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[@suitbanter1851]

The missile "jumping" before firing off is called cold launching. You guessed correctly, the missiles are launched through gas (the gas isn't actually in the missiles, it's through a gas chamber below the missile itself.) One of the benefits of cold launching over hot launching (the rocket engine activating within the vertical launch tube) is in the event of a launch and the missile engine malfunctions, they can eject the missile to avoid it exploding inside.

[@nicazer]

Another benefit of cold launching is having a smaller effect on the radar equipment. Hot launching that close to the radar reciever can mess with with the incoming data and possibly lose the lock if the missile is slaved to the vehicle's radar

[@matthewdukes3207]

Not to mention the fact that an object at rest tends to stay at rest. The most inefficient part of any rocket launch is imparting that initial velocity, so if the rocket's already moving when the engine ignites, it wastes less propellant.

[@nmspy]

I dont think itd be too different, the initial momentum is upward, the rocket motor would still need to use as much energy to get it into motion, especially considering the TOR missile weight

[@yurikostenko4110]

And I should note that this is a fairly popular launch method in Russian missile systems. It is used in most anti-air missiles, in ICBMs, in different sea-based missiles and so on.

[@90enemies]

It also makes reusing the launch tube a lot cheaper and easier because you dont even need to maintain it often unlike Hot Launch.

[@Banjax007]

“The missile knows where it is because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is, the system commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. The position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't.”

[@javaboii8118]

hahahaha, i instantly thought of this when Phly started saying:" The missle knows.."

[@eddyapimenteldelrosario601]

I KNEW SOMEONE WAS GOING TO SAY THIS

[@dustinlackey4250]

I gave myself a stroke reading this

[@rayotoxi1509]

1:45 its launches it vertical becuse the soviet wanted to have a Sam system that cann engage targets 90 degree over it the search radar even looks up you cann see the small extention on the radar angled upwards so you cann scan for targets above you and shoot them

[@vdq]

You have been back a while now but I cannot explain how much excitement I still feel seeing a new video

[@ExcavationNation]

Phly it flips over in the beginning bc The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is, whichever is greater, it obtains a difference, or deviation.

[@ZengoOshiba]

8:44 is basically the only time I have ever heard Phly genuinely scared from seeing a team mate die.

[@seadragonyt5391]

So funny. 🤣

[@danielthegermanguy8978]

it was me

[@lucian9685]

I guess the main benefit VLS (vertical launch system) is that its easy to reload and you can store more munitions without the need of complex reloading equipment like that used in rail and tube launched systems. It would be the same for naval ships using VLS, Plus extra credit for looking cool af

[@edisontrent5244]

A anti tank version would be interesting

[@Dragomaster08]

god no

[@birphon]

strap a couple Javelins and call it a day LMAO

[@casualspawnpeeking3680]

We kinda already have this with the javelin minus the cold launch

[@dirtyfiendswithneedles3111]

Skibidi toilet

[@kanestalin7246]

So an atgm?

[@edgelordcutting]

The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't.

[@thevortex6754]

I believe why the missiles are launched like that is because navy ships like the Arleigh Burke class has a VLS and you can carry so many missiles with less moving parts. So in reality the Tor-2 is a small, mobile land VLS for AA use. That’s my reasoning, since the arm carrying design like on some of the AA like the ADATs??? Idk haven’t gotten that far in the game yet, but it was very complex on ships and could only carry a couple missiles and had a long, complex reload time

[@goose8818]

Phly I just wanted you to know that I’ve been watching you ever since I started playing war thunder about 5 years ago and I just wanna say that all of your videos make me happy and laugh even when I’m sick or having a bad day so thank you❤ (R.I.P Daniel)😢

[@superbrain3848]

Chaff should work a bit wiith the Missile. will be kinda intresting if they add Electronic warfare as a aspect to the game, radar jammer pods can help with evading this kind of missiles, since it will deny the radar ranging informations

[@SimpleTac]

The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't. In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was. The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows. Because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice-versa, and by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be, and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error.

[@poisonarc]

Cold launched missiles don't kick up a bunch of dust. There's other benefits too ofc.

[@slowlydying6967]

I think the best chance of avoiding it would be making big maneuvers at longer ranges, try and make it bleed all of its energy tracking you. other than that, only prayers can help you

[@ThijsEsveldt]

Bleeding it's energy won't really help you, depending on the tracking mode the player is using you need speed and only manouvre a bit

[@alaskanbas6507]

In real life one of the ways to evade such a leading missile is by doing large high-speed loops perpendicular to the line between the missile's origin and the point where you were before starting the evasive maneuver. So in case of heading towards the SAM, you quickly turn 90 degrees and then enter the loop

[@junibug6790]

The missile isn't spazzing out; it's just writing "suka blyat" in exhaust vapor before deciding to head toward the target.

[@duvagr007]

Phly I think you missed one of the coolest pheatures of this SAM system: it can fire and forget at multiple targets. They covered it in the Shooting Range. Lock one, fire with the lead tracking, use the 'switch radar target' keybind to the next, rinse and repeat.

[@ThijsEsveldt]

You'll hardly ever use it tho. 2 enemies have to be, and stay, within the same axis.

[@duvagr007]

@@ThijsEsveldt this is true

[@rastaboy_gamesnstuff7778]

The missile knows where YOU are. It knows this because it knows where it isn't 🤣

[@lcemotorsport902]

Phly: "the missile knows where you are gonna be" My brain: "The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't. In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was. The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows. Because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice-versa, and by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be, and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error."

[@sentium9760]

This drunk man out here trying to make us watch naval for the sounds.

[@erickhian]

Hello Phly! Bring the FIRST Brazilian airplane to the game! The AMX A1-A is an Embraer fighter-bomber, do it for all your fans here in Brazil.

[@Rosivok]

love the fake sherman at the begenning in the garage...came sneaking out then rolled down the road, but no track movement.

[@Destroyer99591]

The inflatable tank trying to get as much screen time as possible

[@sudi2575]

About 5:10 or so :,, it is able to predict....no The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't. In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was. The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows. Because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice-versa, and by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be, and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error. Sorry but It has to be done 🤣🤣

[@adamlawlor11]

the missiles knows where it is by subtracting from where it isnt

[@romansavonin3234]

Rip to my boy Daniel 😢

[@herrfingerknacks4970]

Welcome back Phly Back to business: HEY Phly can you play the Hawk III please?! >For that Dude that has requesting that for years now< My Request: Btw i saw you have the M48 Suuuuuuuuuuper but you didn't even made one vid about it so why don't you do M48 Super aka Go-Kart Patton (at least in arcade🙃) And because you want to play a combination take the IL-28 out with its FAB 3000 for some multikills Phly can also you make a bomb bay showcase if you are using Bombers thx u🤗 Day: 98

[@aw4k3n25]

May Daniel rest in pieces 2022-2022😢

[@CatWarThunder]

phly makes every thing funny and i like phly for that :D

[@tomsoki5738]

Watch the slow mo video of Sea Ceptors being fired from Royal Navy Frigates, it's even cooler

[@firesfs]

The missile knows where it is by knowing where it isn’t

[@DUKE_of_RAMBLE]

Genuinely, thank you for the replay footage! ❤️ I really enjoy being able to appreciate your work from other angles and slow-mo. 👍 Also, that last death where you claimed cheater, I dunno if it was the right class (recon), but, could he have had a drone to be scouting the area with? 🤔

[@x5x]

the rocket is using thrust vectoring. that's why it can change direction so fast after the launch.

[@gigdog1000]

It's about time we have something to counter pickcells that kill us from 10ks out

[@leuckmanndrvo1244]

Ground VLS This has been originally Use and useful on naval vessels

[@exn641US]

19:26 Hat tip to the guy playing the I-153-M62.

[@danielwerfel1076]

Was cooking dinner and listening to this. Got scared when he started shouting my name out of nowhere

[@94paublo]

The misslie knows where it is, it knows this because it knows where it isnt.

[@farmcat9873]

Phly that thing locked onto a missile damn that means you can shoot enemy missiles down with that thing but I wanna know can a person shoot the missile rite when it pops out of the tank and make it explode and kill the TOR

[@whirlwindeddie2124]

The missile shivered in fear The pilot never came home

[@brianv1988]

@phlydaily check out the Russian Bastion coastal defense missile it uses the same cold launch system but with a giant missile you can see how the cold thrusters work better they're really cool to watch launch

[@TheClutchCaleb]

BEYOND happy to see Phly in my feed. Working from home feels good again!

[@t_maxem]

The TOR is just a tank designer's attempt at making a submarine ballistic missile launch system exist on a chassis and move around with tank treads. Change my mind.

[@mothekidfromhell6077]

The missile knows where it is because it knows where it is not

[@-southern_dh_mtb-5840]

That intro was sick 🤙

[@therealcoolman1]

Yeah! Just found the song. Its "Maniac" by Killrude

[@theGr8goouch]

Hey phly you should relive the good ole days and hit some reserve - 2.0 br play

[@TheNecromancer6666]

BTW Tor is a SHORAD System. Its a tiny Missile.

[@Nebby_Webby]

No??? Lmfao

[@TheNecromancer6666]

@Nebby_Webby Yes. Yes it is. Its one of the shortest range mobile SAMs Russia uses.

[@Nebby_Webby]

@@TheNecromancer6666"SHORAD refers to a group of anti-aircraft weapons and tactics designed to defend against low-altitude air threats, primarily helicopters, low-flying aircraft, and unmanned aerial systems (UAS). It is a critical component of integrated air and missile defense (IAMD) systems, focusing on detecting, tracking, and engaging air targets within a limited range, typically below 10 km (6.2 miles)" SA-15 MAR is somewhere around 4-5NM, while the engagement range is somewhere around 10-12NM. This is ofc classified so no one knows the actual range but that's how it's modeled in most games and that's the stuff you find online. A SHORAD is something like the gaypard or the stinger

[@jflorez6484]

Is that drones name actually phucking "Wing Long" ahahahahaahahahahah 12:43

[@emtiv5308]

it needs that initial ignition sound and... SLAPP

[@imablock16]

It functions the same way as a jav where it has an primary charge that shoots it and then the rocket fires after a gyro has made the missile rotate.

[@SemD2005]

nope, gas pressure causes the initial launch, then it uses something like thrust vectoring to align it and then it launches

[@rodrigobastos1727]

It's time to add anti-radiation missile in this game

[@sky_raider_2354]

Now if only missiles worked 100% of the time in game instead of spazzing out and tracking nothing

[@simohayha9874]

Ok this is the last war thunder video i watch before I go sleep Time is 22.24 or 10.24pm

[@simohayha9874]

Start if the vid"

[@MrJamesThe7th]

i have never seen a cell fired missile from a ground vehicle

[@Jono.]

That missile flies like the bf2042 jets at launch

[@NuclearFalcon146]

As a DCS player I freaking HATE these things! They are absolute cancer that shoot down your missiles and then shoot at you. Yes you can overwhelm and kill them but they are so annoying! 5:00 sounds like a certain memed to death missile knows where it is thing. But yes you can "crank" them. 18:10 Not sure how well modelled it is in War Thunder but technically if he has Mavericks then you just shoot down his missiles. That's what Tors do.

[@ryankm48]

I saw your cursor when you made aim on that KA 50. You missed.

[@Frogggisimo]

What happened to the emblem on Phly’s mascot after the intro at the start of the video?

[@djswx]

Phly, you've brought back the "Everybody" intro right? Well, there has been a certain song kinda stuck _In My Head_ phor a while that you could also bring back! Attempt # 458 The song i mean is Virtual Riot - In My Head (feat. PRXZM)

[@Kievaer]

Gaijin should add this AA in our airfields

[@thunderwrld]

It would be horrible lol

[@brummbar5895]

Daniel the helicopter 😆

[@underworldguardian704]

Fun fact: the RUSSIAN Tor-M is the only SPAA that can fire on the move.

[@Nebby_Webby]

No? lol

[@josephdarklight]

the tip of each missle after its cold ejection launch actually have vectoring mini jets behind the nosecone that helps the weapon change angle so suddenly before the mane rocket motor kicks in

[@patrykoswwa5885]

How do you measure the range and then automatically set range for shooting?

[@hhhkojkjk6962]

its a modification for top tier vehicles

[@XRAYTHERMAL]

could you play the jpz 4-5/hanomag-henschel jpz 4-5 its a 6.3 german tank destroyer with HEATFS

[@sageg58]

Me when I'm on my way to shoot down an airliner

[@WCIN]

Now that they brought in the TOR…. Now War Thunder needs to bring in HARM…. Shrike for old Sams… Just Sayin…😁

[@spetsnaz7979]

I'm still salty how a russian anti air was added to the Chinese tech tree. Next thing is the T-90M would be added to the Chinese tech tree and russia gets a reskin for the t-26

[@almaarmhk6218]

Find someone to play with you tongosta and thor will be amazing deadly team

[@Levitan-Bloop]

can’t wait phly making a video about warthunder edge😂

[@steve-wu7jp]

The tor was not worth the grind, its slightly better than the preceding aa system but not much. It doesnt even have thermals

[@junekatana78]

WarThunder should do a competition and the winner gets to drop a personally designed Ship a Tank and a plane,helicopter . Upgrades could be invisibility and the worst type of weaponry you could imagine. On the game for every single player?

[@knoxx5553]

GAIJIN, PUT THE B1 LABCER IN DA GAME LET ME ROLEPLAY SHOCK AND AWE. or roleplay as the paris gun with a GW TIGER ARTILLERY TANK

[@Cajunland5150]

How are people playing WT without any lag? It lags on my pc and xbox one s, with 0% packet loss and around 60 fps ...Whats causing the lag?

[@blitzgaming4992]

The missile know where it is

[@jeebuzcrust]

Attempt #72,541 to build a Russian SAM system that doesn't get smoked while not shooting stuff down.

[@realtimeflies4679]

that is Tor-M2 in the KZbin video? not M1

[@kooppie]

Gald your back again

[@faunbudweis]

when your life depends on streaming a ruski game...

[@mark679]

sadly its the chinese export one not the Russian original in game

[@darksoulbros8950]

This aa shoots fckn telephone poles into your plane

[@Spiffa]

The sound effect for the middle and the torpedo are definitely just copy pasted

[@abogadochino]

daniel will be missed

[@HELPIMFALLING_oh_the_number_3]

RIP Daniel

[@nikiforosspyropoulos2756]

The missile moving so erratically is giving me major anxiety

[@pileOgames]

Mostly phrom the server replay. In game its smoother lol

[@devenirpyro]

It knows where it is because it knows where it isn't

[@yureinobbie68]

I thought it was a stock market curve phrom the side xD

[@jansimek8816]

The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't. In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was.

[@Lord_Of_Spoon]

It's just doing the owl thing to increase its depth perception.

[@OnlySkyGuy]

"The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't. In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was. The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows. Because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice-versa, and by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be, and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error. "

[@Getoffmycloud53]

04:58 “The missile predicts where you are at all times. It knows this because it predicts where you are not…”

[@patrickbateman4148]

Misquote

[@yourallygod8261]

the missle knows where it is by knowing where it isn't for anyone feeling like it wasn't sounding right the way this commenter said it >:(

[@cloaker7237]

The missile knows where it is at all times It know this, because it knows where it isn’t.

[@jblob5764]

@@patrickbateman4148 duh... Was edited for the situation

[@carter8292]

🤓

[@blueskiestrevor5200]

An advantage to a VLS (vertical launch) system like is is that you can fire multiple missiles rapidly in multiple directions without the turret needing to move. This makes sense when you understand that a big part of Tor's mission is to shoot down waves of inbound cruise missiles.

[@mr.snidor1773]

So we are just ignoring the fact that he uses KZbin white mode....

[@KampfTiger1]

Actually the RIM-24a are the biggest Surface to Air Missiles, its on the USS Douglas. Could be a cool video idea.

[@PhlyDaily]

👁👄👁

[@toasteroven6761]

​@@PhlyDaily 590 Kg of CAS Pain... And the missiles will only get bigger, imagine when SM-2 or even the SM-6 missile enters the game on DDGs...

[@_jagerbomb]

🤓

[@thunderwrld]

@@toasteroven6761 Sm2 and sm6 will be op no matter what dude

[@molstad182]

@@_jagerbomb cornball+cringe+L

[@vannlo355]

I feel like when it launches out it's fins are pointed in a specific way to allow it to turn before the motor fires

[@jacobdewey2053]

Most systems like this use a set of thrusters in a cap on the nose to orient the missile before firing the main motor. You can actually see them fire in real-life videos of systems like this.

[@vannlo355]

@@jacobdewey2053 I see, I was just taking a guess

[@jacobdewey2053]

@@vannlo355 No worries! Just thought I'd chime in with some knowledge

[@hf117j]

It's a good guess, the main thing you forgot to account for is that at speeds that low with the weight it has, it probably wouldn't have enough airspeed over the fins to orient it until the motor fires

[@Fantastic_Mr_Fox]

@@vannlo355 I made the same guess as you originally, but looked at some footage and you can clearly see the jets on the nose, it's really cool

[@arcturus960]

Forgot to mention that the TOR can lock onto two targets at once and quickly switch between which is being tracked

[@IvanTre]

Does this work in the game too ?

[@noahwipert3688]

So glad your back Phly, we all missed you!

[@IAteYourCookiez]

Yes

[@tobi2233]

Chill it’s not like he came back from the dead

[@bungojerry9297]

People have been commenting this since he came back. "it's time to stop"-filthy frank

[@Marin3r101]

You're as in you are back Your back would imply you are talking about his back.... that would just be weird.

[@FillyCheesteak]

You’re

[@ideadlift20kg83]

It's meant to shoot down multiple targets at the same time which is why it has the launch system. It means it can just pop a missile and have the tiny rocket shove it in the right direction without turning the turret.

[@turtlepowa]

This AA to be honest feels like and underground missile base for some reason I am glad you are back

[@toasteroven6761]

More like DDG VLS cell imo

[@konstantin88181]

1:34 this is for firing from closed positions, when surrouded by trees, or rocks or buildings. Rescently there is a video appeared where "Pancyr" shoots at multiple targets from closed positions and one of rockets just hits near building just because of this reason - tilted missile launcher. Also Tor's missiles are much heavier, so this vertical lounching position is it's key feauture.

[@doorlock4631]

5:23 ; A missle knows where it is, by subtracting where it isnt….

[@Getoffmycloud53]

You beat me to it 😂

[@IndigoSolution]

The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't. In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was. The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows. Because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice-versa, and by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be, and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error.

[@Rickyp0123]

@@IndigoSolution That was a freaking great read. Thank you sir or madam.

[@Maddog3060]

@@IndigoSolution This is why mathematicians shouldn't explain things until they're forced to get an A in their language courses.

[@ionator2000ist]

Another to keep in mind is the TOR-1 in warthunder is nerfed to be usable in warthunder. They can shoot out to like 20-25 almost 30 miles.

[@sunshadow7XK]

>Nerfed to be useable God I hate this. People want tanks, but then when they behave like actual tanks they act like babies.

[@shadowconquer-yv5yd]

@@sunshadow7XK 🤓It's an SPAA. Also what can you do, it's a multiplayer game.

[@theegunpro4561]

The vertical launch really reminds me of the submarines from back in the day

[@arcturus960]

@twerking bollocks he’s talking about the April fools event for I think 2020