The best UNDER 200cc SCOOTER EVER MADE! The Buddy 170i by the Genuine Scooter Company

[@wileecoyote5749]

My 2005 Honda Metropolitan (50cc) that I bought new at time has to date (4/21/24) 65,774 miles

[@wheelie642]

This review was GREAT . I am needing to door to door at houses type of use. Like a paper boy. .. and was concerned of finding a scooter with good off the line response. I’m 265 lbs thanks so much, I’m really appreciating your videos.

[@glenmo1]

I have a buddy 50 cc 2 stroke..love it BUT with the smaller 10-in thinner Wheels/tires .. I seem to feel every bump in the road I have to keep a lookout for all pot holes no matter how small or big.. I can't imagine doing 60 mph with the smaller Wheels.. with that in mind I would probably go for a hooligan with the bigger Wheels instead if I was going for a 175 cc

[@SiegfriedsMotorwerx]

I don’t think the wheels give any kind of noticeable difference. I think it’s a mental thing

[@glenmones713]

@@SiegfriedsMotorwerx is the suspension on the hooligan better than the Buddy?

[@SiegfriedsMotorwerx]

I can’t say the suspension is any better or worse on the hooligan…it may be a viable option to swap forks on your buddy to improve some ride quality. What year is your buddy?

[@johndefalque5061]

I was floored by the price of the Tao, but then I have heard how shitty it is and no-not going that cheap!

[@Jeff-ne2tb]

I have a 2017 170i in the same color scheme. I put mine on a rack on the back of my motorhome and use it for local transportation when I make annual trips to the Rockies. It takes paved mountain roads easily and I never have difficulty finding a place to park at a crowded trail head or in town in the evening. It is a great option.

[@WolfandCatUnite]

Sounds good

[@cannondaleman1]

I have your identical twin. Same year, same color. I added the windshield, rear trunk box and front rack along with two fuel bottles strapped to the back end for longer trips. It has just a little over 5,000 on it and I really enjoy it. I have been wanting to take it out to the mountains. I hope to one day do it. Glad to read your post.

[@SiegfriedsMotorwerx]

Nice! That buddy sounds like it is living the dream! How many miles do you have on it by now?

[@AbarthVirgo]

I have a 2007 Buddy125 with 13,000 miles and I absolutely LOVE IT. I’ve owned many scooters, from Yamaha to Honda and by far my favorite is my Buddy.

[@SiegfriedsMotorwerx]

nice! How is your buddy 125 holding up?

[@jakeryan9469]

A lot of scooters labeled as 200cc (Lance Cali or Havana, Kymco Like) are actually between 160 & 170 cc. Genuine was just more accurate when they named these.. I've had a Buddy 170i Pamplona for about 6 years & it's still my favorite. It's fun, good looking, cheap, easy to keep running, the manuals are available free online in PDF form, & there's lots of cool aftermarket stuff. They've also been selling them in the U.S. for so long that parts & used scooters are becoming cheap & easy to find. I'm thinking about getting an extra one in a different color.

[@SiegfriedsMotorwerx]

How many miles on your 170?

[@thomasgrim4325]

Love this review! You make a good case for buying this model. Its a sleeper because its small , still relatively comfortable and super peppy!.

[@SiegfriedsMotorwerx]

Definitely a sleeper!

[@dukenaungayan5278]

Thank you, purchased a 2021 Buddy 170i 04/04/21 🙏🏽

[@SiegfriedsMotorwerx]

Awesome! How is your buddy treating you?

[@taddmansilla598]

Hello. I enjoyed going along for the ride. Why do you choose to not wear personal protection gear like gloves and long pants and jacket or riding boots? I'm a new rider so just ask questions. Not judging. Just asking.

[@SiegfriedsMotorwerx]

When I ride on the weekends or for any kind of pleasure I wear the following -full face helmet (100% of the time) -jeans (on a motorcycle always on a scooter depending on the weather) -hightop shoes (100% of the time, just never like wearing boots) -gloves (100% of the time) -jacket (50% of the time, the type of ride/who I’m riding with/where we are going/weather all play a role in if I wear a jacket or not With rare exception most of the videos on this channel are filmed in the middle of the work day at my shop. We aren’t a mega dealership so all of us do everything. When I’m not in the middle of a sale I’m Working in our service department. I should take the time to change for the ride videos but here lately it’s been to hot and we are way to slammed and it adds a decent amount of extra time into the filming of the video, we just want to put out good informative content for riders! Sorry for the attire...

[@robertacrowell7252]

I agree totally, the Buddy 170i is amazing! ! I bought a used 10-yo Buddy 170i. I live at high altitude and there are steep grades on occasion. And plenty of twisties. I had a new 125CC Yamaha Vino scooter, which couldn't get up these roads faster than 15-20 mph. Thought I'd get killed. Too many furious motorists when the speed limit was 45-50. Had to say goodbye to it. My first ride on the Buddy 170i, I feared it'd take my head off! Sheesh, power right off the mark. Not a Vino for sure. Wow, my 170i kicks it up the same grades the Vino slugged on, , so I feel safer being able to flow with what traffic there is -- usually impatient Bubbas in huge trucks. I can stay well ahead of road ragers and then dust them when we get to serious curves. I had an SV 650S before, so I love curves and railing it.. The Buddy 170i is great on twisty, upcountry roads; .It's such a blast. .Buddy may not be a track bike like my Suzuki SV., but he wants to rail just the same. I call him my Baby Busa. Plus, unlike the SV 650S, should I beef it, I can pick the Buddy up myself. Oh, and I only go to gas stations that pump 91 octane without ethanol. I can't chance sub-grade fuel up here. And I carry a portable gas canister., I mean the mileage is amazing, but up here in the Sierras you never know where gas is. And with the Buddy's 1.9L tank... I take precautions up in these mountains.

[@SiegfriedsMotorwerx]

You should get some ride videos posted! I'd love to see you put that buddy to work! It is crazy with the vino 125, even the buddy 125 will smoke them out of the box. They really needed to be put on a diet...hahaha

[@VespaPortland]

Great video! We love the Buddy 170.

[@lgwappo]

I have this scooter, same year, same color. Goes 65 indicated. Probably the most nimble scooter in its class. Short wheelbase & 10" wheels. This is a blast on twisty roads. I have a Honda Metropolitan & it's light & tiny but too slow to get out of my neighborhood so I looked for something light & small that would do at least 60 & discovered the Buddy 170i. It's a nice break from fighting my 492 pound Suzuki Vstrom in & out of the garage & between the cars. FWIW I would never put that basket on it. If I had to haul stuff I'd get a trunk or backpack but that's just me.

[@SiegfriedsMotorwerx]

Yeah personally I prefer the front racks to the baskets, the 170i is definitely a fun little weapon. We have a video coming of a 170i with 25k miles on it

[@anthonymurphy5850]

You made a good argument about parking space...I have 2006 buddy 50 scooter love it do messenger work in Washington DC perfect in the downtown area ..but I have taking this little cc scooter much further in distance than I should ride it and it performs really well.

[@karenpreston797]

I haven't driven, but have recently had a great experience as a passenger - smooth ride, comfortable & fun; no problem with powering us up & around hills & higher terrain.

[@blitzmotorscooters1635]

Ill take SYM, Genuine Buddy or Lance _anyday,_ over Vespa, Honda, Yamaha or Piaggio. Dont get me wrong, Id love to deal those other brands but there is a reason those first 3 brands comprise almost all the market share; the price/quality ratio is top dead center. Ive seen MANY Fiddle III, Buddy 170i, Havanas and Cabos with 30,000 miles or more. You just change the oil and keep going.

[@SiegfriedsMotorwerx]

My 3 would be genuine, Honda, Yamaha. Vespa overcharges and under delivers. Specifically in the states. Sym and lance we see to many issues on practically new bikes customers have

[@glenmo1]

If you get a scooter definitely get a windshield... I purchased the primo windshield for my buddy 50.. keeps you warmer in the wind off of you.. reduces you from getting hit with bugs.. . If you're caught in the rain you could duck behind the windshield... Also gives you approximately 2 mph+ faster top end as there's less wind resistance! .

[@glenmo1]

I put a scooterworks.. non-catalytic exhaust on my buddy 50 (I did not rejet) I do an honest 40 mph on level ground via GPS (45 on speedo ) .. I ride my buddy 50 like a sport bike.. lean it way over in the turns! I even occasionally scraped my exhaust on the right side when I leaned way over in the contour of the road was ascending.... I clamped a metal shield on the exhaust right where it hits with worm drive clamp... So now it will not scrape the pipe itself! I have tons of fun on this buddy 50 .. I ride it only for fun.. it is coming up on one year and I have 6,000 miles on it already.. did all the maintenance myself and drive belt front brakes and the latest I change the rear tire

[@Brianfox52]

Last year I bought a yamaha motorcycle and a 2009 genuine buddy 150 international Saint trope Addition with 1400 miles on it gotta for 2200 out the door and loving every minute of it. Looking to possibly upgrade to the fuel Is injected version

[@jtkrpm1]

The suspension really sucks on my buddy 50. If the 170 has the same suspension I can’t imagine going that fast on one. The front forks seem to bottom out far too easy.

[@morningstar6506]

Bought a new matte black one 3 months ago and I keep forgetting I have a car, it's an excellent ride and one of the few things that I've bought that have exceeded any expectations. If you have or will get the required license for it, it's well worth the extra 1k or so for the 50cc boost

[@roywalls5595]

It ok but I have PIAGGIO MP3 250IE got 003710 miles on it handle roads very good wet & dry!

[@upminer6162]

That inspection shop looks familiar lol

[@Noflexsunny617]

Where do I find the cdi on the 170i buddy

[@pleasedontwatchthese9593]

I heard the service on these are expensive because they require frequent valve jobs. Is that true? Or was that the 125?

[@SiegfriedsMotorwerx]

Most likely the old 150’s. We have one in our shop Now with 25,500 miles on it and it’s never had an adjustment and it runs great

[@glenmo1]

I love my buddy 50 but I can't imagine it with a 170cc motor as it is kind of rough on the bumps I would probably go for a hooligan instead

[@SiegfriedsMotorwerx]

They are pretty equal in ride quality

[@trevbrown19]

So the 170i has a top speed of 55? How would you compare this bike to the Zuma 125? I'm just looking for a bike that can do 60 mph on the back roads until I get into town. I live 20 miles each way I go to get into a town.

[@SiegfriedsMotorwerx]

A 170i has a top speed of 70+ mph. Definitely faster and quicker then a zuma

[@alexanderc3467]

Literally my next scooter.

[@SiegfriedsMotorwerx]

Nice!

[@Kinglegend-nq9dp]

Your videos are awesome

[@SiegfriedsMotorwerx]

Thanks so much

[@qrptedmac]

I know this vid is 3yrs old but the current Genuine website shows the Buddy 170 top speed 55+ vs the Hooligan 170i 60+

[@dominickesteban]

I bought a 170i after watching this, and I couldn't be happier. Thank you! What mic did you use to record this video?

[@johndefalque5061]

I wonder if a 50cc is going to be big enough but maybe an Smax is going to be too big and haevy, hard to park, storage could be a problem.

[@i8117319]

Taiwan also has this model called myBUBU125 or ibubu125, unfortunately it has stopped production and there is no 170cc

[@m.a.nelson9427]

The mechanical specs, fuel injection, 4 valves, oil cooler, real oil filter, just make it a great value that can last.

[@mig50cc]

If you had a choice between the Buddy 170i and Honda ADV 150, which would you get and why? I'm in the market for scooters in the 150-170cc class and have narrowed down my choices to those due to my location where there are Honda and Genuine scooter dealers nearby. I would use it mainly for city riding with very short highway rides where the limit is 65mph. Any input from those who have ridden either would be greatly appreciated.

[@buffering7612]

If it’s not a sweet used deal don’t get yourself onto a bike with drum brakes it’s not cool 🤦🏻

[@barnabusthomas1010]

this is one of my favorite scooter videos!!! I have watched it several times and enjoy it every time!!!

[@realtalk1278]

Thanks bud! Gonna buy one.🤘🔥🔥🔥

[@SiegfriedsMotorwerx]

Nice!! Did you ever pick one up?

[@jmjiloveu165]

2 review 1st honda helix ...you do a great job Thanks

[@kathryncook7193]

It's kind of a bummer since a lot of our back roads speed limit is 70 lol.

[@jason17179]

I’m not sure if you would be able to help me but on my buddy 170i it starts to lose power at like 70% throttle and I’m not sure why I cleaned the air filter and changed the gas and it’s still happening

[@mikedproducer]

It probably needs a valve adjustment.

[@tomlucas6304]

Just bought a Buddy 125 and I love it. Also have a Vespa ET 150. The biggest difference is I’ve got to go 200 miles to get service on the Vespa. The Buddy is everything I looked for in a scooter but would loved to have had fuel injection. Thanks Siegfried you served me well by selling me my Buddy.

[@SiegfriedsMotorwerx]

I’m glad you enjoy the buddy!

[@glenmones713]

If the Buddy 170 i does 65 mph + why couldn't I take it on the highway? Since the minimal speed limit on the highway at least here in Connecticut is 45 mph ?

[@SiegfriedsMotorwerx]

If your highways are at that speed you’d be plenty okay. Local to us our high ways are 65/70

[@glenmones713]

@@SiegfriedsMotorwerx thanks 👍.. you guys are the greatest I wish I lived closer to you.. up until covid my girlfriend and I used to travel to Lancaster once a year minimum.. love that area of PA..❤️. Hopefully we'll be taking a trip down there within the next year perhaps I'll stop in and check out your scooters

[@SiegfriedsMotorwerx]

@@glenmones713 absolutely feel free to stop by should you be in the area! Thanks for watching us!

[@sunderwonder6366]

11.2 HP, not 14

[@SiegfriedsMotorwerx]

15.67*

[@sunderwonder6366]

​@@SiegfriedsMotorwerxwhere does it come from?

[@sunderwonder6366]

@@SiegfriedsMotorwerx their own website states 11.2 HP

[@pablo69143]

Do you know where the CBI boxes on the genuine buddy 170I just bought one yesterday And I have no spark and trying to locate the CDI died check to see if the cdi is bad

[@ryanodonnell938]

Great review!

[@SiegfriedsMotorwerx]

Thanks! I read an article today about a guy with your same name saving a few people on the PA turnpike!

[@TyeWills]

I'm more of a Lance Cabo 200i guy but i love these powerful little scooters

[@blitzmotorscooters1635]

Yep, both are marvelous

[@SiegfriedsMotorwerx]

How is the Lance holding up?

[@brandonwu8578]

Pgo bubu 125 in taiwan, lol

[@SiegfriedsMotorwerx]

Is it identical to the buddy?

[@brandonwu8578]

@@SiegfriedsMotorwerx better than buddy, I've three, one is the same as American edition, 2 are fuel injection model(ibubu).

[@SiegfriedsMotorwerx]

@@brandonwu8578 nice, what’s the exact model name of them? I’d love to check them out

[@brandonwu8578]

@@SiegfriedsMotorwerx Buddy(=bubu) has been out of market in taiwan for years. Here are some models you might feel interested, j-bubu, tigra,alpha max, bon.....

[@SiegfriedsMotorwerx]

awesome thanks man!

[@glenmo1]

Many times if my legs start feeling cramped I put my legs way up on the top like that and sit way back on the seat..

[@glenmo1]

BTW ..ALL scooter speedometers READ 5 MPH Faster than your actually Traveling ! ..

[@SiegfriedsMotorwerx]

Yes

[@kathryncook7193]

So if it says I'm going 50, I'm actually going 45?

[@glenmones713]

@@kathryncook7193 yes whatever you speedometer says you're actually doing 5 mph or less

[@kennypool]

You should try atkins give your buddy a rest.

[@jakefloyd2866]

You should try to be kind or get your butt kicked!!! JS

[@SiegfriedsMotorwerx]

its just so much red meat