The Betrayal by the Black Elite

In this episode of Days of Revolt host Chris Hedges continues his conversation with Dr. Cornel West to discuss the way in which the black prophetic tradition has been supplanted by black elitism and individualism.
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[@cholli4141]

"the problem is we have too many black people trying to love everyone except other black people." ....... excellent truth

[@dre9086]

yup

[@eolashshark4189]

you're 100% correct. Malcolm X asked the question-- who taught you to hate yourself

[@studentoflife385]

Too bad more Americans didn't understand the 'Struggle' he espoused, or give a dam, for that matter, for now it has truly come home to roost. Educate YOURSELVES to what's really going on both TO us and IN our name, can't stop it now, but informed people are harder to 'manage'. Peace and Love to all.

[@bobbye.wright4424]

cholli4141 right on brotha

[@MrSpandex1]

Black people are not that's lovable.

[@rickbar123]

Thank God for KZbin. I learn so much from these men.

[@Johnconno]

+rich b Yeah, they're definetely better than Shopping or Pornography.

[@micn.8763]

+jaye see definitely

[@THEATMOPROJEKT]

+jaye see i dunno...porn is pretty good. just kidding. sorry. i agree with you. its great to hear people like west and hedges having these talks. cuz not enough people DO actually discuss these things. cheers!

[@SV67943]

+andrew berenyi No need to apologize. There's no dichotomy between porn and research. It's like saying smartphones are better than bacon.

[@THEATMOPROJEKT]

haha!!! love it! cheers on you man!

[@johnkh1007]

Man this is why I respect Cornel West.

[@billiebillie678]

"I believe in forgiveness as a Christian but I don't believe in premature forgiveness"- Dr. West. hahahaha!

[@fUP420babe]

the death penalty solves nothing.

[@nkr3637]

+James Gray It also removes the burden from the rest of society for the maintenance of this person who forfeited their right to participate.

[@ray1411]

fUP420babe Go tell that to a prison warden with a black majority death row

[@tonyjohnson5728]

billiebillie And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for [a]all these thingsmust come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines,[b]pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. 8 All theseare the beginning of sorrows

[@tonyjohnson5728]

fUP420babe Only for those who believe in Death. Death, it's a lie perpetuated by Devils. And this is indeed the Devil's World poised with all the signs of death and destruction.

[@mareikeweitweg8222]

one of the smartest black intellectuals of our times. i hope he is being heard by the black community.

[@thagrandpubah]

Sadly, not at all. Most poor blacks can only can process shit like "Young Thug" lyrics and songs.

[@Cloudhopper4]

+thagrandpubah That is really insulting and completely inaccurate. Poor people of all races can process what Dr West is saying. The problem is that they rarely get to hear it. The mainstream media completely ignores him and you can only really find him online.

[@SagesseNoir]

+Mareike Weitweg He has his readership in the Black community. But he has lost some friends because of his critique of Obama.

[@SagesseNoir]

+thagrandpubah That is untrue. I came from the Black poor myself. The Black poor are not stupid.

[@fearElohim34]

That's what he was talking about, the black bourgeois. They've got the 'head ngga in charge" mentality.

[@colombiacrack88]

What makes cornel west so effective is that he works at an emotional, intellectual, and spiritual level. My brain was stimulated but when he said forgiveness is the highest form of love, I had to pause the video because I started crying, basically I broke down, and realizing how I refuse to forgive in my life and I had an epiphany and that’s why he’s so amazing because it’s like REAL self-help, substantive upliftment, intellectual stimulation, self-criticism, and structural and societal critique all in one. Cornel west is who Jordan Peterson wishes he was. Lol the more I listen to west the better I become as a person. I can’t describe it in words.

[@trynafindpeaceofmind1019]

This was a beautiful comment ❤️

[@cholli4141]

"can you forgive the oppressor while they are oppressing?"...... the simple answer should've been NO. smh

[@hollydelaney8900]

Forgiveness does not mean acceptance....

[@dsnutt1]

Matthew 5:44 . . . yes, forgiveness is commanded, but not acceptance or compliance

[@ramal8018]

The oppressor will continue 2 oppress as 2 maintain the class status... but IT'S time of rule is com'n 2 an END...reflective of the status of government and politics 2day

[@ramal8018]

Never Ever 4get the Trespasses against the Orginal People and Father 4give It 4 It Full well knows what It does and has done and continues 2 do🤨

[@ramal8018]

4TRUTH!!

[@ReactionShot]

Listening to these men speak is a master class in humanist compassion.

[@bicyclist2]

Amen!

[@tylerlynch2849]

More than humanist, but deeply religious. It's no coincidence that both Chris and Cornel come from a Christian tradition; Cornel being a minister and Chris a seminary graduate.

[@paullawson3983]

The Truth and Integrity have few Friends.

[@CrystalsandCandles]

Always liked Dr. West but I had no idea how brilliant he is.

[@STACKStoMAKE]

Cornell West is very very intelligent he's on of my role models

[@rrickarr]

and how has that caused you to become a better person?

[@eolashshark4189]

The black middle class is the butt of the joke now.

[@drone1028]

Can you elaborate on your comment. (I don't get the joke)

[@eolashshark4189]

+Kelly Smith thank you for getting what I was saying.

[@9175rock]

The middle class doesn't really exist period. The joke is on us all.

[@oscarhoward6505]

That is a nice way of putting it.

[@End-Result]

A learned man and pillar of knowledge. Dr West brings the love.

[@georgejensen7942]

Pillar of what knowledge is up for debate.

[@rhyno8644]

+George Jensen I highly doubt you are your cultures or anys champion for that this particular debate with this particular doctor on any level fair enough

[@rhyno8644]

+charles botha I don't care if he sleeps with all of them. To compare his intellectual capacity to say Sharpton would be a mistake. He's one of the great black debaters of his time. Dude is brilliant any way you slice it.

[@rhyno8644]

+charles botha So who do you think he should debate? Let's start with the gop

[@georgejensen7942]

+Ryan Carson he should start debating the african american culture, which opposed to every other ethnicity, has failed to adopt successful life strategies. mr smith peddles just a different version of victimhood. Those willing to pay him a cent are oblivious to the continued failures of african americans who refuse to assimilate and instead CHOOSE to demand special conditions, set asides and reparations, all the while claiming cultural differences. BS.

[@ramsheddy]

I loooove brother West. He is a man with integrity!

[@mineralt]

I lean conservative, but I love both of these guys because they are honest, passionate, and know how to make a point.

[@AbtinX]

Timothy Lee gets it

[@hezekiawhite8207]

It means nothing when people are still being murdered.

[@hezekiawhite8207]

Until then what are you prepared to do.

[@mervyngreene6687]

This has been the most bizarre thing about the Republican Party. In my experience, the majority of the members of communities of color tend to be economically and socially conservative. They are also more devoted to their faith. If the Republican Party had stuck to their 1980's talking points: fiscal conservatism, social conservatism (anti abortion, anti marriage equality, small federal government) etc., they would have had a much larger (and manageable) majority.

[@keemjohnson8863]

I love being black, I love my black brothas and Sista. I love y’all wholeheartedly! I swear I do...

[@lemostjoyousrenegade]

Thank you! 🙏🏽 I being love me and I love you too, Keem! 😘 🖤🌹

[@keemjohnson8863]

Samantha MacDoo either ur gonna take the love or not!! I ain’t trying convince no one just spreading love and positivity amongst my black ppl!

[@Ladybugg1126]

@@keemjohnson8863 that's an undercover white person don't fall for it lol

[@mrpower328]

I love them too but there is still no unity in the black community, still fighting, killing and disrespecting each other. I wish it was different

[@kejuwanoyoro8508]

If you love me brother you have to hate your natural enemies that put us in this condition. Until we do that then we will stay under their oppressive foot

[@55ella2007k]

I respect both of these individuals very much - they have been more involved in all of these struggles than many of us commenting here. This must be acknowledged, period. Chris Hedges, a couple of years ago, hit the nail on the head, when he lamented the Death of Liberal Class. This is not just happening here in the US, but essentially world-wide, and many of us non-latte consuming liberals, recognized this 25 years ago, when Reagan and Thatcher advanced their reactionary theories, and the liberal parties in America and in Europe fell right in line. All of these issues boil down to economics, and in particular, neo-liberal and laisse-faire economics, which is nothing less than legalized bribery. The worst policies in terms of social cohension and a sense of fairness were further dismantled via the Social Democrats in Germany and other European nations, after the fall of the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union was an entrenched and corrupt system, and nobody is longing to have it back. But it's collapse initiated a system equally bad, with the ultimate goal of destroying all social safety nets everywhere, and with the ultimate goal of financalizing the entirety of human experience for profit. I remember Dr. West campaigning for Obama during his first run for office, while Chris Hedges was sceptical from the start. We all had high hopes back then, after the Bush disaster years, but probably none of us could have predicted, that the Obama administration would essentially tow the corporate line at every turn, and expand the surveillance state even further. No amount of intellectual prowness is equipped to counter this force, and as Chris has mentioned many times before, what we are witnessing today is mere spectacle. As far as the human values these two embody - I agree - as well as their rejection of the New Atheist movement, which is far too sure and arrogant in my view. It is one thing to uphold science and new discoveries as something good, but it quite another, once science becomes corrupted by big money, and the promise for profit down the line. The problem with trying to get this message out is this: most of the media are financed by huge corporations, and while Real News and other outlets can be supported, the vast majority of people is being dumbed down day by day, smart-phone by smart-phone, which will eventually make a democracy impossible. A democracy cannot function with an ill-informed populace, or an entire generation focused on the latest consumer goods, just to get by or to apply for a job, while barely getting by. By fostering a climate of competition amongst the population (globally), huge corporations and the financial industry has been busy consolodating their power, creating huge mergers and monopolies. This is taking place globally. Not all of these powers agree with each other, thus, the only competition taking place at this stage is a quest for dominance over the last remaining resources. The actual populations have very little input, if at all. So, the reality will be continued resource wars, mass starvation, genocide and savage wars for sheer survival. Meanwhile, the utopians over at Silicon Valley, have given up on humanity alltogether and want to project their own twisted brains into the future - a few multi-billionaires trying to infest other planets with their ridiculous hubris. I am perfectly ok with being mortal, and I understand the quest of these two people here in this interview, as far as their ethics are concerned, although I do not share any ambitions for martyrdom in any sense, as Chris sometimes does. We are merely a spec in the universe and nothing more. While still around, we should try to alleviate the suffering of others, whenever possible...that is all. But we must also perhaps recognize, that there will be no conscious afterlife whatsoever, after we die, which is why we try to have compassion, while still alive and here.

[@VEGTheAgingHippie]

***** I can't add anything to that Ella. You said it all here. Man I wish more people were as perceptive as you.

[@allenkreymborg7492]

***** ITS ALL TIMED TO REAGAN ,THATCHER ! BERNIE ONLY HOPE !

[@nkr3637]

+55ella2007k You never had it so good as under President Bush. And those who didn't over-extend themselves with debt went pretty unscathed by the financial crash. The larceny that has been going on for the past 6 1/2 years with nary a mention from the White House is destroying your present AND your future. And if you think tearing down the system is going to make things better for you, please point to one single example anywhere, at any time, in the history of mankind that you think serves as a good example of empowering the people so we can use it as an alternative. When you've come to your dead end on that write me back and I'll be happy to explain why people like Cornell West (and maybe you) may have their hearts in the right place but their heads in the clouds. And even not knowing you, I suspect you might be better positioned than Dr. West in this regard.

[@nkr3637]

+ALLEN KREYMBORG Bernie Sanders became a Senator in Vermont by winning in the most expensive election in the history of the state. But he's certainly a better alternative than Hillary if you are a democrat.

[@micn.8763]

+NK R you are right up to a point-- RICH(over $200K/yr) people did do, and are doing,better with Bush OR Obama "at the helm" of the corporatocracy, since it IS a "system" BUILT to make money BETTER THAN ANYTHING ELSE-- think about this: : : America is specializing in SCAMS, RATHER than products or services, which is screwing us-- the U.S.-- over WORLDWIDE. As Brother Cornell is getting at, the World MUST institute sweeping changes, and global change-- incl climate change-- indicates that we must do it relatively quickly... this CAN be done, and the only thing stopping us-- humanity-- is inertia and fear. We HAVE the brainpower... we HAVE the people... we HAVE the energy... do we have the will??? [e-mail]

[@farhan00]

Thank you, honorable Cornel West, for mentioning Palestine. I support Black Liberation. May Allah give your people power.

[@avenewx3010]

And black Americans such as myself, are all pro Palestinian

[@masterofwhorers1827]

+SomeGuy and some white male Americans, like this one, are Pro Palestinian too.

[@SagesseNoir]

+SunFlowerProduction Me too.I see Palestinians as a persecuted people in the Middle East as we are a persecuted people in the USA.

[@aliohiraa]

+SomeGuy we don't forget the black slaving still going on in arab world we coming million times harder on Arabs and the saparation between arab and Islam

[@aliohiraa]

+Water Flows Israel will only stop the self defence once the the Arabs stop denying the Israely land and israely people israel is part of middle east and have every right tobe in the middle east

[@JamesOGant]

The real problem or challenge that people like Chris Hedges and Cornel West need to meet is to prove to people the power of the system vs the power of individual choice. Many people in the US have entirely bought into the idea that everyone is where they are in life by choice or if they are born in poverty then they should just work their way out of that. Every time I have an argument with somebody about these issues they always seem to hold to the idea that there is a just world and that Social Darwinism is reality. Ironically these same people have issues with The Theory of Evolution.

[@LA-kc7ev]

Exactly. The problem is that this set of beliefs has become part of the 'American' character, with all that means both home and abroad. It is enveloped in a a quasi-religion blended with patriotism.

[@LA-kc7ev]

King was right to predict, for this reason, a counter-revolution, not a revolution.

[@9175rock]

James Gant Right

[@andymonk9505]

I can't blame everything on Trump but he's a wealthy elite and his supporters are antagonist, his demonizing groups,Democrats, countries, bullying tactics are against everything I stand for such as clean environment, helping the poor, public education opportunities without extreme usury, military spending tax money for unnecessary wars, I am pro 2nd amendment and a Constitutionist, I also believe that separation of church and state is necessary but not to the point of taking the higher power out of the pledge of allegiance, I respect war veterans, the wars are a benefit to the elite bankers only. I don't think that we should have only a 2 party system that divides the country, I have to admit that I have always supported Democrat until the Clinton's. Traditional values went out the door when Kennedy,MLK,RFK, Malcolm X, everyone that stood for humanity were killed in the 60's.There was great progress in the 60's against corporate monster,the EPA, Consumer Protection, Unions were strong, Nixon was exposed but people seem to forget how many people died to bring better ethics in the workplace and civil liberties.Executive orders are allowing the system of checks and balances to become a dictator dream. The procedure for making a bill or passing a law is violated,Congress is the only entity allowed to declare war.Tariffs on trade,an oversupply of goods,banks contractions of money, brought our ancestors the great depression.People lost their homes, everything.That's what I don't understand why Trump's policy is an economic disaster repeatedly being swept under the rug.Homeless people are increasing every day and this economy is booming, yeah with sub standard wages.15$/ hr won't support a single person who works 40hrs/wk.not when average rent is $1000/mo.without utilities.Oil companies don't pay taxes, Trump tax cuts benefits the ogliarchs. The middle class, what's left of it takes the hit on pensions are all in critical status because of corporate greed, social security and safety nets for the poor are being threatened by the republican admin.

[@sha1841]

Their values are founded on white supremacy. They make the comparison in general based on a white vs a white man. Even the rich have am advantage but even a wealthy, educated black man like President Obama has to damn be perfect in every conceivable way in comparison to the current occupant of the White House.

[@aprylspage5852]

I agree!! 2019, we must break the status quo. A revolution is needed

[@andrewgoosdy3814]

Apryl’s Page you right about that

[@razdaexplorer9173]

We Need To Stop Calling & Allowing Ppl To Call Us Black. We're The Indigenous Aboriginal Americans. They Hve Effectively Perpetrated A Fraud On Us. Black Has No Standing In Law & As Long As We Allow This Beast System To Call Us Black We'll Always Lose. These So-Called Leaders Know Who We Are That's Why Malcolm & Martin Got Took Out. They Was Our Messengers Of Truth. Peace & Love My Sista.

[@randyjohnson9772]

When our true leader cant be CURRUPTed they murder with impunity

[@chicagoliightsx]

2020* we got next! #BernieSanders2020

[@thegivertarot8722]

And here we are ✊🏾

[@adrianosverko6601]

Cornel is amazing. Our American Hegel, our American Sartre, Krleža.

[@adrianosverko6601]

@Rosco P. Coltrane translation to standard English please?

[@adrianosverko6601]

@b- dubz I didn't know that about Hegel. Worth checking the others as to why the others are significant in global movements concerning systemic oppression.

[@taylordupree6065]

I have no forgiveness for oppression.... Point blank.

[@martinrooker5358]

Quit oppressing yourself then.POINT BLANK!

[@user-kv3ut6pv4b]

I use to think Dr. King was assassinated because he spoke ill of the Vietnam War, it was more so he talked about poor whites and blacks; coming together to fight and achieve economic prosperity. The few blacks then, who were suppose to lift the black masses up. Not because they were rich ; but because they were the smartest among us.

[@taylordupree6065]

Martin Rooker POINT BLANK do the world a favor and how about you oppress yourself? Let that marinate for a while rookie.

[@taylordupree6065]

J one of the reasons why he was assassinated

[@kejuwanoyoro8508]

Zero tolerance for our enemies !

[@coreycox2345]

Thank you for featuring Dr. West. What a compelling speaker.

[@louise-yo7kz]

He is a towering intellectual

[@coolsmooth9902]

Bottom line : "The love of money is the root of *ALL* evil".

[@seanjohn864]

Cornell west is brilliant

[@greenleaf1635]

I've had goosebumps from the beginning till the end of this conversation. Thank you so much Chris Hedges and Cornel West!

[@cheri238]

Cornel West for president 2024.

[@eveliomejias3750]

This is one of the best sit down talks I've ever seen. Talks about History, oppression, political policy's, war, peace, love and compassion, even to an oppressor. These two woke me up on whats really important in life. Although I never purposefully hated myself and others, I too was complacent, individualistic and blind to the suffering of others. Now I'm trying to place myself in a position to fight to good fight of integrity, while making a living for a quality of life I want us all to have. Thank you Mr West and Mr Hedges.

[@marcusbrockman3133]

One of greatest social activist minds. I wish he criticized discrimination at it's source, the monetary system.

[@TheGahta]

marcus brockman Yeah because exchanging goods for an accepted intermediary instead of bargaining products by themselves is discrimination at its core.... But hey, if you want to forego pieces of paper and metal for coconuts or whatever gets you off, more power to you, there is just a less hipster way to do this that wont make you look as bad

[@garyphillips7817]

You didn't say that last night when you were buying that rock

[@ThePayola123]

***** Marcus is most likely talking about the Federal Reserve Bank and Fractional Reserve Banking. The Federal Reserve Bank is not a part of the U.S. Constitution. As far as I know it's banking charter was not updated in 2013, a century after it was established. No doubt congressman Ron Paul (R-TX), did his best to hold the Federal Reserve bank accountable while he was in office. Unfortunately Ron Paul chose not to run again in 2014. The Federal Reserve was created by a very tiny group of extremely wealthy and powerful bankers over a century ago in 1913. Fractional Reserve banking on the other hand is basically like printing money out of nothing with little or no collateral to back it up. The U.S. dollar as it stands today, has nothing backing it up besides a bloated military budget and a humongous un-payable debt. With all this in mind coconut shells and glass beads have more intrinsic value than the worthless U.S. dollar which has nothing backing it. Money is fine, but it would be best, if there was something backing it up, otherwise it's just funny money, as in the game of Monopoly. If you want true early capitalism you would need to go back to 17th century England and Holland. These are the places where modern capitalism was practiced in its nascent form. The system that's pervasive in the U.S. today as Chris Hedges explains is basically inverted totalitarianism. Listen to Chris Hedge's talks and then re-listen to his message, eventually his message will sink in.

[@micn.8763]

+Payhole Everdouche there is, in theory, something backing it: goods and services produced in the United States, which is then all GUESSED at by the "wizards of money" at the Fed ...they're a SCAM, "selling" cash to banks, etc., and all at "INTEREST", of course, xept for now, when the " system " is so screwed up they (the Fed) HAVE to sell it at even money just to keep the "system" GOING

[@micn.8763]

got that right, Man, Brother Cornel gets a lot of crap cause he speaks for the base, he looks a little crazy but if you want to talk about brains AND morality the WestMan is the real deal....

[@SARAI7HJ]

This has been showing up as suggested for me to view everyday for the past month. Oh my gosh. I'm glad I finally listened to this. It's so on point.

[@bicyclist2]

These two are some of the most important intellectuals of our time. We must listen and heed their warnings. I didn't know much about Cornel West untill watching this. I've been a big Chris Hedges fan for many years. I hope many more people see this. Thank you.

[@SharkMinnow]

There's not many people who can make a brilliant man like Chris hedges just sit and listen for the most part....love Dr. West. - from China

[@survivormary1126]

You ROCK Cornel West. Thank you for being upstanding and endorsing Bernie Sanders. We can win. Love how you said there are more of us in the making. DAMN STRAIGHT!!! #bernieorbust #stillsanders #blacklivesmatter #vivabernie #latinosforbernie #muslimsforbernie #womenforbernie #usnotme #bernie2016

[@mikeltruss9695]

What a great conversation.

[@Djsoulbro]

God bless Cornel West. His knowledge brings me to tears. I did think there were any more black voices like his. He speaks the truth all the time, not only when it's beneficial for a particular moment. "A true warrior"

[@Djsoulbro]

Correction: I did not think there were any more voices like his voice

[@BigMathis]

Have anyone here ever heard of Thomas Sowell or Walter E. Williams?

[@tyrant_tarantula]

Mr.Thomas Sowell is the truth!

[@rrickarr]

Thomas Sowell is very precise on some things yet on many others he is totally clueless. Just because he serves your agenda.....

[@cinnireseisri]

When these two get together there is always a good show. Thank you for sharing.

[@sarawagoner9254]

Two of my favorite people!

[@Joey---]

Incredible Interview! I could listen to those two all day long. So much wisdom in one room.

[@viyahta]

Awesome conversation. Glad to be a part of the struggle as well!!!

[@dietrichcusseaux2756]

One of the realest, deepest and conscious discussions I missed but glad to see now 4 years later!

[@AccentYouLovingheart]

One thing is absolutely clear is the playing field is not level.SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS!

[@mrsbusiness1]

And We All Know who "THEY" are. Excellent discussion Bridges and West.

[@lbthingsstuffmore9513]

Thank you for putting this interview out there!

[@patriciagriffin1505]

It is such a pleasure to hear 2infamous men in this type discussion. I want to thank you both!

[@Lukeeiiee]

please, stop using the green screen.

[@craigrobb8197]

that has to be my top 5 hegdes interviews

[@trader8CTA]

Great Interview!! - thank you to both of you :)

[@seasidescott]

Chris Hedges looks at Dr West with such amazing love... I ask myself if I've ever truly loved.

[@anthonyserocco2774]

Chris Hedges should co-host The Real News.

[@ThePayola123]

Anthony Serocco He's probably too busy writing for Truth dig You can find his writings there. He's a writer and has a face made for radio broadcasting, or pod-casting. Sorry Chris, we love you a whole bunch.!

[@murtsworld666]

Anthony Serocco Hey . Chris Hedges will be hosting a show called " Into the abyss " on the real news . Coming soon . All the best.

[@Travilss]

Great video

[@academyvsart]

"They may point to a Martin Luther King Jr every January, but Martin Luther King Jr of 1965 or 1966 or 1968 has no place in how they go about living their lives, engaging in their politics." Cornell was spittin fire from 4:03 - 5:00

[@killyourtelllievision]

ONLY when the power of love and humanity overcomes the love of power and indifference will the world know peace everywhere. Good interviews and I encourage anyone to watch Part ONE as well

[@jirenthegray]

And this is why as a black man I am a moderate. I’m not no extreme conservative or liberal. Both sides are equally detrimental to the black community and both supports white supremacy.

[@yahdig.solid_leonhard3814]

I see Cornel West, I click !!

[@AWildBard]

Cornel West is able to see and yet remain uplifted and be uplifting at all times. Totally amazing.

[@cookiebaranek5966]

I have learned more from the honorable Dr West then I have learned in all my years in school. I believe that if we truly want to educate our children, his talks and interviews should be shown in our schools and taught as curriculum. And I am talking High School on up.

[@michaelbraden9805]

cookie baranek white education you will learn nothing but lies

[@xBloodXGusherx]

Interesting interview.

[@ericlawrence9060]

Two of the very greatest men alive. I love both of them and their work.

[@IanMahetiMbano]

Thank you to Chris and Dr West, l have never heard issues crystallised in such a way.

[@OfficialJPryde]

This was amazing and timely for me to hear.

[@arimagoo4687]

The Achilles' heel is the...pocketbook ! It has worked before !

[@modern_method]

Read: The Isis (Yssis) Papers: The Keys to the Colors by Frances Welsing

[@nooksbishop8791]

That book really makes everything clear, everyone should read it I think. Wouldn't be talking about classes, missing the entire point. I also like Amos Wilson's stuff

[@fredschwentafsky2641]

What a fantastic discussion. So good for the heart.

[@jariseaton3307]

...Two Giants of the Intellectual and Activism consciousness of our time.. West And Hedges.. Bless up

[@BradfordCarter]

No link to the first part in the synopsis? FFS, Real News.

[@plemyk]

***** multimedia.telesurtv.net/web/telesur/#!en/video/days-of-revolt-423283

[@allenkreymborg7492]

HOOK UP WITH BERNIE , HE NEEDS YOU , PEOPLE !

[@micn.8763]

exactly right!!

[@masterofwhorers1827]

+ALLEN KREYMBORG Bernie is just another lesser of two evils. You fell for the "hope" in 2008 too, huh? We need to work towards something else not so money focused as a whole as the righteous society we could have and will be And really how has campiagn finance reform gone ever? If I remember correctly, wasn't that an Obama promise too, like Gitmo and Immigration reform? We've seen the "truth" of those promises. The late Grace lee Boggs had it right in Detroit. Maybe we don't need the ones on top in all senses, gov. bussiness, jails, police etc. we can take care of our own if we realize that "small is beautiful" and take care of OUR communities! Whoever they may be. That homeless drug addict is your neighbor and might just need an ear to get back to making art or whatever, not a blight or something to be NIMBY'ed away. We can eat well, laugh often and think more, if you really trully want it.

[@MrDarkglue]

+ALLEN KREYMBORG Im a little late to this but as you may know by now he did hook up with Bernie.

[@brettgleason3749]

Totally awesome, I learn so much from these vids... thank u guys... I had noo clue, I feel awakened

[@domingodeanda233]

So much has been happening, thanks for the data.

[@meatmoneymilkmonogamyequal5583]

NOT RADICAL ENOUGH!! Where is Peter Jospeh, The venus project. We need to eliminate the monetary system work and the pay to live paradigm. We have the technology to automate most jobs and educate the masses about living in a paradigm without money.

[@DumbDare]

your like a 1,000 years ahead of yourself pal

[@thenowchurch6419]

4M. People would not know what to do with themselves. The power brokers enjoy having the masses work like slaves and beg to keep their measly jobs. The masses are not self-disciplined and self-motivated enough to create a useful satisfying life for themselves outside of that paradigm, as yet. With the right training on life , humanity , spirituality, the arts and festival culture, a new paradigm can be put in place, eventually.

[@meatmoneymilkmonogamyequal5583]

nein! ich bin nicht einverstanden.

[@christianschwalbach7561]

Educate, yea. But steps need to be taken in order.

[@sealie15]

Civil "rights" wasn't a political success either.

[@bobbye.wright4424]

sealie15 exactly true

[@9175rock]

sealie15 Civil Rights never existed.

[@haydnwilson1814]

What they gave was consumer rights. Civil,equal or human rights ain't no where in sight. Just consume and help maintaine this oppressive system.

[@obfusk8_]

The intro is a powerful.....tied to ruthless ambition rather than moral integrity

[@tussilein2012]

thank you, TRN, excelent as always! Thank Chris HEdges and Dr. Cornel West

[@shahinnowee9780]

He's the only true CHRISTIAN I had a pleasure to know, and love

[@learnedhand7647]

I hate saying this, because I'm afraid of being misinterpreted. I feel the the crux of the problem of injustice and wealth inequality is culture. Take brother West's argument about black elites who are turning their backs on their brothers and sisters in poor communities. I feel that they are turning their backs, not necessarily because they don't care, but because they want to distance themselves from that culture. Yes you could say both statements are the same, but there is a distinction. By nature when we don't like something, we try to do our best to distance ourselves from those problems. Trying to change things takes effort and requires an extra will that most people don't naturally use. So how do we stop or change gang violence? How do we change the behaviors of 16th St Gang? The McCarthyists would say lock them up. I say we created the 16th st gang because we locked them up, by locking them up we actually perpetuate violent gang culture. I say turn the prisons into rehabilitation centers teaching trade skills, English, literature, mathematics, sciences. One could say that some prisons already do that, which is true, but not all of them and some are worse than most. Changing that may take an act of legislation. Start a Gang that allows members to remain in their gang, but work together on legal defense and outward mobility, with only one rule and that's that they will try to do something good that makes things better for everybody. Or something simple like that, something that allows them to grow or evolve with roots aimed at a more positive outlook. We also need to find a way to change the culture of white supremacists. I always start to think that their archaic culture will go the way of the dinosaurs, and every time i think that they have gone away they raise their ugly head and show that they have been there the whole time. They are in our courthouses and our police forces and that is very dangerous. So what mechanisms do you use to change the idea of a culture that if you don't like something you step on it?

[@donell360]

Learned Hand Carter G Woodson wrote about the same thing in the 1930's so it's not about the culture

[@learnedhand7647]

donell360​​ when I try to find an answer to WEB Dubois' infamous question, "how shall Integrity face oppression?" I first find myself questioning the nature of man. In that I find that we are all malleable, each and everyone of us is capable of such good deeds that even angels would weep. Yet just as capable of acts that would make demons shudder in fear. But part of what drives us is the culture that we choose to surround ourselves in or remove ourselves from. We should try to learn from other cultures as a way of broadening our perspective on our path in trying to better ourselves. But, how do you stop a white supremacist from being a white supremacist? Part of me feels that these people are broken, that they lack empathy, suffer from irrationally inflated ego, and refuse to see the world outside their limited self restrained perspective. However, we find these traits in multiple groups. I have also personally witnessed people who were originally racist and closed minded become welcoming to people of all races. Sometimes it takes a tragedy other times it's as simple as an introduction from a close friend, and a few jokes. I realise that people don't just change the way that they think over night, but I think that culture plants seeds in the way that we think.

[@thenowchurch6419]

Mass Education on a God concept that is panentheistic is critical. The essential spirituality found throughout Africa as well as the philosophy of G.W. Hegel show that all peoples come from one cosmic Source and that all conflicts and polarizations are part of the struggle that prepares us for a united Humanity eventually. Materialism is essentially the enemy that motivates white culture to try and crush that which it fears. Great ideas about reform in the prison system by the way.

[@learnedhand7647]

thenowchurch Meh, Mathematics is the true language and religion, without it, none would exist, you'd just have psychology. Our students should be taught mathematics with the Austrian Pythagorean - Kepler model with the Icelandic Athletic program, a British literature program, and a Germanic trades skill program. Religion should be treated as sacred and kept at home. In doing this we would be producing Tesla's, Schauberger's, Ben Franklin's, and Michael Jordan's by the boat load.

[@thenowchurch6419]

Learned Hand I did not say Religion. I was referring to an outlook that is open, inclusive and sees everything in the cosmos as part of one continuum. This is found in Shamanism and most ancient tribal spiritual systems. Modern physics (Quantum Mechanics and String Theory) tends to support this Oneness paradigm and is indeed based on Math. It is not a matter of spirituality vs mathematics but how both are part of one reality, at different levels and applications. We have to get out of Black and White, all or nothing thinking and into and-or-maybe logic. Apart from your omission of Hegel and Zazen meditation (proper breathing and posture are essential for successful life), I approve of your ideas. Peace.

[@zeeeOgre]

This is exceptional. Words from the heart and soul.

[@karync.6707]

Ah, truth. So elusive and so beautiful. Thanks for posting this. Bern ON!

[@SteveNorquist]

+Raven Romera Didn't catch where they talked about "Berning on." Hedges, who is voting for Jill Stein for president, is far less impressed with Sanders than West is, and Hillary Clinton vs. Donald Trump is the "political extravaganza" that will actually decide who gets the nuclear football, anyway. Or, the keys to the dying empire, if you prefer.

[@MesmerGW2]

You don't have to be religious to appreciate the morals of Jesus.

[@nkr3637]

+MesmerGW2 But you have to read the Bible to understand them.

[@nkr3637]

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[@nkr3637]

***** Yawn...

[@kimmblycrumley5847]

no I am not religious at all but I believe in god

[@nkr3637]

Kimmbly Crumley Which one? There are so many.

[@MrRsj84]

Ironically, Cornel West is just as much apart of the problem himself. 😤

[@ray1411]

r s j How is he a part of the problem? Oh, I get it. Talking about the reality of race is a problem itself, huh?

[@MelissaBrownapt215]

If talking about a problem causes it, then not talking about it makes it go away. So, if i ignore that my child is a violent bully, he won't be a violent bully. If I pretend that my boss doesn't rub up against me inappropriately, he will stop. If I act like I don't notice feces on the street, it won't stink. Eff that. It's so obviously BS.

[@mikefatah]

That was amazing! Thank you.

[@heather-vs9qe]

Thanks Chris for listening with great dialogue with Cornel. We have come a long way 😊

[@stephanelauzon15]

to me there is no black community its a African American Nation with culture ,language,spirituality,music ,history etc..... a nation within a nation, different than the rulers of these countries who are there to preserve the system not the people times have changed these issues must be resolved they havent but before the African Nation there must absolutly the recognition of the FIRST NATIONS here before Europeens came what we live in is a paternalistic w.a.s.p attitude

[@SteveNorquist]

+stephane lauzon Indigenous people are invisible to almost everyone. It's good to hear Hedges (or anyone) talking about Pine Ridge, but the voices calling for the untrademarkable Washington NFL team to change its name fall on deaf ears, especially the two attached to Daniel Snyder's head.

[@bobbye.wright4424]

stephane lauzon right on sista

[@airmark02]

All well and good Stephane Lauzon ~ but if your " Race Based " cultural theory were absolutely correct then the Nations of Sub Saharan Africa continent would be the perfect examples of social & economic equality. But unfortunately a majority of those country's have Native African led government's that are completely corrupt and dysfunctional. I wish the fact were different and we could lay the blame on skin color when in reality it is always a problem of money, power & class. I think Dr. West makes this very clear in this interview and you may want to give it another listen. ~ good luck

[@JaIch9999]

Do all black Americans belong to that nation within the nation?

[@furdfelmer4359]

Good points made in this conversation, and real truth. I still have a problem with any person that would try to bring religion into the arena of solving social ills. Take any religions so called "moral compass", out of the solution, and I'm on board. I'm not saying Dr.West is preaching, just that we need to get away from the notion that religion's ideology is the ONLY path for morality. It is not.

[@mycattitude]

+Furd Felmer I agree. It's not the only path, but at its best it is A path. I respect secular humanism, the morals are just as sound. I may be christian, but growing up in my faith and knowledge that the Bible is not perfect or to be read literally, I became a universalist, so I'm not the usual "my sky god is better than your sky god" type.

[@furdfelmer4359]

mycattitude You and many, many other christians with the same mindset, are NOT what us, non "believers" object to.You use your brain as it should be used. Our problem is with the constant hypocrisy and lies that come from the "extreme FAKE christians" that preach, hate in all forms, under the guise of doctrine. My hope is that more like yourself will "come out" and expose these fake crstians and expose them for their hateful message.That goes for ALL religion.. Afterall, the message is about peace, tolerance and understanding, not the agendas of preachers.

[@mycattitude]

Hey, thanks. That was a really positive message to wake up to. Yes, I do/have "come out" of my universalist closet and I'm very vocal. I have no problem opening up a can of well deserved woop-ass against the blindly dogmatic, or calmly reasoning w/ someone to show them a more excellent way.

[@doubleugly1594]

MY GOD I love Cornell West... Hes somehow deadly serious while also creating such an atmosphere of respect and hope.. Truly a prophetic voice in a beleaguered crowd of hopeless idiocy.

[@brainsareus]

Chris & Cornell are two of the greatest out there, today!!

[@davedane7067]

Like Booker T Washington so eloquently said, "crabs in a barrel".

[@9175rock]

Who put the crabs in a barrel? What happens to a crabs when taken out of their natural habitat? What would have happened if the crab had not been interrupted? What do crabs do in their natural habitat? And Are crabs really pulling each other down, in the barrel?

[@johnplain1546]

NAACP annual national meeting us sponsored by ford chevy McDonalds Walmart etc. They bought it.

[@Charles-tt3dr]

The NAACP was founded by White Jews so it never a Pro-Black organization.

[@diegomontana7075]

EXCELLENT interview,, My god!!! Thank you Chris!! Thank youoooooooo

[@puravida5683]

My advice is...think outside the box! I bought a beachfront home in Central America, which I could not afford to buy in Florida or California. I only face racism when I return to the U.S. to visit family and friends. As I travel throughout Central and South America, I am amazed that more people of color have not done what non-color people have done. That being.....moving to a non-racist and economically cheaper country for wealth building. Truth be told, I can only stay in the U.S. on visits for less than 10 days because of racism, the police state, negative news broadcasting, consumerism 24/7, and the possibility I may get shot by police or criminals.

[@whawkins8636]

West says some good stuff but warped on other issues

[@Shucksofficial]

I've been an English major but I still didn't really understand what he was saying. I wish I knew more big words so I could comprehend his full message

[@neutrallense757]

Shucks you should read , and read to get the message

[@TheRedstar212]

Lmao. I'm not no major but understand him xD

[@edthewave]

Is English your native language? Dr. West does not use too many big words in this. What you ought to do is read more. Get off KZbin. Go to a public library and pick up some books. Buy a dictionary and thesaurus and a notepad. Every time you encounter a word you do not understand, write it down. After finishing the chapter/paragraph, look up the word and write down the word and definition in your notepad. If you do this with everything you read, your vocabulary will grow. Do not be afraid of difficult books or essays. Your reading skill will rise to meet the challenge of the text. Your knowledge and understanding of language will grow. Here are some helpful resources: "How to Read a Book: The Classic Guide to Intelligent Reading" by Mortimer J. Adler, Charles Van Doren "How to Read and Why" by Harold Bloom

[@JosephNordenbrockartistraction]

Increasing your vocabulary through the years is one of the few joys of getting older. Christopher Hitchens inspired many intelligent people to look up words too and I miss him.

[@MrStlover99]

Don't listen to these idiots.

[@luckysmom4302]

When 2 brilliant minds come together...what a great interview.

[@tuutts39]

Thank you for this video.

[@bicyclexx7]

he sounds good at the beginning then Mr West will lead you astray

[@Rubylove48]

I love these two men so much. Can’t believe this just popped up on KZbin after five years. Late.

[@prestigiouswisdom1283]

I really enjoyed watching Dr. West in this discussion very insightful and fulling to know that we have season men and women to speak on the injustice of black people and communities that also involves own.

[@wadegoodwin6773]

Two extraordinary minds. Wade Goodwin, The FAIR Digest, South Africa

[@mrbigdaddyjoe4889]

I respect this man so much he is a courageous Man that will not sell-out. Being a Brown man it's breaks my heart that we have nothing close to this great man. Brown people relate to the Black struggle. It's not just a Black but also Brown Struggle. Black and Brown Solidarity is the only way to break the system that continues to oppress us.

[@babycakes2077]

Holy god, thank you both! 🙏🏽❤️🤘🏽

[@blueoak116]

A great discussion. Thoughtful and enlightening. Thanks.

[@ijoey44]

These are the only two honest and intelligent people you can find now days.