The Beverly Hills Supper Club | A Short Documentary | Fascinating Horror

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Fascinating Horror

Fascinating Horror

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@GothCookie
@GothCookie 4 жыл бұрын
So remember: when someone says there is a fire nearby, evacuate immediately, even if you do not see any smoke or flames. Don't be stupid, get yourself to safety.
@johnrandall125
@johnrandall125 4 жыл бұрын
There was a fire in a Woolworths store in England in 1979. Despite the fire alarms going off and smoke entering the cafe area several people in the cafe area decided it was nothing to do with them and that it was more important to stay and finish their meals. Yeah, they died.
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnrandall125 I've been to those cafe's they were nothing to write home about, much less to literally DIE for...
@bluemoon9501
@bluemoon9501 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnrandall125 serves them right for stupidity. 🤷‍♂️😒
@thedudejackietreehorn
@thedudejackietreehorn 4 жыл бұрын
People often don’t take fire alarms seriously.
@Mg3-Si2-O5-OH4
@Mg3-Si2-O5-OH4 3 жыл бұрын
This is almost word for word the warning I give for my farts
@DanielMothers
@DanielMothers 3 жыл бұрын
Walter Bailey single handedly saved 100s of lives, a true legend
@menosbbgirl
@menosbbgirl 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely a hero.
@whitedragoness23
@whitedragoness23 3 жыл бұрын
He was a true man, he knew when shif that he had to warn people, he did all he could
@lkovalinait
@lkovalinait 3 жыл бұрын
@chilly chiller Do you really need to be in a harms way to become a hero? Alas, he was in a danger. The fire has expanded at that point and instead of running away he went to warn other people
@lkovalinait
@lkovalinait 3 жыл бұрын
@chilly chiller wow, you really are so hate filled. You involved race without a reason. Tell me? Where were other employees? Or other visitors?
@Tishers
@Tishers 3 жыл бұрын
@chilly chiller I think chilly chiller needs a nap. Can someone check his diaper and give him a baby bottle?
@millardiii
@millardiii 3 жыл бұрын
The night of the fire, I was 15 years old and babysitting for a couple's children while they went to the Beverly Hills Supper Club some 60 miles away. I had turned on the television and was watching live coverage of the fire for about an hour when the parent's returned from their dinner, unaware of the fire that occurred after they left. Wow, what a night!
@SaraU_U
@SaraU_U 3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad they didn’t pass away 😭 i was reading your comment worrying you would say they didn’t make it
@Dulcimertunes
@Dulcimertunes 3 жыл бұрын
You almost became a parent!
@ccrozz99
@ccrozz99 3 жыл бұрын
@@SaraU_U for real me too
@reachandler3655
@reachandler3655 3 жыл бұрын
That must've been scary for you! I can only imagine how it felt, and the relief when they got home.
@dx1450
@dx1450 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, they were lucky they had an early dinner and didn't stay for the show.
@Tracywhited2
@Tracywhited2 2 жыл бұрын
I was babysitting with my sister. Four kids whose parents where there. They didn’t come home. We kept the kids for four days before family came and told us both parents were in the icu. Luckily they both survived I’ll never forget those days with those precious babies.
@mikaross4671
@mikaross4671 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad they survived!! terrifying.
@joeblough261
@joeblough261 Жыл бұрын
Damn. you should do a video detailing your experience
@Ty-op5xr
@Ty-op5xr Жыл бұрын
Liar
@MisterSandmanAU
@MisterSandmanAU Жыл бұрын
​@@Ty-op5xr piss off
@alisaishere
@alisaishere Жыл бұрын
@@Ty-op5xr Why do you say that?
@pyroshayniac1090
@pyroshayniac1090 4 жыл бұрын
The one guy who got on stage and told everyone to evacuate is a hero.
@waaaaantube
@waaaaantube 4 жыл бұрын
Yea. I thought so, too. Not everyone can do that. Death counts could have been 1,500, not 165 if he didn't. Hope he is alive and well somewhere now.
@mkocel
@mkocel 3 жыл бұрын
wheres his movie? lol
@efabiano82
@efabiano82 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks captain obvious.
@Vixyvix01
@Vixyvix01 3 жыл бұрын
@Meiere Christi Why bring politics in to it? Just praise him for his brave actions and leave it at that.
@Jelsick
@Jelsick 3 жыл бұрын
Meiere Christi The pot calling the kettle black.
@robinmansions2884
@robinmansions2884 3 жыл бұрын
The people who chose to heed Walter's words and evacuate the Cabaret Room weren't lucky, they were wise.
@heliveruscalion9124
@heliveruscalion9124 3 жыл бұрын
more like they weren't totap dumbasses to be honest
@lornagoulbourne3219
@lornagoulbourne3219 3 жыл бұрын
Some of them still could not find their way out of the building!
@FiddlebirdBlue
@FiddlebirdBlue 3 жыл бұрын
@@heliveruscalion9124 If you'd care to learn more about why the vast majority of people don't function well in an emergency, instead of callously presuming them to be idiots, perhaps try "The Gift of Fear" by de Becker or "Deep Survival" by Gonzales. People are imperfect. We largely function as we have evolved and been conditioned to do. We still deserve compassion.
@heliveruscalion9124
@heliveruscalion9124 3 жыл бұрын
@@FiddlebirdBlue i know, i was more referring to them refusing to leave because they wanted to eat
@medjeds
@medjeds 3 жыл бұрын
your icon is based
@toweypat
@toweypat 4 жыл бұрын
"Walter Bailey suffered from severe stage fright." Being a very introverted and socially anxious person, I really respect him for taking that step to warn people.
@5roundsrapid263
@5roundsrapid263 4 жыл бұрын
I have chronic anxiety, but I couldn’t live with myself if I didn’t try to warn as many as possible. I guess that was his reason.
@tlwest21
@tlwest21 4 жыл бұрын
Plus he was a CUTIE!!! Way to go Walter
@BreakerInc
@BreakerInc 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you just.. gotta do what you gotta do. I can't imagine being on a stage, I'd probably pass out on the spot. Much respect goes to Walter Bailey for sure. I'd like to think I could do that if in the same situation, but that's not a guarantee, and I would rather never find out in such a horrific way.
@dmreddragon6
@dmreddragon6 4 жыл бұрын
Yea, what a shame that more people didn't heed his warning.
@DigitalMonster
@DigitalMonster 4 жыл бұрын
Ian Lundquist nobody is saying that it was. Its just commendable what he did despite his limitations. stfu
@alfonsosoriano171
@alfonsosoriano171 3 жыл бұрын
I was in a movie theater once, and somebody jokingly shouted "fire". Within 10 seconds, I was out of the building. Cowards like me tends to survive such event.
@charlieangkor8649
@charlieangkor8649 3 жыл бұрын
You were not a coward. You were just normally acting.
@thecoldglassofwatershow
@thecoldglassofwatershow 3 жыл бұрын
And then you never went to a movie theater again
@alfonsosoriano171
@alfonsosoriano171 3 жыл бұрын
@@thecoldglassofwatershow Haha, of course I still go to the movies regularly whenever there's a good movie. I live in a countryside and we don't have any television.
@neptunenavalmods4420
@neptunenavalmods4420 3 жыл бұрын
Went to my first indoor concert right after the Station Fire in 2003 (100 people killed, and the live video of what happened made me sick) - after I saw it I made sure that I knew where the exits were.
@deenawomack4661
@deenawomack4661 2 жыл бұрын
I would be the same way.
@PastelWorldDolls
@PastelWorldDolls 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t care if I paid $1000 to see my favorite artist, if someone says everyone needs to evacuate because there’s a fire, I’m leaving. You could probably get a refund
@benmackarel295
@benmackarel295 3 жыл бұрын
They would probably get more cause compensation aswell
@genesisdenesis
@genesisdenesis 3 жыл бұрын
these days, yes
@noeyexplainssomeofit
@noeyexplainssomeofit 3 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly why the business didn’t want to tell people. If people left and wanted refunds over a non-issue it would be a huge problem. Forget about money altogether. $1000 is not worth your life ever.
@TheBearAspirin
@TheBearAspirin 3 жыл бұрын
The advertisement was $13.95 for the show that night. That's about $85.00 in today's dollars. Definitely not worth losing your life over.
@diegomo1413
@diegomo1413 3 жыл бұрын
Bump your knee on the way out on purpose do get a slice of that sweet settlement too lol
@vampireknox
@vampireknox 4 жыл бұрын
The idea of dying in a human crush is one of the most disturbing things in the world to me. Reminds me of that disaster at the football game, where all those people were crushed against the barriers. I can't think of anything worse than slowly suffocating packed in with dead and dying people... Brr
@Frazoor
@Frazoor 3 жыл бұрын
Ibrox disaster?
@Olhado256
@Olhado256 3 жыл бұрын
@@Frazoor Either that or Hillsborough. What I find absolutely frightening about both stadium crushes is that there was no fire or any other emergency. People just wanted to move...
@JonnyMack33
@JonnyMack33 3 жыл бұрын
There was one in the 80’s where a footy stadium caught fire too.. it went up in seconds and was fully ablaze in minutes.. you can find it here on YT but I can’t remember the name of it.
@Frazoor
@Frazoor 3 жыл бұрын
@@JonnyMack33 Bradford is the one I think you're referring to.
@voldemortsunbaenim3490
@voldemortsunbaenim3490 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!! This reminds me all the time of the love parade in germany. I remember the day so clearly bc two of my siblings went there and i was freaking out. Luckily they both went home before it happened, but just imagine the panic and people also falling down and others just walking on you. Really terrifying
@FascinatingHorror
@FascinatingHorror 4 жыл бұрын
Moral of the story? When a fire alarm sounds or you're told to evacuate... start evacuating. Calmly. Stay safe out there!
@sylwia7060
@sylwia7060 4 жыл бұрын
Thank's for uploading,new subscriber from Norway 🙋
@islandblind
@islandblind 4 жыл бұрын
That's good advice. I was at a shopping centre one time when the fire alarm sounded. I was surprised by the number of people who seemingly ignored the shrilling alarm, though maybe I shouldn't have been. Even though it turned out to be a false alarm, we didn't know that initially. It's a myth that people panic at the sound of a fire alarm. Most people don't react at all until the danger becomes abundantly clear, by which time it's usually too late. That's when people panic.
@Jimmyismycat
@Jimmyismycat 4 жыл бұрын
Also the maximum capacity is calculated by architects and designers for a reason, this is why !
@Sarah.Riedel
@Sarah.Riedel 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't think anything could be more horrifying than the Station inferno, but this is pretty fucking close
@Decgyrrl
@Decgyrrl 4 жыл бұрын
U wouldn't have 2 tell me 2xs. Thatz a horrible way 2 die!
@SirIsaacClarke
@SirIsaacClarke 3 жыл бұрын
"The place lacked fire alarms and sprinklers'. Every single fucking time.
@nightthornkvala94132
@nightthornkvala94132 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the no marked or chained closed emergency exits.
@caelidhg6261
@caelidhg6261 3 жыл бұрын
too expensive.. profit above lives EVERY TIME.. until they realized the cost of paying out lawsuits and the bad publicity was more expensive.
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 3 жыл бұрын
@@nightthornkvala94132 They're almost always marked, unless you go way back to the Iroquois. Not often chained, either. Cocoanut Grove was the last one that was like that in the early 40s. At least in the States. I DID see a locked n blocked door setup at No Exit Cafe in Chicago. Also called Theobuique (spelling?) Playhouse in Uptown. I mentioned it in my Google review. I emailed them. And the fire marshall. I don't know if anything came of it. There obviously was no fire when I was there. People go out the door they came in at.
@megandunnett7900
@megandunnett7900 3 жыл бұрын
Or….. they had sprinklers/alarms/detectors that weren’t hooked up properly. That’s another thing that seems to turn up in these videos.
@stevenstice6683
@stevenstice6683 3 жыл бұрын
@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 The Summerland Entertainment Center on the Isle of Mann had some exits chained and one exit was blocked by the safety director's car. That was in '73. Also, no sprinkler system and no redundancies for their fire alarms.
@tmrezzek5728
@tmrezzek5728 4 жыл бұрын
The moral of the story: always listen to the busboy or waitress. They ALWAYS have more common sense than bosses.
@michaeltaylor1603
@michaeltaylor1603 4 жыл бұрын
Being a "headwaiter" YOUR comment rings TRUE!
@greyeaglem
@greyeaglem 4 жыл бұрын
@paul c I've worked in management and I do have common sense. But I'm also the kind of manager who can do any of the jobs I supervise, which a lot of managers today can't.
@jotarokujo1317
@jotarokujo1317 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely not always lol
@enemy1134
@enemy1134 3 жыл бұрын
this is just a desperate generalization to make you feel better about being a busboy. I'd love to see the "research" stating that no manager knows what theyre doing. I've had several extremely good managers
@greyeaglem
@greyeaglem 3 жыл бұрын
@@relaxolotl_ltoloxaler That's what makes me wonder when companies promote people to those positions. Or maybe I just don't understand what a manager is supposed to be. My mom used to say they would promote people who were incompetent that they didn't know what else to do with, which makes no sense. When I was first working your manager was someone who had worked their way up by doing the jobs they oversaw. Later, I had friends who were hired as managers in businesses they knew nothing about because they had some kind of degree, not even in business. Makes me wonder how any place can make money with top people not knowing what they're doing.
@cluelesscanadian8229
@cluelesscanadian8229 4 жыл бұрын
Props to that one guy who went up on stage to warn people. All those that listened to him could have died if he didn’t go up there against his peers wishes
@kissarococo2459
@kissarococo2459 4 жыл бұрын
Bravery is doing something that scares you. I recall reading that.
@updownstate
@updownstate 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone can do the right thing. Few do.
@serenacelestine
@serenacelestine 4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if he survived?
@rushcoilpdx
@rushcoilpdx 4 жыл бұрын
Serena Celestine “WALTER BAILEY is the most iconic “hero” of 5-28-77. The 18-year-old Beverly Hills busboy was widely credited with saving hundreds, if not more, with his decision to bypass reluctant superiors and interrupt the warmup act to John Davidson in the Cabaret Room, the Beverly’s grand performance hall. A jam-packed and dressed-up audience had no idea of a problem, and Bailey himself was not positive the fire would spread from the spot where he had seen it. But acting on gut instinct, he grabbed a microphone from a performer and warned the crowd to seek the exits. The just-graduated Campbell County High School senior went on to Northern Kentucky University, where he earned a degree in economics, and he has lived the last 25 years in Greater Dallas, working in finance.”
@armjjb5189
@armjjb5189 4 жыл бұрын
Given his stage fright, that guy has serious balls!
@iambiggus
@iambiggus 3 жыл бұрын
I'll never forget a conformity experiment a tv show did a while back. The set up was a group of 12-15 people sitting at desks filling out an important form of some sort, with an "observer" present and a couple of stooges planted in the group. At one point the observer leaves, but tells them they need to stay in their seats until he returns. Once he leaves they slowly start pumping more and more smoke out from under one of the side doors. As people started to notice, the 1-2 stooges they had planted in the crowd said things like "Oh I'm sure it's nothing, we should just stay in our seats, he told us to stay in our seats, etc..." and the experiment found that MOST people, and by most I mean like 98%, just sat there and watched the smoke, with the majority even going back to filling out their forms, not wanting to rock the boat or upset the herd. I think only one or two people in all the iterations of the experiment actually got up and did anything about it. Conformity can get you killed.
@yaysimonsays151
@yaysimonsays151 3 жыл бұрын
damn ok then. i get the fire extinguisher when the smoke alarm wants new batteries and panic that the stove is unmonitored for 3 seconds so i guess i'm just paranoid then...
@Aranimda
@Aranimda 3 жыл бұрын
I think it is here on KZbin: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJuzY2V6pb6Mnpo
@tomrogers9467
@tomrogers9467 3 жыл бұрын
And this is how the Police slowly erode the freedom of the people. One little law at a time and we all huddle together obeying.
@ashleedaniel7087
@ashleedaniel7087 3 жыл бұрын
i remember watching that experiment a few weeks ago in my sociology class. if i were there i would literally be leaving the building immediately and would be calling for help, i’d rather be alive than not wanting to rock the boat
@jamesanthony8438
@jamesanthony8438 3 жыл бұрын
They've been doing the same thing for the past year with the mask mandates and lockdowns, trying to see just how much they can get away with.
@brookolson2194
@brookolson2194 3 жыл бұрын
Jeez, I was almost relieved to hear that there were “only” 165 deaths. With 1000+ people in there who left so late and struggled to find a way out, it’s a miracle that the rescue personnel saved so many!
@HeronCoyote1234
@HeronCoyote1234 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. Only 165 deaths? I thought it would have been much higher.
@greyeaglem
@greyeaglem 3 жыл бұрын
The generally accepted number of people in the building is around 3,000. Some estimates are as high as 5,000. Yes, bad as it was, it's a miracle it wasn't worse.
@neptunenavalmods4420
@neptunenavalmods4420 3 жыл бұрын
Same here. I remember the first time I read about a similar fire (Cocoanut Grove). I was like "huh, that doesn't make sense - author said at the end there were hundreds of bodies but the death toll was 49" - Then I reread it and saw the "2" at the edge of the page. 492 dead, and not 49. It was the worst sinking feeling.
@sherpaderpdingo3405
@sherpaderpdingo3405 2 жыл бұрын
over 1000 in just one of the many rooms
@trequor
@trequor 2 жыл бұрын
@@HeronCoyote1234 Crazy that it only takes a hundred people to completely clog an exit.
@mr.handsomecoffeecup2406
@mr.handsomecoffeecup2406 4 жыл бұрын
I've seen enough Final Destination movies to know that the minute someone starts freaking out about imminent danger out of nowhere, you'd find me bolting to the exit door
@aheimdahl5201
@aheimdahl5201 4 жыл бұрын
You've got that right - me too!
@aileengarvin3632
@aileengarvin3632 4 жыл бұрын
I was a passenger in my friends car. She happened to be driving behind a lorry piled with logs. I turned to her and said "if highway to hell comes on the radio, your on your own, I'm bailing this fucking car"
@EvansFamilyLegoProject
@EvansFamilyLegoProject 4 жыл бұрын
And not the main exit- because that's the fastest way to get trapped and die. Always go for an alternative way- the way you came in will be the most crowded.
@barbedwire4128
@barbedwire4128 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!!!!!!!
@jamesbarnett2483
@jamesbarnett2483 4 жыл бұрын
Because watching final destination movies is great basis for making life altering decisions.
@ML-zr4qe
@ML-zr4qe 4 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine being jammed in doors, just a stack of people piled up to the top, unable to move, with a fire behind you. Makes me realize why monthly school fire drills are so important.
@slantos2668
@slantos2668 4 жыл бұрын
reminds me of hearing the same thing happening during this event: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Station_nightclub_fire
@ThemMightyPies
@ThemMightyPies 4 жыл бұрын
Sure you can’t... I’ve heard things.
@calvinbaII
@calvinbaII 4 жыл бұрын
@@slantos2668 Yep as he starting talking about bodies being pinned/trapped in the doorways it immediately made me think of the Station Nightclub Fire. I remember when that happened and ever since if I'm at any kind of venue I'm always looking for fire exits because you never know.
@shawver83
@shawver83 4 жыл бұрын
S Lantos yeah, that Station fire is one of the worst things I’ve seen. All those people stacked in the doorway.
@m4rs12
@m4rs12 4 жыл бұрын
More importantly, don't get tripped and fall while trying to get through the doorway
@donutchan8114
@donutchan8114 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that the employees received no training and still did their best to help in spite of it all, even pushing past chronic stage fright, is truly heroic.
@alashiadiggs6006
@alashiadiggs6006 3 жыл бұрын
So true!
@startedtech
@startedtech 3 жыл бұрын
The hiring manager should be applauded! Clearly some good employees
@archieohare
@archieohare 2 жыл бұрын
One's heroism always is a result of an another's crime.
@thepinkyprincesspoetc.a.5767
@thepinkyprincesspoetc.a.5767 2 жыл бұрын
Yay!!! I was your 1000th 👍 LIKE!
@trequor
@trequor 2 жыл бұрын
how the hell can stage fright be "chronic"?
@Bananacustardcostuming
@Bananacustardcostuming 3 жыл бұрын
I once got trampled under the crowd of a punk rock show, I broke my spine and could have died. I can safely say I was absolutely terrified and couldn’t even scream. I had to pull on peoples trouser legs for attention, just clawing at them. It’s been 15 years and I still get chills.
@RaynaMay
@RaynaMay 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds horrifying! Did anyone even look down and acknowledge you?!
@JKArcade
@JKArcade 2 жыл бұрын
My dude…
@fumanpoo4725
@fumanpoo4725 2 жыл бұрын
Dude...I had people walking on top of me on the floor at a PiL gig...I thought I was gonna die.
@Svoorhout85
@Svoorhout85 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds awful. Ive joined some moshpits in my time and some unwritten rules always applied: If someone falls, stop and help them up. Dont hit people intentionally. (some people will just try punching everyone around them)
@SteedRuckus
@SteedRuckus 2 жыл бұрын
@@Svoorhout85 unfortunately that's the way it USED to be - it seems like many times nowadays people in the pit just go in with the intention of hurting people, and it's really ruined the whole experience of moshing for me in general because you can't tell what kind of pit you're getting into most times until it's too late to remove yourself if that/those asshole(s) are involved.
@earlgreybae7422
@earlgreybae7422 4 жыл бұрын
It’s always money. All of these videos, someone’s trying to make money, save money, make sure they spent their money well. It’s not worth dying for. No amount of it.
@devildude64
@devildude64 3 жыл бұрын
Bingo !!!!
@mattropolis99
@mattropolis99 3 жыл бұрын
Ignorance is the worst killer. Anyone that knows how quickly fires spread knows that a 10 second delay will get you killed. Same patterns of delay to evacuate and crushing at exits happened at countless other fires.
@itscrespoyo9878
@itscrespoyo9878 3 жыл бұрын
Problem is they aren't the ones dying. It's the innocent and incredulent in many cases. Those in power/control either pay out or serve minimal time.
@jessdavis2677
@jessdavis2677 3 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how many people end up killing/hurting themselves or others over money. It feels like people treat money more like a religion than a method of exchange.
@trishbirchard1270
@trishbirchard1270 3 жыл бұрын
How many years does it take an assuming person to figure this out ?
@hiroasuakika7144
@hiroasuakika7144 3 жыл бұрын
Walter Bailey is a true hero. He faced his fear head on to possibly save hundreds of lives. Stage fright is not a simple fear, it can be incredibly debilitating.
@reachandler3655
@reachandler3655 3 жыл бұрын
It also took guts to go against the orders of his superiors! A lot of people wouldn't for fear of losing their job. Add to that he was young, probably inexperienced, and unsure if the fire actually posed a threat.
@marvindebot3264
@marvindebot3264 3 жыл бұрын
@@reachandler3655 After they got out he and several other staff reentered the now well alight building and pulled another 20 to 30 people out.
@mandlin4602
@mandlin4602 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the people who listened to him and left owe their lives to him. It’s an example of why integrity for basic values is more important than societal structures of authority. Fuck the rules if it’s the right thing to do, do it.
@larkefedifero
@larkefedifero 3 жыл бұрын
Remember what Jerry Seinfeld said...When surveyed, it was found that the #1 fear of people was *stage fright* . DEATH, was #2! So, while intended as a joke, his follow-up line was very true..."Which means, that, at a funeral, they'd rather be in the casket than giving a eulogy!" :-O :-P ;-) Saying "I'm just a calm guy..." just doesn't cut it. Obviously you wouldn't KNOW if a certain situation were an experiment or not, so if you smell smoke, *act like it's coming from under your ass* ! Get up, and tell everyone that they ought to follow your lead and make their way to the nearest exit!! Cool?!?! :-)
@Fucklifedeadshit
@Fucklifedeadshit 3 жыл бұрын
Gay
@cowtippingrocks
@cowtippingrocks 4 жыл бұрын
most regulations are written in blood.
@larrychilders6599
@larrychilders6599 4 жыл бұрын
yup every warning has a story behind it, like choking hazards are because of Battlestar Galactica toys
@brianfuller7691
@brianfuller7691 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly, most are. It's great that we learn from disasters but sad that we don't anticipate well.
@updownstate
@updownstate 4 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@cowtippingrocks
@cowtippingrocks 4 жыл бұрын
@@brianfuller7691 if this happened nowadays, someone would be going to jail. Laws got tough for a reason.
@cowtippingrocks
@cowtippingrocks 4 жыл бұрын
@@updownstate Thank you :)
@nonconnahordeath
@nonconnahordeath 3 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine what it must've felt like for Mr. Bailey to be up on stage, practically begging people to flee the building, and being ignored by a large majority of them. So many pointless lives lost. In the face of one person's heroism, so many people just did nothing, and paid for it.
@greyeaglem
@greyeaglem 3 жыл бұрын
The majority didn't ignore him, which is why the majority did get out. A lot of focus has been put on people thinking he was part of the show. It's not like they sat there for10 minutes thinking about it.The comedians on stage also told them to leave and that they would continue the show once the fire was taken care of. Walter Bailey also said it was a small kitchen fire, because that's what he thought it was, and the kitchen was on the other side of the building. He implied they were evacuating out of an abundance of caution, so most people weren't all that worried. Within a few minutes the room was in flames. This all happened in a very, very short time.
@nthgth
@nthgth 2 жыл бұрын
@@greyeaglem that does lend a good dose of context to this, thanks.
@Gail1Marie
@Gail1Marie Жыл бұрын
Fires double in size every minute. There's no such thing as a "small" fire. @@greyeaglem
@aldenconsolver3428
@aldenconsolver3428 11 ай бұрын
Actually if he had known that the fire was much more serious than a minor kitchen fire he should have still not shown any great fear, "There is a minor fire in one of the rooms in the front of the building. Due to the smoke you are all asked to evacuate out the back while we deal with the fire. We will call you back in when it is controlled." is a lot better than "RUN RUN RUN the building is burning down, get out now" which would almost certainly have killed more people than the minor fire warning. I do find it a little scary that while I worked for years as a bouncer and many times as a concert security person NO ONE EVER made me aware of fire safety in the buildings. Of course I am sufficiently intelligent to always check for myself as everyone should.
@luxdiscountfurniture
@luxdiscountfurniture 4 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised only 165 people died. It could have been so, so much higher.
@robinrodriguez480
@robinrodriguez480 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely it's actually a miracle more people didn't die!!!
@WyattRyeSway
@WyattRyeSway 4 жыл бұрын
I can’t imagine being a fireman having to deal with all of those deaths. We often think of the victims but not often of the fireman or policemen who have to deal with the aftermath. This story is so sad on so many levels and for so many people.
@myragroenewegen5426
@myragroenewegen5426 4 жыл бұрын
I am really surprised by the low death count too. With the building being so sprawling and so many people that had to be told by word of mouth, it is kind of amazing that only that biggest room caused a massive amount of death and that hardly anyone died in hospital after getting out --from smoke inhalation or injuries caused in the panic or --- so many things really. It's almost a reassuring story because the contributing factors in the fire all seem like such obvious matters of safety and unlikely to be missed in North America today on anything like that scale. What's unsettling is that it was as recent as the 1970s. Also . . . While General Electric was sued and heads rolled over faulty fire inspection there are so many other people to call to account here. Who let those extensions be so rambling without smoke detectors or fire exits? Who let the club be repeatedly oversold and overcrowded?
@onadaTotihotiH
@onadaTotihotiH 4 жыл бұрын
Yea, it really doesn’t help that the way he describes it, there were already hundreds of people dying or close to death in the cabaret room
@trent3872
@trent3872 4 жыл бұрын
Google the name Clarkie Mayfield, Wikipedia only says where he died, not how, he died in that supper club, but after he had gotten out, he went back in to help others and died a hero. He played college football at Kentucky, he coached at a small college near me. I remember this story and about him, I was 12 when it happened.
@jenniferscholl9770
@jenniferscholl9770 4 жыл бұрын
My grandparents were supposed to be there that night. They got lucky that my grandpa got sick and they cancelled with their friends. Their friends went anyway and didn’t make it out.
@sinistersam
@sinistersam 4 жыл бұрын
I am so terribly sorry for the loss of your grandparent's friends. I cannot imagine how traumatizing that must have been for them and your grandparents to know that they could have almost been there. Hug your grandparents extra tight they are very lucky people
@sarahjane5504
@sarahjane5504 4 жыл бұрын
My aunt and her husband were supposed to be there that night, they were nurses and had to work, tragically my uncles entire family perished that night😥so incredibly sad💔
@daytonasayswhat9333
@daytonasayswhat9333 4 жыл бұрын
Sure.
@sarahjane5504
@sarahjane5504 4 жыл бұрын
Daytona Says What?! Sure what?
@pinkrose5796
@pinkrose5796 4 жыл бұрын
@@sarahjane5504 I'm so sorry to hear that his entire family perished:(. I'm glad they survived but can't imagine the grief and pain they felt. That's something that never goes away.
@chunkycornbread4773
@chunkycornbread4773 4 жыл бұрын
As a firefighter this is my worst nightmare. Seeing people right in front of you and your powerless to help them.
@sheepen9000
@sheepen9000 4 жыл бұрын
Hell, as a NON firefighter this is my worst nightmare.. holy shit can you even imagine?
@cosmic1861
@cosmic1861 4 жыл бұрын
Watch the huachicoleros that happened in Mexico. Everyone was screaming for help, running while burning.
@mook_butt8037
@mook_butt8037 4 жыл бұрын
EMT here, and my biggest fear is always that I won’t be able to do anything for a patient. Stay safe out there, fellow public service person!
@ashleyshim2078
@ashleyshim2078 4 жыл бұрын
@@sheepen9000 IKR😱
@Everetttango1
@Everetttango1 4 жыл бұрын
*you’re
@boardgamer447
@boardgamer447 3 жыл бұрын
Walter Bailey = hero. Disregarding idiot superiors and overcoming stage fright to speak to that giant room full of people about an immediate threat to their lives. Legend.
@eurekasquared9853
@eurekasquared9853 Жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@sharksport01
@sharksport01 Жыл бұрын
Did he die in a car accident while still young?
@ehfik
@ehfik 8 ай бұрын
i dont understand how any military works ^^
@jacobk.costello1209
@jacobk.costello1209 4 жыл бұрын
Both of my grandparents were there and passed away on the scene that night. This is still a story which still effects families all around Cincinnati. It’s one of those events in time that everyone remembers where they were the night of the fire and when they got news of it happening. My mother, aunts, and extended family members have lifelong scars that will never heal. I hope the new development will pay tribute to those who passed and those who still suffer due to this tragedy.
@planet415
@planet415 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry for your loss😔❤❤❤
@nycdweller
@nycdweller 3 жыл бұрын
I am so sorry for your loss. Prayers for your family
@nutt_biggin
@nutt_biggin 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing such a sensitive story.
@heatherhent4445
@heatherhent4445 3 жыл бұрын
@Dr. Tamara Worley I am so sorry. Hopefully you one day find some peace.
@heatherhent4445
@heatherhent4445 3 жыл бұрын
@Dr. Tamara Worley I can understand. After loosing loved ones it takes me a long time to remember them without remembering only the pain.. I know my parent's wouldn't want me miserable after they passed. Some days are better than others. Hope yours get better💕.
@gemgirl223
@gemgirl223 4 жыл бұрын
The errieness of the junior worker's warning falling onto deaf ears is so chilling. In less than 5 minutes they saw what he had warned come true...how many of them were thinking of what he said as they passed? Terrifies me.
@soxpeewee
@soxpeewee 4 жыл бұрын
Darwinism at work
@jerrysizzler44
@jerrysizzler44 4 жыл бұрын
I don't have a fear of crowds but I have a fear of crowds in emergency situations. It's scary how we can turn into wild animals and abandon humanity so quickly in a panic...
@dmreddragon6
@dmreddragon6 4 жыл бұрын
I feel the worst for the people who wanted to leave but were coerced gy their spouse (or other party member) to stay.
@ihatefrankiero
@ihatefrankiero 4 жыл бұрын
@@dmreddragon6 I’m picturing scared wives with stubborn or drunk husbands refusing to leave
@galinda91
@galinda91 4 жыл бұрын
Humans have a major fault of refusing to listen. We had a major gas leak at my work, a large bookstore, and people were refusing to leave. “I just want to buy this book...”. People got mad, like livid, at me because I forced them to leave. If the gas had ignited it would have been the whole store gone. And we still had people in the parking lot trying to push past firemen to get in the building. People are fucking stupid and entitled
@Kilo-sz4ch
@Kilo-sz4ch 3 жыл бұрын
“They had paid a lot of money for their tickets and did not wish for their evening to be ruined” Well do I have some news for you...
@motherlove202
@motherlove202 3 жыл бұрын
A ruined evening >losing my life
@charlieangkor8649
@charlieangkor8649 3 жыл бұрын
I guess one discreet cremation didn't ruin their evening.
@Kilo-sz4ch
@Kilo-sz4ch 3 жыл бұрын
@@charlieangkor8649 yeah, got to see the show and got a free cremation, who could complain? What a bargain
@auntkaz815
@auntkaz815 2 жыл бұрын
$13.95 or your life?
@Gail1Marie
@Gail1Marie 2 жыл бұрын
@@auntkaz815 "I'm thinking, I'm thinking..." (From an old Jack Benny sketch, when a mugger tells him, "Your money or your life.") Nope, never ate a prime rib that was worth my life.
@Miniver765
@Miniver765 3 жыл бұрын
This is so similar to the Coconut Grove nightclub fire in Boston almost *35 years earlier.* 35 years to learn about fire safety, and this tragedy STILL happened anyway. Incredible.
@sixslinger9951
@sixslinger9951 Жыл бұрын
still some didn't learn....2003 Station Nightclub Fire
@julialampros6334
@julialampros6334 4 жыл бұрын
I was there the night before. It was so packed, we actually said it would be disastrous if there was a fire. The night of the fire, I was going someplace and got stuck in traffic on the hill opposite the fire. It was horrendous
@Texaslawhorn
@Texaslawhorn 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you weren't there that fatal night!
@StuartOliver83
@StuartOliver83 4 жыл бұрын
Wow that's scary,glad you're still here 👍🏻🇬🇧
@dreerasmus1812
@dreerasmus1812 4 жыл бұрын
Do You have a license for them.glasses?
@antonia8879
@antonia8879 4 жыл бұрын
Crazy !!!
@cocokai9661
@cocokai9661 4 жыл бұрын
@dave ortwine Hmm...looks hilly from the photos. And it was called Beverly Hills. So I'm not so sure you're right.
@naturalcambion3747
@naturalcambion3747 3 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine being the couple that had the wedding in the Zebra Room. Being miffed that it was to hot and the strange noise and having to leave early. Then to come home and later realize that it could have been you in the epicenter of the blaze.
@stevenstice6683
@stevenstice6683 3 жыл бұрын
They left a picture of their melted cake at the ruins of the Supper Club, next to the sign that marked the Zebra Room.
@Zodroo_Tint
@Zodroo_Tint 3 жыл бұрын
Well, probably if they stay they would see the smoke first so they call the workers there, when the fire will come there will be workers trying to solve the problem, they definetely have bigger chance than opening a door to a fire and letting in a bunch of oxigen.
@shadowsinmymind9
@shadowsinmymind9 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zodroo_Tint either way, the fire started in the wiring which is usually in the ceilings and walls. Putting a fire out in a ceiling is tricky. And those doors would of been opened anyway
@trequor
@trequor 2 жыл бұрын
@@shadowsinmymind9 Ceiling fires aren't actually that bad. Oxygen and fuel supply is usually pretty limited and sticking a fire extinguisher up there can much more effective than using one in an open space. Source: We had a ceiling fire at my old workplace (flight school adjoining an aircraft hangar with over 400 gallons of leaking, high grade fuel). It was under control within minutes of figuring out where the smoke came from and of course we were able to "evacuate" the building with ease (it was too windy to fly so almost nobody was there). And of course the fire department was literally next door so it probably wouldn't have been too much of a problem.
@shadowsinmymind9
@shadowsinmymind9 2 жыл бұрын
@@trequor you had a fire extinguisher though, and buildings are now made out of less flammable materials compared to back then. It all depends on what materials are around the fire and if any doors or windows are open nearby.
@greyhoundTex
@greyhoundTex 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact; my grandma would have been there that night with one of her sisters and two of her friends, but they got a flat tire on the way and ended up not making it. They used to go every other week. So if it weren't for a flat tire, my whole life would be very different. It is crazy how such small things can impact someone's entire life trajectory.
@davidcross701
@davidcross701 3 жыл бұрын
Yup... trajectory.
@tomrogers9467
@tomrogers9467 3 жыл бұрын
It’s the ripple effect. One event in one person’s life can have an impact on ultimately hundreds of other people for years after. Multiply that by the number of events in every life and you can see the complexity of our fates. And the most ridiculous statement of all is “ it was meant to be”! NOTHING is “ meant to be”, everything in our lives is random chance, and influenced by the random events in other’s lives.
@daisy8284
@daisy8284 3 жыл бұрын
@@tomrogers9467 amen.
@Sanakudou
@Sanakudou 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of 9/11 stories of people missing the bus or getting stuck in traffic and other similar things that made them late to work and thusly weren’t there when the buildings fell down. Extremely small things can change your fate, often things completely random and out of your control.
@Harkness78
@Harkness78 3 жыл бұрын
Well, only like 5% of the people at the club that night died, so the flat tire took a 5% chance that your life might be different and made it 0%
@dadzawa_actual
@dadzawa_actual 3 жыл бұрын
A tale to tell for this one... My family at the time (well before I was born) was going here for a 'engagement party' for my aunt and uncle, who had just gotten engaged, but did it while they were on a trip together. So, around 30+ members of the family were going to get together and had reserved one of the larger areas of the Supper Club. Well, fortunately, the day prior a chunk of the family had gone fishing+barbeque grillout get together. All of them got sick from something at that event, and the party was canceled... Their seat time would have been ten minutes before the fire broke out.
@tayachting6345
@tayachting6345 3 жыл бұрын
I think perhaps a guardian angel was at work that day.
@bonnierussell7824
@bonnierussell7824 4 жыл бұрын
"Everybody get out! The building's on fire. Run for your lives!" "But I'm not done with my drink."
@tlwest21
@tlwest21 4 жыл бұрын
Take it with you!!!
@mysticfire473
@mysticfire473 4 жыл бұрын
Darwinism at its finest
@greyeaglem
@greyeaglem 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Walter Bailey stated there was a small fire in the front (opposite side) of the building. At the time, there was no sign of the fire in the Cabaret Room. The entertainers said they would be back in a few minutes. Everyone thought the fire was minor and would be put out. People did start to leave, but even if everyone had jumped up as soon as the announcement was made, there was no way they could have all gotten out in time due to the small number of exits. The fact some stayed seated probably allowed the ones who did get out to do so. Otherwise there would have been a stampede early on and no one would have made it out. The spread of the fire was very rapid and it was only a couple of minutes before flames roared down the hallway and entered the room.
@ThisCallumPerson
@ThisCallumPerson 4 жыл бұрын
@@greyeaglem very true, as it said it took four minutes before the panic, I myself am partial to waiting in my seat and leaving last as to avoid the discomfort of crowding.
@greyeaglem
@greyeaglem 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThisCallumPerson I always look around and not where the exits are if I am in a crowded place and I tend to sit near the edge of the room and if possible, near an exit. I don't like being in the middle of a crowd. I get claustophobic.
@blacknight2149
@blacknight2149 4 жыл бұрын
During the Twin Tower attacks the building officials told everyone below the floors hit by planes to sit at their desks and not evacuate. Thousands of people died because they listened to the authorities. Lesson here is definitely do what you think you need to do, such as evacuate, when you think there’s danger.
@Itried20takennames
@Itried20takennames 4 жыл бұрын
Dark Skies I agree with the message -that even if you are told a situation is fine, use your best judgment. I wouldn’t fault the 911 authorities, however. No one knew how the buildings would react to the crash and fuel. There was a huge concern that the damaged parts only would fall, crushing people trying to flee who otherwise would have been safe. A better example might be the Korean ferry disaster, in which the crew told people to stay below decks as the ship tilted more and more, then left in the few lifeboats before the ship capsized.
@plumeria66
@plumeria66 4 жыл бұрын
My sister was in mid town Manhattan on that day. She and her coworkers watched it all live in their office. She said it was a war zone and everyone was walking around the city like zombies. Confused and scared.
@99fruitbat
@99fruitbat 4 жыл бұрын
Same here in London with the Grenfell Tower Block fire . The fire department advised residents to not evacuate , and look what happened 😢😢😢
@serenacelestine
@serenacelestine 4 жыл бұрын
@@99fruitbat I was about to say the same. I really don't understand why they wouldn't get people to evacuate.
@toriwork8891
@toriwork8891 4 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the Sewol ship disaster in South Korea. The ship tipped and started filling with water and the people (if you can call them that) in charge told a bunch of school kids on a field trip to stay put in their rooms so they could safely escape. It's even worse than it sounds because SK really hammers in the idea of listening to authorities and collective think. Most of the kids drowned.
@oranplan1630
@oranplan1630 3 жыл бұрын
So yeah, when someone tells you to exit the building calmly, in a single-file line, you better damn do it. There's a reason these rules exist.
@lydiagalantmotherf
@lydiagalantmotherf 3 жыл бұрын
In primary school we were always told that, and the reason behind it. Then we were taught what to do in any case, like we had two cards. One green, signaling that we didn't have any injured and one red, indicating that we had someone or more injured, so that the firefighters knew who they had to rescue first, if we couldn't leave the room due to our escape route being obscured by fire or debris. We were never told when a test was going to happen, only after we had evacuated. Another important rule was to never take our belongings with us, they always warned us that that could cost us time and potentially out lives. Despite being so clear, they never scared us in that sense, only the most important without scaring twenty or more children so badly that they would panic. In primary school, it was a bell alarm, in my secondary school now it's a tone with an announcer going "Fire alarm, firealarm, please get out calm, but immediately", I think. Both effective though. I'm glad firecode has changed this way and always says "Better having gone out for nothing than not go out when there is something."
@imtoolazytomakeupaname
@imtoolazytomakeupaname 3 жыл бұрын
Ah I have an interesting story from K-8 school, where it was an actual lockdown, but the principal lied and told the school it was a drill. Based on the middle school sector's location, we could see a police actually arresting someone and leading them away; it can't be a drill. But all the other kids couldn't see from their location. Given the lack of transparency, I still don't know what actually happened, only there was an unauthorized adult on campus after our halloween event. Probably just a parent who forgot to do proper sign-in, there's also the "exciting" version of the story that two parents got into a fight.
@stevenstice6683
@stevenstice6683 3 жыл бұрын
I remember back in 2000, some dark storm clouds were building up over my home town. I was in music class at the time - in a trailer on campus - but half the class was looking out the window at the storm. I noticed the clouds were green, indicating a possible tornado. Just then, we got an announcement on the intercom saying to head to the downstairs cafeteria. Everyone did so perfectly: single file, no panicking, and staying with our respective classes. The principal even told us we did it perfectly despite having no tornado drills by that time in the school year. As for the tornado itself, I don't remember if it touched down outside of town, out of harm's way or if the storm didn't produce a tornado at all.
@keltzy
@keltzy 3 жыл бұрын
Trouble is, while we get drills in school, and occasionally in office spaces, leisure spaces can't really receive the same treatment. An emergency occurring in an unfamiliar space filled with strangers is much different than one occurring in a place you spend several hours every day in. Ideally, the employees of a venue have been trained to manage crowds in such occurrences, but it may not always be the case. And when there's that kind of uncertainty, it's a lot easier to panic.
@AJWRAJWR
@AJWRAJWR 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, sir.
@mattrost2574
@mattrost2574 8 ай бұрын
I was 22, and was in Mount Adams (across the river) from the fire. We had just watched "The Rocky Horror Picture Show" and saw a commotion on the hillside at Holy Cross Immaculata Church up the street. The lot and street were packed with people, watching the orange glow across the river, with their cars' AM radios blasting the live coverage. There was ash falling from the sky like snow (we later learned this ash was from a simultaneous paper mill fire on Cincinnati's west side). We were horrified. All of us knew people who visited / worked there. Sadly, relative to today's disasters, this was 'nothing'.
@icannotpretend5834
@icannotpretend5834 4 жыл бұрын
6:52 "They did not wish for their evening to be disrupted." 4 minutes later...fatally disrupted
@esteemedmortal5917
@esteemedmortal5917 4 жыл бұрын
I know, right? Evacuating can be a pain but getting burned or crushed to death is 100% going to ruin your night.
@icannotpretend5834
@icannotpretend5834 4 жыл бұрын
@@esteemedmortal5917 100%
@Frazzled_Chameleon
@Frazzled_Chameleon 4 жыл бұрын
So they had their state of existence disrupted instead. That's a fair trade-off for stupidity.
@ThemMightyPies
@ThemMightyPies 4 жыл бұрын
Leila Pereira Awww so superior aren’t we?
@Frazzled_Chameleon
@Frazzled_Chameleon 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThemMightyPies How is that being superior? lol. It's logical common sense, yeah? If you do stupid and life-endangering things, don't be surprised if you find yourself without life. Is this concept confusing to you?
@chodeoriki4113
@chodeoriki4113 4 жыл бұрын
The picture of the building burned to the ground, still having a full car park is eerie to say the least. Damn.
@BB-mn1ew
@BB-mn1ew 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing! You can see the interior walls of the newer rooms that were added on.
@TheWholeEntireCake
@TheWholeEntireCake 4 жыл бұрын
Can I just say that when you’re in a restaurant and the fire alarm sounds off, and the staff are telling you to immediately evacuate, just do it. Your scarf, cocktail and to-go container aren’t a priority to your safety. We had a fire alarm go off maybe two weeks ago during Sunday dinner service. It took almost an hour for the FD to roll in and vent out the basement prep kitchen/ storage. At least 30 guests were asking us to go back inside the building to grab them a glass of wine or to ask us to put in orders for them or even get their bill and cash them out. If you think staff should enter a building with an active fire risk to get you a wine, you’re genuinely insane. My life isn’t worth losing over wine. Just because you don’t SEE flames doesn’t mean that the evacuation and alarm aren’t real. 6pm reservation parties were pulling up and yelling at us about their reservation time being pushed back to accommodate the current evacuated guest’s return to dinner service. Get your priorities straight!
@em1osmurf
@em1osmurf 4 жыл бұрын
flames don't kill, generally, it's the superheated smoke and toxic gases--most victims die of suffocation due to combustion sucking out all oxygen. if the 911 dispatch asks if flames are visible, this tells the FD if anyone left inside that area is likely already long dead.
@vetsrus31
@vetsrus31 4 жыл бұрын
We had a similar experience. Except ours was a bomb. Our restaurant (A) was "safe" but the one across from us (B) was in trouble. A guy walked into (B) with a bomb strapped to him. Having heard and witnessed things going badly to (B), our staff tried to get the attention of our patrons and get them out of the building. We did not know it was a bomb, but we knew something was clearly wrong. The guests refused to leave until the FBI walked in, announcing there was a potential bomb in our facility/near by, that they finally got up and left. Overall both restaurants and guests were fine. They were able to subdue the bomber and remove the other bombs. Long story short, guests are stupid.
@brentvance3958
@brentvance3958 4 жыл бұрын
Apparently you didn’t listen, there was no fire alarm. It’s was built in the 30’s and no alarms were required.
@TheWholeEntireCake
@TheWholeEntireCake 4 жыл бұрын
@@brentvance3958 I must have missed that, my bad.
@vetsrus31
@vetsrus31 4 жыл бұрын
@@brentvance3958 yo, you don't have to be rude about it. Jeez. And she wasn't even complaining about the fire alarms. This was a post about guests. Maybe you should reread things and think before you speak. On a side note, for the 1970's the building was not up to code. It would have taken 1 inspector doing his job to put this place out of commission. Until the building got up to code.
@DukeCannon
@DukeCannon 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when this happened. My Dad pulled all seats out of our van, and helped transport bodies to the armory. You could see the smoke from our house.
@tayachting6345
@tayachting6345 2 жыл бұрын
Did you ride in that van again after that?
@giraffesinc.2193
@giraffesinc.2193 7 ай бұрын
Oh wow, bless your Dad!
@richardroush16
@richardroush16 3 жыл бұрын
My Dad was supposed to be there that night. He worked as head accountant for Ceader Hills Dairy that was having a business meeting there. The majority of employees that attended died. We attended funerals for two weeks after the disaster.
@AlmightySmorg
@AlmightySmorg 3 жыл бұрын
Why didn't he end up going?
@plucas9324
@plucas9324 3 жыл бұрын
They were having a business meeting at the John Davidson concert??? 99% of the victims were in the cabaret room, not in a business meeting.
@purplestingstress
@purplestingstress 3 жыл бұрын
@@plucas9324 And yet the video clearly stated that the total amount of people in the entire building was well over 3000, with the amount of people in the Cabaret Room itself was well over twice the legal limit. It's entirely possible that some of the people who were there for business might have decided to take in a show. The video also said that the vast majority of the victims were in the Cabaret Room - never gave a percentage. It's always a tragedy when club owners put profit over safety. Since we don't know which victims were associated with what area they were found in and where they worked, lived, etc, we should not assume that the original poster is lying. It's entirely possible that because of his father's job, if they were conducting business there, it's plausible that he and his family would have most likely attended numerous funeral services in the following few weeks.
@CallieRoseMartinsyde
@CallieRoseMartinsyde 3 жыл бұрын
@@plucas9324 The video did say there were other private events going on that night. Why do you assume they were conducting business at the concert?
@plucas9324
@plucas9324 3 жыл бұрын
@@CallieRoseMartinsyde If they were there for a business meeting, what were they doing in the Cabaret room? With less than five exceptions, everyone who died was in the Cabaret room.
@Fghwads
@Fghwads 3 жыл бұрын
Ever since I discovered this channel, I feel like I’ve gained so much respect for building safety codes lol
@thebrowns5337
@thebrowns5337 3 жыл бұрын
Things like codes are basic common sense...people hate them because they are seen as rules. People can be very daft.
@filanfyretracker
@filanfyretracker 2 жыл бұрын
@@thebrowns5337 I tend to one thing about codes, especially fire codes. They are very likely written in bodies. Cities to this day still constantly fight against well monied developer lobbies over something still not required, fire sprinkler systems in MDUs. Aka apartments. Two fires just this week as of the date of this post(1/9/2022) probably would have had low to no death toll if sprinklers had existed. One in a Philly apartment and one in NYC. Grenfell in the UK also had no fire sprinklers afaik. Though Grenfell had secondary bag of worms of being clad in materials that did quite enjoy combustion.
@mackenziewilliams4507
@mackenziewilliams4507 2 жыл бұрын
What’s that phrase? “safety regulations are written in blood”
@tjp2109
@tjp2109 2 жыл бұрын
Same here....lol
@matthewmosier8439
@matthewmosier8439 2 жыл бұрын
@@filanfyretracker I have mixed views of safety codes. First, they are ridiculously complicated. A simple requirement would be one thing, what you have instead is thousands of pages of lawyer speak designed to make construction highly expensive and simultaneously protect people with money (this is essentially the case with every area of law that people allow to become overcomplicated) I know this because I've worked in the construction field and watched the innefficiency and "safety" regs perform exactly the opposite of how they were intended to. So, put in sprinklers, advocate for doors that open outwards in public spaces, but don't be a naive person who shuts down potential projects due to needlessly complicated building codes.
@terrikatz4854
@terrikatz4854 4 жыл бұрын
I remember reports of this fire when I was a child "stacked like cordword". Eversince, whenever I am in large crowded rooms, I make myself aware of the exits and always heed fire alarms.
@5roundsrapid263
@5roundsrapid263 4 жыл бұрын
Smart woman. 👍
@Sammy-mp9xn
@Sammy-mp9xn 4 жыл бұрын
Me too
@micheleshively8557
@micheleshively8557 4 жыл бұрын
I remember this as a child too. I hate crowds
@truthseeker2321
@truthseeker2321 4 жыл бұрын
Just two years later, this tragedy would be repeated across the river, during the WHO concert, when people got crushed trying to get into the Colosseum, and only a couple of doors were unlocked.
@gowdsake7103
@gowdsake7103 4 жыл бұрын
Trained in the royal navy I always know where the exits are more importantly know where people will run and will go the other way
@noomfy-mopkebab3632
@noomfy-mopkebab3632 2 жыл бұрын
So many of these FH videos have “the crush” in them. It’s a little terrifying how quickly we can turn from civilised and sensible people having a good night out to literal stampeding animals with little to no thought process aside from “run away from danger” Whenever I hear fire and crushes I literally get chills thinking what these people would have seen and experienced
@probrickgamer
@probrickgamer 2 жыл бұрын
The crush just happened again in south Korea. This is why I hate crowds
@arturoaguilar6002
@arturoaguilar6002 2 жыл бұрын
@@probrickgamer The weird thing is that there didn't seem to be a reason for the stampede in South Korea. As far as I know, it was a narrow road downhill, people overcrowded it, tripped and crushed others or got crushed (no external source danger or urgency to cause the stampede). It has me confused.
@Gail1Marie
@Gail1Marie Жыл бұрын
There was a similar "crowd crush" situation in Israel where a road narrowed. Itaewon in Seoul, like many Asian cities not built for vehicle access, has its share of narrow lanes. @@arturoaguilar6002
@friendlycryptid6797
@friendlycryptid6797 4 жыл бұрын
If somebody tells you there's a fire- There's probably a fire.
@doge.studio
@doge.studio 3 жыл бұрын
even if there isn’t, better safe than sorry
@TrashwareArt
@TrashwareArt 3 жыл бұрын
Unless it's really just a movie theatre
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 3 жыл бұрын
People have misheard it as "fight!"
@christiancinnabars1402
@christiancinnabars1402 3 жыл бұрын
Especially if they’re a worker of the place. You know, the ones that would want you seated more than anyone else there.
@sithlordhibiscus9936
@sithlordhibiscus9936 2 жыл бұрын
... and if they're not a fire but they said it as "joke", it's actually a CRIME and you're still right to evacuate.
@jillbecker8651
@jillbecker8651 4 жыл бұрын
My neighbors died in this fire. A very loving and caring couple with three wonderful kids. So sad..
@visnichba
@visnichba 4 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Cincinnati. There was no small number of families that lost both parents.
@truthseeker2321
@truthseeker2321 4 жыл бұрын
@@visnichba My school bus driver, her husband, and two of their friends died in that fire. I was 13 then, and the news( channel 12 in Cincinnati) had a list of the confirmed dead, that was being shown. There were four children in our school that were orphaned that tragic night. R.I.P. To the victims.
@suestarmom
@suestarmom 4 жыл бұрын
My uncle was a volunteer firefighter and EMT at this disaster. Even now, he gets really upset if it comes up in conversation. I didn't get to hear the war stories from that disaster, but I remember how upset/not himself he was when this happened. It was a nightmare.
@agotti4933
@agotti4933 4 жыл бұрын
And no one thinks of the poor firemen who suffer get hurt emotional mental physical. They sugger in silence half the time. God bless ur family!!!
@lorinking972
@lorinking972 4 жыл бұрын
@@agotti4933 Amen to you for your compassion of our great Fire🚒 Heroes 🔥🚑
@truthseeker2321
@truthseeker2321 4 жыл бұрын
S Dees- Undoubtedly it was the worst tragedy he ever dealt with. He was probably used to seeing a dead body or two, in auto accidents or other fires, but this one would have been overwhelming. I'm sorry for him, as well as the victims.
@alexburt6995
@alexburt6995 4 жыл бұрын
It must be hard for people like your uncle having to deal with those memories. He made it less terrible by being there and doing his duty and I hope that knowledge brings him some comfort.
@deborahdanhauer8525
@deborahdanhauer8525 3 жыл бұрын
So sorry...nobody could see what he did and remain the same😪
@debbietros1211
@debbietros1211 Жыл бұрын
I was there a week before it burned down. My senior dinner dance was held there. My Uncle was a bartender in one of the rooms, I went to see him to say hi. As I walked to find him I noticed every exit was blocked by stacks of chairs. I asked my uncle about that he said that's where they want them. In the middle of the club was a big bar set up with bartenders. It literally was a maze. The night it burned down, my uncle was bartending. He and a good friend helped pull people out, grabbing arms, hair anything they could grab onto people to pull them out. His friend went in and never came back out. My Uncle was never the same after that. To this day I have no idea what happened to my uncle, he just left the state
@nyotamwuaji6484
@nyotamwuaji6484 3 жыл бұрын
The moment you said "when they opened the door two things happened" I immediately thought "oh fuck, that gave fresh oxygen to a probably already dying fire didn't it...." I wonder if it might have actually burned itself out from lack of air had the room stayed closed....
@bogdangabrielonete3467
@bogdangabrielonete3467 3 жыл бұрын
When I heard that I was afraid the fire would spew out like water under pressure due to the sudden rush of oxygen and just burn the staff that went in to check. Think that scene in "Another" where you open the doors and there is a wall of fire incoming within a second
@ancientmaverick13
@ancientmaverick13 3 жыл бұрын
It likely would have continued through the walls and more people would have been trapped.
@nyotamwuaji6484
@nyotamwuaji6484 3 жыл бұрын
@@ancientmaverick13 maybe. But contained the way it was, most likely in a wall, and all the smoke, all the oxygen was probably gone, or at least most of it. It probably could have choked itself out and just been embers. But then you still have embers in a very flammable building...
@bradenpotts
@bradenpotts 3 жыл бұрын
@@ancientmaverick13 it said at the beginning the building itself was supposed to be made of fire proof materials and mostly it was the additions and decorations that were flammable so perhaps it might not have have burnt through the walls and maybe would have burnt out if not given more oxygen
@billolsen4360
@billolsen4360 3 жыл бұрын
Something out of that movie Backdraft
@tracydeyhle4688
@tracydeyhle4688 4 жыл бұрын
I had a neighbor who died in that fire. She was the last one found; her pregnant body, melted metal. She left 2 young children. Sad day for our neighborhood and her 2 kids
@pinkrose5796
@pinkrose5796 4 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry to hear that the kids lost their mother like that: (. Losing a parent is hard enough but the fact that it's on the news as a daily reminder is even more difficult.
@rainfallsdistances
@rainfallsdistances 4 жыл бұрын
What was her name?
@tracydeyhle4688
@tracydeyhle4688 4 жыл бұрын
@@rainfallsdistances I inly remember her last name prior to her remarriage. That was Gilbert.
@tracydeyhle4688
@tracydeyhle4688 4 жыл бұрын
@@rainfallsdistances after some digging, I found out her name. Carolyn Thornhill. Sadly, they lost a lot of family that night
@greyeaglem
@greyeaglem 4 жыл бұрын
She and another woman were part of a fashion show taking place in one of the upstairs banquet rooms. They were trapped in a dressing or restroom right above where the fire started and couldn't get out. Their bodies were found in the dining room below several days after the fire. The whole thing was very sad and that community still grieves.
@ConsciousRobot
@ConsciousRobot 4 жыл бұрын
I'm honestly surprised it wasn't a higher death count considering how many people were there
@JodysJourney
@JodysJourney 4 жыл бұрын
Conscious Robot That was my first thought too.
@brianfuller7691
@brianfuller7691 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Could have been much worse.
@totallyjess
@totallyjess 4 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing
@womanwarrior89
@womanwarrior89 4 жыл бұрын
That young man certainly helped those numbers be lower. Total hero.
@sunslastphase
@sunslastphase 3 жыл бұрын
The loss of life is really emphasized, and hits home, when at the end of this video that last photograph shows all of the vehicles of the victims, remaining parked in the parking lot waiting for their owners to never return.
@southernoregoncatmom6519
@southernoregoncatmom6519 3 жыл бұрын
That is so darn sad.
@heard3879
@heard3879 3 жыл бұрын
You know, you're right. I was so focused on the burned-out building itself, I paid no attention to those cars. Wow, that is sad.
@k.c1126
@k.c1126 2 жыл бұрын
That also caught my eye ....
@probrickgamer
@probrickgamer 2 жыл бұрын
The cars are probably crying
@LonesomeDrifter1987
@LonesomeDrifter1987 2 жыл бұрын
some of those cars were probably returned to the survivors later but it still is really depressing that some of those cars may have been some of those people's livelihoods only to never return to their homes that night.
@southoripper
@southoripper 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty sad how some of the folks who took the warning seriously got lost in the maze of corridors trying to exit the building. Terrible.
@bemusedbandersnatch2069
@bemusedbandersnatch2069 3 жыл бұрын
I think the implication was more that the people who managed to escape despite the crush had trouble. The people who evacuated when given the warning were probably pretty close to the exits or out of the building by that point because the lights hadn't gone out yet.
@plucas9324
@plucas9324 3 жыл бұрын
Why is it sad? Only two people outside of the cabaret room died.
@fieldysgrl98
@fieldysgrl98 4 жыл бұрын
My mom's friend was there. Her husband brought her to safety and then went back in. He never came out.
@pinkrose5796
@pinkrose5796 4 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry to hear that! He probably went back in to save people or someone he knew not realizing how quickly the fire was spreading. He did what he thought was right and unfortunately last his life 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@dellahicks7231
@dellahicks7231 4 жыл бұрын
How sad. 😢
@MC-ii3qk
@MC-ii3qk 4 жыл бұрын
Bless him.
@feliz1443
@feliz1443 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus how brave you would have to be to go back in after escaping, just at the thought of possibly saving one more life
@gowdsake7103
@gowdsake7103 4 жыл бұрын
If you dont know what you are doing NEVER return into a fire
@thomasoates3003
@thomasoates3003 4 жыл бұрын
The level of research and production quality is why this is one of the best channels on KZbin. I've learned more from these than many documentaries on TV.
@icannotpretend5834
@icannotpretend5834 4 жыл бұрын
It's really good stuff
@pbohearn
@pbohearn 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but your voice sounds different. I like the other guy.
@thomasoates3003
@thomasoates3003 4 жыл бұрын
@@pbohearn I think there's only one narrator.
@chaddallesandro2057
@chaddallesandro2057 4 жыл бұрын
He is using an old picture of the club when it was a country club. It did not look that way in 1977. It was good though
@acwhit1593
@acwhit1593 2 жыл бұрын
The fire alarm went off in my hotel last night at 12:00 am... I was almost asleep. I jumped straight out of the bed and threw my clothes on and called the front desk. The operator stated that there was no fire just a malfunction in the elevator but just to be safe the fire department was on its way. I was on the fourth floor. I considered going back to bed for a moment and then remembered this video! I went downstairs and waited until the fire department gave the all clear. I lost an hour's sleep but I had peace of mind that I made the right decision.
@samberlyrocks
@samberlyrocks 3 жыл бұрын
I was once in a business that had caught on fire back in the late 80’s. Everyone got out safely, and it was amazing how quickly the place was engulfed in flames. My friends and I stood there in amazement, saying “we were just in there!”
@thatonecatwiththetophat
@thatonecatwiththetophat 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Walter Bailey. I will ask, though, who in their right mind would NOT leave once they heard there word "fire"? I'd be outta there as fast as possible, screw my luxurious evening.
@jesuszamora6949
@jesuszamora6949 3 жыл бұрын
I know, right? What's the worst that can happen, you come back later on their bill?
@Lauranna
@Lauranna 4 жыл бұрын
People really have no concept of how fast fire spreads. Everyone should watch at least the first couple of minutes of the Station fire. That building was engulfed within 2 minutes of the fire starting. Never ignore a fire alarm. Seconds are precious in situations like that. Edit: Just to add, it took 30 seconds for the fire alarms to start in the Station fire. By that stage the entire back wall of the building was burning. I’ve never seen a fire spread so quick. Edit 2: It’s the Station fire not the Station House fire. My bad!
@greyeaglem
@greyeaglem 4 жыл бұрын
So true. Two or three seconds of indecision can cost you your life.
@littleplague5988
@littleplague5988 4 жыл бұрын
88 seconds is all they had to evacuate without serious burns or worse. The band also used outdoor pyrotechnics causing the soundproofing foam to light up and the fact the bouncers weren't letting people out the door by the stage claiming that it was for the band only. It also had no sprinkler system because of Rhode Island's fucked up fire code for buildings of a certain age not requiring one. Yet they were supposed to have one the night of the fire because the building changed use/capacity. And what's on KZbin now isn't even the full video of the fire, it's an edited version for fire training/safety. The unedited version was removed likely because of the backlash that the news station faced over the camera man slowing people down in the narrow hallway. Either way it's something that could have been avoided had the owners not cheaped out on the foam and Great White having some common sense in realizing that outdoor pyrotechnics might be bad in such a small building
@rapman5363
@rapman5363 4 жыл бұрын
It’s not called the “Station House”..it’s called the Station Nightclub.
@terrimichaels3018
@terrimichaels3018 4 жыл бұрын
The scariest 88 seconds anyone could have in that disaster and 100 lives lost. Ty was a band leader who went back in that miasma to claim his guitar but didn't make it back out. Ty left behind a widow and young son.
@airhart6614
@airhart6614 4 жыл бұрын
@@littleplague5988 I remember reading about that disaster in The London Free Press that included a photo of spent pyrotechnic cartridges that I'm very familiar with just a couple of 7second gerbs made by LeMaitre. When detonated they send up sparks about 6'-8' in the air for 7secs. I always mount the pods facing downwards from the ceiling as to maximize their effect I would rarely use them outdoors. I'd prefer the 16oz & 32oz ones for out door shows. The article did mention how the sparks ignited the sound proofing however they failed to say what it was made of. I had figured that it was either the same material as egg flats that have been painted recently. Or someone had intentionally started the fire for some reason
@nickshank4520
@nickshank4520 Жыл бұрын
I had a teacher in high school that was in the Cabaret Room at the time of the fire. He was one of the first to leave because he was used to fire drills at the school and was taking no chances. One thing not mentioned in the video that he told us about was that there were many people that assumed the announcement from the stage was all part of the show. The first-hand testimony from someone that remembered barely getting out with his family makes this have a very personal connection to me. Thank you for sharing!
@stellanatore
@stellanatore 4 жыл бұрын
We had a fire in my apartment building about a year ago. I packed up my cats, after assessing that there was only smoke & not heat in the hallway, I evacuated. Only myself & ONE other couple were standing in the parking lot. We called 911 & I stupidly asked if we should have evacuated 😂 It took out two units & part of the roof. The poor firefighters had to waste time telling people to evacuate, it still concerns me that I'm surrounded by complete morons...
@chelseal654
@chelseal654 4 жыл бұрын
We had a fire at the apartment complex where I lived last year. It was on the other side of the property from my building. It went up like it was nothing and they couldn’t do a thing. Thankfully everyone was safe but the building was a total loss. Ten fire trucks showed up because the buildings were fairly close together and they were worried they might catch. And this was in little town nowhere
@MrEazyE357
@MrEazyE357 4 жыл бұрын
Our apartment building burned when I was around 19-20. Our neighbor across the hall, who it turned out started the fire, ended up dying in the fire. He left his apartment, tried to warn everyone, and then went back in his apartment for some reason and never made it back out.
@stellanatore
@stellanatore 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrEazyE357 How sad 🥺 What a nice person though to let everyone know!
@Odin33356
@Odin33356 4 жыл бұрын
You can certainly thank premature umbilical cord cutting for that , no doubt.
@Odin33356
@Odin33356 4 жыл бұрын
@Roy G Biv the dumb down starts at birth with premature umbilical cord cutting in this evil nazi hell
@stargazerwolfrider5071
@stargazerwolfrider5071 3 жыл бұрын
With all those violations I'm surprised the death toll wasn't higher.
@8kmamba66
@8kmamba66 3 жыл бұрын
Fr but fire people were there in 4 mins
@perturabo7825
@perturabo7825 3 жыл бұрын
If it wasn’t for Bailey it probably would’ve been twice that high
@christarista1980
@christarista1980 3 жыл бұрын
This was actually a mafia hit! There is a book about it Beverly Hills Supper Club Fire, The Untold Story of Kentucky’s Worst Tragedy...you wont put the book down!
@dougobrien4877
@dougobrien4877 3 жыл бұрын
@@christarista1980 I have that book. It’s marvelous. There was an obvious cover up as was discussed in the book. What’s sad is that people noticed smoke rising from the roof as early as around five thirty and no one reported it. The Schillings were not found to be negligent. The Zebra Room was demolished on the Monday after the fire destroying forensic evidence. The evidence that it was arson was overwhelming.
@DanknDerpyGamer
@DanknDerpyGamer 4 жыл бұрын
165 deaths or so ... given the club was packed with up to 3,000 guests, that's a hell of a miracle, that the death toll was that low.
@theflaggedyoutuberii4311
@theflaggedyoutuberii4311 4 жыл бұрын
It was 1,300 not 3,000
@DanknDerpyGamer
@DanknDerpyGamer 4 жыл бұрын
@@theflaggedyoutuberii4311* 1,300 in just the Cabaret Room according to the video.
@wiretamer5710
@wiretamer5710 4 жыл бұрын
@@derrickmcadoo3804 I apprieciate your point in principal, but its not quite correct under these specific circumstances. Yes, stagered evacuation is important, but what happened here was the message did not get through to the majority of people. Water sprinkler systems and fire alarms would have saved most of the victims. The cabortett room was a death trap because there were no fire exits opening from the room directly to the outside. This is an issue that was built into the design of the building. The bottleneck doors that killed most of the victims were INTERNAL doors. Many people got lost in the maze of corridors before they could exit the building. Nine people died after taking the wrong turn into a large cupboard. The designers should have considered prominant emergancy exits when planning the layout. You can only do this by 'creative play' where you run emergancy senarios with volunteers. Today they have software to simulate evacuations. In this case fire exits in a straight line through the walls, until you reach the outside. NO twists and turns. No dead end corridors. or dead loop corridors running around the building without any external doorway.
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 4 жыл бұрын
@@wiretamer5710 overcrowding, illegal building, flammable decor. Gee, where have I heard that before? Oh, wait. Iroquois 1903, 602 dead Cocoanut Grove, 1942, 490 dead (2 always counted twice) Rhythm Nightclub, 1940, 290 died. Fire started at the ONLY exit, causing many severe injuries... This one. The Station, 2003...100 dead Fun fact: fire codes were around since BEFORE the Iroquois, as were MODERN fire sprinklers.
@nayru1855
@nayru1855 4 жыл бұрын
Derrick McAdoo probably would’ve been better if they all left. because no one was panicking at that point and would’ve all exited calmly versus most people desperately trying to evacuate at the last minute.
@lindadriscoll507
@lindadriscoll507 3 жыл бұрын
To his credit, John Davidsin helped many escape and find their way out that night before escaping himself. Sadly his close friend and music director Douglas Herro died that night in the fire. Davidson later held several charity concerts where all the proceeds went to assist the families of those that perished.
@elliotburing87
@elliotburing87 4 жыл бұрын
My god, my heart breaks every time I hear the words “human crush” in videos like this after seeing a few documentaries on the Station nightclub fire.
@spider-queen
@spider-queen 3 жыл бұрын
I had the exact same thought after seeing the footage of what that truly looks like
@desertpunk7588
@desertpunk7588 3 жыл бұрын
John Davidson's brother, Dr. David Davidson, saved my life in 1983, at Cottage Hospital in Santa Barbara, CA; when my appendix burst! Then, for Christmas that same year, he sent me a Christmas Card, forgiving the $2,500 that was remaining on the bill my family was paying!!!
@greyeaglem
@greyeaglem 3 жыл бұрын
My sister was a ward clerk there at about that time. She mentioned seeing many celebrities there, but never mentioned Dr. Davidson. She might not have known who John Davidson was.
@jessicar3291
@jessicar3291 2 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful act of kindness. Wishing you awesome Christmases to come.
@fumanpoo4725
@fumanpoo4725 2 жыл бұрын
Class act!
@fart63
@fart63 7 ай бұрын
Sounds like a lovely guy but…. His parents named him David Davidson??😂
@GlennDavey
@GlennDavey 3 жыл бұрын
"But this ship can't sink!" "She's made of iron, sir, I assure you she can."
@JordansBeauty22
@JordansBeauty22 3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@d.y.h.w.
@d.y.h.w. 3 жыл бұрын
Right!
@NNAAWWTT
@NNAAWWTT 3 жыл бұрын
#3 in top ten comments
@stefjames95
@stefjames95 3 жыл бұрын
...”and she will”
@amydamjanovic9183
@amydamjanovic9183 3 жыл бұрын
"And she will. It's a mathematical certainty."
@datdude3327
@datdude3327 2 жыл бұрын
If an employee jumps on stage and yells fire, only for you to remain patiently seated, you’ve definitely earned yourself a spot in the Darwin awards.
@mcrfan343
@mcrfan343 2 жыл бұрын
Right? If somebody said fire, I'd be the first one out the door.
@crossfire2045
@crossfire2045 2 жыл бұрын
@@mcrfan343 lack of common sense tends to be the death of humans because they ignore human instinct
@probrickgamer
@probrickgamer 2 жыл бұрын
You aren't supposed to yell fire though
@crossfire2045
@crossfire2045 2 жыл бұрын
@@probrickgamer you aren't allowed to now because of idiots screaming it when there wasn't a fire causing people to panic and end up dying from being crushed.
@arturoaguilar6002
@arturoaguilar6002 2 жыл бұрын
Group thinking and peer pressure can override good judgment tho.
@inigofenwick5108
@inigofenwick5108 4 жыл бұрын
You are going to blow up one day man. This level of research and originality with every video matches and tops those channels with millions of subs. Keep at it and stay safe!
@Ay0ubM
@Ay0ubM 4 жыл бұрын
spontaneous combustion is nothing to joke about
@heyimjadelouise
@heyimjadelouise 4 жыл бұрын
Whose voice is this? Sounds like Joshua miles 😂
@thomasmorris4449
@thomasmorris4449 4 жыл бұрын
He's starting to blow up. The algorithm is shining upon him.
@darknesskingsized8996
@darknesskingsized8996 4 жыл бұрын
Currently at 17k subs!
@illbeyourstumbleine
@illbeyourstumbleine 4 жыл бұрын
He's doubled subs in like 3 days!
@taylorkessen8772
@taylorkessen8772 3 жыл бұрын
My grandma used to work there part time around the Christmas season for some extra money. She worked in the coat room. Luckily, she was not working during the time of the fire. She says that many of the emergency exits (especially the ones near the bar) were bricked over to prevent people from jumping their tab. She also says that mob activity was pretty flagrant there.
@BrianAndresMusic
@BrianAndresMusic 3 жыл бұрын
All true. My father was a professional musician and had played the Club many times. The place was definitely mob owned. Numerous musicians died that night. I remember watching the news when they listed the names of the dead and my father writing down the names of all of the people he knew and worked with.
@imstupidbut
@imstupidbut 2 жыл бұрын
youre thinking of cocoanut grove
@nachtegaelw5389
@nachtegaelw5389 2 жыл бұрын
Omg that’s horrible!! How did that pass inspection?
@taylorkessen8772
@taylorkessen8772 2 жыл бұрын
@@nachtegaelw5389 Money talks.
@Gail1Marie
@Gail1Marie 2 жыл бұрын
@@nachtegaelw5389 The farther south you go, the more corruption. When I was stationed in Biloxi, Mississippi, the sheriff was allowing drug smugglers to drop bales of marijuana on his farm from an airplane!
@a.mansager572
@a.mansager572 3 жыл бұрын
The saddest thing in all these stories is that if people didn’t start panicking and made an orderly way out they probably wouldn’t have blocked the doors and gotten stuck, but unfortunately it’s human nature to panic like that
@bethmorano1452
@bethmorano1452 3 жыл бұрын
It’s animal behavior. I agree. It’s fight or flight.
@sashasavisha146
@sashasavisha146 3 жыл бұрын
Actually studies show that not everyone panics initially. Most try to form an orderly procession. But the ones that panic create agitation in others. So the people that panic influence the others negatively.
@greyeaglem
@greyeaglem 3 жыл бұрын
By the time the panic set in the room was on fire and people were starting to catch fire. Some made it out only to drop dead seconds later from toxic fumes.
@mwheape
@mwheape 2 жыл бұрын
They didn't just get stuck. The toxic fumes overwhelmed them as they got to the door. Everything created toxic fumes. I was haunted but this tragedy for years and was relieved to learn that they were dead long before the flames reached them. In my mind, i could just imagine such horrible pain of people burning to death. If a few protocols had been in place, many of them would have lived.
@labaronnedecorbeauviolette5865
@labaronnedecorbeauviolette5865 2 жыл бұрын
@@sashasavisha146 My sister is one of these irrational panicky types. A few years ago her and I were in a coffee shop when an earthquake hit. It was a relatively small quake that caused no damages whatsoever. When the shop started to shake, my sister's initial reaction was to scream, then grab me, shove me to the floor and proceed to climb on top of my head and shoulders. To this day, I still do not understand why that was her first instinct, which was so stupid, irrational and unsafe.... All I know is that I refuse to go to any public events or anything of that nature with her.
@briannefowler
@briannefowler 3 жыл бұрын
Considering it was packed to twice capacity the death toll seems surprisingly low.
@wht-rabt-obj
@wht-rabt-obj 4 жыл бұрын
That busboy was a brave young man.
@dreerasmus1812
@dreerasmus1812 4 жыл бұрын
Give that man a Bells!
@connierichards9121
@connierichards9121 4 жыл бұрын
My cousin Carla Eckler work there as a server at the time of the fire. She was lucky and managed to get out along with some others.
@strawberrys9854
@strawberrys9854 4 жыл бұрын
CheesyDip aye, did you not hear what the narrator said? Half these people didn’t listen. Her cousin probably tried and no one listened. After no one listens, you just leave. I bet if you were in her cousin’s situation, you’d leave too after trying your best.
@YoungFraggle
@YoungFraggle 4 жыл бұрын
CheesyDip Chill. Even the firefighters couldn’t save them and that’s their literal job.
@GEMINITREKKER
@GEMINITREKKER 4 жыл бұрын
Im glad she did.
@bloodandiron7912
@bloodandiron7912 4 жыл бұрын
CheesyDip you can’t help stupid, you tell someone that the buildings on fire and they don’t give a shit. Then your better off leaving when possible, best not be sandwiched into a burning hell hole when you have the option to leave and live another day because people are too stupid to not listen.
@AgrestisAnima
@AgrestisAnima 4 жыл бұрын
@CheesyDip yeah because you surely would do the same too. I hope you never get in such a situation, but if...try to remember your words once you're safe
@carolyn7276
@carolyn7276 3 жыл бұрын
fire walls are so insanely important. i live in connected apartment buildings and a fire broke out in the one next to mine. if there wasn’t a fire wall it would’ve spread and i could’ve lost everything
@YokozunaNumber1
@YokozunaNumber1 2 жыл бұрын
There are several Cincinnati tragedies on your channel, and as someone who is from the Cincinnati Metro it is nice to see that these tragedies are commemorated by your viewers from around the globe. Your videos are well-made and deeply respectful. Much appreciated.
@donkeyboy585
@donkeyboy585 3 жыл бұрын
“The building is on fire!” “But... John Davidson “
@crescentmoon4344
@crescentmoon4344 3 жыл бұрын
🤦🏻‍♀️
@ericsmith8373
@ericsmith8373 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine the death toll if this would have happened when Phyllis Diller was appearing.
@Shrumt
@Shrumt 3 жыл бұрын
And where are we now? I don’t even know who John Davidson is. People gotta get their priorities straight.
@dragonsword7370
@dragonsword7370 3 жыл бұрын
"Screw him! I'm only staying if James Brown were here tonight!" - he was listed on the advert entertainment sheet before Chuck freaking Berry the next month!
@wintersbattleofbands1144
@wintersbattleofbands1144 3 жыл бұрын
...and since when is John Davidson a popular anything... Oh, right. Kentucky. He was like a C list celebrity at best.
@pichu42bleh23
@pichu42bleh23 4 жыл бұрын
Most of my mom's family died in that fire and the only reason her parents didn't was because there was a bowling tournament. People tried their best to get out but it was waaaayyyy over capacity for fire safety.
@guardiane
@guardiane 3 жыл бұрын
I think my first question, from now on, when entering ANY building is, "How old is it, what's the fire escape route and do you have any sprinklers?"
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure that age matters. I've seen old buildings go up (Station, 2003) and brand new like the Iroquois.
@NotMykl
@NotMykl 2 жыл бұрын
Just LOOK for the sprinklers, manual stations, strobes, horns and door releases. LOOK and READ the escape route maps that are attached to the room doors. Count the doors between you and the fire escape doors. When a fire alarm goes off LEAVE unless you are specifically told the alarms are being tested. In a fire don't hold the damn inside doors open, they close to block off the smoke from one corridor to another. And under no circumstance bitch because the sprinklers didn't go off in your room while you were in it. You don't want to be in the room when the sprinklers go off as you'll be dead from the heat that activates the sprinkler heads.
@andyphillips7435
@andyphillips7435 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely definitely sprinklers.
@MightyMoon1
@MightyMoon1 3 жыл бұрын
The people who didn’t listen to the young man that tried to tell them to leave the Cabaret Room and then minutes later started dying must have been cursing themselves for their decision. What sad last thoughts they must have had. 😔
@JeffTaylorRomania
@JeffTaylorRomania 4 жыл бұрын
And still we have jerks try to disable fire alarms so they can smoke in their hotel rooms
@gabiocampos
@gabiocampos 4 жыл бұрын
Omg that’s scary! Do people do that? 😭
@chilliinsanity6898
@chilliinsanity6898 4 жыл бұрын
I used to smoke weed in hotel rooms all the time but I wouldn't disable the smoke alarm I would just lift up the roof panel in the bathroom and blow the smoke into the roof. Obviously not a good idea but it is something I did when I was travelling.
@WitchidWitchid
@WitchidWitchid 4 жыл бұрын
@Michael Uhlir Yes it should.
@The_Notorious_N.O.E.
@The_Notorious_N.O.E. 4 жыл бұрын
I worked in a hotel once and people would constantly try to disable the smoke detectors by putting wet damp towels to cover them. Of course this never worked but it didn't stop cigarette and weed smokers from trying. Also, as a little tip for everyone, when you're staying at a hotel please don't use the emergency water sprinkler heads to hang coats, bags, or laundry. I've seen this go terribly wrong too often and trust me it doesn't take much for those things to break and when they do absolutely everything in your room and the adjoining rooms and probably the rooms right below you will be completely swimming in dirty filthy water. The more you know
@marysupernova7780
@marysupernova7780 4 жыл бұрын
@@The_Notorious_N.O.E. this happened in my apt building 2 months ago! Anyone living in a building with a sprinkler system like this would be wise to invest in renters insurance. You never know if an upstairs neighbor is using the sprinklers to tie a line for hanging laundry to dry, or if maintenance messed up and the sprinkler system is going to malfunction and flood everyone out...
@douglasramsey8028
@douglasramsey8028 4 жыл бұрын
I used to manage SAV-ON (think Walgreen's or Rite AId but the size of a large grocery store) and a fire broke out. Smoke was billowing down the aisles and I STILL had trouble evacuating the building because folk's "just needed to get a couple more items" or were "already in line to be checked out".
@ceruleanc505
@ceruleanc505 4 жыл бұрын
Oof! Sometimes you think Darwin's right.. But of course he isn't. Sheeple will be sheeple.
@mjallen1308
@mjallen1308 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Charles sheeeeeeeit I’d be stealing shit on the way out!
@lindseyosborn154
@lindseyosborn154 4 жыл бұрын
Lol as someone who works in a grocery store I know damn good and well my coworkers would already be out. Screw ur groceries, Karen 😂
@ceruleanc505
@ceruleanc505 4 жыл бұрын
@@lindseyosborn154 😂 as they should!!
@tlwest21
@tlwest21 4 жыл бұрын
@@mjallen1308 nice armpit!
@Peter-pv8xx
@Peter-pv8xx 3 жыл бұрын
I was in a casino one morning, around 2am the alarm started going off the strobe lights were flashing, there weren't many people so when I saw a security guard passing by I asked him if we needed to evacuate the building, he looked at me and said, I don't know, and walked away, to play it safe I left and when I exited the parking garage the street was full of Atlantic Cities finest, I never found out what happened, but what shocked me was the security guards cavalier attitude and complete lack of knowledge or curiosity.
@TimeLady8
@TimeLady8 2 жыл бұрын
My son is a massage therapist who was working an employee appreciation event at a business with 2 others. (This took place in Texas) He said that at some point an alarm went off. He waited for an announcement, heard nothing, and immediately grabbed his phone, the tip jar, and started for the door. His co-workers were puzzled by this. "But...there wasn't an announcement." Him: I'm from New York, I'm leaving. (This was post 9-11) Them: Oh. (They all followed.) They were almost at the exit when the announcement came to clear the building.
@mikaross4671
@mikaross4671 2 жыл бұрын
@@TimeLady8 He took the tip jar! Your son is smart (fellow new yorker here) and has his priorities.
@Foxyreacts444
@Foxyreacts444 3 жыл бұрын
My ex-husband, Robert Nelson, was a volunteer life squad member who was called in to help. Everything happened so fast that he was sent to the make shift morgue to help families id the bodies based on jewlery or clothing not burned. So very sad. He took me there the night he proposed.
@Guyferraritheone
@Guyferraritheone 4 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you cover these lesser known stories, I’ve learned about many tragic things because of your channel that I would had never found out!
@pepperwestwood
@pepperwestwood 4 жыл бұрын
Same here. It’s like he finds the rare Pokémon’s of true horror lol
@icannotpretend5834
@icannotpretend5834 4 жыл бұрын
@@pepperwestwood Lol. This is true
@aliciakiedrowski8234
@aliciakiedrowski8234 3 жыл бұрын
Coming back 6 months later to tell you this video changed my life! It also led me to learn about the Iroquois Theatre fire. Please do a video on this... You do excellent work and I feel like you would really do it justice. Like this video, it’s an example of how fire codes and laws came to be.
@FascinatingHorror
@FascinatingHorror 3 жыл бұрын
It's on the list - hoping to cover it later this year!
@k.c1126
@k.c1126 2 жыл бұрын
@@FascinatingHorror I saw that one that you did on the Theatre.... it was excellent. Heartbreaking, but excellent.
@lauramaue
@lauramaue 4 жыл бұрын
I feel so bad for the employee who opened the Zebra Room door. She was just doing her job and unwittingly made the fire worse. If she survived, she must've felt TONS of guilt afterward (though really it wasn't her fault, but the electric company's and management's for packing the venue). I hope she found peace in some way.
@greyeaglem
@greyeaglem 4 жыл бұрын
That's not really how it happened, according to eyewitnesses. Two waitresses went in to get some tray stands and the room was filled with smoke. They notified management and they came with fire extinguishers. As they approached, a bus boy kicked the door open and the flames blew out of the room.
@ThisCallumPerson
@ThisCallumPerson 4 жыл бұрын
They were the first to notice, probably saving hundreds of lives
@Sashazur
@Sashazur 4 жыл бұрын
If nobody had noticed the fire when it was only in that room, it would have spread even more before people were warned. Overall finding it sooner probably made little difference, or it may have even helped.
@cantdecide6598
@cantdecide6598 4 жыл бұрын
If no one had opened that room and noticed the fire, it would probably had kept spreading until reaching the rooftop and a lot more people would have died. That was what happened in Ycua Bolaños, another fire very similar to this one that killed four hundred in Paraguay in 2004. The one thing that waittres could have done differently was closing the doors inmmediatly but she couldnt have know.
@JubeProductions
@JubeProductions 3 жыл бұрын
It was inevitable that the fire was going to happen. The people that should have guilt are the owners of the building and the people that decided not to have sprinklers, smoke alarms and clear fire escapes. I think she was the one that found the fire and alerted people so hopefully she thought about it that way.
@VorpalStorm
@VorpalStorm 3 жыл бұрын
Your voice, accent and cadence are perfect for this kind of storytelling. When explaining the features and amenities of the club, you make them sound lovely, decadent and pleasant. However, with the same tones, you give the horror - like the body crush - the respect it deserves. Thank you for making this fantastic series of videos.
@wanderinghistorian
@wanderinghistorian 4 жыл бұрын
Walter: "There is a fire, everyone evacuate!" Patrons: "I think I'll at least stay for desert."
@vincegay986
@vincegay986 4 жыл бұрын
I worked in disaster response and recovery for years. For many people, it ain’t real ‘til it’s real. For others, the mere mention of preparedness sets off panic.
@wayneolsen8965
@wayneolsen8965 4 жыл бұрын
Fake news!
@Lemon_squee
@Lemon_squee 4 жыл бұрын
At first I thought they were kind of dumb, but *4 minutes*. Someone could have still been gathering their things at that point. There could have been people who were waiting for people to clear out before they did. It wasn't much time at all.
@vincegay986
@vincegay986 4 жыл бұрын
Ritoo True. People overestimate how long it takes fire to spread. They probably thought the call to evacuate was strictly out of abundance of caution. I once got people to evacuate four apartments in two buildings in the middle of the night by just yelling, “Fire! Out! NOW!” over and over. The fire took up about 3 feet by 3 feet by 3 feet when I first saw it. Thirty seconds later, both houses had one entire three-story wall each that was covered in fire.
@bugdrvr
@bugdrvr 4 жыл бұрын
@@vincegay986 I've had family die in a house fire and it's stuck with me for life. I always look for exits and plan ahead whenever I'm in a crowded place. If someone says fire, I'm out of there before they have to say it twice.
@TwinOpinion
@TwinOpinion 3 жыл бұрын
I had to evacuate a store once because of a gas leak. I left immediately, no questions asked, and left my cart where it was. You would not believe how many people I passed along the way that were fighting the staff! "Can't I just buy a few things? What do you mean you can't ring me up? I can't leave all this here!" You don't want to be around most people in a disaster. They are complete morons and will get you killed. When you are told to leave, just stay calm and leave!
@sithlordhibiscus9936
@sithlordhibiscus9936 2 жыл бұрын
NATURAL SELECTION lol "okay, you want to shop? Fine. I'm going to leave with my life. Let's hope your things are worth your life. I'm leaving, but you can stay and risk it."
@jennyterrell6354
@jennyterrell6354 Жыл бұрын
Try being the employee having to deal with those people. This happened at my job twice in 10 yrs (gas leak,lp) each time we had 2 or 3 complain loudly, basically yelling and cursing at us. The second time firemen came in to see why people weren’t out yet to handle it. Sometimes customers sat in the parking lot for more than an hour hoping we would open up. Just ridiculous not to mention possibly putting others in danger because of this.
@undeadknight01
@undeadknight01 4 жыл бұрын
This building broke every code in the book, and it's patrons did literally everything wrong lol.
@billolsen4360
@billolsen4360 3 жыл бұрын
You have to plan on patrons doing everything wrong. In an environment like that, expect about 50% to be too drunk to think straight about evacuating.
@georgemcconville7663
@georgemcconville7663 3 жыл бұрын
LOL?
@Gail1Marie
@Gail1Marie 2 жыл бұрын
The building was in Southgate, KY, not a major city like Cincinnati. If a structure is built in a rural area, there's often less oversight of the building permit process that would catch potential safety problems. It's not that city inspectors are better than county inspectors, but they have less territory to cover and aren't spread as thin. In my area, there's a big difference between the city and county permitting process; the city is more strict.
@AnAppleWithEyes
@AnAppleWithEyes 3 жыл бұрын
One of my high school teachers lost his mother and brother in the fire. This fire devastated the Northern Kentucky/Cincinnati community, and you covered it very well and respectfully as always. Keep up the good work mate. Thank you for bringing these tragedies to light the way you do. If we forget our past, we’re doomed to repeat it
@jadawngriffis3745
@jadawngriffis3745 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine the lights going out and then you just smell smoke thats scary af
@christadawnwheeler2696
@christadawnwheeler2696 4 жыл бұрын
I've been in a burning building....my home. I know that fear. It never leaves you. Ever.
@FiddlebirdBlue
@FiddlebirdBlue 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you (both?) survived! Not to intrude, but I've found a lot of my traumas become more manageable if I find appropriate opportunities to tell people what happened/should've happened/would've been better, etc. Raising the awareness makes me feel like I've helped, which makes me feel less powerless. Less like something that 'happened to me' and more like something 'I learned from, and I now use that knowledge to help others'. Again, I don't know you or what you do or don't do, just hope the two cents might help. :)
@deleqtronica8733
@deleqtronica8733 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Christa, about 10 years ago my home burned down completely, with me and my family inside at the time. Thankfully everyone made it out safely but we lost everything. You’re right, the fear never leaves you, but it also etches in a ton of respect for it.
@charlieangkor8649
@charlieangkor8649 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe people have a fear of burning buildings because... burning buildings are dangerous? Just guessing...
@charlieangkor8649
@charlieangkor8649 3 жыл бұрын
Fear of burning buildings makes you leave burning buildings and go away from flames. Saves your life and health. Psychologically healthy and useful.
@iwwyl847
@iwwyl847 4 жыл бұрын
This situation of people piling and getting stuck on top of eachother in the doorways sounds awfully similar to the Station Fire / Great White in Rhode Island, 2003... The video of that one still haunts me even after more than a year veiwing it...
@mook_butt8037
@mook_butt8037 4 жыл бұрын
Precisely what I thought of while he was describing it
@paogene1288
@paogene1288 4 жыл бұрын
Try the Peon phen, Cambodia human crush during the monsoon festival on 2010, you will learn hell for what you would see. Edit: Phnom Phen
@janeeyre1990
@janeeyre1990 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't understand the mechanics of how human stampedes and tramplings worked until I went to a fairly wild outdoor concert and got knocked to the ground a few times. Your immediate impulse is to grab at the people standing around you to pull yourself up, but that just ends up pulling them down too--at least in my case as a tall, heavy person. I had to go limp and just wait for other people to pick me up. There were people beneath me screaming, but no one was seriously injured that I know of. Still scary and sobering stuff, though. I can imagine how much worse it would be with everyone panicking and fighting for their own lives.
@5roundsrapid263
@5roundsrapid263 4 жыл бұрын
My first thought, also. I’ve seen the video and even the aftermath photos. Just horrific.
@voiceofreason1208
@voiceofreason1208 4 жыл бұрын
I traveled by the site after the fire but before the clean up. It's hard to believe the small pile of burnt debris was once an entire building.
@elaknessery
@elaknessery Жыл бұрын
Considering how many people were in the room and how few actually evacuated when Walter Bailey announced the fire, it's a miracle that it was *just* 165 dead
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