The Best Trainer You Can't Buy - Magene Gravat T300 Review

[@fcnyc]

I’ve been enjoying your channel since the beginning. Yes, I would like to see a review of one lap.

[@stephenwears1183]

Good review, keep up the interesting reviews👍🏻. I bought my son the first Magene, after watching your first video and still working great. Would recommend all the Magene products, including sensors and HR straps, exceptional value.

[@ChinaCycling]

I really should have mentioned in the review that my first generation Gravat is also still going strong.

[@stephenwears1183]

Btw, I’ve been checking out more cycling clothing, quality is improving with some brands rivaling Rapha standards. Quality is improving in China 😊 hope you can do some reviews in the not to distant future.

[@g-man3748]

Please do onelap video, i have been asking you for this since last year. We need step by step how to set up especially being that's it's in Chinese. Can't wait

[@sitoudien9816]

You think Magene would go global with a one lap but only sell in China? WTF. So myopic.

[@ChinaCycling]

Loud and clear. Obviously as a one-man show, my time is limited. I have to make sure the video is useful to many before I invest the time in making it. But, your voice is heard!

[@paincave7379]

@@ChinaCycling Another vote for an updated onelap video. A look at the racing and velodrome features would be welcome.

[@tianbo7429]

onelap is not stable. Besides it is good

[@javierhernandorodriguez4901]

@@ChinaCycling one more vote 😎

[@aminlife]

Magene T300 is my first Smart trainer. Totally awesome.

[@j4s0n67]

Are there any issues?? Im thinking about getting it

[@aminlife]

@@j4s0n67no issues, Good for 1st timers. Maybe not suitable to compare with other brand like wahoo, etc.

[@j4s0n67]

@@aminlife Ahhh thanks soo much for the reply mate

[@terrylim3896]

Great video, and thanks for putting this out! I just received my Gravat 3 a week ago, so you have my vote for the OneLap video, for sure. Thank you in advance!

[@domenicoferraro2322]

Where do you live and how did you order please?

[@TaichoCyclist]

When I imported the Gravat2 from China to Singapore, there was warranty worry and shipping cost like you mentioned. However, I was relieved that the Gravat2 lasted for 2 seasons before I upgraded to a used Neo prior to the release of the T300... Generally, I have great communication with the Magene team via email and would not hesitate to buy the T300 only if the Neo kaput first.

[@ChinaCycling]

To be honest, I think 95 times out of 100 you'd be fine. But, now with 20,000 people watching my channel, I feel more responsibility. If a few hundred people bought it and imported it on my recommendation, than 5% will be a few very sad people. Soooooo... These days my recommendations are usually on the side of caution.

[@duraath]

as a south east asian, this is quite easily available as a lot of seller are able to bring them in to our region. and also this doesnt break our bank compared to the western stronger currencies. a very good review!

[@harryyauwhannes3958]

Just buy it 1 week ago a second hand item but everything is good...Totally awesome

[@TheDumbMeat]

Can you do a review on the thinkrider x7 direct drive trainer from china ?

[@wattmetryczchannel8597]

Two thumbs up for you Joe and for Magene.

[@JonCannings]

Great run-through of the trainer mate

[@outdoor75]

Great honest reviews, hope your leg is getting better.

[@ChinaCycling]

Thanks 👍

[@kaushikiyer3859]

Just recently broke my trainer down during lockdown. This looks and specs are so much like the Elite Direto series

[@jimmym2719]

Good review intend to buy magene T200…wow T300 looks more pro.. thanks for reviewing

[@TejasShah]

Nice information. I have Magene 3. Its awesome trainer.

[@fercuevas5772]

Great unbiased review, imo, my vote towards One Lap review

[@mickchaganis6607]

Another great video. I like when you said about Wahoo nicking the drive belt design. I've got a beautiful and stylish set of Toseek integrated mtb bars on my flat bar road bike which I've never seen by any other major brand. Anyway that leads me to my question. The brands I see all over ebay 'Toseek and EC90' do you know anything about them? Are they considered quality? Putting Toseek handlebars on my road bike is one thing but the abuse my mountain bike is going to get, handlebars are quite important 😂😂

[@Grunge_Cycling]

I use the second gen Magene, and I have the Wahoo Kicker in another home. I can confirm the Magene is much quiter than the Kicker!!! Wahoo sounds like a swarm of bees, annoying as hell.

[@7amid-]

Arthur J what about training? Which one feels more accurate and better ?

[@siklistangpinoy3162]

i've got one today. arrived from china after a month of waiting. so far i am very happy with it. almost realistic experience with zwift. and very quite

[@sitoudien9816]

Did you get it from Magene webstore or aliexpress. How much is shipping to your country?

[@siklistangpinoy3162]

@@sitoudien9816 i got it from 1 supplier from china. i ordered bulk so was shipped by sea cargo cost me 462usd

[@sitoudien9816]

@@siklistangpinoy3162 Was instructions in coherent English? Magene isn't going for the global market.

[@siklistangpinoy3162]

manual is written in chinese but its simple to follow. the app however is in english that's the most important part.

[@gabrielarguello5178]

Love your video, I'm planning on buying one. Now that almost 6 months have passed, would you still recommend it?

[@simeonjupp974]

I’ve had one for 5-6 months and it’s been flawless. So much so that I hand carried (on a cart) back to HK for the Christmas break, then dragged it back to China. Onelap also great, but like riding in a post-apocalyptic world... no-one else there... But free for a year, cheap after that, and easy to use. Also English version now available on App.store.

[@olly9596]

Just wondering joe what is the white helmet that you always use because it’s really cool 👍🏻👍🏻

[@drewmj70]

As at 2021 readily available in Vietnam for around USD$570 on Lazada and also an importer in Da Nang.

[@rechietiu2857]

Nice video! Maybe you can review the new thinkrider X7 pro. Thanks!

[@timothykwok5070]

Any problems faced with TrainerRoad? Read online that there's some issues with the ERG mode when connected via BLE.

[@psianime]

Love the white bike you have, what’s the model and was it custom painted for you?

[@ChinaCycling]

Its a Winspace T1500 in a limited China cycling colour scheme. More info coming when I do the full review.

[@javierhernandorodriguez4901]

HI, i bought a t300 thanks to your video. Do you know if de t300 has cadence sensor info? (built-in). Thanks.!!!

[@roborovski008]

just got one unit myself. is it normal when i move the handlebar left to right (off the bike) , the trainer move along as well?

[@lawrencecsgan]

Would you recommend for block riser ? Joe, mind to explain more on the optical power sensor?

[@SamFromVACE]

Does the watt readings of the T300 has any impact on the trainer in Sim & ERG mode?

[@RixtronixLAB]

Nice video, can it simulate 10% climb correctly ? thanks

[@richardshaw4693]

Hey, I just got this T300 trainer, but it won't pair over Bluetooth, so can't get it set up/calibrated etc. Anyone able to help?

[@KazuyaST]

can you please review the magene t200 or the thinkrider x5-2? im planning to choose between the two

[@ahmadroslan478]

Hi China Cycling, can you do a long term review vanyar elves? Would really love to hear your thoughts..

[@onederment]

Loved it Joe and the front derailleur... is it a Sensah?

[@ChinaCycling]

Yeah, in this video there were two different bikes on the trainer. My new Winspace and also my old eleves which is kind of my test bike for all sorts of parts.

[@roosterrific37]

Good day. Just bought the Magene T300. Frankly, I was convinced because of this video that you made. I have no experience with smart bike trainers so no idea of how to start using it. Upon opening the box, I saw the user's manual, the sad thing is its in Chinese! I need help in setting up this trainer, any idea how I could get the English manual?? Better yet, can you do a step by step setup video?? Thanks in advance for the help and reply.

[@ChinaCycling]

Lemme know what problems you're having!

[@alejandrotrejo7352]

Have you had any issue with the magene t300 after this months?

[@Javiercav]

I have a friend living in China (Shenzhen). If they can buy it. They can ship it to me? Or the only way will be for them to bring it when they travel themselves to my country again ?

[@chrisjuan9249]

Yes, But the added price will be handful

[@brettoau84]

Saw you using watts.pw in the video, looks interesting but I can't get the site to load?

[@wattspower8459]

Our site was hacked by someone with usa ips, old comparations are back, new ones will be up within 1-2 weeks.

[@BobNoodlefoot]

Magene is really putting down the pressure on the established trainer manufactures. The T300 looks just like the competition. Do you really think Magene is getting paid fromn other brands for "staying in China"?

[@AlexssandroPhoto]

unfortunately they are not shipping to Brazil. I bought it and the seller gave me the money back. I would love to buy and do my workouts at home.

[@fariqazaha6321]

Btw the Elite Suito and this Magene T300 are comparable in price and build. What would you recommend?

[@jlai3861]

T300 is compareable to Elite Dircto spec wise with price a little less than Suito.

[@Flyboard12345]

6:48 "Is it accurate? - YES" GP lama has come to a different conclusion. Can you tell why?

[@gplama]

My testing protocol was different. I cover a very wide range of steady-stage wattages and peak sprint powers.

[@natebusch2266]

@@gplama It looked like the t300 was ok at lower cadences but generally got worse as cadence increased (well for me that's no good since I pedal 90-100 rpm). Also in your video it seems like the heat from riding more than 15 minutes makes the reading too high. So for a zwift ride or race it wouldn't be an accurate representation of your performance and affect using this trainer, correct?

[@gplama]

@@natebusch2266 Correct. If you want bypass this issue get a power meter on the bike.

[@natebusch2266]

@@gplama I have one but then if I use that it won't be interactive and I could just pay 200$ and buy a cheap non smart trainer.

[@natebusch2266]

@@gplama If you were to do it that way-- use it with a separate power meter-- is it fairly easy to just ride it without being connected to any apps or other inputs? Ie can it be used just like a normal non smart trainer?

[@JomsF]

Do we need to upgrade firmware before using the magene T300?

[@HarishChouhan]

I am planning to buy this but my only concern is noise. I live in an apartment due to which noise could be a big issue.

[@bacazterchovej2235]

helo i just buy xcadey single crank power meter shimano 105 172,5 mm crank with rechargable batery , can you pls find for me how much recharge cycles can perform ?

[@4791_]

can this be controlled with a wahoo bolt computer?

[@zaahierstanley955]

Any info on the long term review of this trainer in terms of competitive data to your assioma ? Thanx

[@inferno4001]

Any news on this trainer? Still hard to buy?? Or any other more affordable direct drive trainer??

[@RaabStephan]

Onelap isn't free anymore? Would love a review on the new version!

[@ChinaCycling]

I have a "problem" that the weather here in Xiamen is too good - I hardly ever ride indoors now.

[@njm3211]

I'd buy one. I have a Saris H3 which looks quite similar and costs 2X.

[@amirkeedil4654]

I'm impressed w/ T300. Can T300 link w/ Rouvy app? Any possible tat u can try, I've not buy yet as I'm using normal trainer for Rouvy app. It will most appreciated if u can help me w/ tis, most e guys using T300 are using Zwift

[@soulboken4670]

Can you show how to put a disc brake bike on that trainer?

[@inferno4001]

Just did a search on alixpress. I found it in the magene official shop. So it seems it is available? Anyone has more info?

[@normanlim3672]

Could you please do a video on how to change to a 12-speed cassette with the XDR free hub?

[@akhoman]

Hey can you please give me some information on where to buy this in China? Thank you

[@JomsF]

How about the warranty and support of magene?

[@chaitawatprasitsupakul6437]

Can you compare T100 model with T300 model? In term of value and performance

[@Agbaman1]

Is that a one piece bib short at 9:00 . If it is, what the brand and link to get one

[@ChinaCycling]

Nope, just a base layer tucked in to a pair of cheap non-bib bike shorts.

[@tubbytoast2]

Great review 👍 as per normal , I hope maybe an Australasian importer will try and have talks with the makers of these trainers , then I would probably be able to finally afford a smart trainer 😁

[@ChinaCycling]

That would be cool! Lower prices for everyone is nothing but good news.

[@lore1202]

How about the sound? I have to decide between this one and the Tacx Flux 2. Thanks!

[@ChinaCycling]

Very quiet. You'll only hear your chain.

[@tuncakucuk]

Hi. Do you have an update after 2 years?

[@mot0s896]

Would love to see a Review on one lap 👍 hope in a year or two we get this easyer in europe. Aktuell as student who just builded up his carbon china bike with the 2x12 groupset you presentet thair is no money anyways 😭

[@bisayasadbai]

does winspace do unaas stickers on their wheelset? thanks

[@keming222]

I ordered one of this from China Magene on Taobao directly to Singapore with shipping cost around 650USD, used it for a month and nothing much to complain about. For those who want to purchase this, make sure you find a proxy shipping company. You can arrange shipping from Magene to local proxy company's warehouse, then ship to your country. Do note that this trainer weight 21KG with complete packing. If yours need further help for order, can always ask "China Cycling" as middle man :)

[@JeyPsCabero]

Just got my wife a T300. As suggested on this video we did a calibration by riding it above 100w for 30 mins (my wife isn't exactly a strong cyclist so it's hard for her to get to 160w). Then did the spin down as per the Magene Utility App all is good and successful. Tried pairing it with TrainerRoad for a usual Endurance workout and had a very hard time getting to the required wattage (only 130w-140w). I'll get there for 1-2 seconds and then drop to 80w-90w. It got to a point I am at the heaviest gear and still only getting 100w at most. Any suggestions how to properly calibrate the T300. We were also comparing the power readin with the Vector 2 on ym wife's bike and the reading was also off. No where near the power accuracy you showed in the video.

[@ChinaCycling]

Try riding it for a while. Use the Magene Utility App to check what power levels it is reporting and to check for any firmware update. If you're still having issues my email is in my channel info, get in touch and I'll forward you to the Magene folks.

[@dennychou89]

Mine is also problem, the wattage is way down below. It's very hard for me to keep u with the peleton in zwift, my friend who bought it also feel the same thing, he usually climb alpe du zwift for 1 hour 10 minutes using the kinetics, but for magene he need to climb for 2 hours 10 minutes. Already updated to latest firmware. I'm wondering what's the problem

[@dennychou89]

I've been using it for over a month and I kind a depressed

[@dennychou89]

Exact same thing happen to me, I also compare it with my stages power meter and the difference is too much

[@natebusch2266]

@@dennychou89 according to some other unbiased reviews the power reading is not accurate and sits below the accurate reading so I'm not surprised.

[@fariqazaha6321]

Does it come with 11-speed casette ready?

[@ksyeo7]

No, need to buy separately

[@asmestablishment]

My Power Meter of Magene T300 is not stable ... it jumps from 0 to 300 in seconds and It's causing lots of issues ...!! anyone can help here pls?

[@ChinaCycling]

Send them an email! Defaintely sounds not normal.

[@asmestablishment]

@@ChinaCycling Thanks for the reply .. the email I have is bouncing back. Do you have an email of them to send me ... [e-mail]

[@lawrencecsgan]

Any way to solve the rocking side to side when clip on or get out from saddle? Is it because of the physical setup? Also can you advise us how to warm up the trainer ..

[@ChinaCycling]

The rocking is very subtle. I don't know if you could completely stop it though.

[@ChinaCycling]

For wam up, I think 30mins at your usual riding pace (90% of FTP or something) would be fine.

[@lawrencecsgan]

China Cycling thanks joe, hope magene would somewhat improve in this matter.

[@lawrencecsgan]

China Cycling thanks for the advice 😃

[@TakaCycling]

And about the Thinkrider X7 from AliExpress? Im from Brazil, thanks for your vídeos! Its really good.

[@ChinaCycling]

I still need to try one. The boss of the company is also a friend of a friend, my friend asked him if he wanted to send me a trainer to try and the boss said he wasn't interested...makes me a bit suspicious, haha!

[@muhammadafiq9127]

Perfect, I'm gonna get 1

[@jmdeleon1164]

do you have a guide for the spin down calibration? Thanks

[@ChinaCycling]

Not an official one. But, in the app choose spin down calibrate, then spin the speed up and then when you reach the correct speed the app will tell you to stop pedalling. Then just wait.

[@ngtongwu]

There's a new Magene T100 "semi" smart trainer released. Will you be reviewing that soon?

[@yourrightiamwrong9643]

its just a 2nd Generation Gravat, that cant simulate proper climbs. Cheaper, sure. Worthy for you?Thats yours to decide. I personally would not buy it.

[@DennisTeohKokEe]

@@yourrightiamwrong9643, got Gravat X new model as well.

[@judgebao1]

Can u zwift on android? My gravat2 is unable to connect controller on android. Is T300 differrent?

[@DennisTeohKokEe]

I can Zwift on PC ANT+ & Android phone on BLE4.0. Onelap of course no issue.

[@judgebao1]

@@DennisTeohKokEe with Gravat 2 or new T300?

[@DennisTeohKokEe]

@@judgebao1, I'm using T300. My friend using Gravat2 no problem to Zwift.

[@sherveenlotfi]

Honestly, not a huge loss... you're better off with a wahoo or a zwift or another "budget" smart trainer. Avoid the T300. Nobody outside China is missing a great product. I've owned this trainer now for about a year. I bought it as a way to keep active during the lockdowns here in Shanghai in 2022. Within the one-year warranty period, it has gone back to the factory for repairs at least 3 times. The power supply adapter was changed once and the mother board has been changed twice. I'm not sure the ERG function really works as "true" ERG. maybe the issue is with my unit, specifically or with the design of the T300. Magene claims that their ERG feature simply provides a "range" and the rider should work to keep steady power by keeping cadence (and speed stead), lol. So maybe their definition of ERG is different than the rest of the world, but that's their story and they're sticking to it, but in my view, swings and spikes of 20-30% or more are not / should not be a normal thing. They also claimed that the instability of the power (resistance) of the unit, in my case, is related to the variation of the power (current) coming out of the electrical socket in the room where I ride, and they suggested I try different rooms... comical response, but, unfortunately quite typical of the lack of competence within their technical customer service team. In short, I would not recommend this unit, at least not before testing it to make sure that the ERG mode operation is what you need / expect. If you are thinking about buying it just for "free rides" on virtual riding platforms like Zwift or Ruve or whatever, then I supposed it doesn't matter whether the ERG works or not. So... if you're outside China, avoid this brand / model. I'd actually say the same if you're in China, tbh. There are other products on the market that work *much* better and are more robust in design (software) and offer pretty good customer service. Magene and the T300 fail on all those counts.

[@ianstephenson650]

Where to buy?

[@wattmetryczchannel8597]

Yes to Onelap review, please.

[@miguelesteban8775]

Is it compatible with 12s sram eagle qr?

[@wattspower8459]

As an option, You can buy Sunrace 12 spd cassette and put it to shimano hub. Cheap and easy.

[@EduardoCastroP]

Bad News , I’ll love to have one of those but I’m in Colombia.

[@julianalzategomez7195]

Instagram watt. Bikes. Colombia ellos tienen a la venta.

[@martinberry1540]

Lets hope they start shipping internationally

[@rechietiu2857]

I noticed it has no built in cadence?

[@wattspower8459]

No cadence yet. Some sellers like here in Thailand put an extra Magene cadence sensor in the box.

[@andytaylor3590]

Does this do cadence too?

[@andytaylor3590]

FYI it does not after research.

[@zulhazrirazali8335]

Why OneLap apps..even using English Language option....there are dtill so many chinese messages in instructions...confusing!!

[@ChinaCycling]

They're working on a brand new English version. :)

[@How720404]

Hope u can review Thinkrider X7.

[@ChinaCycling]

I asked their boss (he's a friend of a friend) and he wasn't interested. Doesn't give me good feelings to be honest.

[@How720404]

Than too bad,thx for reply

[@s.slyshadow8689]

Hi, can you help me out sorting one out? Please! :)

[@kohpj7770]

They selling 740 usd in Malaysia

[@ChinaCycling]

Still worth it IMHO, but I don't know how much other trainers are there?

[@TheBlueM0onProjekt]

I'd love to see some gravelbikes :D

[@Jimfly30]

Your still in quarantine where you live ?

[@ChinaCycling]

Nope. We can move around pretty freely. Lots of temperature taking and movement tracking though.

[@Jimfly30]

@@ChinaCycling stay safe and healthy 🙏 . Do you know when the winspace carbon wheels will come back in stock?

[@Squash_Man]

Unfortunate that us westerners cannot get this. We can pretty much get any other bicycle part directly from China.

[@louissiow]

How do we purchase it?

[@louisrafaelcom]

Hi other Louis - He says in the video just in China… I spotted a listing on Aliexpress but it's $100 more and shipping to Switzerland would be over $300!

[@danielkramer2106]

@@louisrafaelcom where you've seen it? it could be cheaper than other smarttrainer here in europe (switzerland) greatings from switzerland 😉

[@louisrafaelcom]

Magene Smart Trainer Gravat T300 a.aliexpress.com/_dVLpzCd

[@yourrightiamwrong9643]

it might be sensible if youd tune the "out" down a bit at the end. sounds like sth is hurting you real bad......

[@Sills71]

Why make a video in English about something you can't buy outside of China?

[@ChinaCycling]

There are hundreds of thousands of expats living in China 😁

[@killroy123]

@@ChinaCycling There are DOZENS of us. DOZENS!!!

[@galenkehler]

22 thousand people subscribe to this channel specifically cause we find this stuff interesting.

[@stephenwears1183]

@Chinacycling there is a very large community of expats cycling in China, the reviews help us wade through the mire of mediocrity and rubbish to find the gems like Magene👍🏻

[@haroon420]

Sills71 why are you watching a video about a product you can’t buy???

[@alvinmamangun838]

anyone who is able to connect Magene T300 to Rouvy AR?

[@WattmetryCzEN]

Rouvy works with Magene T100, so it shouldn't be a problem for T300. Rouvy has ANT+ beta for AR version, just make sure you have a good ANT+ stick preferably with an antenna.

[@faisalalharthy746]

It's showing as 1300 USD on there website 🤔

[@ChinaCycling]

Because they don't wanna sell it abroad 😂

[@sylvainmichaud2262]

I'm wondering if Wahoo and Magene are not R&D or manufacturing partners and have an agreement where Magene can't expand outside Asia.

[@ooitzeyang]

It looks more similar to the tacx flux.

[@jlai3861]

Whahoo had invested in Magene that might has something to do with it, who knows.

[@sitoudien9816]

I really want this. Magene should get it's act together and go international. I was really impressed One Lap was free originally. Even if you can import one, is One Lap English friendly. Also their engliah website will ship international. What about support? Too many what ifs.

[@ChinaCycling]

I think Onelap is viable, because downloading in any country is the same. But shipping a 25kg trainer is a bit of a ball ache.

[@rco7647]

My Magene trainer T300 has 30% power accuracy drift versus Assioma power meter, disappointing comparing the +/-2% claim in specifications 😡 Very bad experience with after sales service, I had to buy another speed line which did not solve the issue. Since then no feedback Stay away…

[@ChinaCycling]

Which country are you in and who did you buy through? Contact me via the 'about' in my channel info, I'll see if I can help you find someone...

[@WanderingSword]

china is fast becoming the high tech bicycle epicenter... at affordable prices. I feel the days of brand snobbing are closer to an end.

[@ChinaCycling]

There will always be some brand snobs, but as long as more people are riding bikes faster, it's all good.

[@veganpotterthevegan]

A lot of it is that shops where you live aren't getting these things wholesale. So only people digging online find most of this stuff. It's not all brand snobbery.

[@Grunge_Cycling]

A company that listens to the customers?! What the devil is this?!

[@sitoudien9816]

If only they heard us cry for global dealers and support.

[@neilbuckley5796]

Well, until it gets hot and goes very wrong.

[@chrispalmer3096]

£500 on AliExpress, with £163 shopping. And I guess, custom fee.

[@ChinaCycling]

That shipping is a lot better than I thought to be fair.