Paragon 2015 - Leffen (Fox) Vs. PL MVG EMP | Mew2King (Marth) SSBM Losers Finals - Melee

[@TheSmashbro64]

13:48 Leffen tries to compensate for the loss by beating rock with paper

[@Angel89]

Lol

[@djspencerduh]

Dance Gavin Dance!

[@StarTard8]

THAT FINAL STOCK! F-throw, F-throw, D-tilt, jab, Counter, F-air, F-air, up-B. 0 - Death. Incredible. The King of the Mews is here!!

[@Katalowins]

13:37 Always include a timestamp.

[@1000g2g3g4g800999]

Katalowins You couldn't have done 1 second earlier? ;L

[@Katalowins]

1000g2g3g4g800999 I give you that. Edited for the truth. The truth being this man.

[@ntarps1]

and then goes for the fist bump... lol this man m2k

[@rebelian7]

N Tarp Leffen be like "Paper beats rock"

[@Kudosute]

"Sometimes kings have to remind fools why they are king."

[@Vextos]

M2K's Marth looks TAS'd at some points.

[@itsOZone]

its so beautiful

[@shitposter2790]

20hyahhyah

[@BrickNGames]

+Vextos Mostly on FD. When he gets a grab 20% of the time it is basically TAS

[@Magzillas]

M2K's Marth at times is practically artistic in its precision and elegance. For example: that side-B Ken combo. Holy shit. Edit: and that last stock. My gosh.

[@Smitteys86]

I love that "wow" by D1 at 11:30. It seems meme worthy.

[@Glep444]

No memes allowed.

[@jaf7979]

yeah i noticed that meme 2 m8

[@Seank7]

"WAeHw"

[@ShadyChibinko]

I like how D1 has a pause afterwards. :)

[@LeRuseBird]

Epic XD

[@anqrydino8944]

Teh second the m2k chant starts its game over no matter what.

[@monjuele]

Mew2king is defending the godhood, you can't lose to him Jason!

[@MrJimmyJammers]

M2ks marth is like a million times cooler than his sheik. Such a joy to watch

[@sareaper69]

Whereas M2K's Fox is the lamest thing in the universe.

[@pdizzlin]

I like all his chars.

[@343GuiltyBlaze]

Is it just me, or does Leffen always look like he's about to throw up whenever he plays?

[@HapplyFace]

LOL

[@EpicTogekiss]

FireStorm920 LOL

[@MrMichaelsux]

+FireStorm920 LOL

[@343GuiltyBlaze]

LOL

[@Trickdaddy271]

LOL

[@Yanya420]

M2K truly deserves that MLG hoodie.

[@ExilixE]

Literally every kill on that last game on Pokemon Stadium was straight stylin!

[@iceloveanime]

leffen put up a fight but m2k showed that he will ALWAYS be a contender.

[@TheImpossibleMan]

I never get tired of this set, mew2king's play is so completely on-point even as Leffen repeatedly gets kills at 40% off shine spikes. Though neither player is perfect or even close, neither makes any real mistakes or beats themselves, and every stock is extremely competitive. Every match has flashy, hype moments. Best 3-1 set I've ever seen.

[@becauseican66]

I was waiting for m2k to literally whop out a salt shaker.... Reddit promised me this..

[@syllfo9130]

that post was made today this was on the 17th

[@becauseican66]

Syllfo​ I'm gonna pretend like I already knew that.

[@Seank7]

Well you obviously did

[@xFusionxSpectre]

He'll do it at Apex

[@ruizez5]

I was so happy when m2k finally stopped leffen, I knew it was going to happen but it still felt so satisfying.

[@TheCasualComplex]

Rolling through to revisit the history. Glad all these are intact

[@SickDuckers]

The match we've all been waiting for.

[@Nordanix]

Imagine what M2K could do if he actually only focused on Melee and practiced it ....

[@nategutekunst5188]

2007's level of dominance but adjusted to modern level of play.

[@EpicTogekiss]

***** nope

[@ajbksfinest]

Yeah him switch up games frequently is going to effect how he plays, at least he's top 5 in all of the games he plays

[@LockandLaugh]

Aj Irving "affect"

[@ace8656]

Ssdd

[@kirjian]

The rate at which Leffen is improving is both amazing and terrifying.

[@BornLosersGaming]

"He's the king for a reason" Oh man... If only they knew what was about to happen with Hbox...

[@erroneousdrunk]

1:00 that quick fair interrupting side-b, d-tilt grab ledge, back air. m2k special.

[@captainh4x]

at about 8:00, look at leffen's grab setups! Twice in a row he does full hop tomahawks to land behind M2K in his shield. Pretty smooth.

[@MissingnoWilder]

It's funny seeing Hbox cheer for Mew2king so hard. He knew if Leffen made it past Mew2king that his chances of winning the tournament were much lower.

[@sheeeebs]

The backthrow to up b made me scream out loud that day

[@Katalowins]

simply fantastic, probably the most lethal player in the world when he is on point

[@cmac5909]

Despite Mew2kings struggles, 13:40 is the reason why I am still a fan. That man is just unbelievable, and he does the coolest moves even when he loses. His Marth is just so much fun to watch.

[@OlAgony]

11:46 Mew2King having fun, looking and talking to Leffen after dying while Leffen is dead serious, puts a smile on my face xD

[@God001111]

looking back, this was way closer than I remembered

[@eathams]

I love watching Melee. There's so much skill involved in this game, rather than Smash 4- ResidentSleeper

[@cHaasWin]

I love m2k's marth, seriously impressive. Just his mix up combos seriously get me goin.

[@SendoPLUS]

First tournament I ever watched :)

[@MadSpace]

Same!

[@AzoraX0]

Yo Leffen, you're awesome, keeping the big 5 on their toes, keep doing what you love man

[@TheOnlyPersona]

I love watching M2Ks Marth nowadays because I recognize all of the options that he chooses and it's even more entertaining to watch. It also helps my marth get even better as I watch him because I see what options he chooses in every situation. M2K and PP need to do Marth dittos again

[@Devi_irl]

2:36 HBox realizing: "Oh yeah, i'm gunna have to face M2K later..."

[@Saturi]

13:45 best duo commentary of the whole video.

[@UncomfortableSilence]

I always wonder what the players are discussing with each other after the match.

[@johnnycage2323]

I called it!!! The only god Leffen can't stop, making these matches super hype!

[@nanaya1398]

I noticed at the beginning that M2K wasn't playing as well as he usually does. His movements weren't as flowing and he missed out on quite a few combos. But he started to show how much of a threat he is at the end

[@vanishing_girl]

m2k is still top 6 in the world now, but this tournament was like his last time he played this well. Watch his Marth vs Leffen/Mango at WTFox. It's still great but nowhere near this level, every grab here just leads to the flashiest combos, it's so beautiful to watch.

[@clouderorest4507]

Leffen is honestly pretty well known for having extremely bad combo DI compared to Mang0, Armada etc. And at wtfox M2K had recently gone through some tough times with his left finger being so swollen and hurt so bad he barely practiced before that tournament. I think he performed extremely well against Mang0, ad I have watched it plenty of times just because how good that set was

[@vanishing_girl]

yeah but he dropped so many combos and edgeguards he didn't drop here, he still was really good but he was fucking up in key moments. I know he has health issues, but the truth of the matter is he's not as good as he was here.

[@hexsahgon]

no

[@Lightningsnowstorm]

+Vseslav Botkin LOL M2K 6-0'd Leffen at PAX. 3-0 in winner's finals, another 3-0 in grand finals.

[@vanishing_girl]

well that happened after that comment lol, and you have to admit after Smash Con that was a surprising result

[@joelweber9900]

m2k's marth is on another level. truly incredible to watch.

[@machinescapes]

The playercam looks like how hungover they will be after the party later that night. They look so high lmao

[@allofthelightsbykanyewest]

The mark of a godlike commentator is reading a player like m2k midmatch let’s go d1 ❤️💖

[@GazelessStare]

Holy shit! What an ending. Awesome stuff by M2K. Btw who was on the grand finals?

[@Lugitaro]

That final stock is pure beauty.

[@derdian92]

1:39-1:47 for one of the sickest strings of the tournament

[@TheLastPrime38]

That side b to spike was absolutely disgusting

[@rpanda1360]

When mew2king is playing his utmost best I would say he could almost beat everyone depending on Some other factors

[@videolegau]

Leffen was the mastermind of evil in everithing, after 5-0 stocking and beating mango on a 1000 dollar bet, it had at least to be mew2king to beat him. M2k is an incredible funny, friendly looking person, he's just the best player for me now

[@dubudub876]

what are the inputs for mew2king's edge dance thingie at 8:42? looks simple but i cant figure out how to do it

[@Nipponing]

Daym that last game was amazing.

[@vernon121]

2020 Hype

[@maexvermillion5945]

I noticed Jason was messing up the L-Canceling on his Down Airs the first 3 games but he pulled It together game 4.

[@3three3three3three]

How did i forget how good m2k's punish game is?

[@Saturi]

6:22 no l-cancel down air from marth, no up smash punish?

[@gamemaster9210]

That last stock man, look how M2K smoothly escapes Leffen's shield pressure right before doing that final combo. You can't let up for even a moment because M2K will swiftly and mercilessly execute you.

[@ShaddoII]

Damn, my favorite "God" is Mango...but damn, M2K is absolutely incredible. Have to give it to Leffen though, he really did play amazingly.

[@231swift]

yea if definitely seen these before, was this uploaded somewhere else ? When was this live streaming ?

[@ThisIsWEB]

2 weeks ago

[@231swift]

ThisIsWEB thanks man, appreciate it

[@dungdaongoc]

If your reaction time is quick, then wouldn't counter move be too OP?

[@dungdaongoc]

But if i remember right then it's as strong as the attack it's countering. Therefore, would be useful against some slow attacks e.g link's down attack, kirby's hammer.

[@EpicTogekiss]

David Dao nope it would make it worse if the other has a good reaction time too..

[@VulpineShine]

David Dao nah, marth's counter in melee only does 7% with low knockback and too much endlag to combo off of. Plus it has 4 frames of startup, which isn't much, but you can't just react to another move with it; you have to predict it. Also if you miss it's a really bad. The one nice thing it does do is force spacies to tech-roll, so you get on the offensive, even if it's not a strict combo. It's especially good against Falco because he relies on his fantastic approach game and his grabs are poor, so most players won't use them as often as other characters.

[@dungdaongoc]

VulpineShine Actually his counter power is equal to the move he countered. So same damage and knockback.

[@VulpineShine]

not in melee

[@FesterGaming27]

Man leffen is just a scrumptious little boy

[@Fruitman1997]

I wish I could play my Marth even just a fraction like M2K. It's fascinating to watch.

[@kermillion17]

I just love seeing leffen get rekt in melee. Nobody likes him.

[@wyatt8062]

My favourite part about watching Leffen is his facial expressions while he plays.

[@awesomeguy2788]

Hbox >

[@thugangel301]

Hey guys, can anyone tell me why m2k does a bair at 4:00 after the f smash. Does it give him more horizontal momentum or did he just do it to turn himself around? Because he could have just forward jump and would have done the same thing. M2k is probably the only marth (that I've seen) that does that (alot). Any help?

[@snail15]

thugangel301 It was definitely done to turn him around so that he could follow up with that bair on the firefox off stage.

[@jamesdai1452]

were those last forward throws frame perfect?

[@TheUltimateNatural]

Does M2K fast fall his nairs?

[@fstcsvn]

Yes

[@TheErixox]

11:20 gotta love that marth combo

[@LotteryOfRunescape]

13:48 goes for fist pump DENIED

[@campusfrogs6487]

ThePaleRider it wasnt denied wtf are you talking aobut?

[@KG66610]

Flying Whale It was, then he shook his hand instead. You blind boy?

[@campusfrogs6487]

Badabooski thats not denied, that happens all the time when 1 person whats to shake hands and the other wants to fist pump, its just to avoid waste of time and avoid awkwardness

[@Edddy_S]

Can someone explain who Sky is? I see comments about him everywhere but I don't know who he is

[@emantv6343]

I am a Smash 4 competitive player trying to learn Melee competitively, do any of you guys have any tips about Marth? Also, I would like to know how you control in Melee competitive play. In Smash 4, I play with tap jump off and never use the C stick for aerials nor smash attacks. Since you can't change controls, do you people jump with the analog stick or do you use Y/X to jump? Do you guys use the C stick for aerials?

[@rowenapatricio3549]

How you use the controller is up to you, but I would recommend using X/Y to jump.

[@rowenapatricio3549]

Also, as a Marth main, I suggest you use forward air. It's nice in the nuetral game. Marth also has very nice edgeguarding tools. (down tilt, f-smash, back-air, etc.)

[@emantv6343]

Rowena Patricio Thanks man, also Marth is my main in Melee.

[@theoriginalrandomman]

Vinson Games using the c stick for aerials is useful when you want to control your momentum with the analog stick. It makes landing dair spikes way easier for example.

[@livelife5763]

You should be using the c stick for aerials. You can't bair while moving forward without it. Also, fair and fair are your bread and butter and grab combos are very strong. I started doing much better when I figured out that you should be landing a grab more than once in a game

[@MK3FAN99]

Holy shit!! KING of the MEWS!!!

[@novelgiani]

Does Mew2King play on 3DS as well? I faced a guy named Mew2King on for glory while I was practicing Olimar, so I'm just wonderin'

[@novelgiani]

I think it was a speedy character, possibly Captain Falcon

[@Martyr022]

EpicNightShades I doubt it. It's probably some impostor. Mew2king has stated on his Twitch Stream enough times that he rarely plays online because its more of a guessing game (due to lag) than it is actual reading. If he is playing online, its only with certain people.

[@novelgiani]

yeah, alright. I doubted it from the beginning, but I just wanted to make sure

[@CaptainKnee]

Haha that fcking side-b combo was amazing also taking leffen's double jump

[@OrchidEleven]

What is that red controller at the end? Japanese only or something?

[@lissettecelio4330]

That was the sickest finishing combo

[@Fruitkakke]

Whos the 5th god? Theres Armada, H-box, Mango, Mew2king and ?

[@xRongVangx]

PPMD

[@nategutekunst5188]

xRongVangx And I personally contest that somewhat because he is more or less semi-retired and only going to a handful of tourneys anymore, even if he's good enough to be considered a god.

[@SnaccHBG]

Bismo Funyuns The "gods" thing is more of a historical thing than anything. For years, those 5 lost only to each other, getting high placements every time. And they pretty much defined the meta for their mains.

[@ayrtonpavot3096]

Amazing set, love my M2K gameplay

[@thomascrumley6972]

Can someone explain to me Leffen's lightshield edge-gaurding tactic at 6:37?

[@AgateRF]

Late reply. It's called the Marth killer. If a Marth does an up special while you're light shielding at the ledge, you'll instantly fall back to the ledge to get a quick edge hog.

[@1up2275]

...are we not going to talk about 4:18? Cause... what even happened?

[@Greatermaxim]

What an epic fight especially the last battle between these two. I don't know them personally meaning I'll have to be impartial right now. I did write a story about the six.

[@JP_DR1]

Who were the 5 gods again? Hungrybox, mewtwo king, mango and who else ?

[@SalvLav]

PPMD and Armada

[@Delda2010]

Armada and PPMD

[@BoringRitzScapeStuff]

is that zhu in the crowd

[@michaelmasterish]

nossa mano,eu achei foda a interceptação dos kras,não deixa os kras voltarem na tela nem a pal

[@DoomJoy666]

Did this boy just add to the meta with that running reverse up b. All hail m2k's healed hand. All hail dr mario for bring m2ks doctor

[@mechaman5000]

This is like the WWE of Smash Bros Except the salt is real

[@tstsdrtsdrtsts]

and this shit ain't fake

[@Seank7]

Both fucking amazing players

[@ExilixE]

I feel like M2K is the one guy Leffen actually respects. I hear about Leffen talkin trash all the time to other players but I don't really hear that for M2K. But I could be wrong, I wouldn't really know..

[@sebastianespinoza1254]

Leffen has less douche in him now guys relax. He even supported Hax when he got hand problems telling him to get well soon and that he will be up and running with rest. And Leffen now wrecks everyone

[@BrickNGames]

Sebastian Espinoza rip iwata

[@BrickNGames]

Sebastian Espinoza I thought hax lied about that and has insomnia?

[@livelife5763]

+BrickNGames he lied and can't sleep? Don't see why insomnia is a bad thing

[@zackolot]

+DowhopZigZagJelloPopRudyZiggetyZaggity Puddin Because he gets literally 0 sleep before big tournaments. Also, he didn't lie about his hands, those are also an issue.

[@livelife5763]

zackolot i know it makes it hard to ply well. I was just saying, because he has insomnia and MIGHT have lied, doesnt make him less of a person. When i said its not a bad thing, i meant bad as in him being a bad person, not bad for performance/health reasons. I think i might have wrongfully assumed the gent above me was somewhat bashing him so i was defending hax

[@Clarinet69]

I miss this...

[@BasedSif]

can someone tell me who the other commentator is that's not D1?

[@davjags]

TKBreezy

[@kalmonsalmon1946]

Is it me or does every matchup include amrth, fox or sheik in SSBM? it's getting boring.

[@Supernova-yy2oz]

What do those players talk about in between games?

[@DecrepitFlunky]

Supernova Gaming stage bans

[@thegoodgeneral]

their favorite Seinfeld episodes

[@fullmetalmars8571]

Bro... wtf happened at 4:20

[@Banquet_]

Mew2Kings hairline at high noon

[@SuperBeanerStudios]

Wait so why does everyone hate Leffen?

[@machitoons]

The trashtalker with perfect game against the god of everything AKA king of the universe AKA lol m2k

[@MinecrafterK3N]

+mew2kaiser Leffen vs KOTU XD

[@fangiscool1]

You know you're unpopular when the crowd screams for M2K over you.

[@Oakwin_mb]

joshua barnes People like M2K. Now if they cheer for Hungrybox, then you know.

[@hyrulianeffery]

Derek Quin lol so true, although i actually like HB

[@Oakwin_mb]

hyrulianeffery I love Hbox, but older players usually don't.

[@fangiscool1]

Derek Quin Hungrybox is the man. One of the only top smashers with a life plan after his Smash days are over. They hate on his old Jigs gimicks.

[@clayvision]

fangiscool1 ^this Hbox is a gentleman and a scholar

[@ivanbardonado]

m2k is like the final boss

[@CrayonsAreTastey]

Woa.. Woa... Woa.. Screw the video watch the end combo thats overkill

[@johnleemcmulln2168]

13:51 destruction