The BIG FLAW In Pokémon Remakes

[@MrXaturn]

I think BDSP are bad remakes regardless, but the removal of the back button on the poketch is what pushed them over the edge of just being terrible. It's such an absurd decision that seems almost deliberately insulting to the playerbase.

[@prezmer]

RIGHT?! I'm shocked there aren't more people talking about this! IT'S A BACK BUTTON, WHY WOULD YOU EVER REMOVE IT??? Legitimately unreal!

[@Elfking94]

​@@prezmeroh that's easy, it couldn't be removed if it was never there! If memory serves the back button was only in platinum

[@prezmer]

@@Elfking94 you’re right, it was only in platinum! That’s what we mean though: if they added it in platinum, why would they just remove it again in the dp remakes? Like I get that it’s a dp remake but cmon, not adding even a tiny but very necessary quality of life improvement again has got to be, like the original commenter said, almost deliberately insulting to the playerbase

[@Elfking94]

@@prezmer because it was never added persay, at least in the sense of added to diamond and pearl. it was entirely a copy and paste job. I really feel bad for kids of next Gen who think this is fine and they can just mod things. It's not the point. This was outright lazyness on the part of their company. And you're most certainly right on that one. This was a deliberately lazy copy and paste

[@Elfking94]

@MrXaturn It's a little thing but I agree this is a major flaw

[@ShiriusuNH]

It’s not that BDSP intentionally removed features from Platinum, such as the back button on the PokeTech, it’s moreso the case that BDSP is LITERALLY using DP’s codebase. Through decomp attemps we’ve even found the code that controlled the GBA port on the DS still in the game and now there are teams trying to get that feature working again in BDSP to see what they can do with it

[@ProAxeru]

I think that's the reason they are soooo broken. DP were already broken, but BDSP are in another level, and I think it is because they copy and paste the DS code and translate it to the Switch the quickly they can

[@themanwithsauce]

When the Gen IV remakes came out, I jokingly said that each decision for the "remake" boiled down to 'Which decision is easier/cheaper to implement?". We get the fairy type because it makes it easier to use typing and move charts from newer games, but we get single use TMs again. We get a bicycle that can be ridden through grass but we lose pokemon contests and get a rhythm game somehow worse than friday night funkin instead. And I fear that's the direction the newer ones will continue to go - why spend time or money on a game when it'll sell millions and all you have to do is ask yourself "How cheap can we make this game and fans still buy it?"

[@prezmer]

I never even looked at it from that perspective but you’re totally right about it being a possibility, even if you say it jokingly. The fairy type thing for example makes total sense! And I mean, sword and shield were proven to reuse 3ds animations so finding easy ways to do things is something we know is a concern… or so it seems anyway but I can’t really imagine the most profitable franchise in the world having a technical reason for choosing to reuse animations made for a less powerful console. It’s so weird because part of me feels like a proper tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist in thinking there’s a chance this IS actually laziness and lack of care for the franchise (I mean, they develop games for THE biggest franchise so how could it be?) but at the same time it’s tough to ignore the facts.

[@Mernom]

​@@prezmerI think the real money maker from Pokémon is not the games, but the merch. As long at they keep the franchise in the public consciousness, they'll be earning hand over fist, regardless of the quality.

[@prezmer]

@@Mernom You're unfortunately right there, the majority of the income comes from merch... and as another user also pointed out, what matters is creating more creatures to turn into merch, and as you say, regardless of quality. It's really depressing to see what's been happening with the games since what? Gen 6? But especially gen 8 onwards. Ah well.

[@mups4016]

Are you saying friday night funkin is bad?

[@mophead3903]

I think that there may be a shift coming. Just kinda seeing the amount of detail they put into sv dlc and the fact we still have no news on the next games is promising. One of the biggest setbacks of the recent years of games is just the amount of time they had to work on it. SWSH came out and immediately we had the SWSH DLC, BDSP, PLA, PMD Remake, and they were starting work on SV. Yes they weren’t working on each of these at the exact same time, but all those came out within a year or two outside of SV. We just got the second DLC after a year and it shows they had time to polish it. Compare that to the SWSH DLC where we already had the PMD and BDSP in the works, and then right after the SWSH DLC was done they were onto working on PLA. Granted only time will tell if this is actually going to break the cycle but I have hope for the next games/remake since we’re likely getting a new remake next.

[@dragonlord4194]

I honestly do not mind the lack of Rayquaza's involvement in the remakes. Rayquaza got the whole afterstory with the Delta episode to itself, something I loved then and still do today. And unlike Johto Hoenn is packed with a dense story, nice features and content I prefer over being in a second region that has nothing to offer but battle against people I don't care about. The lack of the Battle Frontier sucks, yeah, but at least we got a battle facility in which you can sink your time in. The battle resort was just some fun for me. Also the secret bases got expanded, contests looked better than at any other point in the franchise, and pretty much got some of the best content in the 6th Gen. Non of the Remakes were 1 to 1 since that would just be a Remaster. But honestly HG and SS added some of the least extra content. They kept the story of the original almost one to one, just adding Crystal's side story into a few random encounters. The addition of the new safari zone and the battle frontier from platinum was nice but that was literally it. People always say having Kanto as an addition makes them the best games in the franchise, while I couldn't care less about it.

[@prezmer]

Those are very fair criticisms of Johto, as well as a fair defense of Hoenn. Honestly, I agree, what was added to ORAS was AWESOME. My issue isn't really the additions, but rather the fact that they came to replace some incredible features that had no reason for being cut. Sure the delta episode is amazing and perhaps better than Rayquaza's participation in the groudon/kyogre fight but... why not both, ya know? That's why I prefer HGSS: even though not much was added, they made an effort to bring everything from crystal and had no cut content aside from the odd egg, if I recall correctly. And while ORAS is still really solid, I really do believe it signaled the bad things to come with its resistance to add the emerald content. Here's to hoping we get remakes from now on that have all content AND a bunch of new ORAS style additions!

[@dragonlord4194]

@@prezmer I don't get my hopes up, just so I can't be disapointed. I didn't play Let's Go nor BDSP just because I didn't like the style. I just wait and see, if ILCA gets a second chance or if Game Freak go and make the remakes themselves. Doesn't really matter their, because for Game Freak, Pokémon is a side project by now. They are really done with the franchise and rather develop their own games.

[@ShadowKaiserin]

@@prezmer Why not both? Because it's a Ruby and Sapphire remake, not an Emerald one. Crystal's story is barely different from Gold and Silver's. Suicune appears in several places on the overworld, there is a single new character who shows up only a handful of times, and then a special encounter. It adds to the game, but changes nothing, and thus was simple to include while still being a remake of Gold and Silver. But Emerald makes major story changes, there's no way to include them while still keeping the games as Ruby and Sapphire remakes. Moreover, the Emerald story changes caused serious pacing issues. The gap between the number of leader encounters is huge. Groudon is awakened far too early, yet only starts causing problems conveniently after Kyogre is also awake, the atmospheric trek down to the bottom cave of origin with the earthquakes is replaced by two floors of mist and flying back and forth across the map, totally killing the tension. ORAS held true to Ruby and Sapphire while still acknowledging Emerald with the Delta Episode. We got the gen 3 equivalent of Mew being under the truck, and people whined about Rayquaza not showing up to fix things with a roar.

[@jamesbrincefield9879]

I really hope the Mystery Dungeon DX art-style gets more use. Whether it’s for an Explorers of Sky remake, another side game, or even a mainline title. It deserves far more recognition than it gets.

[@prezmer]

Agreed, I love what they did to that game in terms of visuals!

[@wintersong2266]

Well I don't think Game Freak would use the artstyle of a another studio. so it will probably be only for PMD.

[@demarcomixon]

I wouldn’t hold my breath, the video game quality that Gamefreak has been producing has been in the toilet for a minute. I’m sure they will butcher whatever future remake they shht out.

[@wintersong2266]

@@demarcomixon Mystery Dungeon isn't made by Game Freak.

[@demarcomixon]

@@wintersong2266 I cannot argue with that point but at this moment I just don’t have any faith in Pokemon remakes as a whole.

[@BoppinBunnyBops]

The way my heart broke when they released the art style for the diamond and pearl remakes 😭. How could they give us such a beautiful style with let's go only to slap us with those awful round people. They look like wibble wobbles

[@ggrarl]

Plus, at least ORAS gave all the major characters a cool makeover. Aqua and Magma were made more distinct from each other, for example. BDSP couldn't even do that, instead taking a big step backwards.

[@soranortthirteen561]

The problem with Modern Pokemon is a multifaceted issue with various factors. The increasing costs in game development is higher now. Developing on console involves more man power and time nowadays compared to how small scale the Gen 1-5 Era was. 3D models are difficult to work with compared to 2D sprites. Game development for big budget titles usually take around 3-5 years. Mainline Pokemon are now big budget console games. Pokemon as a franchise runs on a strict generation release timeline. Every 3 years a new mainline Pokemon game introduces a new generation, but this formula can only work for so long. With the cut pokedex in Gen 8 and the technical performance in Gen 9, we are starting to see the consequences of Pokemon games being rushed out for the lucrative holiday season. These games have become mandatory to fuel the other cogs in the Pokemon Franchise: the anime and the trading cards. Game Freak cuts corners on the game, which includes removing content, to meet strict deadlines. That's why the battle frontier got axed in Gen 6, the national pokedex slowly phased out in Gen 7, and the pokemon themselves in Gen 8. Them cutting corners is likely why voice acting will never be in mainline because it costs money and especially more time to hire, implement, and localize to account for a simultaneous worldwide release.

[@baddragonite]

To be honestly I would rather them literally just port Bw/B2W2 exactly as is to the switch than see then try to remake them

[@prezmer]

Interesting suggestion. The way things have been, I'm starting to think it's a better option too.

[@tlst94]

What if in an alternate timeline; 3rd versions, remakes, and DLCs never existed? While the original games already had their cool new features and improvements? While Gen 2 was a standalone game with only the Johto Region included? While every Gen came out worldwide between 1996 and 2006? And if every Gen had both a sequel and a prequel every 10 years? How well would the series have been recieved? And how'd all of you fans have liked it from your altered memories and experiences?

[@whitedragonzerureusu4480]

Me personally i would love that. To be able to experience it again with less knowledge of it that i have now. To not have such disappointing games of a franchise i've been a fan of for a long time. There are other mememories of things i wouldn't want to forget but for this scenario i would want to do it. Instead of fear i guess i would just be excited and curious about it

[@MrDannyKicks]

I don't want a gen 5 remake. If the solution is just play gen 5, then I'm just gonna pop in gen 5. I'd be a lot more excited for a gen 5 game set in a different story. BW3 or a Legends style Unova game.

[@whitedragonzerureusu4480]

I would love it if we got to discover the true dragon, the fusion of reshiram, zekrom and kyurem. It would be cool if we got it too. But that's literally the only thing i want in a remake if they do it. Just some more lore i guess and to explore the mystery. I can't play my gen 5 games because they got damaged over time... and theres so many scammers selling the old games for so much online and its hard to find the games in shops, if your even lucky that such a shop is close by. Yes could pay it on emulator but i don't have fun playing it on emulator. Idk how to explain it but playing it on console is just better and feels genuine ynow

[@alphaprime775h7]

I think with reusable TMs, Sword and Shield did it right, TMs are reusable, but you also had the TRs that were not reusable

[@whitedragonzerureusu4480]

I didn't like the TR's, had to constantly google up if i get the moves i wanted by TR or TM since some moves were exclusive to one and not in the other

[@QwixLF]

This pushback of content and quality is also apparent when you look at the timeframes of release of the DLC in Gen 8 compared to gen 9. Since they can be directly compared due to being 2 part DLCs on the Switch. Summer of the year after release for Isle of Armor, followed by winter for Crown Tundra. Came out and never cleaned up the overall presentation of the game, but did alright. Gen 9 delays it's first part into the fall, the second part right before Christmas, and the story of it just didn't end well. We're getting a "free epilogue" which reads like they didn't finish their homework before turning it in. And I have no hope they won't immediately pretend it's no longer their problem when gen 5 remakes inevitablly get announced this year (and/or another Legends game) ScVi will not be fixed, anyone who thinks a patch is coming by this point is deluded.

[@Michael-ur5qb]

Watching this i feel like Millennials are having a hard time coping that they are not the target market of Pokemon games anymore. I think it’s a mistake but I think that is a major problem. Gen Z doesn’t have the same habits nor Gen Alpha. I think Pokemon will actually lose favor in the long run. Kind of like how Gen Z has zero commitment to marvel. I also feel like the transition from handheld to console hasn’t been kind to Pokemon either. I don’t think they know the direction to take it in.

[@whitedragonzerureusu4480]

I don't like the word and term cope or coping. I find that to be a pretty immature thing to say and kids love to use that word too much. you are not wrong i am one of those people. however my reason is different. I think i've just grown up. I played pokemon since i was a kid and i've just seen pokemon get worse and worse as time goes on. I want it to be better because i like pokemon but i just didnt really have a lot of fun with the games ever since pokemon x and y. the games had less in them, more souless. the remakes/remasters didnt the stuff i wanted to experience again and enjoyed just taken out of them. My feelings are valid and i think i need to try and let go of it. It sucks to do it but ive found other things that im enjoying now. It's not just millenials btw, its young boomers too. you wrong to assume that all millenials and boomers think and feel the same way about things. I have seen many opinions and views from different people and i have had my disagreements with some of them. Unless the person tells you their age or generations you really shouldnt go around making assumptions like that because you are also lumping in people who are probably different. Just try to keep that in mind

[@aporue5893]

''coping'' or maybe people don't want laggy games with terrible graphics,or games so simple they are only made for 3 yr olds.

[@VideoGamesRus100]

Next remake: silver/gold but the cut out all gen 1 content and keep the level ramp super trash. Source: money

[@L_______]

i think remakes has gotten worse mostly cuz instead of improving the original they just desided to "keeping it faithful" when what i want is the 3rd version with the original story and some new and improved things added (along with features and pokemon added after the og) and also a (shorter) story after the main story (like the delta episode) what we get now is 1 medium size change and the og games with diffrent (but not really better) grafics

[@ghostbyun]

I'll never forget that feeling of playing shining pearl, reaching the point where I could participate in contests for the first time and being heartbroken to discover they completely butchered contests. I haven't played the game since, I realised there was no heart in those remakes whatsoever at that point. I would much rather have no remake at all if they're just going to cheaply outsource remakes like this.

[@whitedragonzerureusu4480]

Omg me too. I loved doing the contests in gen 3 and gen 4 and i dont get that instead of copying and pasting as much of it as they could the decided to put more effort into completely changing it and removing 99% of everything in it. Just imagine if we could play it exactly like on the older versions but just new graphics and we get to see our pokemon move around and stuff. I was really hopeful and excited to do the contests...

[@CrowInAHoodie]

To me it feels like there was just, not enough time spent on making the newer games Scarlet and violet are incredibly bland, the story has potential but the graphics and general background is just, hard to get past The gen 4 remakes have cut a lot and not added in anything new It feels like their not taking enough time with their newer games, I get wanting to stick to a schedule but they switched from the amazing old pixelated style, to a full on 3d style that, could add a whole lot, esp the open world concept, and their capable of doing better. sun and moon, and sword and shield were both pretty good games (sun and moon being one of my favs from the whole franchise) And the ORAS remakes also did 3d really well They can do better, but their not taking the time to do so

[@ajr_7828]

the reason as to why pokemon takes out extra content is because of the strict dead lines. They probably don"t want to risk not hitting the deadline just for an extra side quest. So again the problem falls on the company that brings these strict deadlines

[@TJBPlays]

I think it boils down to time and money. GF are under a tight schedule releasing a game or DLC pretty much every year now. The Pokemon Company are too focused on pushing out release to sell cards and other merch to make big profit. GF must also lack the financial resources from the Pokemon Company to hire new staff and try to minimise costs spent on making a new game which is just sad.

[@RodrigoLeaf15]

"Gamefreak wouldn't go outright grim with their storylines"..... *checks at Nemona, Penny/Team Star and Arven backstories*.... Are you sure about that? xD Jokes aside, what I would love for a Gen 5 "remake" is a Legends game, I think they could get more from that. Either that, or a new option: A new game on an old region. Let's make Black/White 3 instead of a remake, use Unova again but add new content, new story, it could be a golden opportunity to explore the evolution of a region (especially since BW / B2W2 were the games that introduced time passage from one game to the next)

[@gab4198]

I think ORAS was great, of course it has some missing features from emerald and battle frontier, but it did add a lot of new things, the soaring mechanic was also incredible and most important, it did bring most if not all modern features to a old region, even new megas and all, it was the most recent generation in a new console and it was what we expected. Lets go i never played, but it does look cool, brought some new things to kanto, the problem was being kanto all over again. The problem to me is really when the remakes got to sinnoh, it looked to me like they split into 2 branchs, leting another studio take care of the actual remakes and focused too much in legends arceus, which was amazing, the first time we saw they put so much into a older generation, but BDSP was just.... sad, very few enchancements from platinum or HGSS, the chibi models do work to bring that old gen nostalgia, but it just wasn't like the remakes before, it didn't put sinnoh into the perspective of sword and shield as it should, it just remade the entire thing the way it was, i would accept if it was in the XY perspective still, as sword and shield would require a lot of thinkering in areas, but no, they redid the entire DS thing, and simply seeing chibi 3d models wasn't as cool as the sprites in the original, it would be better if they just ported it to switch. I hope black and white gets a better treatment, because we just have so much more to see in unova, such a inovative gen with the highest count of new pokemon, it should be akin to sun and moon, still small areas but freedom of movement, the models should look the same as in battle and it is too much to even dream, but imagine they finnaly give the games the third version treatment and release just one game with B/W and just let you customize the experience to have scenary from the game you want most and then later release a B2/W2 remake so we can get a complete game for both the phases of unova (also a legends game showing the original dragon and the swords of justice lore would be greatly apreciated)

[@gamermanzeake]

Unlike the opinion of many, I will not buy; broken, bastardized, or blatantly lacking games. The problem is that Pokemon stopped being a passion project, and started becoming more business oriented. You have loads of fools and suckers out there who argue: "Of course they're going to make the safe decision, they have families to feed and bills to pay." Ah yes, need I pull you back to the roots of all of these beloved franchises that have fallen from grace? Taking chances, making games that had no appeal yet, nor an audience. Building something that was fundamentally what the devs would play also. Not just a display of corporate greed. If you have an issue with the way the games are, vote! Vote with your wallet. After I was burned with S/V I made a decision that Pokemon (unless recuperated into a good series again) is dead to me. Fire Emblem, Call of duty, Advance Wars, Battlefield, and so much more are franchises I loved, and now I hate. I will not be part of the problem, and if you're buying the games with knowledge of the evil going on, yet you look the other way, you are part of the problem.

[@frousteleous1285]

TMs being single use in ScaVio makes complete sense in context though: you can find them in the wild with extreme ease. And once found, you know the recipe to make as many as you want, assuming you have the ingredients. My problem with single-use TMs way back when was that you would generally get that TM *once*. By making TMs highly accessible, it became its own mechanic again.

[@ashtenbahr646]

oras would have been the best pokemon games if there was a battle frontier

[@prezmer]

Preach, fully agreed

[@ashtenbahr646]

@@prezmer 💪💪💪

[@joopvanhedel1372]

Pokemon omega ruby and alpha is good remake not great like pokemon heartgold and soulsilver but still good let's go pi & ee are 5/10 but pokemon diamond and pearl remakes are terrible I agree 100%

[@prezmer]

Yeah, they get worse with each release since HGSS

[@MontyMoleLoreMaster]

At least it isn’t as bad as Mario having 3/4 games they are releasing this year being mediocre remakes.

[@KaKaPeu]

Honestly if the new games looked like LGP/E id be happy

[@commanderlouie8921]

Pokemon has sucked for years.

[@BansheeNT-D]

Heartgold and Soulsilver are fantastic, but sad they are made in the ugly Gen 4 engine :(

[@Imposter1230]

All remakes should be better than the original like yeah keep the same shit but add new things in the main game from the first gym to the 8th gym have something new to do before the Pokémon league and the post game have more to do gen 4 really didn’t have new shit like gen 1 through 3 had

[@davifelizardo4187]

10:21 I think this ">" should be a "

[@Nagatem]

I never bothered with the battle frontier so it is not a pile of horse shit

[@CodyTheBlackChickenSubscribe]

Pokemon OrAs was a fine remake. What isn't fine is BSDP Also bro pronounce the Sevvi Islands right. It ain't "seedy islands" it's Sevvi. Use the V sound not the D sound.

[@cyndaquil8331]

Gold and Silver also didn't have the Battle Frontier, and Crystal only had the Tower. This didn't stop HGSS from introducing Battle Frontier 2.0.

[@prezmer]

Good point!

[@ShoukerX]

In general HGSS are obviously remakes of Crystal, even the Suicune event is the same

[@ShadowKaiserin]

Except that the only reason it was in HGSS was because it was already on the platinum ROM and they didn't have to make it from scratch. They literally copy-pasted it from Platinum there was no extra effort put into it. In order to have it in ORAS they would have had to recreate Emerald's Battle Frontier from scratch, which they were never going to do when they already had a fully created and tested battle facility in the Maison. The two remakes has the same amount of effort put into them, and anyone who says differently has zero understanding of how these things work.

[@MultiDarkII]

@@ShadowKaiserin keep yappin lil ngiga

[@TheAzulmagia]

Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee didn't just cut the Sevii Islands. There were no abilities, no evolutions for some Pokémon like Golbat, nothing past the original 151 (aside from Alolan Forms), and so on. This is where I think the idea of "faithful remakes" really started to kick in and BDSP were just a further symptom of that.

[@prezmer]

You're absolutely right. I didn't mention any of that because while it was faithful, its entire purpose was also fundamentally different from the mainline games with how catching and grinding worked. So they could excuse it as it just serving a different, more simplified purpose. BDSP though there's absolutely no excuse. But personally, I agree with you that we can say this issue really started with let's go.

[@Shnarfbird]

They were like FRLG in that one respect -You couldn't evolve into Steelix, Bellossom, or Crobat until unlocking the national dex... for some reason.

[@DBoy38]

And Espeon and Umbreon only obtainable by trading with Ruby/Sapphire due to Fire Red/Leaf Green lacking an internal clock

[@TheGloryXros]

FACTS!!! I TOLD PEOPLE the Let's Go games were a terrible move, but NOOOOOOO, NOBODY LISTENED TO ME.....

[@DecidiousGreens]

lets go wasn't a remake, it was a reboot for people that played pokemon go to move on to the main franchise, it's called let's *go* for a reason the no abilities sucks but the game is obviously designed to be a simple starter game for the pokemon franchise

[@RoseSupreme]

Imo, ORAS was fantastic - only things I would improve on it is raising the difficulty and having Gym Leader rematches, because those were gone for some reason. The way it reimagined the story and world in certain areas like acknowledging post-Gen 3 Pokémon and regions *BEFORE* the Elite Four is something I wish future remakes would do. Don't treat the world like the Pokémon and regions that were made after them don't exist.

[@prezmer]

I agree, ORAS was great! All I'm saying is that, for all it did good, we started to see the trend of cutting content from previously established definitive versions (by cutting the battle frontier out, mainly, alongside the combined plotline emerald had with rayquaza stopping groudon and kyogre). And this trend only got worse with LGPE and ESPECIALLY BDSP. Again, it doesn't speak to the quality of the games, it's just... the main issue I see that keeps getting worse, and in BDSP's case, it absolutely harms the game beyond what any improvement could have saved. But I agree, the way ORAS reimagined the world and gave us many new things to play around with was fantastic! I just wish all of that didn't come at the cost of the battle frontier, especially. Gym leader rematches would also have been fantastic! My ideal remake of any game would do all of what you said, such as acknowledging the newer improvements and pokémon, adding them to the game, etc, AND not remove anything that people actually liked from previous iterations. But we seem to be getting farther and farther away from that. BDSP got no major improvements (ORAS level improvements) AND removed a ton of stuff, even the Pokétch back button. But here's to hoping gen 5 remakes get us back on a good track!

[@RoseSupreme]

@@prezmer I'm one of the few who doesn't care about Battle Frontier to be honest. I'm not into the Battle Facility stuff where every Pokémon's evenly levelled and have competitive items. I'm a filthy casual after all.

[@KertaDrake]

Personally, I love the inclusion of unexpected Deoxys in an actual storyline! For once they bothered to make something available properly without taking the lazy route and built a story about it!

[@Sacred_Sword]

Well about that improvements part. The Emerald content. What keeps them from being amazing or even perfect remakes was the absence of it. No excuse not to have it in.

[@RoseSupreme]

@@Sacred_Sword What do you mean? Other than the lack of the Battle Frontier and Gym Leader rematches (which that bit I agree is a bummer they left out), there's practically a lack of absence in Emerald content. You can't catch the opposite box Legendary for obvious reasons, and the postgame story is inspired by Emerald's - you even battle Wallace with his Emerald Champion team to further acknowledge Emerald's existence in some form.

[@elbowjuiceVODs]

Credit to Werster for explaining it in a video, but while the pokemon games "break sales records" it's still on a downward trajectory compared to other Nintendo franchises. The best selling Mario game ever is MK8:Deluxe on switch, for Zelda it's Breath of the Wild, Splatoon 3 for that series, Kirby and the Forgotten Land, Pikmin 4, etc. But for Pokemon, Red and Blue are still the best selling. It's the only main Nintendo series that hasn't hit peak sales on switch. That's not a good sign considering how massive the Switch player base is. They're definitely leaning more into merch than games now, and the horrible game quality isn't bringing in new players.

[@prezmer]

Very interesting perspective! Thank you!

[@doughboywhine]

Honestly it would be very hard to beat the original pokemania sales, though. Granted, releasing a new soulless game a year isn't doing them any favors, but trying to beat pokemania would be like among us trying to gain relevancy again. Also game sales have still been up since gen 5

[@sarcasm-aplenty]

I think TMs could be single use if there was a shop where you could buy all the TMs you needed not systematically target pokemon for their materials that just adds extra hours to the gameplay

[@whitedragonzerureusu4480]

@@rougepyro2432 How many pokemon have we skinned in outbreaks? yeah its actually pretty disturbing if you think about it. I like the mechanic but the need to find another thats less... disturbing. You can turn of your brain and just not think about it but you can't ignore it either. I have an idea, what if we got some materials from the raids? could just be crystal shards like purple shards to make a poison move tm

[@tsyosaghi]

@@whitedragonzerureusu4480seriously, I never understood why every pokemon had to have specific materials attached to them, just make general type materials like… “ venom” “ grass”, etc.

[@thelegendofxander]

Man, I've been playing Pokemon since Red/Blue back in '98. I have played every mainline game since, except I didn't even play Sw/Sh. I had no draw to it in the slightest. It looked horrible and the Nat Dex cut convinced me. I dove back into the main series with Sc/Vi and I thought it was going to be like Legends Arceus, which was incredible. Aaaaand it was incredibly disappointing. Having the Legends series keeps me interested in Pokemon, but the quality of the games has taken a nosedive, particularly on the Switch. Schedules can be kept if you expand to meet them instead of cutting quality. Game Freak are notorious for being terrified of expanding since they don't know how to manage a larger studio, and that is the worst excuse I've ever heard for a studio of their... well, not calibre, but at least wealth.

[@prezmer]

I wasn't too drawn into sw/sh either, but that was miles better than what we got with s/v. And I really didn't find sw/sh good. The DLCs there were miles better than the main story though so I'm hoping that SV will get the same treatment... ugh

[@whitedragonzerureusu4480]

@@prezmer There are still people who think the games look really good and defend them and can't handle criticism. So it's nice that your bringing this up to spread awareness and have a place for people like us to talk in without being bombarded by white knights

[@Lukaz2009]

The ultimate issue is TPCI. Game Freak ultimately just makes the games while TPCI makes the deadlines. And really it is a great shield for TCPI to hide behind. They make all the important calls, the budget and the deadline, and Game Freak takes all the heat off them when the playerbase isn't happy with the final product. While Pokemon is the largest media franchise in the world, the games make up a surprisingly small chunk of it. Despite the games being the primary avenue of new species and variants to come into existence for TPCI to create merchandise of. So they ultimately do not care about the quality of the video games. They just want more species to make merchandise of. And since merchandise makes up the largest portion of their profits, TPCI demands quick turn-arounds for development time so they can create more merchandise. So I don't begrudge Game Freak. Are they a part of the problem? A bit given their shaky track record at times even when not under immense crunch. But TCPI are the true culprits of the franchise's downfall, wanting quantity over quality. I can pretty much guarantee you that Scarlet and Violet, as well as Sword and Shield, had incredibly rushed development cycles. Especially Sword and Shield, given that the team was most likely split in half between making them and Let's GO. Scarlet and Violet was also probably split between themselves and Legends: Arceus, which acted as a glorified tech demo. (Legends was still really good overall, though.) I have no clue what happened with BDSP, but I wouldn't be surprised if ILCA was given a year and a half at most to develop them. As an enfranchised player (Got in on the ground floor with Red/Blue), it does pain me to see that one of my favorite franchises is hurting as much as it is. But I'm not blind to where the fault truly lies. And the fault lies with TPCI and the drive of good, old capitalistic greed.

[@prezmer]

Thank you for the comment! I did gloss over the fact that merchandise makes up most of the revenue in Pokémon, so thanks for pointing that out. And while it does help cut gamefreak some slack, I’m not entirely certain they aren’t a big part of the problem still (would love to hear your thoughts on what I’m about to type as you seem pretty knowledgeable on the subject). As you said they do have a pretty shaky track record with their most recent example of a flop being little town hero. But my main issue is that Masuda has been quoted as saying that Pokémon is owned by 3 companies: Nintendo, Creatures Inc and… Gamefreak. Pokémon Company in the meanwhile was created by these 3 to ensure the success of the franchise after it took off in the early days, but doesn’t actually have ownership over it (though it might as well I guess, considering it WAS created by the folks behind the franchise). I guess it’s possible Gamefreak is always outvoted by the other 2 shareholders when deciding on the yearly release cycle but somehow I doubt they’re also unaffected by greed. And that’s also not to mention the baffling gameplay decisions that they often take, though we can’t know for sure how much those are affected by the rushed development and how much are just gamefreak not knowing what people want.

[@Shonen_Shadow]

Nintendo is the majority shareholder of TPCI owning more than 60% of the company so I think they are the majority to blame for the time constraints and lowered quality @@prezmer

[@prezmer]

@@Shonen_Shadow Ahh there we go! I had no idea on the actual numbers, thanks!

[@NatetheNintendofan]

​@@Shonen_Shadowdon't blame the whole company you're dragging in the employees and everyone else and I don't like that the employees are hard-working it's the higher-ups demanding them to get it through a deadline which makes the game not as good

[@Shonen_Shadow]

Yeah I agree I don't blame the workers at all it's the higher ups at Nintendo that apply strict deadlines and give game freak a smaller budget in order to use them to make a lot of money@@NatetheNintendofan

[@YoGibran]

It's not speculation, the games have to line up with other Pokemon merchandise(Toys, TCG etc.). Gamefreak themselves have pointed out the yearly cycle is a problem. Now are they going to actually do something about it? I doubt it lmao

[@prezmer]

Yeah, probably not unfortunately. Not while the franchise keeps printing money which let’s be honest, will never really stop. Ah well, at least, like I said, the core gameplay is and has potential to always be fun…

[@YoGibran]

@@prezmer Yeah, quality video btw.

[@soranortthirteen561]

​@@prezmerThe core remains good, but Game Freak, Nintendo, and The Pokemon Company continuing to rush games out will hurt their bottom line eventually

[@Chanchan19494]

The only thing missing from ORAS was the battle frontier which I (and many others in my opinion except those who just like to complain) didn’t care about. The rayquaza lore wasn’t cut, it was expanded upon. ORAS would be the best remake ever if HGSS didn’t go so damn hard with all of the content and charm it brought to the table.

[@isegard2957]

I have never forgive them for cut off safari park in let's go pikachu and eevee. I have such fond memories of that place in the past

[@RooftopRose079]

The lack of the Battle Frontier and no epic Rayquaza scene weren't ORAS's only failings. Emerald went out of its way to introduce new characters, rebalance levels/items/abilities, add on to the story, and update gym teams, but the remakes threw it all away to give us a story about a whiny, spoiled teenager with a savior complex stapled on to Ruby and Sapphire. Luckily they were able to hide it all by dangling Mega-Evolution in front of everyone's faces like a set of shiny keys with infants. Honestly, I don't think HGSS is completely innocent of this abandon-the improvements practice either. Pokemon Crystal gave us our first female playable character, expanded the types of Pokemon you could capture in Johto, and fixed a lot of the leveling disparity with in-game opponents. HGSS stepped back on all of that to just copy Gold and Silver. I still remember there being no shortage of Pokemon fans justifying it all when I complained about those things in HGSS and ORAS. It wasn't until BDSP that it started bothering the majority of the fanbase, so it finally got noticed. When I complained about the lack of Crystal and Emerald features in the remakes fans were immediately waving it off with: "It's a Gold/Silver, Ruby/Sapphire Remake, not a Crystal or Emerald Remake. LOL. Why are you so upset? Go cry about it!" It was utterly hilarious later how those same people were so absolutely offended when BDSP came out without Platinum features. I took pleasure in reminding them: "It's a Diamond/Pearl remake, not a Platinum Remake. LOL. Why are you so upset? Go cry about it!" I love Pokemon, but this Fandom is full of hypocrites. You either call out all the remakes for lacking the third game's improved features or you shut up when your favorite gets the inevitable same treatment of multiple cut features. The only difference with BDSP is that the Gen 4 games were a large chunk of the fandom's first game in the series so they had the loudest voices when their favorite didn't the gold star treatment. Frankly, I take pleasure in the fact that they got a taste of what they were dishing out to older fans. I say keep it up! Remake Gen 5 from the original Black and White with none of its sequel features and dumb down the story! Remake Gen 6 by cutting out Mega-Evolution entirely and removing customization! Fans will buy it anyway and still defend the stripped-down remakes. The reality is that these problems with the remakes were always there, they've just gotten fewer new features to hide those empty spaces behind with each new remake.

[@TFSthegreat]

Johto remakes: have the Sinnoh Battle Frontier Sinnoh remakes: do not have the Sinnoh Battle Frontier

[@GAMEBO1z]

my main gripe with ORAS was them not using the gym leaders Emerald teams and having rematches for them like the teams from Emerald were way better and added more of a challenge it just doesn’t make sense to me why they wouldn’t just use the better teams, i do miss the battle factory too i loved it as a kid but they don’t seem to think it’s necessary now cause they didn’t have it in BDSP either

[@DamianRavenhold]

I still remember playing through Alpha Sapphire back in 2014, I was extremely happy with my play through. The changes they did elevated the story immensely….then I got access to the battle maison. My heart shattered seeing the battle tower model and no battle frontier. It has soured my mood on the series ever since, with the exception of legends arceus

[@whitedragonzerureusu4480]

That was the one thing i really wanted to experience again after beating the champion... and their excuse is because kids dont have that attention span... they still choose to ignore the players who grew up with the series and have hubris to think they can make the pokemon franchise immortal... nothing lasts forever thats just the reailty of things

[@BluePhoenix_]

If the remake is not the best Version of the game, it is a failure. No matter how good it is, if it doesn't exceed any of the previous versions, why even bother? In my opinion, only FR/LG and HG/SS are good remakes. OR/AS are just fine and BD/SP are worse than the original D/P, if you don't install the day 1 patch, and are pretty much just as bad as D/P with it.

[@prezmer]

Yeah, precisely on why remake a game if it’s not the definitive way to play it. There are exceptions throughout the gaming world sure, but usually that’s my view on it as well. I’ve seen some argue that it’s needed to bring beloved games to modern platforms (or in Pokémon’s case, newer generations), but… rereleases and remasters exist for that reason, no? That’s why I don’t really get it when people are excited about a 1 to 1 remake (as some were for BDSP). No game is perfect, so if you’re going to remake any, please take the opportunity to fix some of the flaws! But I gotta say having remakes bring BACK flaws that were already fixed for the sake of faithfulness shocked me. Pokémon innovating on one field at least! (Can you tell I’m still salty about the lack of a back button in the BDSP pokétch?)

[@Shonen_Shadow]

I agree with you on the fact that the remake needs to be the best version of the game for it to be good but I disagree with the notion that ORAS is just ok I think with the added content to it it is far better than the original Ruby and Sapphire and still better than Emerald even without the battle frontier

[@Borchert97]

In my opinion, the only hope that can save remakes is if they continue to remake the third versions similar to what HGSS did and what LGPE tried to do. HGSS included various, although not all, Crystal elements, such as an in-game Celebi event, the Battle Frontier (replacing Crystal's Battle Tower), the Suicune side story, etc. so it was basically a Crystal remake painted as a Gold/Silver remake, which is what everyone expected from BDSP and is why those games are seen as being the worst remakes yet. ORAS can catch SOME criticism for doing the same but they still included several things you'd expect to see in an Emerald remake such as the Delta Episode, seeing Steven pass the torch to Wallace, etc. My only gripe with ORAS is really the lack of the Battle Frontier, other than that the game does everything I'd expect a Ruby/Sapphire with Emerald touches to do. LGPE is the literal remake of a third version, Yellow, except we didn't inherit all the modern mechanics we expect to by now, such as Abilities and Held Items, but I'm going to assume that was a one-time exception to simplify things for the Go crowd, training Pokemon with IVs and EVs also didn't work the same because they had the candy thing to work around as well, but the game was gorgeous, the gameplay was fun, it was basically a very early and primitive version of the Legends: Arceus catching mechanics, which should totally come back and be a permanent staple of the series. BDSP is just a downright atrocious game though, by far the worst remakes yet which is a shame because they did a lot right too, like giving the Pokemon League super strong teams, letting you get a glimpse of the Distortion World with the Shadow Giratina event, and so on, but the game is just hideous in the overworld in my opinion, the controls are clunky and certain tight areas of the game are a pain to navigate because of the clunky controls pushing you off ledges, the games are super buggy and once again, the lack of expected features was a turnoff. A lot of people expected Megas to come back for BDSP since we know other regions have Megas, Cynthia and Colress for example use Megas in the Alola games, and they stuck around when they made LGPE, so people at the very least expected remakes of older games to continue the trend of including Megas, so many were disappointed that they weren't included, at least in the postgame or something as a minor mechanic, like in the Alola games or in LGPE. Now Legends: Arceus on the other hand is much closer to being "the Platinum remake" than BDSP could ever hope to be. Yes it's not the same story or same region and characters etc. but the game itself is so much higher quality than BDSP, it feels good to play, the UI and controls don't feel clunky, everything feels super fluid and intuitive, in fact I think SV is mechanically a step backwards from LA, that's how much I love LA's mechanics. If we could have more games on that engine that'd be great. Would love to see a Crystal remake but in the style of LA, refined of course.

[@legobeylov7470]

TECHNICALLY Hisui is sinnoh but in past

[@DecidiousGreens]

why would you think that bdsp would have megas, it's not a trend, literally gen 6/7 allow megas, gen 8 doesn't so it would be dumb to think the games would include them, I was mad they lacked dynamax

[@Borchert97]

@@DecidiousGreens because ORAS and LGPE both had Megas. Even despite LGPE being pretty faithful to Gen 1 (no EVs, held items, abilities), they STILL included Megas. Additionally, we’ve seen characters like Cynthia use Mega Evolution in other games, so clearly Mega Evolution exists in Sinnoh. Each generation can have their core mechanic, but remakes should include Mega Evolution since it is a series mainstay mechanic.

[@DecidiousGreens]

@@Borchert97 did you read my comment? Gen 6 and gen 7 allow megas(oras is gen 6, lgpe is gen 7) alao mega evolution isn't native to sinnoh besides in the mega timeline from gen 7

[@jghbkjniphobihgjhbiuohip]

It really just doesn't make sense why they didn't do the definitive changes with Emerald and Platinum with OR/AS and BD/SP. I understand if they still want to doo dual versions, that's fine. But why not find a way to include some of the clearly better changes made in the 3rd versions instead of just copy pasting the OGs

[@prezmer]

Yeah, precisely! They already proved they can do two versions and still have elements of the third perfectly with HGSS, so it’s really disheartening to see them ditch every third version since then.

[@Shnarfbird]

I feel as if the 'gen 5 has no third version so they can't cut much content from it, right?' is a bit of copium. Because while being sequels with different stories, there are plenty of minor features from BW2 that could easily be incorporated into the original story without much disruption - such as the mutually exclusive Yancy and Curtis characters.

[@Cheftimusprime]

"Gen 5 doesn't have a 3rd version" *the 2 extra full games that were part of Gen 5 giving bombastic side eye*

[@prezmer]

BW2 was a collective delusion!!! (for real though my point is that those are sequels, not a third version that rehashes the story)

[@chaosfantasy0064]

Pokémon is a successful business franchise, I’d give them that. But that’s the problem…they’re TOO successful.

[@prezmer]

Yup... when you make tons of money no matter the state of the product, this is what ends up happening

[@chaosfantasy0064]

@@prezmer It’s sad. Pokémon has tons of concepts I want to enjoy. But, I’m quite fed up with the director’s trashy decision makings. That is why I would lean on modded games, such as Pokémon Luminescent, a Pokémon BDSP mod being made by Lewtwo and others.

[@ThetaWindfall]

In regards to the final question - I think this is a symptom of a general trend of Gamefreak failing to give their teams enough time to make a good game. This yearly content cycle, plus the lean towards a more open world game means we are getting less time for a quality game to be made.

[@ZoloFren]

The sevii islands are awesome...

[@prezmer]

YES! THANK YOU! I got so many people telling me that the games post FRLG lost nothing by not recreating them ): broke my heart

[@ZoloFren]

@@prezmer yeah I find them very comfy honestly...

[@TheSpectralForce]

I'm extremely disappointed with the state of Pokemon games. After the first Sword&Shield trailer it was clear that Gamefreak was in over their heads jumping to home consoles. I decided to speak with my wallet and sit out Gen 8. I sat out on Legends despite it's decent reviews. I sat out the god awful Gen 4 remakes. I sat out Let's Go. I finally came back for gen 9 and was met with some of the most fun, and most technical issues of any Pokemon game. Choppy framerate, ugly visuals and missing features. I enjoyed the hell out of the game but it almost feels unfair that I sat out for years, spoke with my wallet, and came back to see that so little has improved.

[@prezmer]

Yup... It's shocking how bad the games are, technically speaking. In a system that can run xenoblade games well, which are the other big open world RPGs we have, there's really no excuse. Perhaps we'll see an improvement in gen 10...

[@doughboywhine]

The quote from Masuda at 11:24 is really funny to me, because he says that the core elements like gyms, elite 4, and champions are not going to change when in the VERY NEXT GAME they replaced gyms with the "trials"

[@fireclaim8566]

Most likely they'll stick closely to the original story and experience of BW. That means no PWT, or any of the other new cool features added in the sequels. So black and white has a VERY good chance of being stripped of decent additions introduced in the subsequent release of 2

[@broderickfoster2107]

I mean I would assume we would get a remake of B/W and then an easy cash sequel the next year with a B/W 2 including their changes. I wouldnt mind not having PWT or pokestar studios because it wouldn’t even make sense in B/W assuming we get a remake of 2 as well which I don’t see them not remaking as it would be an easy cash grab after remaking Gen 5

[@unknownuser494]

Honestly bdsp also shows us the problems with og d/p because i always found d/p to be a downgrade compared to gen 3 games. (Also platinum is great though). Also i wish hgss have vs seeker to make level curve bearable and most of johto mons aren't available in johto region.

[@prezmer]

That's a good point, actually! The problems in the remakes that aren't derived from their inability to incorporate platinum stuff in the games are absolutely issues that also were in the originals. Never stopped to think about that, thanks!

[@chrysanthosvice4867]

The Zinnia defense of alternate dimensions is good and all, but it's so weird people use it to justify less content? Cause if I remember rightly Zinnia's specific example of alternate dimensions is to diagetically explain why ORAS Hoenn has megas and RSE Hoenn doesn't (and also to stop ORAS Steven from nuking RSE Hoenn with a meteor, but my point is the mega evolution bits). Anyways the whole "alternate dimensions don't have all this extra content that others do!" is, I suppose, a nice little explanation for some things (in this dimension, Super Contests are notably worse than the mainline dimension somehow), but like. You cannot tell me that no one has invented a down button on a watch in multiple timelines. Anyways here's hoping everyone's coveted gen 5 remakes don't try and put the Battle Maison where the PWT should be (lol) (no for real tho the Battle Maison in hoenn was like. what was that???)

[@prezmer]

"You cannot tell me that no one has invented a down button on a watch in multiple timelines." made me giggle like an idiot, thanks for that. Yeah, it's a really, really weird defense for cutting content in the game. Like, if there is a multiverse, it's still a bad choice to give us a game in some of the worst worlds of the bunch?! I don't have much hope for the gen 5 remakes but there is some. Can not WAIT to be disappointed yet again!

[@malakkennedy6949]

I don't quite remember specifics, but I remember hearing that BDSP was outsourced to a different company altogether while gamefreak focused on Legends.

[@prezmer]

Yeah! The company is called ILCA. The theory goes that Gamefreak gave them development (this is a fact), but that they were very strict on what ILCA could and couldn't do. They basically only allowed minute changes from DP (this is the theory). Regardless, the end result was... not the best.

[@malakkennedy6949]

@prezmer I love how I'm just now getting a notification that I'm you replied. XD Sad how remakes are never of the games "definitive" version so we may never see a proper return to the distortion world or a battle frontier.

[@zenvariety9383]

​@@malakkennedy6949 Unless if it's a Let's go remake.

[@thecaffee1065]

At 19:42. There are some videos where people translate interviews of people that have worked at GAME FREAK. The gist of it is, the higher-ups don’t care anymore and “it will sell anyways”. This broke the camels back for me. Not buying another main series game or remake unless if things turn around.

[@whitedragonzerureusu4480]

Oh damn. So far ive only seen white knights say that crap when someone criticizes their games in any way and cant think objectively. I have already decided to try my best to try and not buy anymore pokemon main line games anymore. i decided that before i saw your comment. i might buy side games if they are decent... not gonna get my hopes up though. its a real shame that they've fallen like that. I wonder how the deceased people who worked on pokemon before they died and got replaced would feel about that. edited fixed a mistake

[@thecaffee1065]

@@whitedragonzerureusu4480 It is sad. Pokémon was mine as well as many others childhood. I still play but mainly the older stuff. The saddest thing was that Gen 9 and Legends made it look like things were changing. Gen 9's release was truly deplorable. If it wasn't for the bugs/performance issues, it would have been a turning point. Would have also loved to see a battle tower like setup similar to either Emerald or Platinum too but beggars can't be choosers when it's a yearly release. Good thing out of this is that most side games are not GAMEFREAK.

[@EWOODJ]

I loved the Sevii islands. I grew up playing Gen 1, so playing that with a decent expansion was great in my book. I hated that they weren’t in HGSS. Despite that, HGSS is tied with B2W2 as my favorite Pokémon games of all time.

[@jarrickhillery8664]

On the TMs, I like how Scarlet & Violet handled them. I don’t mind TMs being single-use as long as there is a consistent way to get multiple.

[@whitedragonzerureusu4480]

The outbreaks was great for that very reason, although skinning and taking pokemon body parts to make them is... pretty dark if you think about it

[@tephwilliams]

The target audience of the newer remakes isn’t fan’s who played the originals, it’s newer fans who didn’t. The first few remakes had to be enjoyable for people who’d played the originals because part of their purpose was to fill in the Pokédex, but that’s not an issue anymore. I never had a ds and missed gens 4 and 5 when they first came out. I went back to play them after playing gen 6 and found it super hard to enjoy them as the annoyance of grinding overshadowed everything else, and as a result I hardly remember playing those games. I loved BDSP because I was able to experience it for the game it was, not the game I’d hoped it would’ve been.

[@taylorsheridan4358]

This is a good video to represent gaming industry as a whole. Literally remaking games to sell nostalgia and manipulate younger players who hear about glory years. Then release a game with less content. Or even worse remake a game into multiple purchases over multiple consoles (ff7)

[@GAMEBO1z]

i love HGSS but my main issue with it is the missed opportunity to update the gym leader teams to have more johto pokemon and also make more johto pokemon accessible during the main story, like why cant i only get a lot of them in post game Kanto and Mt Silver?

[@11dong]

I honestly think Heart gold and soul silver are the best pokemon games of all time. Im not an OG pokemon player by any means my first game was ultra moon which got me very invested. I played every game since (other than Platnium, Black and white and BW2 and SV) some of the newer games left a btter taste in my mouth escpecially after playing emerald. Replaying Ultra moon I found the dialoge to be boring. I hacked my 3ds to play Heart gold and So far (20 hours in and 5th gym badge in 4 days lol) I am having lots of fun. Its not tedious to read endless dialoge the world is really cool although I played cristal so IK what im doing. Encountering entei randomly in the wild was really unexpected aswell.

[@prezmer]

Reading your comment has gotten me feeling all kinds of warm. It's awesome seeing a new person discover this great series. You NEED to get around to playing platinum, B/W and B/W2!!! Those are legitimately some of the best games in the series (not as good as HGSS though). BW 1 and 2 especially have the series' best storylines, according to lots of people. BW 1 has the caveat of only having gen 5 mons for the main game but oh well, still a nice experience. As for the Entei... it never even occurred to me that newer players would be surprised by that! I completely forgot that gamefreak hasn't done roaming legendaries in ages! Thanks for the smile you brought me, I'm glad you're having a good time. And if you want a tip, don't sleep on the spinoffs (if you haven't played them - if you have, ignore this bit... I know you said you played every game but lots of people mean mainline games with that sentence, so saying this just in case)! My favorites are Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Sky ( Nintendo DS ), Pokémon Ranger Shadows of Almia (Nintendo DS - but all 3 are great), Pokémon Snap (the old and the new). The Rumble games are decent too. All of these are incredibly different to what you've grown to like, so you may not like them all (or any) but I genuinely like them more than lots of mainline titles. Highly recommended!

[@11dong]

Is platinum worth playing though if I played pearl ds and BriliantDiamond? Also I am definetly planning on playing gen 5 becuase I love how the sprites move. Thanks for the spin off tip. I havne not thought about playing any of those games. Mystery dungeons does look neat though defo will look into spin offs@@prezmer

[@prezmer]

@@11dong Platinum is indeed worth playing if you enjoyed gen 4, but maybe play the other games first as a bit of a palette cleanser. The gym types, general beats etc are mostly the same, after all, but the story in platinum is way better, gym/league teams are all remade, there's a battle frontier, you can own a house, etc. Think of it as the leap between ruby/sapphire and emerald - DP to Platinum is the same leap!

[@fembuss9528]

Convinced gamefreak defenders aren’t actual people at this point

[@Ace-002]

“Keep getting worse” ORAS wasn’t bad and I think they went about it nicely. They gave you elements of the original game with a rayquaza story at the end (yes more could’ve been done but for a 3Ds game it was fine). BDSP was the only bad “remake” it was more of a remaster of anything. The very least they could’ve done was give us some platinum content at the end but nope

[@HergaDergaDonkeyKong]

Black 2 was the first game I owned instead of borrowing, and I’m dreading the day when we find out the Gen 5 remakes won’t acknowledge B2W2. It’s just going to be lost content forever, and the games will continue to cost $200 online

[@whitedragonzerureusu4480]

Its well over 200$ for me for shops online. 200$ i would consider cheap compared to what i've seen most of the time... However the game could very easily be a fake so you have to do lots of research to see if its real or not and the fakes are being made very cleverly these days. You could always play the game on an emulator on your pc but it doesnt beat playing it in your hands on the console

[@HergaDergaDonkeyKong]

Fingers crossed it will drop in value when Pokemon Bank closes and neither legit nor fake can transfer to other gens (it won't)

[@EdenGardee]

Hot take, Lets go Eevee and pikachu are my favorite art style in the whole pokemon series. I wish every game was remade into that art style, and games since then we also in that style. obviously the Let go catching mechanic is awful, but the art is just perfect for me.

[@ludicrouslunatic]

BDSP were the first and only Pokémon games I actively disliked. I fell off of Pokémon temporarily back when the original Diamond and Pearl came out so I held no nostalgia for them. I played Diamond years later (I got back into Pokémon around the time Black 2 and White 2 were released) but didn't really care for it. I thought BDSP would be Sinnoh's chance to grow on me but tbh it only made me dislike those games more. It was just... so unfun. I do own Platinum now and I agree its the overall better Sinnoh experience alongside Legends Arceus. Tbh the only redeeming quality I had with BDSP was the fact I could hunt down a legitimate shiny Arceus, which I promptly transferred out and never touched Brilliant Diamond again lmao. I do hold a lot more fondness for Unova so I'm waiting with baited breath on how the inevitable remakes turn out. Despite the issues with performance i do genuinely enjoy Scarlet and Violet so I'm cautiously optimistic about going back to Unova. Indigo Disk was a great little love letter to the region!

[@prezmer]

Yeah, we'll see what happens with the Unova remakes. Nowadays it's often seen as the last great region before things started going downhill so I really hope they do it justice. I guess we'll find out soon enough - they should announce their releases for 2024 in the first half of the year, and unova remakes will likely be there!

[@ludicrouslunatic]

@@prezmer I'm pretty excited for what's in store in 2024! How I see it, worst case scenario Unova gets the BDSP treatment. And tbh even if that happens the original Black and White are very solid games and a faithful remaster wouldn't be so terrible. We can hope for something better though!

[@mairain6443]

I Disagree with your take on ORAS. It's a parallel timeline of R/S, not emerald, it's a retelling of those games. There were 3 parallel time lines, R/S/E, the remakes focused on 2 of them. If the game was Delta Emerald then that's different, but it wasn't. The rayquaza cut scene stopping the box legends wouldn't make sense in a R/S remake, as only one is revived not both, rayquaza only comes out to stop Groundon and Kyogre fighting, not just if one is moving around. Adding onto this, is how rayquaza actually got its own storyline which ties into the main story and the gimmick of the Gen. The Battle Tower isn't missing but is just the battle maison, which is basically the same thing, just a smaller building. If you wanted the Battle frontier, then i understand your disappointment but once again it's a retelling of R/S not Emerald.

[@prezmer]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts! I fully understand that the reason why none of the things I mentioned are in the game is because they're retellings of R/S. What I don't understand is why they chose to retell the inferior, at least in my opinion, versions of the region. Emerald had so many additions that were flat out ignored because of this decision which is potentially made to just earn more money from selling two versions instead of one. It's one of the same issues I had with BDSP: why not remake platinum instead? That's the main issue for me, and from what I found, lots of players too. Doesn't ruin the games though, like I said, ORAS is still really cool. I just think it'd potentially be the best remakes in the series if they just added all they did to emerald instead of RS. Hope that explains my stance a bit!

[@erikmacaluso]

I loved Let's Go, and I don't care who knows it.

[@whitedragonzerureusu4480]

You're not alone buddy. People are missing out on it just because it's different from the shit they like to play over and over

[@Sincald]

The fact that BDSP contains bugs from original DP that were patched in Platinum is just astounding to me lmao BDSP & SV are the first mainline games I've ever skipped and I'm comfortable continuing to skip them if they keep rushing development like they have been

[@whitedragonzerureusu4480]

I got s/v to learn about the new pokemon and see how broken they are. just to keep up to date. I did enjoy Kierans story in the dlc and u would be lying if i said i didnt like the ai boss battle, the music for that was realy cool and the difficulty of it felt just right for me while all the gym leaders i just one shotted with my starter. My starter wasn't so overl eved that it would disobey me. but s/v and s/w were really boring to play through. Just wanted to get it over done with so i had everything unlocked to do the real fun things. Like doing six star raids for example. catching the legendaries, etc. im tired sorry for the spelling mistakes im talking about sword and shield and scarlet and violet here. If the next pokemon game isnt going to be good i wont buy it. i've reached my limit and i feel like the games are not worth the prices they are being sold for

[@SockCrow]

i swear, i have never seen a more underrated KZbinr than you. your content is a quality that i havent seen in other channels lately. you should have more subs.

[@prezmer]

I just wanted you to know your comment made my day (and the day was going terribly). Thank you so much!!!! I'm really glad you're enjoying my content!

[@Shnarfbird]

Rescue Team DX was a better remake because it was Spike/Chunsoft in charge of them, who have a lot of care for smoothness of gameplay experience and the heart of a story. And as a small example, every pokemon from generation 3 and earlier that had an evolution added in a later generation could evolve - even eevee into sylveon!

[@aliesterus1.023]

19:32 We do, in fact, have a video on KZbin documenting employee experiences with GameFreak by translating their reviews. The information is in fact publicly available, just not in any language outside of Japanese. What little I remember about it is GameFreak does not retain data on past games, even just the basics of Pokemon and their movepool, as well as having a small workforce and a stagnating environment.

[@doughboywhine]

Dawg they license official books that contain literally everything ever released in these games, how do they not have a single copy of any gen in the office

[@aliesterus1.023]

@@doughboywhine Ah, I misremembered what the quote was. Here's the whole quote, word for word, that they translated from the GameFreak company employee review page in the exact same format: [good point] associated with famous titles [Things to be worried about/points that should be improved] It's not rewarding to keep making the same thing. They don't have time or people to try new things or technologies, and they don't even try to keep past data. I can't recommend it if you want to make games or improve your skills.

[@mourndogs]

Battle Frontier more like Battle Not Here

[@prezmer]

OMG THIS WAS SO GOOD now I’m angry at myself for going with battle frongone

[@ningyoangel551]

I absolutely agree with this video, but in my opinion its a bigger issue than just the remakes, for me the games have been on a downfall ever since it became 3d, i respext XY because they were the first 3d mainline games, so im fine with it being somewhat lacking, but anything after that is no excuse, and in my experience of playing pokemon ORAS, Lets Go and Arceus are the best 3d ones, the ones that are actually fun to play, well SM & USUM aint that bad, but they have ZERO replayability and are way too sluggish, and for me SwSh, BDSP and SV are absolutely masterpieces in how UNFUN, underwhelming and just straight up bad they are compared to previous games that it's not even funny. So yeah it's true that remakes are getting somewhat worse, but besides BDSP we have more concerns about the actual mainline games!

[@whitedragonzerureusu4480]

This! you've perfectly explained how i felt when X and Y came out and what happened after it. I got S/S because it was easier to make competetive pokemon with the introduction of mints and bottle caps. now we have those and the mirror herb for egg moves, candies from raids for fast lvl ups. easy tms to craft etc. I got S/V because i wanted to stay up to date with the new stuff and new pokemon. They've really brought in power creep into pokemon. I've decided to not buy mainline pokemon games anymore if they aren't any good. And i will wait before i buy any of their spin off remakes. But i feel like im just done with pokemon. Idc what other people will think i've been a pokemon fan for over 25 years i think i've had enough of it lol

[@guguedaniful]

ORAS are the best remakes we have Not having the frontier is bad, but all the game is fantastic

[@victinisoul8368]

I was never a big fan of Hoenn (my least favorite region besides Galar). Alpha Sapphire I honestly pleasantly enjoyed (which admitted comes from someone who would never play Emerald willingly). But Diamond was my first game and the remakes upset me a lot. I loved platinum and wanted to see the Distortion World realized on better hardware. Plus so many things I loved in even just Diamond is gone, such as the depth in the contests, or decorating my underground base with bunneary plushes. Legends was fun enough, but it also didn't really give me what I wanted and was annoying infuriating like a 3rd of the time.

[@prezmer]

First I just wanted to say I love your name, Victini is one of the best things about gen 5! As for your comment, yeah... Did you see the fan remake I put in the description? I'd LOVE to see a distortion world realized in such a manner. Ah well, maybe in 20 years when they start to remake remakes....

[@victinisoul8368]

@@prezmer Thanks, actually was my favorite pokemon for a long time, alongside Ralts. The fanmade remake looks amazing honestly.

[@slightcurve98]

ORAS was so good they just needed the battle frontier and that’s it. They did so well and they missed out the huge part of the game and they knew it was a big part because they mention the battle frontier in the game

[@Shonen_Shadow]

Personally I actually never cared or played in the battle frontier when i was young and I think HGSS is kinda overated... I always saw the battle frontier as too hard and competitive so I always ignored it completely so it did not bother me when it wasn't in ORAS and honestly I think ORAS is better than HGSS just because Hoenn just has much more to do and much more enjoyable environments then both Kanto and Johto combined as well as the addition of mirage islands, mega evolution, delta episode, soaring, super secret bases, dex nav and all the legendary pokemon in the post game made it so full of content that was actually fun that it far outclasses HGSS in my opinion and HGSS still suffers from the Gen 2 issue of being too grindy with 2 regions that feel incomplete tho I still enjoyed the overall game, but I do agree that ORAS would have been even better with Battle Frontier on top of everything else and that every remake after ORAS has been horribly disappointing

[@prezmer]

Yeah, that's a fair opinion, even if I do prefer HGSS. It's like I said, ORAS gets credits because it actually still added a ton of stuff, but I don't put it as highly ranked as the first two because of all the content it removed as well. But that's just my personal opinion based on how much I enjoyed the emerald battle frontier back in the day - whether or not people care about what it removed is definitely up to each individual person, and your opinion is definitely not uncommon. ORAS still has a lot of fans, as it should! Thanks for your comment!

[@Shonen_Shadow]

honestly tho the only thing holding HGSS back is the fact it's a remake of gen 2 which had so many problems and gen 3 was a much more solid foundation to work with so HGSS did more to improve the originals but with ORAS the originals were already really good @@prezmer

[@christopherbennett5858]

Yeah, I think one KZbinr put it best with her retrospective of pokemon; The executives want their money now. Scarlet and Violet are the conflict between the developers and the executives made manifest; the game would be fantastic but it was rushed beyond belief. Work was made with the stories and characters but the gameplay is the most atrocious. It’s the game that crashed on me the most. And there’s one other problem; the executives are lazy and know that, like with Dexit, people will buy regardless. Not to mention, when Dexit first happened, whilst many objected, there was the “pro Dexit” side that kind of forgot you could transfer pokemon in the other games. Almost like they wanted the “anti-Dexit” players to be grateful that they even got a game. And Black and White’s remakes will probably be these problems coming to roost in one particular way; in black and white, you can’t use any non gen 5 pokemon until after the main story. That’s why Black and white had so many new pokemon that were essentially recycled favourites; to provide variety that the company intentionally stripped. So just imagine what happens if they do a “faithful” remake. HgSS was fantastic but they needed the safari zone because a lot of great gen 2 pokemon were locked into the Kanto post game. That sucked because, whilst some may argue that they’re like little trophies, it meant that you couldn’t use them in the main story or much else. That’s why, for all its faults, I really did like Scarlet and Violet for how many pokemon you could get so early. The moment three star raids became possible, I got that Frigibax and had a blast using it. Sucks really. But we’re going to keep buying it.

[@prezmer]

I wonder if we'd actually get good games if they were given more time. It's gotten to the point I genuinely can't tell because all we get is rushed games. And for everything they get right, they screw it up again later while fixing something else. SV for example had decent story... MASSIVE difference from gen 8 which had more or less NO story. Plus, game freak's other endeavors, which I assume are given more dev time, are all flops, the latest being little town hero. So I really don't know if their only issue is the time pressure, and we're unlikely to ever find out because production schedule is not about to slow down. As you said, money ends up being valued above all else. And as you also said, we'll all keep buying whatever they shit out because the core gameplay can't ever be unfun. It just sucks that everything else is often subpar at best nowadays.

[@christopherbennett5858]

@@prezmer Yeah, brand loyalty doesn’t help either. Now, game freak has always had performance issues but I feel like, as the fanbase has older, more vocal people, we’re seeing more egregious examples. It’s like if you only read one book and then read a bunch more so you’re more savvy to whether or not something is interesting writing or an offensive trope; you just pick up on things more. And what frustrates me about Scarlet and Violet the most is that there’s an inherently good game in there but corporate greed and the borderline addiction for content regardless of quality is why the executives won’t be persuaded to change. What would be needed would be a sudden plummet in sales to indicate that the current business model isn’t working. However, I don’t think we will see that anytime soon. That being said, I am happy when people find enjoyment in these game and the franchise. The animated stuff this year has been a great reflection of that as well. Which does frustrate me that, even nowadays when voice acting is becoming more of a thing, the franchise still does silent protagonists in more dialogue clogged stories. Maybe that’s why the lowkey nature of SV isn’t as grating as something like Sun and Moon where the real character is Lillie and you’re practically a shadow seeing the domestic abuse with a very blank stare.

[@oyeh8908]

You could always just buy different games instead, made by a company that actually cares. I really don't understand how people can be so upset about Game Freak's problems, then just keep rewarding them for it anyway.

[@whitedragonzerureusu4480]

@@christopherbennett5858 Check out dragon quest monsters the dark prince. I've been havinga lot of fun in that game and im enjoying it more than i did with S/S and S/V. maybe you will like it too? I feel like i've grown out of pokemon and realising you've been playing the same shit for over 25 years doesn't help. The dark prince was refreshing

[@GPReeds]

I would honestly pay full price for a Battle Frontier game on Switch.

[@whitedragonzerureusu4480]

If its dlc same here. however if its only available for a certain amount time after paying for it then hell no

[@Jikrin]

Pokemon is a game to the fans, but it is a business for the creators. They think money, whereas we think fun. Nevertheless 3rd and 5th are my favorite gens.

[@om0206]

I still think both FrLg and HgSs were objectively better in every way to the originals. OrAs were still good.

[@prezmer]

Agreed!

[@battlelegendsean]

Remakes aside, Pokemon needs to make a definitive Pokemon game that’s extremely high quality and open world if that’s what they’re going for. They can then add all the regions through the various dlcs they seem to like making. This way, they’d continuously get more sales as people’s favorite regions get added. (The dlcs could be made cheap and the game itself more expensive) I don’t think this has to be Gen 10 but if they want to preserve their longevity this change should be made within the next 10 years.

[@FaolanHart]

I find it so weird how people hate Lets Go but love Legends Arceus. Both games are uninspired mindless catch-a-phons where you just chuck balls at Pokemon over & over & over again. Thats the core of the gameplay on both. Gotta catch em all! As in EVERY SINGLE ONE IN EXISTENCE! I feel like I'm the only one who hated Legends Arceus. Its just so boring. Maybe its because I actually like turn based combat & am tired of seeing JRPGs become boring "action" games.

[@whitedragonzerureusu4480]

You're not alone i played legends arceus but its definately not as good as the white nights say it is. i did have some fun in it for a while until all the tasks you needed to do in the pokedex was way too much to do. I did not enjoy that part. I enjoyed lets go and got it when it launched. we are in the minority but not alone. the people who bash on it havent even played the game themselves so its all just hot garbage coming from their mouths. talking about shit they dont know about and havent even tried. i know a youtuber you might like who loved lets go and was the only one brave enough to point out how bad legends arceus was and its flaws before other youtubers did. his name is verlisify. if you dont know him then that is suprising because hes got a bad rep in the pokemon community for calling out the cheaters in the community. its a bit of a rabbit hole but i do recommend you try to watch his videos before you watch other peoples videos about him. because everyone has the same brain cell and loves to hate on verlisify and they will do their best to make you hate him to. if you can watch some of his videos first you will see his side of the story with less bias. he can be a bit of an a**hole. but thats only when people try to defend the cheaters or havent done their research and are just being stupid by calling things legit when they are actually not and are against the pokemon official rules. He's one of those people who get really passionate like that. like i said its a bit of a rabbit hole ^^ He's done other videos and does guides. He doesn't like smogon and his pokemon are built very differently than most peoples and its refreshing and fun to see those

[@FaolanHart]

@whitedragonzerureusu4480 I'm aware of Verlisify. He's earned some of that hate imo. He's an oooold PokeTuber with some of the worst & most consistent click bait I've seen. I used to be subbed to him. I agree with his anti cheating stance. But he would go after KZbinrs who hack Pokemon just to use in their videos with friends. None of those Pokemon would be for online with randoms/real competitive. Because yeah, they should be bread & raised legitimately. I don't hate him. But he's wasted enough of my time to not bother with his videos anymore. I will look up that Arceus one though. Let's Go was ok. I liked it for what it was. An attempt to turn mobile gamers into real gamers, & on to the main series. But I had to play on handheld mode, as the TV fully motion controlled throwing was maddening. I'd be ok with it being a spin-off series. Legs Go Marrill & Togapi for example.

[@MadMalMan]

I have to agree, Legends was a much better sandbox game than Scar/Vio and did have a striking style and theme really visually impressive and I liked the regional variants. But scratch through that shallow surface and its just a grinding game of repeating the same or very similar tasks with long load screens. Gameplay is very poor and personally I put it down one day and could never be bothered to pick it up and finish it.

[@MollyOKami]

My main issue with the games is all of the stuff that is stuck behind post-game. They've become so focused on the competitive scene with these games that they practically force players to zoom through the game to unlock post-game content such as IV judges, certain battle items, and special training that players have no time to just sit & enjoy the worlds they've created…then the company get pissed that players are flying through content faster than they can make it. What they need to do is go back & give these games replay value. This way, players could build teams & drop them off in Pokémon HOME and feel free to restart their journey & try new things. I did that all of the time with the original 3 generations. I'd store my best Pokémon, start a fresh, & then send them back. Now, I just feel so rushed to finish the game because of the different level raids & Luxury Balls are only unlocked with game progression & I care more about catching new Pokémon & breeding them to 6 perfect IVs in Luxury Balls. It's ridiculous. I just want to explore the world of Pokémon, not get drip-fed content. Even in Sw/Sh, I could unlock BOTH DLC locations with only one badge & my Starter already up to Lv. 70+. Now, the second DLC for S/V is post-game only. 💢

[@MofoMan2000]

I didn't want to love ORAS, but I did. Absolutely beautiful games, vibrant and colorful, and the music was top notch. I personally didn't mind the chibi art style of BDSP, but those games really just gave me no reason to want to play them again. Personally I hope they don't make any more remakes and just focus on making new content going forward.

[@ChristianGonzalezCapizzi]

I just finished a play through of both Heart Gold and Omega Ruby and tbh I think OR is better. It's more polished, has gorgeous visuals, has mega evolutions, etc. The lack of a Battle Frontier isn't that big a deal for me. Besides there's the Battle Resort which helps scratch that itch. The Delta Episode was also a really nice addition. So for me, both 10/10 games but I enjoyed playing OR a little more than HG

[@xryeau_1760]

I hope that when/if we get Unova remakes Gamefreak does better. I feel like the Gen 5 games hold a lot of potential in terms of reexploring it's story and gameplay

[@prezmer]

Agreed! The gen 5 games genuinely have the best storylines so I hope they don’t mess up any games in that setting.

[@adriencloud2130]

I dont want a remake from black and white but rather black and white 3

[@joshkittrell914]

Lots of people are already asking for Unova remakes in response to how underwhelming BDSP was. Now as much as I love BW and BW2, I’d much rather have Pokémon company keep going in the order the original games were released and go for an Explorers of Sky remake since Rescue Team DX was what got me hooked on PMD in the first place.

[@morphstarchangeling8024]

I'll be honest. I don't even think you can consider the underground expanded on. They took away every feature that made the underground interesting in diamond and pearl by cutting the amount of base decorations down to mere statues, there's not any traps to discover and use to keep people from entering your base to steal your flag for their base, the addition of pokemon to catch in the underground was nice but removing all the things from the original underground in place of that wasn't worth it. On the context of the games getting worse I'd like to bring up the dlc for scarlet and violet. I feel like we could have cut the terapagos stuff from the dlc and make that base game. Arven in the post game talks about the weird page in the book about the disk Heath saw in area zero. Why not have the player Arven, Nemona, and Penny get authorized to go down into area zero in search of Terapagos in the main game instead of tying it to Kairan's story where it feels out of place. The dlc was called the hidden treasure of area zero but neither dlc feels like connected to paldea let alone the region the dlc was named after.

[@xAdrianHGx]

I really got into pokemon franchise way too late. Missed out on all these games and started out with legends arceus, which was so well done it gave me high expectations for gen 9. Till i bought the game day 1 and got hit with the one of, if not THE most, poorly done pokemon game ever for the platform's standard. The lag spikes, unbearable frame drops and glitches along with poor visuals that make pokemon look like they have been badly cropped and pasted into the wild area. The visual style is non-consistent, they did good job with pokemon models having actual texture and idle animations in battle actually resembling fighting stances, but thats where the qualities start to end. The move animations, even the signature ones from legendaries, look exteremly underwhelming and cheap. I know it was supposed to be fast-paced and somehow blend into the open world aspect and camera rotation, but ya aint telling me they could do it properly in legends arceus but fumble so hard in the mainline games. I dont care how long animation is, i wanna be able to see my legendary pokemon absolutely erase the lvl 6 flechling from existence with the BIG boom, but in actuality the explosions are most resembling of ember attack. Oh, and lets not mention the fact that in legends arceus the contact moves MADE ACTUAL CONTACT. Now when they throw a punch, they *literally* throw a punch (at least the symbol of it). In legends arceus i loved having lucario use close combat in an absolute beatdown. There are just way too many things to fit in a comment and not make it a thesis, so in conclusion, Gen 9, despite having a good story, failed so hard. And legends arceus was abandoned way too fast. What seemed like nearly perfect game got dropped instantly. I hop in legends arceus every now and then, and after scarlet/violet gameplay it feels like drinking water at 3 am, the breath of fresh air. And seeing the direction the games are going now, i started fearing the remakes will truly only get worse and worse. Used to want them but now im just hoping they take as much time as they can, even if it takes 5 years. Would be cool if pokemon company actually decided to put as much effort into a game as rockstar games does with gta6, they really went 2 billions in to create a masterpiece that will define generations, while pokemon company just dishes out generations to make as much money from merch as possible.

[@dre1426]

The refusal to give Pokémon games the time they need to be fully developed and polished is so emblematic of the company’s unchecked capitalist greed. They should not be charging for post-game dlc expansions (expansions that should be free, not charged as two separate items) if they’re also gonna rush out the games to the point where they’re extremely buggy at launch-this a wider problem with the industry where games get patched and become reasonably stable only months later, but that’s not an excuse for The Pokémon Company. They’re gonna keep doing this until they reach a point where it actually affects their sales. Until then the people making the decisions are gonna keep doing what they’re doing and not caring about the games’ integrity.

[@Linkophere]

Simply put they dont have the time but more importantly the talent and passion to make these games anymore. Also they already know itll sell well so for them who cares? I personally liked BDSP cause they didnt mess it up. I dont trust game freak so the fact its so faithful is a huge bonus to me. Cause frankly, again, i dont trust them. And yea i kno gamefreak didnt make bdsp. Doesnt change anything. I still am glad it came out as samey as it was