Production value is crazy good, visuals are bangers
@MikeyDLuffyАй бұрын
Thank you!
@PJigglesАй бұрын
Super interesting video! I'd love to see your complete list with every character's placements. I've done similar math myself to find the *worst* Smash character who by my calculations ended up being Zelda, not Ganondorf as you said in this video (unless that was just a joke lol) Anyways I hope this video pops off, keep it up fam
@IlovePootis3000Ай бұрын
It's the Jiggle man, he's out in the wild
@D4rkGreenАй бұрын
diddy's gotta throw a party after winning this one
@ShadowCraft1195Ай бұрын
With bananas and baby oil
@lukejones7164Ай бұрын
Diddler Kong
@LitttlepersonhiАй бұрын
I have actually tried to replicate some kind of mathematical way of calculating this, but I think your method is actually surprisingly simple and effective. Thank you so much for making this video, this is something I have always wanted someone to make but I never found it until now.
@MikeyDLuffyАй бұрын
@@Litttlepersonhi appreciate it! Yeah I was actually stuck on how to go about the math and asked quite a few people. There are definitely different methods that could work but I thought this one would be simple and effective which is perfect for a video format
@roy_mezz-awake2470Ай бұрын
Obviously Diddy, mf can’t go a game without being top tier and huge in the meta. ZeRo showed us what he was truly capable of.
@SonicTheCutehogАй бұрын
He sucked in pre-patch Ultimate
@roy_mezz-awake2470Ай бұрын
@ ik he did but this is the final version and he’s fucking juiced
@MccDannАй бұрын
VERY cool analysis, this video deserves so much more praise excellent work!
@MikeyDLuffyАй бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate it a lot. Hopefully KZbin helps recommend it haha
@yourlocalraccoondealer8611Ай бұрын
I'd actually calc'd this all a long time ago but it's nice to see a video supporting my exact findings with such good presentation. Good video.
@ItzMeItzMe_Ай бұрын
As a pokemon fan it makes me happy to see our lil guy being one of the best throughout the series
@ChillOut_GamingАй бұрын
Really fun video, hope to see more!
@shiruotakuno28Ай бұрын
Glad to hear my boy Diddy performed so well! He is definitely my favorite character in Smash Ultimate.
@nextosАй бұрын
Mikey D Returning to Smash vids? Lets go!
@ArmenautАй бұрын
One of the best smash analysis videos I’ve seen, keep up the great work!
@Overzach12345Ай бұрын
Very cool way to do this, well done!
@MikeyDLuffyАй бұрын
@@Overzach12345 thank you!
@thekitywhocanАй бұрын
"#4 is cap" - Marss (probably)
@MikeyDLuffyАй бұрын
When I said that I think she is a little underrated, I had a passing thought that I hope Marss never watches that part 😅
@MVM.7Ай бұрын
Very well made. Keep up the good work.
@MikeyDLuffyАй бұрын
Thank you!
@gentlekef8653Ай бұрын
Happy to see another video :)
@MikeyDLuffyАй бұрын
@@gentlekef8653 thank my goat!
@Sly88FryeАй бұрын
As soon as I saw a Pikachu was number 3 I had a feeling Diddy Kong would be number one. I started with your top 10 worst as it showed up in my recommendations, but then decided to watch this one as well. I guess I just was really surprised to see Sonic make the list because I remember him being at one point really low in Brawl but I guess he just kept improving in that game and yeah he's amazing in four and ultimate. Despite Sonic being not as good in Brawl, somehow playing as have came naturally to me since I first unlocked them day one March 9th 2008 when raw first came out at midnight. My friends and I played for 10 straight hours and unlock them that way. He's been my main since brawl even though my main fighters before all I'd say quite different. My voice to text keeps getting the words wrong. Anyways congrats on getting the 15,000 subscribers! I got there last month and hopefully that momentum will continue
@MikeyDLuffyАй бұрын
Appreciate you checking out the other video too! Hope you liked them. Yeah haha I also had the impression that Sonic wasn't great in Brawl but I guess he got better throughout the games life as people figured him out
@Walterhartwellwhite07Ай бұрын
Mikey D smash content????? Let’s go My prediction for top 5 is: 1. Pika 2. Fox 3. Diddy 4. Zero suit 5. Sonic
@MikeyDLuffyАй бұрын
@@Walterhartwellwhite07 No lie, playing Rivals 2 just made me miss Smash LOL
@Walterhartwellwhite07Ай бұрын
@@MikeyDLuffy real dude I been yearning for some joker with all the sf6 I’ve been playing
@AidswayzАй бұрын
"You didn't put Bowser Jr. as #1, therefore this list is wrong. My friend, Brandon, always beat us at his birthday party when we would play timed free for all's. Side b is OP!!!!" - 9 year old Timmy Jokes aside this is seriously fucking impressive shit. I do not know how long it must have taken you to make this and especially draw the P5 break-ins for characters, but it looked great. Honestly I'd love to be able to see the full list to see where everyone placed if you have it available. Other than that you get a like from me. Great work dude Little Timmy is right though. Brandon's Morton is crazy
@MikeyDLuffyАй бұрын
Appreciate it a lot! I didn't check every single character unfortunately, but I could and make a quick video just listing them from top to bottom!
@AidswayzАй бұрын
@@MikeyDLuffy Yeah that’d cool, whatever works! I don’t want you to do any more work than you already have because I know the pain of working on a video for months haha
@shafir5726Ай бұрын
Great Video!
@MikeyDLuffyАй бұрын
@@shafir5726 thank you,!
@crSIMBAАй бұрын
Banger video keep it up
@Bradyy.Ай бұрын
Great video man 👍
@MikeyDLuffyАй бұрын
appreciate it!
@eunjeemaeng8618Ай бұрын
Ooohwow sooo insightful 👏
@glob-zt5ciАй бұрын
Great video
@MikeyDLuffyАй бұрын
@@glob-zt5ci thank you!
@RILEYSWORLD1Ай бұрын
i thought it was Fox because he won a Super Major in 3 different Smash Games (Melee, Smash 4 & Ultimate) and a ton of people play as him and an example is LarryLurr
@eidwight_teh_revenantАй бұрын
i knew that monke was gonna be number 1, i always knew it. no one ever believed me, but now they do!
@yeihaАй бұрын
Love the content
@Driff97Ай бұрын
Seeing this now, so here's my prediction: 5: Sonic 4: Zero Suit Samus 3: Diddy Kong 2: Pikachu 1: Fox
@Ray_SBАй бұрын
Very well made video! I like that you tried being objective, though I do have to say that I'd prefer to see a less mathematical take on this for 2 reasons. 1: Strats get nerfed and/or banned over time. This especially hurt Ice Climbers, bc they would have probably been #1 in Melee if it wasn’t for the wobbling ban. 2: Reason I think Fox and Pikachu are by far the best characters in the series is precisely because they were in more games. That should be rewarded, as they're "risking" their throne more often than Diddy did. Same reason why someone who wins 1 P Tier and never shows up again would not be ranked #1, and it would instead go to the guy who got 2nd/3rd place in 5 different tournaments.
@MikeyDLuffyАй бұрын
@@Ray_SB Thank you! And although I personally agree with the thought that more games should be rewarded, the example of winning 1 P tier is exactly why I didn't include Cloud Snake Steve etc. With that example of Lumi Ranks, people actually are buffed by doing well at a few majors and then stopping, just like Diddy is here. Obviously you can't go to just 1, but the less you go to the better you get ranked, as long as you go to a minimum amount and do well
@yoshi-omb48336 күн бұрын
Man was REALLLY hoping yoshi would make it :[
@mandalorianhunter1Ай бұрын
I would give more to Peach because her placement in Smash 4 became before her great run in 2018. Honestly she deserves to be higher Yeah Brawl Marth is awesome. I honestly think Sonic in Brawl deserves to be higher because he has some good MUs above him. Icies I think are much better then the tier placement says
@gabrielmarchena1755Ай бұрын
Honorable mentions cloud and bayo
@YauDerAllerEchteАй бұрын
Really nice work. Well done. Always wondered about that topic but your concept I didn't come up with. Props for that, I just always tried to make by feeling and as you said, my answer was always theoretical Diddy, but due to Fox and Pika being consistent over 5 games I was always in Team they get number 1. Is there a way you could publish the entire list of all characters that were in 3 or more games? I guess you did the math for all of them? Maybe in the description or a link? Would be really interesting
@MikeyDLuffyАй бұрын
Appreciate it! Yeah I also always had Fox and Pika in mind when people talked about the best of all time but thought it would be interesting to check out the numbers. I didn't check some of the obvious characters who wouldn't make the cut, but I can finish up the list and then publish it after!
@YauDerAllerEchteАй бұрын
@@MikeyDLuffy But not for me of course. Probably could even be content for a sequel video. I would see that, just real quick go over the order of every characters score that was in 3 or more games :D
@tmanxult003Ай бұрын
It appears that for ages to come, Diddy will always stay relevant...
@kenspeedway1572Ай бұрын
Predicting top 5: -Fox -Pikachu -Diddy Kong -Meta Knight -Marth
@treemanboy16 күн бұрын
Olimar is the GOAT. Him being top 10 brings me joy. He’s my main
@TheMoonPersonTVАй бұрын
OLIMAR THE GOAT absolutely never misses. dumpsters that fraud meta knight
@davidhansbury702 күн бұрын
Banger
@Alexanderjones-ss9ukАй бұрын
Mario's moves are just so iconic in Smash
@oddgodzilla225Ай бұрын
please make more smash content bro please. like your like the only good teacher for things like strategy. or do rivals of aether please bro
@MikeyDLuffyАй бұрын
@@oddgodzilla225 haha appreciate it! I've just been getting back into Smash again recently! Going to start with videos like this but I'll try to get into the more depth stuff too
@3clisp315Ай бұрын
Ngl I wasn’t expecting diddy Kong, but looking at his placement… yeah it’s crazy how I forgot about him. Not having a placement in the double digits after over a decade is crazy
@Eclipsmon8421Ай бұрын
Ok. My prediction for top 5 would be this: #5: Sonic #4: Zero Suit Samus #3: Pikachu #2: Fox #1: Diddy Kong Let's see if I'm right. Edit: Yippee
@MrNapkinoАй бұрын
Diddy being the best surprised me, thought it was fox for sure, but it makes sense. Also, Diddy isn't in melee but I feel he would've been really good in that game as well. Maybe around yoshi level.
@bagelpenguin6499Ай бұрын
My guesses for the top 5: 1. Diddy kong 2. Fox 3. Pikachu 4. Falco 5. Sheik
@jamainegardner4193Ай бұрын
I feel like if you're not gonna include characters introduced after Brawl, they should've been struck from the tier lists first to make the rankings easier to handle.
@definitelydoctorproctorАй бұрын
after ssc and supernova this year i feel pika will return to his true top 10 form in next years tierl ist
@MikeyDLuffyАй бұрын
@@definitelydoctorproctor agreed, I actually think Pika being 17th in Ultimate is lower than he will end up, which is funny as Pika has often seen overrated throughout the years but now 17th seems too low
@definitelydoctorproctorАй бұрын
@@MikeyDLuffy for sure, even top 3 seemed low to me
@toonishighАй бұрын
Locking in 1. Diddy kong 2. Pikachu 3. Fox 4. Sonic 5. Sheik At least i got first😅
@MikeyDLuffyАй бұрын
@@toonishigh great guesses tbh haha, I had sheik high on my initial guess. Brawl did her dirty 😭
@BlackMamBa-yq5on22 күн бұрын
ZSS's peaks were even stronger She was number 2 at some point in Smash 4 and top 3 in Smash Ultimate. If the nerfs never happened she could have been first
@theterribleclaw4285Ай бұрын
9:47 nice to see my girl Samus getting on the list she's my Smash main also my dream girl I'm attracted to bad asses.
@jjmmano6 күн бұрын
Spoiler warning As a diddy main, the banana peel got first, not diddy lol
@felixharper523Ай бұрын
THis is my predictions, before seing the video, of characters that have hight chances of being on the list (not in order) : Rob , peach, sonic, mart,
@mltprngkim391Ай бұрын
For my top five I'm gonna go diddy kong, sonic, fox, mario, pikachu
@mltprngkim391Ай бұрын
I'm crazy
@MikeyDLuffyАй бұрын
@@mltprngkim391 haha Mario has had some good showings for sure, but also a few stinkers that brought him down quite a bit
@austinperezgk1Ай бұрын
Fox McCloud
@papersonic9941Ай бұрын
My Top 5 before seeing it: 5-Yoshi 4-Zero Suit 3-Diddy Kong 2-Fox 1-Pikachu
@TwentySixth_Ай бұрын
My personal opinion: Diddy kong is overall the best, his worst placement being 9th on the official ultimate tier list!
@TwentySixth_Ай бұрын
no fucking way i predicted this LOLLL!!
@Chillgolfer9664Ай бұрын
The best player for Smash 4 Pioneer Diddy Kong when he was nerfed after being broken for so long, and Fox is by far the best character to ever pick up if you play very fast with his combos and his kit works out so well. I love Fox as a character to be picked up as a secondary. I mainly go with little Mac because he fits the style of going fast but trades with power than weak moves and recovery. But players have figured out that little Mac has a lot of tech behind him to be unstoppable.
@aidenvega6306Ай бұрын
Little mac unstoppable? I don't know about that one lil bro. He'll peak at second worst above ganon and thats it
@wariothelegend9645Ай бұрын
i knew Diddy Kong would be #1 even though he's only been in three games. all of his placements are in the single digits, which is crazy. i think if you ran this formula for bottom tiered characters, Zelda (Shiek notwithstanding) might actually end up worse than Ganondorf. Zelda's been bottom 10 in all of her appearances. Ganondorf's alright in Melee, at least.
@MikeyDLuffyАй бұрын
Good idea tbh, might be worth checking for another a video
@gawbe.Ай бұрын
Haven't finished the video yet but my predictions are: Diddy (People dont realise that this guy has never not been s tier) Fox (Either Fox or Pika, but I think due to ultimate fox will be higher) Pika (Good all around) Zss (My main, never not been a tier) Marth (idrk, him being really good in 3/4 of the games makes me think he might still be there) This is hopeful btw, as marth & zss are my favourite characters 😊
@MikeyDLuffyАй бұрын
great predictions haha
@LumityLiveАй бұрын
i would say pikachu would be the best character across every smash game since he was only a mid tier in one game being melee and he won and axe has won a summit with pikachu and in the other 4 games was considered a high tier even being the best character in 64 he has one at least one insanely stacked event across every smash game making him be the only character who has always had always won a major or stacked event like a invitational across every smash game
@bryanvickersАй бұрын
They should make Ganondorf absolutely broken in the next game, just for the lols
@MikeyDLuffyАй бұрын
@@bryanvickers would not be opposed to that. Would be super funny to see the contrast
@tymunsterАй бұрын
My top 5 prediction to start the video was Fox, Pika, Peach, Diddy, Falco. But after the Midpoint, imma hit it with the Diddy, Fox, Pika, Sonic, Falco
@biomechannibal88883 күн бұрын
The phrase "Pocket Diddy" hits different these days.
@shaq238Ай бұрын
Fox and pikachu get extra points for being in more games. This combined with the fact that fox is better known from smash than his home series makes him the goat of smash for me
@skunkoooАй бұрын
really surprised falcon didn't make it in here
@MikeyDLuffyАй бұрын
These were his scores! He got hurt a lot by brawl and a bit by Ult as well. Smash64: 81.82 Melee: 80.00 Brawl: 10.81 Smash 4: 66.04 Ult: 51.85
@skunkoooАй бұрын
@@MikeyDLuffy yeahhhh that's what i figured, he was so dog in brawl 😭😭
@Paragon-rq7vlАй бұрын
I expect Fox because not only is he the best in melee but he's been pretty good in other games as well, same with Falco. Also Pikachu because no 1 in smash 64 and fairly good rankings across all other smash games except brawl but not even that bad. Shiek has been pretty disgusting too in all games except ultimate, so she's also in my predictions. Last but not least, Diddy Kong, amazing in brawl with two bananas, amazing in smash 4, fairly good in ultimate.
@dagoodboy6424Ай бұрын
I think ultimates rankings arnt near finished yet. Bit still ready to see these results
@MikeyDLuffyАй бұрын
Agreed! I think Ultimate will end up changing quite a bit
@myuutosanАй бұрын
Why'd you not include falcon in 64?
@MikeyDLuffyАй бұрын
I checked Falcon, he didn't make the top 10 even with a good placement in 64/Melee but his Brawl and Ultimate placements hurt him a lot
@thunder24063 күн бұрын
I’m at 9:42. I think top 3 is Fox, Pikachu and ROB. Maybe Diddy Kong. It’s 3 out of those 4
@azcartoons4622Ай бұрын
After Pikachu and Fox were mentioned, I started narrowing it down to who could be the number one: My guesses were Mario or Diddy, but when you mentioned that he didn't appear in every game, my final answer became Diddy Kong... And goddamn, I called it
@TwiinklingАй бұрын
Mario ? Trash in Brawl... and bottom mid in Melee 😮
@azcartoons4622Ай бұрын
@kevinnapolitano35 Yeah, looking back, I have no idea why I thought Mario would be number 1. Guess his higher placements in 4 and Ultimate influenced my thought process
@aquaduud26 күн бұрын
Do you think smash 3ds would affect the ranlings at all?
@MikeyDLuffy26 күн бұрын
@@aquaduud might make Diddy even more dominant tbh LOL. But yeah I'm sure it would change a few things. Sheik would probably make it for sure
@not_really_gregАй бұрын
My top 5: Diddy Kong, Zero Suit, Falco, Pikachu, Fox
@4206vidsgaming29 күн бұрын
5:00 Peak Brawl Meta Knight
@MikeyDLuffy29 күн бұрын
The quad tornado is iconic!
@jeremyhoang727917 күн бұрын
Meta Knight is my favorite fictional character of all time.
@LukeCrockett-tk8bxАй бұрын
you should do this for smash players across the games with a similar ranking system
@SRM13Ай бұрын
Too many banned players
@emotion_deluxeАй бұрын
It's probably Pikachu, Fox or Peach right? Maybe ZSS?
@prismoid00Ай бұрын
My prediction: #5: Sonic #4: Diddy Kong #3: Fox #2: ZSS #1: Pikachu
@nextosАй бұрын
Best designed kit sounds fun too
@oaojairaf7892Ай бұрын
How do you even measure that
@curiosityman3704Ай бұрын
Y'know what's reallu funny about Brawl Pika and Brawl Fox? While their ranked 8th & 15th respectively on the American Tier List, The Japanese Brawl Tier List ranks Brawl Fox at 7th and Brawl Pika at 22nd. I lowkey understand them ranking Brawl Fox more highly as I personally think 15th is *not* where I'd rank him. Not just cause I think his actual kit itself is sevearly underrated, not just cause of players like TKD, Trevonte, & Yui, but *especially* after considering M2K's own experiences in Japanese Brawl tourneys that he attened during Brawl's lifespan (he talks about this on his Brawl Tier List video on the MVG channel) but 22nd for Pikachu is insanity to me... were there NO Japanese Pika's over there? Was ESAM really just hard carrying?
@DragonMaster1818Ай бұрын
Before video guess: I think it’s probably diddy kong, top tier/broken in all of his appearances. If it’s all 5 games, then I think it’s either fox or pikachu but leaning towards fox Edit: Let’s go I guessed the top 3 (in order as well)
@brandonkong4299Ай бұрын
I wanted to see this video and see if I was right and that my main Diddy being the best character and was so right and was right about Pikachu & Fox being high up on the list just didn’t know who’d rank higher
@Lucasmain1036 күн бұрын
lucas is so slept on
@qwakeshaek28 күн бұрын
If I would have to give constructive criticism, please don’t show everything too fast, talk slower, be consistent with sound effects, and use a music track that doesn’t distract viewers! Much love, have a good day❤
@TramiNguyen-oi3kpАй бұрын
Kirby is my favorite Super Smash Brothers character!
@obamsus6848Ай бұрын
I take fat dumps on Kirby
@DonavanMcGruderАй бұрын
Yo me too
@B86msАй бұрын
Same
@TurtleTurtle-d8kАй бұрын
I like Him as well
@aidenvega6306Ай бұрын
That's so tragic
@GodRandomGamingАй бұрын
3ds mentioned !
@TommyBrady_Ай бұрын
Pikachu Fox Meta Knight Bayonetta Steve
@michaelfulford52035 күн бұрын
Fox was the MAN in Melee. Hate how they nerfed him in Brawl.
@ForsetiNEАй бұрын
curious where falcon ends up
@VaporwavelolАй бұрын
I was going into this thinking it’s gotta be Pika or Fox but damn Diddy just too good…that feels wrong to say…
@MikeyDLuffyАй бұрын
@@Vaporwavelol 🤣 make sure to include the "Kong"
@DogeKingOfficialАй бұрын
Where’s the verified check mark on your acc? This is peak KZbin and I’ve been tryna answer this off of memory for weeks now, finally I have an answer! Thank you! ❤
@MikeyDLuffyАй бұрын
@@DogeKingOfficial haha appreciate it! I'll keep working at it and hopefully the KZbin algorithm helps out 😅
@freddiewilliams993926 күн бұрын
My top 3 prediction is going one of 2 ways: Fox, Diddy, Pikachu Diddy, Fox, PIKACHU LOCK IN BOYS!!!
@brandonfoster7013Ай бұрын
no clue about top 5 but with the ranking system diddy gotta be #1
@brandonfoster7013Ай бұрын
Nostradamus looks to me for inspiration
@MikeyDLuffyАй бұрын
🤣
@FlappyCat-ef6oq23 күн бұрын
Prediction: 1 Pikachu 2. Diddy Kong 3. Fox 4. Ice Climbers 5. Marth 6. Sonic 7. Sheik 8. Peach 9. Zero Suit Samus 10. Mario
@varsa507Ай бұрын
Snake #4 in ultimate? That's gotta be a joke, I've legit never seen a snake player win a game
@Goober-s1jАй бұрын
Predictions: 1.Pikachu 2.Peach 3.Fox 4.Marth 5.Sonic Ok so all the characters I guessed made it on the list at least. Diddy makes sense, didn’t think of him but I understand why he is there
@GameWatch-xu6sbАй бұрын
Extra points to the Ice Climbers. ✌️
@HiILikePizzaАй бұрын
No?
@GameWatch-xu6sbАй бұрын
@HiILikePizza Yes.
@AddyIsaacАй бұрын
Cha la Head Cha laa
@ChibiMalzaharАй бұрын
My prediction for the top 5 is 1. Diddy Kong 2. Pikachu 3. Fox 4. Sonic 5. Sheik
@GaybrohamStinktonАй бұрын
Dr Merryo
@brogan294Ай бұрын
This one is harder to guess before the video than the worst fighter vid. I could see the top 1 being Fox or Diddy.
@brogan294Ай бұрын
Guessed the top 2 but didn't specify which one is #1. maybe if the requirements were 4 or 5 games Fox would be #1 but 3/5 is a pretty fair amount of games to pull from. Didn't mention him but Pikachu being #3 isn't that surprising. He's just fundamentally got a good kit. Sonic was a little surprising top 5 but zss wasn't.
@SimonSaidSoАй бұрын
alright top 5 prediction before watching the video: FOX, PIKACHU, ROB, DIDDY, SONIC okay fine Ill do them in order: ROB --> DIDDY --> FOX --> PIKACHU --> SONIC dang didnt see zss coming.