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@ElvroomGames8 ай бұрын
I’m a Bismarck main in ranked I think it is the most complete BB. Not the best but it is good. Perfect mix of guns, secondaries, survivability, offence & Defence.
@bumblebity29027 ай бұрын
Tirpitz is better only drawback lacking of hydro.
@ElvroomGames7 ай бұрын
@@bumblebity2902 tirpoitz is the best for aggressive pushes where you know you will win because of torps and you can finish targets quicker and save HP. Bismarck is more complete because you have armor+decent guns wich help a lot, and you have hydro for defense. DD in ranked are very scary because battles are usually close range and that makes torp attacks more easy for DDs
@metalgoby63908 ай бұрын
Roma's armour is Vladi levels of good. People underestimate the italian armour of the bbs. The soviets had to have taken their inspiration for their designs from somewhere And those are the italians
@RazorwaveTV8 ай бұрын
eh, for me Roma never felt that strong when it comes to survivability. still feels much squishier than a vladi, but I'll take another look
@metalgoby63908 ай бұрын
@@RazorwaveTV you deffo need to. Use her stealth whenever you feel like you need a breather. Bow in and keep her swinging
@Arthion8 ай бұрын
They both get slapped if giving broadside, but shrug off almost everything when properly angled, be it HE or AP.
@nilswulf44465 ай бұрын
soviets did not take any inspiration from the italians. Soviet ships are purely made up russian biased wargaming nonsense.
@doug6838 ай бұрын
Picardie owner here: The ship is Anhalt level trash, Worse cherbourg guns, no hp, and the slow speed makes it one of the worst t8 bbs in the game
@RazorwaveTV8 ай бұрын
Glad to know my hunch was correct. I actually own her, just never took her out before - now I'm glad that I didn't. Sounds like she could make a funny video though.
@luukvst10328 ай бұрын
@@RazorwaveTVjust imagine a lyon with t4 dispersion at t8 with a reload booster
@Dhdja27418 ай бұрын
I think Picardie gets 305 mm guns from tier 4 BB, so of course they’re trash at top tiers
@shonix1238 ай бұрын
I shit a lenin in an anhalt with the german he pen. Yeah lenin will play like that .. But i shitted him in 2 salvos doing him 6k each and fires.. Lenin is op until it s pen with he... Or torped. That is why in ranked you sneak him get in torp range with tirpitz. Or kii. And he become fucked
@Dhdja27418 ай бұрын
@@shonix123 you can effectively defeat any BB in a single torpedo salvo
@coralski93738 ай бұрын
Babe wake up, Razorwave uploaded again
@RazorwaveTV8 ай бұрын
is this a dream?
@rjdeseijn8 ай бұрын
I have played Monarch a lot, she's definitely B / C ( gun calibre, reload time and speed ), but Picardie on the other hand is an F.
@notabotball28 ай бұрын
picarde is the same concepts and the burgogne and jean bart. an uptiered version of the previous tier ship but with reload booster, the problem with picardie is that it doesnt have any senblance of acuracy since it is the tier 7 french bb uptiered to tier 8
@Arthion8 ай бұрын
It's even worse, they replaced the T7's 340mm guns with Toulon's 305s that are a litteral downgrade in both HE and AP.
@SebaX928 ай бұрын
Odin and Brandenburg have literally same guns. 305mm.
@RazorwaveTV8 ай бұрын
The difference is Brandenburg actually has other things going for her - makes the guns not so much of a liability
@Arthion8 ай бұрын
@@RazorwaveTV Having an extra turret and not trash-tier hp makes a big difference.
@fignewton907 ай бұрын
@@RazorwaveTVexcept Odin has hydro and Scharnhorst booty-‘shaking moves.
@AlexLee-je5jg3 ай бұрын
@@ArthionOdin have the best armor layout of all tier 8bbs, hp isn’t the only factor when determining a ships durability
@markmiller69628 ай бұрын
Love the Lenin and the Massachusetts, both are my favorite t8 BBs. I still remember how insane Lenin was when Deadeye was out, obliterated everything.
@leovictor42754 ай бұрын
Bro, I have one of those permanent bonuses for a tier 8 and I wanted put it on a battleship. Which tech tree line battleship do you recommend I buy? I was thinking about Vladivostok, but I'm a little afraid, because its range is very low and it's very slow, I don't know how He does well in turning the rudder and I'm also worried about the distance. I didn't see North Carolina on your tier list, I wanted an indication from you. I'm a medium/long player, I casually ride the battleship, I try to position myself better without giving away my broadside. Maybe you can help me choose a tier 8 battleship from the tech tree
@DRienecker7 ай бұрын
Amagi is slept on. Is a jack of all master of none type ship, an all good rounder like the N Carolina IMO. She also has the 'worst' vertical dispersion of any BB, said another way, she is the best ship at hitting angled ships, more reliable than broadsides. She can push, she can kite, Torpedo Protection and that stern armour plate are very nice at eating and bouncing shells.
@temery948 ай бұрын
lol picardie should be in throwing
@Rio_11118 ай бұрын
Picardie can go to throw tier it's a Lyon that trades its nie 330mm guns and decent dispersion for 305mm with ass dipersion and crippled HE and a reload booster. Vladi can go to S tier though. Maybe not quite Lenin level, but better than Massa for sure.
@notabotball28 ай бұрын
atlantico gang rise up
@RazorwaveTV8 ай бұрын
slow and steady wins the race 🫡
@gregoryfolsom78828 ай бұрын
One of the best dockyard ships ever.
@RazorwaveTV8 ай бұрын
@@gregoryfolsom7882 100%, gutted I missed out on her
@janboen36308 ай бұрын
What makes Monarch so bad compared to eg Hawke? Just the Torps?
@RazorwaveTV8 ай бұрын
Hawke has speed, firepower, torpedoes, better gun performance, better AP, not so much worse HE, and more utility - the Monarch does have the advantage of a 32mm bow
@philipreber33148 ай бұрын
Monarch still should be at least b in my opinion, its still extremely strong and he is is quite a bit stronger than on Hawke
@simplgaming84958 ай бұрын
Cruiser tier list when? (Atago should go in high A tier or S tier)
@RazorwaveTV8 ай бұрын
Cruiser tier list is next up!
@philipreber33148 ай бұрын
No there are so many better cruisers than atago not even close to s just really really lacks dpm, mogami is just the better version if u know how to kite and build ur ijn ca
@nilswulf44465 ай бұрын
how the actual foook did you rank a swimming trashcan like Zieten over Tirpitz?
@YamatoForever6 ай бұрын
Anhalt is a lot of fun in OPS. Try using her HE. Her forward firing torps are great and her secondaries are long range for T8 and have great pen. For PVE she is an A tier
@Arthion8 ай бұрын
I'd move Kii below Amagi, despite the torpedoes she's a worse brawler since she lacks the strong turtleback armor Amagi has that makes her near impossible to citadel at close ranges, Kii's citadel is also tall and her belt armor is really mediocre so almost all AP will citadel her. Torpedoes also launch from the stern so they're a touch difficult to use in a drive-by since they take some time to reach the target leaving you completely open broadside in the meantime.
@RazorwaveTV8 ай бұрын
That's a good point! I didn't consider Amagis turtleback
@quoniam4268 ай бұрын
Picardie is the Lyon at tier 8 with smaller guns (305s), it's just a cruiser killer, not that good against BBs despite 16 guns...
@EllieBanks333Ай бұрын
Zieten a bit over-rated. A bit strange having Bismarck & Tirpitz in different tiers, but I suppose those 6km torps have some utility. At least in Brawl mode, and maybe ranked. Otherwise good list. Although it's weird having Lenin & Mass in same tier. I'd be happy to trade my Mass in for a Lenin, even if I had to put in some Doubloons as well.
@jerzykadagan38798 ай бұрын
Amagi in Meh??? U can deal with it easily on 9 tier and even in 10. Great guns, good secondaries, good range.
@TX2673XAАй бұрын
Massachusetts is not so good. Everyone overrates her. When I beat ranked or random versus Piranga, he beats me 90%. And when I shoot after the Piranga, even if it's sideways to me, I do very little damage. I would put it in B.
@kevinduesing74688 ай бұрын
Constellation is a F tier not even close to a B.
@RazorwaveTV8 ай бұрын
Personally I feel really comfortable in her but I can understand why some might not like her
@gianmarcodacol18208 ай бұрын
Really appreciated that boy ❤
@Aviationlord77428 ай бұрын
The monarch was probably the most painful grind/regrind of my life. If you bring one in ranked you’re 110% throwing
@philipreber33148 ай бұрын
Then ur propably not really playing it correctly bc i do regularly carry ranked with it, best he on tier i think, some of the best ap and no horrible survivability
@alpfeanor64318 ай бұрын
where are other tiers
@johnnypatterson75128 ай бұрын
Odin guns are the same as Brandenburg not to mention Odin has hydro while Brand does not.
@RazorwaveTV8 ай бұрын
Brandenburg has more guns and much more heath, way more worth it IMO
@DaMarlboroMan38 ай бұрын
Hawke seems to get citadeled so damn easy. To get crossfired is to die in 1 volley. I probably just suck but the Hawke feels like the least tanky BB I have.
@RazorwaveTV8 ай бұрын
That's true, she's not particularly tanky at all - but I feel like her speed and firepower make up for it if you position well
@alphax47858 ай бұрын
Yumihari is ultra throwing tier, the guns are worse than Mutsu's, the armor is worse than Nagato's, the plane is a non issue since if you're standing back the red BB's are outnumbering your team's and if you're going in you're probably fighting one of the secondary specced BB's and just losing there... or a Vlad or Lenin with their Russian CQ dispersion and getting murdered by overmatch. Monarch is much better, at least you have a 32mm bow, good stealth and quick reload.
@atpyro79208 ай бұрын
Amagi is actually a sleeper ranked pick. It can slap shit from across the map, and if you gorilla build it, you get 10km secondaries, the 140mms of which are Schlieffen accurate. It makes Amagi pushing much better than otherwise, since you can still angle and have damage going out. Not to mention it say 'fuck your angles' rather... oddly (i have 15k'd angled BBs more than once). Nice to see you back by the way, now i have another wowstuber to leave sarcastic comments on again.
@RazorwaveTV8 ай бұрын
that's an interesting point about Amagi, but wouldn't you rather take Kii in that case? Good to be back ;)
@atpyro79208 ай бұрын
@@RazorwaveTV personal preference, really, I've been liking BBs that actually hit things when I shoot at them. By the way, you forgot that Gascan gets the 40 second heal that Massa has, as well as Flandre getting one less heal. That's enough for them to trade places IMO, since BB HP is pretty important in smaller battles.
@RazorwaveTV8 ай бұрын
@@atpyro7920 Definitely! I did forget to mention that about Gascan, but personally I'd still rather Flandre for the sheer HP size and ability to fight off DDs with the secondaries
@KiwiGuy9928 ай бұрын
Monarch is one of my favorite ships and it was really fun to grind through and i have also carried a few times in ranked because the HE is good and AP used correctly deletes a broadside cruiser and and takes massive chunks out of other bb's health
@philipreber33148 ай бұрын
Yeah i think so aswell, yes in the picture of the line t8/9 are lowpoints but t7 is outright broken dpm and conq is conq but Monarch still deals very good dmg with he and the ap slaps extremely hard aswell
@Kiryuu278 ай бұрын
This person only judges based on what he knows, not general knowledge.
@RazorwaveTV8 ай бұрын
What do you disagree on? I'd love to hear!
@Kiryuu278 ай бұрын
@@RazorwaveTV There are many things that need to be corrected in the tier list that you made, many of which should get more value depending on the captain who brought them.
@RazorwaveTV8 ай бұрын
that's the great thing about opinions, everyone can have their own. This video is just my opinion on what ships are strong and what ships are not for the average player
@Slapdash18 ай бұрын
@@Kiryuu27 oh noes the guy gave his opinion on ships! Quck! We must correct it!
@olegseriyoutube8 ай бұрын
Man can u make best tier 9 / 7 / 10 video????🎉😂❤
@RazorwaveTV8 ай бұрын
I will!
@bumblebity29028 ай бұрын
Where is Tirpitz?
@RazorwaveTV8 ай бұрын
B tier!
@bumblebity29027 ай бұрын
@@RazorwaveTV It should be much higher. Tanking capabilities insane as is brawling
@0xANIMAx02 ай бұрын
Roma is A! wtff why c? Flandre is B
@BackToRootz6 ай бұрын
nice video
@ricardophdddsmd8 ай бұрын
Hawke is amazing, but I prefer Rooke because of MM.
@RazorwaveTV8 ай бұрын
This tier list is focusing on ranked battles, so it's only for Tier 8 matchmaking
@ricardophdddsmd8 ай бұрын
@@RazorwaveTV I see, then Hawke is the way.
@testaccountpleaseignore26538 ай бұрын
I would rather take Tirpitz over Brandenburg, since Tirpitz brings overmatch and Brandenburg only has 305mm guns
@RazorwaveTV8 ай бұрын
that's true, but Brandenburg is much more mobile and has better secondaries, it's a worthwhile tradeoff for me
@mussolinipizza66978 ай бұрын
Overmatch doesn’t matter if you can’t hit anything, considering dual turret setup on tirpitz and the wonky dispersion it brings, I think for ranked brandenburg may be slightly better. Slightly because the main tradeoff is brandenburg’s lack of HP.
@testaccountpleaseignore26538 ай бұрын
@@mussolinipizza6697that's fair, yeah. I've not played Tirpitz, but Bismarck dispersion drives me nuts sometimes
@ManuR-l4m8 ай бұрын
Picardie needs to be F. I mean a Monarch is still a monster compared to this pile of garbage.
@RazorwaveTV8 ай бұрын
The one lesson I've taken away from this video is that Picardie is absolute hot trash
@jakubm4265Ай бұрын
Sorry brother vladi slams everyone in rankeds
@davel41015 ай бұрын
ROFL Hawke... A tier...
@mihaitha8 ай бұрын
Picardie is very bad. She belongs in F tier. It's basically a Lyon, with worse guns.