THE BIG LIE -- Nutbusting / Breakaway Torque (What is it?) - Impact Wrench Torque Ratings

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@CK-jd7wo-test
@CK-jd7wo-test 7 жыл бұрын
This guy knows what he is torquing about.
@RealToolReviews
@RealToolReviews 7 жыл бұрын
Hahaha nice :)
@bEEBO178
@bEEBO178 3 жыл бұрын
Genius!
@NaluRash
@NaluRash 8 жыл бұрын
This is the most research about "Nut Busting" I've ever seen! I'm 12
@bishop5166
@bishop5166 7 жыл бұрын
my most research of nut busting I've done was when I was a kid and my foot slipped off the bike pedal....lol
@lillao1
@lillao1 7 жыл бұрын
LOL. SO TRUE. *tears*
@ZeroBlackfire
@ZeroBlackfire 7 жыл бұрын
the most research ive had with "nut busting" involved a skateboard and a rail.....
@chrisbranch231
@chrisbranch231 5 жыл бұрын
Busting nuts makes you feel so good😋 but it feels even better when you're doing it with powerful tool
@GX--X01
@GX--X01 4 жыл бұрын
I'm 11 so stfu. Meme
@btrswt35
@btrswt35 8 жыл бұрын
This is going to piss off some marketing VP at Milwaukee! Appreciate the honesty!
@andrewford80
@andrewford80 7 жыл бұрын
David Mm marketing people deserve to be pissed off. Bill hicks said it best.
@chaseholt6789
@chaseholt6789 6 жыл бұрын
TTI Inc is a Hong Kong based company that owns Milwaukee, Ridgid and Ryobi. Just like Stanley Black & Decker owns DeWalt, Mac tools, Irwin and proto, etc.
@rohitbhatnagar7599
@rohitbhatnagar7599 2 жыл бұрын
Consumers are not supposed to b pissed if Milwaukee gets away with many customer buy product on misleading info, but we are not supposed to pissed at them for giving us this info?
@JonDisnard
@JonDisnard 8 жыл бұрын
This is perhaps your best video. Constructively speaking this video was amazingly technical. The video was short, succinct, and to the point. You went into an unexplored realm of tools stuff (breakaway) that nobody else has, and provided great research. The thermal imaging was over the top. Bravo!
@RealToolReviews
@RealToolReviews 8 жыл бұрын
I'm always trying to improve.....moving into facts & removing opinions......I am glad you liked it! Thanks Jon!
@Mysongordon
@Mysongordon 8 жыл бұрын
For a damn sure Milwaukee would never explain their torque rating the way you just did, And thank god for the real tool reviews channel.
@samhan7048
@samhan7048 8 жыл бұрын
Hey I went and bought that milwaukee impact wrench from watching one of your video. Best investment I ever made. Thanks.
@burnerjack01
@burnerjack01 8 жыл бұрын
Once again, your video is so methodical, so scientific, you make other tool reviews look silly. One possible downside is the testing is somewhat one dimensional, that is, the tests are conducted on tool output only. No testing for, say durability,etc. No complaints from me, as I am basing my decision on the tool's capability. I expect them all to be reasonably durable, comfortable, etc. Once again, GREAT job.
@JonathanStrong
@JonathanStrong 5 жыл бұрын
I realizing I'm adding this comment about 2.5 years after you published this video - but it's excellent, as are all your others I've watched so far. You really add a level of thoughtful methodology and analysis that's incredibly rare across the field of those who publish reviews and "tests" of various tools. I really appreciate this. I landed here tonight as I continue to round out my tools collection. I've got a few Ryobi One+ tools (brushed, from a combo set I got about 4 years ago) and have made extensive use of them. I hesitated going to a second battery system, but when I needed a good double bevel sliding compound miter, I snagged a great deal on a Maxita 36v LXT X2 saw that's brilliant -- no regrets, and I just added their rear-handle 7-1/4" 36v LXT X2 circular saw as well -- also excellent. So - I've had two battery / tool ecosystems (One+ and LXT), and will stick within those for the foreseeable future. After reading numerous reviews and trying different impact drivers, I just got a Makita XDT16z, and it's fantastic. But now as I consider adding an impact wrench for bigger loads, the choices get muddier. And THAT is why I wound up here. Tools like Makita's XWT11 impact wrench don't - on paper at least - look that much more powerful than the XDT16 impact driver. Their XWT08 is a lot more powerful at 740+ ft lbs -- but it's also 5 lbs heavier, and I'm not sure I'll ever really need that level of torque. Most likely the more challenging uses of an impact driver / wrench will be putting in 1/2" lag screws, LedgerLok's, through-bolts, etc. when rebuilding my deck and tackling similar work. Ryobi's most powerful impact wrench (one of two I think?) is claimed to put out 300 ft lbs - and it's a 4 or 5 year old brushed model, and is bigger and clunkier than the XWT11. Makita's "mid torque" models are 5 year old designs that are also big and clunky it seems. Unfortunately for me, it currently looks like the most eligible "mid torque" lightweight impact wrenches come from DeWalt, or from Ridgid (they just released a nice one that's light, and is rated at 450 ft lbs I believe). In the end, I'm trying to decide: 1) if the XWT11 adds meaningful torque beyond what the XDT16 puts out, and 2) whether the XWT11 is sufficient, or if it really does make more sense to deal with the bigger, heavier, XST08. If you're read this far - thanks! Long winded, but now you know what I'm trying to work out. Any thoughts on this most appreciated. Thanks!
@TheJohn8765
@TheJohn8765 8 жыл бұрын
I'm so tired of "marketing wank". I'm also glad there's guys like you out there.
@mattbrennan8088
@mattbrennan8088 7 жыл бұрын
I love the way you test these things. I can never get a straight answer from anyone on "nutbusting torque", most just say that its the first burst of an impact when you pull the trigger. So glad I got and answer on it. Thanks!
@RealToolReviews
@RealToolReviews 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah....it is hard for people to repeat a lie, especially when no one knows what the lie really means ;). Glad I could help!
@jimphillips8105
@jimphillips8105 6 жыл бұрын
I almost never comment on videos, but thank you so much for videos like this one: I'm someone who appreciates the science involved and the practical explanations.
@FuriousHondaBoy
@FuriousHondaBoy 3 жыл бұрын
This is very good explanation what is "torque busting", thanks
@mr.nobody9630
@mr.nobody9630 7 жыл бұрын
Your testing methods are truly a work of true science separating facts v. fiction under 12 minutes video. Mr. they are so beautiful in fact that almost make me cry. A job was well done, A + Rating for this video
@E_Jay10
@E_Jay10 8 жыл бұрын
as a son of a man who's been working on cars longer than I've been alive. His advice for getting stuck or rusted bolts off is heat which I can't say doesn't work. but my understanding of physics has also taught me that heat causes matter to expand. meaning heat should cause cause a nut to expand around the threads of a bolt causing higher pressure. just my abstract thinking. but another great video. reminds me why I've been subscribed for as long as I have!
@kennethgrimes5494
@kennethgrimes5494 7 жыл бұрын
Jon just purchased the millwauki red lithium ion half inch impact gun...Thanks for the info you just broke my heart.....
@2011joser
@2011joser 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this. You are doing a great service for consumers. Harbor Freight almost got me with that breakaway torque on their new Bauer corded impact.
@nateisgreat8
@nateisgreat8 5 жыл бұрын
What'd you end up going with?
@honcho1775
@honcho1775 8 жыл бұрын
I found your channel by chance. I just had to say after watching a few of your videos, you put together some very good quality videos. Your camera angles and resolution are great. Audio quality is nice and fairly level and not too extreme to one end or the other. On top of that you talk nice and clearly so you are very understandable. On top of that you appear very knowledgeable and confident on your topics. Very well done sir. Best of luck to you and, thank you for some of your knowledge.
@johnlong5899
@johnlong5899 8 жыл бұрын
Companies do the same with electric tools. When they say 1 horsepower, they really mean the tool draws 746 watts from your electrical outlet but the tool really makes 3/4 horsepower. The remaining horsepower is heat blown out the cooling slots. As far as impacts are concerned, I've always taken nut busting (dynamic) torque verses working torque the way you demonstrate. Because I most often use an impact for tear down and rarely for tightening or snugging a fastener down for that matter, it's the kind of number that means something to me. If it takes 30 seconds for the dynamic torque to break a fastener free, I'm cool with that.
@t5jerry
@t5jerry 8 жыл бұрын
i know i have criticised your methods in the past, but i have to admit, you certainly test things properly and when i want a "proper" review on a product, i ALWAYS go to your page to see if you have tested it, in my books, your no.1 for reviews, keep up the great work !!!!!
@wildgoose6596
@wildgoose6596 8 жыл бұрын
I don't think this debunked the marketing numbers as others have suggested. I get that the bolt was warm, but it was torqued to 1100 ft-lb while warm, and removed while warm. It did in fact remove a 1100 ft-lb nut. And you nearly achieved the 1100 ft-lb fastening torque in previous testing with the be reverse threaded nut. The numbers seemed to have been proven by your testing. Great video, and your reviews are among the best!
@RealToolReviews
@RealToolReviews 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks! The point was to show the deceptiveness of marketing claims.....in real life the "Nut Busting" torque specs are 100% worthless.
@wildgoose6596
@wildgoose6596 8 жыл бұрын
Real Tool Reviews agreed, I have never come across a newly lubed bolt I couldn't get off! lol. However, the nut busting torque does.provive some relative scale of the tools performance. A horror freight tool for example rated at 300 ft-lb vs. the Milwaukee rated at 1100 still tells you the Milwaukee has nearly 4 times the torque. And in a real life application the Milwaukee is about 4 times more likely to be able get that stubborn nut off.
@phammaster
@phammaster 7 жыл бұрын
I've looked everywhere, I cannot find a video of you performing DYNAMIC TORQUE rating test on the Ingersoll w7150. I just purchased one with (2) 5.0ah battery. Please do a comparison video with the new results. Dynamic torque Ingersoll Rand w7150 : ?? Makita XWT08 : ?? Snap On CT8850 : 526 ft lbs fwd, 486 ft lbs reverse Dewalt DCF899 : 411 ft lbs fwd, 418 ft lbs reverse Milwaukee M18 FUEL 2763 : 421 ft lbs fwd, 415 ft lbs reverse
@bbkmm1
@bbkmm1 8 жыл бұрын
I am glad you said "immediately". Because removal torque is actually more than installation torque over time. This is not just temperature, but also corrosion and deformation of bolt/nut into each other under stress. This is how the situation most people encounter.
@RealToolReviews
@RealToolReviews 8 жыл бұрын
I agree.....that is specifically why I explained it that way. Thanks for pointing it out --- yes, for MOST fasteners, removal torque is almost always more than installation torque.
@bbkmm1
@bbkmm1 8 жыл бұрын
Real Tool Reviews Thank you for the data based analysis on these tools.
@MacDafox
@MacDafox 7 жыл бұрын
Factual and explained in an educational way so even people who doesn´t speak english as their first language,will understand. -Nice work!!
@Godzilla2k69
@Godzilla2k69 4 жыл бұрын
This is a phenomenal video. I've never seen this "marketing hype" described and properly characterized. You did it. I'm wondering, does your test setup have any type of analog voltage output ? It would be informative to record that information on a digital storage oscilloscope to see the torque change dynamically as the impactor slaps against the stops. Again, excellent video. Educational. Informative. And highly entertaining. A+.
@alittlebitofeverything5090
@alittlebitofeverything5090 8 жыл бұрын
Very good video! I want one. I've noticed when I use my air driven impact gun I can get more torque out of it if I hold it loosely with one hand. It seems if you hold it tight or with two hands, your body absorbs some of the torque.
@50sKid
@50sKid 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for all your videos. I would love it if you could review some 3/8" 18v electric impact wrenches in the future. Perhaps test their torque output. Milwaukee, dewalt, etc.
@truckerpeterose
@truckerpeterose 5 жыл бұрын
You’ve invested so much to deliver these videos to us. Why are you not producing videos regularly anymore? 3,4,5 and even 8,9 months between videos now. You are my personal favorite on YT and probably the best on this platform. Please please get back to doing videos sir. 👍🏻
@MrSupernova111
@MrSupernova111 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative! I know this video is a littler old now but still relevant. I was debating between a Stubby with 250 ft lbs of torque or a mid torque with 600 ft lbs of torque and decided that since this tool will be for DIY car projects I want the more powerful gun to help me remove those bigger and tougher bolts like in suspensions. The Stubby looks awesome but my concern is that the advertised torque won't mean anything once I try to remove a rusted suspension bolt. Thanks!
@tonymarcus4276
@tonymarcus4276 2 жыл бұрын
I've had the same snap on impact gun for 8 years now and used daily. Wouldn't turn back unless I get ahold of an old school snapon gun. Hits way harder for removing nuts and bolts.
@srmcgaha
@srmcgaha 7 жыл бұрын
Great video on showing what the industry terms are really saying. My only gripe, I think it would have been good to show the Milwaukee loosen the nut once it cooled down to see if it could do it or not.
@RealToolReviews
@RealToolReviews 7 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately you cannot leave a Skidmore under extreme pressure for long periods of time or the seals will prematurely fail.
@milesmetcalfe94
@milesmetcalfe94 8 жыл бұрын
congratulations, you just won yourself a subscriber!!
@RealToolReviews
@RealToolReviews 8 жыл бұрын
Hot dog!
@yesac101
@yesac101 8 жыл бұрын
can you do the 2763 with the 9.0ah battery
@tekoa.9450
@tekoa.9450 5 жыл бұрын
Same here!
@adytssu
@adytssu 4 жыл бұрын
same here!
@Sycoholic
@Sycoholic 7 жыл бұрын
great video. Just bought the MATCO impact, rated at 1300ft lbs nut busting torque. I was more focused on the 700 is rated for continuous. Figured there was smoke and mirrors behind the fancy wording and now I know.
@platinumlawnservice
@platinumlawnservice 7 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I noticed your 2c Idaho plate in the background. Idahos plates are identified by an abbreviation such as 1a 2c etc. The one you own is 2c which is Caribou county Idaho. Northwest of boise around the Oregon border. Just thought you maybe had wondered. I live in Idaho. Your welcome and thanks for the great videos
@Megadriver
@Megadriver 8 жыл бұрын
Great video. Technical, informative and no filler. Saw a few more of your videos. It's hard to find a good, unbiased tool review. You my friend got a subscriber.
@EndUser-yu7gg
@EndUser-yu7gg 7 жыл бұрын
Love how you break this down and though I don't think I will ever have to deal with a bolt at the rating you used.... I"d have to search to find out what bolt could possibly ever be on that tight that is not part of a massive engineering marvel...
@RealToolReviews
@RealToolReviews 7 жыл бұрын
Structural bolts (Bridges/Steel Buildings...)
@EndUser-yu7gg
@EndUser-yu7gg 7 жыл бұрын
...not exactly something us regular folks would be building in our back yard.... well maybe a tornado shelter or underground bunker =)
@cardo1111
@cardo1111 5 жыл бұрын
Great insights into the tested tools, that are well presented. Thanks for your vids!
@jaye2865
@jaye2865 8 жыл бұрын
Very impressive and informative review. I've always enjoyed your videos but they just keep getting better.
@electric8668
@electric8668 6 жыл бұрын
I feel like I just took a class, a very good one.
@Clickbaiters
@Clickbaiters 8 жыл бұрын
Why go through all this EXCELLENT testing yet not try removing the nut when it's completely cooled off as a final test? That would absolutely legitimize this video beyond what it already is...heck, you even mention you have doubts it could happen at the end of the video. Missed opportunity to have this all in the same video. Truths like this hurt companies and will get you blacklisted from receiving free gear. Fakers like "tools in action" would never do something like this other than the typical 'slap on the wrist' comment about something they don't like about a product. Great job!
@RealToolReviews
@RealToolReviews 8 жыл бұрын
+xXG.L.HXx I cannot leave the skidmore "loaded" under extreme pressures for extended periods of time, or it will damage it. The gauge & hydraulic seals are only designed for temporary pressure for long-term reliability of the unit. I'm glad that you liked the vid....I try to do the best that I can.
@JonDisnard
@JonDisnard 8 жыл бұрын
The testing is excellent. But the whole matrix of test you propose is unreasonable. Go ahead and get your self a set of Skidmore wilhelm instruments
@ITubeTooInc
@ITubeTooInc 8 жыл бұрын
You can use some freeze spray to quickly cool it down.
@HimmelWeint
@HimmelWeint 8 жыл бұрын
That may damage his precision machine. That said the impact wrench should still be able to remove the nut or bolt, however, it would take a longer time if it was cooled down as the nut or bolt will heat up as you impact it.
@juz1ish
@juz1ish 7 жыл бұрын
xXG.L.HXx U Butt hurt or something.
@brendanhayes2752
@brendanhayes2752 3 жыл бұрын
Great presentation and explanation of the data.
@brandonpenrod7433
@brandonpenrod7433 8 жыл бұрын
Nice info, but still love the 2763. Having come across a lugnut i couldn't get off, or a rusted CV bolt.
@joethecollector
@joethecollector 8 жыл бұрын
I've got the same one 2763 I couldn't agree with you more
@johnjaeger7928
@johnjaeger7928 8 жыл бұрын
joethecollector
@scottlawder7617
@scottlawder7617 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed. A guy in a technical dept of one of the good quality impact wrench companies told me I should just get one of these because you have to have a really good/expensive air compressor to get their guns to work well. I bought a small HVAC oxy-acetylene set up at Lowes also for the bolts these don't take out. I live in a northern snow rust climate and this Milwaukee has done the job on rusted brakes bolts, struts, and the torch worked for the few that it hasn't (maybe three).
@JohnKaufmann
@JohnKaufmann 8 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. You are my first choice for tool reviews.
@vitaminb4869
@vitaminb4869 8 жыл бұрын
I once did a noob mistake and overtightened lug bolts on a car with the same Milwaukee impact by hammering each about 2-3 seconds. I immediately realized I've made a mistake and tried to loosen them with the impact. They did not even budge!! I had to use a 3 foot breaker bar to loosen them, and stripped the head of one bolt in the process. I have little faith now in the Milwaukee impact for anything serious.
@bubblegump5410
@bubblegump5410 8 жыл бұрын
so it worked too good and got it to tight and you are bad mouthing it?
@justind6039
@justind6039 8 жыл бұрын
I believe what he's getting at is your reverse torque should ALWAYS be higher then your forward torque for that exact reason.
@vitaminb4869
@vitaminb4869 8 жыл бұрын
Paul Friend, I'm not bad mouthing anything. I was just surprised it was unable to loosen the same bolt it tightened just moments ago. Moreover, a 3 foot long breaker bar which probably put out 300 ft-lbs torque tops got it off.
@TrevorGoodchild999
@TrevorGoodchild999 8 жыл бұрын
That doesnt make sense, impact wrenches always deliver higher torque in reverse, most probably you damaged the bolt and it got stuck; I actually did the same thing with my Milwaukee 2763 and the result was the nut stripped a little
@cajadeherramientasmx
@cajadeherramientasmx 8 жыл бұрын
You make a great job Daniel, thanks and congrats
@boydtsosie7140
@boydtsosie7140 8 жыл бұрын
like the depth you went into with this video. learn something new everyday
@davidthecardcollector
@davidthecardcollector 6 жыл бұрын
I have the Milwaukee 1400 lb model and no way is it that strong. If it was I would not need a 3/4 drive impact. I torqued a lug nut to 800 lb and it broke it lose but struggled. I can tighten them to about 500-550lbs but it was not consistent.
@marvelousfanccino6110
@marvelousfanccino6110 7 жыл бұрын
And a commercial from dewalt highlighting their cordless "nut busting" torque tools plays before the video. Hahaha classic. Great video brother.
@RealToolReviews
@RealToolReviews 7 жыл бұрын
Haha nice :)
@r5cpt
@r5cpt 5 жыл бұрын
A fine video, but how did you NOT try the same with cold threads? That seems like a very obvious experiment to perform. Huh...?!
@RealToolReviews
@RealToolReviews 5 жыл бұрын
Simple. This is a hydraulic test unit & the manufacturer specifically states that you cannot leave it under load for long term or it can damage the unit. I am not damaging my test unit in order to appease the small minority who don’t like the test methods.
@InTheZone85
@InTheZone85 5 жыл бұрын
@@RealToolReviews you could run it the same time you did in the vid and note how nothing budged.
@javaman2883
@javaman2883 4 жыл бұрын
Just a few seconds with a torch and your cold bolt will be hot and ready to come off. Gee, where have I heard that before
@Dale37
@Dale37 5 жыл бұрын
I never believe corporate hype and always wondered how they got those figures. Now I know thanks to you. With that said I still like the convenience of my cordless impact drivers and wrenches.
@RealToolReviews
@RealToolReviews 5 жыл бұрын
They lie, that’s how they do it!
@badger0888
@badger0888 7 жыл бұрын
Another Great Video. Thank you. You've demystify the marketing ploys out there. Measured numbers will tell the real story.
@TrollinCrazyRussian
@TrollinCrazyRussian 5 жыл бұрын
This is one of many reasons I'm subscriber (all other reasons are all your other videos)!
@TrollinCrazyRussian
@TrollinCrazyRussian 5 жыл бұрын
Not that I'm not smart enough to not already know what exactly is breakaway number claim.
@StephenCunningham1
@StephenCunningham1 8 жыл бұрын
Great video. Do you have a list to compare every wrench you have tested side by side? Is there one that stands out? The new metabos look promising.
@derpie2000
@derpie2000 8 жыл бұрын
A real eye opener for sure thanks for letting us all see the deceptive practices they institute.
@kILLuMBuS
@kILLuMBuS 7 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I found this channel
@maalouftony5269
@maalouftony5269 Жыл бұрын
Very informative video , but i think milwaukee measured the torque using the 12 anp battery which gives you way much higher torque than the 5.0 can
@jewllake
@jewllake 8 жыл бұрын
You're great man! Very good technical videos!!!!
@jensonkeyes1144
@jensonkeyes1144 7 жыл бұрын
Great Vid! I sure would like to see this M18 1/2" against the Kobalt 24V max 1/2" or at least a similar vid on the Kobalt
@rudybonilla9271
@rudybonilla9271 6 жыл бұрын
Hi that is very interesting. Could you please post a video of the nut tightened down to 1100 foot pounds and let it sit and cool back down to its normal temperature and see how the Milwaukee does. I think a lot of people would like to see that thank you
@wrenchtheroo6557
@wrenchtheroo6557 5 жыл бұрын
I bought the 2767 wich outputs 1400 lb-ft of torque and i have a mac air impact also advertised 1400 lb-ft, it was not a scientific test but with a m16 bolt and nut, it was quite similar, both in tightning and loosening but the mac had the advantage of speed.
@RealToolReviews
@RealToolReviews 5 жыл бұрын
Milwaukee Tool marketers are legends in their own minds....
@rmelgoza5532
@rmelgoza5532 4 жыл бұрын
I'm just curious after explaining and demonstrating this throughly why wouldn't you show us if it could or couldn't remove the nut after it cooled? I see you proved your point but again would've been interesting to see after it cooled. Thanks for the video.
@RealToolReviews
@RealToolReviews 4 жыл бұрын
The test unit is a hydraulic load cell..... it cannot remain under pressure for extended periods of time (per manufacturer) or will suffer damage.
@kevinkonkel1790
@kevinkonkel1790 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video and explanation on how they get these numbers.
@RealToolReviews
@RealToolReviews 8 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it Kevin...thanks!
@singlecams
@singlecams 8 жыл бұрын
very educational RTR!
@RealToolReviews
@RealToolReviews 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@inox1ck
@inox1ck 6 жыл бұрын
I was wondering about the required torque for removing the nut that was tightened up to 1100ft lbs. Is it still around this value 1100?
@thebunz7
@thebunz7 3 ай бұрын
Why didn't you try to test removing it prior to heating it up and greasing it showing a control?
@dgott7726
@dgott7726 4 жыл бұрын
Need a review of the Milwaukee 2863 Onekey....The Onekey settings are confusing & they don't tell you what each setting means in terms of torque. (I understand each socket/extension/bolt/nut combo changes things... but they don't even attempt to provide a baseline)
@d.e.b.b5788
@d.e.b.b5788 7 жыл бұрын
He sounds like Sheldon Cooper's older brother.
@TheMadMagician87
@TheMadMagician87 3 жыл бұрын
Love your anti-bullshit and investigative approach. Subbed!
@vw_mods_4711
@vw_mods_4711 6 жыл бұрын
Decent review and testing. I brought the mid torque to work on my van etc and today found it could not undo the bolts to the road wheels torqued to 160nm when cold. But the day I got it, I undone them, but I had been on an hours drive so I guess like you say it has more ability when the nuts are warm. Disappointing from a gun that claimed 610nm on the box 📦🤔
@barrykery1175
@barrykery1175 4 жыл бұрын
That was very interesting. I questioned the breaking loose torque of my Kobalt 24 volt 1/2" impact wrench. Now I know how loosening torque can be higher than tightening torque. If you would have not shown me, I would not have believed it. Which means, I did not believe what Kobalt was telling me in the specs. Barry G. Kery
@adventureman9751
@adventureman9751 Жыл бұрын
Great Info mate! Very methodical!
@danielwarren6845
@danielwarren6845 5 жыл бұрын
With all that In mind, can we assume that all manufacturers will use similar testing to get the max numbers out of their tool. So in theory, the figures may not be realistic but we can still judge which tool is more powerful?
@RealToolReviews
@RealToolReviews 5 жыл бұрын
Chicago Pneumatic is the most realistic when it comes to torque specs. M7 is the #1 BSer....Milwaukee is #2
@LKN4WAR
@LKN4WAR 7 жыл бұрын
85-90 degrees is extremely hot? Versus 72. A parked car in summer time would have a lot more heat than that. At least in southwest US. It seems like there should be a standard torque standard as far as temp goes. Like barometric pressure has.
@InCountry6970
@InCountry6970 6 жыл бұрын
I never calculated the actual measurement, but my ex-wife was a huge nut buster too. Nice video, thanks
@TheRoostersGarage
@TheRoostersGarage 8 жыл бұрын
Very informative video! I am looking into getting my own pneumatic impact and have come across this term but their number didn't add up. Because of you I know why.
@RealToolReviews
@RealToolReviews 8 жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@PBS-nm1uu
@PBS-nm1uu 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for the info, please keep them coming,, this was really great.
@johnlandis6434
@johnlandis6434 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Real Tool Reveiws miss you making videos!
@RealToolReviews
@RealToolReviews 6 жыл бұрын
More coming soon....stay tuned!
@Fee.1
@Fee.1 4 жыл бұрын
Question, why do many of these impact wrenches also achieve these numbers when the bolt is tightened by hand first?
@mendivil71
@mendivil71 8 жыл бұрын
Please test the Snap on CT8850, I own it and the Milwaukee Fuel and they both seem even in real world use.
@g6qwerty
@g6qwerty 8 жыл бұрын
What about harmonics? if you hit the right frequency freeing rusted nuts and bolts might be easier, or cause the materials to vibrate and thus reduce torque required.
@jamesyarch5336
@jamesyarch5336 6 жыл бұрын
Is there an ASTM test procedure that they could be referencing for the advertised results? As you have demonstrated, test results are easy to manipulate.
@RealToolReviews
@RealToolReviews 6 жыл бұрын
No. Zero uniformity in tests between manufacturers. Most #s are total BS!
@kvernesdotten
@kvernesdotten 3 жыл бұрын
Not expecting any response as this is several years old, but just saw it for the first time :) How come there is no test that show it can NOT remove the 1100 ft lbs bolt when its cold? If only showing that it can remove a bolt tighter than what itself can produce, that just confirms the marketing that it has higher break-away torque than fastening torque? Also would love to know how significant the heat buildup is, seeing as one of the most common tricks for tough nuts and bolts is to externally heat them up. If the wrench itself can heat up a bolt enough that it becomes easier to remove (seen bolts become untouchable after using an impact wrench on them), then that should be counted in as the work it does, right? Im not expert in this at all, if there is something I dont understand here, please enlighten me
@waynesmith6522
@waynesmith6522 4 жыл бұрын
So why didn't you clean the treads and nut, let it cool then do the same test at the end ?
@stevew3978
@stevew3978 5 жыл бұрын
So would it be correct to interpret the actual maximum reverse working torque of 1036 ft-lbs as the measured maximum "nut busting torque" for this wrench?
@MegaStamandster
@MegaStamandster 8 жыл бұрын
cant wait to see the dynamic torque on the rest of those guns!
@jheissjr
@jheissjr 8 жыл бұрын
Can I place a request/suggestion? Can you measure the nutbusting torque of a Nitrocat 1200k using the second method in the video? That is, removing a nut tightened to a known torque.
@LKN4WAR
@LKN4WAR 7 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tested that small digital Matco torque adapter head? To use on any ratchet or breaker bar, effectively allowing them to be used as a tq wrench. Wondering what the accuracy of that head would be vs a full dedicated wrench. CTA250 part number I think.
@ronaldjacobs8561
@ronaldjacobs8561 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for dispelling the myths
@62shalaka
@62shalaka 8 жыл бұрын
Another great video! Thanks for explaining the marketing jargon.
@xzaviar1965
@xzaviar1965 5 жыл бұрын
You may have covered this somewhere but... Does the size of the socket affect the amount of torque a given impact wrench can deliver? Or, is any given impact wrench able to yield greater torque to a 3/4" nut then to a 1-1/4" nut?
@RealToolReviews
@RealToolReviews 5 жыл бұрын
Where you are limited is the yield point of the fastener....basically the bolt will begin to stretch and/or the threads rip off after a certain point. As far as physical socket size.....the heavier the socket, the more torque by definition will be applied due to added mass (flywheel effect). But for most uses this would not be noticeable.
@my2cents108
@my2cents108 7 жыл бұрын
What's your opinion on Harbor Freight's Earthquake 1/2 20V 63537? I'm a DIYer who only does occasional car repair, and has no room for a compressor.
@wyattoneable
@wyattoneable 8 жыл бұрын
I appreciate this series, it's been very helpful in my quest to pick out my next impact wrench. I'm glad you spent some money! (Ha Ha)
@angelisone
@angelisone 8 жыл бұрын
What is the max reverse torque on IR W7150? Thank you for taking your time out to show us.
@RealToolReviews
@RealToolReviews 8 жыл бұрын
I have another vid comparing the M18 - IR - Dewalt.....I did reverse torque testing in that if you want to check it out. Thanks!
@tomdontmatter6839
@tomdontmatter6839 7 жыл бұрын
Great review. Thanks for your time and effort.
@BuiltByN8
@BuiltByN8 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. I'm in the market for a 1/2" impact and was wondering where the high nut busting numbers came from. So they pretty much don't mean anything.
@RealToolReviews
@RealToolReviews 8 жыл бұрын
Well......marketing depts have to keep coming up with new reasons for you to spend your money.....maybe one of the employees picked it up in a seminar. NEVER trust manufacturer specs.....they are almost always lies. (Even dimensions & weights!) I check everything......most tools don't come close.
@willclemons6846
@willclemons6846 7 жыл бұрын
Did alot of reasearch replacing my 1/2 impact. Your breakdown videos helped me along with a great price. I ended up getting the 2763. Q: Where do I get the boot for it?
@rimmersbryggeri
@rimmersbryggeri 7 жыл бұрын
Impacts are measured in joules though? While the rotational torque is another number.
@elgordopamisamigos1254
@elgordopamisamigos1254 8 жыл бұрын
as usual....so much good info in your videos....lots of details....thanks
@Farmeredd
@Farmeredd 8 жыл бұрын
great video I have the makita 3/4 driver dtw1001 could you do the same testing on the tool.
@Seveneleven44
@Seveneleven44 4 жыл бұрын
I have this impact. I love it. I laugh when I think that Milwaukee thinks that we actually believe this wrench can output 1800lb ft of torque. I find that anecdotal evidence that is probably in a controlled environment. I will say that if you don’t have a good hold on the 1” gun you are gonna break your wrists. They both have a lot of power but it’s hard to see those numbers.
@counkev
@counkev 7 жыл бұрын
Could you please test the Harbor Freight 20V Max Lithium 1/2 in. Cordless Xtreme Torque Impact Wrench? It claims 1200 ft. lbs of torque. I knew they would fabricate tests that would give them the "max" number possible but would like real world torque numbers to compare with your other tools you tested.
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