Tried this once on a bridge with 4 guitars. an LP for the bottom, an SG for the lower mids, a Strat for the upper mids, and a Tele for the highs. It was then and at that pivotal moment, I realized, I was not Mutt...Great video here Doc!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
HAHAHA!! Great story Captain. I'm glad that YOU are YOU!!!
@seanemmettfullerton3 жыл бұрын
The great David Bendeth! Dude, thanks for chiming in! Yeah, sometimes these things work, and other times the cake winds up on the kitchen floor :)
@dbendeth3 жыл бұрын
@@seanemmettfullerton Right after it hits your face first!
@seanemmettfullerton3 жыл бұрын
@@dbendeth LOL... exactly :)
@Robinbermann3 жыл бұрын
Trying this today! Great idea!
@arsfarciministhorkeksson76613 жыл бұрын
That Phil Collins snippet makes me want to see your take on the drum sound on Phil Collins - Face Value/Peter Gabriel - Melt
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s on the list! Love Phil’s playing AND his sound!!
@Rikrik11383 жыл бұрын
*Phil Collen…
@deransadventures3 жыл бұрын
@@Rikrik1138 They were talking about Collins, not Collen.
@BukanIbuMu3 жыл бұрын
Peter Gabriel - Intruder drum sound is magic
@michaelcorcoran87683 жыл бұрын
I love that there is a community with which this is like the giant mystery! The internet sucks for a lot of things, but if you're interested in something specialized.... You can go down some really cool rabbit holes
@seanemmettfullerton3 жыл бұрын
Yeah totally. KZbin is my university. I'd rather learn something useful than to watch the TV wasteland imploding :)
@baimun3 жыл бұрын
Very cool!!! Almost like when a Xylophone player is using multiple mallets and the strike and bloom of the notes happen together!!
@user-nu7xx7pc1d3 жыл бұрын
yes!!!!
@pitmezzari28733 жыл бұрын
That's the idea.
@ardiris27153 жыл бұрын
I got the idea to record one string at a time from hexaphonic synth pickups for distorting complex chords. I love the technique. The thing is, it doesn't always help the song. (:
@room27383 жыл бұрын
have you seen bax breakout box? hexaphonic string reamping :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnfdY2ePhN2GqdE
@iswearnotme3 жыл бұрын
I got the idea to record one note at a time because I can’t play guitar very well
@ardiris27153 жыл бұрын
@@iswearnotme The mother of all invention. (:
@room27383 жыл бұрын
@@iswearnotme is it cos your new,or that you cant record to a static grid? ... your ideas might be bang on - but the daw cant handle it (it wants you quantized) - i would look at recording how you feel,then tempo map the grid ...
@wadeguidry66753 жыл бұрын
A band with 6 one string guitar players would be cool. Just think of all the different eq options, volume swells and panning you could do on the fly with each guitar.
@i-never-look-at-replies-lol3 жыл бұрын
Nah, not one string guitars: normal 6 string guitars with each string tuned to the same note with different gauges & intervals so each guitarist can play their one note 6 different ways on top of everything you mentioned too.
@varsityathlete99273 жыл бұрын
League of Crafty Guitarists, its not one string players but its a bunch of players showing how a group could sound. one string playing does sound like a fripp thing too lol.
@RoadTripEddie3 жыл бұрын
We do that at our campsite meetups. Like blue man group, on guutar
@TheZooropaBaby2 жыл бұрын
Glenn Branca did the guitar orchestra with something like that... 6 string guitar with all strings turned to 1 note
@bradzillarocks3 жыл бұрын
As a fan I love this album so much, listened hundreds of times over the decades, and when I got into recording and production it's been a treasure trove of great techniques and tricks. Keep em coming, Doc!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brad! In my opinion it was the greatest production ever. So far out of any box or any rules. NOTHING else sounds like it.
@dcdno_one23933 жыл бұрын
That really is a ton of processors for what the Rockman box did on that track.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha! Agreed
@SteveOuimette3 жыл бұрын
When we were recording the T-Ride album back in 1990 I vividly recall Eric Valentine doing a similar thing. We would play the 3-note chords and double them, then go back and track each note separately for the chord. This gave the chord more definition and also eliminated inter-string modulation that happens. He then balanced them to have the beef of the 3-note chords along with the definition of the multitracked chords to make the whole thing sound very deliberate. You can hear it clearly on songs like "Zombies From Hell" and "Backdoor Romeo". Brilliant!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks for telling us Steve! Fantastic! Big fan of that album and of Eric!!
@SteveOuimette3 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyHuff Thank you Bobby! That was a fun album to be a part of. Eric was so innovative (and remains so) even as a teenager. Completely changed my life of recording music meeting him and playing with him and Dan.
@SeanGould3 жыл бұрын
I literally just listened to zombies on a whim then this came up in my feed!
@SteveOuimette3 жыл бұрын
@@SeanGould Wow, that is crazy! Still love that song. What's your favorite on the album?
@jonwillis64643 жыл бұрын
T-RIDE !!!!!!! That album is a masterpiece !!!!
@kellywendlandt39403 жыл бұрын
As always, great insight into the mind of a genius and how he orchestrates. A copyable (not sure if that's a word) trick but also a lesson in thinking outside-the-box. Thank you for putting this together Bobby.
@monsieurmitosis3 жыл бұрын
Imitable, perhaps?
@joetrosclair84343 жыл бұрын
Repeatable?
@432b86ed6 ай бұрын
"Replicable" would be a possibility. :)
@bigpickles3 жыл бұрын
One of my fav albums. Will forever be special to me and in some way it keeps me grounded when I play it, regardless of where or how I am. A true masterpiece.
@jamesordwayultralightpilot3 жыл бұрын
That's how I feel about them as well. Kind of sums up my childhood in one great album.
@bwm51503 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Bob! I did a video on this a few years ago to demonstrate what Steve Clark mentioned in an interview about recording the guitars on Pyromania. In that case it was mainly for clarity when they had distorted guitars playing more complex chord voicings, like on tracks such as Comin’ Under Fire. Over the years the band seem to change their stories on how much they used the string by string technique, although they’re a bit more consistent on this example it seems. Keep them coming! Would love a demo on the rumoured ‘stringing the guitar to a certain chord’ to have some nice sustain.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Great! Thanks for watching and the kind comments!
@tanneryordan3 жыл бұрын
I was just going to link your video in the comments! lol
@Krullmatic3 жыл бұрын
Ahhh! You missed the chance to show the character Phil Collins,as well, from the Trailer Park Boys lol! Love your shit Bobby!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Hahah!! Thanks Htiek!
@buckmclean839110 ай бұрын
I have always been obsessed with this album and the methods used to create it. It fascinates me endlessly.
@izzyfontaine3 жыл бұрын
the part directly after this is also a part that blew my mind later hearing the panning in headphones. such a beautiful symphony of delicious tones. mutt didn’t have to go that hard but he did for all of us! thanks for always crushing the best topics on youtube!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Isaac. Mutts attention to detail and pursuit of something completely original is a HUGE lesson!!’
@chutch153 жыл бұрын
A comparison with the actual played guitar chords would’ve been cool
@gmmakesmehurl3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. This made it sound like shit.
@Banditman3 жыл бұрын
Hey Bobby - not sure what you are using for your guitar sound, but if you're really interested in getting that Def Lep guitar sound, Amplitube now has a plug in version of the Rockman X100 that's pretty good. I got it as part of the Joe Satriani signature package, but it's available as a stand alone as well.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks Brian! I did not know that! I appreciate it!
@richardzraick92963 жыл бұрын
I believe that Gary Pihl (who was working at Scholz R & D in between Boston tours), consulted with Mutt and the band on the Rockman use on the album.
@zublacus3 жыл бұрын
It's crazy that they recorded that album with a Rockman, but it's undeniable when you hear the chorus on the Rockman.
@SJR_Media_Group2 жыл бұрын
I am so glad I ran into your channel... so many questions and rumors about Def Leppard. Mutt is known as a 'perfectionist' but I think he was more of a 'purest'. His novel way of telling a story with music is legendary. Playing a string at a time really delivers a pure sound. Phil was right, only way to get this unique sound is one string at a time. I can only imagine how many countless hours spent mixing sounds for just one song. No wonder it took months to produce an entire album.
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Hey Steven. Agreed. Mutts gift goes WAY beyond perfectionism!!!!
@jefjahn2473 жыл бұрын
You mean there’s other ways to record guitars other than one string at a time? Man! I’ve gotta get out more often 🤪
@michaelcottle62703 жыл бұрын
A related technique I heard of (I think it was a Glam rock thing in the '70s) was having a guitar with 6 identical strings strumming full barres to build up chords one note at a time
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Very cool!
@Nonexistanthuman3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate KZbin sharing me this channel on the algorithm tonight. Like how you shared something pretty mind boggling
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching man!!
@Nonexistanthuman3 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyHuff no need to thank me man, you are the one doing all the hard work for us viewers. I'm positive the musician community and those who listen to music heavily on here will find you. Just keep it up I know others would love to hear this stuff, plus I like how you put your own spin on these topics
@toddscotdrumcovers23413 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome. That part is ingrained in our heads. Such an awesome sound. Great explanation!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks my friend!
@NoahNCopeland3 жыл бұрын
Sweet! I think Rick Savage demonstrates this on the "Classic Albums" DVD series of Hysteria. It's this same part. He shows it as a simple open chords of D, Dus4, Cadd9
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Noah!! Haven’t seen that one!
@shawnhebbmusic3 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyHuff what???? oh man, you gotta watch those.. .that whole series is pretty amazing....but the def leppard one really stands out.... also never mind and dark side of the moon, and the tom petty one is really good. ..you have some cool stuff to watch my man... (I'm pretty sure their on prime..) Cheers guys
@michaelcottle62703 жыл бұрын
@@shawnhebbmusic agreed, lots of great ones. I like the Steely Dan "Aja" one as well - seeing as we're talking studio obsessives 😃
@shawnhebbmusic3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelcottle6270 I don't think I've seen that one... I will check it out.
@michaelcottle62703 жыл бұрын
@@shawnhebbmusic I bought the VHS but this is more convenient kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHjchJ-GnZh-aas The piano player separate from the rest is Paul Griffin who was very Ill and had big medical bills. I think this was his last paying gig before he died. So Becker and Fagin for all the hipster bluster are actually really decent guys...
@Andyanddiana4673 жыл бұрын
Man, this is great stuff. I grew up listening to this record and I love hearing how the musical sausage got made.
@XChristianNoirX3 жыл бұрын
The Smashing Pumpkins did this on a song called Hummer from the album Siamese Dream, for the bending octave chords of the main riff of the song. That's how they got the bends to sound so impossible-to-play smooth.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Very cool!
@XChristianNoirX3 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyHuff 👍🏻👍🏻 Here is the song... Guitarists have been wondering for 30 years why they couldn't make it sound right. 😂 kzbin.info/www/bejne/kKnSkICPp6Z3o7s The part come in after the intro.. It's like some sitar effect, drums, bass, and then the guitars come it. One of their best songs.. Including the ending solo.
@kevystead3 жыл бұрын
So good! Always was a favorite for me to play drums on. That album was where the band rose from the ashes and found their sound. It was also my introduction to the band at 11 or 12 y/o
@kylesommerville37163 жыл бұрын
Hello same last name Kevin
@Sr.LaGGarto3 жыл бұрын
Great video Dr. Bob. I heard a rumor that for Hysteria, Mutt Lange recorded guitars using a Tom Scholz's Rockman headphone guitar amp
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Yes it was a Rockman! I’m not sure which model exactly and I believe it was also modified somehow.
@andivax5 ай бұрын
Very interesting approach! Like layering synthesizers
@whynottalklikeapirat3 жыл бұрын
"It would have been easy to use keyboard" - Case closed.
@platterjockey3 жыл бұрын
But it wouldn't have sounded the same. Sometimes you have to go the extra mile to get the sound you want.
@whynottalklikeapirat3 жыл бұрын
@@platterjockey That was kind of a joke ...
@platterjockey3 жыл бұрын
@@whynottalklikeapirat ...OK...
@whynottalklikeapirat3 жыл бұрын
@@platterjockey YEah - it is
@JeffRage3 жыл бұрын
I always wondered what made those chores sound so unique. And, now I know. And, knowing is half the battle!
@michaeltablet85773 жыл бұрын
I wish I'd found Dr. Bob sooner. Unfortunately some of my tunes went to visit Dr. Delete unnecessarily. . Great video as always!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Hahahah!!!! Glad u are here now!!
@432b86ed7 ай бұрын
I'll always wonder how much of that music was actually written by the band. Respectfully of course. Enlightening demo as usual, Bobby. That guitar technique rings like a bell. Beautiful.
@kenlnetherland3 жыл бұрын
Bobby, another trick that Mutt would use which is a very subtle touch in Hysteria, is that he would mic the electric guitars like you would an acoustic guitar but he/she would play unplugged. I would love to see you try that experiment. Listen for in in "Animal"
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha!! It’s already on the list!! Thanks Ken!
@tufif3 жыл бұрын
It's like the clean guitar version of what Brian May did in Queen, very cool take on the idea
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Tufif!
@tufif3 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyHuff You're welcome! I've watched a few of your videos so far, but I think this is the first time I've commented on one. Keep up the good work, I'm learning all sorts of new tricks that I can hopefully use on my next album!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
@@tufif thanks for watching and commenting!! Hopefully they will be useful on ur album!
@chriscampbell91913 жыл бұрын
I still think that Nik Kershaw used this technique throughout "Wouldn't It Be Good", mainly the higher chorused guitars that stick out (middle of stereo spectrum), sounding like a load of duplicate single notes. I think the guitar in the right channel is standard rhythm playing, though... I've thought this since the 80s, as there was no way I could duplicate that cutting sound on my own guitars. Of course, I may be mistaken. But now I know this technique has been used, and was used in the 80s. Certainly, Mutt Lange wasn't the only one.....
@bwm51503 жыл бұрын
Nik said in an interview that the main progression was built up like that with inspiration from Brian May. When it came to play the song live, it was hard because you couldn't quite play all the notes in a chord.
@chriscampbell91913 жыл бұрын
@@bwm5150 I thought so. Yeah, live Kershaw did it OK, but that extra presence of the guitar lines was missing.... I found a vid of him playing at Live Aid and although it sounds good, that chorus of guitars definitely was missed. Thanks for the info, by the way. It was a suspicion I always had about that song (which I always cranked when it was on the radio) but never found any info on the recording of it.
@bwm51503 жыл бұрын
@@chriscampbell9191 no worries! Yeah the Live Aid performance was my introduction to the song and it got me hooked. Wish I could find the interview to link but I think it was on a random channel here in the UK.
@mdurg2 жыл бұрын
Wow just realizing that now. Messed around with this a little on guitar not too long ago. I knew it was obviously guitar in the recording but I was just playing power chords and it wasnt sounding the same.
@AGENTARMES Жыл бұрын
The notes by themselves are hauntingly beautiful too
@BobbyHuff Жыл бұрын
Agreed!!!
@DAVIDJCARON3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating as always Bobby.. All that matters is getting the end result recording to sound as good as possible.. no matter how "crazy" or un LIVE rock'n'roll it may seem.. This Hysteria myth actually influenced me to remove all strings from a guitar, except the only strings I needed for a certain repetitive rhythmic part that used just one or two strings, just so as to eliminate any possibility of getting unwanted noise from not perfectly dampened other strings.. worked great! :)
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Great story David! Do whatever it takes right??? No rules!!
@markofsaltburn3 жыл бұрын
I’ve never liked Def Leppard but you’ve made me want to play Hysteria all the way through for the first time.
@PB72UK3 жыл бұрын
Hysteria is a first class album where there's only really one slightly weak track (rocket) , the rest are fantastic songs
@whynottalklikeapirat3 жыл бұрын
I am not so much into the rest of their stuff but hysteria is different. It's still kinda vulgar, sugar with sugar on top - its a style - but the songs are strong the the vibe works. I still dig it out from time to time ...
@SkyAvila9833 жыл бұрын
I have a Rockman Sustainor and got the same sound with just that box (adding chorus and other fx make it complete). Love that sound! Thanks!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Rockman makes great stuff!!
@TheSteveKinney3 жыл бұрын
Dude, smashing job on this one! .. Really probably one of my all time favorite songs and productions.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Hey Steve!!! Thanks my friend!!!
@fredriknilsson27323 жыл бұрын
What drum samples did you use? I love the snare!
@matttorrence29003 жыл бұрын
Is that Maag EQ worth getting? And I heard some great stuff about the FabFilter Pro Q thing.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately they are both fantastic Matt!!!! Haha
@Dgarig6653 жыл бұрын
Damn. That's two things in a row I've learned from this channel. Thanks, I just subscribed.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks David and I appreciate the sub my new friend!
@Dgarig6653 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyHuff thank you for the insights.
@kellecetraro4807 Жыл бұрын
I worked for DigiTech back in the day, in our quest to get tones for our processors we would as everone knows colab with producers and artists. My understanding was Mutt recorded each note individually summed them, came out of the console then ran them through a rockman for processing. I've heard it done this way and it sounds amazing as does yours. The only reason I comment is, and maybe I missed something but are you adding the effects on each high, mid and low guitar track?
@robanderson35593 жыл бұрын
The tone on the whole album is killer.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Agreed Rob
@Mooseboy083 жыл бұрын
Good choice on the guitar used. Variax JTV 59, I love mine.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Haha! Thanks!
@guillermodelnoche3 жыл бұрын
You will be responsible for more Mutt Lange Jr.’s than Mutt himself. Awesome video!
@fiddlefolk3 жыл бұрын
lmao..
@danleveillee22023 жыл бұрын
I can’t for the life of me understand why trolls will thumbs down these videos? If I owned KZbin I would require thumbs down to show who did it, and require an explanation for the thumbs down. There would be less unaccountable trolling. 👍🏻
@seanemmettfullerton3 жыл бұрын
(sigh) Yep. Sadly it's about envy, rage, self-loathing, fear of failure, and so on. I agree with you totally. Social media is too often about defamation and character assassination.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Haha! Yeah gotta love the haters too! I appreciate you having my back! Maybe the hate the beard????
@danleveillee22023 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyHuff You Obviously put a ton of time into making these videos, and not only that, coming up with the content, and doing the recording and editing. But even more, you are sharing engineering tips that people spend money to go to Berkeley, or MIT, and through years of grinding experience to learn. I just find it disrespectful to thumbs down a video that is obviously well done. But people going to do what they do. They have a right to their opinion of course, and I have a right to counter that by saying they are dumb asses. 😬 Lol Keep up the great work man.
@ricksalt68603 жыл бұрын
Rejoiceful chord sequence , sounds like something that belongs on a Christian rock album . Thanks for the great vid
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rick!
@darrinwilson3653 жыл бұрын
Sounds like an insane prospect prior to digital editing lol. I could see for one particular section or effect
@footnotedrummer3 жыл бұрын
Wow... you're crushing it with that 1176. I woulda been scared to smoosh it that much.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Yeah for this type of sound crush away!!!!
@JamesOKeefe-US3 жыл бұрын
This channel should be so much larger. Love your content!!! 👍 🤘 🤘 🤘
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching James! We are very happy with the growth and thankful for people like you!
@joelbennett27593 жыл бұрын
Cowboy Song (and others) by Thin Lizzy utilizes this same kind of thing. Stacked single notes as backing harmonies, not as guitar solos. Much more pristine with Mutt and DL than with the rough Thin Lizzy sound. But, a similar trick. Great Video!
@bylleet3 жыл бұрын
I used this technique using a Tascam syn-cassette 4 track in 1984
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Nice…
@DrSteveAllen3 жыл бұрын
Bobby - You never disappoint!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve!
@michaelnc44503 жыл бұрын
Great post Bobby!!!! Thanks!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Michael’!
@DH-zw6vz3 жыл бұрын
Great video on guitar sounds. Mutt is crazy creative. Also, I heard that Chris Cornell screamed into guitar pickups for a vocal part on Black Hole Sun. Any truth to that? As always, great job Doc!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dolb I appreciate you watching. Yes that is true he did scream into his guitar!
@AimingWanderously3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for this. Very cool stuff! I'd love to see you dissect how they get that bright, popping sound in the main riff & intro of Armageddon It. I use a little poppy palm-muting and upstrokes to emulate that sound but I've wondered how they did it on the record, if it too is single string recording.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Great idea!
@MrJarbyJarb3 жыл бұрын
If I remember right I don’t think there was any drumming on the album. It was separate drum strokes pieced together.
@seanemmettfullerton3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, bud! Yep, the best producers strive to make things work, regardless of how strange it may seem to the players. Ravel did stuff like this to make violins sound like guitars. Ha! If we're not experimenting, we're not progressing :) Thanks bud!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sean!
@johnabbottphotography Жыл бұрын
Bobby, This may sound ridiculous, but did you consider moving each track (from each string) just a hair farther than the previous one, to create the "strum" of the notes being hit in succession? And yeah... now I want to go try this.
@guthriejenkins11 ай бұрын
When you play single guitar lead lines separately like on double or triple lead guitar, the vibrato and envelopes of each note in each line are different than if played in chords together. Not better, just different... and I think that's what your excellent video is illustrating here. And it also gives the mixing engineer more control over which voices--guitar voices--to bring forward and backward. But thinking about that level of detail in the automation gets me... well... I wouldn't want to do it unless I was paid a lot. But you could gate out a lot of noise that might otherwise live in chord transitions. Now after watching your video... I might try it.
@Stormwriter3 жыл бұрын
One thing similar to this - and maybe you can try it out, is for a guitar to be mixed to where the pan from left to right depends on the pitch. So, if someone were to play a scale, a listener with headphones would hear it going from lower left to upper right as the scaled progressed. Sometimes a xylophone is recorded this way, with two mics, so as they go higher the other mic picks it up. I just think it would create a cool effect while listening with headphones.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Yes very cool and great comment!
@fakshen19733 жыл бұрын
Mutt knows his shizzle. The man could move some serious sales units.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!!
@TimE_51503 жыл бұрын
Thanks again Bob, that was an awesome dissection (yes pun intended) of the brilliance of Mutt Lange's creative process. The next time my Father calls someone a Mutt (like he does often) I will have to explain that all Mutt's are not equal!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha thanks Tim!
@8MinuteAxe3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this one Bobby. Great work. The filmmaking is top notch too. take care.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Mark!!
@CoppersmithProductions3 жыл бұрын
Great video Bob! Sounds very close to the record and cool to see it finally broken down like this. To my ear the delay sounds a little off from the actual recording, but I'm probably wrong. (Wouldn't be the first time.) Keep up the awesome vids, man!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Delay may not be the same! I didn’t really try to nail the sound exactly but I tried to nail the part! Close enough to get the point across!!
@7stringbassist3 жыл бұрын
I’ve just come across your channel. Loved the last couple of Mutt Lange items. The bv’s he did with Shania were amazing as well. Quick question, and I’ve looked through the comments before asking, what drum sounds are you using? They absolutely nail that Rick Allen sound.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Hey Mark. They are some sounds I’ve gathered and put together to emulate that Hysteria vibe. Thanks for watching the channel!
@brainsniffer3 жыл бұрын
Incredible how far someone will go for THE SOUND. That album has always been one of my favourites.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
No doubt man!!
@nickwallette62013 жыл бұрын
Oh that's not even that big of a deal. :-) It reminds me a little of how Bohemian Rhapsody had so many overlapping vocal parts, particularly the "Magnifico-oh-oh-oh" thing. Just typical studio chicanery. :-D
@cameroncorrosive9253 жыл бұрын
that was still awesome, i was reliving some childhood nostalgia lol.
@MrDaneBrammage3 жыл бұрын
“I’m going to record each string separately so each attack happens simultaneously, but I’m also going to load each track with so much delay, chorus, and compression that you can’t hear the attack anyway.”
@thelolguy0073 жыл бұрын
I’m guessing when he listened back to it in the mix dry it just didn’t work so he had to add certain effects 🤷♂️
@rapid133 жыл бұрын
There’s a subtle difference between “simultaneous attack” and “no arpeggiation.”
@the6ig6adwolf3 жыл бұрын
Didn't Dave Lombardo do something similar on the Slayer album Show No Mercy? But with drums obviously.
@BenShockeyEngineer3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for demonstrating how Mutt recorded one of many amazing sounds on the Hysteria album. Keep the videos coming!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ben!
@rapid133 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Doc. I like the album well enough, though when it released I was disappointed that it wasn’t Pyromania-heavy. That said, Hysteria is my favorite track and an all time great song, and that is its most iconic section.
@OAlem3 жыл бұрын
Like an Octopus with a pick in each tentacle. I definitely hear it on parts on other Hysteria tracks. Rocket, for sure. It creates this artefact that sounds like the cymbals are adorned with hundreds of tiny cymbals or the glissando of a magic spell. I always thought it was a cymbal effect back in the day. Thank you so much! Mystery solved! Maybe Mutt got the idea from giving RIck Allen another hand, so he might have thought "Why not give Collen more hands as well?" Because this was never done on Pyromania, for example, was it?
@Liverastic3 жыл бұрын
Very cool breakdown of an very interesting technique. This is the first video I've seen from this chanel.... I gotta ask... Is that Windows Vista?
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Windows 7
@TheRockerxx693 жыл бұрын
That's why they stayed in the Dutch studio 3 years.
@pal45973 жыл бұрын
Love it Bobby... great job.
@ruthlessadmin3 жыл бұрын
I never really thought about it but always thought that was done with a synth. This is way cooler.
@chrisdunnettmusic3 жыл бұрын
Erwin Musper who is a friend of mine and engineered for Mutt Lange did tell me that he would sometimes record each Bass note on a different track...for example...all the G's on 1 track all the A's on another etc. He did this so he could EQ them individually. Again, that was told to me personally by his engineer ;)
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris. Makes sense to me! I actually did a video on this about getting great low end. I didn’t use Mutt as an example but I think Max Martin is on the thumbnail…
@chrisdunnettmusic3 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyHuff Coolness! You're very welcome :)
@mr.e84323 жыл бұрын
Actually did this on a bass part once. The part had the A string droning off a run on the D and G strings and EQ’ing the part was a nightmare. Either the whole thing sounded way too thin or the droning A string made the whole thing sound like mud. We tried recording the A string separately which made eq’ing much much easier plus a little volume automation worked like a charm.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Awesome!
@horizontalblanking2 жыл бұрын
Just got around to this… very nice! Allan Holdsworth did a similar trick with the band UK. At the end of the song “Mental Medication,” Allan does some great chord work, with each note being played separately. Massive sound.
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Love Holdsworth!! Next level……BRILLIANT!!!!
@jimzepol3 жыл бұрын
Awesome ! Thank Doc
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jim!
@billribas3 жыл бұрын
So cool, real chimey type sound. Thanks as always, you're the best
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bill!
@AljonGo3 жыл бұрын
Amazing tone. So much meticulous work from Mutt and the band. Brilliant!!!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Agreed Aljon!
@cancelbubble65353 жыл бұрын
What's missing is contrasting/comparing the composited solo notes with playing the actual chords.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
I guess we will have to trust Mutts ears!
@slapitman3 жыл бұрын
Ok here's another little piece of the puzzle on the Mutt Lange (pronounced lunga BTW !) story. With Mutt growing up in africa as I did I can echo his formative listening experiences and say they would almost certainly have been South African radio. For some reason a great deal of AOR style melodic rock made its way to the airwaves (local and limited international artist due to the equity ban) and somehow left an indelible mark on the youth. Heavily regulated state radio also sandwiched in folk and european eclectic music that was harmony laden as well as orchestrated and we grew up on this odd diet. The nett effect is a generation who somehow relate en-mass to Mutts musical tasted and harmonic structure. I have seen it in countless South African bands and can pick out a Lange produced artist/song by ear. Odd but true!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Very very cool Blackdog!!
@ObsidianLife3 жыл бұрын
It just sounds like he was trying to avoid bleed and frequency clashing… I mean it is super picky but not all that shocking once you get past the hyperbolic headline….(not meant as an insult… )
@MrGul3 жыл бұрын
"A little more randomly" - what...? That part hits beat 1 of every other bar, that's extremely structured and not even a single hint of randomness!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Random in context to the other parts where every note was played
@MrGul3 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyHuff Highly disagree. The other parts have a repeating pick-up line by two 8th notes before beat 1 every other bar, which this part simply skips. Nothing random about it even in context with the other parts.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
@@MrGul Um.....okay....what you said....
@billytremoloband74563 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video! Think the same trick was done on the start of white room by cream
@profoundsinger3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos! But I have a MINOR gripe…the plug-in delay is pronounced mowg…long O vowel sound. Sorry bro, just a pet peeve of mine. Great content though!!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
The Maag?
@markmywordsreviewchannel38603 жыл бұрын
Love your Mutt Lange videos. The guy is a mystery and so damn talented. Love hearing more about his techniques.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark!!
@myownyoutubification3 жыл бұрын
Another gem from Dr Bob!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@jordanharzke96433 жыл бұрын
Super cool bro, can’t wait for more. :)
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jordan.
@humbuzztube3 жыл бұрын
Not just Hysteria... A long time friend who was a popular morning radio personality in Sacramento got to know Craig Chaquico during Starship.. said Mutt squeezed all the pleasure out of recording with his One String guitar process... I guess you just sit back and count the money when Mutt's at the helm!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha! $$$$$
@Corey_G2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it was because of the guitars tuning / intonation imperfections?
@matchismo Жыл бұрын
To my ear on my old cassette. I pick a higher guitar part. It might be an octaver effect. I just pluck strings.
@matthewJ1423 жыл бұрын
I like it when it's done like a looper where you add on each part on top of each other as opposed to just hearing the one string. It should be done like vocal harmonies.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Cool…
@chadhero373 жыл бұрын
Tons of people can sing. Tons of people can write decent songs. But very few people can take an average song and make it amazing. Mutt Lange is a genius. He can make anyone a top seller
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Agreed Chad!
@NeilBolandGuitaristWriter3 жыл бұрын
It sounds like Joe Satriani employed this trick on some of his earlier recordings, too.