The BEST & WORST Legends in Season 17!

[@HeadShotxZeRo]

I personally think ballistic is cracked with his ult buffing the entire team. It come back so fast the quick reloads allows you to apply so much pressure in gunfights and there is no escaping team just running you down.

[@OneNotch17]

I agree

[@vodellc7590]

Yeah I’d say he’s b not c but he’s still not a

[@kainegent444]

I have been tearing with ballistic and I think he's cracked with pubs like an a tier with teammates that want to push but in pubs I can see how he's c tier

[@carlosdmexican]

he's only good when theres communication in the team, I fairly like him when I play with mates but when I play solo when no one ever listens to calls he's pretty dog shit

[@TheProphegy]

I don’t need a third gun unless I get a Rampage/Havoc so it’s automatically charged up when I use the ult. He’s a great three stack legend but when you solo queue he’s like a C/B- Legend. Mid tier.

[@TheLsp2011]

Yeah, sorry to say, NewCastle is at minimum A-Tier. The only reason you could dock him points, is because he’s not the easiest character to use. He’s pretty hard actually, which is why more people actually pick Gibby (Gibby is a lot easier to use).

[@siffmaster2032]

Couldn't agree more. Lost me with the C tier rating.

[@hunterfpv5201]

I was legit looking for this comment I been maiming new castle he shits on gibby bro like caustic above new castle common

[@imtoxiq_]

Yes pressing revive with ur good knock down on ur team mates when they are down is very difficult

[@hunterfpv5201]

@@imtoxiq_ it’s not that simple if I ran up on a new castle rezing I’m just gonna shoot the shield break it crack him with my team

[@FollowerOfChrist144]

I disagree. You can shoot through his shield easily. Only thing that makes he “viable” is his shield reviving.

[@buffpath]

I personally think that ballastic is an insane teamfighting legend. His ult is insane for straight 3v3’s.

[@bigplaystanly]

Early game he is insane too. Definitely A-B Tier easily.

[@ChunkyChungus]

Even for 2v3, depends on the use of his abilities

[@palomao8949]

1v3s if you actually are kind of a good player. I started maining him now just because he is so good. 1v3s are honestly kind of easy against Plat or below players. Plus can win 1v1s against almost anyone if tactical used right. HES A TIER STOP THE DEBATE

[@itsme1753]

Bro is controller player so he dont know the power of octane

[@imjonkatz]

TL;DR: S: Seer, Bangalore, Loba A: Pathfinder, Bloodhound, Horizon, Valkyrie, Catalyst, Wraith B: Wattson, Caustic, Lifeline, Gibraltar, Mad Maggie, Mirage C: Fuse, Newcastle*, Crypto*, Rampart, Ash, Ballistic D: Octane, Vantage F: Revenant *Could be higher with a competent squad

[@rexxpotato]

bangalore went from B to S??

[@imjonkatz]

@@rexxpotato Ask Mangos, not me. :P

[@richbreezy9920]

@@rexxpotato the amount ultility and movement she has shes really good

[@cereal-agario7705]

thanks, was looking for this

[@tuomaspeltonen336]

The thing about Ash is her passive. Being able to see all the death boxes is something I always miss when not playing her. You can time your third party perfectly, see who's rotating in late and set up an ambush and just read the flow of the round. And without anyone knowing you scanned them.

[@samueldorsette5366]

Brooo to me ash is S tier

[@user-fy3nf3lg2j]

No even with the buff she’s still really shit. Probs honestly by far worst legend. Her tactical is still slow, portal gets you beamed (doesn’t aim properly) her tactical needs a fast deployment speed as fast as revenants. She’s honestly a Frankenstein monster of revenants tactical (revs tactical beeeing faaaaaaar superior) and wraith and Lina’s tactical. The fact that u still have to pre-aim the location of where the enemy is sprinting to because it doesn’t reach them in time is just a nuisance. The best thing about her kit is her passive. Unfortunately she has such amazing potential her kit but respawn r fuck heads. Also her teather doesn’t even work on apex’s golden child horizon. If u main ash might as well switch over to rev his tactical is faaar better at preventing enemies from escaping and his ult can be actually used for a push. Kind of annoying glaring issues with ash that could turn her easily into a A list apex but the devs love her being completely underpowered.

[@samueldorsette5366]

@@user-fy3nf3lg2j well i use her pretty good and ik how to get around the hardships ppl have with her so i like her

[@Abyssal-Watcher]

She needs a longer ult range for her to be better. That and if she goes to a death box and actually scans it should do more. Maybe give it a blood scan effect within 100 meters for like 5 secs or something. Or if she scans a box the pinged team gets pinged every minute or 2 unless you mark another death box until they die. Cuz that part of her passive is really, really situation at best if not borderline useless. Cuz if you know death box locations and look at your map you can easily pinpoint where there rotating through and it lets them know you pinged them. Honestly give it at least the benefit on not giving the other team a notification.

[@Ginodesruisseaux984]

Lmaooo Ash is 15x better then rev

[@Minly147]

I am generally very content with the balance this season. I think that you could play every legend and do well (even rev)

[@RogueElement.]

Just had a 2 win streak with my buddy playing rev and me Bangalore.... 😭 Last ring totem with bang ult on them🤣🙅‍♂️

[@jimschips940]

COULD YOU PLEEEEEEASE DO A MIXTAPE LEGEND TEIR LIST??? I’d love to know how that changes things.

[@MangosInTrees]

I could think about it 🤔

[@snowyvulpix5203]

​@@MangosInTrees 100% do it

[@prvtti]

​@@MangosInTrees do it

[@solareclipse1055]

@@MangosInTrees do it, also do weapons pls father

[@zSolsticeeee]

@@MangosInTrees cheese

[@C.C-e4n]

So nice to see Loba finally in S tier for a change. She's been my main for a few seasons now, and despite her bracelet not working for a season or two, I always thought she was great. But now, she's just insane

[@honeymune]

Her bracelet not working brings back nightmares

[@sickandafraid]

@@honeymune man i remember when she first released, she literally could not sprint when she threw her bracelet

[@Itz-Jayded]

Except she's f tier

[@C.C-e4n]

@@Itz-Jayded after all the support class buffs? What are you smoking

[@jonathanmurillo537]

@@sickandafraid damn I forgot about that slowdown after teleporting and I’ve mained her since Season 5 lol

[@dexterwinn7615]

--------F Tier-------- 0:06 Revenant --------D Tier-------- 0:48 Octane 1:15 Vantage --------C Tier-------- 2:03 Fuse 2:45 Newcastle 3:37 Crypto 4:13 Rampart 4:58 Ash 5:43 Ballistic --------B Tier-------- 6:38 Wattson 7:28 Caustic 8:28 Lifeline 9:18 Gibraltar 9:56 Mad Maggie 10:33 Mirage --------A Tier-------- 11:13 Pathfinder 11:54 Bloodhound 12:38 Horizon 13:17 Valkyrie 14:03 Catalyst 14:56 Wraith --------S Tier-------- 15:39 Seer 16:06 Bangalore 16:39 Loba

[@Sanefairjr]

Mirage is S tier -based Mirage Main

[@SoundzbyLUX]

New Castle is an easy S tier if used properly imo. He's incredibly balanced and is solid in aiding rotations and revives. His ult can give cover if needed or block a door if needed plus give him cover and height. He can't really solo though and you have to really cooperate with him.

[@hunterfpv5201]

Ty like life line and shit above him is wild

[@alexyang2328]

Newcastle is very mid. His ult being broken by 2 punches, shield having low health, revive being the only good ability definitely is not S no matter what. a at best with coordinated team but I’m pubs and solo q definitely not

[@tylerjames4333]

@@hunterfpv5201Did you watch the video? He explained why his rank was the way it was🤷‍♂️

[@EstellammaSS]

No he’s not. He’s good in some situations but in diamond+ lobbies people would just run you over if you lose a player. Also New castle is almost always the first one to get downed in close range fights because of his hit box size

[@jt.hudgens7156]

In what world is taking 15% less damage in a close range fire mean that I am getting down more often. If I run into a room and I am in a guy and we both had every shot, I win every time.

[@digi601]

Started playing crypto last season and now is my favorite legend, once you learn him he is so much better than people believe him to be. Being able to destroy almost anything in the game is huge especially watson. Ive had several situations where i push a watson team in a building and they cant do anything to stop me. Very underrated legend.

[@JamesM2667]

As a Bangalore main since season 3 I’m so happy to see bang finally getting more love these past few seasons specifically

[@Xx_Sourmoons]

I think a good buff for Wattson would be when she revives she restores one shield cell worth of shield to the teammate

[@MANTO_DEAN]

This is actually such a good idea. I never personally liked playing her, but I can think of more than a few Wattson mains who would LOVE that buff. It's fair and it makes sense.

[@kingcerberus93]

As a Wattson main I second this motion.. but she needs no buffs. She's a very highly underrated legend n if you actually know how to use her which most don't. Then she can dominate easily.

[@2ramirez187]

I dont think this would be a good idea as the gold backpack already had the ability/perk to revive s teammate and add 2 shield cells worth of shields.

[@Suraimu00]

People say evac tower makes Valkyrie weaker but if anything it actually buffs her. You can get free scans by using the evac tower and I feel like her scan passive gets used even more with this tower

[@rioulethebeats9717]

In my opinion it's still too early for ballistic to be rated but if I was going to rate them I would have put him in high B because the speed boost is Ultimate gives you can just straight up have a pocket devotion fully kitted or a pocket Havoc fully kitted. It will be a alternative to what was Ultimate as she steals ammo from other people even if it's stolen from you you can still get more from your ultimate. And his ability isn't that bad I say you can still get killed if they have like a bolt action weapon or a semi-auto weapon. A good pop shots from a wingman or G7 Scout. Could kill you before the extra 30 damage comes off of your health. And not only that you can just easily switch out your other weapon when yours is locked out

[@ChefboiRT59]

If u spent this much time at school you would be in honors 😂

[@jamesschaller753]

S tier for me his alt and tac is OP asf

[@OneNotch17]

@@ChefboiRT59this dude 😭

[@imtoxiq_]

Him*

[@rioulethebeats9717]

@@ChefboiRT59 if i spent that much time at school i would remember what the hell i did in school

[@MANTO_DEAN]

So glad to finally see someone ranking Mirage higher. He has such amazing potential and works so much more than people know.

[@Sanefairjr]

Bro is a healer but also an attacker

[@MANTO_DEAN]

@@Sanefairjr He “protect and Attack” as the people say.

[@kazakhstanisthecapitalofth3482]

​@@Sanefairjrsupport, to be fair, not healer. you can call lifeline a healer cuz of her DOC but def not mr haha im funny mirage

[@speeedwagonnn6959]

Vantage in D tier is a crime, a good vantage will always be able to position herself greatly and get some nice high ground. Her tactical is basically an octane jumppad with a much shorter cooldown. Ult is great for scouting and getting some easy knocks as well. She is at least A tier imo

[@immortalsausage6120]

She’s the worst legend in the game end of story

[@jovist1823]

@@immortalsausage6120 whats Ur Main?

[@immortalsausage6120]

@@jovist1823 daddy pathfinder

[@jovist1823]

@@immortalsausage6120 😫Mine too but vantage is rly underrated imo

[@immortalsausage6120]

@@jovist1823 idk bro maybe, in my eyes compared to other legends she's really irrelevant

[@OfficialGKTM]

0:06 F tier 0:48 D tier 2:02 C tier 6:34 B tier 11:12 A tier 15:34 S tier

[@Jtyungin]

I’m a vantage main and I think she is absolutely amazing. She may not have the best moves overall but she has movement, long range, and recon all in one legend, and being able to tell how many in a squad is so handy. D teir is far too low for being one of the most versatile legends in the game

[@BigSuzpekt]

Her ult is useless in close range. This season is a close range season, with the maps being smaller and smgs being the meta. I think that’s the issue, since a vantage doesn’t bring anything to the team when you’re close range. Not a good idea to bring that ult out in close range, you’ll get 1 clipped by an r9.

[@Jtyungin]

@@BigSuzpekt yeah it’s useless at close range but it’s a god at mid to long range, no ult is just a god for every situation possible, and that’s what you have 2 primary weapons for, which should be a prowler or r99. And the for the team comp, might be best for me cause I only play with my friends so there is always communication. But her passives is one of the most useful tools I can think of. Example my squad was in final 3 on kings canyon yesterday. It was a solo octane red shield and a duo crypto and bloodhound both red shield. Knowing who was in what squad, how many they had was a game changer to my team. With that info we snuck around to where the duo was. We each targeted one and bam. Now it is our full team vs 2 solos. Knowledge is power🙏🏾

[@Jtyungin]

@@BigSuzpekt me I’m a tactile minded person, I only shoot when I need to and I like to have constant layout of my surroundings, so for me the ability to find a team, leave echo at a spot jump down kill one, use my tac to him and pin someone so they can’t get to them while my teammates rush is the besy

[@jamesdean4966]

With this ranking system this season Vantage has been my secondary main. Her mobility is 100% underrated. The ult is pretty solid in most situations. I do agree she's a D tier recon legend though.

[@DuckFu]

@@BigSuzpekt why are pulling out her ult at close range? You run vantage because you have her ult to use long range, then your two guns are for close and medium range.

[@jakiru8783]

The weird thing about Ash is she plays like a Skirmisher... Controller... *and* Recon... All while being in the Assault class. Perhaps if they gave Ash a more clearly defined role on the team she'd be better. One way could be to rework her into a Controller by totally changing the passive to have synergy with the class-passive, tactical allowing a certain amount of arc snares to stay as traps, and the ult when casted could apply the electric slow effect to enemies caught within its path.

[@mangox3111]

A cool idea could be a tier list for when every character was at their best

[@roscosity]

Personally I'd put Ballistic in B tier, he's a bit of a mixed bag His ult can be insane in the right context, with a full team all running SMGs or something, you just spray bullets non-stop, but he's very situational for sure His Q needs some tweaking, because it's really just not great for anything other than an additional 20 dmg lol Sling weapon as a passive is great though, love the idea

[@jakeisking4307]

As a mirage main im so happy with the switch to support

[@cubbian]

Same! Works with the passive. The support perk is insane so he's less of a "troll" pick now.

[@Wayf4rer]

Mirage being moved to support is awesome.

[@Cbsilva92]

It didn’t make sense where he was…now it does

[@Wayf4rer]

@@Cbsilva92 He was already a pretty fun legend to play but I think this season I'll be maining him again. Outside of masters and pred pretty much everyone gets bamboozled if you know what you're doing.

[@MANTO_DEAN]

@@Wayf4rerthis fr.

[@someonewhobreaths]

My boy really release the best frikin videos that make you 10 % better every damn week, RESPECT 🔥🔥

[@tritonparker3982]

Ballistic has to be an A And the fact that mirage is higher than him is crazy

[@pwvincil]

As a Rampart main, even with her passive, I still don't use LMG's and find it almost useless. Thank you for bringing that to light.

[@CrimsonNyx]

yeah... Lstar is nuts this season, but most else isn't even worth bothering with

[@hndsome]

Finally someone who’s actually ranking Ballistic logically💀He’s definitely usable but not great in most team comps.

[@Psynergic]

Used "they" for Bloodhound. 10/10 will sub.

[@The_RedVIII]

Let me just say this though, Revs tactical and passive are great. Especially the passive. Climing up walls silently and being able to crouch strafe fast are such underrated abilities. So I hope Respawn doesn't change that. The Ultimate though, a rework would be welcomed.

[@Shadowwflare]

As a mirage main, making mirage a support made him go from low C tier to easy A tier

[@KillerRomantic]

Crypto is my favorite but he is so hard to use when solo queuing. I have to carry the team and be the in game leader to get my teams to utilize his kit properly. If they gave his drone a better scan like the other recon legends, then he would be great.

[@Jay.D.Argonaut]

How about doing like vantages bat echo… Maybe he could ping the location he wants his drone to go instead of always having to manually use it himself (he could be able to do both) and to balance that out when he’s not manually controlling it and just pinging the location for the drone to go, maybe it can only go a specific range( shorter than when manually controlling it) then it will either just stop or recall itself. Just a thought u don’t necessarily have to read this even I don’t know if It sounds good but doing this would lesson the risk u take while in the drone, but also doesn’t give it too much of an advantage.

[@jcaponex]

yo u need a teammate?

[@kamehousedragon9661]

I just want a different modes for his drone one where the drone follows you and one where it scouts ahead

[@KillerRomantic]

@@Jay.D.Argonaut if that's the case then it would negate his ability to scan beacons and respond beacons remotely. It would take half of his kit away and it would also give his location away. His drone is too loud. It wouldn't make his remote drone remote.

[@KillerRomantic]

@@jcaponex add me. I work weird hours but my gamertag is Killer Romantic.

[@DvnFitness]

I disrespectfully disagree with Newcastle being in c tier. Bro should be A at least

[@cubbian]

I agree. They sleeping on him. He's definitely better than Gibby

[@lugohstsotofitness7817]

BRO Vantage can be so sick with movement and survival potential. Super huge movement and coordination outplay potential. Crazy underrated. Her sniper is stacked and being able to play call off of how many players are in the squad your viewing with her scan is crazy. If you want to buff her sniper lower the bullet cooldown by about 10 seconds. Do this in exchange with her extreme movement distance being dropped by a few meters while maybe lowering the buildup of her jump by .5 seconds. Use Alt Accels to get 2-3 bullets of her sniper automatically. Mark my words in Season 17 she will be picked more often as a survival legend.

[@nd-dv8px]

Dude, Evac tower actually is a big buff for Valk, as you can easily scout an area 3 times along with your ult.

[@jakubmustafa4998]

but she is useless when you have the Evac Tower and her backpack sucks

[@mikebaugh]

I see Octane being a very useful legend to pair with support legends now that everyone can craft banners and now that ranked has more emphasis on placement. Octane's can get away and craft banners now.

[@Rozzihorse]

I am octane main and personally i think that octane deserves better than d tier I think he could be c,b or even a tier if you use his abilities right, his passive basically allows you to play without having to carry heals and his jump pad can be good for movement if you place it right

[@eloctherandom1214]

13:48 PERFECT timing of the bass with valk shooting her rockets, and finger guns. That was satisfying my sir

[@burakbarlasatak6843]

for crypto the team needs to trust their crypto for his ultimate use time and listen him up when he asks for a jump pad / portal / zip / gravity thingy but as gameplay with drone if there is a bangalore it can provide the whole team a good scan within the smoke while enemies are not gonna see the drone , can take down the annoying caustic traps + watson stuff + that plague girl stuff , so overall with good team or premade I feel crypto is a A character , but saying again like you say with a good team =) lately I'm mostly playing vantage tho in solo q , its just so fun

[@ayojellowya]

god, your voice is so calming...

[@jjhahn8319]

Tier list on best weapons

[@jasonadersonwedion9874]

Ballistic is straight A pretty balanced

[@bigplaystanly]

He’s hella good C tier is flat out wrong

[@jasonadersonwedion9874]

@@bigplaystanly no how about you learn the game

[@ecp-commando2542]

You should do a video where you talk about the top 5 weapons for ballistic’s sling

[@heartz4rev]

I found revenant pretty easy for this season tbh , you got keep an eye on your surroundings with him another think you need to play him properly but I’d say he’d be in , b or c tier

[@1in400trillion]

I don’t really understand Alex cuz I play fn but I love playing it

[@aaronlangford6772]

Seer in my opinion is not S tier, too easy to dodge his tactical and the ult is too slow if you get third partied he’s basically useless which is all apex is lol

[@franecheverria8860]

ballistic or seer? what should i unlock first?

[@Kyle-yl7ow]

Fuse main myself, If I can’t guarantee a stick on another player using the clusters, nades, and ult to simply just herd players into your teammates or to leave cover is valuable in my opinion. The 3rd party ability to block and initiate a push hasn’t done me wrong yet. Fuse is highly under rated. All just opinions great video.

[@Ypoons_]

who should i play? I am kinda aggrasive love movement and on pc

[@_eastxlyric]

I will admit as a Crypto main Bloodhound is the better recon legend for information gathering if u like engaging in fights and getting kills but I still would choose Crypto for info gathering cuz there's nvr gonna be a time were u dont get 3rd partied during or after a fight in any match

[@9tailedkit_sune]

Honestlt, my biggest issue is how high crypto is and how low revenant is i feel like crypto is one of the worst as he has no movement, weapons or any abilities without using his drone and revenant does have some movement buffs, a second life and ability cancelling

[@YGNLightmusic]

Personally i main rampart exclusively and the why i play her is only cause that seh can camp and have high ability on building,placing wall everywhere to create an unbreakable castle with a destroying turret to defend will never get old for me.

[@XIII-TheBlackCat]

I think Crypto should be ranked a bit higher for the single fact that he can make an entire team turn away from your team, unload all their ammo at your drone before they get hit with the emp and highlights enemy positions all at once.

[@AustinsEdits]

New castle in C tier lmao bro.

[@edwaffle6917]

I'm not sure if I'd put Path in A tier. More like mid or upper B. The big hit box is a death wish and the tactical cooldown is really long. Plus the fact that path can be counter by Revenant is saying something. You also get a tonne of hitstun when starting a grapple so it often bugs or you get slowed down ridiculously. In my opinion he needs fortified. He's one of the biggest hit boxes in the game, his whole kit revolves around momentum, this one simple change would be a great bit of quality of life

[@kabeltelevizio]

Since no one is playing Rev, i think that's a non issue, but otherwise agreed, Path is B tier at best.

[@immortalsausage6120]

If you are silver then yeah path is b

[@imactuallyd34d]

An S tier ash coming from an ash main would be having 2-3 snares, and her ultimate comes back between mirage and octane time, that would be really really annoying to go against. Another good one would be shortening her portal, making it her tactical with a 45 second cool down after portal expires and her ultimate is a snare that sticks 3 people at once, disabling their abilities for a few seconds (kinda like getting scanned by seer) and doing 30 damage to shield, if they have it, and if not 20 to health

[@TheProphegy]

Agree 1000% on Ballistic. I knew day 1 he was mid. The one upside is if you carry a devotion/havoc/rampage, it automatically adds the hop-up/ charge up. Other than that he’s only viable in three stacks.

[@nathanschrock2402]

S: Seer, Bangalore, Loba, A: Pathfinder, Bloodhound, Horizon, Valkyrie, Catalyst, Wraith B: Watson, Caustic, Lifeline Gibraltar, Mad Maggie, Mirage C: Fuse, Newcastle, Crypto, Rampart, Ash, Ballistic D: Octane, Vantage F: Revenant

[@AllwaysGamingg]

I main Valk. I will say the evac towers pair really good with valk. I mean evac towers are easy to get so pretty much valk might as well be a recon I use evacs or my ult all the time just to see where everyone is

[@jameskiser4259]

I’ve been running rev this season. Can’t wait for his rework.

[@victorecheverria94]

Loving the bangy love!

[@that-guy213]

With ranked now favouring placement having a watson or caustic in ranked for end zone is almost essential

[@apexiw]

i still come to your channel to see how's the game going but sadly since i swtiched from ps4 to a xbox series X and the game doesn't have crossprogression yet... i just don't play anymore. any news about it? is literally the only game I wasn't able to past lol, OW, R6, Rocket league everything with cross but Apex no. such a letdown

[@Medic1hp]

I disagree with "No legend came out and was instantley meta". Lets not forget Launch Horizon. She had the highest pickrate for damn near the whole season til she got nerfed. Defenitely was meta for a bit. Instant Height from her Q and it came back every 5-6 seconds.

[@HelixNebuIa]

If we’re looking at ranked only, I feel like Caustic would be S Tier. All 3 maps are literally perfect for him.

[@derpishthemememerchant5838]

As a revenant main I thank you for your respectful criticism of revenant

[@yuiem_]

Just here for valk glad to hear she still viable

[@maximemariani4267]

Perfectly balanced atm

[@michaeljohnston643]

If crypto was allowed to run his drone 25 -50M ahead of him. With PIP/a drone view in the map box.

[@growingoaks]

“Vantage is D tier but she needs a buff AND a nerf” 😂 what is your logic here cuz that makes no sense. Why rate her so low if you think shes in such a good spot she doesnt need buffs?

[@maximus9300]

Personally, I disagree with caustic. The one legend that I would play 24/7 is caustic, but my god his gas is fucking terrible. It has more of a mental effect, you can see through it, it barely does damage, half the time caustics passive doesn’t work. Even when I go against a caustic I just play like the gas isn’t there and it works 80% of the time. It’s not punishing anymore at all. And especially when you have legends like catalyst who can literally rebuild doors, caustic in my opinion can’t compete with that. Rebuilding doors gives HUGE defense

[@30mph]

If Crypto could move the drone after you use the tap option like new castles barrier he would be so much better. It still baffles me he cant do this

[@creekpeektvu1238]

Should I buy mad Maggie or fuse

[@TruelySLX]

Can we just address the bias in the room here. WRAITH is D tier maybe C based off kit and ability her kit is trash. Time played and skill level an small hit box are the only things that set her apart.

[@hashimkhn2200]

when i use caustic i always throw down a gas thing and shot when reviving or healing and also if the enemy is in a build i throw his ultimate in the window

[@Theredeyedjedi]

You absolutely right about Revenant and the ult.

[@dougmawer8936]

Somewhat. He's not taking into consideration sideration the new mobile balloons though. They are insane combined with Rev totem

[@nonon6482]

@@dougmawer8936 there not Stop thinking rev ult great for long ass push, the more you are far from the totem the more one of your teammates will die without being anymore with the totem buff Rev ult are way better where the opps are very close

[@juicepouch1]

They need to give him something completely different, totem is just not good

[@arv7454]

Finally someone that put Ballistic in his place. You're the best

[@Cris4a1]

ballistic has been my main since he came out. VERY powerful and can definitely help especially when youre low on ammo and want to be aggressive.

[@commandoghost5883]

I don’t think vantage and octane are not that bad in my opinion again I base my opinion on how high you can improve the legends with skill but nice tier list

[@DiscipleOfYahusha]

i agree. it seems to be a lil bias there. i think it’s all about IQ.

[@Rozzihorse]

I would put octane at low b tier high c tier

[@jaymp4031]

I think this is all opinion based and based on when ppl js start to play the game cuz I play good with ash ion know what bro talking abt

[@olit4063]

You need to see the new rev ballistic play with the deployable jump tower

[@MangosInTrees]

I’ll check it out

[@YOUNGxCRAVEN]

It would make Rev pushes better

[@olit4063]

@YOUNGxCRAVEN he'll become viable then they change him 🤣

[@ogsharktooth9009]

As a loba main after this update I have found so many glitches with her braclet and it has killed me so many times but other then that I agree she is really strong

[@calumackerman2540]

Really? Never experienced any this season

[@xSweatyTryHard]

Rev-tane could be a problem this season paired with ballistic All three ults at the same time could be insane with a well coordinated team

[@TheLsp2011]

Maybe for pubs, but they might be completely useless for ranked. Ranked is going to be much more passive this season, people are more likely to be holding down areas. And even then, Rev-Tane is completely trash now. You can see that combo coming from across the map.

[@VLMNTI]

I was actually gonna harp on about this tier list being incredibly early but putting Octane in D tier and saying how he promotes stupid plays and pushes gives it a pass. I know some people are already gonna cry about "but Octane is fun". Fun does not equal useful, especially in ranked. Any legend and any player can make bad choices, but no other legend is drawn to poor decision making like Octane.

[@TheJackMouse]

Am I the only one who hears an Iphone "Your timer has gone off" sound in the backround of the music track and got psyched out by it

[@carlospairazaman01]

Ballistic with an re45 as a ultimate, i had win 1v3 with that pistol as 3rd weapon, its insane

[@DudeBroPring]

Ballistic is NOT c tier, he’s at least an A. lol. Octane is at least B. Why? Stacked with ballistic he’s a monster and I honestly feel most movement characters should never be below B. Octane played right is great. Yet, he has a high pick rate, so you are more likely to run into people who have no idea what to do and make dumb plays. Only gripes I really have. Obviously just my opinion though. 😁 great list other than that!

[@coolbrotherf127]

Generally, I've been playing a lot of Loba and Wraith depending on what the other players in my games pick. I'm pretty good at fighting and Wraith is my best legend for fighting but having Loba to play when we need a support legend is good.

[@Jay.D.Argonaut]

Fam I use Valk,Wattson and Loba… Love using her (Loba) but every time I pick her my Randoms always assume I’m gonna loot the whole game😭 When I ping a fight there still using my black market to loot🥲

[@mactallica9293]

The biggest problem with vantage is, her kit basically demands you pick up a sniper anyway, so her ult isn't that special

[@shaundees]

Don't need a sniper at all! With weapons holstered, she can ADS zoom. She basically has a set of 3x binoculars as her passive; no scope needed. Her passive also works on 2x bruiser scopes and above. The only thing that 'demands' a sniper would be the bullet drop indicator, but that is also present with her ultimate. IMO its best to avoid picking up snipers with her; only pick up short and medium range weapons so that you have all ranges covered.

[@ChaosTheoryOfficialTTV]

Mirage Deserves S tier

[@brianyugen]

What would be fun and kinda accurate would be to put Mirage in a unique single Class, called like Mirage Class

[@Occurredxz]

every crypto i get on my team just stays in their drone 24/7 and expect you to do everything else😂😂

[@Borgatiger]

Rapart can use the shields for mantle jump, can easily kill a entire squad with the ultimate. The Catalyst is a not that good, Caustic is better. Loba S-tier list? No New Castle A-tier list? Lame...

[@HamzehThaher-d4i]

I think Ballistic is A tier at least his ultimate can completely change the tide of battle and if you get a gun fight early on you don’t need any attachments for your gun or amo just throw it in the sling and your good, Ballistic’s ult and tac can easily let him out gun anyone

[@AskyuhmodaTT]

I get that it’s hard to keep bias out but Path not being a tier bc you think he’s 5% to big is wild with his buffs. Especially seeing the other A and S tiers lol

[@jinnofmaddnezz4006]

planning to get a character loba , caustic , valkarie , ash , catalyst ,who should i get first?

[@michaelpritchett709]

Loba or Catalyst. IMO

[@jinnofmaddnezz4006]

@@michaelpritchett709 loba it is, i am ammo hungry and always end up finishing 300 rounds per minute.

[@Bleakysyt]

For playing to have as many gun fights as possible ballistic is s tier until endgame where everyone is fully kitted. And getting to more endgames means more wins soooo his fast reloads make him useful for endgame to tbh. Balistic loba and seer would be pretty peak

[@martialbernier3282]

Watching you play ballistic wrong was painful his smart pistol is meh I agree his ultimate is busted if used correctly 1. Don't use burst fire or single shit weapons ie. Shotguns, prowler,nemi in the sling. Use a full auto something fast with a high ttk I use the re45 the hammer points and reloading in 1 sec or less means you can put some real hurt on people I pair it with an AR and sniper I generally run r3 longbow. But can sub out guns as need but my sling gun is almost always an r99 or re45 or the car. The potential dps is just to great. People forget that he's ult doesn't buff fire rate or so you need something that you can puts rounds downrange quickly to take full advantage of the reload speed. Other wise great video. Wanted to also add that thanks to your videos my average kdr went from 0.66 to a 2.5 you made my legends experience much more consistent and enjoyable so thank you very much.

[@matthewstuchell785]

Are you going to do a new weapon tier list with the new season?

[@TheProphegy]

I mostly agree with the list. Octane is definitely D tier I can’t stand having an Octane on my team. 😂 Vantage is better than D tier. Fuse is B. Crypto is an outlier, can be B-D tier depending on the player and their drone abilities.

[@darushkii]

That lifeline clip was sick

[@EpicCoolGuy21]

Octane in D-tier is absurd. He provides wayyy too much mobility to be so low. At least a C-tier placement.