The Biggest Flops In Yugioh History - Crossout Designator (2021)

[@janithernest3929]

Flopout designator

[@Salvare___000]

or as the new invention of Dr. Dooferschmirtz: Crossout Flopinator

[@aliastheabnormal]

Dub Kaiba: You're a third rate card in a fourth rate deck!

[@lowkeyRocketRegime1]

Pause

[@idosarts_and_krafts]

​@@Salvare___000brilliant

[@brandonscott5544]

GREAT 👌 MEGACAPITALG,

[@regimania2502]

I feel like Crossout Designator only really sees play in the TCG due to the fact that Called by the Grave is limited.

[@Rabbitlord108]

I actually saw someone saying that Called By The Grave should be banned a while ago. Yes. Really.

[@Joao-lw5pj]

@@Rabbitlord108 there will always have that person that will demand a certain card to be banned because it stops their 50 step combo.

[@Rabbitlord108]

@@Joao-lw5pj True.

[@nelsal6416]

Yeah my friend has a solid opinion where for called by it should be banned or at 3, 1 is just odd

[@keidozzz2445]

​@@nelsal6416that just every tcg player being annoying

[@theermac6024]

It's so interesting that Konami bans and limits cards because they want creativity in the specific card choices a player uses, but they somehow manage to make everyone play tbe same 7-10 cards, *specifically because Maxx C exists*

[@cuttlefish6839]

Thank the tcg it banned the broken bug

[@Lmabark]

@@cuttlefish6839 And then they ban Purelly and Superheavy with 2 weeks from the new support comming out cuz KOMONEY

[@cuttlefish6839]

@@Lmabark purrley was super unwarranted and they ended up hitting the wrong memory. But to be fair fuck SHS and what that deck did. Literally hate decks like it

[@alex_zetsu]

If this is how Konami treats decks, I want my 3 copies of Pot of Greed back.

[@codeblue455]

I play Crossout with my Ghotis and can use it offensively to banish a fish tuner during my opponent's turn and get it back during my standby phase. Or i can use it defensively.

[@kenja0685]

Exactly. Ghoti is probably the best user of this card. It's like running 3 additional Gold Sarcs where 3 of them kill common handtraps.

[@ItsMoejave]

but wouldnt that only apply in the mirror match? or are you just banishing a card randomly for cost lmao

[@cosmicfab7874]

@@ItsMoejave Ghoti is a Deck that want their Cards Banished Specially the low level monsters because once banished, they will Summon themselves in the next turn. Ghoti Plays on your opponent's turn. So, By Banishing one of the low level monsters, You can effectively Use them next turn during the Standby Phase, Which is actually very Good for this particular Archetype, It helps to accomplish its goal.

[@SwagMaster824]

You and like 4 other people are the only people playing Ghoti so shout-out to you bro lol 😆

[@tonys202]

before watching this i can already say that crossout had much more succes in both OCG and MD, while also getting limited in one of them but its mostlikely thanks to Maxx"c" being still at 3 there

[@cuttlefish6839]

Yeah Maxx c should be banned. Imagine getting the best floodgate in the game vanities emptiness at worse and getting a draw your whole deck at best.

[@jayduel7897]

The only reason it's still at 3 in master duel is best of one and the fact they turned up the draw rate on ash blossom

[@BratShemi]

​​@@jayduel7897rossout is at 1 in md brother

[@CancerArpegius]

​​​@@cuttlefish6839h OCG's game model is 'draw the out' and that's why so many degen floodgates exist. Rhongo isn't illegal because it's outtable via XYZ Encore, even if it's obscure AF, it's an out and it's your fault for not playing it. That's how Konami JP sees yugioh. (Cause Yugi wins the game by drawing the out. If you didn't draw the out, you deserved your loss. After all, luck is part of your skill. )

[@cuttlefish6839]

@@CancerArpegius doesn't change my point nor my opinion ocg is a garbage format and MD is made worse because of it

[@CaptainMarvel4Ever]

God I love how much G's videos feel like full on academic lectures about the game.

[@Clonekiller66]

Crossout Designator being able to snuff out Nibiru is something people undervalue. If you have the nut hand and can do a full combo. Preemptively playing Crossout Designator and naming Nibiru before you go full throttle with your 20+ Special Summons is something I've done a fair few times.

[@aceclover758]

Toxic combo players

[@asdfjkl3944]

Ot you could, like, wait until they use nibiru and then use crossout

[@johnwickfromfortnite9506]

konami wanting to create deck diversity and creating a card that in order to even activate, you need to have the same cards as your opponent is the most konami thing ever

[@FGj-xj7rd]

This card is mandatory in the OCG because they have Maxx C legal.

[@ProtossTempest]

I've joked about it, but partly serious. OCG, they do it like a play, Scene 1, Scene 2, they are more inclined to do it like a dance. In TCG, it's "Fire All Weapons. Shoot first ask questions later"

[@troytheboy1985]

its not really we've all played MD and hardly see it ive seen called by more

[@puppieslovies]

​@@troytheboy1985crossout is at 1 in MD

[@WhipLash42o]

Pretty low IQ take bud.

[@SedatedGhostwriter]

We don't play Crossout ever since it got limited. Rather have CBTG than Designator. Not worth the deck space.

[@vanidemo]

That "play to win" and "play not to loose" analysis was very interesting, never thought about it that way

[@mr_rakar]

Lose*

[@Deadlad69]

He could make a whole video just about that concept through the history of the game. That would be awesome content.

[@vonwolfe1310]

We don't want to be caught playing too loose now. We've got to be tight like Called By The Grave's hand around an Ash Blossom's neck.

[@mitchellmartin4580]

I feel like Master Duel is the best litmus test for whether Maxx C is the reason why designator isn't used in the TCG- Maxx C is at 3 and Designator is at 1, and designator is a staple.

[@milesandrews6711]

Designator is barely a staple in masterduel Its only really used in decks with the space to fit it

[@charlesfort6602]

​@@milesandrews6711that's wrong, you literally start building any of your decks with 3 ash 3 maxx c 2 called by and 1 crossout, it's literally the meme about decks have 31 cards in md

[@milesandrews6711]

@@charlesfort6602 completely untrue Most decks only build with 3 Maxx c, 3 Ash and 2 called by Very seldom do people also include Crossout because they'd rather keep their deck more consistent than have 1 more answer to Maxx c Crossout is more so used when other hand traps are also in the meta like nibiru because many decks struggle to beat that card and at that point Crossout holds more utility than just answering Maxx c or being apart of the Maxx c mini game which is why it's used more

[@charlesfort6602]

@@milesandrews6711 no

[@milesandrews6711]

@@charlesfort6602 that's not an argument

[@StrelitziaVA]

Crossout is a card that only makes sense in the TCG if you already happen to run the handtraps that hit your deck heavily. Part of the reason the card saw a lot of play on release (aside from hype) was that Tri Lyrilusc was already playing droll for the mirror, and nib for everything else. both cards that hit the deck very hard so the crossout was always live

[@johnblunt6693]

It's also a card that is significantly better in meta decks than rouge since the likely hood of facing a mirror is significantly higher and you're probably already playing the same handtraps that hurt you

[@69ronin30]

In OCG, the gameplan is to resolve the main play as consist as possible so if people know which card is counter your deck (Nibiru for example) player would play Crossout to counter those handtrap staple to try to resolve their gameplan. It's not popular in TCG I think because people can just play Extender to play through those Hard handtrap or simply play something else instead (That's one of the reason why TCG really like to combine different deck together to play incase you got handtrap)

[@manporo5865]

I remember I randomly cracked this card off of a pack when the $100 price tag was there. Literally yelled what kind of a moron would pay $100 for this hunk of garbage. Day of, peope laughed me off. 2 weeks passed and when I went in I just asked where them retards who payed $100 at? No one was having any of it except the store owner

[@pickyphysicsstudent201]

Another issue is that not every format has a clear answer on what handtraps to use. Nibiru, Droll, Dimensional Shifter, etc all come and go depending on what is the meta threat but diverse formats need diverse handtraps. Ash was reliable to see years back but now most decks don't run it (or at least not as much as a go-to option). Besides, at the highest level of play, people are purposely playing with respect to said handtraps. High level Kashtira-players will play around Nibiru, as opposed to running Crossout. That all being said, I do like Crossout as it has a specific niche use and is very well desigend for mono-formats. People will always consider it as a tech choice and try to calculate the probabilities of success to failure. This is better than pack filler, at the very least.

[@mattcgw]

Yugioh Master Duel begs to differ with Ash Blossom.

[@troytheboy1985]

@@mattcgw master duel is not the tcg we are talking about the TCG here this is a video about the TCG

[@SwagMaster824]

Everyone is still running ash in almost every deck I don’t know why people are saying most decks don’t run it.

[@Luna-Starfrost]

This whole comment became a laughable joke when that dude said "High level Kashtira players".

[@cuttlefish6839]

@@SwagMaster824 because MD and ocg have Maxx c legal but we are talking about the tcg not those other inferior formats. Ash in the tcg becomes better or worse depending on the format. Sometimes ash isn't impactful enough so it's not run in favor of other handtraps but in formats with the broken bug its always live and always needed as Maxx c is literally vanities emptiness or the best draw spell in the game

[@BradleyBarba-km9qu]

I remember having a super tri hard friend of mine dropping over 150 for his playset of designator. Secretly, i thought the card was as good as he made it out to seem. But the funniest thing happened when i told him, but hey what if you have no valid targets against your opponent He regretted buying them after that moment

[@digitalduken9973]

This is still the best out of archetype nibiru counter we've got currently. I think if they banned called by when crossout was released it would have saw way more play and probably would still see play today.

[@bobisjustlost]

I guess I got ocg mentality then. Crossout is god send in the decks I play

[@Marassandar]

After playing Master duel for a while, i can say that the only reason i have Crossout in my deck is Maxx C. It comes in handy sometimes in mirror matches or to negate a handtrap, but it never feels as impactful as when you stop Maxx C from resolving. (It's also an extremely good card in formats where nibiru/droll are prevalent)

[@ISSO1407]

The most important thing about this card is that his helmet still looks like it was photoshopped into the artwork in a 2 minute hack job.

[@chilogutierrez8760]

Crossoit designator is amazing. It stops hand traps and prevents you from getting destroyed from an evenly matched. It’s so good by the way…. That it’s at 1 in ocg. Tcg players honestly kinda just suck

[@ITSJUSTMEFORNOW]

I think crossout in the tcg should be used more for board breakers, or floodgates like dimensional barrier instead of handtraps.

[@DigiTism]

I agree and it’s also good in mirrors. Something immensely satisfying about calling Branded Fusion, Kashtiratheosis, etc. If you’re only thinking of the card for hand traps, you aren’t being versatile with your thinking.

[@randomprotag9329]

cross out is the perfect example of a tier 0 check. for it to see too much use the meta or indivitial careds have too be to powerful and widely used. the OCG was the perfect example of this where because max c is so easy to activate and so powerful cross out was a good anti max c card, max c was being played anyway so it took up no extra slots. the tcg shows the better format where cross out is just ok and need specific type of decks to be used in and the cross out has the likely downside of taking more than the playset in the deck

[@GhostlyGhost333]

I still have my crossout designators from the 2021 tins. All 8 of them as the case I opened had all of that, but only 2 each of nadir servant and triple tactics talent. I feel that one day, it might see play in the tcg. Maybe with the right banlist or format.

[@SheruMuko]

I use it with @Ignister. The reason why is so I can deal with the hand traps that would shut down my turns. I didn’t have to worry about running weird card as I would run them anyway. Edit, I found a typo. And for about of clarification, if my @Ignister deck goes off once the match is over. 12 interruptions from one card combos and they are consistent.

[@chrisb.2028]

Funnily enough, whenever I play and draw crossout designator, I rarely use it against maxx c, either it came out too late to stop it or the opponent simply didn't had maxx c, I end up using it against ash, imperm and call by more often than not, heck I even use it once against a dd crow and a havnis, I think crossout shines the most in more uniform and closer meta than anything else, if everyone plays the same cards in larger quantities then there's a good chance losing one of the cards isn't a big deal so long you can stop your opponent from playing or running your strat, so long negating that card's effect for a turn doesn't hurt yourself.

[@hypnotist1200]

I spent 250 on a playset just to only use it in tournament 2x...and I lost one game cause of it. Worst buy in my life

[@Stardust_262]

What I want to know is when we’re getting Extermination Designator

[@tarikshell9719]

I'm glad that Maxx C isn't going to come back into the TCG

[@answering248]

I mean I’d grab a playset of them if the price drops, personally think it’s solid if a hand trap can stop your turn completely.

[@abendsonnewarriorcats9474]

This Video has aged like old milk

[@elliecccg7791]

tfw paid 80$ EACH for crossout then it got reprinted in secret. definitely overpaid but i love crossout. helped me get my wcq invite; lets me steal games every now and then like last week i hit a prosperity and fenrir

[@cipherwing4211]

Crossing out branded fusion when they called by my ash is funny when playing the mirror

[@Kylora2112]

Crossout Designator is good in the OCG because they have 3 Maxx "C". Crossout Designator is bad in the TCG because we have 0 Maxx "C". I'm glad I saw that and didn't blow $300 on a playset. TCG decks are built to win. OCG decks are built to not lose.

[@cptguerreiro1253]

I never noticed that Cimooooooo explaining cards looked like he was making butter with ocasional pauses for his hands.

[@Leonardo.ohime.i]

It still baffles me it wasn't played when tear was tier 0

[@goblintechies4396]

Another way to put it is: Crossout Designator is like a Counterspell in magic the gathering. Its there to prevent a response from your opponent or to prevent said opponent from making a board you can't handle. The distinction however is that Crossout Designator unlike Counterspell is meta dependent. You need to be playing with others who run certain decks regularly for Crossout to see play. Like if the people you are playing with, maybe friends, who are just playing some table 500 decks, Crossout looks a lot less appealing if the cards it can hit is much more reduced. The reason Crossout Designator in the OCG saw as much play as it did is because it was a tourney card as you know what people are bringing to tournaments.

[@House_Of_Champs]

Crossout Designator: Target wallet!?

[@ganymedehedgehog371]

Playing not to lose ve to win is a very big difference that my friend sees in fighting games when he plays against jp players. Top jp players mostly don’t take risks and don’t shoot for the victory they do like you said try not to lose.

[@Alexifeu]

R.I.P. Virtual World. My very first Yu-Gi-Oh! Deck and my favorite one because of it. I still have gossip shadow and vfd in master duel so i can at least play them against friends in unlimited format. Since I run forbidden cards, its only fair then that my opponent ofc gets to play some too tho.

[@kingfatih]

Really enjoyed your analysis on Crossout Designator - great job :)

[@Luna-Starfrost]

I never got why this card got called a flop? And still gets called that? Ever since Crossout is out, it has seen tons of competitive play and still does, OCG, TCG and even Braindead Masterduel. It has also always been a terribly expensive card in TCG ever since it came out and yet it managed to be an absolutely mandatory staple for so many players, despite the redicolous pricing. Is that a meme that I have missed?

[@aka_Ingmar]

I do love what you had said about the big difference between the OCG and the TCG being they play to not lose while we play to win because that philosophy is incredibly correct. If we try to play a card that may not be good in every situation we see it as terrible why bother playing this. I do think that this card becomes better and better when metas are less diverse and a bit more predictable say kash format I'm still shocked it wasn't played in tear format. All in all I think this card is still powerful but unfortunately this card by the time it finally hit the TCG was just too late. I think that's honestly why it didn't see as much success. If this card would have come out right about the same time the OCG got it we would have seen a lot more play here but the game was too fast and too strong by the time we finally got it. And that says more about the balancing problems of Yu-Gi-Oh that it does the strength of this card which is why I feel really bad for stuff like this and other cards that take forever to get imported

[@Ragnarok540]

This card is only playable in the OCG and master duel since Maxx "C" is still legal there for some reason. There is a reason it got limited in both formats.

[@bryanmerel]

...interesting enough, it was still considered a great anti handtrap supplement here in the OCG.

[@arrownoir]

Crossout designator met the hype in Masterduel.

[@vanidemo]

OCG players putting their deck above the GY or the field spell in the field center zone is so infuriating. Looks messy

[@leakypeach6250]

I will say, it sucks having to design my Rikka deck with Crossout in mind, but it really helps with consistently dealing with awful handtraps like D-Shifter and Evenly.

[@messiert1987]

I play it in my ritual beast deck, doubles as a form of gold sarc. You only care about "names" of monsters in your deck for the most part. Granted the deck is moreso for casual play, but it's a cool little gimmick in it.

[@thatonetrainer5818]

Great vid as always what's the background music

[@synchrophilia7795]

OCG did not invent Runick Spright. They play Runick stun almost exclusively (with Runick synchro here and there but it didn't really do well.)

[@mr_rakar]

Another big thing people dont realize is the use against mirror matches.

[@thewalkingdude0136]

Ocg: we gotta survive Tcg: LETS GOOOOOOOO

[@digitalstatictv]

Welcome back!

[@Flashofblades]

Ive played it exclusively in decks that hard die to ash or imperm (Branded and D/D/D)

[@tarikfretes7562]

I missed this Format

[@SetoTargaryen]

When you draw it in the mirror match it’s So much more nutty.!! But yeah, gotta draw it b4 it does any good.. 😅😓

[@maxharper3737]

It also didn't help that they kept delaying the release of the card.

[@michael13849]

Didnt know i flopped in the tcg. Im guessing the reason it was so used in ocg and MD is bc there were more obnoxious hand traps

[@cuttlefish6839]

Maxx c specifically

[@michael13849]

@@cuttlefish6839 imma be honest. I do not mind maxx c at all but thats also bc i play decks that either dont special summon or if they do it'll just be the one time.

[@JamesBarton-Johns]

Its a staple for me in every iteration of my branded deck.

[@Evixyn]

Turn one, I set five and special summon Eldlich the golden lord and pass.

[@fadykhalil4046]

This aged like a nasty looking milk.

[@johnnyhall9154]

I like Crossout, especially in Tear format

[@MarioLopez-xs3vc]

This card doesn't seem so much a failure as it is overpriced and underutilized(because of said overpricing). It would have been a fine card in most Branded lists for dealing with Ash and D. Barrier which are cards the deck can side in, and it would have worked well in Tearlaments Format for the mirror or even sniping common answers to the deck. But between the ridiculous scalping and Konami intentionally hitting Called by just to try to sell the thing(yeah there's more to it than that, but Called by being both a lower rarity print and later a structure deck pickup made it too availible compared to its effectiveness), I'm not surprised a lot of people might have just refused to use it out of spite(or budget).

[@hectormoreno3940]

Never forget $100 pre order Crossout

[@intuitivelymagician2076]

Nobbleman of crossout was a classic

[@qty1315]

It's weird seeing this because Crossout is one of the most played cards in Master Duel.

[@AljoschaW1993]

In Master Duel is a 1 because everyone whould play it against Max C and Despia liked it in TCG

[@xenonim]

The role of Crossout designator is different in TCG, OCG and MD. In OCG and MD, it role is obviously to negate handtrap especially if your going 1st. However in TCG, crossout is used to counter mirror match, especially when compete tier 0 and tier 1 deck. During tier 0 Tearlement terrozing TCG player can used crossout to negate havnis. Yes this also cause your unable to used havnis so that why player go keldo and Mudora over crossout in TCG. Conclusion here role of Crossout designator in TCG is different compare to OCG and MD. Which is why TCG have less to no ussage at all crossout designator compare OCG and MD that widely used, where if if unlimited in OCG and MD, it will be guarantee 3 copy on every deck and kill viability for go 2nd player to win the match.

[@lucascerbasi4518]

I wouldn't say crossout "flopped", I'd say it's not designed to be played in a healthy format, and so it doesn't see a lot of play in such. If there is a main deck card that is way too powerful and is seeing widespread play, you have the option of playing crossout while konami doesn't ban said problem card. It's not a meta defining card by any means, but in a lot of formats, it's a very valid niche tech card.

[@runningoncylinders3829]

I'd run it if "C" is in the format, this is another Called By.

[@alex_zetsu]

No this isn't one of the biggest flops. Crossout Designator is somewhat effective against Ash (sadly it is worthless against extra deck monsters). You know what flopped harder? Naturia pineapple. It was designed to help you bring out Naturia Bamboo Shoot easier and allow people to play that archetype in the main deck. However, the Rescue Cat Engine was banned and it turned out pineapple doesn't work without Rescue Cat. Also Naturia Bamboo Shoot might be a better card if it could not be affected by effects not activated from the field (Effect Vieler works on it, you don't even need to summon a monster with a negate). Grapha dragon lord of the dark world was also a dud at first. People feared them enough that most sided in a copy of Ghost Belle at first but they didn't preform so well. Dark world would later on get some tops in tournaments, but OG Grapha often was only a side deck option. Lair of Darkness also got big hype. Those decks lost against almost every matchup against Sky Striker, Orcust, and Thunder Dragons (especially strikers oddly enough even though I'd think it'd be the strongest against them). Then there was Spell Chronicle. The price of this useless card skyrocketeted after, as a joke or something, 7 different guys who topped regionals bought a bunch of them and said it was going to be the next meta. It was clearly a joke, but they really did purchase them. One of them even said he'd buy all the copies he could. The masses of players assumed that Spell crhonicle could trigger the Shaddoll effects (it doesn't) and the prices reached $31 per card. All of these flopped harder than Crossout in terms to the hype to usability ratio. At least Crossout does see some play in sidedecks. In fact all of the cards I mentioned as flopping did see play (except Spell Chronicle) but in terms of top cut shows Crossout saw the most, which was admititly very little and only in the sidedeck but still more than the other flops.

[@TWLSpark]

I don't see what your point is? Crossout was hyped by a lot of people that, just like in the OCG, it was going to be this insane, must-include-immediately staple that you would run for years in your decks. Alas, that didn't ring true. Yes, it wasn't (and still isn't) a worthless card, and it has lots of potential applications, but it oftentimes gets relegated to just passing thoughts, theorizing, or just off-meta side deck picks. In that sense, the card did very much flop, and that's what this video is about.

[@alex_zetsu]

@@TWLSpark My problem is the video title, if it just said "Cards that flopped: Crossout Designated" I'd be fine, but calling this one of the "biggest" flops is a hard sell to me given that every 3rd tournament it's in the sidedeck of someone in the top 8, possible even the tournament winner.

[@qb3540]

8:05 Obelisk should always be in the middle.

[@Hamboarding]

This card saved my ass so many times 😮 (TCG)

[@RedFireYGODL]

I guess it will see TCG play now since they limited Gamma I'm using it as a combo extender since I'm running the nemesis engine in my spright deck I think they realize how good is gamma on spright deck😉

[@shadowu745]

when the card first came out i was so confused about the hype lol

[@zippo_maxx4403]

crossout designator is good for ghoti for extending.

[@Ghostrider15.]

02:33 Hey that's me lol

[@deanoor9391]

I use it in rikka so i cant get my bamboo lock interrupted

[@renaldyhaen]

I think Crossout didn't really popular because you need a lot of investment to optimize this card. You need every handtrap or staple to gain maximum advantages from this card. . I love how this channel explain about differences of mentality in TCG and OCG, but people just blind for C. Even in video already give some examples the usage of Crossout beside countering Maxx C. TCG loves aggressive card that can give opponent's a pressure, in this case, Crossout will never be aggressive card. But OCG, they play it defensively. If their deck lose to Nibiru and this card is common that format, just add Nibiru. Your deck lose to Impermanence, add Impermanence as target.

[@angelagonzalez8250]

Cross out is very good in the mirror match

[@Custarddolphin]

Another banger video

[@mysticlooter8418]

It's (current year) why tf can't we just get world wide releases and stop this long gap between new cards by noe

[@rz7179]

Personally I'm a fan of Crossout Designator. That being said, I agree that it was a flop, for whatever reason. It has good value, but in most decks you want more starters and combo peices in your opening hand and you don't want to run a single copy of a card that has no particular part in your combos just so you can counter a hand trap your opponent might or might not have in theirs.

[@theskullboy8700]

So was I in the minority when I thought cross out was gonna be mid at best on release?

[@RogueHero]

Card flopped because we dont have max c

[@Torpedoman316]

I’m glad it wasn’t game defining cuz it was 90 bucks when it came out and I got mine for 4 bucks each the next year

[@fortythrone369]

I pulled a designator on the week of release and sold it for a cool 100$

[@brandonscott5544]

GREAT MEGACAPITALG YU-GI-OH FLOPPY OCG,

[@EmberMcLain87]

well crossout did do 1 good thing. pushed those megatins out, and raise those cases for a short while.

[@animeknight99]

Good video

[@jamessmith-hh9wz]

Crossout designator was hella used in master duel to the point it had to be limited for its heavy use.

[@saprwin]

Masters duel is more like the otcg than it is the tcg

[@ConArroz9]

Crossout bangs in branded fight me

[@ShayiLike]

This card saves me all the time lol

[@glacierwolf2155]

I feel like Crossout Designator is one of those extremely situational cards, which primarily relies on a huge generic staple card like Maxx "C" to see widespread use.

[@mattcgw]

Agreed. To me playing Master Duel (and generally.) it seems like a massive bricky card. Waiting to happen. You have to take the broadest guess and add those(s) cards to your deck. And since the 1st Turn player only draws 5 cards. It's even more of an liability to you. If you open with this as your only spell card. And the rest of your hand terrible. You're going to loss. For example, imagine playing Elemental Heroes. No spells nor elemental hero Stratos. And obviously you'll have other hand traps as well. Worst case scenario. What if you fight a rouge deck, like Banish.Exe?! Crossout designator is worthless against them. It's only real value will be in mirror matches. Branded/Despia, most likely. And in that case, Super Polymerization will have more impact and stronger net positive. Taking their mirror Jade Dragon, to make your Mirror Jade Dragon instead.

[@neogalactic1195]

it's crazy how the lack of maxxx c can make crossout designator virtually unplayed in the TCG.

[@mr_rakar]

I use crossout in most of my decks, and i enjoy everytime it saves my butt

[@alphonse2234]

F&L lists make a difference in card playability.

[@yamiangelous]

I just wanna point out as much as alot of people are like 'but da bug is so bad!' konami hasn't changed SS mechanics around the bug, ya know whay they have started to change card design though? Ash they've started making 'ash proof' searchers just so people can get combo pieces and the like so really whats more meta defining? A bug that has the potential to do something or a known staple that there now designing search cards around.

[@worthywill9294]

Curious, HOW would you even design the concept of special summoning around maxx "c"...? Unless you're thinking inherent special summons but even then the roach would be a literal turn skip if you did in DP/SP phase

[@yamiangelous]

Funny enough you could solidify the summons as a inherit part of the game, a link summon is not a 'special' summon it's a link summon same with fusion, xyz, or synchro. A special summon should classify as 'im ignoring the conditions to summon this card to cheat it out ergo special summoning it' otherwise why bother having all these other forms of summoning if it's all just classified as a 'special' summon and yet have trap/spell cards that target that specific mechanic (because mr4 made you need to do them thru link summoning outside of the emz)

[@renaldyhaen]

@@worthywill9294 Spright all of the inherent summon, Floowandereeze multiple normal summon, Tear spam summon in any turn, Rescue-ACE minimum summon but maximum backrow disruption, and other control deck like Labrynth or Runick.

[@worthywill9294]

@@renaldyhaen even if I wanted to take the time to pick apart that example. We're missing the point completely, the original post was talking about we have to build cards around ash Blossom.... yet using your example *(while again ignoring the flaws in spright and arguably tear off the top of my head)* we're looking at entire decks and the response prior literally rewriting the rulebook/game mechanics

[@notminijer1121]

Cool video