THE BEST WAY TO LOWER YOUR BMW M3 or M4 ON A BUDGET! (DIY)

[@jake_spence]

Can I get a 'like' for the epic drift at 20:13?

[@Kelpk1]

Jake Spence definitely take a like for that!

[@JerainJezza]

My way of daily driving :D

[@MADLITS1K]

“Epic” lol all u did was power slide while turning do a actual street drifting video

[@javi_335i]

Nice drift action🔥💪🏽

[@Espence2323]

You sounded straight Texan when you said “I feel kinda bad for” at 20:36

[@jake_spence]

YEEEEEEHAWWWWWW!

[@SergNoberg]

I never comment on videos but this was Such a way easier process to add the springs than some of the other videos I’ve watched, just bought my lowering springs for my M4, thanks for the video

[@terrancecollins2696]

This is an insanely easy job for what you're accomplishing ... Cannot wait to do this myself I can't wait lol

[@jeengyim3072]

This is the best one I’ve seen and a lot easier and faster

[@eric4698]

I'M SOLD....... getting a set for my 2015 F82... thank you for the in-depth review on the install...subscribed

[@jake_spence]

Glad I could help! They're awesome springs and I still love them. You'll be happy.

[@eric4698]

@@jake_spence zi was mainly worried about the 1.3in front drop but I have the F82 and since it drops .5in more in the back I think that will remove some of the aggressive rake the F80 has and lever the front out slightly. Will see.....

[@famousmidnight]

Had no idea you bought an m3. Congrats man beautiful car.. Personally would have used the cups in the rear but wtvr

[@jake_spence]

Thanks! 👍 I can always add the spacers if I want.

[@99jroach]

Love all your videos man so glad you’re getting to experience the new M3!!!

[@jake_spence]

Thanks Justin! It's been an awesome experience so far.

[@vivid_racing]

Nice video! Definitely made a huge difference

[@jake_spence]

Agreed, thanks! I couldn’t be happier.

[@sterlcom2]

So what are your plans for winter driving? are you going to get snow tires?

[@jake_spence]

The car actually came with a second set of wheels with brand new snow tires. I’ll either use this car or get another cheaper winter car.

[@InitialRacing]

So glad you made this a DIY video. Missed the videos for a bit. I sold the 135i But still love my daily dose of BMW. Def need some more #FastandFurious videos though. Sending support from Florida!

[@jake_spence]

Right on! I'm hoping to drop some of the racing videos that you guys seem to love soon!

[@أناحوسيني-خ7خ]

What year is ur m3? You really do ur homework...u have picture of ur m3 before n after fixing the new springs..excellent job.

[@etelking]

nice job man looks good

[@jake_spence]

Thanks 👍

[@FL5ghost]

I did the H&R Super sport springs! I love my CS

[@jake_spence]

Nice! I read some not-so-great things about H&R SS. How do you like them?

[@FL5ghost]

Jake Spence their honestly not that bad I haven’t had any problems, everyone says there bouncy they aren’t.

[@camsprouse317]

Did you guys have any issues reconnecting the wiring harness for the suspension? Mine will not go on no matter how hard I push

[@lennartverleye8700]

How do you know how much torque each nut and bolt needs?

[@jake_spence]

I looked it up online. You can find all of the torque specs in my write-up linked in the description.

[@oscararreola6855]

You’re doing a great job bro👍🏻 Been watching your videos for a while now.. a lot of info here keep doing what ur doing man

[@jake_spence]

Thank you so much 👍 I really appreciate the support.

[@racheltitus9257]

1:17 Tons of research didn't even click the Blake's Garage video with a full install and driving review lol

[@mikebellows754]

Nice car and good info on the springs. I own a ‘18 F80 comp manual in the same color as yours. Like your videos!

[@2052lt]

Such a great car Jake ! I'm happy for you. 1st thing to do before moding, crank hub fix !

[@jake_spence]

Thanks! I don't plan on doing the crank hub fix immediately (fingers crossed LOL), but it'll happen at some point!

[@mercstealthdk]

Every time I watch your videos makes me want to get my childhood dream car, v10 m5. I just need to sell my VW and finish my winter beater to do it.

[@jake_spence]

You can do it! I love the E60 M5, sounds so great.

[@borisstupar4208]

Dope! Looking forward to the entire build

[@jake_spence]

You and me both!

[@TickleMePinkGaming]

would these fit on a m4 zcp with spacers?

[@jake_spence]

Yes they will!

[@oside_m5]

I wish they had these for my F10 M5. I put H&R spring in because I wanted to retain my factory EDC and it seems ok on the H&Rs and not bouncy. F10 M5 is coilover on the rear like the front though, not like you M4 with a spring separate from the strut. not sure if that makes a diff.

[@Demoaccount-i2k]

Drop is perfect

[@jake_spence]

Agreed!

[@robscott1620]

Smashed it we need more videos alway look forward to watching them. 🤟🤟

[@jake_spence]

Working on it! Thanks for the support man.

[@BTSyaya]

Can I get a 1 year update lol thinking about lowering springs from my f82 and wondering how these are doing

[@silviondorere3185]

That’s interesting. I installed ED on my 2018 Golf R and HATED them. So bouncy, wish I’d gotten H&R instead. I hope you have a better experience then I did.

[@jake_spence]

Interesting! Thanks for chiming in. What kind of reputation did they have in the VW world? I have no other experience with them.

[@MrNicoe36cabrio]

Very nice upgrade Jake! Stay safe! Dutch lockdown( till 28th of April) regards, Nico.

[@jake_spence]

Thanks! You too! We're on lockdown til end of April as well. We'll see if it gets extended.

[@AtilioEscobar]

I'm not really a car mod guy, but fascinated with the process. My question is, when u put lowering springs on, does it affect the tire wear? As in, not wearing evenly? Always wondered that.

[@micraw714]

Nice! I'm throwing some st coils on my e92 m3 tomorrow 😁 I was actually about to order that same torque wrench you're using in the description too, that's pretty cool.

[@jake_spence]

Nice 👍 Let me know what you think of those ST coilovers! I've found that Tekton makes great, affordable tools. I am continuing to buy more of their stuff.

[@micraw714]

@@jake_spence Will do! And yes I've seen good reviews on them so I'm anxious to give it a shot 😁

[@scotthainey8682]

The car looks amazing I've nerve liked lowering springs on shock shocks but these seem pretty legit and the drift 👏👏

[@jake_spence]

Thanks! 👍 I'm very happy with them. Thanks for watching.

[@scotthainey8682]

@@jake_spence no problem man love your videos keep them coming we need your videos in this time right now being stuck in the house

[@isaiahchandra6396]

Looks good man! Love the channel. Hopefully gonna be adding an f80 to my vw/audi stable in the next few years

[@harrisonjoa]

I wish you went through the suspension modes on the springs. Do they still work?

[@christianperles9780]

Nice video! You definitely made the springs look easier then when I did it with jacks in a drive way with a buddy. What plans do you have for the f80 and what’s your thoughts on doing the crank hub fix for these cars

[@jake_spence]

I'd like to do FBO and some tasteful appearance modifications. Crank hub eventually. I think it's a good peace of mind.

[@krispuglisi8482]

Just ordered these to have installed. Did you end up using the spacers?

[@kevinryan2556]

Excellent video! Definitely thinking about trying this on my F80. Do you still recommend this product at this point? Thank you.

[@jjbmuu]

Why didn’t you go with MSS, are they not available? Heard they were the way to go!

[@jake_spence]

Macht Schnell?

[@jjbmuu]

Jake Spence kzbin.info/www/bejne/bp23ZHShaJatqNk

[@Denacethemennis]

Dope video! Do you think my tire will rub the fender if I have competition wheels with these springs installed?

[@jake_spence]

No, they won't.

[@Dame102988]

I had their same on my M4 but now I have KWV3s

[@jake_spence]

Why did you switch? Did you not like the EMD springs?

[@xUSxGHOST2049x]

I wonder if you can remove the spring from the front like that on a e60 🤔

[@jake_spence]

I'm not too sure, I'm not familiar with E60s. But it worked great on the F80!

[@BMWHOBO]

When will the hoodie you are wearing be available for purchase?

[@jake_spence]

I can definitely add this to BimmerStreet! Keep your eye out in future videos, I'll mention when it's available.

[@MrKarlfebel]

Looks perfect

[@jake_spence]

Agreed, thanks!

[@VinceFung]

I'm tempted to go Emmanuele but I have a V-style lip and feel that maybe eibach would be safer but the drop is nearly nothing in the rear with eibachs :(

[@davis7323]

Amazing video any noob can do this! Question though, my f83, m4 convertible is lowered on HR springs 1.5f/1.1r, I want to raise the front some. I understand that people can add spring pads to raise the rear, what can be done for the front? I'm in NY not the best roads and bought the car like this, wanted to raise it up slightly. Thanks!

[@Aqthekid]

With those springs the biggest tire you can go in the back with is 285 correct ?

[@kevinryan2556]

Great video. Question: Is there a torque recommendation for tightening the front strut rod nut? Thank you

[@stevenakachian7221]

Did you consider the m performance springs? Why didn't you go with factory?

[@johncastillo7430]

Love the car man! I have a 1er right now that’s what lead me to your channel but later down the road I want to get an f80 competition how do you think these springs would do on that? I don’t know for a fact if the spring rate is different ZCP or not.

[@jake_spence]

Thank you! I'm glad you found the channel. I have some 1er videos coming soon. I'm not sure about the F80 ZCP springs either, but I would assume they're close to the same, if not identical. I wouldn't hesitate using these springs on a Competition package car.

[@johncastillo7430]

Jake Spence awesome! I’m excited to see the progression of the M3, great channel and great content!

[@Jamstig83]

Did you ever install the rear pucks afterwards?

[@drifter2090]

Spacers time!

[@yourfavoritecio]

Awesome vid and definitely Subscribed! I wonder if those springs work on a F02 with rear air springs?

[@Kryptonman27]

What about when it snows? Will you have enough clearance?

[@209Paul2011]

Need spacers to bump the wheels out a bit, color match side reflectors, and gloss black kidney grille, then you'll be done.

[@jake_spence]

I have all of the above, just need to install :)

[@WhatsyourForte]

Hey man. I have been looking at these springs for my M4. I have the adaptive suspension. Which suspension do you have?

[@jake_spence]

I also have the adaptive suspension. They work great, I love em!

[@gregbaker4524]

I wonder if you can remove the spring from the front like that on a e60 🤔

[@sandro2304]

Hi Jake, I assume you will be installing studs on the wheels of this car too, right? Also, will you put spacers on this car? And, what year is the F80?

[@jake_spence]

Yes, that's the plan! It's a 2015.

[@sandro2304]

@@jake_spence Is it worth putting spacers on an M2? (My car is bone stock other than having ceramic coating)

[@TheBigboySid]

@@sandro2304 ceramic coating the spacers first.

[@changsivilay8015]

What size spacers are you putting in the front and back? And what brand did you go with?

[@krispuglisi8482]

Are these EDC compatible what does it come with emulators? I know some of these can throw an alert every time you start the car? Otherwise they look awesome

[@endlessaddictions1150]

Did you not have camber issues ?

[@oOFF33Oo]

Thank you for this amazing video. I have a question, I have a 540i G30 with option 223 adaptive suspension and I would like to know if I can also mount these short springs because my suspension system is a little different from your... Is there no influence on the control of the suspension with these short springs or premature wear of the system? Has your suspension been performing well since installing the short springs?

[@greddy376]

Hey Jake do you have or remember the camber specs of the car after lowering it? Thanks you

[@rileymax8175]

Do these springs not work with the adaptive suspension?

[@jake_spence]

They definitely work with adaptive suspension, that’s what I have. They also work with the standard suspension.

[@Sublim3side]

Are you still rocking theses springs? still feel the same way about them?

[@carlitosway7974]

Looks good, but need some spacers.

[@THECANDYISGONE]

Price with springs + install? Thanks. :)

[@jake_spence]

$300-350 depending on if you have an M3 or M4. Install shouldn't be more than a couple hundred bucks. M3: bit.ly/2yr2pyJ M4: bit.ly/2ytzR7T

[@Fuzion180]

I really want an M3/M4!

[@jake_spence]

Get one!

[@The52blocks]

Jake - you have the air impact tool to help you take off the front strut mount bolt, what would you suggest if not using an air tool? I see some people say you can use an 18mm 12 pin open socket - is that true? And any other way other than me buying a new socket set?

[@slowgls]

Hell yeah, looks so good. Btw, good job holding on to her. Was worried for a second. Lol.

[@jake_spence]

Oh she's not going anywhere! I'm keeping this one for a while.

[@slowgls]

@@jake_spence I think you missed what I was saying . Was talking g about the slid at the end of the video. Good job not loosing it. Lol.

[@AbletonLiveTechs]

hey i have a 2018 f80 m3 competition wheels. I put 15 mm in front and 20mm spacers in back. Love how wide the back is but i do not like the gap in the front. Can I go with just rear wheel spacers and leave fronts stock?

[@Kryptonman27]

i bought these springs and my local shop said that the front will take longer because of the edc is this true?

[@jake_spence]

It shouldn't take any longer. Sounds like they might be yanking your chain a little bit.

[@Kryptonman27]

@@jake_spence ok cool, thanks for the reply

[@BrandonFinleyx]

Hi! I just did my springs on my F22, and it sounds like the struts are popping when I turn at no/low speeds. I use a counterhold/ratchet off of the car and tightened the strut nut. Is it possibly that the top nut isnt tight enough? If so, I should be able to hit it with an impact with the car on the ground right? Any help is appreciated!

[@Griffin283]

Now you just need spacers to get rid of the hover craft look.. Two best mods to the F8X chassis.

[@franklyn335i]

Hey, will these fit the f30 335 xdrive

[@jake_spence]

No, they won't. You need these: bit.ly/3bXi338 or these: bit.ly/2RfYefs

[@Valadcm500]

You got a new subscriber bro I thought I was sub been watching for months lol

[@JerainJezza]

Damn that looked easy! That front way of putting springs on is smart, will it work on an E92? The height looks amazingly good and spot on, which is not so easy with just lowering springs.

[@jake_spence]

It was! And I'm not too sure. I've never seen it done that way, or tried it myself on an E92. I feel like I would've come across that method before, but you can try it and see what happens!

[@TheBigDubovsky]

Thanks for the video. Just wondering, did you replace any of the bolts and nuts with new ones? Also did your shop do indexing on some of the bushings?

[@DelroyGill]

Do they sell these for F83 2019?

[@fpschorsch]

Jake do you still like the springs after months on them? Im considering doing the same and about to buy them. I thi k I will use them with the rear spacers though.. Let me know if you've had any issues. Thanks 👍

[@F80oscar]

Do you think a 275/30/20 fit instead of a 265 ?

[@21void5]

Real nice stance. I’m wondering what would it looks like with the spacer on. I always like the rear is a little bit higher than the front that just my own opinion. If you can slap some wheel spacers on. Oh man. It’s going to look really clean

[@hanksun267]

how do you film the drive bys?

[@MrScholarly]

I wish they made them for the 2015 M235i ☹️

[@jake_spence]

Me too! I'd recommend the H&R Sport springs for your F22: bit.ly/2UMcwXn

[@hlfuture]

Will these springs work on a 430i 2018 ?

[@mmlehman11]

Did you have any sounds in your front end after installing these? I did the same exact thing here with the same springs and watched this video and now I have a clunking sound in my right front end. Can you ask your mechanic what this might be since I follow this to a T.

[@nonstopper]

Did you ever fix. I hear you have to tighten sway bar end links while the suspension is under load

[@dmitriypopkov7510]

No spring compressor needed??

[@LuchoCampusano]

thanks Jake !

[@gurbaxsingh1876]

Where the 135i racing videos at?

[@jake_spence]

They're coming! Waiting on warmer weather at this point.

[@jonathanlopez1114]

can these work for a 2017 bmw 430i

[@jason82180]

Realistically, how long would you say this job is.

[@grahamwilliams2494]

"Today we're gonna cut the springs on my m3" xD

[@1Heyfred]

Now check your bump steer. Looks over performance.

[@devildog0331]

M Performance HAS kit is the way to go on F80, sorry.

[@jake_spence]

Agreed, this is the way to go, but it is quite a bit more expensive.

[@WhatTheFlipOfficial]

Might as well get coilovers at that price, any type of springs, yes including BMWs own lowering spring, only setup will add extra wear to your struts.

[@Ghostmap]

Look Great 👍🏼!!!

[@TuanNguyen-zm3gq]

Looking good!!!!!

[@ronaldo19832]

Man I wish I had known about these before... all the solution I found were a bit to expensive for my m4

[@unrealeck]

If I had some money, I'd spend it on AC Schnitzer springs.

[@BrapcityH-D]

I like how he is like we we we and all he did was hold the camera

[@Fix_It_Again_Tony]

I think the stability improvement you feel ("floaty" feeling gone) is a result of improved aerodynamics by lowering the car and particularly the front. A low front helps reduce the airflow under the car than can create turbulence which reduces the air's speed and creates lift. This is what an air dam does, but obviously the closer the air dam is to the road the better it works. You didn't lower the rear as much so just maybe (and I mean maybe) you are getting more of the same effect that occurs in a diffuser on a race car. I suspect it is more of a reduction in lift from preventing underflow than a increase in negative lift generated by the rake of the car. It would be nice if someone who studied vehicle aerodynamics would chime in.

[@jake_spence]

I agree with your thought process. But I didn't want to say anything concrete because I'm no engineer or aerodynamics expert. But I'm glad to see we're on the same page lol.

[@Fix_It_Again_Tony]

@@jake_spence For sure. Whole careers are dedicated to this kind of thing. There is a three parts series on F1 aerodynamics that is pretty interesting: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kHeoq4CBjs-GnsU

[@jeffreywornjuyskey3545]

legend

[@jake_spence]

🙏

[@bkracoski3283]

Like before watching the video :)

[@jake_spence]

You the real MVP!

[@JuanReyes-qr9kp]

BMW power 🚘🚘😎

[@nox_chan]

seeing the brake lines and abs cables under tension triggered my PTSD

[@jake_spence]

LOL