The BEST Warrior Raid Guide for Dual Wield and 2H DPS - BiS Gear, Talents, Runes, Rotations, etc

[@noccguy]

I think Crix may have misspoken or not correctly explained the off hand hit chance piece here. When you have heroic strike queued, it removes the increased offhand miss penalty, but you still suffer from the normal 8% miss chance. So at 60 when you are soft hit capped at 9%, when you have a heroic strike queued, your off hand will never miss. However at 25 since we currently cannot achieve the soft hit cap with the current available gear, your offhand hits certainly can miss even with heroic strike queued up.

[@CrixGuides]

Thank you Nocc. I was trying so hard to figure out the OH penalty. I'll pin this for reference and so others can see it. Happy New Year

[@noccguy]

@@CrixGuides You as well! Well made video none the less! :)

[@CrixGuides]

Really appreciate that! @@noccguy

[@yyparis]

Do you think this makes Heroic Strike Queuing, at 25, not worth it?

[@noccguy]

@@yyparis Heroic Strike queuing is worth it in situations where you are unbuffed or solo in open world content. In raid environments with world buffs or wild strikes, you will typically generate enough rage to leave heroic strike queued on your swings and to let it go through.

[@Sindragozer]

As a lock main thats now leveling a warrior, i love this. ty Crix

[@serius6]

Sameee, enjoying the leveling experience

[@CrixGuides]

Im glad you like it. It's fun af man

[@basmong]

Have warlock and warrior 300+ gs. Warrior do way more damage in raid. But wanna tell you that for warrior harder to kill lvl 29 normal mob, than for warlock to kill lvl 29 elite mob in RFK ^_^

[@CrixGuides]

LMK if I missed something. Links to everything is in the description. Happy New Year.

[@valterfurtado2825]

Man, so many guides in KZbin, you're the only one that make it straight and clean! Thanks a lot! Could u consider make an Warrior Tank vid? Great job!

[@CrixGuides]

I really appreciate that. Glad it helps! Honestly tho, I don't have a passion for Warrior tanking, so I don't think I'd make one my friend.

[@dillonw.2297]

Crix videos are always the most detailed and give such good insight to what I’m trying to learn more about.

[@CrixGuides]

I really appreciate that and glad they help!

[@eSSentialplaysYT]

Excellent and concise overview of the Warrior in current Season of Discovery, nice work! 7:28 In regards to Improved Cleave, the bonus damage on a Level 20 Cleave, is 5. It does not increase the weapon damage portion of Cleave. If you have 3/3 Improved Cleave talents, it increases the 5 bonus damage to 11. Calculated as follows: 5 + (5 x 1.2) = 5 + (6) = 11 It's a marginal improvement at best and requires too many talents points to get to, that could be better spent elsewhere in my opinion.

[@MrFluffytheTurtle]

As a Priest that's never properly leveled a warrior past the early 30s. Nor a warlock out of a starter zone, I've just always loved your guide videos. They feel just like those guides Kargoz made when classic was on the way. There's something just as/if not more cozy about yours. Not to mention that they're always no-nonsense, informative and generally really well done. Thank you as always, happy doggone new year!

[@CrixGuides]

i really appreciate that. Kargoz has always been a good friend of mine and an inspiration. I'm glad you like them

[@MrFluffytheTurtle]

@@CrixGuides "Schlounce w the ounce!"

[@n0zeee]

Good video for some1 who doesn't play warrior. Our warriors are so ass that I must know why that is. Now I have a better understanding.

[@RomanNikolaiev]

Can you add something specific? As a nooby warrior I’m quite interested in a constructive feedback, cause to me everything here makes sense. And if it doesn’t, it would be great to understand why.

[@Randomnamegoeshere]

I think he ment that the video was great for him, because he doesn't play warrior and he wanted to learn why his warrior friends are doing poorly. @@RomanNikolaiev

[@CrixGuides]

Appreciate that. I put a lot of effort into it and a ton of research. Been so much fun playing Warrior lately.

[@maraluptacik]

It just might be the best guide in the whole sod across all classes

[@CrixGuides]

Appreciate that!

[@MsHybridBlue]

I've been waiting for a guide like this for days. Awesome video!

[@CrixGuides]

Glad I could help!

[@Randomnamegoeshere]

16:14 With the caveat that it might be slightly different at lvl 25 in terms of crit/hit/rage gain and the SoD version of Deep Wounds, I would not say HS queuing is very important. For many people it's probably even detrimental to their overall dmg. As per Fight Club sims at lvl 60(Era), if you play it perfectly, it sims to be less than a 1% dps gain unbuffed. With world buffs at 60 where rage is not an issue, it sims less than 0.1%(!) gain with perfect play. If you screw it up just once by accidentally cancelling a HS/Cleave that you weren't supposed to, or screw up some other part of your gameplay cause you were focusing on HS queueing, you're already at a loss.

[@Graahk-r8u]

HS queue will roll new warriors in SoD (speaking from experience) as they will dump rage and won’t keep up enrage from CBR. Also in p1 raid bosses are only 2 levels higher, instead of 3- so it’s even less impactful.

[@H1LTO]

This was great ty. Came back to ot today as first BFD on Warrior.

[@CrixGuides]

No problem. Glad it helped!

[@pinesyeet]

Thanks for the nice video. Just getting into HS queue, and I find it overwhelming when simulatously juggling the rage and other abilities. Will get it down in time though.

[@TheStronggeek]

everything i needed right now, ready to pump TY :D

[@johngone1nonly]

Improved Heroic also lowers rage of Quick Strike. Huge

[@shadblayder]

great video, precise, concise, with the sixty upgrade links, I wish I had this before it's beautiful

[@CrixGuides]

Thank you! I really appreciate that

[@Fros3nx]

Not usually comment on videos, but Crix, you are the man ! Happy new years!

[@CrixGuides]

Thanks! HAPPY NEW YEAR!

[@satoshimoshi946]

Good vibes, good info, chill person. You got a sub from me 😅🎉

[@CrixGuides]

Really appreciate that!

[@jattmonsoongaming]

Hi great vid. Just want to mention that your heroic strike macro should have the /startattack come AFTER the /cast Heroic Strike, not before, because if you have it before, then if your auto attack is ready when you press it, it will do the auto attack first, then HS on your next melee swing. Same with cleave macro obviously.

[@munchies3469]

thanks Crix!

[@arthurchen5253]

Really great video in detail. There is only one thing I am not sure in dual wield rotation, I found out that heroic strike contributes to first or second largest portion of dmg accroding to the dual wielders' records on wcl website. Maybe it is the major skills u want to spam once u trigger consumed by rage buffs. Also the attack empowered by heroic strike will not generate rage so it is also a good skills to dump rage. Hamstring is kinda suck as it deals only 5 dmg even thunderclap is a better choice compared to it.

[@hermanjonsson9994]

Hamstring can proc wild strikes, thunder clap cannot. This is why hamstring is used while 80-90 rage if enrage is about to fall off. Heroic strike and hamstring as rage dump if close to 100 rage.

[@thetoot555]

This is mostly speculation I have a belief the parry talent is a better option than the swap stance perk. This is due to warriors now being top dps, and ads potentially pulling aggro. If you’re BIS this will classify you as a tank for the duration of the 1st tier in this season. But furthermore yielding a parry will decrease your swingtime, which earns you more rage. The utility of parry will come in handy if you ever hold threat instead of the much more rare occasion of swapping stances. Furthermore on tank topic there is a variation of high hitting dps to shield users spamming devastation.

[@awesomeness7434]

I love dual wield just hit a 1076 deep wounds tick today that was wild

[@Taziod]

Great video

[@CrixGuides]

Thank you!

[@Chickentorchic]

You said fightclub posted something regarding SOD. But I camt find anything about this on the fightclub disc? Do you have an invite link?

[@xXTheMustXx]

hope they dont nerf it, rather buff others

[@dylanmelella5663]

I know it’s unlikely with the classic talents but I would love to be 2h slamming in sod like in tbc 😅

[@Xilitor]

Thanks for the great guide! :D I do have one noob question though. When I use 2H and watch runs on youtube ppl get rage really quickly .. like 20 rage per hit with their 2H.. I only get around 10 rage per hit with my 2H... what can I do to get rage more quickly when I am warrior dps? Maybe I am wrong? :D

[@CrixGuides]

I'm not sure. They could possibly have a stronger weapon, making them deal more damage, thus gaining more threat. They could be critting or using Endless Rage rune possibly, which gives more rage on your abilities

[@ChrisWilliams-i2w]

What addons are you using to have the raids party bars in the top left? And for the gear?

[@twhitworth0289]

Watched your UI video. Does your war have a different ELV profile than your lock/mage or is it the same and you just changed it up a bit for the war? Would love to copy this!

[@CrixGuides]

Same. I prob just have the top actionbar hidden via mouse over. I explain in the Ui vid how to do that if you want

[@gudlaugurrobertsson7623]

concerning the hit for the offhand, back in old classic I think when you que'd up heroic strike and while it was que'd your offhand never misses, im not sure if it works like that now. so at the end game when you were super geared you had heroic strike que'd up all the time so then the offhand never misses , then due to that you only needed the 7% hit rating for the main hand, (1%chance to miss in classic so cant get 8% hit) anyway im not sure if this is the case now in SOD

[@beknajmi6029]

Quickstrike benefits from redused heroic strike tallents so they are not useless.

[@BrickPB]

Any tips on getting into raiding? I haven’t played wow since mists of pandaria and to be honest I’m a bit intimidated by the whole thing lol. Like how am I supposed to already have memorized every boss before I do my first raid where everyone else is an expert at it?

[@Snoogadooch]

Im new to warrior. So everything in this rotation is activated in-between swings? Youre trying not to disrupt the regular melee swings right?

[@CrixGuides]

No you can press it all. The only thing that is based off your swing is Heroic Strike

[@Bloodstar14]

Should I be going for Coral Reef Axe or Fathomblade on my Orc Warrior? I currently have both

[@Nextgengrim]

Maybe I missed something but what makes hamstring really good to spam? Is it just for the rage dump and wild strikes proc? Does it have something to do with higher chance to crit on hit?

[@prometheus1839]

I think its because it deals a little amount of damage which allows it to proc things like the druid windfury

[@AirVossOne]

I guess fishing for deep wounds proccs

[@jattmonsoongaming]

Yeah also hamstring can crit, causing deep wounds

[@Tom-wm6jr]

Something about crix talking about warriors in any way let alone making guides for them really rustles my jimmies

[@CrixGuides]

Yeah I've definitely talked a lot of shit on Warriors during TBC/Wotlk. But I've seen the error of my ways and in reformed. Please forgive me

[@CrixGuides]

All memes aside, I do hope you can see that I've out in work for the guide tho. It's not just a bunch of nonsense like most people's videos.

[@Tom-wm6jr]

You convinced me to watch it.. and yeah man you did good with this. I think I'll let your past transgressions lie. Good content bro keep it up.

[@CrixGuides]

@@Tom-wm6jr Hell yeah. Appreciate you. I won't let the Brown boys down

[@sumen32]

what weak auras are u using for bfd is it all dbm :)?

[@j.m.3020]

Is Gusting wind from aku'mai good offhand weapon for warrior?

[@arloj]

Hey mate, what addon are you using for your combat text?

[@CrixGuides]

Hey! It's just a part of my Elvui. There's a UI video I did and I put the import code in the description if you want it

[@jackalford6948]

How is that hit is the number one stat prio but then the bis gear doesn’t include the gear that actually has hit on it? Algae gauntlets instead of void touched and silver sabatons instead of the set boots. Seems fairly contradictory

[@yungebola5524]

because you arent reaching the hit cap anyway, and the fights are so short so it becomes a weigh-up of whether you want more consistent damage (hit rating) or spikier damage (str). you take things like fight length into account for these types of things.

[@PULAG]

I've yet to see a video including this one that explains how to manage Rage. I've never seen my rage over 40. I just use the first moves that become available, usually it's quick strike or heroic strike. I never pool it. No one explains this

[@jattmonsoongaming]

He explains pooling rage in this video where you want to coordinate with your group so you are hitting a trash mob before the boss fight so that you start it with around 70 or so rage so you can quickly get over the 80 threshold for CBR. He also mentions you can use rage pots and blood rage to help make this easier if you aren't able to coordinate that trash mob. Also explains that if you aren't at that 80 threshold, just auto attack up to 80.

[@hifredhifred]

I think it's actually better to put 2 points into Parry vs Tactical Mastery as if you're a true pumper you're really never stance dancing anyway considering Consumed by Rage.

[@dannyvanvalburg8410]

Parry less rage brother are you a real parser?

[@Overdozeme]

@@dannyvanvalburg8410dam that make sense

[@dahut95]

​@@dannyvanvalburg8410That's nonsense. Parrying an attack gives you Parry Haste. Increasing the speed of your next auto hit. Which gives you fat rage.

[@dannyvanvalburg8410]

​@@dahut95brother you dont want any parrys you want to hit the mofo from behind

[@TimeTraveler-hk5xo]

​@@dannyvanvalburg8410what

[@awanen]

My only question right now is how warriors can get up to 15% crit. I get 8.8% crit on my logs with the epic 2H. Maybe the 1 on cruelty over impale is actually the answer here. Thanks for the guide.

[@drunksunited]

The crit is way better than impale atm

[@adamhamilton5935]

Impale is not the move. The crit damage bonus is only to yellow hits like heroic strike or overpower

[@knedl420]

Great

[@brett4862]

What is the weakaura that displays the next ability you should use scrolling from left to right?

[@CrixGuides]

It's an addon called Spell Replay.

[@ThemTwoJays]

thats showing the spells he used, not the next recommended spell i assume

[@willcal2738]

why doesn't my talent tree look like this? why is yours different?

[@afk1sec410]

Is it a bad idea to use a fist off hand? Or just toss a fast dagger instead even if the dps is a bit lower?

[@DeadEater666]

im asking myself the same question

[@ThemTwoJays]

you want a 1.2-1.4 speed OH, doesnt matter what is it, i use the Fist wep from the raid as i didnt get any of the 1.2 speed daggers@@DeadEater666

[@robswonder]

whats the addon or weakaura you're using to track abilities used

[@CrixGuides]

It's an addon called Spell Replay - www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/spellreplay-quickfix/files

[@AviationLifestyle]

I use thunderclap to get below 80 rage as it costs a lot of rage to use. Is that dumb? or is it that ok?

[@Wienerbus]

in group play with feral windfury it would be suboptimal because it cannot trigger windfury. hamstring (for dw), quick strike (for 2hd), or sunder armor (for either) can all proc windfury and have superior damage and/or utility compared to thunderclap. if you're just talking solo play though you can pretty much do whatever you want

[@AviationLifestyle]

@@Wienerbus got it, thanks!

[@ThemTwoJays]

you should never Thunderclap, if using 2h; always use Quick Strike and only QS. If you DW you want to spam hamstring. If ur at 100, you can queue a heroic strike + hamstring just as your main hand swings, that brings you down to 78 rage which is perfect to reset CBR

[@Reyka26]

warri pre bois no bfd gear , 130 dps single on kelris / akumai i cant get higher , i feel like missing a lot. maybe it will get better with the set for hit %

[@noon281]

For rage dumping does rend proc wildstrikes?

[@CrixGuides]

Rend does not proc Wild Strike iirc

[@KnotSavage]

ok but how do i get the raid to leave me a mob and pull the boss when it dies instead of fucking explaining the fight 2 god damn months into the phase

[@CrixGuides]

Damnnn. That I can't help lol. I hate when they do that tho

[@anthonygalarza993]

Anyone have good WA for BFD? I'm specifically looking for a gelihast timer on phase changes to time precasts better...

[@ocelotchimes2203]

Did you sayh heroic strike doesnt proc wild strikes? :O

[@willcal2738]

rumsey does nopthing now though?

[@majesticfool]

still only getting 60-70 parses as a DW following this. Not sure what im doing wrong. maintaining rage buff as much as i can

[@MantraDNG]

Well there is a difference between as much as I can 20:05 and 100% up time, also without knowing your gear or the guild hard to really give you any tips.. if you kill times are 3 mins long vs 30 seconds that 8% crit rate could be hurting you if you don't spike early etc.. the long the fight the more rng. Maybe your gears bad or your not optimizing your time on boss etc..

[@Dewwwwvwvwvw]

you probably dont have optimal grp comp+maxed out wbs. even having a warlock is 5.6% dps gain or so because of cor, paladin for bom, you must have a feral if you get that high already theyre prob 40% dps increase on their own, priest with homunculus is something insane too i am guessing over 10% since you dont need to use gcds on sunder+its much larger armor reduction, surely you have hunter for kings. then dmf 10% dmg buff once every two weeks,no chance without it, ashenvale is 5% dmg buff once a week so you cant get it every run. expect to get around 80% avg if you just have feral+hunter and just bfd wb and no crazy sheningans

[@davenine2612]

would honestly love to know ur keybinds if it isn't a pain to share

[@skrongg]

Rogue next Crix

[@Whydyoudothis]

Explain how …. Flagellation only active during blood rage 60 sec cd is not the exact same thing as raging blow which is also only active during blood rage???

[@Senield]

Raging blow works with the wbrage from consumed by rage. Flagellation doesn't. Cant remember how its worded on the rune but it does say

[@Whydyoudothis]

Ah sheeesh thats sick I didn’t know that thank you

[@TobiasCzakalla]

Wich Rotation Addon do you have?

[@CrixGuides]

It's an addon called Spell Replay - www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/spellreplay-quickfix/files

[@ainz7624]

i cant cancel my heroic strike for some reason

[@StellarScienceCosmos]

warrior tank next pls

[@jasond7969]

there should be a food you can eat prior to pulling that gives you full rage bar

[@Scottydont86]

Cant download Fujis WA. its encrypted

[@Bensai91]

Where's the macro for heroic strike...?

[@CrixGuides]

My apologies! I forgot to link it. #showtooltip Heroic Strike /startattack /cast Heroic Strike /stopcasting #showtooltip Cleave /startattack /cast Cleave /stopcasting

[@giulianluiz658]

i need to know how to control my rage,

[@nicholascotrupi8165]

Fluid* gameplay, not Fluent ;>

[@BlackTemplarPudsey93]

what addon is that

[@romyiii]

Does quick strike proc wild strikes ?

[@CrixGuides]

Yep

[@romyiii]

Oh lovely ! Thanks for the quick answer @@CrixGuides

[@CrixGuides]

No problem! Cheers!@@romyiii

[@JeremiahCommons]

I mean I am all for crit but more AP from str and you keep recommending agi > str like for rings smh not sure what to say to this.

[@JeremiahCommons]

RIP your rage and dps to keep sunder up as dps warrior

[@CrixGuides]

I'm only recommending what the Sims are my friend. There's many ways to build your toon, I wont tell you how to do it. I will say that my rage is more than fine and I'm not even geared yet. I imagine it will just get better. Also Priest should 100% run Homunculi, unless maybe solo healing.

[@Graahk-r8u]

if dual wield then there’s nothing wrong with stacking agi for deep wounds procs.

[@jeffblute88]

anyone got an updated link to the fight club discord?

[@CrixGuides]

discord.gg/RbCZJtw Should work

[@SelfDistruction]

Whats the add on and ui let me know or link me a vid

[@fireypicnic]

charge in? on a boss?

[@CrixGuides]

Yeah. You'll survive it. Just do it at like 2sec on pull timer

[@fireypicnic]

haha. im gonna do it. @@CrixGuides

[@CrixGuides]

@@fireypicnic Do itttt. Trust me, you'll be fine brother.

[@fireypicnic]

was a small amount of grumbling from the tank lol. @@CrixGuides

[@Arite-Deadlock]

First!

[@ki1631]

lmao spending money on a weak aura is rly crazy xD

[@CrixGuides]

While I agree, I personally don't mind this one because Foji makes WA's for like everything. Wotlk, cata, classic, raid WA's, etc and you get all of them from one sub

[@skimask5933]

Macro wasnt on screen

[@CrixGuides]

Ohh shit. I'll put it in thr description! My bad. #showtooltip Heroic Strike /startattack /cast Heroic Strike /stopcasting #showtooltip Cleave /startattack /cast Cleave /stopcasting

[@allenjohnroe]

i liked the guide. If you stop hitting QE or AD whitchever one it is you use to sidestep back and fourth, ill come back for more of your content. It's annoying and nauseating.

[@CrixGuides]

I have no idea why I do it.

[@ioncamin5]

what is the purpose of the photo in the bottom left besides covering content...i dont need a photo of your logo cause i already know im watching one of your videos, Im already here, what is the thought process of putting that photo over the footage? if it were a webcam of you talking it would make sense and it would be better content, but its not the case, you just put a photo covering video...why are you against having your viewers become subscribers?

[@CrixGuides]

You're thinking too deep into my friend. I use a chat blocker because most of the time it's just to cover my chat up. That's where my in game chat is. Other times it covers of my webcam from my stream vod as to not distract. I've never been one to show my face and talk in my videos. For more professional this way IMO. I'm not sure why you'd assume I'm against my viewers becoming subscribers, and I'm also not sure why it'd matter much whether it's a camera or chat blocker. People come for the information in the video, not to see my face IMO.

[@kevinchandler46]

Kinda cheesy cleaving on the first fight. Artificially pumping the meter

[@CrixGuides]

You're supposed to cleave that fight as a Warrior. The add counts on logs

[@2008redsi]

Still trying to get the dragon spear from wetlands for the raging blow

[@PULAG]

How are dps warrior looking in pvp? Mine lost to a fkn hunter's serpent pet 1v1. Why warrior die so fast vs a pet? Da fk is this game

[@TimeTraveler-hk5xo]

Minor fortitude elixir and trolls blood potion are useless consumables. 27 health when your max hp is 1500 isnt gonna stop you from dying to 4 hits of 400 damage. The trolls blood wouldve ticked maybe twice in the time it takes for you to take four hits, providing an extra 12 health, which still doesn't save you. What would save you is a druid pressing lifebloom or wild growth, a priest pressing penance or shield, a paladin using bop, a shaman using earth shield... You could even switch to a shield for a couple seconds and stop dps so your tank can regain threat. Those consumables are gonna do nothing for your survival in 99% of the cases where you'd need them.

[@CrixGuides]

While I agree, I've died before with a 47dmg overkill. Elixir of Fort would've saved me.

[@phaynt17]

Hey I'm in this video am I famous yet.

[@g.g.2359]

😂 they are definitely NOT! You know this game have more aspects to judge by than target dummy (pve) dps with windfury from another class and 300 buffs and heals. Until yotubers/twitch streamers start talking for classes in general in all their aspects nothing will ever change or improve. I will gladly trade in a heart beat the 1st standing of supported target dummy godmode standing to feel better in pvp on my own without without being healed buffed and supported. Yes i dont want to be unkillable or a godmode but if any warrior says he feel good in pvp atm on its own hes delusional

[@CrixGuides]

I'm not sure what this was about, but I'm all for it if you are.

[@g.g.2359]

@@CrixGuides Sorry dunno why i haven’t mentioned it clearly. Is about the “warriors are in rly good spot now” . Its more like “ warriors pve dps ONLYis in a good spot” not warriors overall. I just hope some day someone as popular as you will start talking for classes and how good they are considering more than pve target dummy raid bosses. Ppl like you are the only voice and only chance for Blizzards attention and for now all they hear is probably how good warriors are when they are bad for pvp that nobody talks about. Ofc im talking how the class feels on its own and not whe u have 3 priests behind your back to support you while taking tons of damage to generate rage so u can be somewhat impactful on competitive scene. Literally all classes are mmore desired in premades than autohit rage starve simulator called a warrior

[@Randomnamegoeshere]

Maybe you shouldn't expect people to go in-depth about how a class feels in PVP or other aspects of the game in a video titled "warrior RAID guide".@@g.g.2359

[@YoDrood]

That's PvP big dawg

[@RomanNikolaiev]

@@g.g.2359 I’m not a follower or fan of the author (first video I see), but the common sense tells me that if the video is called “warrior raid guide” then “warriors are in a good place” refers to the current high-end pve content. For which warriors are in a good place. So what’s the problem with this statement, considering the topic and the name of the video? Just curious, no disrespect towards your pvp opinion, which is completely valid.