The Biggest Mutt Lange Rumor Solved.

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Bobby Huff

Bobby Huff

Күн бұрын

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@dbendeth
@dbendeth 3 жыл бұрын
Tried this once on a bridge with 4 guitars. an LP for the bottom, an SG for the lower mids, a Strat for the upper mids, and a Tele for the highs. It was then and at that pivotal moment, I realized, I was not Mutt...Great video here Doc!
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
HAHAHA!! Great story Captain. I'm glad that YOU are YOU!!!
@seanemmettfullerton
@seanemmettfullerton 3 жыл бұрын
The great David Bendeth! Dude, thanks for chiming in! Yeah, sometimes these things work, and other times the cake winds up on the kitchen floor :)
@dbendeth
@dbendeth 3 жыл бұрын
@@seanemmettfullerton Right after it hits your face first!
@seanemmettfullerton
@seanemmettfullerton 3 жыл бұрын
@@dbendeth LOL... exactly :)
@Robinbermann
@Robinbermann 3 жыл бұрын
Trying this today! Great idea!
@arsfarciministhorkeksson7661
@arsfarciministhorkeksson7661 3 жыл бұрын
That Phil Collins snippet makes me want to see your take on the drum sound on Phil Collins - Face Value/Peter Gabriel - Melt
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s on the list! Love Phil’s playing AND his sound!!
@Rikrik1138
@Rikrik1138 3 жыл бұрын
*Phil Collen…
@deransadventures
@deransadventures 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rikrik1138 They were talking about Collins, not Collen.
@BukanIbuMu
@BukanIbuMu 3 жыл бұрын
Peter Gabriel - Intruder drum sound is magic
@michaelcorcoran8768
@michaelcorcoran8768 3 жыл бұрын
I love that there is a community with which this is like the giant mystery! The internet sucks for a lot of things, but if you're interested in something specialized.... You can go down some really cool rabbit holes
@seanemmettfullerton
@seanemmettfullerton 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah totally. KZbin is my university. I'd rather learn something useful than to watch the TV wasteland imploding :)
@baimun
@baimun 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool!!! Almost like when a Xylophone player is using multiple mallets and the strike and bloom of the notes happen together!!
@user-nu7xx7pc1d
@user-nu7xx7pc1d 3 жыл бұрын
yes!!!!
@pitmezzari2873
@pitmezzari2873 3 жыл бұрын
That's the idea.
@ardiris2715
@ardiris2715 3 жыл бұрын
I got the idea to record one string at a time from hexaphonic synth pickups for distorting complex chords. I love the technique. The thing is, it doesn't always help the song. (:
@room2738
@room2738 3 жыл бұрын
have you seen bax breakout box? hexaphonic string reamping :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnfdY2ePhN2GqdE
@iswearnotme
@iswearnotme 3 жыл бұрын
I got the idea to record one note at a time because I can’t play guitar very well
@ardiris2715
@ardiris2715 3 жыл бұрын
@@iswearnotme The mother of all invention. (:
@room2738
@room2738 3 жыл бұрын
@@iswearnotme is it cos your new,or that you cant record to a static grid? ... your ideas might be bang on - but the daw cant handle it (it wants you quantized) - i would look at recording how you feel,then tempo map the grid ...
@wadeguidry6675
@wadeguidry6675 3 жыл бұрын
A band with 6 one string guitar players would be cool. Just think of all the different eq options, volume swells and panning you could do on the fly with each guitar.
@i-never-look-at-replies-lol
@i-never-look-at-replies-lol 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, not one string guitars: normal 6 string guitars with each string tuned to the same note with different gauges & intervals so each guitarist can play their one note 6 different ways on top of everything you mentioned too.
@varsityathlete9927
@varsityathlete9927 3 жыл бұрын
League of Crafty Guitarists, its not one string players but its a bunch of players showing how a group could sound. one string playing does sound like a fripp thing too lol.
@RoadTripEddie
@RoadTripEddie 3 жыл бұрын
We do that at our campsite meetups. Like blue man group, on guutar
@TheZooropaBaby
@TheZooropaBaby 2 жыл бұрын
Glenn Branca did the guitar orchestra with something like that... 6 string guitar with all strings turned to 1 note
@bradzillarocks
@bradzillarocks 3 жыл бұрын
As a fan I love this album so much, listened hundreds of times over the decades, and when I got into recording and production it's been a treasure trove of great techniques and tricks. Keep em coming, Doc!
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brad! In my opinion it was the greatest production ever. So far out of any box or any rules. NOTHING else sounds like it.
@dcdno_one2393
@dcdno_one2393 3 жыл бұрын
That really is a ton of processors for what the Rockman box did on that track.
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha! Agreed
@SteveOuimette
@SteveOuimette 3 жыл бұрын
When we were recording the T-Ride album back in 1990 I vividly recall Eric Valentine doing a similar thing. We would play the 3-note chords and double them, then go back and track each note separately for the chord. This gave the chord more definition and also eliminated inter-string modulation that happens. He then balanced them to have the beef of the 3-note chords along with the definition of the multitracked chords to make the whole thing sound very deliberate. You can hear it clearly on songs like "Zombies From Hell" and "Backdoor Romeo". Brilliant!
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks for telling us Steve! Fantastic! Big fan of that album and of Eric!!
@SteveOuimette
@SteveOuimette 3 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyHuff Thank you Bobby! That was a fun album to be a part of. Eric was so innovative (and remains so) even as a teenager. Completely changed my life of recording music meeting him and playing with him and Dan.
@SeanGould
@SeanGould 3 жыл бұрын
I literally just listened to zombies on a whim then this came up in my feed!
@SteveOuimette
@SteveOuimette 3 жыл бұрын
@@SeanGould Wow, that is crazy! Still love that song. What's your favorite on the album?
@jonwillis6464
@jonwillis6464 3 жыл бұрын
T-RIDE !!!!!!! That album is a masterpiece !!!!
@kellywendlandt3940
@kellywendlandt3940 3 жыл бұрын
As always, great insight into the mind of a genius and how he orchestrates. A copyable (not sure if that's a word) trick but also a lesson in thinking outside-the-box. Thank you for putting this together Bobby.
@monsieurmitosis
@monsieurmitosis 3 жыл бұрын
Imitable, perhaps?
@joetrosclair8434
@joetrosclair8434 3 жыл бұрын
Repeatable?
@432b86ed
@432b86ed 6 ай бұрын
"Replicable" would be a possibility. :)
@bigpickles
@bigpickles 3 жыл бұрын
One of my fav albums. Will forever be special to me and in some way it keeps me grounded when I play it, regardless of where or how I am. A true masterpiece.
@jamesordwayultralightpilot
@jamesordwayultralightpilot 3 жыл бұрын
That's how I feel about them as well. Kind of sums up my childhood in one great album.
@bwm5150
@bwm5150 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Bob! I did a video on this a few years ago to demonstrate what Steve Clark mentioned in an interview about recording the guitars on Pyromania. In that case it was mainly for clarity when they had distorted guitars playing more complex chord voicings, like on tracks such as Comin’ Under Fire. Over the years the band seem to change their stories on how much they used the string by string technique, although they’re a bit more consistent on this example it seems. Keep them coming! Would love a demo on the rumoured ‘stringing the guitar to a certain chord’ to have some nice sustain.
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Great! Thanks for watching and the kind comments!
@tanneryordan
@tanneryordan 3 жыл бұрын
I was just going to link your video in the comments! lol
@Krullmatic
@Krullmatic 3 жыл бұрын
Ahhh! You missed the chance to show the character Phil Collins,as well, from the Trailer Park Boys lol! Love your shit Bobby!
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Hahah!! Thanks Htiek!
@buckmclean8391
@buckmclean8391 10 ай бұрын
I have always been obsessed with this album and the methods used to create it. It fascinates me endlessly.
@izzyfontaine
@izzyfontaine 3 жыл бұрын
the part directly after this is also a part that blew my mind later hearing the panning in headphones. such a beautiful symphony of delicious tones. mutt didn’t have to go that hard but he did for all of us! thanks for always crushing the best topics on youtube!
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Isaac. Mutts attention to detail and pursuit of something completely original is a HUGE lesson!!’
@chutch15
@chutch15 3 жыл бұрын
A comparison with the actual played guitar chords would’ve been cool
@gmmakesmehurl
@gmmakesmehurl 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. This made it sound like shit.
@Banditman
@Banditman 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Bobby - not sure what you are using for your guitar sound, but if you're really interested in getting that Def Lep guitar sound, Amplitube now has a plug in version of the Rockman X100 that's pretty good. I got it as part of the Joe Satriani signature package, but it's available as a stand alone as well.
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks Brian! I did not know that! I appreciate it!
@richardzraick9296
@richardzraick9296 3 жыл бұрын
I believe that Gary Pihl (who was working at Scholz R & D in between Boston tours), consulted with Mutt and the band on the Rockman use on the album.
@zublacus
@zublacus 3 жыл бұрын
It's crazy that they recorded that album with a Rockman, but it's undeniable when you hear the chorus on the Rockman.
@SJR_Media_Group
@SJR_Media_Group 2 жыл бұрын
I am so glad I ran into your channel... so many questions and rumors about Def Leppard. Mutt is known as a 'perfectionist' but I think he was more of a 'purest'. His novel way of telling a story with music is legendary. Playing a string at a time really delivers a pure sound. Phil was right, only way to get this unique sound is one string at a time. I can only imagine how many countless hours spent mixing sounds for just one song. No wonder it took months to produce an entire album.
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Steven. Agreed. Mutts gift goes WAY beyond perfectionism!!!!
@jefjahn247
@jefjahn247 3 жыл бұрын
You mean there’s other ways to record guitars other than one string at a time? Man! I’ve gotta get out more often 🤪
@michaelcottle6270
@michaelcottle6270 3 жыл бұрын
A related technique I heard of (I think it was a Glam rock thing in the '70s) was having a guitar with 6 identical strings strumming full barres to build up chords one note at a time
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool!
@Nonexistanthuman
@Nonexistanthuman 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate KZbin sharing me this channel on the algorithm tonight. Like how you shared something pretty mind boggling
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching man!!
@Nonexistanthuman
@Nonexistanthuman 3 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyHuff no need to thank me man, you are the one doing all the hard work for us viewers. I'm positive the musician community and those who listen to music heavily on here will find you. Just keep it up I know others would love to hear this stuff, plus I like how you put your own spin on these topics
@toddscotdrumcovers2341
@toddscotdrumcovers2341 3 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome. That part is ingrained in our heads. Such an awesome sound. Great explanation!
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks my friend!
@NoahNCopeland
@NoahNCopeland 3 жыл бұрын
Sweet! I think Rick Savage demonstrates this on the "Classic Albums" DVD series of Hysteria. It's this same part. He shows it as a simple open chords of D, Dus4, Cadd9
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Noah!! Haven’t seen that one!
@shawnhebbmusic
@shawnhebbmusic 3 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyHuff what???? oh man, you gotta watch those.. .that whole series is pretty amazing....but the def leppard one really stands out.... also never mind and dark side of the moon, and the tom petty one is really good. ..you have some cool stuff to watch my man... (I'm pretty sure their on prime..) Cheers guys
@michaelcottle6270
@michaelcottle6270 3 жыл бұрын
@@shawnhebbmusic agreed, lots of great ones. I like the Steely Dan "Aja" one as well - seeing as we're talking studio obsessives 😃
@shawnhebbmusic
@shawnhebbmusic 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelcottle6270 I don't think I've seen that one... I will check it out.
@michaelcottle6270
@michaelcottle6270 3 жыл бұрын
@@shawnhebbmusic I bought the VHS but this is more convenient kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHjchJ-GnZh-aas The piano player separate from the rest is Paul Griffin who was very Ill and had big medical bills. I think this was his last paying gig before he died. So Becker and Fagin for all the hipster bluster are actually really decent guys...
@Andyanddiana467
@Andyanddiana467 3 жыл бұрын
Man, this is great stuff. I grew up listening to this record and I love hearing how the musical sausage got made.
@XChristianNoirX
@XChristianNoirX 3 жыл бұрын
The Smashing Pumpkins did this on a song called Hummer from the album Siamese Dream, for the bending octave chords of the main riff of the song. That's how they got the bends to sound so impossible-to-play smooth.
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool!
@XChristianNoirX
@XChristianNoirX 3 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyHuff 👍🏻👍🏻 Here is the song... Guitarists have been wondering for 30 years why they couldn't make it sound right. 😂 kzbin.info/www/bejne/kKnSkICPp6Z3o7s The part come in after the intro.. It's like some sitar effect, drums, bass, and then the guitars come it. One of their best songs.. Including the ending solo.
@kevystead
@kevystead 3 жыл бұрын
So good! Always was a favorite for me to play drums on. That album was where the band rose from the ashes and found their sound. It was also my introduction to the band at 11 or 12 y/o
@kylesommerville3716
@kylesommerville3716 3 жыл бұрын
Hello same last name Kevin
@Sr.LaGGarto
@Sr.LaGGarto 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Dr. Bob. I heard a rumor that for Hysteria, Mutt Lange recorded guitars using a Tom Scholz's Rockman headphone guitar amp
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it was a Rockman! I’m not sure which model exactly and I believe it was also modified somehow.
@andivax
@andivax 5 ай бұрын
Very interesting approach! Like layering synthesizers
@whynottalklikeapirat
@whynottalklikeapirat 3 жыл бұрын
"It would have been easy to use keyboard" - Case closed.
@platterjockey
@platterjockey 3 жыл бұрын
But it wouldn't have sounded the same. Sometimes you have to go the extra mile to get the sound you want.
@whynottalklikeapirat
@whynottalklikeapirat 3 жыл бұрын
@@platterjockey That was kind of a joke ...
@platterjockey
@platterjockey 3 жыл бұрын
@@whynottalklikeapirat ...OK...
@whynottalklikeapirat
@whynottalklikeapirat 3 жыл бұрын
@@platterjockey YEah - it is
@JeffRage
@JeffRage 3 жыл бұрын
I always wondered what made those chores sound so unique. And, now I know. And, knowing is half the battle!
@michaeltablet8577
@michaeltablet8577 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I'd found Dr. Bob sooner. Unfortunately some of my tunes went to visit Dr. Delete unnecessarily. . Great video as always!
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahah!!!! Glad u are here now!!
@432b86ed
@432b86ed 7 ай бұрын
I'll always wonder how much of that music was actually written by the band. Respectfully of course. Enlightening demo as usual, Bobby. That guitar technique rings like a bell. Beautiful.
@kenlnetherland
@kenlnetherland 3 жыл бұрын
Bobby, another trick that Mutt would use which is a very subtle touch in Hysteria, is that he would mic the electric guitars like you would an acoustic guitar but he/she would play unplugged. I would love to see you try that experiment. Listen for in in "Animal"
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha!! It’s already on the list!! Thanks Ken!
@tufif
@tufif 3 жыл бұрын
It's like the clean guitar version of what Brian May did in Queen, very cool take on the idea
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Tufif!
@tufif
@tufif 3 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyHuff You're welcome! I've watched a few of your videos so far, but I think this is the first time I've commented on one. Keep up the good work, I'm learning all sorts of new tricks that I can hopefully use on my next album!
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
@@tufif thanks for watching and commenting!! Hopefully they will be useful on ur album!
@chriscampbell9191
@chriscampbell9191 3 жыл бұрын
I still think that Nik Kershaw used this technique throughout "Wouldn't It Be Good", mainly the higher chorused guitars that stick out (middle of stereo spectrum), sounding like a load of duplicate single notes. I think the guitar in the right channel is standard rhythm playing, though... I've thought this since the 80s, as there was no way I could duplicate that cutting sound on my own guitars. Of course, I may be mistaken. But now I know this technique has been used, and was used in the 80s. Certainly, Mutt Lange wasn't the only one.....
@bwm5150
@bwm5150 3 жыл бұрын
Nik said in an interview that the main progression was built up like that with inspiration from Brian May. When it came to play the song live, it was hard because you couldn't quite play all the notes in a chord.
@chriscampbell9191
@chriscampbell9191 3 жыл бұрын
@@bwm5150 I thought so. Yeah, live Kershaw did it OK, but that extra presence of the guitar lines was missing.... I found a vid of him playing at Live Aid and although it sounds good, that chorus of guitars definitely was missed. Thanks for the info, by the way. It was a suspicion I always had about that song (which I always cranked when it was on the radio) but never found any info on the recording of it.
@bwm5150
@bwm5150 3 жыл бұрын
@@chriscampbell9191 no worries! Yeah the Live Aid performance was my introduction to the song and it got me hooked. Wish I could find the interview to link but I think it was on a random channel here in the UK.
@mdurg
@mdurg 2 жыл бұрын
Wow just realizing that now. Messed around with this a little on guitar not too long ago. I knew it was obviously guitar in the recording but I was just playing power chords and it wasnt sounding the same.
@AGENTARMES
@AGENTARMES Жыл бұрын
The notes by themselves are hauntingly beautiful too
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff Жыл бұрын
Agreed!!!
@DAVIDJCARON
@DAVIDJCARON 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating as always Bobby.. All that matters is getting the end result recording to sound as good as possible.. no matter how "crazy" or un LIVE rock'n'roll it may seem.. This Hysteria myth actually influenced me to remove all strings from a guitar, except the only strings I needed for a certain repetitive rhythmic part that used just one or two strings, just so as to eliminate any possibility of getting unwanted noise from not perfectly dampened other strings.. worked great! :)
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Great story David! Do whatever it takes right??? No rules!!
@markofsaltburn
@markofsaltburn 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve never liked Def Leppard but you’ve made me want to play Hysteria all the way through for the first time.
@PB72UK
@PB72UK 3 жыл бұрын
Hysteria is a first class album where there's only really one slightly weak track (rocket) , the rest are fantastic songs
@whynottalklikeapirat
@whynottalklikeapirat 3 жыл бұрын
I am not so much into the rest of their stuff but hysteria is different. It's still kinda vulgar, sugar with sugar on top - its a style - but the songs are strong the the vibe works. I still dig it out from time to time ...
@SkyAvila983
@SkyAvila983 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Rockman Sustainor and got the same sound with just that box (adding chorus and other fx make it complete). Love that sound! Thanks!
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Rockman makes great stuff!!
@TheSteveKinney
@TheSteveKinney 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, smashing job on this one! .. Really probably one of my all time favorite songs and productions.
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Steve!!! Thanks my friend!!!
@fredriknilsson2732
@fredriknilsson2732 3 жыл бұрын
What drum samples did you use? I love the snare!
@matttorrence2900
@matttorrence2900 3 жыл бұрын
Is that Maag EQ worth getting? And I heard some great stuff about the FabFilter Pro Q thing.
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately they are both fantastic Matt!!!! Haha
@Dgarig665
@Dgarig665 3 жыл бұрын
Damn. That's two things in a row I've learned from this channel. Thanks, I just subscribed.
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks David and I appreciate the sub my new friend!
@Dgarig665
@Dgarig665 3 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyHuff thank you for the insights.
@kellecetraro4807
@kellecetraro4807 Жыл бұрын
I worked for DigiTech back in the day, in our quest to get tones for our processors we would as everone knows colab with producers and artists. My understanding was Mutt recorded each note individually summed them, came out of the console then ran them through a rockman for processing. I've heard it done this way and it sounds amazing as does yours. The only reason I comment is, and maybe I missed something but are you adding the effects on each high, mid and low guitar track?
@robanderson3559
@robanderson3559 3 жыл бұрын
The tone on the whole album is killer.
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed Rob
@Mooseboy08
@Mooseboy08 3 жыл бұрын
Good choice on the guitar used. Variax JTV 59, I love mine.
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Haha! Thanks!
@guillermodelnoche
@guillermodelnoche 3 жыл бұрын
You will be responsible for more Mutt Lange Jr.’s than Mutt himself. Awesome video!
@fiddlefolk
@fiddlefolk 3 жыл бұрын
lmao..
@danleveillee2202
@danleveillee2202 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t for the life of me understand why trolls will thumbs down these videos? If I owned KZbin I would require thumbs down to show who did it, and require an explanation for the thumbs down. There would be less unaccountable trolling. 👍🏻
@seanemmettfullerton
@seanemmettfullerton 3 жыл бұрын
(sigh) Yep. Sadly it's about envy, rage, self-loathing, fear of failure, and so on. I agree with you totally. Social media is too often about defamation and character assassination.
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Haha! Yeah gotta love the haters too! I appreciate you having my back! Maybe the hate the beard????
@danleveillee2202
@danleveillee2202 3 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyHuff You Obviously put a ton of time into making these videos, and not only that, coming up with the content, and doing the recording and editing. But even more, you are sharing engineering tips that people spend money to go to Berkeley, or MIT, and through years of grinding experience to learn. I just find it disrespectful to thumbs down a video that is obviously well done. But people going to do what they do. They have a right to their opinion of course, and I have a right to counter that by saying they are dumb asses. 😬 Lol Keep up the great work man.
@ricksalt6860
@ricksalt6860 3 жыл бұрын
Rejoiceful chord sequence , sounds like something that belongs on a Christian rock album . Thanks for the great vid
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rick!
@darrinwilson365
@darrinwilson365 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like an insane prospect prior to digital editing lol. I could see for one particular section or effect
@footnotedrummer
@footnotedrummer 3 жыл бұрын
Wow... you're crushing it with that 1176. I woulda been scared to smoosh it that much.
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah for this type of sound crush away!!!!
@JamesOKeefe-US
@JamesOKeefe-US 3 жыл бұрын
This channel should be so much larger. Love your content!!! 👍 🤘 🤘 🤘
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching James! We are very happy with the growth and thankful for people like you!
@joelbennett2759
@joelbennett2759 3 жыл бұрын
Cowboy Song (and others) by Thin Lizzy utilizes this same kind of thing. Stacked single notes as backing harmonies, not as guitar solos. Much more pristine with Mutt and DL than with the rough Thin Lizzy sound. But, a similar trick. Great Video!
@bylleet
@bylleet 3 жыл бұрын
I used this technique using a Tascam syn-cassette 4 track in 1984
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Nice…
@DrSteveAllen
@DrSteveAllen 3 жыл бұрын
Bobby - You never disappoint!
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve!
@michaelnc4450
@michaelnc4450 3 жыл бұрын
Great post Bobby!!!! Thanks!
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Michael’!
@DH-zw6vz
@DH-zw6vz 3 жыл бұрын
Great video on guitar sounds. Mutt is crazy creative. Also, I heard that Chris Cornell screamed into guitar pickups for a vocal part on Black Hole Sun. Any truth to that? As always, great job Doc!
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dolb I appreciate you watching. Yes that is true he did scream into his guitar!
@AimingWanderously
@AimingWanderously 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for this. Very cool stuff! I'd love to see you dissect how they get that bright, popping sound in the main riff & intro of Armageddon It. I use a little poppy palm-muting and upstrokes to emulate that sound but I've wondered how they did it on the record, if it too is single string recording.
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Great idea!
@MrJarbyJarb
@MrJarbyJarb 3 жыл бұрын
If I remember right I don’t think there was any drumming on the album. It was separate drum strokes pieced together.
@seanemmettfullerton
@seanemmettfullerton 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, bud! Yep, the best producers strive to make things work, regardless of how strange it may seem to the players. Ravel did stuff like this to make violins sound like guitars. Ha! If we're not experimenting, we're not progressing :) Thanks bud!
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sean!
@johnabbottphotography
@johnabbottphotography Жыл бұрын
Bobby, This may sound ridiculous, but did you consider moving each track (from each string) just a hair farther than the previous one, to create the "strum" of the notes being hit in succession? And yeah... now I want to go try this.
@guthriejenkins
@guthriejenkins 11 ай бұрын
When you play single guitar lead lines separately like on double or triple lead guitar, the vibrato and envelopes of each note in each line are different than if played in chords together. Not better, just different... and I think that's what your excellent video is illustrating here. And it also gives the mixing engineer more control over which voices--guitar voices--to bring forward and backward. But thinking about that level of detail in the automation gets me... well... I wouldn't want to do it unless I was paid a lot. But you could gate out a lot of noise that might otherwise live in chord transitions. Now after watching your video... I might try it.
@Stormwriter
@Stormwriter 3 жыл бұрын
One thing similar to this - and maybe you can try it out, is for a guitar to be mixed to where the pan from left to right depends on the pitch. So, if someone were to play a scale, a listener with headphones would hear it going from lower left to upper right as the scaled progressed. Sometimes a xylophone is recorded this way, with two mics, so as they go higher the other mic picks it up. I just think it would create a cool effect while listening with headphones.
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Yes very cool and great comment!
@fakshen1973
@fakshen1973 3 жыл бұрын
Mutt knows his shizzle. The man could move some serious sales units.
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!!
@TimE_5150
@TimE_5150 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again Bob, that was an awesome dissection (yes pun intended) of the brilliance of Mutt Lange's creative process. The next time my Father calls someone a Mutt (like he does often) I will have to explain that all Mutt's are not equal!
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha thanks Tim!
@8MinuteAxe
@8MinuteAxe 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this one Bobby. Great work. The filmmaking is top notch too. take care.
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Mark!!
@CoppersmithProductions
@CoppersmithProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Bob! Sounds very close to the record and cool to see it finally broken down like this. To my ear the delay sounds a little off from the actual recording, but I'm probably wrong. (Wouldn't be the first time.) Keep up the awesome vids, man!
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Delay may not be the same! I didn’t really try to nail the sound exactly but I tried to nail the part! Close enough to get the point across!!
@7stringbassist
@7stringbassist 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve just come across your channel. Loved the last couple of Mutt Lange items. The bv’s he did with Shania were amazing as well. Quick question, and I’ve looked through the comments before asking, what drum sounds are you using? They absolutely nail that Rick Allen sound.
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Mark. They are some sounds I’ve gathered and put together to emulate that Hysteria vibe. Thanks for watching the channel!
@brainsniffer
@brainsniffer 3 жыл бұрын
Incredible how far someone will go for THE SOUND. That album has always been one of my favourites.
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
No doubt man!!
@nickwallette6201
@nickwallette6201 3 жыл бұрын
Oh that's not even that big of a deal. :-) It reminds me a little of how Bohemian Rhapsody had so many overlapping vocal parts, particularly the "Magnifico-oh-oh-oh" thing. Just typical studio chicanery. :-D
@cameroncorrosive925
@cameroncorrosive925 3 жыл бұрын
that was still awesome, i was reliving some childhood nostalgia lol.
@MrDaneBrammage
@MrDaneBrammage 3 жыл бұрын
“I’m going to record each string separately so each attack happens simultaneously, but I’m also going to load each track with so much delay, chorus, and compression that you can’t hear the attack anyway.”
@thelolguy007
@thelolguy007 3 жыл бұрын
I’m guessing when he listened back to it in the mix dry it just didn’t work so he had to add certain effects 🤷‍♂️
@rapid13
@rapid13 3 жыл бұрын
There’s a subtle difference between “simultaneous attack” and “no arpeggiation.”
@the6ig6adwolf
@the6ig6adwolf 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't Dave Lombardo do something similar on the Slayer album Show No Mercy? But with drums obviously.
@BenShockeyEngineer
@BenShockeyEngineer 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for demonstrating how Mutt recorded one of many amazing sounds on the Hysteria album. Keep the videos coming!
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ben!
@rapid13
@rapid13 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Doc. I like the album well enough, though when it released I was disappointed that it wasn’t Pyromania-heavy. That said, Hysteria is my favorite track and an all time great song, and that is its most iconic section.
@OAlem
@OAlem 3 жыл бұрын
Like an Octopus with a pick in each tentacle. I definitely hear it on parts on other Hysteria tracks. Rocket, for sure. It creates this artefact that sounds like the cymbals are adorned with hundreds of tiny cymbals or the glissando of a magic spell. I always thought it was a cymbal effect back in the day. Thank you so much! Mystery solved! Maybe Mutt got the idea from giving RIck Allen another hand, so he might have thought "Why not give Collen more hands as well?" Because this was never done on Pyromania, for example, was it?
@Liverastic
@Liverastic 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool breakdown of an very interesting technique. This is the first video I've seen from this chanel.... I gotta ask... Is that Windows Vista?
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Windows 7
@TheRockerxx69
@TheRockerxx69 3 жыл бұрын
That's why they stayed in the Dutch studio 3 years.
@pal4597
@pal4597 3 жыл бұрын
Love it Bobby... great job.
@ruthlessadmin
@ruthlessadmin 3 жыл бұрын
I never really thought about it but always thought that was done with a synth. This is way cooler.
@chrisdunnettmusic
@chrisdunnettmusic 3 жыл бұрын
Erwin Musper who is a friend of mine and engineered for Mutt Lange did tell me that he would sometimes record each Bass note on a different track...for example...all the G's on 1 track all the A's on another etc. He did this so he could EQ them individually. Again, that was told to me personally by his engineer ;)
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris. Makes sense to me! I actually did a video on this about getting great low end. I didn’t use Mutt as an example but I think Max Martin is on the thumbnail…
@chrisdunnettmusic
@chrisdunnettmusic 3 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyHuff Coolness! You're very welcome :)
@mr.e8432
@mr.e8432 3 жыл бұрын
Actually did this on a bass part once. The part had the A string droning off a run on the D and G strings and EQ’ing the part was a nightmare. Either the whole thing sounded way too thin or the droning A string made the whole thing sound like mud. We tried recording the A string separately which made eq’ing much much easier plus a little volume automation worked like a charm.
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Awesome!
@horizontalblanking
@horizontalblanking 2 жыл бұрын
Just got around to this… very nice! Allan Holdsworth did a similar trick with the band UK. At the end of the song “Mental Medication,” Allan does some great chord work, with each note being played separately. Massive sound.
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 2 жыл бұрын
Love Holdsworth!! Next level……BRILLIANT!!!!
@jimzepol
@jimzepol 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome ! Thank Doc
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jim!
@billribas
@billribas 3 жыл бұрын
So cool, real chimey type sound. Thanks as always, you're the best
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bill!
@AljonGo
@AljonGo 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing tone. So much meticulous work from Mutt and the band. Brilliant!!!
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed Aljon!
@cancelbubble6535
@cancelbubble6535 3 жыл бұрын
What's missing is contrasting/comparing the composited solo notes with playing the actual chords.
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
I guess we will have to trust Mutts ears!
@slapitman
@slapitman 3 жыл бұрын
Ok here's another little piece of the puzzle on the Mutt Lange (pronounced lunga BTW !) story. With Mutt growing up in africa as I did I can echo his formative listening experiences and say they would almost certainly have been South African radio. For some reason a great deal of AOR style melodic rock made its way to the airwaves (local and limited international artist due to the equity ban) and somehow left an indelible mark on the youth. Heavily regulated state radio also sandwiched in folk and european eclectic music that was harmony laden as well as orchestrated and we grew up on this odd diet. The nett effect is a generation who somehow relate en-mass to Mutts musical tasted and harmonic structure. I have seen it in countless South African bands and can pick out a Lange produced artist/song by ear. Odd but true!
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Very very cool Blackdog!!
@ObsidianLife
@ObsidianLife 3 жыл бұрын
It just sounds like he was trying to avoid bleed and frequency clashing… I mean it is super picky but not all that shocking once you get past the hyperbolic headline….(not meant as an insult… )
@MrGul
@MrGul 3 жыл бұрын
"A little more randomly" - what...? That part hits beat 1 of every other bar, that's extremely structured and not even a single hint of randomness!
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Random in context to the other parts where every note was played
@MrGul
@MrGul 3 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyHuff Highly disagree. The other parts have a repeating pick-up line by two 8th notes before beat 1 every other bar, which this part simply skips. Nothing random about it even in context with the other parts.
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrGul Um.....okay....what you said....
@billytremoloband7456
@billytremoloband7456 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video! Think the same trick was done on the start of white room by cream
@profoundsinger
@profoundsinger 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos! But I have a MINOR gripe…the plug-in delay is pronounced mowg…long O vowel sound. Sorry bro, just a pet peeve of mine. Great content though!!
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
The Maag?
@markmywordsreviewchannel3860
@markmywordsreviewchannel3860 3 жыл бұрын
Love your Mutt Lange videos. The guy is a mystery and so damn talented. Love hearing more about his techniques.
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark!!
@myownyoutubification
@myownyoutubification 3 жыл бұрын
Another gem from Dr Bob!
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@jordanharzke9643
@jordanharzke9643 3 жыл бұрын
Super cool bro, can’t wait for more. :)
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jordan.
@humbuzztube
@humbuzztube 3 жыл бұрын
Not just Hysteria... A long time friend who was a popular morning radio personality in Sacramento got to know Craig Chaquico during Starship.. said Mutt squeezed all the pleasure out of recording with his One String guitar process... I guess you just sit back and count the money when Mutt's at the helm!
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha! $$$$$
@Corey_G
@Corey_G 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it was because of the guitars tuning / intonation imperfections?
@matchismo
@matchismo Жыл бұрын
To my ear on my old cassette. I pick a higher guitar part. It might be an octaver effect. I just pluck strings.
@matthewJ142
@matthewJ142 3 жыл бұрын
I like it when it's done like a looper where you add on each part on top of each other as opposed to just hearing the one string. It should be done like vocal harmonies.
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Cool…
@chadhero37
@chadhero37 3 жыл бұрын
Tons of people can sing. Tons of people can write decent songs. But very few people can take an average song and make it amazing. Mutt Lange is a genius. He can make anyone a top seller
@BobbyHuff
@BobbyHuff 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed Chad!
@NeilBolandGuitaristWriter
@NeilBolandGuitaristWriter 3 жыл бұрын
It sounds like Joe Satriani employed this trick on some of his earlier recordings, too.
@dclipper8052
@dclipper8052 3 жыл бұрын
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