The Biggest Problem With Destiny 2 Right Now…

[@harrisonczichas4341]

This is exactly how I feel. People nowadays playing videogames, (not just Destiny), because they fear of missing out- FOMO. People play videogames because they HAVE to, not because they WANT to. I HAVE to get that Godroll before it disappears. I HAVE to get the weekly quest done so I can get that item before it resets. I HAVE to grind so I can be ready for this event. People never WANT to game, they MUST. People used to hop on games because they felt like it, back when games were designed for the people. Videogames were made to be fun, not to function as a secondary job. I play videogames for enjoyment, (I know crazy. Call me old I guess). I have on vesper of radius and Helion so I can spam my solar soul. It’s not effective at all, but I love it and it makes me happy. I don’t care how good it is, because when I play Destiny, I don’t think about all of the negative stuff that people have said about my favorite sub classes. I just play the things I like. And that’s how people should feel about videogames in general.

[@Idontevenknowman779]

Most Destiny players dont like the game. They just are addicted to it and it has become an integral part of their lived

[@coreyveggies9894]

Don’t forget invested*, in the story & in the hundreds of dollars I’ve spent between the base games & their DLCs

[@riddell26]

Nah.. Its a retirement home for millenial fps gamers. The orderlys wont let us go.

[@Idontevenknowman779]

@@coreyveggies9894 yeah. Like a video game turned into a investment. A game you play for fun turned into an investment just think about that

[@davidgabrieltaylor]

My problem is i farm weapons but have nothing to use the weapons on except farming more weapons. Let me farm something like onsaught and make the rewards rare cool shaders with a 1% drop rate and i get super excited when it drops. Let me farm a skimmer that looks like a surf board in bonfire bash with .5% drop rate. Give me a chase. Give me cool loot. Let me flex some hard earned rare shit besides weapons.

[@Xenomorphenia]

You have a very valid point here. People talk about vanilla D2, but the game felt MUCH more fun back then. I still miss the Leviathan Raid and all the preparation for it back then. I love D2, but I think they should've stopped the game with the The Final Shape and moved on to a completely different game.

[@vesmoper]

Destiny 2 failed when they pissed off its playerbase. It all started with the vaulting of content, making purchased content inaccessible, making the game feel like a bloody chore, and overall poor QoL features. No option to view past custscenes. Unable to play old missions similar to Destiny 1. Adding a Tag number system with numbers people don't like, FOMO. As a once Destiny player I quit cold turkey when they f'ed up after forsaken . Poor executive decisions lead to the failure of the IP, much like Overwatch. I regret buying content towards live service if it will turn out to be garbage like this. What a waste. THE EPITOME OF FAILUREEEEEEE

[@kfclover811]

I like how strong we are. My biggest issue is that nothing feels worth doing. A big Part of that comes with being an endgame player. You just know how everything works and have all the good stuff. Beyond min-maxing your gear there isn’t much stuff left for you to do that’ll spice things up. That just comes with the territory. I don’t want them to nerf how strong we are or to raise the skill floor as that doesn’t do anything for endgame players, and just makes things more annoying for regular players and needlessly more difficult for less skilled or newer players.

[@heinzbruno1]

Exactly, in this world, there are skilled, end game players, and there are casual players. These are left out of the game, because it offers no choice in a menue to get to play "easy" or "expert", etc. We casual players have no choice, so we must play the hard core. FRUSTRATING

[@JQDeathFromAbove96]

As a solo player I’ve quit because finding a group to teach the new raid is 9/10 times impossible and I don’t have enough time anymore to search FAIL after FAIL for a decent team that can also teach. I’m not against hard content I just think if you gunna make it so hard that people refuse to teach it then you’ve gone too far as an overpaid developer!

[@starkraven1148]

I haven’t quit personally, I’m a solo player too. I absolutely agree, I was willing to try all the new raids but this new as cool as it looks i just don’t want to go through the trouble of learning these mechanics and being stuck for 3 hours on 1 encounter. As solo players we both know the longer it takes us to do a new raid the harder it gets to get someone to teach it. Which is why I like dungeons more.

[@JQDeathFromAbove96]

@@starkraven1148 same

[@MrRickysteven]

Im angry, i like to play the Dungeons and Raids and team kick you out of teams like they born knowing all the stuff en D2

[@MrRickysteven]

@@starkraven1148 iconoclasm i quit the legend campaign because of that too

[@mertgemicioglu5346]

@@MrRickysteven This also happened to me a lot of times. I have given up on raids. A few tries ended up badly because I didn't study that raid enough. So won't study the raids that hard and it's not funny so it's better to stay away in my case.

[@slackstarfish8133]

It’s been a chore since Shadowkeep. There’s a reason I quit after Forsaken. And I know so many people stuck with it, but the way yall feel about the game now is how I’ve felt for like 4 years. It’s always been like this, yall were just distracted by the FOMO and the dangling carrot of “oh this dlc is gonna come out and be the greatest thing ever.” Which it never was btw. And now that there is nothing on the horizon, you’re realizing that you’re not even having fun. Everytime I ever tried to get back into the game, I would do a couple quests, see how the game had just become a chore simulator and instantly feel bored to keep playing. That never was a problem in Destiny 1. I feel bad for the people that never actually got to experience that game and buy all the “rose-tinted glasses” nonsense that D2 players always throw around.

[@itzdan0s477]

What’s ironic is I’m new to Destiny and even though I only have a few worlds left to explore and play the campaign from the beginning or whatever’s left of it. I’m striving to get good enough to play endgame content and experiencing everything that you are saying. It’s such a good game that I’ve fallen in love with. Not having everything and knowing anything allowed me to have to explore and travel hours within each planet. Perhaps I should enjoy my time as a noob until it becomes systematic when I master what I want to.

[@rmaniduzzit1009]

I just started playing destiny a few months ago with 5 buddies we run raids competitive dungeons it’s all new for us. And we ain’t stopping till the servers stop

[@NoodlesJules]

I quit because I dont like how the company composes itself. To be fair, I had played Warframe before I got into Destiny. I would've never played Destiny if my dog didn't chew up my laptops charger, 6 years later, Warframe's Devs still somehow managed to care more about their community than Bungie as an entity cares about their own. For crying out loud, they even have their own convention. It's saddening. But then again, I dont really care anymore. I just felt like being that guy and voicing my thoughts. I say just let it go. Don't support Marathon either, Bungie is gonna be solely Sony soon and I dont think any of us wanna be there when Bungie is a hollow shell of it was.

[@swarlly]

I quit because it was such a chore. Now that i know they are dialing back to 6 mo expansions I'm thinking about playing again tonight.

[@heylb4943]

I quit because of them making shax and Osiris gay for eachother

[@CYPRUS008044]

I remember turning the hud off and playing hide and seek in the tower with clan mates back in D1...good times. Yeah the fun aspect of the game has been very low for a long time now, such a shame

[@FarronSPL]

The thing y described killed for me Monster Hunter. The knowledge the knowledge I dont want to have. If y once get it you will have it for the rest of life. Min maxing everything, speedrunning drain the happines that once just playing with friends gave us.

[@starkraven1148]

Easiest way to make this episode engaging is they should’ve made Saint turn and make us try and save him and fight him. Have some stakes for the character without it being world ending. I’m hoping the exotic mission and the next episode is better. I’m definitely bored. The down time isn’t helping either.

[@onimiske]

Been playing since d1 we had a good run,shax "defeat comes for us all" I started to play the first descendant It has its moments

[@dozy_kbm_60fps56]

i want to forget my first time so i could get that first expiriance all over again

[@ripvision]

Yeah but have you guys seen my new cars?

[@norcal7074]

They need to add more stuff for us to do besides light fall & the raid, it’s all the same shit we’ve had for literal years, seasonal weapon with 1 mission a week, gambit, dares, ect. Give us a new forge event or something else to grind, onslaught was awesome, but they need to add some new maps or enemies. Only thing I’m looking forward to is the Nessus dungeon

[@twistblitzzi1960]

Meanwhile new and low level players can’t play half the game 😂😂😂😂

[@Pistallion1]

Like what?

[@mongypro]

Skill issues

[@derikc24]

Because there's nobody left to teach them the raids, dungeons, and other end game content.

[@Pistallion1]

@@derikc24 thats pretty delusional

[@jatochgaatjeniksaan3307]

​@@derikc24thats beyond not true

[@chelsthegameruiner8669]

I remember still hoping that after the Witness was defeated, that Nezarec would be the next antagonist until we beat him in Root of Nightmares. Apparently he's not really dead, I guess the dude is like Freddy Krueger where he still persists so long as we remember him but I don't see him being the villain. I definitely hope its not Xivu Arath since I'm tired of the Hive constantly being a narrative plot point

[@JeffKryger]

I still get enjoyment from the game. Between running raids with my clanmates (who I genuinely enjoy playing with) to taking on various challenges/triumphs, there is still some challenge and excitement for me. But I also have only been playing for about a year and a half, not since day one.

[@Waxedem9199]

I hate that I’m late to the party and everyone’s already burnt out. I started playing in January and been hooked since.

[@mossyoakmafia5880]

I can remember having way more fun in D1 just playing… D2 is way too much of a chore… having surges gotta use this weapon this week for this nightfall next week something different, just let me play with the weapons I want to play with and let me have fun

[@J0Nramirez]

Yeah. The immersion has been broken for a long time. That's, i think, the underlining reason as to why no one cares the way you described. It's sad but it happened. No one thinks for themselves anymore and the community not only advertises but encourage cheesing/exploiting/cheating and click bait "must haves/must do" every chance they get. The community compromised itself. Toxic, impatient, and uncaring. The management of the game is for sure to blame for the game's low point here, but the community is not innocent in contributing to broken immersion and negative sentiment.

[@heinzbruno1]

Same for me. Today 16.10.24, the next day after the Tuesday reset (yesterday) I feel it has become even harder. I am in this game since the beginning years ago and you are right, it was fun and beautiful. Now it is a woke chore, hard to play, nerved weapons (since yesterday my Sunshot does no damage as before). Played Vanguard Strikes yesterday night, had to quit as I was furious that I could not do damage with my "older" weapons (exotics included) other than stasis. As a casual player, like MOST! I never got to be as lucky as to get 2 or 3 100% stats distribution. I could only have 1 at 100% Resilience and 70 Recovery as maximum, through all these years. It is a chore and it proves with the "bottle Lady", this childish invention to get the bottles and essences, is nauseating. You have to do many of the same to get the "powders". Everything is so repetitive, like the nauseating repetitions of Encore, till you get herpes. This game must be played as bungie wants. But not for me. I play as I WANT! Therefore I am quitting this s.h.i.t. and play now Cyberpunk/First Descendant/Warframe. A pity, after so many years loyalty (and paying for all DLCs!). Finally i am just fed up with the woke, unplayable contents. (BTW, try, as a casual player to do the new dungeon Vesper Host. You will nag your fingers off! It is not doable for casual players and it is very hard for so called expert players. Bye Bye bungie, you broke a beautiful and almost perfect game. (I want my money back)!

[@xerxes5785]

I disagree with some of the points you made in the video. First of all, a "universe ending" story has nothing to do with how good the story is or how it's not. You could tell a story that's not "universe ending" and be better than the story that is. Also almost every single villain in Marvel and DC is a threat to the entire universe, Ultron, Thanos, Darkseid and many others. Or another counter example is Joker. He didn't wanna end the universe or anything he just had a point or philosophy to prove and the writing for it was good and it paid off. So in conclusion, the level of threat that a villain proposes has very little to do with how good the story is. The second point which I disagree with you on, is how nowadays we try to mid-max everything in Destiny and get the best gear and stats and it became like a chore. I honestly don't know to what extent that's Bungie's fault more so it's the fault of the game being an MMO and being an 8 year old game. Look at a game like WoW, it suffers from the same thing Destiny does, people try to mid-max every thing and the game is basically a chore at this point or ESO the same thing. The only way this problem gets solved in my opinion is either a Destiny 3, which unfortunately we know it's not coming, or a hard reset and a restructuring of the entire game.

[@pencilswordfish]

I think it's just unnatural what we've done to games where they have to be 'endless' experiences - AKA turning them into esports and/or live service games. Best thing I did with games recently - is to just let the experiences end. Just stop and move on, like in the old days. Leave the best memories where they are and not let these things become chores. With Destiny, I do all the new stuff, dip and move on, come back when there's major new content and never pressure myself to keep playing. Also, I'll just go ahead and say it - no amount of fixing and sandbox changes and system changes will make D2 'NEW', Destiny needs a long break and come back with D3. Thats it.

[@jackburkel4119]

I don't think the live service model on paper is the issue, but moreso the greed of companies nowadays. It's so easy to slap a battle pass and have seasons in everything And we have Fortnite to thank for it. Live service is supposed to be more than that. Destiny has such a phenomenal foundation and everyone can see it but instead Bungie doesn't want to innovate, they want to monetize. They give the bare minimum so as to keep as many people as possible from leaving without putting in more effort than needed. It just sucks.

[@collusion-d4n]

The problem is its old. The game is probably at one of the best states its been, but if you've been playinjg it the whole time its just stale. Same raids, same dungeons, no improvements to open world, honestly, planets are boring as well. The episodes and seasonal events before that were tedious after a point. Meanwhile, core playlists have died, and very little has released that's super exciting.. they nailed Final Shape, but not the actual long term gameplay loop. I feel like i've got so many god rolls, why am I mindlessly griding out loot that is essentially the same? The game needs a reboot imo

[@nicholasbaker2904]

Agreed. Thats why I left finally last year. I did turn it back on this weekend. Played pvp only and broke down every weapon and armor piece I got. I did not by final shape bc they got enough of my money over 10 yrs. I played just to play.

[@ميساءالقحطاني-د3ج]

I know how you feel. You just want to turn back up to those old days, but Still destiny to its still a fun game it’s not about the weapons it’s not about exploring. It’s not about anything. It’s about having fun and care about your happiness. Play with your friends do anything? Destiny is it’s not this how to get a perfect weapon how to get a perfect build on your titan or warlock or hunter. It’s about having fun with your friends. Have a nice day, everybody

[@azx127f45]

Great vid im sure majority of players feel this way. Imo destiny 2 has never been a REAL video game. Like destiny 1 the armor and weps are a no comparison, bck when bungie cared :( hope someone makes a game someday that gets us all hyped to play EVERY time

[@nicklafave351]

The game is still fun they need to update mobility options quick steps more blink options. Better sword play

[@hornbeamarmanik8590]

Such a great game I took two long breaks lol, played d1 from with queen and left at curse of osiris.took 4 years off and returned with the reprised kings fall. Playing for 3 years and bored already. Such a base game with no new innovations, 3 characters, every Tuesday wait a couple of hours coz the engine is from the dinosaur age. List can go on and on...leave the game man if u value your health.

[@sofaking1627]

Been a chore to play Destiny since like 2019

[@blacktiger0095]

Its the only game that i actually play for the gameplay. I cant really find a game thay comes close to the gameplay with weapons and elemental properties with the action. Its just been hard to find a game. These style of games always run into the maxing of stats once you hit end game, this game surprised me for hiw long they adjusted end game content, cant lie about that, as much as i hate live service games, theres something to be said about that part, but yeah thays the end goal of all these games, theres always an end to every story and games arent infinite exploring and story missions. You eventually transition to grinding for the possible best for end game content. I dont understand why people get frustrated at that. Modern video games feel foreign to me now and I haven't bought a game this year. Im waiting for Vroken Arrow to drop but thays the only game im looking forward. I think gaming right now, sucks. Games blow a*s. Man, i remember when i bought BF2 back in 2005 and i was so excited and kept playing that till BF2142 dropped then was glued to that till BF3, the BF4, Titanfall, then Destiny 1 on release day then Toyanfall 2, then one of my all time favorite games to release, The Division 1 and 2. Man, gaming was amazing right up to 2018.

[@tahaahmed666]

I love destiny 1 and 2 I’ve always had hope in this game I am both pve and PvP player but when I heard the news of Bungie laying all of there employees I was shocked now if you want to know what The CEO of Bungie he spent and lots of expensive cars while laying off his employees For me destiny is a chore because I’ve completed everything in d2 except for the new raid or the episode also whenever you do a raid or do Dungeons people kick you out some with Grandmaster which is off course not fair But I still love Destiny 2 always and I thank Bungie for everything

[@ToadsAndFrogs12]

You say that like it's not been like this for 3+ years now.

[@ToadsAndFrogs12]

Been complaining about the gameplay loop for years on end ever since the sunsetting, weapon crafting and super balance that Bungie pushed.

[@ilredelnulla9837]

i don't miss when d2 was a chore aka year 2, now is not good since is super ultra casual, we need something in the middle

[@truebacon133]

That's just a problem with players as a whole nowadays. Although content creators are the obvious ones since it's literally your job to play it, many other players also play it like its their job, and with destiny, especially you're playing the worst parts of Destiny 2 more than the good parts since Seasons are garbage busy work with the big things being expansions and dungeons. D2 is terrible if you play it consistently because all the game is built around is tedious, busy work outside of new expansions and dungeons. Even the events have been turned into this, along with another source of income with the event pass.

[@Lamonticus]

I agree. As much as a loved The Final Shape, once I was done with the expac story, I didn't want to engage with the Act stuff as much.

[@AnthonyAnalog]

Destiny went the wrong route with Raid designs. Raid's should be places where enemy AI is it's absolute smartest, and new enemy types both exist and hit harder than anywhere else in the game, combined with ticked up spawn rates, thus requiring 6 people to clear. Instead everything is stand of these plates and memorize these symbols in separate rooms mechanics. Which is the lazy way to artifically create challenge. It has less of a team sport and more of a try to vote in a gerrymandered district as a marginalized demographic feel 😂

[@SPARE4RATIONS]

20 runs on Ogre only had one shotgun drop and it was hot garbage

[@zipper125snowputty]

Im just mad that they clipped the mountaintop's wings for no reason. It was a fun movement option and simultaneously decent at handling bigger enemies. It had 2 decent aspects making it solid, not OP, just solid. Now its no longer viable as a movement tech as its not worth spending the special ammo for a mediocre ass jump, its still decent for killing tankier enemies but its just straight up boring to use. They make it their priority to take out all the fun stuff.

[@CrocZzZz]

The game is still enjoyable. Can’t please everyone

[@robertscott5092]

Just let it die guys. You do the same thing for 10 years, eventually it is incapable of entertaining you.

[@GodleyRango]

Well to be honest it’s hard to have the same amount of hype and content as when a game commes out but I get your point of frustration but we have to be fair yes bungie could do a better job with the repetitive content and only focusing on cosmetics and more on the actual game but this happens in every game even cod Fortnite all games

[@GregChase-m4u]

I completely agree but I blame the fanbase, I said this from day 1 when everyone argued to make exotics available to everyone ruining the idea of exotics. Somethings should be so difficult to get that it is possible you never get it. The game should be extremely difficult if its was designed to be endless (aka 10yrs), it can also be viewed as this is the end of the 10 yr journey as well. However, I do feel that the Destiny has a way forward in moving away from separate light /dark classes and leaning into prismatic tying that into the story and making us the main villain and breaking away from the vanguard and traveler but eh if its over it was a good run.

[@JB.zero.zero.1]

Yep, great tactic, purposefully prevent lower skilled players having access to the toy box.

[@GregChase-m4u]

@@JB.zero.zero.1 bulding for everyone is building for no one - hence current state

[@Pbag1985]

Hi Mate. In November people were saying Bungie killed destiny because Lightfall let them down, now you’re arguing Bungie shot themselves in the foot because Final Shape was too good. There’s no answer other than maybe take breaks from Destiny from time to time? Just hours after every reset/launch of any new content streamers share all the puzzle solutions, god rolls, cheeses, meta builds so new content becomes old so quickly. There’s no thrill of discovery anymore because of streamers and players like me watching them. The biggest problem IMO is the D2 player base is aging and falling off. Bungie should’ve worked harder to attract new players instead of trying to appease whining old grumps like me.

[@raulm.1556]

Destiny's biggest problem is that it still exists.

[@ruberbob66]

they need to start fresh with destiny 3

[@SupaSpaceBunnies]

This is just the effect of the seasonal model. There will never be secrets under a drip fed model because you can't hide a secret in a drop worth of content. Destiny was always at it's best when expansions were dropped in full every year. Unfortunate feeling that the crowd that loves the game turned it into this drip feed experience by being constantly hungry for content. When there was new Destiny, I want to grind it til I'm done with everything and then let it rest for a few months. Instead it's been at an awkward in-between where there's nothing interesting enough to grind out, which is bad, but at least I don't feel like I'll miss out if I go play other games.

[@_jn0298]

I'm a solo player and joined this game like 4 months ago and is already going to shit lololol time to go back to genshin impact

[@hornbeamarmanik8590]

Final shape arguably the best dlc which lasted 2 weeks so.was it really a banger?, I myself cannot play the game as the grind is too dry.n boring. I want the game to die already.....game is now enjoyable for newer players only, people like myself 7yr will.have nothing new

[@mreasyclap]

I played Destiny 2 more in Curse of Osiris then I am now. Which is just sad and speaks on how bad the state of the game is.

[@jatochgaatjeniksaan3307]

Its not a chore its a game. Im so happy when i get to play

[@azrazerz1445]

Crafted weapons ruined the game. Completely removed the reason to play the game. Grind new gear at launch, get patterns, never play again. They removed the chase for loot and that sucks

[@fransonferguson2979]

Do you know how to make the story better no... do you have real world examples of writing in movies or live service games no ... so no help huh ..no

[@JB.zero.zero.1]

Become a filthy casual.

[@michaeldost8155]

I’d rather die a filthy casual than a soulless completionist.

[@JB.zero.zero.1]

@@michaeldost8155 hehe, yep

[@kingovo1687]

streamers are so out of touch

[@fransonferguson2979]

Oh my God ....we get it 😊 thats why Bungie is killing the game ..player base is too old and bored ...can you suggest another game

[@XXLiquidcyanideXX]

The final shape was a massive dissapointment on all accounts. I can't even bring myself to log on anymore, and i payd for the season pass. Fuck destiny 2 and anyone who wants more of it.

[@theventureguy2479]

Well fuck me then XD

[@fransonferguson2979]

Rants to kill the game part 5337889999

[@joebaby9450]

Its just a chore now hit me too hard 🪦 rip