The Big Dig - Burying Rail to Improve Connectivity in a Downtown Area | Verde Beach 84

[@atharva_kari]

Idk if anyone has called you this, but your peaceful voice and knowledge of city planning makes you like the bob ross of urban planning

[@colins.5536]

He's been called that for the past while hahah... Totally agree

[@Deepak-gt9wd]

his dad laugh is GOLD

[@matnovak]

i see that remark every single video but i don't blame anyone bc it's correct

[@BrotherSkodidi]

You have confirmed a deep truth. CityPlanner Phil is the Bob Ross of the 2020s ... No pressure, CPP ...

[@BeckaBaka]

This is often remarked upon, XD. IIRC, there's a Bob Ross Memorial Interchange in this build!

[@maczafarana8989]

Bummer I was also hoping to see the scars from the old rail network turn into park space and more development instead of roads. Either way, this inspired me to do this in a future build. Also very impressed with how you manage such complex transit networks

[@CityPlannerPlays]

I would have liked to as well, but there were a number of road connections that had been missing for a while. That said, there is still quite a bit of space available for smaller parks, so I'll have to work a few in!

[@maczafarana8989]

@@CityPlannerPlays I always appreciate how you approach it realistically. I’d imagine a city having functioning infrastructure would take priority over some pretty parks

[@thegreatkingmike08]

It made me sad when you brought the large collector back up to grade when it already had an existing tunnel. Would have been a perfect place for pedestrian facilities and local roads instead. The new collector seems like a huge swing and a miss. To elaborate, the "Verde Beach Government" neighborhood feels just as disconnected from the community as before. The large collector roads would make for an intimidating walk and that is a shame for the government center area... it should be equally accessible for people of all modes of transit. Love the video itself, as you can see I am probably way too mentally invested, but I think that means you are making great videos.

[@CityPlannerPlays]

You know, I think you make a really, really good point there and now I regret that. I do think I can remedy some of this with some road diets, so look for that in the next one. I have a few other ideas on how to Copenhagenize the area... so stay tuned!

[@andrewslejska4205]

I need to go back over the new road layout you added later but id consider some road diets and car connection decreases while allowing delivery using policies to improve greenspace while keeping traffic down. Those arterials look underutilized for their size. Just because there is space doesnt mean they need to be filled with roads. Also removing the arterial loop around the government district could give you space for that freight terminal seeing as it should be a collector if anything. I dont think there was bad traffic there to begin with. But im just a standard youtube commentor. This place is awesome. Its funny watching this series because you can almost tell what projects you might be doing in real life and it translates into that weeks build.

[@PeterSmitGroningen]

I agree with this comment

[@Valthalin]

The road speeds should be tweaked to direct traffic flow, the larger roads need a higher speed and some of the smaller ones might need a decrease to make the larger roads more attractive to the simulation. Banning trucks on some of the smaller roads would also be a real life way of directing the flow. You almost never see a truck route being designated in a cities skylines build for whatever reason.

[@andrewslejska4205]

@@Valthalin i forgot if he added any mods besides the ones to address the node and performance issues. The whole point of verde beach was for limited mods. Unless you know another way to set speeds.

[@CityPlannerPlays]

I think you're spot on there and you have just influenced the next episode. Thank you, Andrew!!

[@pierredenis2559]

a so beautifull green river destroyed just to add useless ugly roads! nonsense!

[@spit0flip]

What a shame, would have benefitted with a nice long park and community space like The High Line project, rather than a road.

[@owenyoshida9202]

I'm pretty sure that if a city did something like this in real life, they would put the tunnels in the existing right of way so they do not have to dig deep bored tunnels underneath high rises. I understand that the game mechanics can be limiting though! I haven't played vanilla for years.

[@AstrumG2V]

It would never work where I live cuz the soul's all sand so every single building has 20m+ long poles underneath it! Imagine the pandemonium that would break out if some knuckleheads decided to bore straight through those 🤣

[@diogoreis7117]

Where i live Porto Portugal they adding to the metro network by putting tunnels underneath existing buildings

[@nagynorbert26]

I was thinking about the same

[@adamm457]

It is definitely a feat of engineering but is done a lot in places like Singapore, Taiwan, and Tokyo. Those 3 examples aren’t even a drop in the bucket.

[@juliahenriques210]

It's 100% possible. Just dig deep through bedrock. São Paulo's metro goes at least 40 meters (12+ stories) deep at some points. Kiev's go more than 100 meters deep. People could be tunneling like crazy at that depth and you wouldn't even feel it unless they messed it up real hard.

[@DADeathinacan]

Yeah, I still say that a local downtown cargo terminal would be useful. The number of freight trucks using the new additions to the network shows that on its own. Plus(leaving aside the various spates of demolishing and such) its even prototypical

[@CityPlannerPlays]

Might be. I'm going to be keeping an eye on it. I really wanted to keep the lines totally separated from one another, but I could make an exception if things don't clear up. I think that's a better solution than a big highway!

[@RryhhbfrHhgdHhgd356]

1:57 That pause when Phil said “private rail companies” 😂 He was clearly biting back some sort of… less than polite… comment there (he has even discussed previously that they are notoriously trying to deal with some times). Also, just in general, this is an astronomically pricey project. The amount of sections that Phil buried needlessly *cough, under the river, cough* is insane. I wonder if the tunneling company here was offering a “bury five kilometers, get another kilometer buried free” deal. Certainly feels like it.

[@thundercheckov9782]

Probably some local government officials have stocks in those tunneling companies ! :p

[@RryhhbfrHhgdHhgd356]

@@thundercheckov9782 Ah yes, the venerable, technological lifespan extended Senator Elon Musk. 😂

[@Valthalin]

This was all a test of the new tunneling machines by PhilCo, which gave the city a discount as long as they can use it for later promotional materiel. Nothing shady has occurred, no bags of money have exchanged hands according to the Mayor's Office.

[@CityPlannerPlays]

I probably shouldn't comment on all that.... haha I agree on the river tunnel. I probably should have done something similar to what I did near the Pyrotechnic. It isn't too late for a mulligan....

[@BrotherSkodidi]

@@CityPlannerPlays Maybe Venture-capitalist Rich B. Yondebelleef struck a deal with the city to let him test his new tunnel-boring products?

[@OpenMindet]

This is something what happens nearly the same right now with "Stuttgart 21", an urban railway development project in Stuttgart, Germany. The current network is getting replaced by a huge tunnel system, which provides an enourmous space in the middle of the city for new development. :)

[@690_5]

I love Archer. (sorry for not being about your comment, I can barely read right now.)

[@matthewk7429]

But wasn't the main reason to replace a terminus station with a through station to increase capacity?

[@stereotype.6377]

@@matthewk7429 Yes, but they also just could've demolished parts of the city to do that

[@beerforlife32]

@@matthewk7429 If that would have been the reason, then the project has faild even before they started the construction.

[@jakobmiddelberg2938]

I have to say, I'm a little disappointed. It's great to clear up a couple of these old rail tracks to free up some space. However I would've loved to see a larger priority on bike facilities and a little park instead of another massive road. The government district seems largely disconnected from the rest of the city... Still a very entertaining episode, thank you :)

[@beastateverythin]

Same. I don’t like it because it’s realistic lol. Especially since VB is based on California & Florida I think it’s realistic to see all these roads put in because of that lack of connectivity through the area. But I wish they were bike facilities and parks 😢

[@David-bh7hs]

@@beastateverythin bikes can't carry freight

[@Valthalin]

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[@CityPlannerPlays]

I'll touch on this comment in the next one. I understand your disappointment and I'm going to fix some of it... but the main purpose of this build was to improve connectivity to resolve freight and deathcare issues. The real shame is that we don't have woonerfs or transit-only roads that allow freight and deathcare, but minimal or no car traffic.

[@Mustango5]

@@David-bh7hs The Dutch beg to differ!

[@jeremizajac7197]

Great episode Phil! One idea - the New Kellerhouse is an enormous pedestrian barriere right now. Maybe you’d consider some ficilities to get across?

[@CityPlannerPlays]

Absolutely! We're not close to done with this build, but I recognized that I was running out of time to finish it. In the next one, we'll focus on bikes, peds, targeted road diets, and more!

[@jeremizajac7197]

@@CityPlannerPlays That’s great! Thanks!

[@NightKnight347]

I really hate that new collector road. It just doesn't serve a useful purpose other than potentially a monaco-style race track through the city. Was expecting local roads and more development to recoup the cost of all the mass rail burial. Potentially some of the existing roads could be upgraded to collectors/couplets instead to make better use of the space and spread out your major roadways.

[@buckyjames1898]

When I saw the title I was thinking of something like Atlanta's beltline trail, I know that it's super common to turn old rail corridors into trails and and it's a great way to reuse right of way that's already in the middle of a roadway network. The connectivity is great, but the collector seems to add another barrier, especially between Government and Sugar Hill

[@martinlehtonen]

I think more indepth analysis should have been made of the road network and what is needed. Now roadlayout seems to have been just an afterthought. I hope I smell a mulligan

[@f1guremeout]

When you could have replaced the beltway with a green belt, you went for what every city planner does: more roads, bigger roads, wider roads! 😆

[@martinlehtonen]

The density of large roads is crazy. Huge 4-lane roads with no real reason. You could have just made some critical connections without adding that large road. Realistically that area freed from the rails would have been used for buildings. Now it's expensive waste of space and adding cost without serving real porpose

[@Valthalin]

He built a 6 lane road, which then had a single car using it. I almost died laughing. I think he needs to up the speed on those new large connectors since they have nothing zoned on them to cause any slowdown.

[@neurofiedyamato8763]

greenbelt is nice but doesn't really solve the problems with downtown. 2 lane local roads and pedestrian connections would be the best use of land with more tall buildings.

[@alexmonk]

So train becames a metro. I think you should abandon Banana Hights' train station. Only a few people use it - also there is Garden City train near. Honestly, i don't understand the purpose of new collector (around govenment distict). Because it have 2 major connections - both with the same collector (that runs through government district).

[@transscribe]

as a native new englander, seeing "the big dig" in the title made me shudder

[@RryhhbfrHhgdHhgd356]

I mean, if it weren’t for the corruption, criminal negligence, and the fact that adding more lanes to a road never alleviates traffic *ever*, it would have been fine. 😂

[@TAP7a]

​@@RryhhbfrHhgdHhgd356 Induced demand will forever plague car dependent infrastructure, a feature that only mass transit has the ability to absorb and use to improve itself and the place around it

[@iangoodsell]

@@RryhhbfrHhgdHhgd356 agreed, but also probably would have been better if Ted Kennedy had been able to push through the mass transit improvements that were supposed to have been developed alongside the road improvements. Regardless, it was a needed upgrade to the city, I-93 was a complete mess before. It’s only a partial mess now. 😀

[@RryhhbfrHhgdHhgd356]

@@iangoodsell And better still, most of that mess is buried!

[@CityPlannerPlays]

Sorry about that

[@sammyquick793]

I think getting rid of the above ground train tracks opens up opportunity for green space! I was thinking something along the lines of the Turia Gardens park in Valencia, Spain.

[@james-uc7lh]

Walking the length of that park down to the Pont l'Assut de l'Or was so amazing on my trip to Valencia, probably the coolest park I've been to and so varied

[@sammyquick793]

@@james-uc7lh I have seen many KZbin videos about it but I would definitely love to take a trip some day, looks beautiful there!

[@popdartan7986]

The big dig in Boston is beautiful, great idea

[@harrydean5089]

Really did not expect you to replace the new areas with large roads. I was expecting to retain some of those forests as parks as well as seamlessly connect up the grids with local roads.

[@zanehamstead5931]

This one is so killer to watch because of how easy it would be to tunnel these lines with mods; maybe a 10 minute process. I commend you! Love the series.

[@wavesAndBerms]

Your really set the standard for Cities Skylines themed videos. The context that you provide makes the videos so much more interesting. I wish other content developers would follow your lead.

[@CityPlannerPlays]

[@ChinaMo]

So many things about this episode were so satisfying! 🤩🤩🤩 Roadway and pedestrian connections certainly matter, but people can walk anywhere, and vehicles--with good suspension and clearance _can_ go offroad if they must. Whereas trains are inherently bound to their tracks, such that any backups mean being stuck until things clear up ahead. So when railway and metro connections are made to enhance streamlined flow, I'm a very happy viewer!! ☺👍 _(This may or may not have to do with having had to spend hours stuck in a train underground due to backups of one kind or another on a number of occasions in NYC)._ 😅

[@thundercheckov9782]

Impressive job redesigning the whole rail infrastructure, using space for rail efficiently has always been my weakest spot in my cities, i'll try to take some inspiration ! By the way, that new open area by the central station seems perfect for a small city park, maybe a bit of a relief for the locals after all the disturbing roadworks they've been through !

[@ryanseipp6944]

This is one of my favorite videos. Exciting to see rail get cleaned up and improved, and communities start to be rejoined. Realistic or not just due to the sheer cost and communities involved, these types of infrastructure projects are my favorite to watch.

[@kontenterrorist2449]

One of the reasons why your freight traffic was messed up was because you did not reinstate the connection through Downtown. Also, flyovers using single tracks might in some places become a good idea as traffic density increases making those flat junctions problematic.

[@owenmergliano8160]

I think it would be neat if you added a small park in that empty space that used to have the rails leading into the stayion. You could add back one of the original rail tracks and have paths leading around it. Kind of like the industrial rail bridge park in New York. I think it would be realistic because of the amount of people around it. It would be a good place to hang out for a majority of the central downtown population.

[@nicolmiller5641]

Perfect location and time for a long city park and you filled it full of roads.

[@BreadTheLoaf]

Instead of a road it would of been cool to see a bike trail / ped trail park all down the old lines.

[@squifftopher]

I completely agree, I just didn't sense the need those lads. Here's hoping for a mulligan 🥂

[@Icarus8311]

Im actually quite happy you did this! When possible (and when flaunting realism), I try to elevate or bury my rail lines, create "The Ant Tunnels" with underground pedestrian tunnels that crisscrossed the city, and lay an underground highway system with dedicated express routes. My first try with all of this was a mess but subsequent iterations got better.

[@stereotype.6377]

If there's one thing I have learned in my time watching CCP, is that generally one ''topic'' (rail lines in this case) comes back in both/all series CCP does at the same time... So, I am reaaaalllllyyy curious to see if Clearwater County is going to get a renovation of its rail infrastructure now CCP has learned to work with the advanced node controller!

[@CityPlannerPlays]

Absolutely! Sometimes, I end up wanting to get better in a specific area of the game and focus on it in all of my builds. In other situations, the topic is just at the front of mind for one reason or another.

[@tbestig4164]

I really loved that long angular greenfield running through the city after you buried the trains, it looked very cool and added a lot of new ‘park’ space. Kind of a shame to fill it back in with more concrete lol

[@EroSenseiPT]

I don't think i've dislked an episode as much as this one, rip train spotters in Verde Beach, i hope they live looking at asphalt and cars, cause that's all they're getting now.

[@springer1985]

I love how every time, City Planner is like "we are going to pause it.... actually no we're not!"

[@Vespy17]

I think your confusion on the banana district connection was misguided. If I remember correctly, you never had a line going from that area towards Merytle Estates/Space station. That connection was just there for outside connections

[@dennisd7]

This makes me think of Berlin, Germany - there are so many strange little imperfections, no doubt because of WWII damage, and splitting and then reconnecting east and west. As an example the Tempelhof airport is now a park, but there are still weirdly placed lights and whatnot visible on rooftops from having an airport crammed into a city. I think it adds to a city to have historical artifacts like that.

[@benjaminsmith3625]

Excellent episode to post on the day that Crossrail finally opens!

[@thebearded_guardian3671]

Am I the only one here that had a slight trigger in memory of the great rail problem from like a year ago on this build? I distinctly remember like 5 or more episodes where a large chunk of the episodes revolved around rail connections

[@bradyghan5872]

One quick note on the bike highway, you could terraform and make the center segment at grade to save on cost of maintaining bridge lengths! Love the videos!

[@quoniam426]

Paris did sort of this in the 13th district over 20 years ago, the project is still ongoing but nearing completion. The goal was to cover the Austerlitz station access tracks to turn the over track space into a whole new neighbourood to link the West and East parts of the district and remove the barrier that the tracks formed. What helped is that old industries on the river side closed and freed the land for other uses. Unfortunately, the terrain didn't favor tunneling, they had to cover the tracks with bridges for streets and squares of concrete platform to fill the blocks. They did it block by block but it paid of. This added the Avenue de France into the city road network and links the formerly cut from each other parts with new connectivity. They did it just after bulding the line 14 metro line (with big pillars and a big vault to sustain the charge of the future structures hence why Bibliothèque François Mitterand station is so big and added a connection to RER C by displacing the former Bvd Maséna station to BFM) I've been following the project for a while and they did a great job although, architecturaly speaking, the new buildings are sometimes quite bad but that's another thing. More recently on the other side of the City, North West in the 17th District, they did rather the same thing near Pont Cardinet rail station, added line 14 extension, build a park over it and added a new Neighbourhood along the rail tracks (not covering them this time, since it very expansive) but still added bridges to link that part to the old South side of the rail network for better connexions. The metro arrived sligthly delayed due to technical issues buteverything runs fine now. You were lucky terrain was on your side because the game doesn't come with an easy solutiuon to add constructible space over train tracks artificially.

[@drewlovelyhell4892]

I recently stumbled across the trick of burying train tracks and especially highways. They make zero noise pollution when they are underground, and you free up so much space. Not to mention that you no longer have to look at those ugly spaghetti junctions. It can be a total subterranean crows-nest , but you can't see it, so you don't have to compromise functionality for appearance. I put a big loop under my farm so that trucks can nip down a tunnel entrance and pop up right where they need to be. It's a game changer!

[@ElDimitrius]

Absolutely nothing wrong with a good episode with trains (plains) and automobiles. Really like those. Great episode Phil.

[@paulphilley4246]

Since office can front a collector, please consider mulliganing the collector by the Government District to be at the frontage road, or convert the frontage road into a one-way street and build a parallel facility to make a boulevard. That's likely what would happen anyway, restripe the local and add another two lanes. Also, you can build a connector couplet up to the freeway to deal with the new freight desire path.

[@GalaxyFalcon1]

You should replace all of the 4 lane roads that have a concrete median with the ones that have grass or trees in the middle. It has zero drawbacks (it only removes parking when its on the side, the 4 lane roads have it in the middle) and increases land value and decreases noise pollution. Also makes it pretty. Besides, that, love the episode!

[@iainjames313]

That was very satisfying to watch. Burying rail in cities absolutely makes sense, particularly in a super dense location like this. Check out Kings Cross/St Pancras Station in London to see something very similar to what you did here - also worth noting that the brownfield around the lines which was mostly industrial is now a combination of high value apartments, office, restaurants and bars (including Google's European HQ) when it used to be a bit run down (and an unofficial red light district). Might be an idea for some of the areas fronting the old rail corridors that aren't collectors now.

[@BoomerKeith1]

Love the way you completed this project! I don't know that you need to mess with a cargo station downtown unless it becomes a necessity. I think, with the changes you've made, things should run smoothly.

[@PuffyRainbowCloud]

Frankly, to get good and realistic looking railway tunnels in the game you need to slope down above ground one notch at a time before the tunnel segment. This is kinda tricky in vanilla but it can be done.

[@frenchfriar]

I think "Wilson Street" should be renamed for the railway right-of-way it took the place of, something like "Western & Pacific Boulevard" or "Verde Beach Railway Boulevard" as a nod to its history. You do need to do a thorough check to replace severed connections where you can. It was very satisfying to see all your lines separated on different platforms at the grand terminal building. It's amazing to watch you work your magic with the vanilla mechanics.

[@jason2501]

Its fine to have 2 lines coming into one track at the station because each track has a platform on the left and the right of it. So as long as the stops of the lines are on different sides i.e. platforms there won't be an issue within the station. You can see this at 32:23 with the pink and red lines (though its kind of hidden behind the district name)

[@AkLars90]

I love these updates over a large urban highway. So much better and easier to navigate. Yes some of the large collectors are pedestrian Barriers but it’s nice to see continued sensible growth in the down town area. I do think that the collector connection behind the grand central terminal might be worth the price of the eminent domain on those two blocks because of the potential real estate that can be sold of for high rise development but I’m not super invested to see that happen. I do think expanding cargo facilities in the downtown might be necessary if we don’t see the collectors doing their jobs. Instead of using asymmetric roads could a series of one way couplets facilitate the same function that a 2U 4 lane road would? I’ve used them before in some of my cities with mixed success.

[@titaniadioxide6133]

I wish some of the old rail by the station had been maintained as a museum or park. Washington has some old rails with static train cars that have been converted into restaurants and such

[@edwardmiessner6502]

Playing the vanilla game you really miss out on the smooth, gradual curves and turns that can be accomplished with the roadway network tool and you inevitably end up with quite a few horky-borky lumpies and bumpies. ☹ What someone else said using the existing right of way, I agree. You wouldn't have had the conflicts with the Metro Red Line subway that kept popping up.

[@JV459]

I gotta say, I was a little disappointed that the field opened up by the downtown grand central station wasn't turned into a small park. It was a perfect opportunity to reclaim some green space and opening it up for development feels tragically capitalist. I would have loved to see Rail Park there.

[@Khifler]

Agreed, that spot at the end of the new collector near the terminal NEEDS to become a park.

[@Myne1001]

Having a park above the tunnels would be cool. In the middle of the city, get a view of all the trains going in and out of Central,

[@chickenluverful]

The city is so big now. Wild to think we’re a couple years into this. Love the improvements. Would like to see that new collector T into the monorail collector

[@bradleyhankin]

I just tested positive for the no no virus and Verde Beach is exactly what I needed for a soothing recovery!

[@stereotype.6377]

Which of the two, now? Wish you a speedy and non-intensive recovery tho! CCP helped me as well a year ago :)

[@BrotherSkodidi]

Let CPP soothingly talk you thru the healing process, amigo...

[@TS_Chick]

One day I hope Phil realizes the pink muligan line has a muligan in the midtown area (near the temple) with both directions going to one platform

[@ROTSTarge]

Anything to get away from stroads is welcome, and connecting some of the old zones is very nice

[@engelnoy9154]

Hi city planner, I really love this series but I'm having some serious questions about this episode. Digging down the rail network was a great idea, however, by filling in the new space with large 4 lane roads in many places, you have made a new network that is almost as disruptive. if you pause around 49:50, you can really see how overbuilt the road network has become. Personally I would remove the lower 4 lane road and instead try to build out the government center grid into surrounding areas to improve connectivity. I would also connect the middle 4 lane road to the six lane road earlier since it runs parallel to the arterial for about 40% of its length. Doing this would save you a lot of space for zoning or a park. Also, I'd have a look at the train lines, they seem to be outcompeted by other forms of public transport and many seem redundant.

[@atomicbamboo2453]

As a native Bostonian, I saw the title and had a moment of panic haha

[@Vespy17]

Although I appreciate the connectivity created by burying the trains, I think you could have left more green space instead of creating new collectors, similar to how Boston did their “big dig”

[@SpiderDice]

Expand that Monorail network since you upgraded your collectors! 😎👍

[@jimgrace7797]

There's a missed opportunity for a connection from Wilson St to the central business district behind the train station. By moving the crematorium (or maybe just removing it given the proximity to another one) you could greatly improve the connections there. It might add too much stress to Wilson St, but IIRC the IT buildings don't have a ton of traffic

[@michaelfoland2007]

The City is looking great, but I would Definitely add a Freight Terminal downtown! You should add a weather radar as well :) Keep it up! I love that new Connector :)

[@grapheist612]

I think the area by the train station is a good candidate for a collector couplet. You could pull Wilson, I think it was called, through the other collector where you now only have a local road and split it in front of the train station.

[@EvanC881]

I have no idea how this man keeps his face straight every time he says "Banana District". Not even a giggle.

[@Wasabi25113]

Use the space in front of the central station for a Park for both tourists and citizens to gaze at the beauty of downtown Verde Beach

[@prebenlm]

45:37: There's an opportunity here to provide extra access to the pedestrian bridge, and some extra paths from the local street (with the building you saved) to the collectors. Or you know, just skip the extra bridge access, and only an extra path, since you said you were just maintaining that since it's always been there. I do feel there is some value in ped bridges over such intersections though.

[@ioang2742]

You came up with such a great solution! Great episode! :)

[@davetomley3145]

Loved the episode. It would have been nice to see some of the new open spaces utilised by trams and cycle ways. I realise that probably duplicates some rail, but it would look nice with lots of trees (long park)?

[@neurofiedyamato8763]

46:31, you should add a 2u walking path between the collector and frontage road so pedestrians can just switch between the two sidewalks without walking around to a junction.

[@Myne1001]

The bidirectional cargo train hub is the meta right here. I've been doing it all the time in my cities. Especially if you play modded with a transfer mod that prioritizes cargo trains for transporting goods.

[@caseya3579]

I got way behind. I'm currently watching your tutorial, just got passed the snow DLC of Tutoria. But this sounds fun. Can't wait to watch it tonight

[@1940lou]

Actually, in the Netherlands, there is a good example of highway being buried In Maastricht, they have buried the highway that went trough the city into 2 tunnels that are on top of each other. The first one is for thos who want to go into the city, so there exits at different place. The second one below, is for those who are juste going trough the city without stopping. On ground level, they've created green space to replace the highway :)

[@rgupta87]

Not too sure how I feel about all the 'digging'. A great example of how a rail system goes from underground to above ground is the Long Island Railroad (LIRR) that connects Long island to NYC. Its above ground in long island and goes under once it reaches NYC to Penn Station and Atlantic Terminal. Also, I feel that the more logical thing to do for a big project like this was to make the railways elevated instead of underground, as well as creating elevated train stations. It would increase connectivity and I would think it wouldn't be as big of a project. The borough of Queens in NYC has a lot of elevated stations that dive underground as well. It was an interesting episode!

[@marcclarence2260]

Not sure if someone else mentioned it but right now in Stuttgart there is a project to build new underground rail lines and replace the station with one that doesn't terminate

[@Eudiamonia77]

Love the buried lines. Bummed to see them turned into big roads!

[@ahoyhoy1990]

I think it's fine to isolate Banana from the intercity rail line. It's a commuter branch serving central, so is fine to be off the main line. If it were me, I'd have maybe three stations on the main, regional, line with the major suburbs served by different lines fanning from there. The intercity three would be Central, airport, and your yet-to-build tourism center on the island. You could then use your last mile options (bus, metro, bike) to fan out from the terminals to make cross city links, rather than having everything pulled to central. Imo that would minimise congestion and would allow you to heavily rationalise your lines.

[@LePondLaDuck]

Quite an appropriate video considering London’s Crossrail has just opened

[@batturbilguun2275]

I like watching CPP videos because they simulate what a real city would develop over time. But then he just buries a whole train system under an undeveloped land, single home houses.

[@ArturdeSousaRocha]

One way to alleviate the tunnel exit slope might be to make a sloped ditch and put the exit at the deeper end.

[@swing.dotted]

You are the Bob Ross of CitySkylines!

[@codegame027]

I think you've improved quite a bit with building and editing networks since Episode 1 of Verde Beach

[@akashsarkar2001-r5k]

I would love to see one of those first person transit travel in Verde Beach. Preferably a train ride

[@randallcromer66]

Awesome video and a truly incredible looking city build. 👊😲👍

[@ben0329]

I’d have loved to see the land yielded from burying the trains used for non car purposes but sometimes you’ve got to play the game mechanics. A freight terminal would still likely be needed. You might also be able to alter some train lines as I think you’ve still got a few short lines pinging back and forth. Also I think the pink line still shares a platform instead of using both at one of the stops so that might need checking

[@perrylim9728]

When it comes to when I reclaim that land from the railways, I build residential and commercial as well as offices in their place

[@simonsv9449]

I started my city by building a rail line to high standards (Very few gradients, smooth curves and stuff like that) so that trains would be able to run at high speeds on it. Then placed a ground dual island platform train station and began to develop the areas around it. This way, I could be sure that the railway line would never have to cross roads at ground-level and not demolish any buildings.

[@michaelfoland2007]

Also -- you should make a street called Mulligan Road :)

[@xSlySniipzx]

I think a motorway flyover would be really cool, although I’m not sure about the feasibility of something like that in such a built up area!

[@shavranotheferanox7809]

I feel like he should do an episode where he looks at all of his districts to see if they still line up propperly, because i feel like he has changed some districts in such a way that they wont line up with his district zone thingies

[@MaksimSpelko]

10:57 you could use UI, node controller, slope. Those tunnels can be pain in the ass 😀✌

[@adamprovencher2069]

You should build a big extension to the airport with all the dirt that was dug for this project. 😀

[@Ryan-hv2lw]

I honestly feel a little outrage that you didn’t connect that bike path at 55:01, I think Iv watched too many of your vids 😅 love the show dude, keep it up!

[@jameseddleman6944]

Id like to see a city you build but with the budget of an Arabic Prince. I seen a project about a city that would be called "the line" and it basically looked like an underground highway with the city both above and bellow. I've played some, making an underground highway did make room, and since the main road is right above, the ramps and exits are really small.

[@Leo9ine]

Just in time to listen to for bed!

[@RAI-1911]

Thanks for the entertainment as always :)

[@lordofthehunt5384]

It's a shame that lovely green strip was urbanised with the feeder road. It could have made a lovely mini park area with great cycle and pedestrian access. Maybe even something like that disused subway line in Manhatten that was converted to path & mini park. Loving the videos none the less tho!

[@kylelundgren2177]

Unexpected day off in the middle of the week and CPP video. Yup it’s gonna be a good day.

[@tranquilitychoas8847]

I thought I was the only one to put rail lines underground. I saved a major part of my city doing this.

[@isadorafonseca6920]

loved this episode! i think deviating a little from realism sometimes can make the game more fun!

[@phils.2884]

Oh boy, that reminds me of "Stuttgart 21"...

[@eligoldman9200]

Your videos always make me entertained even when life’s not going to great.

[@CityPlannerPlays]

I hope things start looking up!