Well done. I love the 7x57 and classic cartridges as well. One could hunt the world with a 6.5x55 Swede, 7x57 and a 9.3x62.
@davidwhite58587 жыл бұрын
This guy really knows what he’s talking about. One of the best I have heard on cartridges.
@juliusjames55774 жыл бұрын
I’d have to agree!
@MrRufusjax4 жыл бұрын
I agree completely.
@michaelcarter86204 жыл бұрын
It’s pronounced cahhtridge
@drewgates11674 жыл бұрын
@@michaelcarter8620 caaar-pourt. Lol
@BUTCHER3082 жыл бұрын
@@michaelcarter8620 This wins the internet for today.
@djstl1004 жыл бұрын
Still have my dad's Spanish Mauser 7.57 ..he really studied his stuff back then "1970s". Bought a full military Mauser and sporterize it. Then he started hand loading it, he decided 152 grain bullet was most accurate.. experimented with boat tail, different primers, & powders..I sat and watched him mess with all of it at his table... watching the care and delicate moves he made ,I could see the love he had for his hobby.
@matthysjuys68847 жыл бұрын
Ahh the 7X57 ---- it is a very loved and dear cartridge in the history of the Boers. When Britain took the Boers on they became seriously alarmed at the Boer's and there Mauser's chambered in 7X57 and the British paid a terrible price for there eventual victory over a much smaller and militia that was equipped with what was then thought to be the worlds best military round. Interestingly enough it was a "fight also" between the .303 and the 7X57 - almost an early warm up session for the First World War. The 7X57 still shines very strongly in South Africa and the flat trajectory makes it an all round favorite with little meat damage.
@dardalion31996 жыл бұрын
Matthys J Uys what model of mauser did the boers use?
@rickoshea81385 жыл бұрын
@@dardalion3199 As the Boer wars took place in the late 1800 and early 1900, the Mausers would have hailed from around 1890s.
@matthysjuys68844 жыл бұрын
@Mactrip100 Thank you Mactrip. I am not sure if you have Ron Bester's book called Small Arms of the Anglo-Boer War 1899-1902. It gives a very good insight on the Boer Arms. I think Amazon have them. Quite interestingly my Grandfather was also a Boer War Veteran and somewhere in early 1970's we went hunting and one of the hunters had a 7X57. I remember it clearly because Granddad said that it was their "Caliber of choice" and I clearly remember him saying that the "other side never heard it coming" as the sound was more a crack than the Bang sound. Possibly more advanced propellant the Germans loaded with? Remember also that as the war progressed ammunition became unobtainable for the Boers and they eventually used captured .303's and ammunition from the other side and still had excellent marksmanship results, which was possibly the key ingredient as the Boers were naturally just more practiced shooters as they hunting was a very big supply of fresh meat. In the Veldt the shooting was over longer distances and even very young Boers (and some Girls) started shooting at a young age. My earliest recollection as a child was the smell of Hoppe's solvent!
@johannesvanhoek90804 жыл бұрын
Matthys J Uys Nice informative , thanks
@drstrangelove49984 жыл бұрын
You can say that again. My grandfather was in the British First Lifeguards in the second Boer war and he described how they were being shot at accurately from huge ranges and could only stand up to bury their dead at night!
@Beerablisscoloringbooks2 жыл бұрын
I have hunted numerous games with 7x57 you can't beat it it does the job at any distance amazing sweet shooter!
@SveninColorado3 жыл бұрын
I'm a new fan of GunBlue, working my way through your posts. This one in particular caught my attention. I live in Colorado and primarily hunt the high plains here and in southern Wyoming, going after both plains deer and antelope. For 35+ years, I have relied on a "S&W Model 1500" manufactured by Miroku of Japan, chambered in .270 Win. It has been a very reliable, accurate tool for harvesting plains Muleys, Whitetails and Pronghorns. Why did your post on the 7 X 57 catch my attention? Long story short: I have a life long friend who is an accomplished gunsmith with a FFL. He is also quite the wheeler-dealer, buying and selling shooting equipment and firearms. About 30 years ago, he contacted me about buying a full set up of reloading equipment. Included in the estate was a handful of long guns, including a sporterized 7mm Mauser with the original 22" stepped barrel. It was in pristine condition. I bought it along with the reloading equipment. My thought was to provide my wife with a low recoil hunting rifle. I bought some Federal 130 gr. ammo, took the 7mm to the range and found it to be quite a sweet shooter. I then set up the reloading equipment and built some 145 gr. and 160 gr. loads and took them to the range. The Mauser turned out to be a real tack driver. I shot 3 groups of 3 shots of each bullet size. They basically formed a vertical line of 3 silver dollar sized groups...Yeup! It was quite a shooter. The wife decided she really didn't want to hunt big game, therefore the little Mauser has simply sat in the back of my gun safe since. I'll turn 74 this year. The recoil from the .270 is beginning to effect my shooting accuracy. After watching your presentation, I do believe that it's time to pull out the 7mm and get comfortable shooting it, practicing at 200+ yards with 130gr loads. THANKS!
@saabab14743 жыл бұрын
@Stephen Anthony I went through Southwest Wyoming then into Utah back in 2019 I saw a herd of either Elk or something similar maybe antelope by Rock Springs what should I use for rote style hunting Thanks in advance
@SveninColorado3 жыл бұрын
@@saabab1474 Antelope are quite a bit smaller than elk; weighing in between 80 to 120 lbs. compared to elk which are easily 5 times larger. The males pronghorn have distinctive curved horns with a single "prong." with white throat patches and a large white butt patch. If you saw them around Rock Springs, the odds are high that they were Antelope. Any flat shooting cartridge with 130 grain bullet will suffice for Antelope. You will normally shoot long distances 200-400 yards. Therefore, a well made adjustable power (3X9 or stronger) scope is as important as the caliber. The following are all proven Pronghorn rounds: - .243 Win - .257 Roberts. - .270 Win. - .284 Remington - 7mm-08 - 7X57 (7mm Mauser) There's also a whole new generation of smaller bore cartridges that have come on the scene that would probably work well for Pronghorn: - 6.5 Creedmore - 6.5 PRC - 6.8 Western - 28 Nosler to name a few. I would suggest that you visit local, reputable firearm shops. Some have ranges and rental guns. Training on long gun basics is imperative for anyone just beginning. That includes learning how optics work, becoming comfortable with high powered rifle recoil and muzzle blast. Its also important to learn .the function of lever, bolt and semi-auto actions.
@kencleg77212 жыл бұрын
Ballistics match to the 7-08 but where it shines is the 150-160 bullets but yes I like the 120/130 here in Texas on these smaller deer does a great job and kills quick
@kencleg77212 жыл бұрын
As a couse deer hunter I built when stationed in El Paso a 6.5 x 06 with those antelope are tough to get under 100 unless u camo out by a water hole and wait them out I used a ol ruger m77mk 2 stainless the action is like glass smooth anyway any 06-.270 .260 or 25-06 brass will work 6.5 prc and the 6.5x284 are pretty close about 10 grains more than the Swede one hole rifle the cool part it’s a 600 meter rifle all day 95 gr horn v max for yotes or 120 eldx. For deer size and antelope and 140 Berger vld for elk very versatile I’ve even shot 160 round nose through it and does well just like the Swede that 140 out to 400 on elk is a freight train Better results than a 180 .06 very impressive
@herbertwessel24122 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, I learned a lot again. I hunt with my Mannlicher Mod 1903 chambered in 7x57. Barrel length is 18 Inches. It‘s scope is a civil version of a 4x sniper scope, 100+ years old too. I use open sights up to 70 yards on moving game and a folding peep sight in the tang up to 120 yards on broadside standing game. 20 years ago Lutz Moeller developed drive band copper bullets (KJG). I prefer 3Band Classic cartridges which are very similar. There is nearly no meat damage but a lot of power. Vo (muzzle) 3100 ft/s, Eo 2500 ftps. As you like .257 Roberts it is for me the 6,5x57R, the rimmed version because of break action and falling block action. Barrel length is 25 inches. Both are mounted with 60 years old Zeiss Diavari D 1,5 to 6x36. Vo 3200 ft/s, Eo 2000 ftps. I think I will never need a more powerful cartridge here in Germany or even in Europe especially after listening to you.
@kevinthorrington2131 Жыл бұрын
My dad bought me a new model 70 featherweight in 7x57 when I was 16. Oh what a nice gun, that was over 45 years ago. I wish I still had it.
@TYPE-zd3gm8 жыл бұрын
I found your channel accidentally while looking up .257 Weatherby mag, but found .257 Roberts. You do a fantastic job of explaining cartridges, and their history (in great detail), in a very conversational manner. Your efforts are very much appreciated.
@airbornesoldieramerica71256 жыл бұрын
Go watch his other video's, they are very good to.
@ORflycaster6 жыл бұрын
Your love of the .257 Roberts made me a devoted subscriber. This video of the marvelous 7x57 has somehow further sealed the deal. Please keep up the great work educating the couple generations behind you. These older cartridges deserve to have their stories told.
@ericholbrook17336 жыл бұрын
My father and I went on a "Plains Game" safari several years ago. I carried a .300 Win Mag and my father carried a 30-06. I shot a gemsbok, wildebeest, kudu, blesbok, impala and zebra. My father shot the same with the exception of the zebra. The outfitter that hosted us was a native South African, he had inherited the ranch/land from his father and so on. His family has been there for generations. The owner's primary rifle was a Malincher stocked 7x57 Mauser for everything. After our return home I bought a Ruger No. 1in 7x57. I put a nice scope on it and could not be more impressed with the caliber. I was massively over gunned with the.300 Win Mag for "Plains Game". All of my game was taken with 1 shot but I could have used less rifle. The 7x57 would have sufficed, maybe the people who grew up there know a little bit about what they're doing?
@bustersmith55694 жыл бұрын
@Michael Wolff it doesn't look good with what's going on there !
@virginia73708 жыл бұрын
7mm Mauser and the 375 H&H ... beyond these two there's nothing more needed!
@OliverKlozoff694208 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, my only two bolt action rifles. It's always nice to meet a fellow genius
@highplainsdrifter96317 жыл бұрын
John 358 I'd add a 22 LR and a .22-250 Rem or a .220 Swift to go alongside the others 😉
@johnunderwood51156 жыл бұрын
@@OliverKlozoff69420 Hunted around the world using those two calibers. Add in the .22 rimfire and the 12 bore,,, you have a full game battery of firearms. ( Used the 7mm on game waaaaay larger than what it was made for because the larger gun was not in my hands a few times, and there was no time to reach for it. Never failed. RISE RHODESIA !
@charlieandhudsonspal13125 жыл бұрын
Almost but everyone needs a .22lr
@anthonykaiser9744 жыл бұрын
Could one reasonably get away with no 22LR with a 6.5x55 SE with maybe a 107 gr on 60 pct (min) loadings of H4895?
@carolinesmith18662 жыл бұрын
I love the 7X57! The first sporting rifle my husband bought me was a Interarms MarkX Mauser with a Weaver 3-9 scope. He liked it so much he bought himself a Winchester Model 70 push feed Featherweight, which a friend moving to Montana begged for and he finally sold it.
@johnwunder35216 жыл бұрын
My first centerfire rifle; 7x57 m 1895 chilean mauser, wish i still had it... cost $25. @ gun show 1960's excellent cond. good videos thanx for helpful info.
@ronaaserude82258 жыл бұрын
an interesting example of market fickleness going full circle... reinventing the 7X57 with the 7/.08 100 years after the fact... you have a fantastic wealth of knowledge and method of relating it. Most enjoyable way to spend an evening is listening to your videos.
@jmartin90597 жыл бұрын
7mm 08 is certainly a re-invention of the 7x57... The apparent goal was to fit 7x57 in a more American sized 308 Winchester sized magazine. Both cartridges work fine. The longer neck of the 7x57 may do more to keep bullets aligned during loading.
@OldManMontgomery6 жыл бұрын
It is gaining interest as it is a marvelous round. Hunters are realizing belts, excessive velocity and brutal recoil doesn't guarantee success in the hunt.
@russellkeeling97123 жыл бұрын
@@jmartin9059 The longer neck of the 7x57 will probably cause the bore of the rifle to last longer.
@JohannSwart_JWS Жыл бұрын
My favorite caliber. Went from 30-06 and never looked back. 140 gr perfect. We hunt rather large antelope here in South Africa with that, no problems.
@bergerbroer16 жыл бұрын
I've taken many springbok, kudu and gemsbuck with my Mauser, only one shot is required. The remarkable thing is the penetration of the bullet and the small amount of meat damage. My friends used 3006 rifles which technically did the same, but the amount of meat damage was vastly different. Shoot a kudu on the shoulder with a 3006, you will lose at least 5 kg of meat and the bullet will not exit, with my Mauser you lose only a small amount of meat and you get 100% penetration. This has been the one phenomenon that really stood out for me over all the years of hunting in Africa. The best thing is that a child of 12 years can shoot this rifle and the most experienced hunter in Africa will also choose the cartridge. Just remarkable cartridge!
@strartur2 жыл бұрын
What bullets were you using in the 7x57 and 30-06 ?
@bergerbroer12 жыл бұрын
@@strartur Hi mate, in the 7x57 I used 160 GR Speer spitzer BT. This is a very clean shooting bullet with great penetration and little meat damage. The 30-06 all used 165gr bullets, I'm not sure which brand.
@strartur2 жыл бұрын
@@bergerbroer1 Thanks for the info, you placed your bullets fairly well ✊👍
@paulsimmons57264 жыл бұрын
My daughter's 7x57 M70 Featherweight is a gorgeous little rifle and when coupled with a 175g, incredible. We usually run 139's through it for a more flat trajectory, especially on thin-skinned whitetails. Very informative video, thanks for sharing your knowledge.
@scoremat4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, thank you sir. My next door neighbor gifted me a custom barreled rifle that he built chambered in 7×57mm Mauser for my first elk hunt. I shot my first and only bull so far with a 139g bullet and it did a perfect job! Thank you for turning some attention into an incredible and under used big game cartridge! Bigger isn't always better and any energy blown out the far side of the animal is wasted. I should add that the low recoil on this cartridge makes it an absolute pleasure to shoot, making you a more accurate marksman. 👊✌
@kittysox84638 жыл бұрын
My 7x57 super grade model 70 is on its way as we speak. Got plenty of h414 and 4350 to push my 140grain ttsx bullets. I can't wait!
@jeremys83605 жыл бұрын
Chad O'Hern how’d it go?
@uncleremus50462 жыл бұрын
I have the Supergrade & the Featherweight! Love em both great cartridge & a dark horse like the Swede!
@gpo19567 жыл бұрын
Sir, I just wanted to say how much I enjoy your videos. Very well thought out and a pleasure to watch.
@GoetzFamilyAsia8 ай бұрын
I went hunting in the Czech Republic in the 90s with a Ruger No. 1 with Mannlicher stock and 20" barrel and caliber 7x57mm. I shot a roe buck there at 180 m. 7x57 is a good hunting cartridge. I also had a pre-war Mauser in 7x57 (1937)and an FN Mauser in 9.3x62 caliber. I am a German from Franconia and now live in Thailand
@jum3lies4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge and experience with the world. Time spent on your channel is always a pleasure, as one finds fewer and fewer folks that avoid contention while offering a measured take on such a wide variety of shooting topics.
@baobo676 ай бұрын
Thanks for a terrific Video, Been a 7 x 57 fan for a long time, 7mm-08 has a minor advantage of shorter actions but if hand loading more a disadvantage, The 7 x57 or 7 mm Mauser or 275 Rigby whatever you wish to call it is still alive and well with the deer stalkers in Scotland, Cheers
@markhansen80782 жыл бұрын
I became interested in this caliber when reading about Jim Corbet and his tiger, leopard man eater hunts in India. I discovered one of his favorite rifles was a Rigby 275 which is 7x57 Mauser. I did some research and found that Ruger made some 7x57 Mauser rifles. It is still a popular round in Europe.
@drstrangelove49984 жыл бұрын
Fabulous, I have a Boer War Mauser in that calibre. My grandpa was in the 1st Lifeguards on Spion Kop and took a terrible hammering from the Boers. He told me troopers presented themselves at the MO complaining of a chest pain, turned out to be a bullet they hadn’t heard coming over such a long distance. Most troopers weren’t so lucky, and had to buried at night so the detail didn’t in turn get shot by a Mauser.
@chriscollinsworth47275 жыл бұрын
I've owned a 7X57 and sorry I sold them they are great cartridges. These videos are more informative than most out there and if you want Real cartridge info your's are the BESt, thanks.
@saabab14743 жыл бұрын
@Chris Collinsworth Was that in Arizona
@ad7ft7 жыл бұрын
I have a 7X57 Interarms with a FULL stock all the way to the front sight. Love you videos. Thank you.
@rubennasser69074 жыл бұрын
The grandaddy of them all is the Patrone 88, that shares the case with the later 8 Mauser and was the original rimless cartridge with a 12 mm case head that became almost standard and inspired most modern rounds.
@mikeofmanymikes2630 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information. I just bought me an old FN 7mm sporter because it was nice and cheap, but now I am glad I did. Hope it works..lol.
@oldgoat18907 жыл бұрын
I built a 7x57 on an Arisaka action. Everything I could, I made out of aluminum and titanium to lighten it up. I used a surplus 6.5 Arisaka stock that the Chinese made in the 50's to lighten it up. The barrel was sold by an importer as "A new large ring Mauser barrel in the white". It was 18 1/2" and marked "IMI", so I guess it is Israelie manufacture. It is absolutely the most accurate rifle I own. I never expected that out of a "Mountain rifle". I am always screwing around with new projects, but that is one I will never get rid of.
@Sam7x574 жыл бұрын
The intermediate case capacity coupled with a longer neck in 7mm, in my mind equals the most versatile, useful, and efficient cartridge ever made.
@YasukeKomiya8 жыл бұрын
I discovered this cartridge through research into the Philippine Revolution. The Spanish M93 Mauser was highly sought by Filipino revolutionaries. I was surprised to learn that the effectiveness of this caliber spurred the development of the 1903 due to the casualties in the Battle of San Juan Hill. I feel like that period of time in world history (between Civil War and WWI) is somewhat neglected, which is a shame as many advances in firearms were made we take for granted.
@martinstiastny76797 жыл бұрын
Nolan Alisasis You should read about the beating the Boers gave to the British in South Africa while using the 7 Mauser
@20alphabet7 жыл бұрын
Wow, I feel like I'm a student listening to my favorite teacher. Thanks!
@BlueRidgeCritter2 жыл бұрын
This video made my heart go pitter-patter. When I was a teen, I got an 1895 Chilean M95 in 7x57 That was almost in unfired condition, and fell in love with that cartridge. It breaks my heart that they are hard to find now and so expensive when you do. Just a great all around, accurate, easy to shoot cartridge. I did find out the hard way that it’s almost too much for our Eastern whitetails…don’t ask… But as long as you have some distance, I’ve never shot anything that shoots as flat as that thing.
@ciro79 Жыл бұрын
Big dady of all of them is 8x57 msuser patrone 88 developed in 1888 before 7x57.
@olhippie14 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this deserved accolade to the venerable 7X57 . A cartridge ol'cactus Jack O'Connor turned me onto as a boy in the pages of Outdoor Life ! I own a CZ550 with a Manlicker stock in that clambering that is an MOA rifle with great power and very light recoil.
@beebester41063 жыл бұрын
I have recently been gifted an old Arisaka Type 38 that was sporterized in the 70's 7mm Mauser still has the emperor's Chrysanthemum flower on it. So I'm studying up on the 7mm. Great Chanel!
@johngracejr94367 жыл бұрын
I have a 7mm mauser Chileno model 1895 Berlin. It uses the 7x57 she'll, recommended 173grn and that's what I get online usually. It's been sporterized, and has a scope etc, it drops deer, no kick hardly, and amazingly accurate. Will keep It forever. I've used it for 6yrs now without a problem. Had a gunsmith look at it b4 I bought it and boy I'm so glad I did. Serial #s all matching, found at a pawn shop for $225. Best buy I've ever found.
@jimc370811 ай бұрын
I just acquired a Chilean 1895 short mauser, I had previous owned a Spanish Oveido 1916 7mm mauser carbine I had sold, and loved it for deer or Black Bear
@ewetho2 жыл бұрын
I recently got a 6.5x257 Robert’s Ackley Improoved (& rimmed) and now a 309 JDJ which are essentially are Ackley Improved Rimmed Mauser cartridges in 6.5mm and .308 for key Encres and love them very much… Wonderful talk!
@russellkeeling97124 жыл бұрын
Mauser is now producing the 7x57 in a few different models. The #98 standard is a beautiful rifle I would love to own. Sadly they don't sell them in the United States.
@Siskiyous63 ай бұрын
Bell shot from rickety ladders, the low recoil was a must.I bought a 7 Mauser when Ruger introduced his. It still does yeoman service. I stick to 175 Remington Cor-locs, since I got a great deal on a thousand of them. I own many other rifles, but that 7 is still a go-to gun.
@georgezink82562 жыл бұрын
What a great caliber along with little brother 257 Robert lovem both
@joelodjick2304 жыл бұрын
I've had a lot of nice rifles, and I really haven't felt too bad giving them up for a cheap Zastava M98 in 7x57 at all.
@saabab14743 жыл бұрын
@Joel Odjick do you mainly prefer Springfields like the M1903 over those
@joelodjick2303 жыл бұрын
@@saabab1474 My favorites are Mauser 98 and Winchester 70 actions, but its pretty rare that I don't like any gun haha
@Mike_S_Swift5 жыл бұрын
I bought my first 7x57 in a Ruger 77 in 73’. I bought my second one around 91’ in the Remington 700 Mountain Rifle. The Ruger now wears a .244 Rem Shilen barrel but not until the Mountain Rifle proved itself to shoot as well as the Ruger. Another nice video!
@jaybailleaux6303 жыл бұрын
One of the first bolt action center fires I ever seen as a child was a Spanish Mauser in 7mm . It belong to a neighbor . Seen him shoot at a 4 to 5 in. diameter pine tree . Dang thing blew through the pine tree and splashed into the ground. That was impressive to my young eyes.
@Igneoused7 жыл бұрын
Just discovered this channel. fantastic video! Thank you for taking the time to produce such great content for us!
@TheSkinnyMechanic5 жыл бұрын
I’m a big fan of 7mm Mauser & 6.5 Swede. I like them for loading heavy-long bullets. I feel like they can handle higher weights better than their short action brethren
@russellkeeling97124 жыл бұрын
Long heavy bullets have a good sectional density and shoot quite well if your firearm has a good rate of twist.
@rodpollard70786 жыл бұрын
Great info on my favourite rifle that I have hunted Fallow and Big Reds with in south east Australia and it is a knock out calibre. I also have purchased an 2506 not so long ago and I am keen to use that a.s.a.p. on a deer hunt also. I really like all of your very informative explanations of all that you talk about.Cheers,Rod from South Australia.
@Siskiyous65 жыл бұрын
45 Years ago I bought my first rifle, a Ruger M77in 7x57, it still does the job! I flirted with 140 grain bullets for decades, but now I shoot 175 grain handloads happily. I do not have to climb up on rickety ladders to elk hunt, as Bell did to shoot those Elephants (WHich is why he wanted low recoil) but it is nice at times to shoot the gentle giant.
@randyschaff89394 жыл бұрын
Attending the gun show at my home town l came across a little mauser. Actually a friend pointed it out to me.(firearms instructor) The chap who was selling it told me it was a Spanish mauser that had been rebarreled to 7.62 Nato. OK whatever l bought it cheap took it home. Something looked wrong about it. Why is the barrel stepped down?Turns out it is chambered for 7x57 mauser. It also is fitted with a Williams peep sight! What luck! Got myself two boxes of Serbian PPU 139 gr spire points. As it turns out it shoots excellent! I grew up shooting with iron sights and especially peep sights. Long story short. A sweet shooting handy little rifle with plenty of power to take anything in N America. Thank you🇨🇦🤠
@randyschaff89394 жыл бұрын
let us prey Thanks for the comment. I like everything and l am fascinated by history and the way things come about especially the 7x57. All l could afford was a .303 whenl was a kid. It has a story behind it too. I couldn’t justify going out and buying since l was caught up in the magnum age and that is all l was using at the time so it finally came to pass. I got my 7x57 and it’s a good one.🇨🇦🤠
@Eccentric5B5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video. Very timely for me. I've been planning my next rifle build in 7x57AI. Next after that will be a .284 Win. Both will be on long actions and will be throated for the longer, heavier VLD/ELD bullets for shooting at 1000 yards and beyond. I'll keep myself busy for quite some time developing loads for both of them and comparing results. Of course a 7mm Rem Mag or .280 Rem (or .280 AI) will exceed those two cartridges in their ability to push the heavies a bit faster. I'm looking to go for maximum 'efficiency', minimal recoil, less case trimming over the life of the brass, and longer barrel throat life however. I also like doing something a bit different than what the pack finds popular. The 7-08 is a great round (especially in a deer rifle), but really is hampered when loading the longer/heavier bullets in the short action rifles that it was intended for. Building them on a long action helps of course, but in that case I'd rather go with a .284 Win, 7x57AI, or .280AI. Maybe I'll build a .280AI after the other two for further comparisons.
@jmfa576 жыл бұрын
I just got one after 3 decades of searching, a sporterized Venezuelan M1924/30 made in Belgium, sitting in a beautiful full length Mannlicher stock by Fajen. Whoever did it did a nice job. I can't find a single round of factory ammo for it in SoCal so I ordered some brass, dies and bullets and made my own. I haven't had a chance to try it yet but I am looking forward to wonderful things. Another favorite of mine is the 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser, which is amazing. Great video, thanks for posting!
@joeybickley48775 жыл бұрын
I have a custom rifle in 7x57 Mauser built by P.O. Ackley in 1980. My favorite rifle. Nick named the “mojo” for Bell.
@wilmamcdermott30653 жыл бұрын
Have a 300 winchester magnum built on interarms action by O.O.Ackley in the 60s
@wilmamcdermott30653 жыл бұрын
Your rifle was personalized by P.O. Ackley so worth a lot more than mine
@bullrambler8 жыл бұрын
Greetings GunBlue490 thanks for sharing another one of your common sense and informative rifle /cartridge videos.
@Me2Lancer4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for mentioning the 7 x 57 Mauser. I just pulled my old M1895 Spanish Mauser Carbine our of the safe yesterday. As you suggested it is a joy to shoot. I learned a lot from you presentation. I also have an M1916 Spanish Mauser and have owned the 7mm Remington Magnum. In a way, the 7 x 57 is the grandfather of most modern cartridges.
@chrismiller97404 жыл бұрын
My favorite rifle is a pre 64 Winchester 7x57 my grandad left me. Low recoil, super accurate. Never have lost a head of game with it.
@GunBlue4904 жыл бұрын
That's a great combination and a wonderful way to remember your grandad.
@virginia73705 жыл бұрын
Good vid ... Thanks. 7mm Mauser (7x57) is one of the finest cartridges around ... I've got a little Ruger RSI in 7x57. Over the years I've come to figure all you need for hunting anything in the lower 48 is 7x57, or 7mm-08, or 270Win. But, there's something kinda' neat about hunting with the old 7mm Mauser.
@GunBlue4905 жыл бұрын
There certainly is, Ollie.
@gjohnson76494 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I've taken deer with a lot of old military rounds 45-70, 30 carbine, .223, 30-06, 308, 8MM, 6.5 carcano...hell even 45ACP and 9MM but the 7X57 is hands down the most efficient of the rigs I own. Short blood trails (if i have to trail at all) and very little wasted meat. For me it ain't about who can blow the biggest hole. It's more about putting Bambi in the skillet. The more Bambi I have left to put in the skillet, the better. " Anything past dead is just wasted powder and lead."
@saabab14743 жыл бұрын
@G Johnson well said I was out walking 2 days ago I saw some movement and in a draw near some trees there was a lone mule deer I wasn't hunting seriously since this Is a city park he took off and cleared a fence and was in the forest pretty quickly Are you hunting in Utah?
@clintleffingwell81292 жыл бұрын
I sure do love shooting my mild, yet effective, 7x57 Mausers. A 7x57 cartridge using a 140-154 grain bullet over a moderate powder charge gives you a real sweet balance between accuracy, terminal performance, and pleasant shootability round-after-round.
@peterpta5 жыл бұрын
I have two, one open sighted 98 and a Ribgy stalking rifle. I bought a 98 Stutzen for one of my friends when he started hunting (275 €) and an Interarms Zastava for another one (220 €). Had them both bedded and recrowned. 140 gr Sierra Game King, 42 gr N140. Done. Half Inch groups. Red deer and (until now) up to 190 pound boar drop like flies. 100 percent reliable performers. It's hard to believe, but what worked earlier still works today.
@Mattgrace647 жыл бұрын
Ruger m77 in 7x57 is the only deer rifle I've ever used for deer. Got the rifle from my dad who never used it as his go too was his 308.
@russellkeeling97124 жыл бұрын
I know the .308 is very popular but I have never really cared for it. I can't name anything wrong with it but I just like the 7x57. I gave my .308 to a youngster that needed a first hunting rifle. If you feel you must be an extended range shooter the 7x57 can play in the same game as the new hotshot the 6.5 Creedmore.
@weshill23673 жыл бұрын
Ok really Like.what you are talking about.with the 7/57 I just picked one up! In a Swedish mouser . That’s a butterfly made gun. Want to lurne more. Planning on doing some hunting with it next year.thank you so much
@Centerbez2 жыл бұрын
Probably 7x57 its my favourite cartridge, its a masterpiece of perfect equilibrate combinations.
@charlottemartin12305 жыл бұрын
One of the best little dance numbers ever! The only problem with the 7x57mm Mauser was designed for old rifles with low pressure SAAMI specks, kept the store ammunition woefully under-loaded and made the 7mm-08 a superior round. The case itself has a small advantage over the .308 based cases; this is the parent case to the .257 Roberts and .244/6mm Remington.
@anthonykaiser974 Жыл бұрын
I've found at least with 6.5x55, buy Norma loaded ammo. Their loads are for modern guns, but there's no indication you can't use them in Swedish Mausers, so they can't be too hot. A 140 grain Partition load was 2690 fps. Similar load by Swift w/A Frame is only 2550.
@anthonykaiser974 Жыл бұрын
Actually any Scandinavian brand. Sako 140 gr Super Hammerheads are 2674.
@kurtrobinson19262 жыл бұрын
I still use my Winchester model 70 in 7X57 for hunting. Have so since 1984. haven't found anything worth investing in to replace it.
@hawkeyeinthehouse2995 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your informative and interesting video. I didn't realize most of what you said about the 7X57 cartridge, I knew about it used a lot for hunting in Africa and other areas. I had about the Elephant hunter that killed that almost unbelievable number. I was FORTUNATE to pickup a old interesting commercial Mauser 98 and possibly made by KRUPP. It has a BEAUTIFUL Krupp barrel (hexagon shape at the receiver goes to OKround and FULL LENGTH RIB with express sights). It has a spoon bolt handle and twin set triggers. The numbers match on the barrel, receiver, magazine well, gas shield, bolt and trigger assembly so I believe it was made by some gunsmithing guild in Germany (preWW2 proofing marks, crown over N) so really can't say how early it was made (turn of the century maybe?). Unfortunately the stock is NOT ORIGINAL BUT IS A PRETTY BOYD STOCK. There is a little bit of engraving in a couple places but not much (end of the bolt handle, bottom of the mag well and the edges of the receiver. It's in GOOD+ CONDITION which is OK. OH OF COURSE IT'S IN 7X57 MAUSER. I have 2 brothers who collect ONLY MILITARY STUFF BUT I LIKE THE OLD COMMERCIAL GERMAN MADE MAUSERS BECAUSE THEY WERE MADE WITH TLC and not slapped together for WAR EFFORT even though their military standards were still pretty until near the end of the WAR. SO WHAT DO YOU THINK I HAVE WITH THAT 7 mm Mauser? Keep up the good work informating people about the OLD STUFF. 😉😃😃😃😃😃
@joeltowle27375 жыл бұрын
Bell went from the 6.5 to the 7X57 because the bullets held together better! Another great video!
@Me2Lancer4 жыл бұрын
I have owned a 7mm 1893 Mauser since the mid-1970s and I'm still very fond of it. I wish the caliber had greater support today. TRs Rough Riders took note of the effectiveness of this cartridge at San Juan Hill. Thank you for your advice and recommendations.
@saabab14743 жыл бұрын
@Rich Weatherly How much do those cost now in Arizona?
@Me2Lancer3 жыл бұрын
@@saabab1474 I really don't know. Availability is most likely limited but it remains a great cartridge and rifle. For a time in the late 1890s the 7x57 was the go to round for hunting in Africa.
@michaelmichaelson84524 жыл бұрын
BLUF: I love you videos and you are 99% correct on all points so please take this with a grain of salt. Actually the 8x57J (M88 commission rifle Gewher 88 cartridge used a .318" diameter round nose bullet of 227grains) is the grand daddy of almost all post 1888 centerfire non-magnum rifle cartridges. As it came before all the rest in 1888 then the 7.65x53 Belgian 1889, then the 7x57 Spanish Mauser in 1892/3. Then the Swede 6.5x55 in 1894, Then the 1903 (30-03 Government) The M88 8x57J was update in 1905 to a lighter Spitzer bullet 154grains with a .323" diameter. The 30-03 Government was updated in 1906 following suit with a lighter bullet and a little shorter case neck.
@jamessuhr96676 жыл бұрын
I have used a Steyr M98 1912 Mauser in 7x57 for Hunting game in New Zealand ,for many years.Hares,Rabbits,wild goats,Fallow,Sika and Red deer.wild Pigs.Friends using the same Rifles have taken Thar and Chamois in the Southern Alps ,Along with Wapiti and Rusa deer.We welcome overseas hunters.
@mR-wn3vl7 ай бұрын
Excellent
@jjiacobucci5 жыл бұрын
Great dissertation. Thank you, Professor !
@Mike_S_Swift8 жыл бұрын
Great cartridge. Love mine
@JohnSmith-pu3pm3 жыл бұрын
This guy was hard for me to find again, but man, he knows his stuff.
@jonperley73043 жыл бұрын
I had my XP100 chambered in 7x57 for metallic silhouette shooting dime sized groups at 200 meters pep sight!!!
@Quentin2175 жыл бұрын
I have a Spanish Mauser that was built at the Oviedo Arsenal in back 1899. Obviously it must be a replacement for a similar rifle that had been lost the year before in the Spanish American War. I bought it in mint (perhaps arsenal re-conditioned) condition from a gun store back in '82. I noticed right away that it has a blond maple wood stock and soon thereafter that it was excessively head spaced for factory loads. The primers would back halfway out when they came out of the chamber and then would back out the rest of the way in my pocket. The worst problem was that it was battle sight zeroed at a ridiculously long range, and then the adjustments went up from there. I had a custom-made and hooded high sight made for the front and had a used Williams peep installed on the rear. Even at that, I have to screw it down all the way to keep the elevation down to where I want it. I like to load it with 45 grains of IMR 4831 behind a 175 grain round nose or a 150 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip. With the original sights and a 175-grain Federal load, I drilled a coyote on the far bank way down the Missouri in the Missouri Breaks of Montana. The "H" ladder rear sight was flipped down, and I put the top of the barleycorn front sight on the lower windward quadrant of the tiny brown blob that showed on the far bank. The poor varmint just splashed into the river from the bank. Then I had to chase it down in the canoe and then laboriously bring it far upstream back to camp. I lined it most of the way back. The 175 grain factory round nose just drilled through the lungs without any evidence of expanding. It was in incredible shot aided by a lucky guess on the range, a good prone rest, and almost no breeze. The pelt decorated the top of one of my book cases for many years until it met with an accident. On that same hunt, I bagged a nice white tail doe at short range with no problem at all. .
@rosswitte Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this video. Love this cartridge.
@kesleycottrell1416 Жыл бұрын
Where would rifles be without Peter Paul Mauser. In particular where would we be without the latch on Mauser's outhouse door. That always made me smile. No outhouse latch no bolt action rifles. Personally I'm big into that 98 action. Dang thing is amazing. Made 7 awesome rifles starting with that action. Everything from a .22-250 to a .338 Win Mag.
@kevi1524 жыл бұрын
I use a Mauser 66 in 7x57 and assure you that the over all length with a 24 inch barrel is shorter than most short action normal mauser 98 type actions. The balance is more like a double barreled rifle.
@ronsouth33592 жыл бұрын
Excellent!!! Very good common sense channel!!! Excellent job enjoy it very much!!
@eugenegress5896 Жыл бұрын
Great Video, Sir. Hope you and your family are doing well. Would be great to know what background , Occupation was.
@harrisonbosley68123 жыл бұрын
My two favorites, 6mm Remington & 257 Roberts both based on the 7 X 57. A 6mm with a 55g Nosler BT & 53g W760 is flatter than the 220 Swift & 22-250, great coyote load!
@russellkeeling97123 жыл бұрын
I also enjoy my 6mm Remington. With an 85 grain bullet I need only put the crosshair where I want to hit a coyote at 300 yards and pull the trigger. Result, harvested coyote. I can use the same bullet at the same distance to harvest deer. The 6mm does a lot of meat damage though so I try to use a rifle with a better sectional density like my 7mm mauser.
@uralbob17 жыл бұрын
My next rifle is a 7x57. Since I was a very young man in the earl 60's, I was interested in this cartridge, mainly because my uncle Dick, a great sportsman and wildlife biologist, used the cartridge for dear in an old pre'64 M70. This uncle also turned me on to my first center fire cartridge, the .222 Rem. I would love it in a CZ 550, or maybe a Ruger #1 if I can find one. I see the ammo for sale, but thank God for handloading. It should be a fun load to work up.
@GunBlue4907 жыл бұрын
Robert Tisch It's a tremendously versatile round that can be loaded with extremely large variety of bullet weights and useful velocities. It's one of the rounds where commercial loadings have been kept conservative in deference to older weak rifles, but with modern rifles, has a somewhat greater capacity and potential than the 7mm-08, especially with long, heavy bullets, but works equally well with standard subdued loads.
@charlieandhudsonspal13125 жыл бұрын
Uh oh, you and I are looking for the same two rifles. Good luck brother. And I mean that. Plus I love my Rem 788 in .222!
@gaildimick18312 жыл бұрын
I like my 7x57 Oberndorph made in 1939. Shoots straight, nice double set trigger, claw mt. Scope.
@kencleg77212 жыл бұрын
All my gun smiths of the past there deer cartridge in a fast handled rifle was in 7 x 57
@atthebrink746 жыл бұрын
The great thing about these old classic cartridges is they were made to fill an actual need. So many (all) of these new cartridges are all hype! Nothing new under the sun. Take the glamour boy 6.5 creedmore, almost exact the same as the 260 Remington, which can be compared to the 6.5 Swede. Now they introduce the 6mm Creedmore. Same as the 6MM Rem and 243 Win. Hype hype hype. I like the classics, always on the hunt for them. I would like to have a 8mm Mauser, 7mm Mauser, and a 257 Roberts. I have the 6mm Remington. It would be cool to have all those that are based on the same case.
@hunt40204 жыл бұрын
Pthe 6.5 mm Creedmoor and 6 mm Creedmoor are not hype. They have more efficient bullets than other comparable or larger calibers. 6mm better than .243 Win, and 6.5 mm better than .260 Rem. .308 Win and I would suggest even steals a lot of thunder from .30-06. Better bullets and cartridges. Not a fad rather a significant improvement in the industry, spawning 6.5 PRC and .300 PRC. Other cartridges will typically only achieve similar performance with more powder and recoil. Certainly NOT hype..
@charliefox38095 жыл бұрын
Plenty of good information in your videos sir. I really appreciate them.
@JayJay3Fifty75 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaaaa, laying your hand on a cactus plant! I frequently sit on cactus plants when slaying yotes. Wranglers jeans just do not do a good job of repelling cactus needles. Love your vids GunBlue490, love 'em. I almost bought a Remington 700 Classic 7x57, wished I had. Be nice to see a Winchester, Remington or CZ put out a 7x57 with a 24" barrel.
@richvalentine18896 жыл бұрын
Love my 1914 7mm Mauser
@starstrike818 жыл бұрын
Well done sir! I love weapons history.
@martinstiastny76797 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed your video. Also read the comments of the other posters. Why the 7x57, 275 Rigby, 7mm Mauser ? Because of nostalgia, because the difference in the field between the 7-08 and the Mauser is really nothing. Daring deeds by WDM Bell on elephant or Col. Jim Corbett on man eating tiger's & leopards can never be equaled again. The cartridge is hunting romance of a time never again. You don't need a belted cartridge all the time. Muzzle brakes not needed. Synthetic stocks (Yes, they have their place and very useful) need to give way to walnut.
@martinstiastny76797 жыл бұрын
A cartridge that for some unknown reason never really "made" it on American soil, but has history and a nostalgia all its own, is the 9.3x62. I don't know, maybe to many numbers confuses people. But this cartridge developed in 1905 was well thought of by Taylor and, as pointed out by Greg Woods (another author of African hunting books), still has a magical aura around it. Please do a presentation on that cartridge.
@oldgoat18907 жыл бұрын
If you build guns there is a big difference. The 7MM-08 will feed through short action guns, but rarely will the series of .308 cased cartridges feed through medium action rifles with out some trouble. I have a 99 Savage I reworked to .260 Remington. I could never get a 6.5x55 to work without major changes. The 99 actually was chambered in 7MM-08 from the factory. I have a 6.5x55 and a 6MM Remington on Arisaka actions. Who cares about the 9.3x62 in the USA? We have plenty of rounds as good or better. I was out today turkey hunting with my Savage 22 HiPower. It is dead in the States, but still has a following in Europe. Sometimes that is the way it is. I thought of that because I have seen pictures of hunters that killed tigers with the HiPower.
@bustersmith55694 жыл бұрын
@Superdude70 I wish I understood what you are saying ??
@jamesmooney5348 Жыл бұрын
Here, I've heard you say the 7x57 was the 06's parent. I could not figure out why you were saying that. A few weeks ago I pulled out my calipers and took a few measurements. I was surprised! I don't know why, to me, they looked different circumference while side by side. Calipers straightened out my incorrect thinking.
@christerhauknes68408 жыл бұрын
Im using the sister cartridge 7x57R in my Merkel 96K Drilling. Awsome cartridge that i use for everything from Grouse and up to Moose. Thinking of re-chambering my M98 from 30-06 to 7x57 so i can use the same bullets, powder and dies for both weapons.
@garyevans34214 жыл бұрын
The only trouble with the great 7x57 is most ammo manufacturers keep the pressure down because of all the pre 98s out there chambered for the round. Handloaders will do just fine!
@grantmo82111 ай бұрын
It's not the Mausers that ammo makers worry about, it's the many Remington rolling block rifles in 7x57. Some of these were made or altered with a "Spanish" chamber that's a bit more generous than modern 7x57 dimensions, & many have also developed headspace issues after decades of use. Any Mauser bolt gun made will shoot 7x57 until the barrel wears out. It'll likely take a couple lifetimes, & keep right on going once you screw a new barrel into it.
@pauldeahl39802 жыл бұрын
I bought a Winchester Model 70 in 7x57 and it shoots Federal Power Shock 139 grn to 3/4 MOA. Couldn’t ask for a better hunting rifle. I can’t wait to hand load for it to see how much I can shrink that group.
@charleshuyck66412 жыл бұрын
The 7x 57 caused a lawsuit with our 3006 where we paid Germany 200k, back in those days was a lot. Every caliber has merit I own from 270's 3 of them 2 06s and one of my favorites my heavy barrel 308 sniper rifle, which harks back to my service. Even the 8mm Mauser if loaded well is a great hunting round. Bullet construction has gotten away from sectional density, ie, I believe the now defunct Winchester Failsafe prompted this. I now do things with a 150 grain 308 hot loaded Barnes 150 all copper, boat tailed ballistic tip I would need an 06 or 300 win to do in the past. A 180 grain Corelokt 3006 at all practical ranges penetrates 1.5 ballistics gel blocks and expands 1.8 xs. My 150 grain Barnes out of the 308 penetrates 5 blocks. Figure that with BC. It opens to 1.8 xs as well. Bullet design is crazy now and a game changer. But all and all the brilliance of the Germans with the Mauser Cartridges and the 9mm pistol cannot be diminished. Pure Genius. Good video.
@craiglacount89 Жыл бұрын
Just bought a 7x57 and started doing load development for it. The deeper I get into it the more I love this cartridge, in fact I find myself scratching my head wondering why the 7MM 08 was ever developed and why people clamored over it? We already had it and in fact it’s a better cartridge the 7x57. Just another case of good marketing and taking advantage of some unfortunate misconceptions about the capabilities of the 7x57. We could easily have just added a +P rating to the 7x57 and saved a lot of people a lot of money and they’d be using a superior cartridge. Oh well the manufacturers don’t make as much money that way and we all do need for them to be successful to continue supporting the shooting sports industry.
@grantmo82111 ай бұрын
The 7x57 is a peach of a round in it's factory trim, & +p loadings are a solution for a non-existent problem. Any itch to hotrod it can be scratched by the .280 Remington, which is the .30-06 necked down to 7mm, & which will give you flatter trajectories, especially with the heavier bullets. But that speed & power come at the cost of a heavier rifle with heavier recoil. The 7x57 doesn't, & it's one of the major reasons why so many like it. A light rifle with light recoil that brings down the game just the same is the main reason why the 7x57 is still beloved at 122 years young.