The BfA Blood DK - [TDP]

[@Finicky9]

A little bead of sweat trickled down his face as he saw the video pop up in his notifications, the pace of his pulse increased. Its dk time baby

[@ChrisTehKiller169]

Preach Gaming you cant read preach, hemostasis affects death STRIKE not dnd, its just Scent of Blood again. Sounds to me like hemostasis is by far the best option.

[@tehsilec]

Yeah, it is basically the old legendary shoulder effect but even better because you get a stack for each enemy hit not for each Blood Boil use.

[@Benny_Boyo]

I love Preach but reading is definitely not one of his strong suits.

[@Omugaru]

So its the old effect of scent of blood before it got removed and turned into a legendary.

[@MegaCocacolafan]

Kinda unrelated but the number of times I've seen him purposefully ignore the story then act incredulous because he doesn't know what's going on.

[@cryptikandji]

"You're so starved keeping up bone shield" *marrowrends at 10 stacks of bone shield*

[@azzurrin889]

It’s pretty telling that almost every spec you’ve played it’s disappointing. I know it’s still beta, but the Azerite gear we’ve seen doesn’t make specs seem more fun or mechanically better. I didn’t think blizzard could make specs even less fun or simple than they were in Legion, but I guess it’s looking that way.

[@Crowback354]

Even if there is some hidden azerite gear that makes the game fun the leveling experience gameplay wise will still be shit.

[@lukos4748]

agreed 100%

[@themaconeau]

Oh, you mean Netherlight Crucible? That was sooooooooooo fun *rolls eyes**gnash teeth*

[@herogamer555]

Them fucking up class design once again in BfA is great. It means I can save $15 a month instead of playing the game.

[@CharterForGaming]

Tbh a lot of specs are boring without the artifact. The core specs have been bad for a long time. Balance druids are tremendously boring without the artifact. The azerite gear can safe a spec. I still don't have a full idea of every azerite piece that is being dropped. Just that it seems to give better options the harder content you do. We will have see. There still hasn't been enough time to give a definitive conclusion. Let's hope blizzard takes the pleas from the community.

[@Sharkofspace]

"We made all tanks the same so one wouldn't be played more than the others." NAILED it Blizz :]

[@aston9279]

23:29 - apologies, however it refers to Death Strike, not Death and Decay, which is miles different. It might be worth clarifying in future videos since Haemostasis is actually stronger than Rapid Decomposition in most AoE non-trash situations.

[@Foosyari]

A lot of the slowness of some of these specs is because they are now geared with the end game of BFA in mind, we don’t have that level of stats yet, so I believe once we get there and can hit those stat breakpoints the specs will smooth out and things will be ok.

[@Psychodorf]

"Blood DK sucks!!!!"-...........And he solo a boss to then have a tiny bit of help from a healer, Remember to submit the bugs.

[@Acq49]

class design feels lazy in bfa compared to legion

[@Dunkingsonn]

Because they barely designed any classes at all. Prot paladin is pretty much the same, Ret paladin gets some glorified old abilities in the form of changes (even though they're good changes) and Holy is also fairly similar to Legion. Don't get how they think people enjoy playing the same class design for over 4 years.

[@Acq49]

Usually they remove and add things and generally improve stuff, for bfa, theyve basically just removed things and replaced talents with artifact traits or leggo effects

[@SubstantialSubstance]

Revert all specs back to MoP.

[@CharterForGaming]

They want to have a core set of abilities.The problem is that some are boring. The legion core specs are dull. The leveling experience is terrible. Only after getting the artifact it starts feeling better and better the more traits you unlock. This is where the problem is imo. The core should be the main reason to play the spec. You should see the artifact and azerite gear as something extra. Sadly because the core is bad. The only fun can be gained from the artifact and azerite gear. The Artifact worked. The azerite is showing signs of doubt. Altough we haven't seen it's full potential yet. It's tricky to give good critism. Which is a bad thing for the players and Blizzard.

[@mikehunt4607]

yeah the game sucks now i cant wait for classic

[@LesbianWitchAcademia]

It seems like, that for the majority of BfA specs, Blizz's thought process has been "This was good in Legion, let's make it bad in BfA so people choose other things" without looking at *why* these things were better. They're just making most classes worse it seems.

[@CharterForGaming]

Austin Brown I wonder if that is the case. Imo, The problem lies with the artifacts. The classes that feel worse to you in Bfa most likely were fun in legion due to the artifacts. The core of most of the specs (what you use pre 98) is the same. The passive traits have a major impact on gameplay and how it feels to play a spec. Leveling a druid was tedious. I played balance to powerlevel myself. But it was boring due to a 3 spells rotation and two dots to keep up. The artifact changed it slightly but made it fun to play and less tedious.

[@quazichrome]

I like your ui preach. What setup do you use

[@JonHaugaard]

@Preach Gaming: IIRC, You said you kind of "liked" DH because you found that to be the least affected by the GCD change. DH also seems a bit "slow paced" (at least in comparison to most classes I played on live) and it is pretty popular. It isn't overly complicated, the effects looks kind of cool and does well in a number of different situations. People being unable to keep up with the pace, and Blizzard claiming it will be better for the long run are the two primarily mentioned reasons for the GCD change. Those aside, are there any chance that Blizzard looked at the popularity and succes of the DH and decided that this was the aiming point for future class design? As a follow up: Are there no classes which has not been subject to the GCD change or to which it has no or a relatively small effect?

[@salvogreco]

Lovely video. Love your UI, are you sharing it?

[@Dagraine]

Besides having slow gameplay, how does the mobility feel? A lot of the mechanics I have seen so far are movement heavy for tanks, be it for Raids or dungeons. Movement feels really important for tanks in BFA.

[@Ibupr0fanity]

Hey Preach Great video, as always! I wasn't sure where to comment about your feedback on people saying 'But you wanted more silly and interesting game mechanics', so I'm posting here. I was one of the people who brought it up on your previous video. I think or I hope at least we all understand context. So let me put my comment into context for you. It was meant as a 'Come on preach don't be overly critical of what they're trying to do here, mechanics wise'. I wasn't even thinking about monkeys throwing bananas or the dungeon need to be more serious. I honestly care less about those things and more about the mechanics that I have to deal with in the dungeons. I guess the differentiation between mechanics VS dungeons context was lost for me in the video and I jumped the gun thinking you were overly critical off the new mechanics they were trying with a boss, when previously you said you welcomed if they did that. So yeah, I hope that this comment here will give more context. Keep up the good work!

[@Seranuelian]

Well, you gotta mention how much haste you have. In the beginning of Legion it was the same issue with Boneshields - to a point where I had to weight out if it was even worth building them in the beginning of a fight - and then just build them towards the end for the next pull

[@occ9340]

is that TellMeWhen or Weak Auras that you are using? I have not been able to get TellMeWhen or ElvUi to work in Beta.

[@typoko]

3 months later but few weeks in to BFA. Blood DK feels fine in live for mythic. The resource generation isn't such a big problem when you pop rune sword at the start of the fight to boost up the bone stacks with two rends. It's also extremely common to be able to stack the bones up before the boss from the trash. With Ossuary and a lot of Heart Strikes i seem to have a button to press pretty much every GCD if i want to. I don't think any of the talents shown at the end are best picks for their tier. :P

[@alyishiking]

Can you do a vid on Frost? Or are the changes too insignificant?

[@DeviousWolf4]

Does the lack of secondary stats along with the GCD stuff make Frost and Unholy feel weird aswell in terms of speed and resource management?

[@myauthoritah1]

A warlock using a voidwalker in dungeons gets into the beta, eh? Alrighty then.

[@mrsinbad6048]

i know your pain, still waiting on my beta invite and i pay for this game with cash and raid at a mythic level.

[@samuelphillian1286]

Eric Cartman all you have to do is unsub on live, I got my beta invite in like 15 min after that

[@IVeNoMII]

@soma:Getting into beta is not based on how good you are at the game Well I mean it kind of is. If you kill the last boss on Mythic before a certain date you just get auto invited. That's how its worked for the past two expansions.

[@Zluul]

They have to test all stages of skill levels, so they invite people in the range from mythic realm first people to people still stuck at lvl 14 in Westfall.

[@matthewhinds-3psch281]

Who is stuck at level 14 in Westfall?

[@whiskeylima4439]

I said it in the last video; a dungeon where the city you're infiltrating is burning to the ground around you is no place for a whoopee cushion.

[@extraversi0n]

the editing at the end was superb.

[@silviszon]

What is the weak aura for the dk bar preach has? Is it only available for his UI package?

[@jamescrowther8745]

'I don't wanna get preachy' - Preach

[@deadlyair]

“MASS DISPELL? woah, this guy fucks” 😂

[@adamhaughton561]

Why are you tracking your runes on 3 different parts of your UI?

[@xzhou]

What's ur hps throughout the whole dungeon? I'm wonder if bdk hps still the same or nerfed.

[@copeman111]

Could i get a link to your weakauras for blood DK they looks so good

[@GeoDeathDeathGeo]

Anyone know what dk addon he was using that was showing runes runic power bone stacks and abilities, it looks like he combined different addons together but still looks like it would be good to use if it was a single addon.

[@FrozenSilver]

The middle of the screen is Weak Aura but I don't know what import he's using of it. Probably from Wago.

[@GeoDeathDeathGeo]

o ok cool i havnt used weak auras b4 cuz it seemed realy difficult to setup and i though its was like custom wow auras like what shows up with procs, but if it could do that kind of stuff i should check it out. Ty for the help with identifying the addon for me.

[@Vodwuar]

I know this video is old but I'm considering leveling a blood dk and I was wondering what Addon show ur runes, runic power, boneshield and blood shield in the center of your screen.

[@gehennafam8426]

You know what would fix the awkward talents? Adding one or two new talent rows... 110 could be legion abilities from artifact weapons and 120 could be brand new talents.

[@eaalders628]

How do you have all these addons? I get constant lua errors when I try using them.

[@DLMyth2]

What is that mod you have when you kill the boss you get the box with the 3D model of it?

[@melvoid01]

Its not a mod it is what happens in Beta, happens in the open world. questing bosses and rare npcs too. If you look you see 2 tick boxes at the bottom to give feedback as to whether the boss was bugged or not.

[@DLMyth2]

melvoid01 cool thanks. I see the same thing at times in his vid that’s not beta related. So was curious.

[@jamesbramley2347]

All I would say preach as a bdk whos killed KJ and Argus mythic is that the counter argument I'd make to red thirst and purg being on the same row is they are both very useful in different situations. From ABT take Vari vs Aggramar, I know which one I'd rather have there for sure (even without the healing debuff). I think Red Thirst for consistent high damage and Purg for big spikes that can take you unawares, like the argus scythes as you said. I can kinda see that that row is like Big Damage Spikes | Consistent Damage | AoE Damage/dungeons. The problem I have with it is that there is no viable option for when you don't care about your damage taken anymore, even on live I don't wanna press bonestorm on ST, despite the fact you're swimming in RP, let alone with the shit show that the resources on the current beta DK are

[@cantfindaname123421]

8:55 "Look there's nothing to do. if I was in trouble right now I'd be screwed" he says as he has almost full runes and runic power? I don't know, I've tried blood myself on beta, and considering this is early levels with bad gear, I don't think it seems nearly as bad as everyone makes it out to be.

[@cantfindaname123421]

Did you not read the comment you replied to or something? I have the beta myself, and the problems with blood are largely exaggerated. It's completely fine and feels just like legion, with fewer artifact passives, obviously. The rune recharge change is really dumb though (only 4 recharge at a time instead of all 6), and I certainly wouldn't complain if they sped up the spec, but it's not as bad as it's made out to be by some people. If you watch this video you'll also see how little downtime he has, and that's again with crap 110 greens/blues + no azerite gear.

[@Umpapamowmow]

He was literally soloing the last boss and had CDs to spare before the healer even rezzed up. Yeah, Blood DKs seem like they're going to be just fine, and people are making mountains out of mole hills.

[@cantfindaname123421]

Dude you honestly sound like you haven't tried the new blood yourself yet and is going from what complainers on the forums are saying. You say there's a point in this video where preach has to wait 5-7 seconds for something to click? I dare you to find a single point in this video with more than a 2 second downtime lol. But please don't worry, as soon as you try it yourself, you will realize it's not as bad as the forums make it out to be.

[@semi6544]

This video was just an opportunity to talk about the issues with Blood DKs. He said in the video he would have no issues in a dungeon. The problems show during raid testing. He was never in any danger in the dungeon. Raids create opportunities where it would be dangerous to only have 2 runes available because you would need to anticipate major incoming damage. Dungeons can't illustrate the issues facing Blood DKs. For those not raiding with Blood DKs it was probably hard to see anything wrong with the class in the video because there was never a circumstance where he faced any real danger.

[@Umpapamowmow]

@Symply OP There is ONE point in the ENTIRE video where he has 4 secs of downtime and that's on the boss where he has double BB to use while he waits and just doesn't do it. Not to mention he also takes just a TERRIBLE talent selection in Rune Strike and not Blooddrinker (which he says himself is just "too good"), and he takes Rapid Decomposition over Hemostasis, that he cannot even read correctly. Main DK on live and I can say if you have a high amount of downtime, repeatedly, then you're not itemizing for enough haste and you're spamming the wrong abilities. @Semi The anticipation for high incoming damage with just 2 runes means he's in a VERY specific situation where his IBF, VB, and Purgatory are ALL down, and a Marrowrend to build up RP and BS stacks isnt enough. If that's the case, you can easily communicate that he's going to need a CD from one of your 4 healers to take the next hit.

[@darkinin]

This game was at its peak popularity before Defense had even been removed. It's a shame to see Blizzard keep pushing in this direction.

[@Antisceptic]

Game sound is distant and distorted.

[@disconsolategamer]

Sounds like maybe playing through the monitor or some speakers? Could also just be distortion like you said but it is hard to tell :)

[@Lmfaocj]

From the sounds of it. The Heroes of the Storm team came to balance wow for this expansion. FeelsBadMan

[@Kaiyuni]

I massively support the idea of making Purgatory baseline, and adjusting it somehow for PvP (not removing it outright). As it stands you will never change from that talent, making the other 2 choices as if they aren't even there.

[@funnymandown750]

Would vengeance demon hunter be a good pick for tanking raids?

[@kroffen7]

Okay, what would be nice to see is faster resource regeneration, of course. But also remove or move Blood Worms to a passive like it used to be and put Red Thirst on that tier, it fits with the theme of the tier and then give something else at the last tier! Maybe something more utility based as we got tankiness and a damage option already.

[@malletin]

Might wanna reread that Hemostasis tooltip. I am still a little salty about the removal of Blood mirror.

[@jonathanmarsh8119]

I really think that Blizz has come a long way in level and quest design. I just feel like they should move back to the bigger talent trees for each spec so that we have a bit of choice. Also spend a lot more time in making sure that there isn't a "perfect" spec. Most of the talent choices we have now are pretty useless, and there is only one option to really chose from.

[@blech71]

Just started my BDK last night after leveling prot pally to 120 with a few dungeons in BFAB. Warrior was absolute shit and had no survivability. The whole point of leveling tank spec is grabbing it all while killing slow.... but you get to grab it all. Prot Pally does it rather well bit the new BDK feels so good as a casual player in world content. As a player that’s much older now and my hardcore raiding is most likely behind me.... world content and basic dungeon use feels so good thus far as BDK for sure. I love it. I have yet to do the DH tank spec yet.... which that had a little less overall self healing but way better mobility I am definitely ok with BDK where it is mobility wise if they keep that survivability up as in the past. I love the BDK so far and excited to push it to 120 and a few mild dungeons for sure :)

[@CornbreadPops]

What part of the game is too fast? Doing your rotation?

[@Krakenzprekambru]

Got a question. Can Blood DK dual wield in BfA? Doesn't matter if it's strong or not. Just for... tmog purposes

[@Rizerr96]

I have to say, I'm not really a big fan of Blizzard slowing down and simplifying class specs for the less game-savy players of WoW. I believe anyone who buys the game deserves to experience everything it has to offer- but lowering the skill cieling and rewarding the skill floor is not the way to achieve this. I by no means intend to sound 'elitist' - but I'm a little disappointed at how simple a lot of classes have become because of this. With systems like Titanforging and RNG passives, sub-par performance is being rewarded with higher yield. Any incentive to improve and learn diminishes over time, and so gameplay standards drop, and mechanics get simpler to compensate. I know Mythic raiders make up only a small fraction of the WoW playerbase, but if the goal of the Blizzard dev team is to get more players invested in high-end content, shortenning the gap between good and bad play through simplification and easier rewards is not the way to go. The need to improve is integral to any videogame. It's what gives repetitive games like League of Legends and Overwatch such sustainability, but right now I think we're losing out on this in the World of Warcraft. Blizzard is trying to achieve the best of both worlds. Get casual players into the tougher stuff while still giving seasoned players a challenge, but with what I've said above, we're getting into territory where we will lose something on one side if we give to the other.

[@tomashruby9349]

What I found rly showing was how the feral changes made it so you didnt have to wait for energy anymore and just use every single gcd and what did feral community have to say about it "I dont like I have to do action every gcd to not loose dmg it feels spammy".

[@Roxyrouge96]

That's because feral druids are supposed to be slow, the point of the game play is to energy pool. They've been energy pooling since vanilla which is a slower game play, of course it is going to feel spammy and it does. Another huge part of feral game play is maintaining dots, buffs, and resources - you have to have time to make decisions, which if you have to hit a button every GCD to not lose damage you've already taken away most of what makes a feral druid unique. You've also taken a niche player base, and their specific game play, and taken it completely out of context to suit your needs of this conversation. I agree completely with Arri, the sky is not falling but I simply don't want to be able to achieve the same results as someone who plays this game 30+ hours a week does, and if it does happen and I can waltz into mythic raiding with no issues I will be very disappointed.

[@QuietDuplicity]

While I do agree with what you said about the incentive to improve, the example you gave were of completely different genre's. WoW is an MMORPG, emphasis on the RPG, neither of your examples are RPG's. RPG combat was never really focused on twitch reactions and fast paced gameplay, it was about application of knowledge and tactical decision making. Improving in an RPG is more about developing game and systems knowledge and learning to properly leverage said knowledge to make better decisions, it's not so much about developing better muscle memory to activate multiple skills simultaneously to shave a few milliseconds off your rotation. Wow has really moved towards the latter in recent expansions. Blizzard have openly said they want to move a away from the fast paced GCD spamming combat of recent WoW and return to the more tactical combat of WoW's early years. Early wow combat systems, vanilla through wotlk and even into cata had a lot more depth than people like to give it credit for, and those who properly exploited those system back then will know what I'm talking about. I personally am looking forward to a more tactical game and am curious how they'll try to implement it. Like it or no the class, mechanics and GCD changes in BFA are all generally in line with the return to a tactical combat design. Take the Blood DK for instance, sure it might be a bit of a bad situation at the moment but I can see the design philosophy here as a return to early DK tanking. Tanking where if you spammed your Death Strike simply because you weren't at full health you screwed yourself over. Early Blood DK's played right excelled at dealing with spike damage thanks to the way Death Strike works, a side effect of this was that you had rely on your healer more during periods of lower sustained damage and it also made the DK *VERY* reactionary and to many sitting on runes/RP waiting for those mini-spikes in damage is boring gameplay. I personally love and am tempted to return to my DK seeing these changes. Among those criticizing the Blood DK in BFA I'd like to know how many of them are still trying to play like they did in Legion with near unlimited resources, pressing core rotation buttons simply because they have the resources. Even Preach here was Death Striking and Marrowrending when he absolutely didn't need to be, then he complains that he's resource starved. Blood DK's with their massive health pools remind me of early warlocks, if you are at full health you're playing it wrong.

[@QuietDuplicity]

Why are you Marrowmending with 8+ Bone Shield charges and 20+ seconds left on those charges?

[@rizzen7]

How long after BFA releases for the "Blood is back, baby!" video?

[@pandorawolf8239]

But if the secondaire stats are so hard nerfed, how are classes going to be then? specially shaman since they need a certain haste cap?

[@Whit3_Tig3R]

DK Tank here, about to watch you better mention evrything... EVERYTHING, or inb4 post in MMOChamp :D

[@yelraw]

i‘d love to have these weakauras on my DK! the one for boneshield is sick! any chance to get them somewhere?

[@MorganvanDyk]

What weakauars are you using right now i noticed in all your BFA videos your using WA instead of tell me when mind listing them?

[@taleteller7838]

Blood for the blood gods!

[@CharterForGaming]

Taleteller Hakkar will rise again!

[@leejuicy]

Hey buddy, I think you've got the wrong door, the leather club's two blocks down.

[@Jaigarful]

Side note: Blizzard has a really hard time telegraphing wahts going on to players. I didn't know that maddening gaze was a front cone until i died from it. Theres no good way to pull info from trash mobs in game.

[@ninjaman0003]

so preach, if you see this i hope you answer. do you think the game would be better if blizz just embraced class diversity? such as blood dks having really good anti magic defenses and something like guardian druid having really good physical defenses with something like pally being a kind of middle ground.

[@Kikaboy17547]

can someone link me that weakaura he's using? the one in the middle showing his abilities and the cds etc.

[@DIRT4649]

The talents are being shuffled in the next build.

[@johnmetzakis2910]

I kind of agree with the overall point of Resource being an issue and it really is for all 3 dk specs when a simple reduction of the rune regeneration of 10seconds (before haste) down to 8 seconds (before haste), as I noticed this in Alpha and in Beta I specifically targeted haste gear and stacked haste even forgoing tank trinkets for haste proc stat sticks. even race changing to Troll when Beserking was buffed to give 20% haste. I'm only then able to push my rune regen to 7 sec from 10 and the class started to feel more fluid, keep 7+ boneshield stacks and have sufficient RP generation etc. but no where near to what a Veng DH can do fresh out of the box. for fun go to Nazmir where the bat Loa quest stuff is ther is a potion on ground giving a 50% buff to haste it pushed me to 98% haste when I found one and boy was the class fun to play while it lasted but you will see the difference better rune regen will improve things The other thing of note Preach was if you had seen a lot of the intended azurite bonuses are just adding back to most of the talents converting them back to what they are in legion which I feel is lazy design IMHO, in its current state come live ill either race change to a Troll or re-roll a demon hunter.

[@Discotheque32]

Preach hemostasis increases damage and healing from Death Strike not Death and Decay. It's the legendary shoulders baked into a talent, and shoulders were BiS for ST tanking from both DPS and survival standpoint.

[@XxxTheManXxx1000]

The hemostasis talent is basically the legendary shoulders. Increasing damage and healing done of your next DEATH STRIKE not your DnD :P You got something wrong there preach :)

[@KakaowyKruk]

23:24 wtf are you saying -_- . It increase death strike damage and healing not D&D

[@disconsolategamer]

Hey, I use that WA for my DK! Pretty awesome stuff! Loving the coverage Preach!

[@ragbrogamingirl4895]

Preach when are you making a new ui video? I want ur addons and setup

[@ziggyzaggy8840]

Isn't Homeostasis the best? I mean, since blood boil is in ur rotation, extra heals from DS sounds better than extra damage.

[@Aurelya2000]

The more I look at what they do with Blood DK which is my current main, the more I want to reroll to Brewmaster or Vengeance in BfA...

[@frettystories]

Preach, think about this... The GCD for DK's was increased to 1.5 seconds for Legion, right? Add on top of that the slow game play for DK's on the Beta currently... Just think about how much they've slowed down DK's overall... And Blizzard says they aren't trying to slow down game play? Yeah fuckin right!

[@justfallen3040]

is anyone else concerned that wraith walk is now a talent

[@Turskaify]

Wait a second, Preach just completely missed what Hemostasis does

[@nimbuscloud3789]

around 10:30 you see how beautiful that dungeon is

[@Gebirges]

Did the Windows Update fuckle with your sound? :I

[@madaggar9765]

"a percentage" good job Blizzard.

[@Nothox1]

Just bring back MoP BDK pls

[@jamessalvatore7054]

and prot war

[@cairnebloodfist3347]

and literally every other spec

[@wutever8167]

Just bring MoP classes back in general.

[@senfglas214]

Why? In legion they have way more depth

[@bartvercauteren5969]

vengeance though. more damage? more healing. INVINCIBILITY!

[@grimmreaper9005]

that warlock slightly pissed me off... using the voidwalker, pulling, and dieing to the boss

[@will-tani]

I almost wish you gained Bone charges through damage dealt *and* taken (gore, any gore, doesn't matter whose), and then those charges were usable on a variety of functions merely including bonus mitigation. Kill some enemies -- more bones. Get very nearly wrecked -- more bones. Wreck something -- more bones.

[@Hristo1991]

Hey Preach, if you look on the screen over the boss bug report prompt @19:45 you can see that the game tells you how much Azeroth power you need to collect to the next level of you necklace. You said you couldn’t figure this out a week or two ago. Probably changed recently in the beta. Happy hunting!

[@Apoxiosis]

what, you mean to tell me you dont like the secondary stat squish? youre not excited to go into the final raid tier of bfa and only have 3.7% haste?

[@Nicolas-fo8qd]

This is the weakness of the new talent system introduced in MoP.. It gives blizz an excuse to leave most of the class design in the talent tree, and the other half baseline. The problem with that is that you lose a bunch of good class design by only being able to pick 1 of 3 talents. If they brought back the old talent system, which gives you a sense of progression in leveling, they could put the major class talents like summon gargoyle and dancing rune weapon in there, and then the rest of the fluff in the newer talent system could be baked into the class baseline. I really think that basing so much of the class design on talents and azerite armor leaves every class feeling lacking.

[@MegaFlubbs]

"3 2 1 and stop" *claps* video keeps rolling :P :P :P

[@efes88]

@23:34 Its not dnd, its for Death strike, lego shoulders made into a talent

[@KosmataBradva]

I remember having around 26% haste in EN if i'm not mistaking. After i geared from Antorus, i currently have 60%. I made a dk on another server and in 900 gear i was thinking "Whoah, this plays like african kids using a turd for a football". You might wanna be careful, with such short term memory they might sell you a previous expansions and you won't even remember you have played them.

[@Nyarlarthotep9]

I would like to say, I'm dropping a comment before I even watch the video. Because when my notification popped up, and I saw the title, I said aloud to myself. "Mother of god, I thought for sure he wouldn't do this video. Cats out of the bag now boys."

[@FlesHBoX]

Oh god... I thought bone shield was rough to keep up because my gear was crap :( Haven't been able to level all the way to 120 yet because of the DC issues this week. Here's hoping that they can do something about it, because I've really grown to love my bdk even since I got roped into tanking an alt tomb run a few months back... Now I'm tanking with a dedicated m+ group and running 18s and pushing to get at least 1 20 in before the end of the xpac... I really don't want to end up in a place where I dislike tanking again.

[@icksterbooth]

Have you posted a drop box of your UI for beta anywhere by chance?

[@even1313]

Aren't these videos a little premature? They've supposedly not done any numbers tuning just yet.

[@Truepk]

so what you're saying is they didn't buff talents that gave rune regeneration to make up for the lack of artifact weapon...... good job blizzard.

[@redictor]

so aside from the lack of haste and artifact skills it's generally the same as in legion? guess i'll stay frost then

[@killval849]

This is a shame, the first class in a long time, that I've found I loved in every way shape and form inside and out was the Death Knight as a whole in legion. I mainly did play Blood/Unholy, but the whole package is incredible, if they fuck this up, I'm going to be really sad, and either play a Paladin, or just wait for WoW Classic.

[@sonicspeedx13]

Killval blood dks have been way too easy mode for awhile now. I think this is good

[@jger8102]

Iv noticed he says “shape and form” a lot:p it’s rubbing off on you guys 😂😂

[@killval849]

I prefer when they can do incredible things, over clunkiness. Do you mythic raid? There's plenty of preparing and challenge as a blood dk in mythic antorus.

[@selimcelik3494]

I'm pretty sure Unholy is gonna be pretty ok in BFA. Also they're probably gonna fix Blood cause it seems easy to fix mostly for me.

[@killval849]

LOL ikr Jæger, I watch too much preach. and yeah dude, I just really hope the DK can stay great, because they got sooooo much shit right with it in legion.

[@deathbower]

On the note of specs being too fast paced to keep up with, I'm switching away from the DH to rogue next expansion because the spec is too fast. I can keep track of everything but just playing the spec is destroying my button mashing hand. On the other hand (no pun intended), a DH wouldn't feel like a DH if they slowed it right the hell down so idk what the best course of action Blizz have here.

[@TheTorridestCheese]

I don't know about you guys, but when I'm in a raid environment how my spec plays is the least of my concerns. I feel like that's how it should be. Less complicated specs, more complicated encounters (both in the world and instances). Perhaps this is what Blizzard is aiming for.

[@kieranbarnes2473]

Max Goof I'm pretty sure they've said as much. I don't mind a prune, as long as the class feels smooth to play and has rewarding moments of glory

[@ThorDog81]

is arms just trash or is it just that warrior?

[@Raderion77]

Whats up with the game audio?

[@pandasempai6459]

I'm still wondering why Purgatory hasn't been made baseline since it is always a safe reliable pick

[@CoopMoe]

Nerfing talents to make others more attractive is like cutting off the legs of a chair to balance it. If you keep doing that eventually you're just sitting on the floor. Shore up the crap talents to make them even with the other ones that were actually attractive to begin with. Choosing between a polished turd, a soft serve turd, and a standard turd is still just choosing between turds.

[@Rendark]

BfA looks like it will be the first expansion i don't buy. Sad to see but it just looks so bad.

[@ArgentumEmperio]

Here's the thing... as someone who also plays on the beta, Preacher is ignoring tons and tons of stuff in order to make his videos. Yes his views may be correct... but only if you ignore the fact that he made a video titled "I got GCD'd?" when he in fact didn't! Yes there's some concerns regarding the classes, but the concerns are coming from mythic raiders who are at a level where they are competing for world firsts or at least are able to do so. The game is wonderful in the beta for anyone that doesn't subscribe to the idiocy that preacher and many others are spewing out! Ask folks who are actually playing the Beta and you'll see most folks say "It's fine" when everyone else is decrying it from high heavens. I recommend buying it just on the basis of the beta and ignoring Preacher's thoughts on it unless you are friends with him and talking about the seven world firsts you got.

[@Rendark]

If you think I'm basing my opinion on BfA just from what Preach has said, you are wrong. I have looked at a lot of beta info and it just doesn't look good. I didn't like Legion and BfA looks like it's going to be much of the same shit. If you think it's good that great but i wont be wasting my money on it.

[@DisappointedBuddha]

New bloodworms talent is pretty much a passive

[@HavocHounds1988]

That fail Warlock using a Voidwalker in a dungeon.

[@themaconeau]

Hmmm... Looks like I'll be prepping a pally, a DH and a DK for the next expac. >.< Still miss the days of Frost mages tanking :P

[@rakonc9555]

I absolutely love how Blizzard seems to be trolling the ever-living shit out of everyone who has the crippling compulsion to minmax.