The Big House 4 - Leffen (Fox) Vs. Mew2King (Marth) - Winners Finals - SSBM

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[@NickyCrispy]

"M2K you destroyed Leffen. What happened?" "What happened is: 1) Leffen talked shit 2) I wanted to destroy him 3) I destroyed him"

[@omarkhawja9724]

I am the one who asked him that question in ZFG's chat.

[@Nysyarc]

Omar Khawja I remember that. "I speedrun my opponents. Like Leffen, lol."

[@salsaspartan7]

Sounds about right 👌

[@haushaushaushaushaushaushaus]

lol m2k

[@Reminiscable]

Incredible by M2K. I loved it when the commentators started discussing Marth and Link's socio-economic class :)

[@Reminiscable]

1:08 Conversation of the year!

[@bobblewitup]

Watching Leffen get wrecked by M2K pleased me greatly.

[@nicolasanguilano3075]

Jeffanawa Nah Because he lost 3-0...

[@lucasblomgren1975]

Jeffanawa Nah Two of the matches were played on Leffens counterpick which HEAVILY favors Fox. M2k has FD which is like a free win for him vs Leffen. It wasn't close.

[@Nysyarc]

Jeffanawa Nah You can't really say "if X happened, Y would have won", because there were hundreds if not thousands of things that could have gone differently in game 1 to cause either M2K or Leffen to win or even 4 stock each other. All that matters is what did happen, which was a 3-0. Also in this context I think getting wrecked just means generally getting outplayed and styled on stock-by-stock (M2K had some pretty sick creative combos), regardless of stock count at the end. At this level of play it's expected that players aren't going to 3-stock each other.

[@StudioInspiration]

***** In an interview, Scar said to m2k "you beat Leffen" and m2k responded "yeah, as usual". I'm pretty sure he isn't worried. Leffen has a huge marth weakness.

[@TheLastPrime38]

StudioInspiration exactly, leffen even said he doesn't like playing marth

[@trapmagicify]

"That's like saying that green is the opposite of wood"

[@shady8045]

Thomas Liebrecht SAT questions in a nutshell

[@Doppelmetz]

7:05 No. Fucking. Way.

[@Callibretto]

that was absolutely insane

[@ForceOfWill100]

Doppelmetz Yeah I had to replay that like 8 times just to believe that it actually happened in a tournament.

[@danielvutran]

Doppelmetz I GOT FUCKING CHILLS! Xdddd

[@OfDaSouth]

Doppelmetz I'm fucking using that next time I Fthrow a fox off a ledge instead of Dtilt. That was too hype.

[@meatsauce4772]

this stuff happens all the time in a 60-40 matchup

[@lemueltimbreza]

Leffen pre-popoff at 3:33 gets me every time lmao

[@stitchfaces]

5:25 was so sick by Mew2King. Had no idea that worked.

[@raphaelchantigny7409]

stitchfaces It doesn't, years of practice and it still doesn't x.X M2K made it work...

[@RyanMelonGaming]

Raphael Chantigny I've gotten it to work before, it is a very hard input ._.

[@junitono1]

I'm surprised Leffen didn't..... smash his controller :)

[@MinecrafterK3N]

6:10 Toph makes a UMvC3 Taskmaster reference and gets sad because Scar didn't notice

[@TerraceLuster]

I'm surprised no one has commented on the fact that, throughout this tournament, Scar was ranting about his newfound respect for "Marth" via playing Fire Emblem: Awakening.

[@xRePullse]

When Tofu (yes, I'm gonna call him tofu.) said that Link was part of the "lower economic class", I thought he was talking about the tier list.

[@oughtopilot]

Return of the King

[@bigross7899]

The Dead as a doorknob is going in the commentator combo video.

[@ProlificPops]

Lol

[@Littlelink91]

This has the correct form of commentary so much, it actually made me smile. For one, they made clean jokes, nothing against players, just actual jokes in the smash setting during this particular match up. It caught my eye as actual commentary throughout the video, but what nailed it for me was when the commentator said how he looks at the whole picture when he watches the match. Im pleased to see a sense of grown up individuality in the smash setting and not just some blow up in your face remarks about the match in itself. Great match! And I can't wait to see more.

[@BeazerProductions]

“Leffen does not like Marth!” Still true in 2021.

[@vasjaruiz3766]

That nasty down-spike, though . . BEAUTIFUL .

[@CashChecks69]

lmfao. down spike.

[@CashChecks69]

its down-air

[@vasjaruiz3766]

Same difference .

[@CashChecks69]

Lol true

[@TurbinationE]

+Michael Bastidas The down air is a spike though

[@siLveRscOpe13x]

Bruh. This commentary is great. Haha.

[@TheMatthyssen]

try to comment right plz smh

[@ameliabedelia4107]

M2ks Lucina is on point

[@Imakidormaybeasquid]

Fat

[@lezzei]

this comment served as a hint that m2k would use lucina in ultimate

[@thegoodgeneral]

God this commentary is so good. I love watching these old sets.

[@trixietruelove2274]

I keep coming back to watch this

[@nazurin5982]

I even downloaded it

[@acomp250]

I know it's an unpopular opinion, but I'm glad to see Leffen do so well this tournament. I couldn't care less about his "ego" and "evidence.zip" and whatever; he was playing to win all weekend. Great set by both of them.

[@MRLynch19]

I'm just happy when gods are slain by demis.

[@Scootaflew]

10:07 Leffen, your ego is showing.

[@DrAlphatier]

M2K's Marth is godly.

[@leia1007]

7:43 lol that pause

[@charc0al_tv]

Lol at Leffen's premature pop-off at 3:31

[@strawhats100]

jason's combos with marth are soo....pure and yet so vicious at the same time.

[@hiroshigarcia6118]

I feel like this video is the definition of beautiful marth play. It's just so clean

[@ThePianoSpeaks]

YES M2K!

[@ErinLynagh]

6:55 DOORNAIL

[@ArthDragon14]

lmfao the mini mew2kings' saying didn't heard that from toph before

[@ck-oj5os]

I believe the saying is, "dead as a door nail."

[@jennytalia6724]

6:48 where do they get these announcers from? ranting about the phrase "dead as a doorknob" like WTF focus on the game

[@SharpShooter6191]

Hey I hope this isn't a stupid question. But I almost never see M2K use Marth's deflect move. Are they not allowed to use it or what?

[@zXrabidrabbitXz]

its just very easy to punish so its usually not worth it. for the most part its only used against recklessly aggressive players

[@Isaac1729]

The only common use for counter is to easily punish recoveries like Fox's up-B when the Fox has no choice but to either up-B into the counter or die.

[@Starfy119]

Wow m2ks marth is incredible and its a beautiful thing to see. Such amazing combos

[@ultimatetaggerung]

I dont know why, but the players that quit out right before they lose always seem like the most hated.

[@ThenorinSSBM]

7:03 best moment in the match.

[@salsaspartan7]

That was freaking dirty! .... I wanna see it again! 😃

[@CooperDonaldson]

Just putting this out there...I look up to mewtwoking...A LOT.

[@salsaspartan7]

Same here brutha. M2K is the reason I play Melee

[@ganondorfdragmire7886]

Toph on sword-characters: "... when coming from the lowest social-economic class..." He gets it, all of it. 1:29 Scar on melee interpretation: "... based on audio-visual cues... THE KEN COMBO OHHH!!!" Remember when Leffen was a dick?

[@MikersGamingVideos]

7:02 M2k Dominance

[@RawwestHide]

mew2king expressing himself

[@jaddal2215]

It's crazy revisiting this set 5 years later. Leffeb still losing to Marry but this time Zain.

[@ohitsshallows]

Scar has gotten so much better at commentary. Love hearing him on the mic now.

[@parkouster]

3:35 leffen celebrating a little too early LOL

[@DanOfAwsome]

I'm still not convinced leffen is good. he uses the same techniques and rarely adapts or improvises.

[@IIIIITHE1IIIII]

Please tell me you didn't watch a certain tournament three days ago.

[@billw.5397]

he took 2 sets off armada this month.

[@EarlobeJuice]

Bill W. and mango

[@EarlobeJuice]

Bill W. and he took $1000 from him lmao

[@DanOfAwsome]

FizzzyFizzz Yeah. I take it back. he's improved a lot in the past year.

[@Greatermaxim]

4 years later Leffen's Fox will put them all to shame. This Fox looks more balanced unlike the future on that's all out.

[@DjayJohn]

3:33 What are you standing up for!?

[@Mrfanofsonic]

Leffen held up really well, I'm so proud.

[@lkrauss100]

When leffen does jab, move left/right up smash, is he wavedashing or just dashing into the up smash?

[@snail15]

lkrauss100 Jump cancel up-smash

[@PorkpieJohnny]

that one guy in the audience wearing the Solaire hoodie

[@jonathan6480]

I would love to know what this venue smelled like.

[@Denton116]

How are M2K's wavedashes onto edge so crisp? Like at 10:00. I know he fast falls after the wavedash, but does he hold the control stick towards the stage as well? Or does this have to do with Wavedash distance? Everytime I try to do it, Marth's momentum puts me too far off to grab the ledge. Can anyone help with this?

[@DantonPhanton]

You don't fastfall. You do a regular fall, youse x or y to jump, and point the control stick almost parallel with the stage and wavedash/wave land. It's a very cool technique but it takes a lot of practice.

[@thehoror01]

You have to fastfall after the wavedash but let go of the control stick before you grab the ledge because you cannot grab the ledge while you are holding down on the control stick. Basically you just want to hold down for the first few frames where you are in the air and then let go. It takes some practice but it is a very useful tool once you've got the hang of it.

[@TylerHyperFace]

6:15 TASKMASTER REFERENCE! I HEAR YOU TOPH

[@JumbaJumby]

Lol thought the same thing. It fell flat but i was like "UMVC3 :O"

[@Tibal4444]

first round was like a fucking great poetic story damn .

[@extallo]

This commenters were biased as hell. In my opinion, Leffen played a great Fox and pulled off some great stuff in these matches, like taking M2K's second stock and only taking 3% damage while doing so in game three. I just feel like he might have lost focus at certain points during every game, and that's understandable. However, I am a Marth main in PM and I think these games are some of the hypest Marth games I've ever seen and they make me want to get really good at all the technical stuff. I had respect for M2K before, but it seems like he can play almost any character this way. I really respect him for that.

[@nicolashrechko8845]

Scar and Toph at their finest here

[@Ribskinski]

M2K DROPZONE WAS GODLIKE.

[@jun_xiv]

damn m2k should've taken this tournament.

[@richardtan3108]

He did...

[@jun_xiv]

Bob 1734 he lost to mango in grands dude

[@postman6553]

Its too hot! Here we go! Its too hot! Here we go!... etc. Thats the sound of me clicking the rewind button over and over again

[@DirEnRefused]

Don't know if it was just me, but Scar's off tangent comments on random shit during matches this tournament were way more prevalent and obnoxious than previously.

[@stabbedbyahippie]

I could see why someone would dislike it, but I think it usually leads to pretty funny banter with him and his usual co-commentators (mango/toph)

[@alex-er3de]

And the taunt. lol

[@NKNAC]

Leffen looked like pure evil in the player cam.

[@zeldededeab9966]

I laughed at the white collar joke.

[@shady8045]

Zeldedede Ab9 lol I died at it XD

[@saltynipplefwiend7912]

I can relate to leffen because I play Fox too. I usually switch to Sheik when I play Marth's

[@jghodnette]

It's deader than a door nail, not door knob. Made famous by Charles Dickens's "A Christmas Carol." Read up Scar and Toph.

[@MrArtless1]

it's dead as a door NAIL actually

[@sivret20]

What is a dropzone? I thought it was only something Falcon could do.

[@BHox01]

Just when you run off a ledge into an attack instead of jumping off. The most popular of which is Falcon's DThrow to dropzone knee.

[@omukssbm]

The last stock of game 1 is fucking insane.

[@diegozubiri8098]

0:55 does that attack still spike/meteor in the 3ds/wii u versions?

[@albanfreaks]

Yep

[@XMansive]

In the 3ds/wii u versions, you have to be directly above your opponent AND land a tipper to spike/meteor.

[@CubanLegend561]

GimR, the video's audio is desynced from the start.... :(

[@jadonplox]

3:30 why wasnt that on gr smash top 10 early popoff

[@ABadGamble]

It's "dead as a doornail" for anyone who cares

[@Linkman145]

Guys comment the match please

[@ipat202]

I love M2K honestly its so awesome when he wins

[@georgerosebush9754]

10:07 He shakes his head and rolls his eyes, as if to say, actually I don't know what he must be thinking...

[@Charmolution]

"It's such bullshit that he won _just_ because he's better than me. Nonsense, I say!"

[@baconater4000]

not to ruin the fun, but he was probably just rollin his eyes at how he died or that he put up such a "poor" performance. ya know, 3-0

[@nepentheolithic]

Jake Greenberg, I see you

[@nakodares5982]

Leffen has a real Marth problem. And he choked away that first match damn, that was quite a big momentum loss for him

[@poopeyinmymouth]

dead as a doorknob comes from Shakespeare

[@blakerussell6493]

Deader than Elvis was an option, I think Scar covered that poorly BrokeBack

[@rodriguez777ace]

2:43 Snagger no snagging.. sneaky snake

[@ReaperOfMadness]

Toph and Scar's commentating is so funny!

[@TheSuperTett]

I hate when players end the match with the no contest screen when they lose! That Leffen dude has the worst attitude to play this sport.

[@NuDudeKJ]

"Well doorknobs are certainly not alive.." xD

[@isolationist4860]

And 1 year later. Leffen beat Mewtwo king. SHIT!

[@MikersGamingVideos]

Darkstar Editor i here leffen is good can someone show me if theres any video of the recent battles ?

[@weetswa4550]

m2k 6-0'd leffen recently.

[@Slattsquatch]

7:07 WHAT THE FUCK

[@shady8045]

kinda sucks that m2k didn't win it all he played really well this tour

[@GoldenboyMatt27]

2:58 - 3:03 WOOOAAAHHH!!!!

[@TerraceLuster]

So glad M2K 3-0ed him. Also 7:03 was orgasmic.

[@randumo24]

M2K just beats Leffen basically every time. Their series record is extremely lopsided.

[@16williamss]

+randumo24 lol not anymore

[@randumo24]

16williamss What do you mean not anymore? Leffen beat m2k a couple times over the summer, then m2k went back to whooping his ass again.

[@davjags]

M2K did bop him last time, but it's been a long time since due to the whole Leffen not being allowed in the states for some reason ordeal

[@mettataurr]

9:47 lffn should have shine >up B ledge stall and maintained invincibility

[@mettataurr]

Jonathan burrito well idk actually. marth still had a jump... Prob random fearlessness and reading marths recovery with a shine woulda worked >.>

[@snail15]

Jonathan burrito He probably tried to input a drop down double jump bair but did the jump input to early which lead to that ledge jump

[@DankestLankJOJO]

Is it true that M2K might quit Melee?

[@OpenParenthesis]

Quit Melee? In favor of what?

[@Kubiak04]

Man I wish I lived in a place called fucking Romulus

[@JesseDumontt]

"Breezes by Leffen" umm not really. He did 3-0 him, but Leffen got him down to one stock all three games. Well, dang. I'm not sure how good Leffen really is as I don't really watch his games, but did anyone expect this? Is he underrated or what.

[@ToastYT]

So everyone gives Chillin a hard time for popping off early during his MM with leffen, noone's going to mention leffen's equally stupid pop off at 3:32?

[@Redism1917]

+Toast Oh yeah? and whens the last time chillin got top 3 at anything other than regional tourney?

[@AfroSmash]

2:50 M2K GETS ME CREAMY

[@attention_shopping]

such a good set

[@7thmalice]

i think m2k played close to mango at his best in this which is saying a lot, and as much as i kinda like leffen it is satisfying to watch him get thirtyed

[@9tailjeza]

leffen's shirt looks like he's been stabbed...

[@Hundal19]

7:04 DROPPPZZONEEEEEEEEEE

[@t_bone_4]

Leffen looks so different

[@sanctuary8873]

and leffen ALSO gets four stocked AFTER this lol! rip