The Better Budget Option? - Lenovo Legion 5i 2024 ( Gen 9 ) Review

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@awwk8452 3 ай бұрын

this is one of the only good reviews of this laptop I can find, and less than 100 likes? nah man you deserve hundreds of thousands, amazing content. Super professional. On a seperate note, yeah I love the keyboard on my 5i 24 model. I got the 4070 and 32gb RAM I9 version and it DUMPS heat out the back really well.

@MsSoldadoRaso 3 ай бұрын

that cpu is overkill

@awwk8452 Ай бұрын

@@MsSoldadoRaso too bad I don't give a shit 😂

@HA-020 12 күн бұрын

I ordered the legion 5 pro w/ Ryzen 9 7945 and RTX 4070, it’s going to arrive on Monday I’m hyped.

@alexanderzanebuenavista 2 ай бұрын

You're underrated my guy. Your videos' so in depth that you're showing us how does it feel/look to actually own the laptop .. and ofc what to expect from it; Which is what I'm looking for. Thanks to you I've decided to purchase this model but with a 240hz screen. Expecting it to arrive this July 15-17 and will immediately upgrade it to 64gb ram and throw in 1tb stick of ssd.

@shirishx01 2 күн бұрын

How is it going

@Feilerthefox 3 ай бұрын

Thank you for the review! I was between this and the 5i Pro, finally decided for this in the i9 version. The only real difference for me (besides the color that I asume in this is more "office friendly") was the screen: 500nits P3 in the Pro and 350nits sRGB in the i5. I work on grading on an external 4K BenQ screen, so it didn´t make those 200 USD diference. Bought an additional 2TB SSD with that money!

@tejasbhandari24 3 ай бұрын

I really feel sorry for you not getting enough views 😢. Your videos are genuinely informative unlike others filled with synthetic benchmarks and reading spec sheets 😩. Although you should add productivity tests also like video editing and photo editing . I would suggest you to open one more KZbin channel bcz this channel almost feels like shadow banned . Once again ❤ your videos

@TechGuyBeau 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback, and the well wishing. I’m happy to just help people on KZbin. Even if my views are lower, I hope that everyone who watches take something useful from it

@awesome1330 3 ай бұрын

@@TechGuyBeau Thank You for being so devoted to us , I hope you reach 1M Subs soon

@Obatala_Vibez Ай бұрын

Let him cook! I just found him

@tumblevid Ай бұрын

Guy didn't tell about 230 Watt charger limitations vs 300 watt charger that comes with pro 5i. Very disappointed

@phuongduybui5392 3 ай бұрын

Always nice to see a nice review of a nice machine.

@RusyaidiDzulkifli 3 ай бұрын

Just got this laptop, man it's hot even in idle, I can feel the heat seeping out through the keyboard

@TechGuyBeau 2 ай бұрын

Intel can run pretty hot yeah. What CPU? Consider using balanced mode

@dogechannel872 2 ай бұрын

do you use a cooling pad?

@mylandann816 6 күн бұрын

I have the same model but don't feel such heat, only warmth but once running chrome which opens 20 processes at once.... I believe lowering the refresh rate when you don't want it high plus quiet mode works to reduce cpu work....

@mylandann816 6 күн бұрын

@@TechGuyBeauIsn't quite mode a little better or no difference ?

@BearShepherd 6 күн бұрын

Check Nihimic process ;)

@neotokyo98 3 ай бұрын

how will this and ryzen 8845hs compare could you do a comparison in real world tests like video rendering and all

@ytnimal 3 ай бұрын

@AbhishekA-xv3gh 3 ай бұрын

@mihirojha4475 3 ай бұрын

This would probably be slightly (like 2-5% better) in performance while the Ryzen HS shines in power efficiency. You can get around 8+ hours of battery life from the Ryzen on basic tasks, you definitely won't get anywhere near as much on this Intel one even on the most basic of tasks.

@4kbrazil Ай бұрын

Maybe some Legion 5 vs Legion 5 PRO comparison video?

@トリンドル佐藤 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for the great review!!!! from Japan

@TechGuyBeau 2 ай бұрын

Thanks. And welcome

@ent.abhishek3941 2 ай бұрын

That is something Called Review👍 great💯

@philipphollmann6022 Ай бұрын

What I love about this device is the generous cooling with the big fans. I love that they did not make the chassis thinner. It is neither too thick nor too thin. What prevents me from buying is the terrible fan control . Custom Mode does not let you lower the fan speed under load. You can only increase it and make it even louder than it already is. In Performance Mode the fans get much too loud although the gpu temperature is over 12°C below nvidia thermal limit of 87°C. In Balanced they limit the gpu to 80 watts although the temperature is even 20°C under the limit! I don't understand why they throttle the gpu regardless of its temperature. The fans could be quieter AND the performance better. Sadly we cannot fix this, because Custom Mode does not allow to lower the fan speed. Sadly, it also does not work with community projects like legion fan control which enabled full fan control.

@egsy2220 Ай бұрын

But in the specifications (legion slim gen 9) it says that the tdp of the gpu is 140w, where can I find the information you say? I'm worried

@philipphollmann6022 Ай бұрын

@@egsy2220 In Performance Mode, you get the full TDP, but also very loud fans. If you are fine with being forced to wear headphones, you are good to go. On Balanced Mode, Lenovo caps the graphics card to 80 watts.

@EeJoKi 6 сағат бұрын

Hi! 👋 Can you fix the thumbnail because it is missing the copilot key? 👏👀

@sumaidshafi2236 Ай бұрын

Just came across your channel. Really helpful, clear and concise reviews. Keep up the good work. Also, what would you suggest between this and the slim 5 model?

@TechGuyBeau Ай бұрын

Price difference? I prefer AMD CPUs due to better thermals and battery life. But it’s going to come down to price and specs

@sumaidshafi2236 Ай бұрын

@@TechGuyBeau Specs are identical - 4060, 16gb ram, 1tb ssd, 240hz screen. There is just a 10 USD price difference between the two. I would prefer one with the better thermals comparative to performance.

@sahaypushkar Ай бұрын

my go to guy for laptop reviews.

@TechGuyBeau Ай бұрын

Hey thanks. I’m happy you are here to watch :)

@JamesGadbury 3 ай бұрын

I've just ordered an Ideapad Pro 5 14" gen 9 with AMD 8845HS, 32GB, 1TB. I loved your review on the Chinese import last month, so I hope the sku comes to North America. Fortunately, it is available in the UK & Europe from the regional Lenovo stores. I know this is a different class / category of laptop, but how does this laptop compare, for more creative/artistic lines of work? Perhaps I'm seeking reassurance for my purchase (!) but I don't quite understand what this laptop offers other than a superior gaming performance. The value of the latest Ideapad Pro 5 seems too good to be true - perhaps that's why I'm having doubts or questioning it. Love your videos and channel btw. I hope it brings you enjoyment & positivity to your life, too.

@TechGuyBeau 3 ай бұрын

If you need dedicated graphics get one of these, if you don’t: the Ideapad is a S tier laptop

@RusyaidiDzulkifli 3 ай бұрын

@TechGuyBeau ideapad 5 pro 16 has a 4050 version so that's a pretty good option

@JamesGadbury 3 ай бұрын

@@TechGuyBeau thanks gents. I prefer the smaller form factor and design of the 14" over 16". Think the screen is better, too? OLED 👍 I'll shut up now and just be happy with what I've got 😅 It's neverending, trying to maximise specs and requirements to budget with rapidly changing technology!

@RusyaidiDzulkifli 3 ай бұрын

@@JamesGadbury good for you if you're happy with your choice 😉, but just as an fyi, the 16 inch ideapad also got an oled screen option

@JamesGadbury 3 ай бұрын

@@RusyaidiDzulkifli thanks for sharing the useful info 👍

@thatsAkeepernow 14 күн бұрын

GREAT REVIEW, IS THIS 4060 OR 4070? I SEE COSTCO IS SELLING THIS WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THEIR PRICE? I AM CANADIAN TOO.

@joeg2jerry20 2 ай бұрын

Mine should come next week then, great review dude!

@TzufFamilyBand 25 күн бұрын

Thanks for such a good video. Can you explain further what advantages this has over the pro model (with same specs). I’m concerned about all the reviews saying it’s ver loud and hot. What if used for light video editing, can the settings be changed so that it runs not too hot or loud? Or would getting an i5 13th gen procceser help make it not so loud an hot? Also, there’s a 500nit screen version refurbished from levonovo for a great deal right now. Is there any negative points of having the 500 nit screen? I have in general sensitive eyes. Can the 500 screen still be easily dimmed down for most uses to the level of a 350 screen when wanted?

@TechGuyBeau 24 күн бұрын

If you are trying to get away from heat and noise, you want to go to an AMD model. For example the five slim AMD will run very cool, and have better battery life

@StringsofHope-n8d 23 күн бұрын

Thanks bro for replying to my comments 🙏. The only amd Lenovos I’m finding here are the ideapad which I’m concerned might run hotter/louder than the legion since they’re kind of lower tier maybe or not designed for video editing as much as the legion ? Are you concerned with the 14th gen intel chips? I’ve been running into alot of talk on that online

@samiurkhan4362 4 күн бұрын

Got the same but with i9 14 and 4070.

@HotshotArafath Күн бұрын

Have you tried it on video editing? And how is the cooling?

@samiurkhan4362 Күн бұрын

@HotshotArafath didn't try for video editing. About cooling tho I had a friend looking at the hwmonitor while I played space marine 2 on high/ultra at 2k dlss balanced/quality. Fps tended to be 60+, but sometimes, when there were lots of enemies, it came around 54ish. Framegen would have helped. I used the OC mode. The temp for gpu seemed to be below 80 all the time. But the cpu was hot when the game started, even reaching 100C thermal throttled and went below. While gaming, it stayed around 70-90, mainly the P cores get around 100. Even playing normal games like Lol, asseto corsa the cpu will get 100c and then come down to 70-80. Played ck3 on silent mode didn't seem to reach the 100s. I would say it's the issue with the 13/14gen series with the P and E core setup. Windows process scheduling can not fully utilize the E cores and puts all power on P cores. This will get better in future once amd brings the same setup in future ryzen. Might need to undervolt the cpu.

@Jake-kw4ql 3 ай бұрын

I just recently got a 2024 slim 5 4070 model, the rgb on the keyboard is so buggy. It doesn't work on start up, i have to cycle between fn lock on and off before the fn space quick command does anything, but even when it starts working, it doesn't apply my custom rgb profiles until i manually open vantage. If your 5 does the same thing, I'll chalk it up to a bug in vantage, if not, i might have to rma.

@ZeOriginalDC 3 ай бұрын

Hey dude, I bought my Legion 5 4070 model last month, and I had the same problem. One of the things that fixed it for me was just to uninstall Lenovo Vantage and Lenovo Vantage Service with Revo Uninstaller, restart laptop and redownload Lenovo Vantage through the Microsoft Store. Give it a try and see if it works 👍🏼

@TheKineticworx 2 ай бұрын

It would be good to know how performance varies between being powered by battery and plugged in. There used to be a big difference between AMD and Intel in this regard, not sure if there still is. This vs the 5 Slim with its AMD processor would be a useful comparison, and even the 5 Pro as well. (My Legion 7 gen 6 AMD performs way worse on battery, while Alienware x14 Intel maintains performance well at the expense of battery life).

@TechGuyBeau 2 ай бұрын

AMD is much better on battery still.

@TheKineticworx 2 ай бұрын

@@TechGuyBeau does performance, frame rate drop much when on battery though?

@mylandann816 6 күн бұрын

@@TheKineticworxyeah I believe, playing while plugged in helps achieving maximum performance and is considered better unless you lower the graphics and keep vram usage at a low ig you can run fine in battery mode but it won't last for long hours for sure....

@megabyte64 3 ай бұрын

Bruh, getting the Pro 7i next week. Its gonna be litty

@TechGuyBeau 3 ай бұрын

excellent

@jpdm9507 2 ай бұрын

Please help, I can't decide between: -Legion 5i Gen 9 Intel: i7-14650HX - RTX 4060 or -Legion Slim 5 Gen 9 AMD: Ryzen 7 8845HS - RTX 4070

@shirishx01 2 ай бұрын

What did you get

@jpdm9507 2 ай бұрын

@@shirishx01Hi, I bought the second option. I think it was the best choice. Now that I am using it I can tell that I prefer having a better GPU than a CPU

@stevejackson4340 3 ай бұрын

You forgot to say what graphic settings you had in Baldurs Gate 3. I would like to compare your results on this laptop to my 5i Legion Pro. Thanks.

@TechGuyBeau 3 ай бұрын

What gpu and cpu? Relatively they will perform the same assuming the same components. The power plan and cooling is near equal between this and the pro

@stevejackson4340 3 ай бұрын

@@TechGuyBeau You showed in the video all the in-game graphic settings you had set on Horizon but not on BG3. I was asking for those settings so I could compare how my 2023 Legion Pro with rtx 4070 and i7-13700HX was performing against this laptop. I asked for those settings because most reviewers only do graphic tests using first person shooters which I don’t play. BG3 is one of the games I do own. I will just assume you had the graphics set to high and see how that compares. Thanks for responding anyway :)

@adityamisra7702 2 ай бұрын

Hey does performance settings temp limit tool really help? I mean if we limit cpu temps and gpu temps to say 80, then will it really limit it to those temps or with time it will go to 100…the only reason why I don’t buy gaming lappy is there thermals…I don’t know proper undervolting, but as I see the lappy has some kind of temp controller settings so I was wondering

@Levendush 3 ай бұрын

Nice 👍

@cupcakeobsession Ай бұрын

Got this a few days ago, came as a surprise to me how high the temps could get, even at idle. Understandable that its a gaming laptop and all, i just worry for its longevity with HX chips inside. Though so far, ive been enjoying it, maybe the minmal ports is a nitpick. I know when my phone reached 40°c its unbearable, im impressed by it from cooling 103°c to stable 80-90°c in a few seconds, wish the fan was controllable stock tho...

@حيدرسامي-ج 27 күн бұрын

You can in custom mode its good can get the temps even to 65

@cupcakeobsession 27 күн бұрын

@@حيدرسامي-ج yep, figured that out eventually, though then i worry about the fans lifespan, is that a thing to worry on gaming laptops? Im a first time owner

@حيدرسامي-ج 27 күн бұрын

@@cupcakeobsession im too but some freinds said to me that fans are cheaper that a new laptop so yea but dont run it max all time just set a curve and 75-85 c is normal

@حيدرسامي-ج 27 күн бұрын

@@cupcakeobsession there is not a lot of info about that kinda stuff in the internet i guess everyone can buy the same laptop twice

@cupcakeobsession 27 күн бұрын

@@حيدرسامي-ج i mean, lenovos adp is kinda king where i am, so i guess im not to worried. I dont have many games to play as well, mostly casual and besides that i run mid settings or low when on battery to not degrade it too fast. Im just shocked that idle temps arent below 35 and reaching 50, underload seems pretty stable plugged at somewhat maxed on hsr and mid to high on wuwa both at 70-80c (wuwa reaching 90 sometimes).

@StringsofHope-n8d 23 күн бұрын

What’s your take on the issue with intel 14th gen? And do you think it’s safe to get a factory refurbished legion that has 3 year in house warranty? I’m concerned with all the talk online about the 14th gens self destructing.

@raymondtanadi5056 14 күн бұрын

from my online research, people said that the issue with the newest intel cpu is only appear in desktop cpu. which mean mobile cpu is safe from the tdp problem

@raymondting6614 9 күн бұрын

Does it really come with 2 ssd slots? Because when i asked their support they said only one slot.

@CC-hm8yl 3 ай бұрын

can you make a video to the Yoga Slim 7X

@TechGuyBeau 3 ай бұрын

Mine arrives Wednesday >:) So yes… yes I can

@ephremtekle6591 12 күн бұрын

is there a performance difference between legion 5i and pro 5i both with rtx 4060 and i7 14650hx?

@TechGuyBeau 11 күн бұрын

They will be basically the same in performance

@malachiteore 8 күн бұрын

Is this the 83dg00f5ph model?

@anonymous_exe__9516 3 ай бұрын

Would've been really happy if the i7 model came with a 4070.

@tanmayverma415 3 ай бұрын

Nah I'd Know who you are

@sarimmughal2935 23 күн бұрын

What would you say is better , Lenovo legion 5i rtx 4060 i7 13650hx with a 165hz panel or a hp victus 16 rtx 4070 amd 7840hs with a 240hz panel , considering I’m planning to run it for the next 4-5 years and and the victus is 50 dollars more expensive , would really love some input I’ve been stumped between the two for some time , I’m just not sure about the durability of the victus

@BearShepherd 6 күн бұрын

Aorus 16x with rtx4070

@TzufFamilyBand 23 күн бұрын

⁠thanks bro. The problem is that the legions don’t have amd here in this country. If I want amd I need to get the idea pad pro. Any idea if that is still good for video editing?

@TechGuyBeau 23 күн бұрын

Ideapad pro with a 3050/4050 will do very well yes

@TzufFamilyBand 23 күн бұрын

Thanks. So will amd give that much better cooler performance and battery life that it’s worthit getting the idea pad over the legion 5i? I need it for video editing.

@NZPIXELS 11 күн бұрын

i also need a laptop for editing.. so did you buy it already? how's the performance? @@TzufFamilyBand

@TzufFamilyBand 8 күн бұрын

@@NZPIXELS i ended up getting an hp envy with a 4060. i saw some good reviews on it for being relatively quiet and cool. and found a good deal locally

@yuri.andopov.151 3 ай бұрын

Just bought the 7i. Absolutely fantastic machine. Two things: Speakers are a crap, there is no way around it. The fingerprint sensor is on top of the always-warm part and sometimes it does not sense the fingerprints.

@thvndercracker 3 ай бұрын

i'm looking to get that sucker in the Glacier White which is gorgeous but debating to go between it or the last years 7i Pro with RTX 4080? They're at the same price in my area but can't really decide - the premium all metal build and white color of the newer 2024 7i or the performance and more AIO on the last year's 7i Pro?

@yuri.andopov.151 3 ай бұрын

@@thvndercracker I have the white one. Looks really premium. From the performance perspective, it handles everything really good.

@thvndercracker 3 ай бұрын

@yuri.andopov.151 yeah but how do you manage to live with just 2 USB a ports? I usually, when playing games, plug in a xbox controller and i have a cooling pad that also runs from usb and from time to time i do use an external keyboard and USB flash drives a lot so i need like 4 ports

@yuri.andopov.151 3 ай бұрын

@@thvndercracker External mouse and keyboard via bluetooth. I don't have xbox controller. You can connect a usb c dongle and have more usb ports, since you are playing on your desk, it will not bother you.

@thvndercracker 3 ай бұрын

@yuri.andopov.151 lol I'm using the laptop on the desk literally once a week or not at all, mostly it sits with me in the bed or chair but not on the desk. Nonetheless, this model is really beautiful and it tempts me, but i think i will go for last year's 7i Pro just for the raw performance. I hate that the so called "Pro model" doesn't have the new designed power button with fingeprint and the port indicators on the back don't light up. The 7i though has all metal build even on the keyboard deck? Can you tell me that feels good huh? Although the 7i doesn't use an rgb light strip at the front like the 7i Pro. If i could find the 2022 Legion 7i Pro i with the 3080 Ti, i would get that instead...

@jatinsingh2280 3 ай бұрын

Which one you prefer this or slim 5

@carlmina4287 3 ай бұрын

Slim 5 for me

@TechGuyBeau 3 ай бұрын

AMD is the better option in laptops currently

@krizzacamilegallantes8749 3 ай бұрын

Hi! Which is better Legion 5i (2024) or Legion 5i pro (2023)? Thank you!

@TechGuyBeau 3 ай бұрын

Whichever is cheaper to be honest. Assuming the same GPU and similar CPU

@ejc636 4 күн бұрын

There is no pi9

@robhunt8378 3 ай бұрын

These need better fan control. I don't mind a hotter laptop in exchange for less noise. My 4800H that's supported by LegionFanControl is inaudible unless I'm gaming or using handbrake. And even then I can barely hear the fans.

@retrogamer847 3 ай бұрын

You use latest i9 or Ryzen ofcorsse it needs strong fan

@robhunt8378 3 ай бұрын

@@retrogamer847 Nothing to do with the point I was making though.

@Cre8tive81 2 ай бұрын

Just picked this non pro version.. but has 32gb ram.

@bs_latz3l 21 күн бұрын

This laptop or slim with slim i will save 200$

@fadikh8192 2 ай бұрын

Does this laptop and Legion Y7000p the same ??

@aimnbadarne3074 3 ай бұрын

Do u think its good to take legion 5i or to get 5i pro for 230$ more and do u think the pro is better than asus strix g16 ??

@TechGuyBeau 3 ай бұрын

Asus has suspect warranty. If the screen and specs are equal on the 5i and 5i pro just get the cheaper one

@Webcatchyou 3 ай бұрын

Does it have battery drop issue in custom mode?

@Smart_boy2001 3 ай бұрын

Unlike 3070/3070ti 1600p is too much for 4070-4060 to handle it so I think 1980×1200 is the sweet spot for it even though I will consider buying 3070ti over 4070 if it was available.

@TechGuyBeau 3 ай бұрын

the 3070 does not outperform a 4070. In-fact i have done a dedicated video of a 3070ti legion versus a 4060 legion. Worth a watch i would think

@Smart_boy2001 3 ай бұрын

@@TechGuyBeau may I have the link?

@lowskillgamer9109 3 ай бұрын

For the budget I have I can get Lenovo legion 5i with i7 14700 and at the same price with the same specs but with i7 14650 Lenovo legion 5 pro, what is the main benefits if I want to go for pro?

@shirishx01 2 ай бұрын

You should go for 5i 14700HX rather than 5 pro (5i is better in some ways than 5 pro)

@bryangriffin521sg 20 күн бұрын

Will the second ssd slots cater up to 2 tb?

@BearShepherd 6 күн бұрын

Yes

@ahmettarikyanik Ай бұрын

So can i charge this laptop with the same charger i use for my phone? Any watt limit?

@حيدرسامي-ج 27 күн бұрын

No the type c need to output 100 watt or 120 w i dont remember

@ahmettarikyanik 27 күн бұрын

@@حيدرسامي-ج it's 65w min

@virendradeshmukh.8483 Ай бұрын

Whats the diff b/w 5i and pro 5 aside specs

@AbdelrahmanHashesh-n2x 24 күн бұрын

Got any information yet?

@golionelamos8244 2 ай бұрын

Is the screen OLED? Or IPS?

@TechGuyBeau 2 ай бұрын

IPS

@nikhilrmahi 3 ай бұрын

i7 or i9 chip in lenovo legion 7i “slim” 2024?

@TechGuyBeau 3 ай бұрын

@adityapratap8709 3 ай бұрын

Should I buy lenevo legion 5 slim ryzen 7 8845hs with rtx4060 or lenevo legion 5i i7 14 gen with rtx 4050 . Pleeez help I am going to buy next week and my preferences are gaming and programming

@adityapratap8709 3 ай бұрын

Please reply

@Kek163 3 ай бұрын

@@adityapratap8709slim for the 4060

@unknownuknowm5942 3 ай бұрын

Same price? If gaming then slim 5 is best option

@joemamagae 3 ай бұрын

programming is cpu intensive , I'd suggest you go with legion 5i with 4050 . also the terminals on the slim 5 aren't good enough

@chrisa9035 2 ай бұрын

I suggest the i9 with 4060 and 32gb ram. $1299 at costco

@ahmedtunio452 2 ай бұрын

Bro stop saying gaming laptop otherwise my mom wont buy me this🙂

@TechGuyBeau 2 ай бұрын

100% student laptop, zero games allowed on this laptop. There you go Mom you should buy it now 💵

@RKEY-k3l 3 ай бұрын

Legion slim 5 with R7 8845hs/4060 it comes with free monitor, gaming backpack, headset and mouse or Legion 5i I7 14700hx/4060 Free backpack and mouse Btw, legion 5i is 50usd cheaper and Im an Archi student so im gonna use it for CAD 3d modeling and rendering

@elieg.8920 Ай бұрын

Tried every laptop in the world if it has IPS panel no thank u , Mini led or Oled or skip., ...in a few year ips will be useless....

@oat-ik5ih Ай бұрын

in a few years you’ll change it for a newer one anyways

@AbdelrahmanHashesh-n2x 24 күн бұрын

Well mr rich oled and mini led the cheapest one is above 2500$ In Europe and other continents could get above 3000$ so nah uh Also ips 3 years ago was a premium thing to have

@elieg.8920 24 күн бұрын

@@AbdelrahmanHashesh-n2x ips premium? Ips exist for like 20 years nothing premium about it..

@AbdelrahmanHashesh-n2x 24 күн бұрын

@@elieg.8920 in monitors you're right, but in laptops? Hell i remember before corona we were CRAVING for any ips laptops it was alllllllllll of them tn ( unless literally like literally high end 10 kg laptops)