THE BEST PUMA RUNNING SHOE YET - FAST-R NITRO ELITE 2 - 100 MILE REVIEW - EDDBUD

[@i.p2088]

Shark fin in the heel is a must ❤

[@Ezechel.Trifan]

It’s a spur for kicking the cat into high gear.

[@TheBigFella32]

Thanks for the review Edd! I googled reviews for this shoe as I am thinking of buying them for the upcoming Dublin Marathon and need to break them in a little before the big day and then save them. Your review has made me purchase them just now for a great price of 200 euro (reduced on sale). The algorithm is working as your page was the first to come up after I searched. I have subscribed and liked. Looking forward to following you for more great reviews!!

[@EDDBUD]

Hope they do the trick for you. Thanks for watching

[@Stevenc1984]

When you look at the shoe from above the slightly offset extended plate reminds me of when Rio Ferdinand does that thing with his jaw/bottom lip. No need for an hour under the sunbed today, it's lovely out ☀️

[@EDDBUD]

Starving today. Might send out for a ruby Murray.

[@Noor-bu3xp]

Great review, as ever! Could you please compare these with the Hoka Cielo X1s?

[@EDDBUD]

Will do another comparison soon

[@irondistance4313]

Are you in there Hans solo. I love it Ed cracking me up 😂

[@EDDBUD]

Love that film

[@RoshanFernandez-md5cf]

Brilliant review 💫 and comedy gold ‘Hans Solo’ reference 😂🔥. Thank you Edd 🙏🏾👊🏾💯

[@EDDBUD]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@smilebroadlyandlaughmerrily]

Great review Edd! Sounds like an excellent shoe and worthy of consideration. I think the Deviate Nitro Elite 3 will be too when it releases. Probably will go with the Nitro Elite 3 when it drops if I can afford it. The pros are wearing the Elite 3 over this shoe which is a glowing endorsement for the Elite 3.

[@EDDBUD]

Yeah does seem to be doing well on the foot of elite racers. Hope it appears soon

[@RainerSchmitt-pv4df]

Thanks for the tip about heavy runners. Please keep it up! 💪🏼

[@EDDBUD]

Thanks for tuning in 👍🏼👊

[@mopoffool]

I thought about getting it but decided to wait for the Deviate Nitro Elite 3

[@EDDBUD]

The 3 looks to be a full stack in the heel now. Interested to see the weight

[@emmalewin7493]

Interesting review. I don’t think my feet or running style would be compatible with this shoe, but I am using Pumas Nitro Forever Run shoes. They are pretty springy and the grip is great. The downside is that they are 10mm drop and a bit clumpy at times. I would be interested to hear what version 2 might be like. I am usually a Saucony wearer, but I thought I would give these a try. Glad I did.

[@EDDBUD]

Not sure there is a 2nd version of the forever run this year

[@chriskumar1559]

Thanks edd got into the entire Puma stable thanks to your recommendations. So i know how good Puma's are. Funny thing you brought up the TCs i have them and still run in it! Quite tempted with this too but contemplating Adios Pro 3 or 4 as well..decisions decisions

[@EDDBUD]

Pro 4 surely must appear soon. Seems like an age since the 3.

[@paulboyd-leslie4065]

I have run a HM and 10k race in mine. Turned loads of heads at last weekend’s Birmingham 10k event and in both the shoe wanted to go faster than I did 🤣 2 mins outside a HM PB, straight out of the box. Absolutely love them and won’t ever race in Nike again. Looking forward to the NDE3 later this year? ❤️

[@EDDBUD]

Glad these are hitting the spot! 👍🏼👊

[@Manuel-901]

Good morning. Like from Spain 🇪🇸. Have a great monday.

[@EDDBUD]

Good morning!

[@infernaltim]

Something curious I saw was another review saying the midsole was too firm and his durometer was coming in at around 45. I wonder what happened between the two? The other review was based in America so maybe there's some inconsistency? I have no idea.

[@EDDBUD]

That isn’t correct at all. The midsole is much softer than that

[@i.p2088]

I have the Puma Fast R V1. Very comfortable and STABLE.

[@EDDBUD]

Yes they were super stable

[@timobrien256]

Thanks Edd….you know my comment about lack of supply in the USA market. No one carries Puma and unfortunately I will have to continue to find a substitute that I actually can try on and purchase.

[@EDDBUD]

Will see what I can find out about stock for these. Seems odd as they have a base on Boston!

[@i.p2088]

I love the fit of the Puma Fast R V1 so got V2. Same grate fit though a bit long. Much softer midsole and I am a heel and a slow runner.. Runs light despite the weight. I usually get knee pain with heavy shoes like Triumph 20 or SC trainer V2 but this shoe feels light on foot . Definitely a long run shoe.

[@EDDBUD]

Glad it’s hitting the spot

[@bobbrown1528]

I have a pair and I would agree entirely with the review. In amongst my Puma stable of the Deviate Nitro Elite 2, Deviate Nitro 2, Magnify Nitro 2 and Liberate Nitro 2 the Fast R 2s are my favourite. The only point of difference I would have is the use case, I'm 97 kilograms, I have no issue with bottoming out the foam and in a 2km time trial the Puma Fast R2 eclipsed the Adios Pro 3, Alphafly 2, Endorphin Pro 3 and the Deviate Nitro Elite 2, I also felt there was less perceived effort. Will be interesting to see if my Alphafly 3s knock them off. Great review and great work Puma.

[@EDDBUD]

Thanks tuning in and glad they are working out for you.

[@justoutlaw6423]

Are they narrow in the forefoot?

[@bobbrown1528]

@justoutlaw6423 I find them pretty accommodating in the forefoot and I've got pretty wide feet. I love the upper fit.

[@justoutlaw6423]

@@bobbrown1528 Thanks.

[@milosgrujic9118]

Holly shit such a shoes! Just started saving money for this one!

[@EDDBUD]

@@milosgrujic9118 Maybe look at the deviate nitro elite 3. Bit cheaper. Even better.

[@mfcc1084]

Tried this one recently. It's a great shoe but I'm just not comfortable feeling that gap in the midfoot. Aside from that, everything else in this shoe is great. 😊

[@EDDBUD]

Didn’t find it all that noticeable on foot

[@michaelcaricoo]

The excellent fit/upper here really cannot be understaded. I was worried because the Velocity was far too narrow for me but the Fast R was great. Foam was really nice too. I really want to sit and talk with the folks saying Pumas aren't durable, they probably don't think Adidas are durable either. Also can we just take a second and appreciate the presentation of Puma's racing shoes. Adidas, Asics and Nike just give you generic boxes. Puma's racing boxes and overall presentation are the best I've seen

[@EDDBUD]

Glad I could help

[@Ezechel.Trifan]

Interesting Velocity 2 is too narrow for me too, and not many shoes I have are. I was thinking it might have been the way Puma translates sizes, as my US size 9.5 is 42.5 European, where most brands are 43 or 43.33. Do you have the Fast R and Velocity in the same size?

[@michaelcaricoo]

@Ezechel.Trifan yeah I did a US 10.5 for both, interestingly I can do a normal 10.5 in the Magnify Nitro, Deviate Nitro 2, Deviate Elite 2 (that ones snug but ok), and the Fast R. Just not the velocity

[@spartanB0292]

Interesting that y'all say the Velocity 2 is too narrow. I was told that as a wide footer I should go for VN2 rather than the Deviate Nitro 2. I ended up getting the DN2 instead, it's not a wide shoe but it wasn't narrow either.

[@justoutlaw6423]

@@Ezechel.Trifan While I love VN2, i lost 4 nails running in it. Would love to try Fast R 2 if it is wider in the toebox.

[@MauricioFragale]

Ed, this shoe is fantastic. I bought one and my experience with it is absolutely wonderful. But, there’s a bigger brother of this one, called Puma Fasrtroid. It’s a kind of training version of the Fast R. No one has ever talked about that shoe, and even Puma seems to be giving everyone a confused information. Is it a running shoe or just a fashion version? I bought a pair, have done some running with it and I think it is a very good training shoe, although it’s on the heavier side of the spectrum.

[@EDDBUD]

Glad it’s working out well for you

[@woidmoasta4673]

Hi Eddbud Cool Video. Do you have a similar video with the Endorphin Elite in the future? I would be really interested to see how well these shoes hold up after 100Km or 100Miles

[@EDDBUD]

Will do! Not sure they will be as durable as these

[@that_which_is_not]

Are you referring to the Run Repeat review of this Ed? There’s a little video within the review, of the heel folding over very easily when light pressure is applied to it by hand. I’m not sure I’d notice such a thing myself but people have the strangest complaints about shoes haha

[@michael-qp9xd]

Hello Ed - yes is over 40mm so more foam then some of other super shoes but only by ~2mm but still considering this very heavy. At this price better to get nike vaporfly or ASICS edge/sky as much lighter and proven winners. Puma to sell this shoe needs to lower the price much.

[@EDDBUD]

Most super shoes come in at 42/43 in my size. The stack increases for the shoe size

[@barrelvisor]

Deviate nitro Elite 1 are so resilient. Solid and no wear at all. Big fan. Have been tempted by the fast-r 1 but am not sure since I have been a bit ASICS heavy lately :) thanks for that by the way…

[@EDDBUD]

The Metaspeed Sky paris and these are the best of 2024 so far

[@barrelvisor]

Yep, I was out in the MSPs this morning. These are special even for supershoes, I would say that these are, with the Superblast, about as good as it gets for training combinations.

[@Chris-dw3xl]

Any stability super shoes out there? Great review as always

[@EDDBUD]

For stability there are few options. Something with a wider heel might work

[@Chris-dw3xl]

@@EDDBUD cheers dude

[@jimoconnor8597]

Hoping they release these in the Red/Blue colorway so I can pick up. Also surprised they still have V1 at Puma for $260? No discount....

[@EDDBUD]

There’s deep discounts on the v1 here

[@johnhiggins674]

Good video again Edd. On the strength of your initial video I picked up a pair and so far so good. Marathon PB and 10days later a 5k PB. For context (as people go on about these type of shoes only being useful for relatively faster and/or lighter runners) I’m 58, 11st and times were 3:22:47 marathon and 19:12 5k. So not sure if I’m the type of runner these are intended for or not. 🤷🏻‍♂️😂 Still not sure if these feel as bouncy when running as my Adios Pro 2’s or Takumi Sen 8’s, but time will tell. Literally I suppose. 😀

[@EDDBUD]

Glad they are hitting the spot

[@MNrunguy]

Great review Edd! Have you heard anything about the Nitro Elite v3 release date?

[@EDDBUD]

Nothing solid as of yet

[@mopoffool]

June according to Reddit

[@VolatilityTradingStrategies]

I don't know if you answer questions, but which is best? Fast-R Nitro Elite 2 or Hoka Cielo X1. Maybe a comparison video?

[@EDDBUD]

The Puma is a tad more exciting to run it for me

[@VolatilityTradingStrategies]

@@EDDBUD Thanks! If I could bother you for one more question. Which one would you rather do longer training runs in? Forget race day, just long runs? Love your channel

[@johnpate5509]

I've been intrigued with this shoe since the first sneak peak, but I am befuddled a bit about the durometer. I just recently watched another run reviewer's first take on this shoe, and everything he said was the exact opposite, in fact he stated the durometer stats were between 40-50 in most places and commented it was one of the stiffest midsoles he had tried. I'm wondering if this is a QC issue or a discrepancy between US and EU models? Or perhaps yours' are just broken in?? Thoughts?

[@EDDBUD]

It’s mega soft. Average of all shoes I’ve tried is 28. This comes in around 23-25 so very compressive. Though the return is fast

[@johnpate5509]

@@EDDBUD dense is the word I was looking for. I wonder if the metric we use for a durometer could be different? He also stated that the Fast-R 2 really requires sub 6 pace to get the full efficiency from it. Love your vids (LBJ the 🐐 though) ♥️

[@EDDBUD]

@@johnpate5509 Sub 6?! Why?!

[@042766]

I know people in the states maybe talking about not having any stock over here. Fortunately I live in NYC(Brooklyn) - if you go directly to their store website in NYC , they look to be in stock in some sizes and color ways ..

[@EDDBUD]

That’s good to hear. Must be specific states

[@jameswestmoreland9717]

You had me at "midsole reminded you of the NB Fuel Cell TC

[@EDDBUD]

Yeah very much that type of vibe. But more aggressive

[@i.p2088]

My stride is LONGER in the shoe and my cadance lower.. Excellent pace though So it works.

[@EDDBUD]

Quite and aggressive model. I like it!

[@Wkwkwk45]

Do you mind sharing your football boots collection? 👀, great vid as always!

[@EDDBUD]

Some of them are falling apart!

[@Casey_Atkinson]

Pretty sure the foam is puma's aliphatic tpu, the same as the new nitro elite 3

[@EDDBUD]

Yes it’s correct. Peba in the old blend of the nitro elite. 👍🏼

[@user-alexperovich81]

Unfortunately, I didn't like the look, so I chose a different shoe for speed work. Thanks for the review 😊❤👟

[@EDDBUD]

Never judge the shoe by the looks.

[@robertbien7895]

Wow that shoe has held up real well for you.

[@EDDBUD]

Yes it’s been one of the best for durability!

[@chrisharrison5967]

So I've got a question for you Sensei ref Fast R v Fast R 2. So.... I bought the Fast R 2 after your video made me (😂😂) and I absolutely love it....BUT....it's turned out to be not what I originally intended. It's my absolute go to for upper easy runs, moderate and tempo efforts (and once I'm back post hernia op 😢😢I think it will be my half marathon race shoe. I had looked at the OG Fast R for a while but chickened out due to yours (and others) reviews based on the stiffer EVA at the sole end of things. I've had very bad experiences with stiffer foams and always deviate (get it...😉😂)to softer foams. However i fancied the Fast R 2 as a speed option but it's turned out to be a cushioned fast cruiser. So what I'm probably trying to ask is....would I be disappointed if I bit the bullet and got some of the OG Fast R's for a speed/short rep option or from your testing would you push me away from it? This question made sense in my head but the signals between brain and fingers have been pickled for years 😂😂

[@EDDBUD]

The og is more like the tempo next %. Fast or not at all. 👊🤣👍🏼

[@SplinterBreak]

The Fast R 2 is supposed to be a TPU, not PEBA, one of the things that makes me interested in it, TPU is far more durable and that was what Puma claimed was a goal for the shoe. Looking forward to more higher milage reviews of it to see if it holds up to the claims.

[@EDDBUD]

Feels more like a peba blend to me. It’s mega soft

[@kylekermgard]

Mine feels like it's held up well after 250 miles. Only some wear in the heel rubber

[@SplinterBreak]

@@EDDBUD found the exact foam on a Believe in the Run article. "Speaking of foams, the Puma Fast-R Nitro Elite 2 uses one that I had to Google. It’s called aliphatic ETPU. While big brands in the US favor Peba, Chinese sporting shoe brands like Li-Ning and Anta have been using aliphatic ETPU in their race day shoes, and Puma claims the foam has a 93% energy return. While I can’t scientifically back that up, the foam does have a lively rebound." So a different type of TPU to what we are familiar with.

[@pbpete8196]

Love your work Edd

[@EDDBUD]

🥈

[@perjrgenkristiansen8812]

Yes!

[@alboreham388]

Nurgle would wear these

[@justoutlaw6423]

I love the looks :).

[@EDDBUD]

Great looking shoe for sure

[@Pipppetto]

You didn't mention the radical plate shape, with this unique front protrusion; any difference comparing the previous version ? Improvement in toe-off/responsiveness/other ?... Looks like open in the forefoot, where the midsole is visible.

[@EDDBUD]

It makes a difference more in terms of the landing area.

[@scottmac1977]

As a kid, I always favoured Puma over Adidas in football boots, casual trainers etc. For some reason, I don't like their running shoe aesthetic. I feel I'm missing out really, will probably have to give them a go.

[@EDDBUD]

You should! Some great models and good prices on the daily stuff

[@scottmac1977]

@@EDDBUD I'm so hooked on Saucony/Adidas, perhaps there's room for a third brand. Didn't get on with Nike, so perhaps Puma time has come. Or Hoka maybe.

[@pc3942]

Are they true to size Edd? Look like a great shoe. Keep up the great reviews.

[@EDDBUD]

Spot on true to size

[@TolunayOrkun]

This Nitro Elite foam is different. Apparently it is supercritical Aliphatic TPU instead of PEBA. PUMA says it has better energy return but perhaps heavier or probably advantage of energy return is muted. The plate is said to be very stiff. It is definitely not for everyone.

[@EDDBUD]

All those carbon plates are stiff

[@TolunayOrkun]

@@EDDBUD I guess there are degrees of stiffness.

[@bbnd5476]

I thought the new Nitro Elite foam is TPE, not PEBA like it was in the last version.

[@EDDBUD]

Feels more like peba this time than the last one.

[@stenblann9784]

I have really enjoyed revisiting Pavement and Husker Du. Distortion guitar anyone?

[@EDDBUD]

Love me some lo fi.

[@georgiosmak4816]

Very good review!

[@EDDBUD]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@davidh5429]

Now they are making upper tier "nearly unobtainable" class of running shoes "Af3, fast rb, evo1" I'm losing all my hype for the previous top lineup and find myself more aimed towards going back to basic. Just don't feel like spending any money on something that is second-best.

[@EDDBUD]

The alphafly 3 is right up there in fairness. The Puma isn’t far off the asics Metaspeed Sky paris in my opinion

[@chrismcfarlane8996]

Good afternoon

[@EDDBUD]

🥉

[@tomascanevaro4292]

These look like the shoes a batman villain like the riddler or poison ivy would wear 😄

[@EDDBUD]

That is my style

[@haydenvincent8821]

How is this on the arch? Version 1 kept causing massive blisters on my arches. And I don't have wide feet, but rather incredibly flat feet

[@EDDBUD]

Same type of arch here. Best avoided by the sounds

[@haydenvincent8821]

@@EDDBUD that's a shame. Everything else from Puma's Nitro line has been spot on. Guess I'll have to wait for the Deviate Elite

[@alanspain01]

Hoping to do my first marathon this December in malaga and really thorn on what shoe to buy for it , price is a consideration but not a barrier what would you recommend for me to buy . Have the puma magnify for my long runs and use a mix of shoes for intervals but want a marathon specific shoe i can use in training aswell . Is this the shoe or the asics paris ?

[@EDDBUD]

Well if you want a shoe to use in training too then it’s hard to ignore the durability I have seen here

[@dhgpan]

🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@wanrdtg]

I will buy it for my full marathon. Ist good?

[@EDDBUD]

Yes no reason why not

[@moondog7654]

is midsole creasing that bad? always wondered why my vaporfly only last 200km

[@EDDBUD]

No creasing here. The zoomx stuff seems to crease much quicker

[@skobodabaws8946]

looks ugly though 😅Nice one Ed,always on point 🇿🇦

[@kisukisu7327]

Vs dn 3 elite please

[@EDDBUD]

Coming this week 👍🏼

[@RainerSchmitt-pv4df]

👊🏼🤖‼️

[@EDDBUD]

Much appreciated

[@Ruffnreddyrunner]

The review of an insole is just as important as the laces and midsole imo I don’t see many shoe tubers doing this and why your my no1 stop for shoe reviews and discover more brands that I wouldn’t of even considered and on the guys who cut these pricey shoes up for views does me mad as not everyone can get a pair and they just waste a perfectly good shoe

[@EDDBUD]

It makes a big difference. Same as some shoe which have no stitched in strobel under the insole. Massive difference in cushion

[@cheekster777]

Hi

[@EDDBUD]

🥇

[@ZebraMonkey]

First

[@EDDBUD]

Just missed the podium

[@mar7909]

Damn that is one ugly shoe🤣

[@EDDBUD]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder