The Biggest Fallen Giants of European Football

[@he_football]

Some say that for every person who subscribes a Football Manager enthusiast somewhere out there gets a girlfriend

[@kindtank]

😂 where's my girlfriend?

[@he_football]

@@kindtank I am shipping her as we speak

[@gunders85]

This was great stuff. Can easily see this channel growing. Also wanted to make a shoutout to Rosenborg as one of the more recent sleeping giants. From 1988 to 2006 they did not win the league in 89, 91 and 2005. Was dominating some in the mid to late 2010s again, but won their last title in 2018 and has been surpassed financially by other clubs after being a domestic financial powerhouse for all my life

[@he_football]

Thanks so much I'm glad you liked the content. Rosenborg has the potential to become a fallen giant if they are not careful for sure

[@gunders85]

@@he_football I think they fell into that category last winter. From being a team that could recruit players out of reach for everyone else (except FC Copenhagen) in Scandinavia to admitting "we dont have the finances to recruit like Bodø/Glimt can." A club that should be a fraction of their size

[@he_football]

I might do a video if I can find enough sources to what caused this

[@gunders85]

@@he_football Cool. Similarly to Man Utd i think the main reason was the departure of a legendary head coach combined with poor board management

[@he_football]

@@gunders85 Thanks for the video idea. I'll see what I can come up with

[@rvn-f8y]

Very good video i was surprised that it is a small channel you have big channels quality keep it up my friend👍🏻❤️

[@he_football]

thank you very much ❤️

[@krishnasadhanaofficial4292]

Literally around the time you posted this video, Bursaspor, one of the only six teams to have won the Turkish Super Lig and only the second one from outside Istanbul, got relegated to the fourth tier of Turkish football

[@he_football]

Oh wow I didn't know that. Thanks for sharing but what happened to them? Why are they so bad?

[@reuben524]

@@he_football randomly saw them get recommended for a playthrough in fm23, not sure of the complete story, but they had a huge debt problem due to corruption(saw a reddit post from a local fan regarding this not sure) due to which they couldn't sign any player

[@he_football]

Jesus. Thanks

[@Goombasareawesome]

Rovers also won the 2002 League Cup

[@he_football]

Somehow I missed that. Thanks for letting me know

[@bobngo5311]

Great video again mate 👍

[@he_football]

Thank you very much

[@shawnmason5551]

A brilliant video, thank you so much for your hard work.

[@he_football]

Thank you very much for the kind words. It means a lot

[@alekk69]

Great vid!

[@he_football]

Thanks. Glad you liked it

[@listkiewska]

Your video is a masterpiece! Thank you for this rather rich account of fallen giants. I also think that good football does not end at the borders of Germany and Poland - especially having in mind that I am on the eastern side of it. My favourite club, Polonia Warszawa, is somewhat a Phoenix club too - even though we haven`t produced that much of silverware trough history, it is indeed a very popular and well supported club. We have been champions of Poland for the last time in 2000, but suffered an administrative relegation to the fifth tier of Polish football in 2013. Since then, we were able to go all the way up to the second tier, where we`ve been struggling this season.

[@he_football]

I am very happy you liked the video. I think Eastern Europe is so overlooked in the world of European football. I am planning videos on all Eastern European countries and their teams. I just looked at Polonia's page on Wikipedia and saw Ebi Smolarek played there. Remember the hype around him at one point?

[@listkiewska]

@@he_football Sure! I remember the goals he scored for the national team en route to Euro 2008, it was a very special moment. He played for our club in 2010, and despite a good start, his spell at the club was not really exciting at all. I'll be glad to watch your videos about Poland! ⚽🇵🇱

[@listkiewska]

@@he_football and, for the record, Polonia Warszawa won today 😏

[@he_football]

@@listkiewska Poland will for sure get a video on my channel

[@BURNLEY87]

loved this

[@he_football]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@teddipenndegrass8359]

Great to be reminded that there are clubs from Eastern Europe with great history. It’s a shame but I don’t think we’ll see such diversity at the top of the European game again with how football is going.

[@he_football]

That's why I lile the Europa and Conference leagues because we get some diversity

[@franohmsford7548]

@@he_football Do we though? Europa League finals since 2015... - Sevilla beat Liverpool - Man U beat Ajax - Atletico beat Marseille - Chelsea beat Arsenal - Sevilla beat Inter - Villareal beat Man U - Frankfurt beat Rangers - Sevilla beat Roma That's 5 English finalists, 5 Spanish finalists, 2 Italian finalists, 1 German finalist, 1 Dutch finalist, 1 French finalist and 1 Scottish finalist. - And the Conference League... - Roma beat Feyenoord - West Ham beat Fiorentina So already 2 Italian, 1 English and 1 Dutch finalist. If it's Aston Villa vs Fiorentina in May it will not be a surprise. Though Olympiakos vs Club Brugge/Viktoria Plzen or PAOK vs Fenerbahce would be nice.

[@he_football]

@@franohmsford7548 The finalists may be from top leagues but the quarters and even the semis sometimes contain very diverse teams

[@zapre2284]

11.40 ....'In the hands of a competent owner' . If only...If only !

[@he_football]

Didn't Moshiri say he was going to sell up?

[@Mufcsalford]

How do you get that voice and I like your content

[@he_football]

Thanks. What voice do you mean?

[@Mufcsalford]

@@he_football the one in your video

[@he_football]

@@Mufcsalford If you mean my voiceover here are the settings I use: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWbHkIafq7Rsp5osi=st01tjczVvax2iet

[@Mufcsalford]

@@he_football thanks

[@he_football]

@@Mufcsalford You're welcome

[@StellaRossaGiacomino]

FORZA GENOA, could you talk about the robbery of 1925

[@he_football]

Oh wow I just read a little about what happened. I might do a video on it. Thanks for letting me know

[@StellaRossaGiacomino]

@@he_football I know a looooooot about Genoa, and that is just the tip of the iceberg

[@he_football]

@@StellaRossaGiacomino Do you know why the fascists liked Bologna? Or why they disliked Genoa.

[@StellaRossaGiacomino]

@@he_football Arpinati was Bolognese, and the Genovese were linked to the English, and I also think it was Togliatti's club

[@he_football]

@@StellaRossaGiacomino This is a very interesting story

[@lunarc8141]

07:51That's false, Bastia go to the finale of the UEFA Cup just a year after

[@he_football]

I forgot to check the UEFA Cup records 🤦🤦🤦

[@thntte2345]

Monaco also reached the 1992 UEFA Cup Winners Cup final

[@he_football]

@@thntte2345 Forgot to check that one too 😂 I really made a mess of it

[@lunarc8141]

@@he_football And Marseille go in 1991 to the UCL final, where they lost on penalties against Belgrade

[@he_football]

@@lunarc8141 Right. Jesus I made a mess of that statement 😂

[@propatria3517]

Deportivo La Coruna,Real Zaragoza,FC Santos....

[@he_football]

Depor only have one league title and were never really dominant, Zaragoza spent most of their time bouncing between divisions and Santos are not european. So imo they aren't really giants

[@avadahmer]

Racing Paris have won one league and five domestic cups and now play in the fifth tier of French football. They belong to the fallen giant category

[@he_football]

I somehow missed them

[@avadahmer]

You could even add Bordeaux if you do a second video about this type of clubs. They have been relegated to 3rd tier as of now, but could well be relegated to 4th or even disappear completely and start again in the 6th or 7th tier.

[@he_football]

@@avadahmer I just heard they are about to dissolve. Incredibly sad

[@koopalibrary]

not completely fallen, but far from their glory days : rsc anderlecht and kv mechelen

[@he_football]

Anderlecht only have themselves to blame. USG came in with fresh ideas and they need to modernize to keep up

[@koopalibrary]

@@he_football yes and no. they needed a new stadium for a very long time, but hard to do if you are not allowed to build one by the governement. Aside from that they suffer from the same fate as other great clubs like ajax, psv, celtic, ... . In that they were forced into becoming a selling club. Only a handful of clubs that are buying clubs. (Man city, Man Utd, Chelsea, Real, Barca, Bayern). They can't keep their good players cause they can't keep up with the salary given by other clubs. If they could line up with say dendoncker - lukebakio - saelemaekers - bornauw - praet - duranville - lukaku - lokonga - tielemans - doku (i think youth products all) alongside their current squad they be able to at least somewhat compete. But they can't hold on their players cause of money. Not that some blame does not fall on them. some bad decision were made. but some was just lack of financial clout.

[@he_football]

@@koopalibrary Belgium is a really weird case because you have these old giants that are becoming selling clubs in a league where a lot of clubs are part of multi club ownerships and the Belgian league is basically being colonized

[@BAKON581]

Bro sneaked on the smb on the thumbnail 💀💀

[@he_football]

What's smb?

[@BAKON581]

@@he_football Sad Mackem B*stards AFC Sunderland

[@he_football]

😂😂

[@he_football]

@AK47Warrior SMB was explained to me earlier, FTM I didn't hear until now haha

[@MichalSuchanek-oc9tr]

Dukla won a lot because it was propt up by the communist regime, also at the start or communism players had to work for the company the team was assigned to (army for Dukla) and the regime forced a lot o players to change teams to make Dukla or Sparta win (they made them the best teams ect.), after the fall the club was no longer supported by the regime and fell. Slavia was concidered a capitalist merchant class club by the party so it was supperesed, thats why the only won 1 czechoslovak cup during communism.

[@he_football]

As soon as I read that it was the army club I knew where their success came from. Across eastern Europe the army/police clubs always were successful

[@charliezobel511]

@@he_football Dynamo Berlin and Dynamo Dresden were the Stasi clubs but ironically even in those socialist totalitarian times their respective fan scenes were very right wing.

[@he_football]

@@charliezobel511 Former communist clubs being right wing is so funny. I mention both clubs in my video about fallen giants in Germany and am planning a deep dive on them

[@charliezobel511]

@he_football well one really mental irony of the Berlin situation is that in the old days before the wall came down Hertha fans were very tight with Union fans thus sharing a joint contempt of Dynamo. Even after the collapse of socialism and of course both sets of fans were freely able to mingle with no restrictions the close ties continued for many years. Over the more recent past as Union hasn't just become a close rival but has actually overtaken Hertha on the pitch the fan friendship has deteriorated. The Ultras of both clubs actually hate each other now which would have been unthinkable 30 years ago. From what I understand the younger generation at Hertha have even formed a friendship with the youth at BFC Dynamo in a sort of 'anti Union alliance'. Whilst the older BFC Dynamo lads from the DDR Oberliga times are pretty tight with Magdeburg nowadays.

[@he_football]

@@charliezobel511 Sometimes football fan alliances are more baffling than politics 😅

[@robinrea479]

Racing Club de France !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@he_football]

I missed them during my research

[@WildIlic]

Like if FM is better then $ex

[@vladimirristic2963]

Where are Red Star Belgrade, Steaua, Notingham Forrest, Hamburger SV ? They were European champions.

[@he_football]

Hamburg are in my video about German fallen giants Steaua and Red Star are the best teams in their league and Forest are in the prem after many years

[@vladimirristic2963]

@@he_football But don't you think about discrepancy between East europe & West European teams because high influx of money that made today's football a bit generic. During 60's, 70' and 80's underdogs were winning European Cup and now they are playing playoffs to even qualify for CL. Not critisizing, just pointing how FIFA and UEFA are corrupted. Great video, just think you should make some about forgotten giants.

[@he_football]

@@vladimirristic2963 I am from Eastern Europe and yes I think the UCL is boring in terms of diversity. I am doing a series of videos looking on Eastern European football and its issues. Bulgaria and Romania are out already and I think Czechia will be next. But yes a video on forgotten teams from Eastern Europe might be a good ideea

[@vladimirristic2963]

@@he_football Keep on, you are doing a great job, I think that Dinamo Kyiv(CWC winner), Red Star's golden generation ( I' m a beet biased cause it's my team), Steaua's golden team, PSV, Bordeaux, Parma, Verder etc. should be mentioned because they gave us some of the greatest football artists we saw on the pitch. You are welcome to come to Belgrade Derby on Rajko Mitić Stadium, I'm sure you saw the atmosphere.

[@he_football]

@@vladimirristic2963 Thank you so much. I'm a bit afraid of that derby 😂😂

[@brianstones6234]

Glory Glory Man United!!!

[@paulcaib4352]

If it wasn't for Mussolini

[@he_football]

We would have one less dictator to laugh at 😄

[@nemanjakojicic1990]

Sunderland giant? Hahah wtf 😂 you obviously don't have any knowledge of football

[@he_football]

I explained their success in the video....