Production value is crazy good, visuals are bangers
@MikeyDLuffy24 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@PJiggles14 күн бұрын
Super interesting video! I'd love to see your complete list with every character's placements. I've done similar math myself to find the *worst* Smash character who by my calculations ended up being Zelda, not Ganondorf as you said in this video (unless that was just a joke lol) Anyways I hope this video pops off, keep it up fam
@IlovePootis300016 сағат бұрын
It's the Jiggle man, he's out in the wild
@Litttlepersonhi23 күн бұрын
I have actually tried to replicate some kind of mathematical way of calculating this, but I think your method is actually surprisingly simple and effective. Thank you so much for making this video, this is something I have always wanted someone to make but I never found it until now.
@MikeyDLuffy23 күн бұрын
@@Litttlepersonhi appreciate it! Yeah I was actually stuck on how to go about the math and asked quite a few people. There are definitely different methods that could work but I thought this one would be simple and effective which is perfect for a video format
@D4rkGreen24 күн бұрын
diddy's gotta throw a party after winning this one
@ShadowCraft11952 күн бұрын
With bananas and baby oil
@MccDann24 күн бұрын
VERY cool analysis, this video deserves so much more praise excellent work!
@MikeyDLuffy24 күн бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate it a lot. Hopefully KZbin helps recommend it haha
@ItzMeItzMe_24 күн бұрын
As a pokemon fan it makes me happy to see our lil guy being one of the best throughout the series
@roy_mezz-awake247024 күн бұрын
Obviously Diddy, mf can’t go a game without being top tier and huge in the meta. ZeRo showed us what he was truly capable of.
@SonicTheCutehog22 күн бұрын
He sucked in pre-patch Ultimate
@roy_mezz-awake247022 күн бұрын
@ ik he did but this is the final version and he’s fucking juiced
@yourlocalraccoondealer861122 күн бұрын
I'd actually calc'd this all a long time ago but it's nice to see a video supporting my exact findings with such good presentation. Good video.
@nextos25 күн бұрын
Mikey D Returning to Smash vids? Lets go!
@Armenaut25 күн бұрын
One of the best smash analysis videos I’ve seen, keep up the great work!
@ChillOut_Gaming25 күн бұрын
Really fun video, hope to see more!
@Walterhartwellwhite0725 күн бұрын
Mikey D smash content????? Let’s go My prediction for top 5 is: 1. Pika 2. Fox 3. Diddy 4. Zero suit 5. Sonic
@MikeyDLuffy25 күн бұрын
@@Walterhartwellwhite07 No lie, playing Rivals 2 just made me miss Smash LOL
@Walterhartwellwhite0725 күн бұрын
@@MikeyDLuffy real dude I been yearning for some joker with all the sf6 I’ve been playing
@shiruotakuno2821 күн бұрын
Glad to hear my boy Diddy performed so well! He is definitely my favorite character in Smash Ultimate.
@Overzach1234512 күн бұрын
Very cool way to do this, well done!
@MikeyDLuffy12 күн бұрын
@@Overzach12345 thank you!
@Sly88FryeКүн бұрын
As soon as I saw a Pikachu was number 3 I had a feeling Diddy Kong would be number one. I started with your top 10 worst as it showed up in my recommendations, but then decided to watch this one as well. I guess I just was really surprised to see Sonic make the list because I remember him being at one point really low in Brawl but I guess he just kept improving in that game and yeah he's amazing in four and ultimate. Despite Sonic being not as good in Brawl, somehow playing as have came naturally to me since I first unlocked them day one March 9th 2008 when raw first came out at midnight. My friends and I played for 10 straight hours and unlock them that way. He's been my main since brawl even though my main fighters before all I'd say quite different. My voice to text keeps getting the words wrong. Anyways congrats on getting the 15,000 subscribers! I got there last month and hopefully that momentum will continue
@MikeyDLuffyКүн бұрын
Appreciate you checking out the other video too! Hope you liked them. Yeah haha I also had the impression that Sonic wasn't great in Brawl but I guess he got better throughout the games life as people figured him out
@eidwight_teh_revenantКүн бұрын
i knew that monke was gonna be number 1, i always knew it. no one ever believed me, but now they do!
@mandalorianhunter124 күн бұрын
I would give more to Peach because her placement in Smash 4 became before her great run in 2018. Honestly she deserves to be higher Yeah Brawl Marth is awesome. I honestly think Sonic in Brawl deserves to be higher because he has some good MUs above him. Icies I think are much better then the tier placement says
@gentlekef865325 күн бұрын
Happy to see another video :)
@MikeyDLuffy25 күн бұрын
@@gentlekef8653 thank my goat!
@RILEYSWORLD124 күн бұрын
i thought it was Fox because he won a Super Major in 3 different Smash Games (Melee, Smash 4 & Ultimate) and a ton of people play as him and an example is LarryLurr
@wariothelegend964524 күн бұрын
i knew Diddy Kong would be #1 even though he's only been in three games. all of his placements are in the single digits, which is crazy. i think if you ran this formula for bottom tiered characters, Zelda (Shiek notwithstanding) might actually end up worse than Ganondorf. Zelda's been bottom 10 in all of her appearances. Ganondorf's alright in Melee, at least.
@MikeyDLuffy24 күн бұрын
Good idea tbh, might be worth checking for another a video
@MVM.724 күн бұрын
Very well made. Keep up the good work.
@MikeyDLuffy24 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@shafir572624 күн бұрын
Great Video!
@MikeyDLuffy24 күн бұрын
@@shafir5726 thank you,!
@Bradyy.25 күн бұрын
Great video man 👍
@MikeyDLuffy25 күн бұрын
appreciate it!
@Ray_SB14 күн бұрын
Very well made video! I like that you tried being objective, though I do have to say that I'd prefer to see a less mathematical take on this for 2 reasons. 1: Strats get nerfed and/or banned over time. This especially hurt Ice Climbers, bc they would have probably been #1 in Melee if it wasn’t for the wobbling ban. 2: Reason I think Fox and Pikachu are by far the best characters in the series is precisely because they were in more games. That should be rewarded, as they're "risking" their throne more often than Diddy did. Same reason why someone who wins 1 P Tier and never shows up again would not be ranked #1, and it would instead go to the guy who got 2nd/3rd place in 5 different tournaments.
@MikeyDLuffy14 күн бұрын
@@Ray_SB Thank you! And although I personally agree with the thought that more games should be rewarded, the example of winning 1 P tier is exactly why I didn't include Cloud Snake Steve etc. With that example of Lumi Ranks, people actually are buffed by doing well at a few majors and then stopping, just like Diddy is here. Obviously you can't go to just 1, but the less you go to the better you get ranked, as long as you go to a minimum amount and do well
@crSIMBA25 күн бұрын
Banger video keep it up
@mltprngkim39111 күн бұрын
For my top five I'm gonna go diddy kong, sonic, fox, mario, pikachu
@mltprngkim39111 күн бұрын
I'm crazy
@MikeyDLuffy10 күн бұрын
@@mltprngkim391 haha Mario has had some good showings for sure, but also a few stinkers that brought him down quite a bit
@Aidswayz24 күн бұрын
"You didn't put Bowser Jr. as #1, therefore this list is wrong. My friend, Brandon, always beat us at his birthday party when we would play timed free for all's. Side b is OP!!!!" - 9 year old Timmy Jokes aside this is seriously fucking impressive shit. I do not know how long it must have taken you to make this and especially draw the P5 break-ins for characters, but it looked great. Honestly I'd love to be able to see the full list to see where everyone placed if you have it available. Other than that you get a like from me. Great work dude Little Timmy is right though. Brandon's Morton is crazy
@MikeyDLuffy24 күн бұрын
Appreciate it a lot! I didn't check every single character unfortunately, but I could and make a quick video just listing them from top to bottom!
@Aidswayz24 күн бұрын
@@MikeyDLuffy Yeah that’d cool, whatever works! I don’t want you to do any more work than you already have because I know the pain of working on a video for months haha
@eunjeemaeng861824 күн бұрын
Ooohwow sooo insightful 👏
@skunkooo19 күн бұрын
really surprised falcon didn't make it in here
@MikeyDLuffy19 күн бұрын
These were his scores! He got hurt a lot by brawl and a bit by Ult as well. Smash64: 81.82 Melee: 80.00 Brawl: 10.81 Smash 4: 66.04 Ult: 51.85
@skunkoooКүн бұрын
@@MikeyDLuffy yeahhhh that's what i figured, he was so dog in brawl 😭😭
@toonishigh21 күн бұрын
Locking in 1. Diddy kong 2. Pikachu 3. Fox 4. Sonic 5. Sheik At least i got first😅
@MikeyDLuffy21 күн бұрын
@@toonishigh great guesses tbh haha, I had sheik high on my initial guess. Brawl did her dirty 😭
@yeiha25 күн бұрын
Love the content
@glob-zt5ci24 күн бұрын
Great video
@MikeyDLuffy24 күн бұрын
@@glob-zt5ci thank you!
@TheMoonPersonTV25 күн бұрын
OLIMAR THE GOAT absolutely never misses. dumpsters that fraud meta knight
@YauDerAllerEchte24 күн бұрын
Really nice work. Well done. Always wondered about that topic but your concept I didn't come up with. Props for that, I just always tried to make by feeling and as you said, my answer was always theoretical Diddy, but due to Fox and Pika being consistent over 5 games I was always in Team they get number 1. Is there a way you could publish the entire list of all characters that were in 3 or more games? I guess you did the math for all of them? Maybe in the description or a link? Would be really interesting
@MikeyDLuffy24 күн бұрын
Appreciate it! Yeah I also always had Fox and Pika in mind when people talked about the best of all time but thought it would be interesting to check out the numbers. I didn't check some of the obvious characters who wouldn't make the cut, but I can finish up the list and then publish it after!
@YauDerAllerEchte23 күн бұрын
@@MikeyDLuffy But not for me of course. Probably could even be content for a sequel video. I would see that, just real quick go over the order of every characters score that was in 3 or more games :D
@thekitywhocan5 күн бұрын
"#4 is cap" - Marss (probably)
@MikeyDLuffy5 күн бұрын
When I said that I think she is a little underrated, I had a passing thought that I hope Marss never watches that part 😅
@Driff9713 күн бұрын
Seeing this now, so here's my prediction: 5: Sonic 4: Zero Suit Samus 3: Diddy Kong 2: Pikachu 1: Fox
@Alexanderjones-ss9uk17 күн бұрын
Mario's moves are just so iconic in Smash
@bryanvickers8 сағат бұрын
They should make Ganondorf absolutely broken in the next game, just for the lols
@MikeyDLuffy8 сағат бұрын
@@bryanvickers would not be opposed to that. Would be super funny to see the contrast
@kenspeedway157211 сағат бұрын
Predicting top 5: -Fox -Pikachu -Diddy Kong -Meta Knight -Marth
@MrNapkino21 күн бұрын
Diddy being the best surprised me, thought it was fox for sure, but it makes sense. Also, Diddy isn't in melee but I feel he would've been really good in that game as well. Maybe around yoshi level.
@3clisp31523 күн бұрын
Ngl I wasn’t expecting diddy Kong, but looking at his placement… yeah it’s crazy how I forgot about him. Not having a placement in the double digits after over a decade is crazy
@gabrielmarchena175524 күн бұрын
Honorable mentions cloud and bayo
@oddgodzilla2259 күн бұрын
please make more smash content bro please. like your like the only good teacher for things like strategy. or do rivals of aether please bro
@MikeyDLuffy9 күн бұрын
@@oddgodzilla225 haha appreciate it! I've just been getting back into Smash again recently! Going to start with videos like this but I'll try to get into the more depth stuff too
@tmanxult00324 күн бұрын
It appears that for ages to come, Diddy will always stay relevant...
@papersonic994110 күн бұрын
My Top 5 before seeing it: 5-Yoshi 4-Zero Suit 3-Diddy Kong 2-Fox 1-Pikachu
@jamainegardner419322 күн бұрын
I feel like if you're not gonna include characters introduced after Brawl, they should've been struck from the tier lists first to make the rankings easier to handle.
@not_really_greg2 сағат бұрын
My top 5: Diddy Kong, Zero Suit, Falco, Pikachu, Fox
@gawbe.24 күн бұрын
Haven't finished the video yet but my predictions are: Diddy (People dont realise that this guy has never not been s tier) Fox (Either Fox or Pika, but I think due to ultimate fox will be higher) Pika (Good all around) Zss (My main, never not been a tier) Marth (idrk, him being really good in 3/4 of the games makes me think he might still be there) This is hopeful btw, as marth & zss are my favourite characters 😊
@MikeyDLuffy24 күн бұрын
great predictions haha
@austinperezgk124 күн бұрын
Fox McCloud
@bagelpenguin649919 күн бұрын
My guesses for the top 5: 1. Diddy kong 2. Fox 3. Pikachu 4. Falco 5. Sheik
@tymunster22 күн бұрын
My top 5 prediction to start the video was Fox, Pika, Peach, Diddy, Falco. But after the Midpoint, imma hit it with the Diddy, Fox, Pika, Sonic, Falco
@bryanmulcare908324 күн бұрын
The best player for Smash 4 Pioneer Diddy Kong when he was nerfed after being broken for so long, and Fox is by far the best character to ever pick up if you play very fast with his combos and his kit works out so well. I love Fox as a character to be picked up as a secondary. I mainly go with little Mac because he fits the style of going fast but trades with power than weak moves and recovery. But players have figured out that little Mac has a lot of tech behind him to be unstoppable.
@aidenvega630622 күн бұрын
Little mac unstoppable? I don't know about that one lil bro. He'll peak at second worst above ganon and thats it
@theterribleclaw42855 күн бұрын
9:47 nice to see my girl Samus getting on the list she's my Smash main also my dream girl I'm attracted to bad asses.
@TommyBrady_24 күн бұрын
Pikachu Fox Meta Knight Bayonetta Steve
@shaq23823 күн бұрын
Fox and pikachu get extra points for being in more games. This combined with the fact that fox is better known from smash than his home series makes him the goat of smash for me
@LumityLive7 күн бұрын
i would say pikachu would be the best character across every smash game since he was only a mid tier in one game being melee and he won and axe has won a summit with pikachu and in the other 4 games was considered a high tier even being the best character in 64 he has one at least one insanely stacked event across every smash game making him be the only character who has always had always won a major or stacked event like a invitational across every smash game
@Eclipsmon842124 күн бұрын
Ok. My prediction for top 5 would be this: #5: Sonic #4: Zero Suit Samus #3: Pikachu #2: Fox #1: Diddy Kong Let's see if I'm right. Edit: Yippee
@prismoid0021 күн бұрын
My prediction: #5: Sonic #4: Diddy Kong #3: Fox #2: ZSS #1: Pikachu
@nextos25 күн бұрын
Best designed kit sounds fun too
@oaojairaf789224 күн бұрын
How do you even measure that
@LukeCrockett-tk8bx8 күн бұрын
you should do this for smash players across the games with a similar ranking system
@SRM133 сағат бұрын
Too many banned players
@GaybrohamStinkton20 күн бұрын
Dr Merryo
@definitelydoctorproctor23 күн бұрын
after ssc and supernova this year i feel pika will return to his true top 10 form in next years tierl ist
@MikeyDLuffy23 күн бұрын
@@definitelydoctorproctor agreed, I actually think Pika being 17th in Ultimate is lower than he will end up, which is funny as Pika has often seen overrated throughout the years but now 17th seems too low
@definitelydoctorproctor23 күн бұрын
@@MikeyDLuffy for sure, even top 3 seemed low to me
@dagoodboy642424 күн бұрын
I think ultimates rankings arnt near finished yet. Bit still ready to see these results
@MikeyDLuffy24 күн бұрын
Agreed! I think Ultimate will end up changing quite a bit
@GodRandomGaming21 күн бұрын
3ds mentioned !
@DogeKingOfficial20 күн бұрын
Where’s the verified check mark on your acc? This is peak KZbin and I’ve been tryna answer this off of memory for weeks now, finally I have an answer! Thank you! ❤
@MikeyDLuffy20 күн бұрын
@@DogeKingOfficial haha appreciate it! I'll keep working at it and hopefully the KZbin algorithm helps out 😅
@varsa5079 сағат бұрын
Snake #4 in ultimate? That's gotta be a joke, I've legit never seen a snake player win a game
@Paragon-rq7vl20 күн бұрын
I expect Fox because not only is he the best in melee but he's been pretty good in other games as well, same with Falco. Also Pikachu because no 1 in smash 64 and fairly good rankings across all other smash games except brawl but not even that bad. Shiek has been pretty disgusting too in all games except ultimate, so she's also in my predictions. Last but not least, Diddy Kong, amazing in brawl with two bananas, amazing in smash 4, fairly good in ultimate.
@brandonfoster70135 күн бұрын
no clue about top 5 but with the ranking system diddy gotta be #1
@brandonfoster70135 күн бұрын
Nostradamus looks to me for inspiration
@MikeyDLuffy4 күн бұрын
🤣
@TwentySixth_22 күн бұрын
My personal opinion: Diddy kong is overall the best, his worst placement being 9th on the official ultimate tier list!
@TwentySixth_22 күн бұрын
no fucking way i predicted this LOLLL!!
@DragonMaster181822 күн бұрын
Before video guess: I think it’s probably diddy kong, top tier/broken in all of his appearances. If it’s all 5 games, then I think it’s either fox or pikachu but leaning towards fox Edit: Let’s go I guessed the top 3 (in order as well)
@Goober-s1j5 күн бұрын
Predictions: 1.Pikachu 2.Peach 3.Fox 4.Marth 5.Sonic Ok so all the characters I guessed made it on the list at least. Diddy makes sense, didn’t think of him but I understand why he is there
@ChibiMalzahar21 күн бұрын
My prediction for the top 5 is 1. Diddy Kong 2. Pikachu 3. Fox 4. Sonic 5. Sheik
@curiosityman37045 күн бұрын
Y'know what's reallu funny about Brawl Pika and Brawl Fox? While their ranked 8th & 15th respectively on the American Tier List, The Japanese Brawl Tier List ranks Brawl Fox at 7th and Brawl Pika at 22nd. I lowkey understand them ranking Brawl Fox more highly as I personally think 15th is *not* where I'd rank him. Not just cause I think his actual kit itself is sevearly underrated, not just cause of players like TKD, Trevonte, & Yui, but *especially* after considering M2K's own experiences in Japanese Brawl tourneys that he attened during Brawl's lifespan (he talks about this on his Brawl Tier List video on the MVG channel) but 22nd for Pikachu is insanity to me... were there NO Japanese Pika's over there? Was ESAM really just hard carrying?
@AddyIsaac25 күн бұрын
Cha la Head Cha laa
@GameWatch-xu6sb23 күн бұрын
Extra points to the Ice Climbers. ✌️
@HiILikePizza21 күн бұрын
No?
@GameWatch-xu6sb20 күн бұрын
@HiILikePizza Yes.
@EienteiFortressКүн бұрын
Fox is still my GOAT
@azcartoons462222 күн бұрын
After Pikachu and Fox were mentioned, I started narrowing it down to who could be the number one: My guesses were Mario or Diddy, but when you mentioned that he didn't appear in every game, my final answer became Diddy Kong... And goddamn, I called it
@kevinnapolitano353 күн бұрын
Mario ? Trash in Brawl... and bottom mid in Melee 😮
@azcartoons46223 күн бұрын
@kevinnapolitano35 Yeah, looking back, I have no idea why I thought Mario would be number 1. Guess his higher placements in 4 and Ultimate influenced my thought process
@brogan2945 күн бұрын
This one is harder to guess before the video than the worst fighter vid. I could see the top 1 being Fox or Diddy.
@brogan2945 күн бұрын
Guessed the top 2 but didn't specify which one is #1. maybe if the requirements were 4 or 5 games Fox would be #1 but 3/5 is a pretty fair amount of games to pull from. Didn't mention him but Pikachu being #3 isn't that surprising. He's just fundamentally got a good kit. Sonic was a little surprising top 5 but zss wasn't.
@SimonSaidSo5 күн бұрын
alright top 5 prediction before watching the video: FOX, PIKACHU, ROB, DIDDY, SONIC okay fine Ill do them in order: ROB --> DIDDY --> FOX --> PIKACHU --> SONIC dang didnt see zss coming.
@Vaporwavelol24 күн бұрын
I was going into this thinking it’s gotta be Pika or Fox but damn Diddy just too good…that feels wrong to say…
@MikeyDLuffy24 күн бұрын
@@Vaporwavelol 🤣 make sure to include the "Kong"
@michaelstringfellow6754Күн бұрын
For sure thought pikachu and fox would go 1 and 2.
@emotion_deluxe21 күн бұрын
It's probably Pikachu, Fox or Peach right? Maybe ZSS?
@defiant10302 күн бұрын
Best of all time is pikachu, then fox, then falco, then falcon, then sheik
@mvjbass95615 күн бұрын
Top 5 predictions: 5) Pikachu 4) Olimar 3) ZSS 2) Fox 1) Diddy Kong
@mvjbass95615 күн бұрын
Not too bad! I haven't followed Ultimate in a while and didn't realise Olimar & ZSS were considered quite a bit worse. Diddy is too consistent, I hope he's not top tier in Smash 6 lol
@KaiJie-n8q4 күн бұрын
We need coney to see this.
@MikeyDLuffy4 күн бұрын
Ask him for me and I'll owe you 😅
@brandonkong42995 күн бұрын
I wanted to see this video and see if I was right and that my main Diddy being the best character and was so right and was right about Pikachu & Fox being high up on the list just didn’t know who’d rank higher
@myuutosan24 күн бұрын
Why'd you not include falcon in 64?
@MikeyDLuffy24 күн бұрын
I checked Falcon, he didn't make the top 10 even with a good placement in 64/Melee but his Brawl and Ultimate placements hurt him a lot
@ForsetiNE4 күн бұрын
curious where falcon ends up
@kaylone417415 сағат бұрын
Avoiding the point system, I genuinely think prepatch Smash 4 Bayo is the best character of all time
@zeusdeegoose11 күн бұрын
I think ZSS would make Top 5
@TramiNguyen-oi3kp25 күн бұрын
Kirby is my favorite Super Smash Brothers character!
@obamsus684824 күн бұрын
I take fat dumps on Kirby
@DonavanMcGruder24 күн бұрын
Yo me too
@B86ms24 күн бұрын
Same
@TurtleTurtle-d8k23 күн бұрын
I like Him as well
@aidenvega630622 күн бұрын
That's so tragic
@Mechalizard_yt100023 күн бұрын
For me it's honestly sonic or pyra and mythra they are my mains but although I can accept Steve is the god of ssbu
@shzinprobably46635 күн бұрын
diddy kong is 100% the best he was S tier in all 3 all games
@swaglordtm922912 күн бұрын
Probably metaknight from brawl
@MrKamistra23 күн бұрын
cool
@aundruschkaivanhoe13474 сағат бұрын
I feel like this list was made purely based on stoner logic.
@TheCaptainBlackimar24 күн бұрын
2:23
@MikeyDLuffy24 күн бұрын
hwuaa
@BringBackOGClubPenguin24 күн бұрын
Top 5 prediction 1- Pikachu 2- Fox 3 - Diddy kong 4 - Sheik 5 - Captain falcon or Sonic?
@MikeyDLuffy24 күн бұрын
Sheik 🙏
@BringBackOGClubPenguin24 күн бұрын
@@MikeyDLuffy Yeah, I forgot how bad she is in brawl, what surprises me the most is pikachu, I feel like his placement should be higher, but he is hella underrated in both smash 4 and ultimate, like putting him outside of top 10 is criminal.
@mrquacksalot17 сағат бұрын
Gotta be little mac on god
@CyranoForever1013 күн бұрын
Bruh Snake is absolutely NOT 4th in Ultimate. More like 14th