The Best Vaush Media Take Ever Recorded (Not Clickbait) (Real)

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#superman #snydercut

[@eman22017]

Vaush saying he wants Superman to be a Boy Scout is something I agree with. The whole thing that makes Superman interesting is that even though he has all this power, he chooses to focus on the little things and not using that power to hurt others unless absolutely necessary.

[@michaelraymon111]

You don't read comics.

[@BL0XB0T]

@@michaelraymon111 WDYM?

[@michaelraymon111]

​@@BL0XB0T exactly that

[@monodoro]

@@michaelraymon111 ​Commenter is 100% correct, the appeal of Superman is the dichotomy between his godlike power yet humble character. It’s not just that he’s a normal guy, he’s a remarkably considerate and kind person even when he’s not acting as Superman. (Lois sees him as a pushover when Clark but a Heracles when Superman even though he’s the same person) in other words, a bit of a Boy Scout.

[@BL0XB0T]

@@michaelraymon111 How can you tell they don’t read comics?

[@creecher1118]

I describe my perfect Superman film as feeling kinda like a Studio Ghibli vibe. I don't want there to be a big threat, I don't want the traditional superhero formula, I just want him to meander for 2 hours doing good. Talking people off ledges, saving cats from trees, offering aid in areas experiencing natural disasters, etc.

[@caflagel]

Man, that would be refreshing as hell, and that’s exactly why they won’t do it.😢

[@davidv4018]

I said the same for Spiderman when Sony was making Homecoming. But, the big budget movie format makes it difficult.

[@andrewgreenwood9068]

Maybe even have a supervillain but sho superman helping even as they fight. Oh Lex it trying to kill me but there is a plane going down in the Pacific so he can wait his turn.

[@creecher1118]

@Andrew Greenwood Yeah exactly, any super villain involvement I'd want to see resolved in minutes. Like it's just another day for Supes.

[@williamholtzclaw3029]

Basically just the 2nd act of the first superman movie, watching him fly around metropolis and just being superman puts such a big smile on my face everytime I see it

[@Ray-wz8sg]

I remember years ago watching a video by a trans man about the masculinity crisis and he cited Superman as the ideal masculine role model since he doesn't rely on aggression or superiority to be masculine, he's a caring guy who uses his strength to protect others, isn't afraid to show emotion, and is still extremely masculine and inspiring. I want THAT Superman back

[@overlookers]

Rorschach = The Question Nite-Owl = Blue Beetle Silk Spectre = Nightshade The Comedian = Peacemaker Ozymandias = Thunderbolt Dr. Manhattan = Captain Atom This would've been the cast of Watchmen if Alan Moore got clearance to use characters from DC's then-recently acquired competitor, Charlton Comics.

[@ProfessorBalth]

I'm glad he didn't cause Ozymandias is a sick fucking name for a villain.

[@ValeGreenHeart]

@@ProfessorBalth it's also one of the best episodes of television

[@procrastinator99]

@@ValeGreenHeart It's also a really good poem.

[@ValeGreenHeart]

@@procrastinator99 that also

[@MomsterGirl]

Vaush, from my heart of hearts, I mean this: We NEED more Justice League/Unlimited media discussion from you. That show was so incredibly good and your analysis of it just brings out the best from it. Thank you for a good discussion! A quick note on the Superman vs Captain Marvel episode: at the very end Lex Luthor is seen popping champagne with Amanda Waller (a powerful agent of the US government), celebrating the ruination of Superman's public image. At the end of it all, the damage is done because two people (Supes and Marvel) who are both *good* were made to fight each other in a way that ultimately just served the evil billionaire and the US gov.

[@C.G.Jr.]

I have a feeling the James Gunn Superman won't disappoint in this regard. There's also the new Adult Swim Superman series that I feel will also be returning to the more genuine, heartfelt, hopeful, and Chadly King that is Supermah.

[@user-io9hj9ip2d]

i find it so strange that the show made it to Adult Swim of all places, i was under the impression it was going to be a fun light hearted show so it landing on Adult Swim is so weird. I'm excited to see a fun Superman show though so i will be watching.

[@C.G.Jr.]

@@user-io9hj9ip2d @c Me too! Adult Swim is honestly quite a pleasant surprise at that! Makes me wonder what type of tones and themes they'll work with on that network. My current guess is that we may get something like the coming of age side of Invincible, or maybe something like Perks of Being a Wallflower but with Superman lol I don't know but regardless I am pretty hopeful for this new age of Superman.

[@daryno9048]

Small correction, Lex actually did explain to superman what was in the lead but superman refuse to believe him. Beside that, I agree with Vaush, i also really hate it when they do the whole “if Lois is killed, superman go evil” route. At that point, it just make superman a tickling time bomb and not a hero

[@michaelraymon111]

Read comics

[@michaelraymon111]

Read comics.

[@TurningDrop]

@@michaelraymon111 I don't think you read comics.

[@nicholaswhitman4620]

​​@@TurningDropthat guy literally read injustice one time and thinks he knows superman

[@daryno9048]

@@michaelraymon111 I do and in most superman stories, he is a beacon of hope and someone that people should aspire to be but because of Injustice, people act like if Lois is kill he will turn evil

[@AVClarke]

Superman: The Animated Series remains the best iteration of the character. Clark is simply a good man who wants to help people with his extraordinary powers. He isn't a "savior" figure. He does not seek out adulation or "followers", he wants humanity to be better, but he tries to show it through example, not by proselytizing to them.

[@Jordanmode]

I gave this take on Twitter and was shouted down so hard by Snyder fans. Thing is, I actually liked the Snyder Superman, he’s just not what I *want* from Superman. He should be the big blue boy scout. Seeing him as a conflicted, dour loner was an interesting take, and Cavill was a good Superman, but he was far from my ideal Superman. The Bruce Timm DCAU had the best interpretation of all the characters in a tv/movie media that has existed so far. Young Justice was dope too. And, yes, JLU’s first episode has Batman forcibly recruiting a self-described “lefty” with the specific intent that he be there to keep an eye on them and keep them honest.

[@trianglemoebius]

I'd argue that the "darker superman" take was good when it was starting, but by the time of Snyder the "superheros... but edgy" was already so overdone as to ruin that. Granted, it can still be done *well*, but only by adding some new layer of interest to it (eg, Invincible). Just going, as I said before, "Superheroes... but edgy" and nothing on top of that is basically just "every superhero movie" at this point.

[@midwesternpolymath]

They made Clark Kent - A journalist - blindly trusting of the government.

[@VeryDryBones]

I agree with this take so hard. Superman is at his best when he's a shining beacon of Hope spreading joy and optimism.

[@michaelraymon111]

You don't read comics.

[@VeryDryBones]

​​​@@michaelraymon111 dude I see you posting on everybody's thing saying the same. You are the definition of a loser. Go outside and touch some grass. I don't need to explain myself to a b*tch like you

[@TimothyCHenderson]

@@michaelraymon111 Who care's about the comics, just make a good movie.

[@michaelraymon111]

@@TimothyCHenderson You deserve to only watch garbage movies then lol. Pray for it actually.

[@michaelraymon111]

@@TimothyCHenderson @TimothyCHenderson You deserve to only watch garbage movies then lol. Pray for it actually.

[@nielsjensen4185]

The thing about Superman feeling "wrong" in JLU is that it's intentional as it's meant to show the audience that he has lost his way as his behaviour continues to escalate until he finally realises that he's becoming Lord Superman from the Justice Lords. The best Superman and will always be Superman from "Whatever Happened to Truth, Justice, and the American Way?" which was later adapted into Superman vs the Elite as it shows that Superman is the boy scout by choice to inspire people to dream and when he goes all-out he shows that in how people come to fear him. The best line in "Superman vs the Elite" was the reply to, "Is that...Superman?" "Not anymore." And that's such a powerful reply that encapsulates that Superman is a symbol instead of a man and that he is it by choice because he knows that people need it, which is so good. I really wish any live-action adaptation would lean into this, instead of, the Schnyder Superman that missed the mark by a lightyear, give or take a few astronomical units.

[@Tacom4ster]

Overly Sarcastic Production have great essays on how Supes can be written well without resorting to forced cynicism.

[@FeebleAntelope]

I forgot who made the argument, but someone compared Captain America and Superman in the sense that they're both boy scouts, in the context of Marvel getting that dead on with Cap, while DC has fumbled because they handed the keys to the DCEU over to a guy who's vision of Superman was cynical and randian, advised by his parents to maybe not save people and to only do right if he felt like it. Ma Kent even offers the very selfish advice: "You don't owe this world a thing," as if Clark did not grow up in the community around him and benefit from it.

[@MDoorpsy]

The Justice League cartoon's version of evil Superman is utterly brilliant. How do you get Superman to abandon his faith in the inherent goodness of humanity? Have them choose Lex Luthor, the man who in that reality killed the Flash, as their leader. It's the same reason why, in JL season 2, he is fine with letting Apokolyps get assimilated by Brainiac and allowing all the civilians of that planet to die. Because during the Superman finale, when Darkseid was defeated and the citizens of Apokolyps had freedom in their grasp... they chose tyranny. They chose to heal Darkseid, rather than fight for their own freedom. That was what it took to convince Superman they were a lost cause.

[@mracula1667]

James Gunn gets comics in a way Zack Snyder doesn’t. I’m looking forward to it.

[@michaelraymon111]

You don't read comics

[@michaelraymon111]

You don't read comics.

[@daraghokane4236]

@@michaelraymon111 zack snyder admits he doenst get comics he likes specitical over story.

[@michaelraymon111]

@Daragh O'kane What does that even mean. What does "get comics" even mean? Why are you talking about them as if they are a monolith.

[@michaelraymon111]

@Daragh O'kane What does that even mean. What does "get comics" even mean? Why are you talking about them as if they are a monolith.

[@christressler3857]

Huntress pulls the Question's mask off at one point, so it's not his actual face

[@what3778]

the interesting thing about the justice lords, is based off the fact that LEX became the President and caused the death of Wally (flash). Flash is considered the anchor for alot of empathy in this universe. So the critique of Superman's actions are unique because its separate from the in-show characters and us as the audience

[@dragonicdoom3772]

This is why I think Lex is the perfect nemesis for Superman. He represents a problem Superman can't punch: systemic issues. In the Justice Lords episode Lex even points this out: Superman is his greatest accomplice because he never kills Lex which means Lex is able to use his wealth and the corrupt justice system to get out of jail each and every time. JLU Season 1 does a great job of highlighting how Superman's morals and heroism can be used against him. He is so focussed on punching villains and saving people that he struggles with tackling the systemic issues that cause many of the crises that he stops. His stubbornness and steadfast moral code makes it nearly impossible for him to look at the big picture if it takes his attention away from helping people in the moment.

[@alucardvekkia3966]

Superman has to be a positive chad; a good hearted dude who's the living embodiment of masculinity on every level, yet that has never gone to his head, he just wants to uplift everyone

[@trianglemoebius]

Honestly, I don't mind when they portray Superman as having the power go to his head, they just have to do it RIGHT. The people making these don't seem to realise that power going to one's isn't always just "they turn into fascists", and there are various ways it can go. The example Vaush gave, with Superman vs. Shazam, was power going to Superman's head. Just not in a way that resulted in him changing his primary colour to a more edge shade then choosing reactionaryism and genocide.

[@ronokoftherainlords4184]

You should watch the movie: Superman vs. The Elite It's my favorite superhero movie, and I can't recommend it more.

[@michaelraymon111]

Read the original comic.

[@ProfessorBalth]

@@michaelraymon111 The movie and the comic are written by the same guy. The movie serves as an extended more fleshed out version of the comic.

[@gengarvenom1180]

I'm sorry I meant "Shazam" let me pull up a picture. * Pulls up a picture that calls him Captain Marvel *

[@michaelraymon111]

You have never read a comic of his.

[@gengarvenom1180]

@@michaelraymon111 No, I haven't read Vaush's comics.

[@michaelraymon111]

@@gengarvenom1180 of shazam dummy

[@michaelraymon111]

@GengarVenom of shazam dummy

[@ProfessorBalth]

@@michaelraymon111 He was known as Captain Marvel for years. His name was changed to avoid legal battles.

[@OneAutumnLeaf420]

I loved Henry Cavill as Superman but the perfect representation of Superman is All-Star Superman.

[@eman22017]

Henry Cavill looked like Superman but then act anything like him.

[@michaelraymon111]

You don't read comics.

[@ProfessorBalth]

@@michaelraymon111 All-Star Superman is a Comic book.

[@michaelraymon111]

@@ProfessorBalth We all know 99 percent of people cite the cartoon

[@aTron0018]

@@michaelraymon111 Dude, get a life. You can just say, "I don't agree with your interpretation" and move on. You don't add anything to the conversation except trying to shit on people because they don't spend all their lives reading comic books 24/7 like you do apparently. Calm down and be a better human.

[@neidhardt8093]

More people need to watch Superman and Lois the TV series.

[@michaelraymon111]

No people should read superman comics.

[@AltoSnow]

@@michaelraymon111 People should do both

[@AltoSnow]

@Miguel Garay Agreed. And if Bitsie doesn't receive an award for her performance in 3x02 I will have lost faith in humanity. That entire episode, man!

[@michaelraymon111]

@@AltoSnow @Angele Pocock as if any of these dumbasses would say read comics lmao.

[@michaelraymon111]

@@AltoSnow @Angele Pocock as if any of these dumbasses would say read comics lmao.

[@nohbuddy1]

Lex was also doing all that to deliberately fuck with Superman

[@tortugadave8765]

12:50 yeah Chicago is pretty pedestrian friendly to a certain point. If you live on the northside everything is accessible through bike ways, busses and trains. On the southside and west side certain areas get a bit tricky but still decent overall, just pricier due to some of them not being under CTA (Chicago transit authority). New York is the only other city I've been to that has a better transit system, mainly cuz they're usually on time and not delayed.

[@williamballiard3359]

Superman fundamentally doesn't work if the writer thinks of his boy-scoutishness as a problem to overcome, instead of an asset to be utilized. The Marvel film makers understood this about Captain America; that he's not a 'cool' character, he's a boy scout -- he's lame. The way to make him work is to embrace his inherent lameness and use it as a source of comedy and drama. They also understood this in Superman the Movie (1978), in which the main obstacle for Superman to overcome was the cynicism of the world around him, and making people believe in him who are predisposed to think that he's too good to be true. Zack Snyder's Superman sucked because he thinks comics peaked in the 90's. He shouldn't be making DCEU movies; he should be adapting Spawn, or Witchblade, or directing the Venom movies.

[@skybite]

There are Batman fans who want to turn Superman into Homelander.

[@ronathan7212]

I love the dichotomy of Superman and Batman. A god with the personality of a man compared to a man with the personality of a god.

[@nohbuddy1]

Everyone should watch the Superman Animated Series episode called The Late Mr Kent. Such a good episode.

[@michaelraymon111]

Enough with the cartoon crap

[@varelmarais2222]

I already thought Vaush was super attractive, but now he's also into the same superhero kids cartoon I grew up with? Good God

[@EdwardSkihands]

Wasn't it Smallville where 30-45 year olds played underage teenager characters and then joined sexcult? Brilliant.

[@evieTVv]

this is the best media take vaush has ever had.

[@lexslate2476]

I like Superman better when he's a good guy. Like, when he's got a rock-solid moral compass, sees the best in people, gives second chances even when he probably shouldn't, but he can get away with it because he's basically invulnerable.

[@Tacom4ster]

I met George Neubren (Justice League and my personal fav Supes) at a con, nice guy

[@Matthew_Murray]

Vaush coming in with an objectively correct media take, now I’ve seen everything

[@NotAFakeName1]

dwayne mcduffie was honestly really cool Man was working at marvel in the 80s and wrote a pitch idea about a brand new team composed of african american youths that all have the superpower of being really good at riding a skateboard just to make fun of their editor for their race issues Then he made static and icon who are both some of the best examples of political superheroes and really good black representation in comics

[@BL0XB0T]

There’s already so many different takes on deconstructed Superman. Give me some corny, old-fashioned “Truth, Justice, and The American Way”. Yes, I do know that phrase is contentious for lefties, but it’s what comes to mind when I think of Boy Scout Supes.

[@BL0XB0T]

@Miguel Garay Huh, I didn’t know that. I like it, but “American Way” rolls off the tongue better.

[@curvingfyre6810]

We see some of this in the dark knight returns, where superman has been essentially reduced to a dog of the state. An ICBM with a pulse.

[@LizzyVonBloom]

I cannot express how some failed animator nepo baby proclaiming “The majority of superhero media is crap” makes me want to become a capitalist out of pure spite

[@TheFuriousMulatto]

I like how chat gaslit Vaush into thinking he had the character's name wrong. Captain Marvel the character's name. Shazam is the name of the wizard that gives Billy the power to transform, which is why he shouts Shazam to become Captain Marvel. It's basically like a Cleric or Warlock yelling to their deity of choice for power.

[@ProfessorBalth]

@Miguel Garay I thought it was just to avoid potential suits? Cause he was known as Captain Marvel basically up until the New 52 reboot. Which would make sense due to Marvel Captain Marvel really only gaining some spotlighting around then.

[@ProfessorBalth]

Wait no yeah Marvel never sued DC, DC sued Fawcett though cause Captain Marvel was a superman clone. Marvel just made their Captain Marvel and was able to trademark the name cause after the lawsuit nobody was using the name.

[@Junebug89]

It's not gaslighting, he is called Shazam now. He was renamed in the new 52. edit: But to be fair, he was called Captain Marvel in JLU.

[@Maxisamo1]

​@@miguelgaray4276I wouldn't say "decades" as they had him called Captain Marvel as late as DC vs MK, but it's close

[@fooliecoolie5284]

Saying,The best vash media take, is like saying the best turd you ever had run down your leg.😂😂😂

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

I never saw DCEU Superman as edgy though. Most of the time he just seemed sad? Almost dark and brooding, Batman-like, but never edgy really. Maybe when he went ham on Steppenwolfe? but that guy was going to blow up the world. Killing Everyone. If you could wreck Space-Himmler, would you not? Also, the Black Superman Suit came from the Comics first.

[@Theyungcity23]

They definitely give a shout out to the objectivist theory with The Question. His whole insistence that Superman cant be trusted because be he went bad in one universe is explained through objectivist theory. He says that everything has a truth to its existence that is consistent no matter where it is, that "a is a" (he literally says a is a)

[@MrSmile078]

People forget that Superman was quite a based and political character in his early years, he fought corrupt businessmen, politicians, cruel prison guards, before "truth, justice and the American way" and becoming a symbol of American power, Superman title was "the champion of the oppressed", literally invented for two Jewish immigrants as a coping mechanism a man powerful enough to write all the wrongs they saw in the world

[@auto117666]

First great media take by Vaush.

[@zillafire101]

Uh oh. Vaush and media takes

[@garywebb2432]

calm down...the video just dropped and it's been like 5 secs watch it 1st then give your "vaush bad" take

[@zillafire101]

@@garywebb2432 I know. Just had to poke fun

[@garywebb2432]

@@zillafire101 nice

[@zillafire101]

​@@garywebb2432 Now that I've seen it, no memes, he does cover it well in my opinion

[@garywebb2432]

@@zillafire101 vaush rad

[@SmkAslt]

Honestly, from my point of view, everything you said is why I think superman is the worst, most boring character ever written. He's this infallible, invulnerable, impenetrable, and undefeatable. Having a perfect person with unlimited power in every way with no equal.....is boring as fuck. It's the reason why spiderman is one of the best superheroes. He fails and makes mistakes. He chooses wrong, he loses people and himself.

[@Delicious_Oreoz]

Original Superman theme remixed would be so fire 😩👌👌

[@winterfreas7504]

Superman's depth comes from being the strongest but the gentlest, he can take over everything but he doesn't he is the indomitable human spirit, I dont know why they keep trying to make him some walking the tightrope, the evil superman trend is so over done :/

[@ProfessorBalth]

There's only one good "Evil Superman" story and it's Superman vs The Elite, the original comic is also really good but the movie is more fleshed out. It's essentially a statement on why Evil/Ruthless Superman is fucking terrifying.

[@wumbojet]

I genuinely think that Vaush doesn't really have that many bad media takes, at least when it comes to tv series, he just hyper focuses in some weird details of some things and it colores his takes in a way he didn't intend

[@Just_Ty465]

i think what one of the best things Gunn could do is give us a superman that is Clark Kent first, a superman that actually feels like he grew up with and around loving people on earth. Superman’s biggest appeal is that he’s probably the most human DC character

[@Joenah5]

Rare good Vaush media take

[@robinpage2730]

I want a show about the villains, where the villains are actually 3D people. One is trying to go straight but the heroes won't give him a break. Some are revolutionaries trying to fight injustice and corruption but those governments are dominated by the countries of the heroes. Some are just broken, and want to watch the world burn because it took everything from them.

[@vger9186]

The new nic cage Superman trailer looks awesome. It’s a fan film but heard it’s got Tim burton looking back at it as it’s his original project.

[@mick16wtf]

Justice League animated is insanely good. For the man who has everything is not only great but even Alan Moore approved. DCAU was the shit.

[@TeasGuideToThePlanes]

Such a wild video, completely out of the blue, that I 100% agree with

[@Kman20025]

As the biggest Superman/ comic book fan that I know, my hopes of him salvaging this thing are greatly diminished due to him starting off as Superman year 1 or year 0 again. Superman origin stories have been done to depth. You want to reboot him? OK, fine, but why not as an older veteran adult. These filmmakers know he has a teenage son who he is training to take his place in the comics right? Superman as a family man as so much fresh potential than year one newb Supes that we've seen for the hundredth time

[@silentgyoza7832]

Season 2 of Unlimited is such a masterpiece

[@garywebb2432]

he did great with unknown C lost Guardians of The Galaxy characters he'll be fine now

[@michaelraymon111]

Crap

[@michaelraymon111]

Crap

[@garywebb2432]

@@michaelraymon111 how

[@michaelraymon111]

@@garywebb2432 Exactly that

[@andrewjones162]

Even when Superman is wrong in JLU I can’t help but side with him. Lex is shady as hell

[@randykrus9562]

What they need to do is make Superman a boy scout....AND......give him a personality. Make him someone you can joke around with, have a beer with....relate to.....

[@demgphix]

I'm just now learning Vaush even likes DC.

[@omechron]

Dwayne McDuffie was a based god. When he died, the average IQ of the planet dropped by an entire point.

[@JohnQ5]

Glad tosee Vaush's taste in DC is quality. Wonder what his thoughts would be on Blue Beatle (Ted Kord) and Booster Gold.

[@aurizzistic]

How I know I'm autistic: in the beginning I literally thought he wanted Superman to be in a boyscout troupe.

[@Kotosanji]

From what I remember, Lex was sussy about it because he wanted superman to act up and destroy his super free orphan land

[@Maxisamo1]

What I love about The Question is he's like, 20% right at the end of the day

[@v5vendeta]

Vaush needs to check out Superman and Lois. Best live action depiction since Christopher Reeve.

[@Joseph-sg3jz]

Tom Welling? Smallville?

[@Josh-dm7cu]

Justice league season one Superman isn’t really my favorite iteration of Superman but that’s a Superman that has seen and been through everything that happened in the animated series like being taken over and the crossovers with Batman.

[@isaganipalanca8803]

Christopher Reeve and Tom Welling (as proto-Superboy) came closest to this ideal! Yes! Superman IS a Boy Scoutt! Brandon Routh was meh and Tyler Hoechlin, though very good acting the part in Superman and Lois (though Bitsy Tulloch, Erica Durance and Margot Kidder are the Holy Trinity of Lois Lanes!) looks too different from the comics version. Cavill's looks were perfect, but Zack Snyder made him too dark. A shame he does not get to play a brighter, more lovable Superman as Cavill had hoped. Unfortunately, there is no guarantee that Gunn will be able to save the DCU. Nonetheless, I hope he gets Austin Butler, David Corenswet or Jacob Eordi and NOT Logan Lerman or miles Tel.ler (who so do not look the partt - like Nicholas Cage!) to play his Superman. better yet, an unknown like Reeves and Welling who made the role their own.

[@s7robin105]

Rare good media take from Vaush

[@blazingmonolith4323]

Impossible

[@FuzzyImages]

I love how all this is Vaush being given misinformation about hero lore XD

[@righteousrawb7225]

I respect Vaush now

[@daraghokane4236]

Superman vs the elite is the best idea for a superman movie. Manchester black is what zack and people think superman should be aggressively decisive does what needs to be done vs superman who's kind unsure asks not can I help but should I

[@TheNordicHermit]

Wonder woman 1984 was a dumpster fire but that mall scene is how I want DC movies to be.

[@Theyungcity23]

Gunn works when the character is pretty much a blank slate and the audience isn't expecting him to stay true to the character. And I hate all this talk of him loving the comics. If he actually gave af about the comics he would bring on those writers and artists to work on the projects and give them their due credit.

[@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770]

I’d kind of wanna bring back the Jerry Siegel Superman. Make him the champion of the oppressed again.

[@VooshSpokesman]

Love from a Xanderhal and Shark3ozero fan!

[@theoraexplora]

Captain Marvel is SHAZAM now. you got the name right

[@Sol1496]

The Question is a Rorschach parody. Watchmen came out like 20 years before the Question debuted.

[@Cam-bk8rt]

Finally, a good Vaush media take

[@hous2tim964]

In my opinion, Superman must see an intelligent and vicious opponent who will harm him. In the 1978 Superman film, Luthor was an interesting opponent even if in my opinion a little too caricatured. In the Smalville series, members of the Luthor family were interesting adversaries. So I think we need an intelligent opponent who will know how to trap Superman. And the Kryptonite blow that weakens him I find that a bit stupid. Why wouldn't he be allergic to an earthly element for example? Something rare but very present on earth and which would be poison for him. And then why doesn't Superman use Kyryptonian technology to help humanity? Help it to pollute less, for example. I think there are a lot of things to do with this character but it takes talent, ambition and imagination to highlight him.

[@SolracDude]

Watch Young Justice please, I love that show soo much and I really want a 5th season

[@michaelraymon111]

No don't watch it please. Read the comics.

[@SolracDude]

@@michaelraymon111 alternatively, both?

[@ProfessorBalth]

@@SolracDude That guys insane and been schizoposting all over the comments.

[@Junebug89]

@@michaelraymon111 Have you tried not spamming the same single, trite, unhelpful reply under every comment on the video?

[@michaelraymon111]

@@SolracDude read the comics

[@PropheticShadeZ]

I would like Superman to be manipulated by his expectations of society and authority to be good.

[@Maxisamo1]

Superman is always best as a Lawful Good character with the least amount of justification for fucking up due to his abilities

[@mewowzers]

4:40 whatt when did that happen 😭

[@lordrex71]

Vaush’s take is wrong. In the episode Luther has Shazam fooled, when Superman digs his way down to the box, it is a bomb timer- later Bat Man confirms it was a set up to make Superman look bad the whole time

[@joe2k20]

I don't even like the the Christopher reeves ones too. Animated superman is better. Still waiting for a live action movie superman to be done right.

[@laflux]

His take on Superman is excellent but I stopped short on liking the video and saying its a good media take because then he confidently said most Graphic Novel and Grpajic Novel spin offs are crap and he's watched a great deal of them. Vaush obviously has a strong liking and memory of DCAU lore but they are so beloved that that hardly makes him an expert.

[@tylerhackner9731]

We shall see

[@androgenius_alisa]

He prob can do a watchable movie, but I have doubts. Superhero movies only work when people are fun, quirky and hate Marvel

[@bulletsandbracelets4140]

The fact that they are bringing in writers who actually enjoy the characters for the new attempt has me optimistic! But absolutely, best superman is boyscout Clark Kent. Unapologetically my favorite take on the char is still Smallville lol. Judgemental, kinda a little shit at times, but genuinely trying to do good.

[@tripp4130]

I saw the thumbnail with Nicholas Cage 😂 I always joke about ruining Superman by casting Cage.

[@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan]

That movie was cancelled

[@rufiohaspan]

Shazam used to be captain marvel

[@timeisup3094]

Didn’t Lex admit to Question that he did all of that to “Tick Superman off?” Wouldn’t that make Superman’s instincts correct?

[@Junebug89]

Well... I don't think you could say it is "correct" when he did exactly what Luthor wanted him to.

[@blublubblub]

Ok now I need to watch Justice League Unlimited Season 1. Yeah Clark going full villain because Lois dies is Snyder treating the audience like r***ards. Yeah fallible people do that, but most people wouldn't bring the world to its knees over it, and Clark is supposed to be better than that, a boy scout, like Vaush says, not a jealous biblical God, or a Greek asshole Deity. Goddamnit Snyder.

[@h0twingzz]

holy shit guys. i found it. a good vaush media take 😲

[@elloingo]

Whilst I love Teen Titans Young Justice has aged kinda better for adult rewatch value

[@dragunov815]

Woah.