The Biggest Failure in Gaming | Battlefield 2042

This is the greatest franchise destruction of All Time
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[@DaFrankyy]

This game was the reason Star Wars Battlefront 2 didn’t get anymore updates and possibly killed the potential chance of us having Battlefront 3

[@davidallen234]

Honestly they just need to start development for Battlefront 3 after this disaster.

[@sandianexpress1198]

That’s so true

[@issahumps]

And bfV which was getting better after the final update 😂🤦

[@issahumps]

@@davidallen234 you really want dice to make another failure at launch 😬 I wish the license would go to someone else.

[@floriansteininger347]

Didn't expect you here. But yeah, I agree.

[@ziroco_6685]

I love when big companies do the "kill a franchise speedrun glitches any%"

[@2ScoopsPlz]

Glitchless? You sure about that?

[@AngTheHunter]

i dont think glitchless is accurate

[@LordShrub]

Release a new game any% complete speed run.

[@genericimage2452]

Honestly, I think EA snagged the WR on this one, lets see if they can use the Quick Revive that they used on BF2

[@CommentGuyYuh]

@@genericimage2452 rockstar is a close second

[@Danymok]

Personally BF2042 is the biggest disappointment to me. We were all super excited for the futuristic setting, and promises that they learned from their mistakes in BFV. Then they blew their biggest and best opportunity to make a great game.

[@Danymok]

@@GokuSolosAnime nice try

[@NyxMoonReads]

Their CGI trailers are the ultimate bait and switch.

[@somerhimpson5460]

@Don't read profile photo read this ratio

[@venomsnanake]

@@GokuSolosAnime Ratio denial

[@senatorarmstrong2100]

Actually after all the recent updates, its kinda fun to play.

[@GabrielMartinez-sd8pc]

BF Core fanbase: we don’t want specialists. We don’t want hero shooters. Give us authentic uniformed soldier classes. DICE: no. What you really want is a Santa Claus skin.

[@brandons9536]

The outcome Of when your Dev team is now full of Entitled Liberals. Instead of taking the funds to fix and make a proper game they cut so many corners just to line their pockets. Its way to obvious.

[@trev0rcRs]

DICE employee trying to feed his family: "OOH OOH, I KNOW WHAT THE FANS WANT, GANGAM STYLE DANCES!!!"

[@R73949]

But there are many people too, who only cares about clown skins

[@eztebeotxoa1165]

EA: that was something, right?

[@M21assult]

TBF i do want a Santa skin and I don’t mind operators. But there’s too many specialists that are too useless across most of the game.

[@Stodeh]

They went in the complete opposite of what we expected from BF. At least people are giving the older games a chance again. BF1, BF5 and BF3/4.

[@derek_3054]

I don’t think many people had an issue with BF3 and BF1 the other two were questionable though especially on release

[@TheBigboy453]

@@derek_3054 true, but bf4 is still goated IMO

[@Dr_Sparks_]

Hi STODDIE!!

[@TristanAD_]

@@derek_3054 BF4 did have a rocky launch but it easily the best Battlefield when looking across mechanics and balance. Personally BF3 is my favorite Battlefield of all time but it’s hard to argue against BF4’s overwhelming terrific vehicle balance, weapon balance, and maps are phenomenally balanced as well

[@TheBigboy453]

@@derek_3054 however it was my first battlefield experience, if I started with 3 I might have a different opinion

[@JohnDoe-vc5qb]

It’s actually insane to think that in 15 years, DICE went for the chill studio that made Bad Company to this. The greed actually went to their heads.

[@creativityfails1]

They didn't keep the talent that brought us the old games. Through greed or ignorance.

[@thedejectedape953]

It is the nature of capitalism. Get used to watching this happen to all of your favourite companies due to the top down, totalitarian purely profit driven motives of the shareholders and the board. Solution? A start would be workplace democracy and making a fund out of billionaires fortunes to start new smaller, democratic, co-op style businesses.

[@KakashiHatake-sv1vb]

The talent left

[@kayagorzan]

Hope the new studio doesn’t end up like this

[@Momokabomo]

I'm fairly convinced it's EA managment breathing down their necks causing a lot of these bad descisions. I seriously doubt anyone at DICE actually thought going the hero shooter route was a good idea for example. Rather it's upper managment being trend chasers and not being content with already being the largest fps title in the world

[@Its_Just_Brad]

The biggest thing with this being an absolute “f u” to gamers is EVERY SINGLE BETA TESTER said do not release the game. It’s not even close to finished and is a broken Jank mess. They did anyways and then blamed the game failing because of halo infinite and other shit.

[@unoriginalname9556]

Sadly a lot of beta testers were coping hard and expected the game to still be good regardless of how bad the beta was.

[@vashbain3136]

@@unoriginalname9556 thats bullshit, I was on the steam forums on the day the BETA came out expressing my concerns and 90% of the players were calling me shit, telling me to get a better pc, its an old build of the game and this and that. I was eagerly awating the release to watch them all cry, while I cancelled the pre order instantly

[@unoriginalname9556]

@@vashbain3136 hold up, why are you calling what i said bullshit? You're only confirming what i just said.

[@bradlasalle2888]

@@unoriginalname9556 Maybe he meant what they said was bullshit, as in garbage rather than false. Probably just a matter of not being able to put proper emphasis through text; I'd imagine so, anyways lol

[@vashbain3136]

@@unoriginalname9556 you just said " EVERY SINGLE BETA TESTER said do not release the game" everyone was literally saying the game would be fine in the forums.

[@Kragith]

Kinda depressing how normalized the concept of the "roadmap" is now. I remember when Bethesda got a ton of shit for putting a horse armor micro-transaction in oblivion, compaired to those times we're really deep into a gaming dystopia already.

[@HunterSilves]

Imo, there's nothing wrong with a roadmap *IF* the game is released in a full state. The roadmap should be DLC or free content updates from that point, NOT features or planned major bug fixes, or content that was clearly cut from the original product just to extend the games' lifespan.

[@tylerschmidlin3436]

I saw a post on Reddit yesterday about how both Microsoft and Sony are seeking to put ads in games in the future. It’s only going to worse

[@Kragith]

@@tylerschmidlin3436 Tbh I'm with RGE on this one. Gamers get the industry they deserve. No one forces them to keep funding this crap, if they stopped it would go away.

[@tylerschmidlin3436]

@@Kragith O absolutely, we brought this on ourselves

[@xxCrimsonSpiritxx]

Not sure how the two compares, a roadmap is about telling you what to expect and around what time, microtransactions are about locking content behind a paywall Sooo again, not sure what are you talking about

[@Benefits]

I took part in the closed playtesting for Battlefield 2042 and have worked in QA and systems development in the games industry for almost a decade now. Never in my life have I seen a game studio so unwilling to accept tester feedback on their product. DICE and EA refused to make any meaningful changes or to even finish their game before they released it. We told them during testing the game needed another full year of development just to finish implementing basic multiplayer features, but they confidently assured us that we were wrong, and the game was going to be a smash hit. So they released it anyways and it instantly failed. Now the game is virtually dead, they've indefinitely delayed all of their future content that people have already paid for, and are using that time to implement the same changes they told us we were wrong about during testing. DICE is the most arrogant and conceded studio I've ever had the displeasure of working with in my career. They truly deserve all the failure they continue to create. Editing just to clarify I've never worked for DICE or EA. I signed up for a closed playtest and got lucky by getting an invitation. I just also happen to work in the gaming industry and have experience in QA from my early days. I find it disgusting that almost all the feedback from that playtest was willfully ignored and this game was rushed out the door so obviously incomplete. Thousands of normal Battlefield players took part in that closed playtesting weekend and they all were saying the same things as me on the private discussion forum EA had set up for feedback.

[@chrom4ful]

interesting insight, thanks for sharing why bother hiring playtesters and closed beta if the company won't even take any feedbacks

[@SubjektDelta]

@@chrom4ful they probably respect that and its some sort of requirement but if that one guy who leads says no, it is a no.

[@alexdobma4694]

@@chrom4ful because of the PR. They only wanted to give people the idea that the community is/was being listened to. Fuck DICE and fuck 2042.

[@nickmcdaniel6071]

Woah me too. Kept getting NOTHING but "KS" Which if you don't know, is short for "known, shippable" They just didn't care. They entirely knew it was gonna make absolute bank on the day one sales and pre-orders and just wanted a day one return on investment

[@Jeff_189]

Damn, dice too? People praise it normally and condemn ea

[@tux75]

Never forget that EA DICE tried to tell us Battlefield performing poorly is Halo Infinite’s fault

[@benarchyuk837]

"There won't be a Battlefield Title if we don't stop the Infinite" - Master Cheif

[@gageimus7684]

Also kind of sucks ass they threw out star wars battlefront to develop more battlefield.

[@Enzo_Speedmetal]

Bro you pfp _🤣_

[@klassikmaster10]

Back then when i thaught halo infinite will be the "game for the winter"

[@YoungChuy2398]

@@gageimus7684 exactly, battlefront 2 was an amazing game nowadays it’s impossible to get into a lobby

[@SolisFactor]

It's actually hilarious how they had such a cool concept for a game, only to use it in the worst possible way. EDIT: I'm referring to the concept of the whole near future setting and apocalyptic aesthetic, not the specialists.

[@Honeybadger10110]

It was really a spit in the mouth moment

[@smartoheavy6022]

Some might argue that the setting and “concept” was garbage from the start. The moment the reveal trailer dropped, I was personally skeptical. Nobody asked for Battlefield Advanced Black Infinite Ops, they literally just had to make a Battlefield 4.5.

[@ollemeister862]

thought the game was pretty fun with the wingsuit or grapple hook character but didnt feel like battlefield except the vehicles

[@vincetaliaferro2777]

Halo sucks, COD sucks, it was literally the perfect time for them to absolutely take over and they blew it. Dumb...

[@SpookusMcDoofus]

@@vincetaliaferro2777 if you’re talking about the new games, then I agree with you

[@SeaGLGaming]

I remember when someone made a joke to a dev talking about how little cover maps in 2042 had, and the dev responded by saying "But look at this older Battlefield map and how empty it is!" And to everyone's dismay, it was a map from Battlefield 2, a 19 year old game. And it wasn't even a vanilla map, it was a map from a mod for it that released almost a decade ago. When the only way to make your maps look good is to compare it to a 10 year old mod for a 19 year game, I mean, I don't feel I even have to finish that thought. It's just that absurd. Devs didn't end there. When Elden Ring launched, a former UI dev that worked on 2042 had the guts to complain about how terrible Elden Ring's UI was.

[@youwhatmadeidk]

Battlefield has always had shit UI. Imagine the cheek.

[@zachb1706]

@@youwhatmadeidk agree. Battlefield UI is uninspired at best and terribly designed at worst

[@Fire_of756]

The devs are just children who never grew up.

[@CrazyBarks]

I mean, to be fair though, UI has never been Fromsoft's strong suit. It's okay to like or even love a game and still recognize problems and shortcomings with it. Dark Souls is easily my favorite game franchise from any developer, but I'll admit in a heartbeat, the way the UI is set up is _inefficient_ at best, incompetent at worst, to the point where the UI's programming lead to many, many exploits in the original game. They also have had a long-running history of trying to recycle their most successful components from previous titles, regardless if it meshes with their current project or not, Dark Souls 3 being a prime example, it's not really "Dark Souls," more of Bloodborne 2: Iron Age. Still a successful project but that was mostly due to it being many players' first experience of Fromsoft, rather than on its own merits.

[@Derivedwhale45]

And he was right cause Reskin Ring 3 has one of the crappiest UI we have ever seen in gaming. At least it ain't as bad as ubisoft UI design since some of them features can be turn off

[@roarshach13]

Gotta love the absolute gall of a company calling gamers "entitled" for wanting a functioning product.

[@devindameron]

biggest and fastest way to turn your supporters against you, atleast the few of them that was still there lol.

[@verychristianboi3584]

For 60 bucks minimum no less

[@theretrogamingnerd3316]

Especially when companies feel entitled to our money for said product.

[@wtpiv6041]

@@verychristianboi3584 Not to mention it was 70 for the “next Gen experience” that could’ve passed as an early Xbox 360 game.

[@arnahunas4048]

Every time I think I’m a failure, I remember that I’m not Battlefield: 2042 and that I must be something right.

[@timonbubnic322]

@DONT CLICK ON MY VIDEO!! dont worry i wont

[@1godzine187]

Im proud that you noticed it. Stay strong and spit on bf2042

[@SeanSMST]

Keep your head up king, you got this

[@zstrode.8953]

If that doesn't work for you any more gondola the wings of redemption or DSP rabbit hole that'll make you feel even better than ever!

[@27jerry27]

Remember this is Multi Billion Companies and still failed. Perspective.

[@OmniPieTV]

POV: You haven't heard about Battlefield 2042 for months until Charlie started talking about it.

[@MonoKard]

eiPinmO woh era uoy

[@King0nyx]

@Cosmic (GOD OF CONTENT) this kid is so pressed for attention he copy pasted his bait 3 times in the same thread

[@fuzzychunkymunky2858]

@@King0nyx its a bot. report it and pay it no mind

[@kfcmanager3199]

Ratio

[@dragonslayermasterornstein83]

I only keep hearing about it because of yongyea. But this is still correct

[@JayDayX116]

Seriously, the content drought on halo infinite is horrible. It's terrible to see such a potentially great game be killed by its own development/execs

[@mistadopeman]

IDK wtf is going on with those overpaid 343 clowns.

[@LUXSTERIA]

@@mistadopeman yeah it's actually fucking insane

[@triyo1089]

For me i stopped after the backend went to shit and desync got bad. I can play a game with minimal content but when the game has worse desync than siege before operation health that wasnt it for me xD and then i just havent really gone back. But tbf i dont play many MP games at all now, mainly playing campaigns and single player games only now for the most part, much better enjoyment from gaming when you just play old classics and games that are fleshed out

[@playboyj0hnny270]

Literally beat halo infinite within 2 days of buying it

[@triyo1089]

@@playboyj0hnny270 what difficulty? Also did you bother doin anything other than main quest missions?

[@GraphicJ]

Hey Dice, take a little lesson from Albert Eintein: "The only thing more dangerous than ignorance is arrogance. "

[@lirich0]

A lot of things are more dangerous than ignorance tbh

[@mateusbmedeiros]

Yep. Like an Apache Helicopter.

[@espressonoob]

@@lirich0 nah life would be disgustingly boring being an ignorant person, no thanks i feel sorry for people who live in bliss.

[@DrPonner]

I'd argue that arrogance is a form of ignorance, or rather, most displays of arrogance are undeserved and born from ignorance (e.g. the Dunning Kruger effect)

[@Steel-101]

Honestly I blame EA more than dice. Dice wanted to keep on working on Star Wars battlefront two but EA put a stop to that so they can make this disaster. I’m not saying dice is fully innocent but there are many good employees that work so hard but sadly a lot of it is ruined by the bosses bad decisions.

[@snowboundmage]

Just remember the lack of a score board was an intentional decision to combat "toxic gamer culture".

[@TheSniper9752]

All while DICE were engaging in toxic dev culture.

[@chawk6201]

Just like getting rid of dislikes

[@Fridgemasters]

this scoreboard shit with all these big AAA fps games is so fucking stupid. i love having a scoreboard because it feels awesome when i do good and when i fuck up, it’ll motivate me to be better. it’s another thing that’ll keep me playing because i want my score to improve

[@mosfet_737]

because we really need to worry about that in an M rated game

[@brucebonner3491]

I find it funny how people are soo butthurt and offended over it, you don't need a scoreboard, it doesn't do anything and means nothing. And when over 70% of players are cheaters, what's the point. Gaming in a whole has been pure shit since 2013 and has been on a fast downhill.

[@hambubger8225]

For me, this game’s fate was sealed when it was revealed that most of the team who worked on previous Battlefield games had left the studio. The guys that are left don’t have the same experience and it shows

[@troublemaker1145]

Hope the ones that left go out to make a banger of a game without EAs restrictions

[@frankmerker630]

Sounds like a harbinger for the GTA franchise as well given a very similar situation

[@Gandhi_Physique]

I didn't even know that. I wonder if that did have something to do with it. Like c'mon dude, how do you leave out a freakin scoreboard? If they are a lot of relative newbies, I hope they improve and can make something truly amazing.

[@sbfh014]

For me it was when I saw jfjs vid on it, and he said he was invited to a q and a with other creators, and they ignored what he said because they were legitimate concerns and questions in favor of the others who, with their "questions", basically sucked off the devs to get recognition, and look what happened

[@biazacha]

Yep, nothing good comes when the people that build a franchise to be what it is jumps ship.

[@AntacidTech]

It’s sad to see Battlefield going on its 20th anniversary this year with the franchise being in such a bad state because of 2042 and a isolated fan base. RIP Battlefield 2002-2022

[@christianbethel]

Battlefield died in 2006. Battlefield 2142 was the last game in the series to feature offline bot support.

[@kelownatechkid]

@@christianbethel Good point

[@Waiknz]

Player: "Points out issues" BF2042 Devs: "How dare you complain about our unfinished and unpolished game! Grow UP!"

[@solarstrike33]

Almost certainly being held to a script, and DICE is soon to be taken behind EA's infamous shed.

[@rattle_me_bones]

@@Instabruh.User.. ratio

[@emz1412]

@@Instabruh.User.. that moment when you have no videos on your channel

[@DsgSleazy]

@@solarstrike33 I'd rather Dice get put out of it's misery than them work on another game for a bunch of years and have it do worse than fuckin call of duty.

[@HoloTWWOriginal]

When did they ever say anything like that? I remember that in bf5 but not in bf42

[@pengmaeda9908]

It’s baffling how EA hasn’t figured out all they need to do is make the Battlefield 2042 Cookbook to save the game.

[@woodcabinet]

i think they need to start investing into the rare fish market

[@pengmaeda9908]

@@woodcabinet I mean have they seen how much fishing gets you in Animal Crossing? It’s a Goldmine!

[@Gandhi_Physique]

@@velaikka No it will just be missing half of the core ingredients.

[@blake8640]

An among us crossover will also work

[@pengmaeda9908]

@@velaikka No it'll give you explosive Diarrhea, like on the real Battlefield.

[@rb8258]

The series didn't slowly decline, it took a god damn orbital swan dive

[@jmmjjmmjjmmj]

a leap of fuck

[@toastywhiteboy7822]

I mean BFV wasn’t super loved, but yeah, this game put the series 60 feet under.

[@pleepler]

At least it's a nosedive padded with 60-100 bucks per unfortunate soul that bought or pre-ordered that game

[@drphilsranch6782]

@@toastywhiteboy7822, BFV wasn’t the best, sure, but at least it was a playable video game. BF2042 is just the definition of apathy, on the developer side and the player side.

[@Drwho-ou7tb]

Triple lindy off the top diving board.

[@YaBoyGoofy]

It’s literally going to take everyone to stop buying new games and preordering them before companies try again to make a masterpiece

[@beegs4515]

The biggest middle finger that came from this, is that after the uphill battle to make battlefront 2 a great game they finally had a great player base and fun game. And they cut updates for it and abandoned it for Batrlefield

[@checkm88]

That's the saddest part for me Battlefront ended on a pretty mediocre update that felt they were scraping the bottom of the barrel to put out just enough content in it to make it big enough. And if this wasn't the last update it'd be whatever, we'll get 'em next time, but since it was it just felt like a lackluster note to end on. That being said, goddamn. I eventually got over the disappointing last update and now hearing how 2042 is a colossal failure just really stings because battlefront died during it's comeback so 2042 just pissed everybody off Battlefield fans got screwed and battlefront fans are upset their game died for this shit stain of a game

[@matthewsanchez742]

I bought that game at the beginning and frankly I had no care for the loot boxes, I was just happy to have a Battlefront 2 game after so long and god it looked beautiful. Then yeah they proceeded to stop making content and stuff and god what this game could’ve been had it kept an alive service for it since the beginning 😔

[@duds1tv]

Even sadder after hearing they had ahsoka ventress and mustafar was planned for the next update

[@checkm88]

@@duds1tv i know they had more planned than what was given But now empire customization will forever be lacking I'm glad they let us use the skins they already had but still, all the more proof they were really scraping for this update since they essentially just made the base skins unlockable

[@DontF0rgetThat]

I tried playing on PC and could not even turn all the way around, I could only turn about 180 degrees. Didn't do that bad really in hero battle, whatever it is called. I used Grievous and still got a kill and assists.

[@Vortimar]

That intense moment in bf1 when your whole team is pushing the enemy line backwards, all poised around the next point with your squad, you send the command to attack and you blow down hard on your whistle, not only does your squad follow the initiative, but the whole team charges into the bullet fire, as a giant blimp explodes in the sky and falls down to the earth in blazing inferno, the music swells as your team works together, covering each other's backs and dismantling the enemy war machine... Rip to the battlefield golden age.

[@spontaksback]

That was beautiful. I still play.

[@TOUD_]

Bf1 remains the most cinematic

[@aaroncarapace8054]

You forgot the part of artillery exploding mere feet in front of you as you charge through the incinerated remains of your first squadmate blown twenty feet into the air. You dive behind a rock as you watch a tanks LMG mow down your second squad mate. A nearby medic rushes to help your squadmate before his head explodes from a sniper. You watch in horror as a bomber crashes and explodes killing the rest of your squad. Only you remain alive. With nothing left to lose, you toss a grenade into the enemies trenches then bayonet charge into the one survivor of the grenade. You fire all of your ammo into the remaining trench defenders before resorting to killing the last defender with your shovel. You nervously hide in a corner reloading your gun as a squad of enemy troops run past you to the front trenchline, praying that your reinforcements will arrive before they find you.

[@Vortimar]

@@aaroncarapace8054 yes they certainly nailed the tragedy of war, the team mates screaming in fear and such until your the last one left alive. Can't wait until I get my gaming pc so I can play it again. Ps4 servers are all dead!

[@berkutcy47]

idgaf what anyone says. bf1 is the best battlefield. its cool how they actually chose ww1, which was a war where its hard to find "the good guys". its a breath of fresh air for the time period, the beautiful cinematics that gave me actual goosebumps, and brought the horror of war right in front of you. (remember the prologue? "john smith 1899 - 1917"). then they regurgitated ww2, like that hasnt been done a million times, and then this garbage. i wish there was more ww1 games in general that gave that similar feeling bf1 did.

[@Industries-ih2rh]

“We are concerned that battlefield 2042 may be replicating the experience that big rigs over the road is known for.”

[@SouthernHavoc]

Is that a reference to the act man’s pubg video because if so, good job keeping the meme alive?

[@quandaledinglegaming4218]

never thought I'd see the act man PUBG copypasta

[@winlover37]

@@quandaledinglegaming4218 I feel like both of us have been on KZbin too long to pick up on it

[@patrickfergusonaerialviper21]

Damn thats a classic

[@bigguy8435]

A certain Male Who Acts would be proud

[@bonelesschickennuggets1868]

I find it hilarious how these massive AAA studios with so many employees fail to give out consistent and good live services, five months just for a freaking scoreboard? And one that’s still completely broken? That’s just circus material Specially when compared to other studios specifically Hello Games and No Man’s Sky which, yes it had a broken awful launch but it picked itself up and TO THIS DAY is still pumping out updates with new and fresh content alongside bug fixes and whatnot, last week they released Outlaws which in a nutshell let’s you play as a space pirate and participate in less than legal activities, but people found issues with some of the new features (myself included) and guess what? YESTERDAY they released a hot fix correcting most of the issues after player feedback, JUST WEEK after, and mind you, Hello games just have 26 employees. And I ask you this, how in gods name can this tiny indie studio give more consistent and meaty updates than most TRIPLE A studios? This is a joke my man I hate modern gaming.

[@thelqualomee1040]

the work done on No Man's Sky is historical in many different ways. its on the same level as the sonic movie redesign in how unexpectedly well it changed for the good. Hello Games made NMS into such a good game now, and is constantly working on it to bring the promises it had into reality, and more. i love that game so much just because of the dedication of the devs. everyone hated them, but now we love 'em

[@dumbyoshi]

@@thelqualomee1040 one of my only complaints is that the planet terrain can be pretty flat. Of course you have planets with huge mountains or large holes, but a majority of planets will have mostly flat or smooth terrain. It's probably so vehicles can drive on most planets, but more variety could force players to use different vehicles, or to just go on foot.

[@thelqualomee1040]

​@@dumbyoshi naaah i dont agree. on most planets is super hard to use land vehicles due to the holes and crevices. to me its less flat than it should realistically be. but if its a flat planet/moon? that is realistic. not all planets have raging hills. Earth has variations of flat like florida, and mountains like... mostly not florida. now tell me your favorite mountain on Luna (moon). ill wait

[@zgama6511]

Triple A studios don't give a fuck about the game they're making they just wanna see how much money they can pump out of their large fanbase before the dump the game entirely. These smaller studios like the ones that make no man's sky genuinely care about their game and the people that actively play it. It's why a lot of these smaller game companies have such memorable games they put care into what they make and if it's unfortunate enough to launch like no man's sky did they will usually do their best to fix it

[@nigeltheoutlaw]

It's pretty easy when most the budget is spent on advertising, 80% of your employees are only there due to nepotism or diversity requirments, all the skilled developers are ran off by awful management, and the handful of leftover newbie devs are all reassigned to making cash shop items rather than the game. Notice how the shops are always packed to the brim and functioning great on each of these trash games?

[@jackcartier7508]

its even more funny when you remember how they got rid of the campaign to “focus on the multiplayer” and still havent fixed it 6 months later

[@2xenos1]

What an L

[@FLXTL1NE]

I’ve found that every time a game company doesn’t make a campaign to go with their game it flops.

[@hatemaster9131]

@@FLXTL1NE fortnite

[@FLXTL1NE]

@@hatemaster9131 I mean if it’s something like call of duty or in this instance battlefield

[@madeleine61509]

@@hatemaster9131 I mean, Fortnite does have a campaign mode... But ignoring that, Fortnite is clearly an exception. Its entire success is held up by a mixture of meme culture, its free-to-play status, and children who are easily manipulated into microtransactions. If it weren't for kids screaming and crying to have their parents buy them V-bucks, the game would have gone under. Most people actually using their own money are either not playing Fortnite, or at the very least not spending any money on it, and that's a pretty important thing to note.

[@GambitRaps]

I’ll never get enough of Charlie referring to things as “stinky”

[@Kyle-bi7df]

🤓🤓

[@ZonoYT]

I can't help but laugh everytime I remember that EA blamed Halo Infinite's surprise release for 2042's failure lmao

[@freezy2755]

I remember when trailers dropped for cod, bf and halo everyone was saying that nobody would be playing this cod and everyone would be on halo and bf. Ironically even though this years cod sucked it has more players than bf and halo

[@brokentv1855]

@@freezy2755 cod has and will always have more players it’s the most casual of the 3

[@goatman9499]

@@brokentv1855 at least cod knows that its trash and it can get away with scamming the kids that play it, the competitors(of their choosing) decide to be like cod while they dont have their own yards in order, its not fair that Vanguard(🤮) is a superior game to halo infinite or battlefield 2042, those games should be pissing on cod right now in terms of being a good (10/10 great) game. COD can deliver consistently even if I hate what they have, the other companies keep failing themselves not me, themselves and the great predecessors they can thank their existence for.

[@freezy2755]

@@brokentv1855 yeah it usually has more players but this time it probably has more players than bf and halo combined, and this cod sold very poorly

[@brokentv1855]

@@freezy2755 as hardcore halo fan I have all the halo editions Xbox’s besides the new x series and I didn’t buy halo infinite becuz I m already paying for gamepass ultimate :)

[@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370]

The most tragic part is that someone, or some crew at DICE made this entire world and lore that still BEGS for a campaign: a post-apocalyptic world wracked by economic crises, climate disasters, satellites falling like God's middle fingers on Job, total social collapse, a migrant crisis even Jean Raspail would consider depressing, and the last battles between the two remaining superpowers of the planet slowly degenerating from hi-tech scuffles to flat-out nuclear annihilation for its last resources. How could anyone waste that potential so easily?

[@dundun3687]

Yeah the premise was actually really interesting to me when it was announced. Especially with how climate change is going to effect the world. Maybe even a bit of satire? Shame to see such a premise wasted on this.

[@JohnDarkSoul69]

a campaign is a legacy feature i guess

[@Stad122]

If you want to know why it was so well written, it's because this is a prequel to battlefield 2142. So they just lifted the crisis backstory from that.

[@Lord_ofcinder]

Any fps game that goes “we are removing campaign to focus on multiplayer” fails super hard. Bo4 and now 2042

[@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370]

@@Lord_ofcinder except if you establish it as a multiplayer exclusive like Titanfall 1.

[@Westie]

They had the chance to make something truly awesome after BFV which didn't impress many people. They knew what players wanted. Unfortunately, they got it all wrong and now the franchise is on its last legs.

[@AxxLAfriku]

OH NOOOOOO!!! Most people agree that my vids are the worst on KZbin. I agree to disagree. Please agree to disagree with the haters, dear westoe

[@Slypooch]

It seems like a lot of companies and creators now a days don’t listen to fans. They seems to hate fans. Whenever a franchise listens to fans(sonic for example) the get roasted by the media saying they shouldn’t give in to them. But the last laugh is on them sonic is doing pretty well.

[@brafianblackfyre9220]

Love your vids man. You were actually critical about BF2042 throughout unlike jack frags and Level cap who just helped sell the lie before release.

[@Electro_Dude]

It’s already dead might as well double tap it just to make sure

[@GodhandPhemto]

Besides just releasing an unfinished game, they ruined the franchise by trying to fundamentally change the game and push Specialists for the sole purpose of trying to maximize MTX with selling skins. Sure they could of sold skins for nameless soldiers, but WHacKy cHaRactErs with personalities sell more according to their research probably. Also giving people powers like Grappling hook and Wing Suits killed gameflow

[@Bakutalk]

I really want to see what the development and behind the scenes was like for Battlefield 2042. It seems like it could be an episode of the gamers equivalent of Kitchen Nightmares

[@zurenity5460]

Just gordon ramsey in the corner shouting 'you forgot to add the scoreboard at launch you donkey!!'

[@sac-_]

the theory is that halfway through development, they jumped ship to a multiplayer instead of a BR like Warzone because they saw how everyone was getting tired of the genre, and the result was this

[@notimportant8643]

Dude that's a great idea for a show, 'Development Hell'

[@Sak-zo1ui]

The game is not that bad. Most people that bitch about it complain about the most useless stuff. Most of yall have not played since launch. Bf4 was launched the same way and turned into one of the best battlefields. 2042 is only blown up because the media. Most people have also downloaded bf2042 on origin and or ea’s app not steam. A lot of the stats are wrong but the game is dead on every platform but pc.

[@sac-_]

@@Sak-zo1ui Look fam I have played since launch and I’m just gonna have to politely disagree with you on that.

[@nessiecity7022]

Hearing charlie talk about halo infinite is like hearing my guidance counselor talking to me, apparently I have "potential" and I don't know how to "communicate"

[@bigdadybojangls9219]

The thing with Halo Infinite is that it can definitely still be redeemed. They nailed the core of the game, now they just need actual content

[@dracvich]

@@bigdadybojangls9219 Yeah it can probably still be redeemed, just a huge shame that it'll probably take until Forge launches in season 3 for that to happen But atleast on the bright side for Halo the new Flood Firefight mode added to MCC is fun af and the mod community hasn't slowed down on making fantastic custom content ever since the mod tools came out last year

[@Faded______]

@@dracvich ya on the surface its a nice update, except flood fight is only for halo 3 odst and its ridiculously easy, like way easier then regular firefight on odst. Unless you do duos or get 3 team mates who are all on xbox and have severe mental disabilities, floodfight is way too easy.

[@TOUD_]

@@bigdadybojangls9219 indeed, the game has pretty much no game breaking bugs or glitches, the only problem is that 343 are some fucking snails when it comes to releasing content.

[@nabeelqaisar7584]

I personally believe that halo can get back up, apex also was dying at launch but then after season 2 they really got their shit together and now it's one of the most played games on steam.

[@nicknguyen9767]

One of the most frustrating things about Halo Infinite was the radio silence from 343 from like December to mid April. They practically just popped by once or twice to say "uwu there's so much work to do and we are so helpless, please give us time". Even now, we got a roadmap that was promised MONTHS ago, and there's probably a month or 2 worth of content that they intend on dragging out for 6 months. And the battle royale they're planning got outsourced to another company anyway! All 343 does is make Halo games so why the hell can't they make a Halo game?? It's a sad time to be a veteran Halo fan.

[@peterk.2108]

yeah...uwu

[@PCsAddictionZ]

The saddest part about this is that they dumped the updates of Battlefront 2 to make this game, while battlefront has more concurrent players than Battlefield 2042. DICE did it again

[@imraduin]

How many times are you going to say Battlefront before you remember we're talking about Battlefield

[@PCsAddictionZ]

@@imraduin haha true. but it was 1 time tho xd

[@RogersGirl88]

@@imraduin you dropped the armor down the mines of moria and got gandalf killed so i’m just gonna cordially invite you to shut it.

[@imraduin]

@@RogersGirl88 relax, he made it back just fine 🙄

[@whatNtarnation90]

What's more sad is how terrible Battlefront 2 is. OG BF 1&2 were great. Battlefront 1 was eh, but had pretty good gunplay. Battlefront 2 is just terrible. But hey, that's EA for ya

[@Coeaxe]

Just to remind some people, most people on the forums were saying "It's just a beta" or "Don't judge the game before its full release," such an awful game.

[@ninjafrog6966]

And then those same people that told people not to judge the game before release got mad that people started judging it after release

[@borkguy]

@S U R V I V E hey that was your mistake to trust a AAA game in current year

[@BladeMaktar]

People literally say that about any game people shit talk before it releases lol

[@willisbronze9984]

i mean, its EA, literally the fan voted worst company for years, not that suprising. Idk if its bad luck or pure intention but Microsoft is buying some of the worst shit in the community

[@juuglord8509]

I was one of those people at a point in time and that's because most of the complaints were for things that did change like UI elements, textures and some bugs. I don't really remember people saying that for things like the actual gameplay, or classes, because we hadn't seen all of them, or the maps for the same reasons. The game is fundamentally flawed though.

[@hunterstalls6370]

Worst part about the failure of BF 2042 IMO is that they abandoned the support of Star Wars Battlefront 2 for it. A game that was on the verge of greatness.

[@Jokin_Jake]

Battlefront 2 was at it's peak when they cancelled it's live service. A true tragedy.

[@PatrickWDunne]

We were this close 🤏

[@notimportant8643]

Did they have any way to actually profit of BF2 though? If not I completely get why they abandoned it. They should have just stuck with the out the box FINISHED product with a enough content that $60 feels like a fair price. Then they could have sold Mandolorian content, clone wars (show) content and all the other upcoming TV shows as expansions at say $5-$15 depending on how many maps/characters/weapons/etc the expansion had. If they did this they could have been making money off BF2 for years if not a decade or longer.

[@jorena6597]

They stopped support for Battlefield 5, battlefront 2 & need for speed for bf 2042...

[@canadianbluepants9446]

@@jorena6597 and it was still rushed and horribly designed like how???

[@mathaijacob1345]

Concord: hold my drink

[@moviebad109]

I wish that as a software developer, when I release an unfinished, half baked product, I can look at my boss as he’s complaining about it and say “you’re just entitled.” And walk away.

[@Lamb666]

Just slap some in app purchases, to unlock future content. Got to keep those investors happy while half adding work you know.

[@Gandhi_Physique]

@@Lamb666 "Damn this game is boring, how will this make any money" "Well we made sure that the micro-transaction shop works flawlessly"

[@kidnamedfinger3958]

calling a triple A game indie ends up being more an insult to indie developers than to mainstream developers from EA

[@FayeTheNerd]

Get a life

[@FayeTheNerd]

@Don't read profile photo this dude

[@dotcomgamingd5564]

Especially since so many indie games are actually way better than some AAA games

[@kidnamedfinger3958]

@@FayeTheNerd I actually like these little virtual adventures but only when its non-self promo

[@kidnamedfinger3958]

@@dotcomgamingd5564 IKR DUDE INDIE DEVS NEED TO BE HIRED TO HIGHER BUDGET GAMES ASAP

[@Moonwake534]

This was supposed to be a golden age of battlefield and ended up not starting a dark age, but ending an age

[@Skateandcreate9]

It started a dark age *and* ended an era

[@trentonyoakum1627]

We're in the dark ages of gaming as a whole. I'm just waiting to get a good enough PC so I can use unreal engine 5 to make my own f****** game

[@QWERTY708100]

@@trentonyoakum1627 based man

[@trentonyoakum1627]

@@QWERTY708100 I'm lucky in a way, right now the bar for acceptable games is so f****** low, at this rate when my game comes out it'll be game of the year by default Edit: It's going to take me AT LEAST a couple years to publish, the AAA gaming industry has until then to get it's shit together

[@Moonwake534]

@@trentonyoakum1627 Let us know how it is/when it comes out, you have my full support 👍👍

[@srbrant5391]

Rule number one of advertising: Never. EVER. Insult your customers.

[@ShortsSupply2799]

What makes it even more sad is the fact that most people would be pleased with a game having battlefield 4 mechanics and new maps...At least I would

[@TheWolverine7]

i would be cumming my pants if they re-released bad company 2. not even a fucking remaster, just release the same exact game again with populated servers.

[@Venom-xd9st]

I know I would icl

[@drnolon]

Dude I loved BF4. Seriously, they could have just remastered or whatever that game with all the maps for say.. half price and it would sell well I bet. Shame..

[@generalsavage4103]

Oh wow this guy is edgy I read your name I swallowed gum fairly KZbin umat Let Me voice chat I swallow c**

[@Feelosopher__]

Don’t forget the BFV movement (with reduced sliding)

[@Patterrz]

I still have great memories playing Battlefield 3 and Bad Company 2, so sad to see it become so awful

[@camdenproductions69]

Battlefield 4 was good

[@gamerdawg4804]

@@camdenproductions69 nah

[@F34RDSoldier805]

Every Battlefield game BF3 and on released broken btw. People seem to forget that. BF2042s biggest blunder is that they will never turn this one around like they did with the other BF games. They just gave up at this point.

[@TR13400]

That is happens to every single franchise now days, they milk it until its dry. They shit on all the OG fans, and sell out for money.

[@convertiblebert591]

Bad company 2 was so fun online. Not too chaotic and fun blowing up houses

[@jaden8811]

BF1 is easily my favourite Battlefield. In a very selfish way I'm almost glad 2042 is a disaster because it means that I can still easily find full servers on Battlefield 1.

[@aijint]

same here as a bf4 enthusias

[@DaChimpster]

BF4 and 1 are still mad fun to this day. 5 was fun during the beta but it got old fast in my opinion. Rocked w then crouch running tho. Thank god I never spent my money on 2042

[@Giessepe]

Fax operations is still popping off and it’s always a blast to come back to from time to time. Probably my favorite as well

[@mert8395]

same but for bf4. im surprised it's doing better than bf4

[@Wulfjager]

Literally same. Battlefield 1 servers are still quite active and it's awesome. Why scrap a good title and move onto the next one if it's still a good title

[@SGTRandleOneOne]

I really feel bad for the groundfloor developers on Battlefield 2042. I genuinely believe that most of them wanted to just make a good Battlefield game.

[@jusbertmeza4424]

Dont give them excuses anymore. They have insane budgets and make even more than that in return there is no excuse for a bad game from AAA developer.

[@sauceman3672]

Back 4 Blood is in similar situation in my opinion, they advertised it as "from creators of L4D", but the fact is, it's from creators of Evolve, because L4D was 90%Valve and 10%TurtleRockStudios. People (including me) got scammed by preordering this trainwreck and now it has about 1/5 or less players playing right now that L4D2 has.

[@Andrikaz]

its even less then 10%, only 5-6 people, from which i heard sources that maybe a few left, putting the number down to around 4 or 3

[@BurgerPwner]

yea that's what got me hyped about it too. I'm so glad i played the free beta and there i realised i didn't like it, the gameplay just didn't feel exciting at all. After only 2 hours i was just like: nah this just isn't it. And i'm glad i didn't waste my money on that.

[@CodynMetube]

It was literally the same game as l4d.

[@calamityyy]

@@BurgerPwner this

[@theretrogamingnerd3316]

I wasn't excited for back 4 blood when it got announced. I know left 4 dead very well and Something about that game didn't feel left 4 dead to me. I never played it, I only saw trailers and gameplay footage of others playing it. It just didn't seem interesting to me... turns out I was right to not play it.

[@da_astra]

The one thing I can't understand is, how did this game end up being worse than Cod Vanguard. Blows my mind Edit: (2042 Specifically, I like Infinite)

[@Aegis-_-]

At least vanguard works

[@chacharealsmooth4667]

Vanguard is a good-ish game. It works well, gameplay is usual, not much wrong with it. Just a basic game

[@pixelfriendly2601]

@@chacharealsmooth4667 bUt iTs cOd sO iTs bAd

[@usamabinmuzaffar692]

@@pixelfriendly2601 Cod is bad in general because of how little it has to offer now. Vanguard is a literal reskin of MW19, down to every single UI button. I used to love cod but that was before I expanded my horizons and checked out other games and realised how little cod actually gives you in terms of gameplay.

[@orbitaldropshocktroopers]

Both are bad

[@erikm8373]

It's sort of funny how many games decide "we're going to be a live service" when you can count the total number of games that have had genuine success with the live service model on your fingers

[@KitchouaTembo]

And the worst is that they don't even try to learn from their errors. Dice MADE one of these failures whith BF5, you'd think they would have learned. A live service requires more than just cosmetics, it needs new content regularly and early to make up for the smaller content at launch. It also need hype to get people involved enough to stay behind the project. They failed at every point, that baffles me.

[@XenonArcher]

any mmo????

[@carminegalante4925]

@@XenonArcher im sure he is talking about in the same genre….

[@Crablover132]

@Xenon Thats the thing, MMO is built around that model, its apart of the genre. Spouting the obvious doesn’t make you smart, these games are trying fit a square peg in a round hole without even putting effort and they expect it to be a success lmao.

[@IBeChubbz]

I'm never usually a big FPS player but BF 2042 got me excited on announcement. Everything about it sounded fantastic, then the beta happened and I felt the joy leave my body.

[@GriziDaWiz]

This was such a ride to any who were seriously following this game. It was like a roller coaster except it is really short, and it has like a 89 degree 4 kilometre uphill, and then it goes down a 45 degree slope. Except they didn’t even finish the roller coaster and halfway down you plummet to your death.

[@Jack-cz4zz]

The worst part for me was that they took the devs off of battlefront 2, (which is one of my favourite games) so they could work on an absolute disappointment of a game. Very sad

[@doofin_nuts6317]

Same that was my biggest frustration

[@xayrosantacruz6923]

They were prob working on bf20242 and were like damn wtf is this shit , where to begin on fixing shit fuck this.

[@rRevilo64]

And the worst part is the Battlefront 2 devs had so much more Clone Wars content they wanted to add but never got the chance to because of this garbage. If they were never taken off of this we could’ve probably gotten Ashoka or Windu, but no. Go make Battlefield 2042 but don’t finish it.

[@BladeMaktar]

None of the shit they made worked after bf1 so they probably always thought they were wasting their time fixing the games no one cared about anymore so they just tried to start over with new games and low and behold that didn’t do them good either

[@MrZezXion]

I think it's important to note, Battlefield 4 has more concurrent players than is listed. When Battlefield 4 came out, it was only on Origin. It only came to steam in 2020, so Steam is only tracking relatively newer players. That shows even more so how pathetic it is.

[@markbavoso]

bf4 is a masterpiece. great player community too.

[@Boopity7739]

BF4 is also super popular on console too because it has fully custom servers. Pretty sure the BF4 player count is only a little bit lower than 5, if not higher.

[@ChefofWar33]

Battlefield 4 is still popping off on consoles.

[@paulregener7016]

Yeah I don’t touch any Battlefield since 2042 flopped. Why tf would I keep these other games alive when every single server host on PC is a guy who hasn’t left his room since the game came out and camps all the vehicles and then if you kill them they kick you. Only reason I stopped playing BF4 like 7 years ago

[@mrcontroversy222]

@@paulregener7016 SOUNDS like you need to git gud

[@AxylusMaximus]

What really bothers me is that EA apparently went out of their way to end all community driven BF2142 servers right before announcing this disappointing cash grab. They must have seen that 2142 was one of the most innovative battlefield games and had potential.. but only to ride the coat tails for a quick buck. I really miss 2142 and the team that made it. I wanted 2042 to be really cool like the old one..

[@Fireballun]

Yeah. Like 2042 doesn't even have Titan Mode. What. The. Fuck.

[@Temojikato]

I know right... 2142 is literally the best shooter we've ever gotten our hands on. Titan mode kicked ass.

[@unownnnn]

EA/DICE couldn't hide behind the "incels malding" argument that they hid behind with BFV. Both BF and CoD killed itself instead of killing each other

[@ChefofWar33]

Facts

[@xak4072]

that last sentence hits hard, fuck I love bf1 and I want to love another bf game (bf4 just didnt do it for me tbh) but its so hard

[@ChefofWar33]

@@xak4072 BF4 is the best though.

[@sleeplesshollow4216]

I'm still looking forward to MW2022 since I liked MW 2019 and the original trilogy, I've entirely given up any faith in Dice on any of their future games. There's making a shitty game (Vanguard) and making a half-baked dumpster fire (2042) to con your fanbase using the last visages of goodwill they had towards you.

[@sixgod5765]

@@ChefofWar33 facts

[@monke5157]

It literally just made me go back to battlefield 4 which has a dedicated playerbase and is still up to par with anything that could come out today

[@MarketUnderground]

Good to hear might have to give it a try 🤔

[@monke5157]

@@MarketUnderground it's still a solid game on pc.

[@Grogritark]

Word. Having more fun than ever on BF4 currently.

[@AveSequoia]

@@MarketUnderground bf4 is sooooooo good

[@lifewasgiventous1614]

Bf4 is so fucking amazing best FPS in my book.

[@WankersCramp69]

"We are going to take everything everyone loves about our games and take them out and leave it as a soulless husk" Sometime later. "What! Why don't people love it?!"

[@caraccident5357]

They know exactly what their doing. When’s the last time a AAA game was released for consumer enjoyment and not profits?

[@frostyfox1649]

*looks at CoD Vanguard* 👀

[@throbbingfellow1136]

@@caraccident5357 I don’t understand though, they’d make so much more profit if they focused on making sure the consumer enjoyed their product.

[@mzov_1724]

The way this room is lit made me think Charlie was being rendered on blender instead of the source engine like before

[@zachs_way2749]

I remember all the people talking about how 2042 was going to be a "COD killer" leading up to its release. It's crazy how far the game fell from everyone's expectations.

[@brizzle711]

They say that every time.

[@AndreiGrozea]

COD was busy killing itself

[@TheLongDon]

Battlefield used to be a cod killer franchise, after BF1 it was a joke rather than a real possibility

[@solarstrike33]

Every time someone says "{X} killer"... _run away!_

[@Bpinator]

Every single time a game comes out people buy into the hype and then it comes out and it sucks. Every single time.

[@AidanS99]

EA literally puts no effort into games anymore. And DICE has been stripped of all its talent. Some of my favorite gaming moments have been with BF1 and BF4 so to see the new game in such an awful condition is heartbreaking.

[@chillspud1363]

To be fair battlefront 2 is still good despite the shutdown

[@shearman360]

@@chillspud1363 what shutdown?

[@kfcmanager3199]

Ratio then

[@qquest1on]

@@shearman360 They don't release anymore content for the game now. I think that's what they meant?

[@user-op8fg3ny3j]

@@qquest1on isn't it overun by hackers and bugs?

[@mackantosh]

One thing about BF 4, 1 and 5 is that they were released on steam quite recently. Im willing to bet that the majority of people playing on pc are on origin. Therefore those charts of the previous BF games only show a fraction of the actual pc playerbase. Unlike 2042 which launched day one on steam and probably has most of its players on steam.

[@toddblankenship7164]

Totally, it's unskilled COD kids expecting gimmicks

[@whatNtarnation90]

@@toddblankenship7164 I prefer BF over CoD as well, but CoD without any doubt has EASILY more skilled players lmao... Battlefield player base are the most casual/oblivious gamers in any FPS. It's the main thing I hate about Battlefield... it used to not be like that.

[@toddblankenship7164]

@@whatNtarnation90 im not talking about twitch skill im talking about application of tactics, defending positions creating choke points with armor etc. COD requires twitch reflex and sliding up concrete stairs, its not skill per say it's more repetitive practice BUT some strat/tactics are needed for COD but overall theres a few formula's that work most the time to win.

[@dastook3725]

@@toddblankenship7164 no one's implimenting small unit tactics while casually playing bf with their friends.

[@toddblankenship7164]

@@dastook3725 I do but i guess thats why im always top 5

[@andrewokamoto]

I played Battlefield 1942 and Battlefield 2 when they first came out. They were the greatest games I ever played. I stopped playing video games due to to life but came back to Battlefield 5 and Battlefield 2042. Wow, things have certainly changed... 😢

[@itsinugami]

Thing is: There have been games that have fell off soon after/on release in the past, specifically No Man's Sky and Fallout 76; however, the teams behind those games have been working away at said games and they are both much better than they once were. Battlefield on the other hand... they are taking the easy route of, "let's make it free."

[@faaaaario]

Rumors are, also, that they are already working on the next Battlefield game, which means that they'll just ignore this one and move on to release another possible pile of crap.

[@itsinugami]

@@faaaaario Wasn't there an alleged rumour about there possibly being a Star Wars Battlefront 3 getting canned so that 2042 could be made instead? Whole lot of dookie choices being made.

[@esco8778]

No Man's Sky has been working it's ass off. Constant free updates and tons of new content. The initial launch left me with a sour taste, but I may have to give it a go again.

[@itsinugami]

@@esco8778 Same with Fallout 76. People want NPCs and Settlements? Got them. More ways to customize your base? Got them. More side missions for materials and/or Legendary weapons? Got them. I think No Man's Sky and Fallout 76 are the best 2 examples of, "Shit at first, but the creators put in effort to fix it." [Not saying the 2 are perfect games or anything now, but they are leagues better than what they once were]

[@karmicknight]

No man's sky I can understandably love and have been enjoying every time I hop on, 76 on the other hand is still on the same game engine that was used for morrowind; the same thing that made the game so awful in the first place and that's not going to change, that's also why lots of stuff in skyrim is complete jank such as dragon riding and also why notorious bugs have been carried over to 76 from older games. 2042 has no chance of ever being a good game since there's no profit in it for them to make it good; they'll just move on to the next game.

[@bingchilling8586]

I think AAA companies need to get the whole "a game a year" out of their heads, or even 2 years, our expectations of games now are higher, we want complexity, progression. These things take time, a lot of time, cyberpunk is now a fantastic game after all the fixed and that's been in the works for ages, I think they really have to be honest with us and themselves and say it is going to take a while to make these games fully fledged.

[@doot7730]

Look at several games. Not just cyberpunk. Red dead 2 took several years Minecraft took several years and still is updated. So many older games released better.

[@markbaker4425]

Tbh even if theyve fixed the dogshit in cyberpunk i dont wanna buy it cause it just encourages a 'fix it in post' culture. Same with no mans sky. If you promise a product. Delay it until you make the product.

[@optoq]

@@markbaker4425 i agree with you, but since it has happened with a lot of games i feel like there must be a reason behind it, especially with games like cyberpunk that had huge bugs and were somehow unnoticed before launch. Developers must not be testing the game enough or simply not getting the right people to test the game. I realise now that my point doesnt really make sense to yours but imma just post it anyway since i spent the time writing it.

[@markbaker4425]

@@optoq two words "greedy publishers" Publishers push devs on unreasonable shit and make the game rushed and worse

[@Malik-td2ft]

@@doot7730 hell, even older pokemon games that took a long time to make are better than their current games More proof that "1 game per year" is a total bs strategy

[@probro6722]

Battlefield 4 actually has most of its player base on Origin, it surely has a bigger player base than 2042. Hell, even BF1 and BFV have many players on Origin because Steam was added later on down the road. I'd suspect that 2042 actually has MOST of its players on Steam, while for example BF4, BF1 have most on Origin, and maybe BFV 50/50.

[@llJeezusll]

For BFV surprisingly Steam is 90% of its playerbase BFVs player count is also about 80% asia players But with 2042 no one really knows

[@slashz0r]

this is actually a really good point. makes these numbers look even worse

[@sk8erbyern]

@@llJeezusll BF3,4,1 and V ON ORIGIN were given away, is part of game pass, has been part of Amazon Prime or $1 Humble Bundle. No such thing happened for Steam

[@icymoney3255]

I have a dellusional friend who thinks the reason that it has so many bad reviews is that people get mad over a few bugs -_-

[@I_am_ENSanity]

I learned back with the absolute disappointment that was Mass Effect 3 to follow these 3 rules. 1) Never preorder 2) Never buy day 1 3) Never purchase microtransactions

[@joukeschat2486]

I learned after COD: Advanced War to never buy a game without watching gameplay trailers and youtubers playing the game to find out whether the game is fun and fit for me. Funny enough its how I found witcher 3 which slapped hard till it got too grindy and repetitive. Still got 50+hrs into it tho.

[@teetea7734]

It was Halo 4 for me.... and what's worse is that I lost the disc after a week and couldn't return it...

[@user-ii9vn6vo6k]

I'm glad people are realizing there are 3 easy ways not to get hard fucked by shitty game companies but how did it take everyone this long... Star Citizen and EA's track record isn't enough evidence for some people though.

[@desihayward2510]

Mass Effect 3 was pretty good

[@windebiesteultima3317]

Wasn’t the ending the only bad thing about mass effect 3?

[@treytucker7404]

Despite all the wrong EA has admitted they have done on their part when directing DICE in development. EA still turned around and blamed us for the games failure. By that time I knew they were never even going to try to patch up what they've done. As a result I uninstalled the game right afterwards and will never buy a another Live Service Game from EA again.

[@daredeviler2088]

So every game, correct? EA don't believe there's another option besides 'live service'.

[@coreytrevor3910]

@@koolaidman4869 Same, I stopped in 2019 after they copy and pasted NHL and NFL. Made it harder to play and grind for Free to Play, which in EA speak means, paying $100 for a game then spending money to keep up with online mut and hut modes. I'm also a happier person now and I pay my bills on time

[@bananasaur5209]

"will never buy a another Live Service Game from EA again" Until next BF game gets announced. Then everyone will be hyped because gamers have short memory spans

[@devanmcghee6123]

@@coreytrevor3910 I played madden and still do, but if they don't update franchise and face if the franchise and make it actually worth playing, I'm not gonna buy it. I rarely play mut anyway and get tired of defense not being worth anything

[@Cheesepuff8]

There still could be some good developers that EA publish, also I feel like “live service” barely means anything

[@moon-cyclist4565]

Imo EAs most recent Battlefield success was BF1, I was ADDICTED to that game, played it almost daily for at least a year. I loved the gunplay in that game, the vehicle system, everything. It was a unique take for a battlefield game and it stood out among a crowd of basic ass modern or post-modern shooters. Going back in time and letting us toy around with old tech and just have a blast while sparking an interest in an incredibly important and tumultuous time in history

[@ThMindFdr]

Because it was EA making Dice make a BF game to pull Cod kids from Activision because Activision was making some run along walls futuristic garbage at the time, its the ONLY reason that game was made, plain and simple, a casual pick up and play title hence why the meme Casualfield 1 popped up, the game was for Cod kids.Even in these comment sections the majority of ppl say BF1 was their first BF title and alot of Veterans of BF actually went back to 3/4 just after it was released because they didnt like it and BF1 was the catalyst for where the game is now regardless how fun it is/was and it wasnt a fun game at the beginning because the gun balance was beyond trash especially the medic class, nobodly played it, sniper ping pong on maps and automatico spam was ridiculous and it needed a CTE to fix it..people have very short memories.. OG devs left around that time and before it because they know the writing was on the wall..

[@BladeMaktar]

@@ThMindFdr You’re actually speaking facts

[@imthegoat94]

The vehicle system was garbage

[@robertrollins9068]

Honestly kind of hated most of the TDM maps but still fantastic and innovative, 2nd to the 3rd game for me. The light Howitzer was so fun to use too.

[@Jestersage]

@@ThMindFdr Objection: If they want to copy Activision that made "making some run along walls futuristic garbage", why did they not give us titanfall 3?? (Apex is a good BR game but NOT Titanfall) In fact that's the problem - RSPN make some good game, and then EA ignore them.

[@GREASEHAMMERGAMES]

DICE and EA are the type of companies who put more money into their advertisements than the actual gameplay and it shows.

[@UncleMyers37]

The worst part is that they charged over $100 dollars for it. Ok it may not be the worst part but it is still crazy they can rip people off like that.

[@DukeZenith]

it 59.99 ?? its terrible but not 100 dollars or even close unless ur paying for the ultimate edition

[@kaitacon4776]

@@DukeZenith I think he’s talking about prices in other countries, it’s $100+ in Australia.

[@DPedroBoh]

People are not obligated to buy it. I dont understand how people get scammed each year.

[@somerandominternetuser5730]

They didn't, base game is 70 bucks

[@UncleMyers37]

@@steveigotthis I'm pretty sure they lowers it because of the response the game got

[@brando8408]

The sad thing is that there was a lot of potential, and now it’s ruined. It doesn’t matter what they add from now or if they fix it entirely. They blew it and the series is likely dead now. I love that this issue isn’t being forgotten. As a huge fan of the series I definitely think it’s about time EA understands their actions and their neglect towards their consumers have consequences. It’s great to see the backlash and pushback from the fans of Madden, Fifa, Star Wars BF, and now Battlefield. HOLD EA ACCOUNTABLE.

[@KYSF]

It would be funny if Charlie commited joining Jacksepticeye's dad, because I upload banger content 😂😂😂

[@AnotherDisAcc]

Iirc they also had the audacity to say they would close the servers of the previous games to focus on 2042. Focus my ass

[@King0nyx]

Damn dude you got all the bots

[@AnotherDisAcc]

@YeaMan Some grammar wouldn't be a bad addition to your spam

[@goudenso8618]

CD project red seems to be learning. They have been making miles of progress with fixing cyberpunk, and they did delay witcher 3 next gen, instead of rushing it (they even took it's development on the main team, to ensure it comes out good.) I believe CD will move earth and sky to earn back the players trust, at least the developers will.

[@lizardgaming6597]

I feel bad for my dad who got this for me. Don’t get me wrong I appreciate the gift and neither of us knew that it was gonna be trash because it was near launch day but the second it was done downloading I saw the horrendous state it was in. After 3 games I never picked it up again.

[@Tenma2411]

damn. sorry but your dad couldnt have known like many players. I feel nowadays buying triple a games is a gamble. one of the reasons why i barely buy games at release or full price if its 60 bucks.

[@deadbunnys]

@@Tenma2411 yeah same. I don’t buy games on release anymore, I‘ve been disappointed too much. Nowadays I wait for reviews and until the price drops lmao

[@SkollTheWerewolf]

"Your expectations are brutal..." You mean... like... the expectations you *exceeded* 6 years ago, DICE?

[@Jiinnxxx98]

Just give over all the software to modders, and they’ll get us the game we deserve in a minute.

[@bishopslaughter6999]

Valid comment

[@choke-]

Every game with modding support is always made better with those mods wish more game devs did this

[@Emiichoco]

Rlly sad how true this is

[@Cheesepuff8]

Tbf though a lot of games/remakes/big expansions that are made by groups of modders get cancelled or take aaages to come out so idk

[@ashkebora7262]

I'm so glad the rest of the world is finally realizing how much better open source is than corporate trash. Look at everything that's awesome. It's 80% plus open source.

[@AbysswalkerD]

I still find it funny how people were speculating on which game would be better last year between Vanguard, 2042 and Infinite. And all 3 ended up being trash.

[@jffry890]

Infinite is unironically a great game at its core. It's only downfall is that 343i is taking the Halo 5 content drip-feed approach except 3 times slower. Vanguard and BF2042 will never be good games. Halo will be a good game in a few years when nobody gives a fuck about it anymore. It's not that Halo is a bad game, it's that 343i are shit devs.

[@phineos3284]

I don’t think a single person was waiting for vanguard to be good because nobody fucking wanted another ww2 cod we were fine with mw2019

[@Rcook422]

@@jffry890 idk man halo 5 had a shit ton of content at launch.

[@jffry890]

@@Rcook422 Objectively false because there was no Forge and the matchmaking playlists were sparce. Also, that's not a good thing. The next entry shouldn't have LESS content than the previous one. And it still took something like 2 years for Halo 5 to be considered "content complete" or whatever the term is for games that fulfill their live-service plan.

[@mrsparkk.7974]

What’s so ironic is that vanguard has the most players lmao despite it being shit. Ngl probably I slept on it but whatever

[@Chestwolf]

Had a coworker trying to tell me about the 3 new operators last night. As a 33yr old who's favorite FPS games were BF BC2-4 it took everything I had in me not to strike him.

[@mveytia]

Don't be sad, this is just how it works out sometimes.

[@Synoctic]

2:33 the original "Huawk Tuah"

[@ilikemusic3856]

"It's EA they will somehow find a way to fuck it up" - Videogame Dunkey

[@MarcussJay]

Love your pfp. One of my favorites from them.

[@duckyymomo5714]

Battlefield community is wild. Everyone talked shit on Battlefield V when it came out, and then Battlefield 2042 came out and everyone started to appreciate BFV

[@solarstrike33]

Same for BF1 when BFV came out, and BF4 with BF1.

[@OodDoodelic]

I've been playing BFV consistently since the Pacific content came out. It's been a really fun game. IMO the highest quality BF game (if you ignore all the shit that the devs tried to change). The final product is really great. BF1 was actually really great on launch.

[@MrRay168]

Almost like the community outrage pressured the devs to fix the game post launch, Pacific dlc was really good.

[@Lawnmower737]

@@MrRay168 except for all of the ones that weren’t finished, BFV for me will never be fun. Its just too bright and cheery for what it is not to mention the immersion is lost.

[@juicydrop1062]

BFV in its current state is actually pretty good. They were dropping some good content, but cut it off too soon. 2042 on the other hand is such a big step backwards in almost every aspect. It's simultaneously not well thought out nor well executed. Though BFV had a poor launch, it had potential and other good things going for it. It will take years before 2042 reaches a decent state. Even then, it still might not be a very good game because so many of the game's issues are in its foundation. Unless they start from the ground up, things don't look too bright.

[@semicolone]

I still can't wrap my head around the marketing tactic (not even sure if i can call it that) of shaming/ villifying the people that buys your product. what do you gain from publicly hating your customers? it can't even be classified as guilt-tripping, it's just a straight up "fuck you"

[@ProperlyBasic11]

It's been weird for me to watch this and other game releases. Normally, I'm used to the customer being an irrational idiot and customer service trying to calmly reason with them. The script has flipped lately with game companies. The players are the rational ones trying to improve the product and the companies are just irrationally lashing out and refusing to listen.

[@mariuszpudzianowski8400]

It becomes normal nowadays. Remember GTA Defective Edition? Grove Street Games devs laughed at people who criticized them because they made money. It's all about making quick buck now, they don't give a fuck if they have a job in the next decade or still have to pull some scams, all that matters is *now*.

[@thescout465]

Everyone:Watches the trailer. BF2042: Big disappointment when it came out in the first day

[@ethanholcomb9864]

When you tell your player base “if you don’t like it, don’t buy it or play it” then don’t be surprised when your next big release sucks… and nobody plays it 😂 don’t piss off your fans DICE

[@sp00kyd4ddy6]

They kinda speaking facts

[@DigitalinDaniel]

Actually the guy that said that took all the veteran developers with him and they're making Arc Raiders.

[@Smokey348]

didn't EA buy DICE? years ago?

[@MrMaskYT]

@@50k_Challenge_with_0video stupid bot with no heartbeat whatsoever

[@KrimitWARFRAME]

bf2042 was bad when it came out the first time, whoever thought real world advertisements in a video game level was a good idea is a sole less corporate zombie.

[@AdamAntium3]

BF 2042 was the biggest letdown ive ever experienced

[@straitdh7876]

Dying light 2 for me 😢

[@ohmygahdbilly]

Battlefield fans got to experience the feeling of being a marvel vs capcom fan in the modern age for a split second before reinstalling 4.

[@jod_hates_it_here6895]

same for me. Battlefield 4 is my absolute favorite game of all time, and 2042 looked like it would be Battlefield 4.5… instead we got fucking big team battle rainbow six siege with baby’s first call of duty gunplay and movement with SOME battlefield-isms.

[@burninghotdogs4876]

@@straitdh7876 for me I found the gameplay really fun but the story was terrible

[@DalaceE]

Red dead 2 has too be my most disappointing gaming experience, but I agree BF42 is top 5

[@Emphasis_On_E]

Bf4 which is like 10 years old is gonna beat bf2042 in active players. That should be a sign of what type of game battlefield players actually want.

[@tankie-ch3xj]

True

[@pranked126]

I am playing bf4 rn lol

[@thejeremymotley]

it already has, 2042 has gone under 1k and bf4 has over 2400 rn

[@poggerface5779]

They really shit the bed

[@mannymans]

Gaming is truly dead

[@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370]

Remember when a Battlefield game had 20 or 30 new weapons, 4 new maps, and 10 new gadgets for DLC?

[@Zarrex]

I'm a big Halo fan, I have almost 700 hours on MCC and have all 700 achievements. Like most people, I like Infinite's gameplay, but launching with barely any modes, insane desync, shitty customization, and no forge was such a blow to the game. Halo lives off community created content, and with Infinite we probably wont get any till the end of the year (or whenever Forge finally comes out) Edit: people asking about achievements, yes I have them all, 700 hours is a good chunk of time. My gamertag is "Zarrex PC" if you need to check for yourself

[@1billdorito]

That's why I'm a bit concerned with the Microsoft acquisition of Blizzard Halo and Forza are examples that Xbox Studios can make competently made games but they can't seem to understand how to keep their playerbase invested for months on end.

[@randomguy3849]

Honestly besides content, I just want more detailed armor color options and a good amount more free armor pieces

[@nuggetsnuggets6245]

You do not have all the achievements that's straight up bull with barely 700 hours

[@TheCaptainSplatter]

@@1billdorito cant be worse when blizzard is already at rock bottom.

[@stickslayer6381]

Props to your for the halo 2 LASO then

[@Nosttromo]

This has been going on since Battlefield V, where when the players complained about that weird mechanical arm shit in the trailers, the devs said "if you don't like it, don't buy it", then nobody bought it. I still remember the connection Battlefield 4 had with the community, straight up inserting Battlefield Friends easter eggs and achievements, building maps with the community, taking feedback into consideration and adding updates like conquest objective zone highlights, deep interface customization, colorblind support, an overall good dev-community relationship. No wonder it was the best title util now.

[@randomguys2]

I have to say BF1 is also really good but yeah, it's hard to believe that was the same studio. I remember listening to Levelcap about community feedback and if I recall correctly we also got dev updates on what's going on and whatnot. BF4 also launched in a ROUGH state but through sheer hard work and listening was made the best title they've ever released. And basically every launch since has been worse and worse. At some point it became sort of a staple that BF is only good a year after release. And they can't even manage that anymore.

[@Pupsker]

Rip to the both of them. I had fun with Halo for a week when it came out, other than that dropped it.

[@NotJpTem]

wo the warframe dude

[@lelenny2904]

Oh hey it's the Warframe guy

[@kenet362]

Only a week? What type of game do you want to keep your attention holy shit. I know it doesn’t have much content but at least it kept me entertained for like 2 months before I moved on

[@carminegalante4925]

@@kenet362 people wanna keep burning themselves out a week after a game drops, then say “yea, i domt play it anymore so its trash” like no lol you just sat there 24/7 for a week straight sweating it out

[@interestingcuber8591]

@@kenet362 my question is how the game even satisfied you for 2 months lmao. Most people it only lasted a week even Penguinz0 at 5:15 said that.

[@SirPream]

When it comes to Halo Infinite, there is currently no reason to play it when the MCC exists. After the campaign is completed and you've played about an hour of matchmaking, you've experienced 100% of what Infinite can currently offer. For $40 buckos, you get several triple-A games (most of which have impacted gaming in a huge, positive way), can participate in 8 Season passes for free at your leisure and tons of custom features including Forge. It will probably take another year or two before Infinite can stand on its own when compared to the MCC.

[@nigeltheoutlaw]

Dude, I remember so many people were SWEARING that Halo Infinite would save Halo. That it would make up for how bad 4 and 5 were. That it would be just like the good old days. I can't even get excited for AAA games anymore. If it comes from any big studio or publisher, it's going to be trash. I'm dreading to see how EA screws up the Dead Space remake, which they only made to try to screw over The Calliso Protocol.

[@SirPream]

@@nigeltheoutlaw The Golden Age of AAA games is more or less over. It's not impossible for a quality game to come out from AAA studios, but most publishers want their bottom dollar and will cut corners to max out profits. Best to get into emulation for older games or give indie titles a try - you'll save money and your sanity. I'm saving up for a Steam Deck for this personal endeavor.

[@nigeltheoutlaw]

@@SirPream Yeah, I realized that years ago, but it still hurts given they consistently target things I love that I was hoping they would forget about. Goes for all the "adaptations" of books, comics, and games I loved too, like the trash Halo show (and the Witcher show, and Rings of Power, and The Wheel of Time...) I've been replaying a lot of older games and really enjoying it. There's some gems I slept on out there, and I haven't owned a Nintendo since the 64 so I have a lot to catch up on there. Looking forward to Splatoon and Pikmin.

[@ryanrasmussen5346]

“Sailing right into Valhalla, god rest his soul” beautiful words

[@ZTenski]

They're probably gonna watch this and say "You know what battlefield 2057 is gonna need? NFTs. That'll get the gamers on our side!" They spent so much time pleasing shareholders that they forgot they exist at the behest of their customers.

[@Thomaswalton9801]

their shareholders have jumped ship because of this lmao.

[@sac-_]

yea fam they ain’t gonna add nfts, wouldn’t make sense when they legally still need to deliver 4 seasons worth of content that people paid for before launch.

[@constantcoldsweats8714]

Battlefield 1 is one of the most beautiful and immersive FPS games ever created and i dont know what happened at DICE after BF 1's release but theyve just been shitting all over themselves after BF 1 came out. They need to get back to that level of passion for the next Battlefield game cause i feel like DICE has one more chance here to regain there playerbase or else theyre fucked for good.

[@jaden8811]

A lot of the important devs left Dice after BF1 launched.

[@jacksonlarson6099]

Here we are six years later and I still fully believe that Battlefield 1 is the best looking and sounding FPS made.

[@jaden8811]

@@jacksonlarson6099 It certainly is. I think Modern Warfare 2019 also had great graphics and sound design, but it just lacks that little bit of immersion.

[@SuperMicklovin]

Apparently it was a real hastle to EA to sign off on it since World War 1 is bit more niche and less marketable/known than world war 2. Dice actively had to FIGHT to get it made so it was definitely a passion project for them.

[@canadianbluepants9446]

@@SuperMicklovin and well look at it best battlefield in years, hmmmmm maybe EA need to take a further look at that

[@XjhX-xf6uc]

Concord is the new failure.

[@SuperiorGothBun]

It still amazes me how Battlefield hit a low for awhile after Battlefield 4, then hit their stride again with Battlefield 1, only to derail the series back into unfinished/unplayable state like Battlefield 4 over a decade ago.

[@2Stoned2Care153]

I remember that Battlefield 4 launch that hit detection was unplayable for like a month but made up for it but 2042 glad i saved my $60

[@thyoofinator3753]

I find it funny but I had fun when BF4 released. Yet again I only played with friends at first so we were just having a good laugh at the bugs, and it actually felt like there was content; and they actually fixed it too. 2042 just feels like EA took a massive shit on a plate and served it as gourmet.

[@trallakid]

Bf4 launch was not as bad as 2042s. Yeh for the first couple weeks the game was quite buggy and had server connection issues but they were pumping out content at launch. the game had 2 dlcs out within the first couple months and loads of fixes. it’s been like 6 months since bf2042 came out and the only ‘content’ they’ve added is a couple of skins and some QOL features that should have been in the game since launch.

[@ilikewindows3455]

@@trallakid don't forget the fucking bare bone scoreboard that doesn't even show post game stats

[@mrmystykl]

I have never seen Charlie so passionately disappointed with himself, can agree, really bad game.

[@crimsonwolf866]

Shame indeed, 2042 was hundred percent a blatant eSports corporate scheme bullshit. They have character based classes similar in most eSports games to have this so called character mains and shit. They refuse to release infantry only maps. I'm very sure the main downfall like every EA game is the corporate choking down the developers throats rushing release and threatening pullout on investment.

[@Silverado-pq6xe]

Definitely not disappointed with himself lol

[@irishjay9485]

@@Silverado-pq6xe he basically said he was disappointed in himself after giving it a higher rating that it deserved originally

[@Void-by3ti]

More people should honestly check out Squad. It is literally everything I wanted out of Battlefield last year. Modern large-scale shooter with the same exciting moments as Battlefield. Would be cool to see more people play it

[@ianturnbow7011]

Playing Squad with my Squad on our Nintendo 64s with Dolby Atmos sound engineering is prime! Viva los tules.

[@thommyavv8905]

Yeah, squad is a good game. It's very communication based, which means it can be harder for the less social, but you get a real great community. I would recommend taking a look at World War 3, and their newest updates. I think that game will be a good battlefield alternative

[@Void-by3ti]

@@thommyavv8905 Oh yeah for sure, I forgot about WW3. Great alternative too because it literally does have many of the same concepts of Battlefield! Honestly a lot of these alternatives are win-win's. Less money for EA, which has proven it doesn't care about its fanbase, nor does it deserve its money, and more money for smaller studios that are doing what EA has failed to. Plus, you get 2 really fun games lol

[@acidicjosh3813]

Hell let loose is a gem and basically squad with WWII painted over it (in a good way). The atmosphere lives up to the name and allows you to enter back into combat as long as your squad lead places an outpost.

[@STINKYFINGER223]

I'll check it out, thanks woadie.

[@nathantiffen5158]

The fact Halo launched without Co-op or Forge... and they said it would take a year+ to implement them... like what.