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[@HavokYT]

I miss DS2 days so much

[@sorenvc]

Just play it on Steam PC. It's still active as hell. I play it on high soul memory and there are people in the pvp arenas. Even invasions work sometimes let alone co-op. Co-op is best in the dlc boss areas though. By the way, Dark Souls II is still the only souls game I ever played and I'm proud because it's the best. From looking at Dark Souls III and Elden Ring and Bloodborne it just looks like a failed Dark Souls 1 copy especially DS3 looks like that. The fast running and rolling, spamming R1 it just looks so bad and probably has horrible gameplay. Dark Souls 2 was the best of the series and after that it died. I don't even want to play Elden Ring. Gonna wait for Dark Souls 2 Episode 2 lol.

[@JakeGittes84]

@@sorenvc You say all this yet you've only played DS2...? You're that type of person, huh. That happens to be the game YOU tried, so it's automatically the best one and there's no point in trying any others. Not even DS1? At least try them first.

[@sorenvc]

@@JakeGittes84 most people haven't ever really tried DS2 PvP when they played it. I can see ds3 and elden ring sux.

[@JakeGittes84]

@@sorenvc And DS2 is considered the weakest game in the series by most people, so.. Maybe give another game a go?

[@patigelstarberry4302]

Slower, more methodical combat, Parry frames that actual work accounting for latency, a back step that has I-frames, being able to invade a solo player. Good times.

[@monsieurdorgat6864]

Also... just way less toxicity! I mean there's still some, but noticeably much less than DS3/ER.

[@Sohelanthropus]

Damn right, and actually balanced stuff with no free win buttons

[@monsieurdorgat6864]

@@Sohelanthropus let's be realistic here though mate... DS2 did have ice rapier R1 spam. That was pretty cancer. Difference is that in DS2, skill actually matters. You don't have to work as hard to beat someone mindlessly spamming because good play matters a more than the crutches available. DS3 rolls fucked the whole thing up. They're spammy and require way more effort to beat than they do to spam. They're fast and long enough that R2's became too slow to be a viable timing mixup - they'd be too far away. DS3 has ass fundamentals. DS2 has good fundamentals, even if there's unbalanced stuff! That's the difference.

[@Sohelanthropus]

@@monsieurdorgat6864 literally what I said

[@ChevalierdeJohnstone]

That’s it! I’ve been trying to figure out why the pvp in this game is so definitely the best. You nailed it. Specifically the slow, methodical combat makes latency predictable and thus much less of a problem.

[@Drunk_Souls]

Oro, this really reminds me of back in 2014 or so. I was 16 or so and I watched your videos RELIGIOUSLY. I still do. But you're mainly the person who made me the PVPer/content creator I am today. It's wild. I've got a weird nostalgic attachment to your videos and this throws me WAY back my dude. I feel like a kid again. I'm 26 and dusty af now.

[@Styles_Breez]

26 is still a kid

[@dbzsuperfan711]

Same on all counts bro

[@griffyriches6908]

@Drunk_Souls same and now I’m 22 watching YOUR videos lol !

[@polrock1747]

DS2 had the best gestures in the entire series, I wish From brought back "Decapitation" or "No way" to Elden Ring with the new DLC or something.

[@makanishu]

Hand swinging one is my favourite lol

[@FusionComet]

War cry!!!!!

[@bllover1684]

Ngl Decapitation is so edgy that i cringe everytime i see it

[@Tokumastu1]

I just want the "pumped up" emote to make a return.

[@questingmoo]

@@bllover1684 that's the best part. It's so ludicrously edgy and cringey

[@Lord_Pilaf]

There was just something about DS2 that was so aesthetic. Even the way you 2-hand a sword looks way cooler than the other games.

[@zzodysseuszz]

The two hand appearance was based off real HEMA so that’s why it looked cool

[@PieMastyr]

demons' has the same two handing grip style i believe, and it was always something i appreciated

[@Sohelanthropus]

Yeah, it looks "practical" rather than have it looking upwards all weird like in DS3 and ER

[@Xero-rr2ol]

The way you hold and use weapons in darksouls 2 is more realistic then all the other souls games.

[@goose0078]

I'll never stop missing my DS2 Partizan. Movesets in that game were so good for pvp.

[@cryog3nic_759]

Don't you just love seeing that DS3 instinct to heal turning against them in the slower games? I sure do.

[@LGreymark]

and the instinct to panic roll. Gets you murdered in ds2

[@MARMOTAPLAY825]

Back when everyone wasn't an Estus addicted Sonic. Good times

[@benmcconaughy6241]

Fancy seeing you here

[@jarrarwinks8470]

@Mota. No, everyone was/is addicted, we just time it different since we are al slower.

[@monsieurdorgat6864]

@@LGreymark Seriously, DS3 is such a spammy, casual game. DS2 really forced you to be precise to defend properly.

[@DinoConV]

Man, I miss some of the DS2 fashion so badly. There were some seriously peak armor sets in that game. This also might be my favorite Oro

[@BenOtterson]

I wish I knew what armor he was using, this is some fine drip

[@lred1383]

@@BenOtterson throne watcher chest, dragon acolyte mask, engraved gauntlets, and the legs are kinda hard to identify

[@venom19977]

@@lred1383 I may be 6 months late, but the legs are from the wanderer set.

[@sharkodile22]

It's nostalgic and eery how little things have changed. When I gave it a go, Murakumo running/rolling R1 into superparry works just as well in the year of our Marika's tits 2023 as it did in 2014, and my first arena fight was against a Havel spamming Warmth and Acid Surge. We really have made zero progress as a species, huh?

[@sincereflowers3218]

If anything we've gone backwards in 10 years

[@asdergold1]

Protip: the old stone knight armor and weapons actually work, albeit barely, when broken.

[@zzodysseuszz]

@@asdergold1laborate on “barely”?

[@IAmWhiteEagle]

"the year of our Marikas tits" dude, that made me laugh so fucking hard

[@caiooa]

@@asdergold1 wouldn't it be better to just use santier spear?

[@pointblank25]

The “Buhbye..!!” plus Dark Souls 2 is hitting the right nostalgia buttons

[@rokva5771]

Boy does this take me back. The endless hours of dueling in the bridge and arenas, the chaotic belfry invasions, the hordes of meta-tryhards running moon scimitars, ice rapiers, washing poles, red iron twinblades with dark weapon, etc, only to get fucked by a naked man with a buckler shield and a dagger. So many good memories, thank you Oro.

[@TheKingofFiends]

Man that nostalgia trip. God I love the bridge

[@javiercampos6144]

Bino speed glitch,mundane daggers ,monastery scimitar,crazy casting speed for hexes ,Santier’a spear ,Avelyn ,stackable body buff.God It was so good

[@splinter360]

Had to double check the upload date! Quite literally played this throughout the Christmas holidays while I had the time off. For me it's the best Dark Souls. It had so many innovations DS3 lacked and it's no coincidence they brought some of it back, like powerstancing. The fact you could infuse boss weapons and even buff them made builds so much more fun.

[@CheeseInvader]

the best thing was to find a host hiding in a closed room and then close the door, the despair the host feels when he sees that he is stuck in that room with you is priceless.

[@joehanson2250]

I love that oro sticks up for DS2 its just a hell of a good time

[@craimaxblack]

F

[@RauschenPauli]

dark souls 2 always had the best PVP. the variety, pacing were on another level

[@FishReallySucks]

I miss DS2 PVP so much, way more fun than just one shot build after one shot build on ER

[@Sohelanthropus]

Yessir

[@AlfredoSoraX]

The slow rolling and slow healing was 👌 Its so annoying how people just roll like 30 times in a roll, and chug quick af and HP goes all the way up just for you to do it all over again. If you were good in DS2 PvP you were a god in DS3/ER PvP just cause you know all the roll catching animations and whatnot.

[@nuttynut8134]

idk if you knew this but there is technically a one shot hex build with the spell Climax, bloody bastards would use it on host of fight clubs a lot back in the day… good times

[@FishReallySucks]

@@nuttynut8134 true but at least you had to farm for souls n shit to use it effectively and if you missed the first cast of it there's no comparable second chance in the same invasion/summon

[@djspit8929]

​@@nuttynut8134 i would have max buffed pyros and cast a few warmths and one lingering flame. Once the host got close theyd blow up. Only did that when i was heading to bed though, and was gonna leave the fight club any way lol (some would go on for an hour or 2)

[@zekkekeipa6521]

Ah, Dark Souls 2, the game where dual-wielding done right.

[@TheDeliciousMystery]

A return to the best dark souls game. A tale of salt and sourpuss eternally retold.

[@Janquin-ie6vk]

This particular souls game will always have a special place in my heart, no matter how many years pass.

[@eagercadet4059]

Does anyone else feel like Dark Souls 2 had the best variety in fashion for the Souls series as a whole?

[@hillshaveeyes31]

We need more of this! Bring back Santa and Friends.

[@Oroboro]

Santa is dead 🎅💀

[@Nephutis]

cliff racer/foxy here, the DS2 hacking community kinda went our seperate ways after this game. just wasn't the same going forward when a lot of the cool shit you could do for flavor would go back to being clientside only. glad you enjoyed our shenanigans though.

[@hillshaveeyes31]

@@Nephutis thank you for always making the fun times that much more fun

[@sideways198]

I love seeing DS2 still being recognized after all those years. Easily the most fun pvp out of all the souls games

[@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi]

If you ask me its in general the best, even PVE although the bosses were bad the game makes up with its mechanics and content. Dark Souls 3 was for me terrible in every aspect cause even PVE was plain boring cause all you did was spamm R1 for perma stunlock on enemies cause nobody had poise, ugh. I renember on the last DLC the cathedral boss that you could become which was a fun part but no no no they had to nerf it, after DS2 the franchise died to me. Glad Elden Ring brought alot of good things back but I have to rate the PVP there yet.

[@thegangster3366]

@@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi I've tried so hard to get into Elden Ring but I just can't the PvP feels so wrong DS2 is considered the worst souls game but nothing has ever matched the fun I had in that game.

[@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi]

@@thegangster3366 Yeah by the casuals its considered the worst but not by experienced players who actually play the games. I keep returning to DS2 here and there and just having fun PVP times where I actually know it was me playing bad when I loose, not the enemy chugging 500 estus and I failed to instakill them. Why does Elden Ring PVP feels wrong? I use Reshade and uncapped FPS to make use of my 144HZ monitor so I cant PVP in it for now I've played all there is of the Souls series except for Bloodborne cause I dont own said console. To me by far 3 was the absolute worst they ever made. It was entirely casual and had so little content or variety it was an incredible boring experience, sure bosses were fancy but whats the fun if PVP is unplayable, PVE is "okay" cause mechanics are barely there and on top of that a DLC gives you OP weapons in every category.

[@thegangster3366]

@@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi The PvP has been the worst I've seen in the series attacks have no momentum and it just devolves into weapon art spam I've tried various build but I haven't really enjoyed any of them not to mention they brought back the horrible DS3 invasion system. There isn't one weapon I enjoyed since most have very lack luster move sets. I'd take DS3 PvP any day over ER at least DS3 PvP worked.

[@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi]

@@thegangster3366 Oh god, the "weapon art spamm" was already horrible in DS3, especially with the DLC weapons. So you mean if you invade everyone can still heal and you have to always deal with multiple people? I mean what you describe sounds like exactly DS3 xD There the DLC also added a weapon with superb weapon art for each category literally, its bold to call DS3 PVP working considering you could never even punish anyone even if they missed with whatever weapon

[@poly_g6068]

Corvus is a boss dude. Drops in all scary like, puts on a show

[@Bodabem]

Was recently marathoning all of your old DS2 videos and now you upload this

[@kaschey6145]

Seeing this game's PvP is so refreshing every time. Somehow, it still feels like the most balanced and well-paced duel combat in the series while Elden Ring provides quite great PvE experience but I swear, invading and dueling there is such a suffocating jump attack/ashes of war spam fest.

[@MrJinglejanglejingle]

Best PvP indeed. Ghatdamned, I missed this game.

[@weaponizedautism3269]

Worst invasions

[@patigelstarberry4302]

@@weaponizedautism3269 No, this was in a time when fighting 3 players at once wasn't a requirement of an invader.

[@weaponizedautism3269]

@@patigelstarberry4302 No heals and red eye orb

[@ocin129ocin129]

The slow flask heal is what I think did it. The ER poise is ok but the real problem with DS2 pvp was the pary fall on ass animation.

[@ebonslayer3321]

@@weaponizedautism3269 Phantoms don't get healing either while there's an invader. Only the host can.

[@Pliskkenn]

NGL I unironically loved DS2 PvP the most. The choices of viable weapons, builds, and magic seemed so much broader than the rest of the series. The slower pace made it feel more chess like.

[@bixybixy2]

Brings me back to our duels on the bridge, years and years ago, you were doing caestus or bone fists at the time and I was using the curved dragon GS... good, fond memories.

[@alastairspackman9515]

Best souls PvP by a long shot

[@sorenvc]

Best souls game by a long shot. Gameplay is worth 60% of a game. 20% story 20% design. It ticks all areas. Soul Memory is bad but you can just make a new character which it was designed for, so people can always invade characters. It's not like you were supposed to have one SL150 character with all weapons unlocked. I made a SL838 character farming giant lord with all items possible and the rest of the characters I've planned to be SL150, pvp focus only.

[@hazatheonly]

Obobobo!!! So good to see you back in these lands, of all the soul brand i faced you and peeve were the only ones i didn't get to fight :( . Much love bud you're videos from back in the day inspired me to push and i certainly put in my fair share of hours

[@KalimbaTV985]

Your ds 2 vids feels more enjoyable after many years like a wine. Thank you Oro!

[@brayachdragonbane7529]

not only was that first invasion/kill/parry, but it also rolled the Engraved Critical hit effect to boot... amazing as always orobobo

[@unsubme2157]

Is that how those things work? They just kick in sometimes? Good to know i never really knew

[@brayachdragonbane7529]

@@unsubme2157 its like a 2% every time you attack that it will do an exponential damage bonus based on WEAPON.... ie, the bsk has a different modifier to the chaos blade.... its such a complicated math.... they also have some serious durability weardown every time you swing/crit

[@meshiu2344]

Damn. This just flooded me with so many memories. The best Souls for PvP and invasions by far. The arena when it was active really was the place to be. You were going to see all kinds of crazy ass shit. Oro you are a legend man and we love you.

[@Tokumastu1]

Replayed Ds2 front to back recently and man is it still fun. If anything I feel it's gotten better with age.

[@JanoyCresva1]

The complaints are over blown but it’s definitely the worst soulsbourne game overall

[@Tokumastu1]

@@JanoyCresva1 nah it's not the worst. I feel that goes to DS3.

[@asdergold1]

@@Tokumastu1I'd have to agree with 3 being the worst. It gave every enemy a lunge and multi-hit attacks because bloodborne, even though that wasn't really nearly as bad or at all in bloodborne. It also made them faster while keeping the player the same speed. The progression also was tight enough to be considered torture.

[@Tokumastu1]

@@asdergold1 For me it's that and the level design felt bland. Good art direction, but playing through them didn't feel interesting or as intricate as DS 1&2.

[@PaleAudio]

From a pvp perspective id say the only bad entry is Elden Ring tbh. Everything else is tolerable at worst for ds1-3. Things have counterplay other than pull something else out that’s even more broken. The hardcore fans of each game like to shit on the other games because they’re different and take different skill sets and knowledge to play at a higher level. Elden ring throws all of that out the window by being the most unbalanced shitshow I’ve personally played. As for PvE, I find ds2 to be the worst simply because I see the amount of enemy placements as artificial difficulty, but I’m also most accustomed to ds1 where ganks aren’t super common and you can more easily get control of groups

[@joppiseni3710]

Ds2: oh shit we got two Elden ring: oh nice, only two, was expecting 3

[@Mitia_k]

I am so glad that you uploaded a DS2 video; it really in a league of its own when it comes to PVP! Thank you.

[@MechAdv]

I remember being so excited to PVP in DS3 because it was my first PC Dark Souls game with 60fps and a gaming monitor, and I had massively improved my internet since DS2 on PS3. I remember the EPIC duels on the lava bridge with the back and forth momentum of battle and careful spacing and stamina management. I won ~70% of my duels using just a claymore and a parry buckler. In DS3, I got fucking destroyed in almost every duel and could not beat an invader to save my life. It always felt like I was getting one shotted, stun locked, or cheesed with OP shit. I honestly thought that the skill gap had just passed me by or something. Turns out DS2 PVP was just really balanced and fair for pretty much any build, and the soul memory mechanic everyone hated did a good job filtering cancerous players from most matchmaking.

[@ludicitychannel]

seems like every time I look up your channel there's a new return to ds2 vid and it always makes me so happy

[@timothysheppard8842]

Mad respect for those role catches

[@nna1u39]

the flare and gracefulness put into the praise the sun emote on ds2 is WHY I PLAY THIS GAME

[@PieMastyr]

did a quick coop session with a friend when the servers first came back and only got invaded once at the warf and once at aerie. had some fun and it brought back some great memories

[@reddnerd2449]

God this is so nostalgic, I love to see it!!

[@cathiefTTV]

Missed ur pfp vids! Love ya oro. I’m pretty sure u and yukas were my first 2 KZbinrs i discovered when first playing these

[@el9668]

Clocked about 600 hours into ds2 pvp. Good memories. Ds2 name: Kukeduen, maybe I've met someone here.

[@womp_head]

Yes this is awesome, this is what I’ve been looking for. The others just didn’t hit the same maybe, because I felt you were making super strong builds and just running through people with no care. But here you have item switching, guard breaking and backing stabbing; I love it. There’s just so much more to the combat.

[@Garry503]

9:40 A Thymesia reference in Dark Souls 2. Absolutely based.

[@kelvinsantiago7061]

I finished else ring yesterday and went back to Dark Souls 2 Sotfs and now I know how true happiness feels like!.

[@kingtk5848]

Man I remember watching your DS2 vids so many years ago. Electric Feel music video was goated.

[@solidbagingo350]

I love your enthusiasm with dark souls pvp lol

[@MegaINVALIDname]

that is my exact armor combo! im flattered

[@OMIMox]

Thank you for uploading this! I was literally thinking about going back to DS2 PvP like 3 days ago, I've got a SM200 using the blacksteel katana (inspired by your video) and loyce greatsword with 50 faith that I wanna have some fun with again. I probably will boot the game back up, immediately after finishing this video.

[@Naim11443]

try using like, ice rapier with melu cimitarr dual wielded LOL , and a uchigatana with a spear to dual wield too LOL, remember that the same type of weapon can be dual wielded with other ; )

[@asdergold1]

@@Naim11443 power stance and dual wielding are two different things. And for dual wielding, Twinblade + Great Lance and Great Lance + Gargoyle Bident are the best, most ridiculous ones.

[@Naim11443]

@@asdergold1 lol true, i will try your combo tho

[@questingmoo]

I do find it funny how the biggest threat was magic spam in *shrine of amana*

[@chickensandwich1098]

Damn, this brings me back when I watched your DS1 - DS2 videos, good times

[@CBT_MASTER1]

using the left hand cloak ring to hide your bucker is genius.

[@CyanTangerine]

He used to get shit for it back in the day from the elitists Barehand parry and buckler have the same animation but barehand has a fraction of the parry frames the buckler does The sweatys would just use barehand to parry and complain about his lack of skill for using the no bonfire ring buckler

[@FenSmith]

Feels weird watching an Oro DS2 video where the mic doesn’t clip super hard. Glad to see you back lol

[@Alex-oj8po]

NG+ pvp in DS2 was so fun, none of the other souls games came close to replicating it imo

[@joeheartsbeer]

This just turned my nostalgia meter up to 11

[@TheHuston882]

Dark souls 2 - cool covenants, arena, great pvp system, nice parry, nice player movements, rewarding hits that feel soo good, no stunlock like ds1 but still poise matters. Great times. Oh and almost forgot - auras for winning arena fights!!

[@STORMWVSHERE]

this looks so good honestly, came in on that DS3 wave and never turned back

[@derrikthegreat4133]

I just recently started DS2, nice timing on this vid

[@vvwade]

That jump attack bait is top tier

[@DeadlockDrago]

Friend of mine played through this game for the 1st time. Was good to journey with him (except frigid outskirts).

[@aeroosprey]

I can't believe Oro invaded every DS2 player in one video

[@scorpfs]

How i missed that white steel katana days , bless you oro.

[@Ecco_The_Dolphin]

Glad to see you back in DS2!!

[@mofosweetness]

Hit me right in the nostalgia with the "buh byeeeeee haha"

[@Zaouik]

God the fit on that build is so good. god DAMN I love Dark Souls 2

[@doubtgaming1774]

The awkward movement and turning in ds2 pvp always makes me laugh. I love this game

[@mee091000]

It's crazy how good DS2's PVP is even to this day.

[@techstorezombie9316]

I would love to see a compilation of your toughest DS2 invasions, times where you've invaded people who really know what they're doing and gave you a run for your money or made you work for it.

[@themanonmars]

Those parrys. My God son

[@98haunter]

Man, hearing back the no no no brought back some memories, it raelly has been almost 10 years

[@revalone3944]

love to see u bring back the older games

[@artorias7933]

Ds 2 was my first Ds. Just brilliant

[@germanwojtek3576]

Been playing through my first character I ever made on DS2 on my 360. It’s offline and dead but the charm of the game keeps me coming back . Wearing full drangleic set , wish that set was in other games

[@trencehumphries645]

It's like putting on your old favorite ass-kicking shoes. Great vid

[@darke9218]

Man this takes me back.

[@shawnmarcum8078]

This game seems to just continue to age well over the years. It's the most flexible Souls game imaginable.

[@lordpaps2270]

Ahh the good ol days Ds2 arena was bloody fye🔥🔥 especially that bridge map

[@Atilolzz]

Having lots of fun invading yesterday and today in DS2

[@liambowers9489]

Backsteps that are useable in combat, ACTUAL power stancing, SUPER PARRIES.

[@TheHogfatherInvades]

fantastic video, no wonder hidetaka miyazaki himself tipped you 5 bucks at the end

[@vara8071]

A good day is when Oroboro returns to DS2.

[@adrianUebel]

Holy shit, I remember the first Black steel Katana vid. Gooooood times

[@Nukinator]

i miss the hour long clips you uploaded of these. I hope i'm going to see more of this soon.

[@vsGoliath96]

It's been so long since I played Dark Souls II PvP that I was legit wondering why Oro wasn't just healing with Estus.

[@andreas2084]

Thanks for everything u do!

[@ashtondarch1601]

You are easily my favorite PvP content creator of all time, and you're always such a badass.

[@zaneblightcaller7298]

@oroboro I got a question for you! Out of the dark souls series from demon souls to elden ring present day which of the game would you rather play against pvp and which would you enjoy for PVE and which would you enjoy with friends?

[@biblicallyaccuratesoul]

DS 2 is probably the game I spent the most time in due to being late for D's 1, and had ds3 on PS4 without plus, but could never get a hang of the parries, minus the time when the curved sword parry was a thing. I mean I'm not super great at parries in the other but decent, but I can count my DS2 parries on 1 hand.

[@AbyssalPlague]

It's like you read my mind, dude. Been wanting to play some DS2 lately, and then this video popped up.

[@Skydron]

I played the heck of of DS2 back in the day, but I can't say that I remember a finisher that looked like that. Definitely cool though.

[@clearlynotaneldritchhorror8798]

I always like how you two handed katanas in DS2. It looks way cooler than in DS3 and Elden Ring.

[@jurass1cmonk3y48]

I been playing ds2 sotfs for the first time ever recently, And in my honest opinion as hard as it is sometimes. It's a Very enjoyable game. I get that pumped feeling when playing it like it's one of the best games I've ever played. I just best ivory king and my God was it sad but badass. Ds2 is underrated

[@m.c.i.d23]

I never imagined dark souls 2 pvp videos still being uploaded at the same time as elden ring

[@squidstems]

Still running the Blacksteel Katana. RIP PraiseTheSun

[@idrissawane2059]

Bro you don’t know how much I like the iconic Oroboro signature ”No, no, noooo”

[@seskal8595]

We were waiting for so long

[@LautrecOfCarim]

The original "Winners don't use Hexes"-PSA video may have been lost to time, but at least Oro is still out there spreading the word. Heh.

[@asdergold1]

Winners don't spam hexes and also don't use the soul consuming ones. That's for certain.

[@PieMastyr]

But those dlc hexes were slick as hell lol

[@thrustybagladeur8984]

omg plz upload more ds2 oro! If you can find invasions that is, idk how quickly you got these invasions but I've missed your DS2 oro's arsenal series

[@bradjames3105]

Oh god I just realized he had the illusory ring