ben86 edges out BERRI due to his longevity

[@nextjedi6314]

Am i right to assume you suspect Amso is using RTA? How can someone in PLO be so consistently GTO?

[@PhilGalfond]

I don’t suspect it, no. He’s just very well-studied imo.

[@DarthHideous]

I Absolutely dont understand anything about PLO and this is amazing content to help understand da game doe init

[@bombombecker5222]

Stopped playn a few years back. Im always up for BERRI SWEET sucks me back in. The 2 best plo players imo.

[@moebius1714]

I'm a little surprised to see Berri's red line performance. As more of an exploitative player the relationship between his red and blue line would usually be the inverse of what is shown in that graph?

[@PhilGalfond]

I’d have expected BERRI to be winning in redline, too, but it doesn’t always have to go that way for the exploitative player.

[@ThuTran-uo5ob]

who won?

[@shadowxtwinkey]

“Maybe he has clubs, or a 789 type hand.” Wow, spooky 6:35

[@HabibVentures]

Yes please update us until the winner & post some interesting hands, we appreciate you a lot

[@miaowmiaowchowface]

please more and especially more with visions review. Nice to have it confirmed by a computer

[@Lee33721]

This is great thanks!

[@PhilGalfond]

You’re welcome!

[@HueTriTonThat]

Curious question: Back then BerriSweet play HU with Linus on both NL and PLO how was the result of that match? Also Phil, when it comes to NL how you rank Linus, Trueteller, Stefan, Limitless, with BerriSweet if they play HU?

[@PhilGalfond]

My understanding is that Linus stopped playing against him and BERRI has challenged the entire world and basically any game with very few takers. I’m worse than all of them at NL. I haven’t played NL seriously in 15yrs or so. Would love a challenge to learn though!

[@HueTriTonThat]

@@PhilGalfond Thanks Phil for the answer!

[@brickowski1370]

who ended up winning this match?? cant find it online anywhere

[@tm9316]

I remember Ben86 was one best in PLO HU and in 6max Jeans89 was one of the best

[@pokersko]

Great stuff Phil

[@PhilGalfond]

Thank you!

[@sonervanelderen3792]

is there a follow up on this one so we know who is the true king of PLO in 23

[@galaxygalaxy4429]

Keep 'm coming that's all I have to say! I'm learning a lot:)

[@PhilGalfond]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@andrewhart6200]

I fkn love it - ty both Phila dn Wifie/Family/the future kid king of PLO ;)

[@Nick-xu7ns]

If we don’t call top set on those type of turns, isn’t our calling range really screwed on rivers where the draws brick, since we can never be nutted?

[@PhilGalfond]

On a lot of turns, yes (like the straight boards I mentioned), but on board pairing rivers, we have plenty of boats from weaker 2pr hands and tons of trips, which is plenty good to put stacks in. On overcard rivers, we can hit sets or top two. Board coverage is important, but it’s almost always easy to make big hands on bricks even if we fast play when there isn’t a straight, flush, or pair out there.

[@Nick-xu7ns]

@@PhilGalfond That makes a lot of sense. I’m way more of an NLH guy than PLO, so still figuring out how the idea behind range constructions differ in spots like that. And that’s very insightful because I was definitely looking at incorrectly and probably just costing myself value by not raising enough in those spots. Also I appreciate you taking the time to respond. I think it’s incredible to have a top pro just answering strategy questions that random people pose. So thanks for that, Phil. We’re lucky to have you. And I love the great content :) 👍

[@joanlamson5932]

Glad to see these two play with cards up. I learn more from watching cards up than anything. Hearing commentary gives me attention deficit disorder.

[@kellyallen8528]

Ahh so Isisdur is back playing as BerriSweet. Interesting.

[@Jermo484]

In the last hand of part 1, doesn't AmSo have an absolutely terrible hand to call the river with? Blocking spades, backdoor hearts, every single straight draw. Want to learn Omaha more and I don't really get why you'd call there.

[@Pyongyang99]

Any chance amso is just using a solver during play seeing as every time you plug in a weird play it comes out that it’s a thing

[@PhilGalfond]

I doubt it based on my experience with him.

[@Pyongyang99]

@@PhilGalfond that’s fair, thanks for the response Phil 😁