THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS with Ogre Kingdoms Campaign - Omens of Destruction DLC - Total War Warhammer 3

[@sirunklydunk8861]

Tyrant: Oi! The lads are starving here, grab some meat from the camp! Bull: We can’t boss, the paymaster trusted the key to the larder to a Gnoblar and now we can’t find it

[@milkandcookiesTW]

you haven't even watched the vid yet and already called one of the major ones, niceeee

[@xLs58x]

My maneaters couldn't defeat empire swordsmen.

[@milkandcookiesTW]

im running a full Maneater stack with Golg as you can see in the vid, and haven't run into anything like that. There's clearly big issues with splash attacks on monstrous infantry right now, but it doesn't seem to trigger the same way in the same engagements for everybody. In my tests and campaigns, its mostly been normal. Very strange

[@joshuagardner3789]

It’s so random when it does and doesn’t work I’m a hundred turns into my ogre campaign and have the same army on one battle fight just fine then in the next battle it just doesn’t makes no sense at all.

[@spellbound1875]

​@joshuagardner3789 It's animation linked so literally RNG on what animations get played can have a big impact. It's pretty wide ranging but hard to see apart from units where almost all of the animations are broken like the war bears.

[@aidanc9396]

I've had the same. Some battles the Maneaters will tear apart whatever they're pointed at. Some battles they need to be bailed out in a fight again basic infantry. Sad!

[@mickethegoblin7167]

Lol

[@JohnJohn-qr9hr]

Forget Golgfag's skyhigh rewards. The fact that he also starts with leadbelchers and a scraplauncher is also massivly huge. What hightier unit does Skrag start with? Some gorgers. And Greasus? a single irongut. They should update those start units. Give Skrag some blood vultures, atleast, and a single leadbelcher would also improve Greasus' situation.

[@jiado6893]

I know this is a small thing, but I don’t know why the leadbelchers shoot proper cannon balls instead of the explosions of junk the lore talks about. Blunderbuss units are a lot of fun. It should be the maneaters who could own and maintain proper cannons.

[@David-tr2ul]

The difference between the three is big since he has leadbelchers but I really haven’t found the scrap launcher to be very good. Idk what they changed but between its poor accuracy and extreme reload speed, that thing sucks

[@amor1830]

they will never give Skrag blood vultures because it is a DLC unit and CA doesn´t want people to have a DLC unit if they don´t have the dlc

[@JohnJohn-qr9hr]

@@David-tr2ul oh true that, but for me it has benefit just to be able to hit the enemy from afar, when none of them have artillery in the start, making them run to me on the battelfield instead and save me the vigour.

[@JohnJohn-qr9hr]

@@amor1830 ah thats true, didn't think about that. I especially forget it since Skrag has a lord effect that gives -20% upkeep on vultures.

[@nicholasjohnson6279]

Changes I'd like in order of importance: - Fix splash attacks - Fix Greasus and give him his gnoblar throne as either a quest battle, or as a simple level up reward - Let us choose the displayed Big Name. As of now, you just get whichever name you acquired last. - Have bounties spawn based off of lord locations. amount of money and meat is usually fine - Lower the meat cost to establish a new camp to 200 Meat - Introduce a skill, ancillerary, technology, something that reduces the amount of time an ogre camp has to wait before being redeployed. - Fix auto raid on camps

[@jiado6893]

I know this is a small thing, but I don’t know why the leadbelchers shoot proper cannon balls instead of the explosions of junk the lore talks about. Blunderbuss units are a lot of fun. It should be the maneaters who could own and maintain proper cannons.

[@nutellac3695]

@@jiado6893 That's not true. If you used the time spent complaining about it to check the actual game, you'd see that projectiles that leadbelchers shoot are bundles of rusty weapons and scrap and not cannonballs.

[@ImperfectCT]

Very lame to max out a camp, highest tier structures, and have no use for meat. No maw buffs, no transfer, it's like early reikland and their prestige that piles up to use on nothing. We need to spend it on something besides building, because buildings run out.

[@milkandcookiesTW]

100% agreed

[@jiado6893]

I would think that the armies with way more elite ogres and ravenous monsters would cost exponentially more meat to maintain.

[@Igorgraph77bbbb]

Agreed

[@draugr121]

Just let us transfer meat from a camp to another and to armies, that would fix a lot of problems.

[@Mikalent]

With contracts, payment should be the choice of Meat OR gold, that would fix Golg's contracts to be a bit more in line.

[@Monkfist]

And maybe a 50/50 option too, best of all worlds.

[@enricocappi3171]

Had the same problem with skrag during a coop, i could only increase my winds of magic by a +5 using sacrifices to the maw, and ALL around me was either -10 or -15. When i saw the +2 i hoped at least they give the ogre the chance to increase winds of magic through camps or other ways.

[@milkandcookiesTW]

yeah i forgot to mention my entire starting regions were all hit by the negative Winds modifiers, so even with Bone to Pot active on multiple armies I wouldnt have been able to overcome it, and WoM would have still stayed at the minimum cap

[@enricocappi3171]

@@milkandcookiesTW And here is a thing: i'm fine with factions that don't have channeling stance. But orks increase magic level in every army just based on waaagh level, elves get turbo charged in woods and by squeezing it out from captives, beastmen by raiding, ogres get nothing. So i'm fine with it being tied to sacrifices, but at least make it +10 (15 would be ideal)

[@MercytheMad]

Yeah it's like a wave of Splash attack hysteria is sweeping the community, people afraid to play ogres, afraid to use units that aren't even affected by it. A lot of people don't even want to play the DLC now because of it, people that have not even noticed the issues themselves or been affected by it, just like panic from 'hearing' there is a problem. It's kinda crazy to see.

[@porkers7792]

> The Ogres lose their wallbreaker in the latest update > I play the DLC day 1 >Advisor tells me my ogres can break down walls. Did anyone playtest battles in QA? I know it seems small but having stuff like that can really confuse players new to the game or the faction. Some other stuff I noticed. The contract tooltip above the army is a bunch of code sometimes. When you fight an army with reinforcements, and you win and hit end battle before reinforcements arrive, sometimes the reinforcements will just die. I killed Festus's 20 stack of chaos warriors this way. Despite saying otherwise, pathing through settlements as Ogres is still terribad. I think the DLC is definitely ok but the lack of polish and bugtesting is real. To be honest it kind of gives me the vibe that CA is soft-abandoning the IP. Give it a skeleton crew and then work on the next big thing.

[@Omnomface]

...ogres still have it in my campaign. Greasus and the guys can still knock down walls without sieging.

[@HiddenEvilStudios]

Something CA could do is give "levels" to Wallbreaker, where all monstrous units can do it but at different strengths like it now works for bonus damage versus buildings for artillery. Things like Ogre Bulls and Trolls could do no or very little bonus damage while Rogue Idols and Giants could in turn do a massive amount.

[@porkers7792]

@@Omnomface So lords and heroes can but Ogre Bulls, for example, cannot. Where they originally could, I believe. Still displays a large discrepancy between tutorial (which tells you all ogres can wallbreak as a passive) and actual gameplay (in which lords, heroes, and specialized wallbreakers such as arty can only do it)

[@kapixniecapix3869]

If they abandon IP, my wallat will abandon they next games even if they are good.

[@humantwist-offcap9514]

Yeah, they’re abandoning the most profitable franchise they’ve ever had

[@adriankoch964]

This was the only of the 3 DLCs I had some remote interest in. Until the broken splash attacks and lack of food back transfer, I will hold off on that too.

[@davidjankraayveld7784]

Is a thing like that for you a reason to not buy a DLC?? Broken splash attack will be fixed and lack of food back transfer will be fixed by CA or by a mod. If you like what you see game wise you should not let these two issues stop you, in my opinion then.

[@chelo136]

the spalsh damage is fix by a mod already, works like normal

[@Scriptures_K]

@@davidjankraayveld7784 If a car had many faults, it would be enough to make you not want to buy that car. If the DLC has many faults, then it's enough to make someone not want to buy the DLC. No harm waiting for it to be fixed before buying it.

[@Nend4]

@@Scriptures_K 20$ vs ***grand

[@dtt719]

@@davidjankraayveld7784 why not wait until it gets fixed and then buy? There’s so many things to play and for myself I have very limited time. I’ll wait until it’s patched and play something else in the meantime

[@lryiss9407]

My thoughts on the dlc are PLEASE GOD GIVE ME BACK SFO I CANT LIVE LIKE THIS

[@IKillo-vl2li]

Man, always seems two steps forward one step back with anything CA does these days. Looking forward to the day they give us a new engine.

[@IroskTheOrc]

"Wahhhhhhhhhh" that's you... because it's more like 20 steps forward one step back.

[@bypyros1933]

​@@IroskTheOrc Lol, no. It's two steps forward, one step back

[@tomjackson6268]

That’s still a step forwards though.

[@gingersroc]

​@@IroskTheOrcI'm not sure what games you've been playing, but yes, it is up then down with CA.

[@liamcullen3035]

In a complex system, it’s very easy for a well-intended change to have unintended consequences. This is one of those moments. It’s nothing special, nothing dire, nothing emblematic of deeper issues or moral failure at CA. Just a normal human error. Let’s not set our hair on fire, like the dumbasses on reddit.

[@KommissarAlexander]

As excited as I am for this DLC, I'll wait some more for CA to fix the kinks

[@Ghrail]

Great video. It should not be overlooked how CA nefed Ogre Tyrant Lords in SP by removing 2 levels of the Greater Girth skill (which you could take 3 times before, increasing HP and WS). Now you can take it only once. This is huge potential HP and WS nerf.

[@jimbothefuzzy]

The math on the Winds of Magic added to the reserves is that you're effectively adding 3 Winds to your reserves every 20 seconds (assuming you're at the maximum rate). You also get double the rate of conversion from reserves to your pool, so that goes from 1 per 9 seconds to 1 per 4.5 seconds. However, that ability is only active on your lord. So I see two primary ways to use this. The first is having a spellcaster lord that goes out ahead of the army and casts spells to kill off advancing enemy units. Then they come back to the lines and you have some extra Winds available for casting after the lines clash. And that will sustain through the rest of the battle. The second way I can see it used is with a lord who isn't a spellcaster, but has some way of getting kills before the armies meet. This gives you more Winds when the armies do meet, though arguably not to the same degree as the former method. Either way, it gives you more spells per battle as long as your lord is alive and killing things. It doesn't make much of a difference in quick skirmishes without any chance to activate it before the fight really starts. But in bigger and longer battles (especially sieges as the attacker), I can see it making a difference. And on the note of the camps, I think a potential option would be to be able to set a "Meat Reserve Threshold." Every turn, half the meat above that threshold is distributed to the armies in range of the camp. It might not be a perfect method, but it would fit the theme of Ogres using their camps to store meat that's spread among their armies. It might not give the level of strategic control a lot of players want. But you can sometimes argue that super-precise control can be sacrificed for flavor. And if you do that, maybe Greasus will take meat from every camp he's in range of, even if it's from another Ogre faction. Because he's Greasus.

[@MrZogsify]

I was playing as Skrag pre patch and my starting army was absolutely rolling over the early enemy state troops. Post patch the ogres are struggling with basic swordsmen... Definitely not a few units here and there. Early sieges as Ogres are now almost impossible.

[@cheaptastic3220]

The splash damage bug effected ALL monstrous units. For some reason there’s a lot of people who haven’t played recently (or never played) ogres and they don’t realize that they should be doing much more damage to infantry

[@Bimbes_McFly]

I've had problems with the inability to transfer meat back from the camps when I kept accidentally transferring to the wrong camp 😅. My tier 5 camp getting thousands while the new tier 1 was left to sit as tier 1 a little longer

[@EveloGrave]

Complaining about Grimgor is funny to me. Been that way since IE lauched.

[@Scriptures_K]

GRIMGOR IS DA BEST!

[@warhammerguy]

Did a huge 100+ turn greasus campaign before the update dropped and I immediately felt the difference in ogre bulls and ironguts when playing Golgfag. The bug is definitely affecting them. Ogre bulls with dual weapons should not be struggling that much against basic Empire units even if they have anti large.

[@cheaptastic3220]

Also did this with skrag and I can confirm ALL monstrous units were effected.

[@pavloszannas7459]

A problem I also spotted is that if you gift a settlement to your contractor it does not count towards your victory condition. You HAVE to sack, loot or raze which probably has to do with the way the coding is made

[@nurglenuggets]

The camps switching to raiding stance happens when a building completes.

[@SolusLupi]

so already gone in making small personal mod tweaks of what I can, gotta say removing Golg's teleport actually makes the campaign feel much better. Instead of just zipping across the map on a button click now once a contract is done there is some thought too where are my armies? what contracts are nearby? Do i have somewhere I want to angle my travels toward? The teleport is actually the largest problem with Golg's campaign it removes thought and planning, there is a wonderful mod on the workshop called random changeling start position that as it suggests lets changeling have a random starting point at campaign start. Golg would massively benefit from a similar randomized start from a pool of locations rather than the super gamey teleport button.

[@marcel-q1m]

Wait what you can teleport as golg? I'm like 40 turns in and never seen that before lol

[@Hatch0]

​@@marcel-q1m Its a button left and over his portrait, it becomes active once per contract

[@tim2slimjim]

I had a weird thing with Golg's contracts. Got a contract to fight Puppets of Misrule. Teleported to Cathay to fight. None of the settlements belonging to Vilitch were worth any contract credit. Even gifting the settlements to Cathay only gave me 1 credit. Only the 2 armies Vilitch had were worth anything. So I failed the contract, cause they couldn't make armies fast enough for me to defeat them before the timer expired.

[@pacivalmuller9333]

Tzeenth-Trickery

[@jiado6893]

Just have it so you can take meat from the camps, but you have to beat up a stack of Ogre Bulls for it. And minor repairs have to be made to buildings. Perfectly keeps with the lore!

[@Selakah]

I sincerely wish CA would take more time balancing and reigning in the power creep. Power creep is not fun, it leads to short, steamrolly campaigns. The worst part of this power creep is when the shoe is on the other foot: now you are fighting against the power creeped OP faction controlled by the AI and it's just not fun. -The Chaos Dwarfs came out over a year ago and CA has still done nothing about the 17 AoE massive nukes they have in every field battle. It's not fun to fight against this. -The Dwarfs have been insufferably OP in the hands of the AI since Thrones of Decay, and there's no nerf in sight. Fighting Dwarfs in campaign is a miserable experience, you pretty much need to cheese as much as you can to win. You have to trick them into wasting their ammo to even stand a chance, and god help you if they have Thunderbarges and you are playing the Greenskins, Slannesh, Khorne, or similar factions with no good way of taking on those blimps. Why doesn't the Thunderbarge have a cap yet, like the Dread Saurian? -Tamurkhan released with 3 Ikkit Claw nukes on command. While the nukes have been nerfed, his stat line remains ridiculous, and his chieftains are beyond broken OP. It's not enough for factions to be fun to play as. Factions have to be fun to play AGAINST. I feel like Campaign Balance has never been in a worse state.

[@pepparmostheelder]

Really? I find that Chorfs are easy to fight. You just have to keep an eye on your line during the first couple of minutes to waddle out of the aoe's

[@saltedllama2759]

I find none of that to be a problem. Also, it's single player, and based on (pretend) world sociopolitical dynamics, so balance wouldn't make sense.

[@pepparmostheelder]

@@saltedllama2759 Actually it does. Overal player enjoyment determines how long the game survive, including SP games. And game balance - whether you like it or not - can be a determining factor for multiple people

[@Selakah]

@@pepparmostheelder Artillery crews simply cannot move out of a Dreaquake battery in time. In some maps (such as underground siege maps), the "ceiling" is lower than in open fields, and the Dreadquake Battery lands almost instantly on your units.

[@jiado6893]

“Eight thousand meat a pop” is such a weird and funny line.”

[@blakedavis4209]

There's a serious issue with Golg in multiplayer. If you're playing a FFA, and your opponent is, say, Karl (could be anyone), Golg can still get contracts from "Karl Franz". If Golg accepts it, Golg gains everything he would as if Karl were an NPC; he gains vision, the ability to teleport, and any actions done while employed by "Karl" count against Karl's reputation -- even though the real player playing as Karl did not issue the contract. CA, please fix.

[@davidjankraayveld7784]

Would be fun if Greasus would be knocking at your camp every X amount of turns asking for his cut of your profit as the overtyrant! And if you don t give him the money/ meet you have to fight a strong 20 stack Ogre army.

[@Haiphong778]

I'm really glad you do these videos, and that CA listens to their players. I hope it goes well if they do address it. Often times it seems that when CA notices a crippling bad game design, they just pave over the original element which was a cool concept in itself, and make a more functional but generic feeling faction. Sorta like with Skaven and their Food mechanic, or Norsca being relevant.

[@ashgrey8678]

I am also starting to wonder if there is a memory leak or some of the new units are causing slow down. I was about 75 turns into an arbaal campaign when I started noticing some slow down, the game crashed when I was loading a battle with kairos, and in the fight to claim arbaal's unique weapon there was terrible slowdown for the last half of the fight. These things haven't happened on my pc since I threw my 4070 in there. I usually rock between 75 and 120 fps except when the ai is taking its turns.

[@cheaptastic3220]

Also had some stuttering issues when I was playing yesterday on turn 30-40 or so. Definitely something wrong with the game

[@sokar_rostau]

I only watched this video tonight instead of tomorrow because my game just slowed down and crashed.

[@dejec19891]

I noticed the bug on my first Golgfag campaign, got destroyed by Nordland's second army full of spearmen, and the day before the patch I was playing a Skrag campaign and destroying border princes with the same armies. Installed the mod that changes splash damage back to what it was and tried again with Golgfag, recked that army no issues.

[@ebokianknight]

Pit of Shades currently tracks units if you cast it in them. Cannot be dodged.

[@francisbongiovanni3608]

Bone to Pot was a life saver early on as Golg, but I don't see how you would make it work on Greasus. Golg smacked down like 200 zombies and then I was dropping a comet of cassanodora every 20 seconds. If Greasus was on foot or was a proper chariot I think it would be awesome.

[@milkandcookiesTW]

is it based on the lords kills, not the caster?

[@killtacular4444]

@@milkandcookiesTW Yeah, because the Offering to the Maw is tied to the army and thus the lord. Works great on Skrag, but it is very awkward on non-slaughtermaster lords.

[@maxpflughoeft6806]

@@milkandcookiesTWI think it says that in the tooltip for it that its based on the lord for whatever reason

[@Monkfist]

@@killtacular4444 Golg will have the same prob then huh, sure he can kill but 500 kills without aoe spells is a big ask

[@josephtucker8456]

@@Monkfist You don't need to get to the max intensity for it to still be quite powerful.

[@TequilaSunsetVids]

Thanks for the mention dude. Hopefully CA gets it fixed sooner than later. Should just revert the changes. If they want to take a deeper look under the hood that can come after the hotfix.

[@knighytriss5909]

Next week btw.. CA sucks

[@Weresosorry]

Definitely agree with the gold and meat problem. You get waaaaay too much from contracts. Also, since only Golg can TP to contract givers and you can complete them so quickly, having any additional armies just felt kinda redundant. I just used Golgs stacked army & rotated one of 2 camps for each contract. The 'bounties' felt completely irrelevant too. I really enjoyed the campaign but it was trivially easy.

[@thehonestaspy102]

Being able to transfer meat from camps to armies, and being able to toggle off which armies/camps receive a share of the meat would both make a huge difference

[@freshgandalf8946]

What I have experienced is that in isolation, like an empire spearman vs a maneater, the bug is the most severely hampering unit performance. In a mixed brael of gnoblars vs two spearman and an ogre bull unit charges in, the spearman fold super quickly even if leave the bulls in. It is very strange.

[@simonbas6]

I'm glad that they overcompensated with Golg's contract payouts. Given how anemic the contracts were on launch, its better that they were overzealous

[@johnolsson2923]

Point is that CA should have automated tests that catches issues like the splash damage.

[@HiddenEvilStudios]

Can you embed hero characters into camp armies now? If not, we need that too. Give Ogres Channeling Stance at the cost of meat per turn if need be or tie it to the Hunger meter.

[@Trakosh]

yeah, you can shove them in camps

[@marcel-q1m]

You can, at least it gave me the ui indicator.

[@linussyren9221]

Would be interesting if there were different types of food. Depending on faction. Transfer could just be your army sitting inside the camp “building”. Gold tooth is only good for his defeat trait. Edit: 13:00 That’s why I love small size, those LL that are unkillable in ultra aren’t in small unit size. They are still strong but not actually immortal.

[@Nubloot]

I also like to dabble in MP but atm it's unplayable. certain units just not doing any damage anymore kinda breaks factions.

[@ShadowWalker-ng1it]

I'm fine with the wom ritual because it gives a pretty strong ability to your lord and increase wom reserve while the battle is happening BUT it needs to generate more than 2/turn

[@PeterButchens]

That not returning meat to the army mechanig actually screwed up my first campaign. Really frustrating.

[@josephtucker8456]

There's a building that gives you reserves per second for armies in the region like the Empire gives with their battlemage building

[@daddypudding9074]

Honestly, think maybe making Greasius bigger might help? A bigger hit box sure, but maybe giving him bigger attack range and splash attacks might help. I could be looking at it wrong, but giving him the mass and size to push through ogres easier and better splash might help

[@wolfsigma]

Thats a real shame. I feel the most fun part about being a Merc is when a contract goes bad or your army eats all you money and resources and you are really pinched. Its what made Mechwarrior 2 Mercs so neat... that scary possibility of simply running out and having your entire organization evaporate.

[@sassyviking6003]

Your Greasus comments are kind of surprising to me. maybe it is the fights I am taking, but I have seen him performing a lot better. Like consistently 1200+ value. He absolutely spanked Tamurkan on toad dragon. Like he still definitely has some issues to be worked out but it was decidedly better at least in my anecdotal experience

[@milkandcookiesTW]

against specific large targets he can be very good yeah

[@marcel-q1m]

The biggest issue i had with him was that he just gets stuck in his own bulls and can't move anywhere. If he is somehow able to get his fat fingers on something big he kills it real quick

[@sassyviking6003]

@marcel-q1m yea, that meshes with what I've seen too. All ogres traffic jam to a degree, but he is markedly worse about it. If he gets in and among cav or other enemy large targets, he shreds though. I willingly let him get surrounded by rot kights and he was dropping 1-2 entities per swing.

[@cheaptastic3220]

I think the main issue is he is so immobile, which I like, however his melee stats/ animations/ inability to kill infantry is terrible. He already does well against large units so I think all they need to do is look at his animations and then give him a massive bonus to infantry.

[@masqueradis6925]

These issues are why I'm leaving playing the Ogres to last despite being arguably the most exciting of the dlc content. I figure it's better to play Khorne and Greenskins while stuff get fixed by the devs and/or modders, then get a better experience with the Ogres in a week or two.

[@molochicken]

Bone to pot is stackable. You stack four armies with bone to pot in the same battle ogres becomes tzeench

[@milkandcookiesTW]

ok but why would I be running 4 stacks in the same province? not sure i understand the reasoning that one Bone to Pot (that costs actual resources) would be so much worse than one Channeling stance for another faction (that doesn't cost resources)

[@Monkfist]

I got a feeling that this is not intended...right?

[@Tuboshi0815]

@@milkandcookiesTW Bring three extra lords without units, they all get meat from the battle.

[@oberonfayland8339]

I played a short ogre kingdoms campaign with golgfag, and while I like most of the rework (I refused to play ogres before him, just didn't find their playstyle fun) I found his campaign to be...very lacking in direction because there was no real build up because as you said, entirely way to much resource gain, I was having tier 5 units really early on in the campaign and had no issues supplying the funds for them, and towards the end of the campaign I had fully built camps with like 3k food I couldn't pull out of them

[@NagashLordOfDeath]

What has annoyed me so far is I was doing a contract for a norscan faction, was about to finish it. Then that faction got confed by throgg who declared war on me straight after which almost derailed my campaign. Not only did I get nothing for doing those 8 turns on a contract but then all that territory was now my enemies

[@dukeofawesome3718]

I really hope we get a Cult of Ulric DLC

[@liamcullen3035]

As a layman with no code experience or even a single ogre campaign under my belt: could Greasus’s performance issue be that he always attacks from his sides, rather than in front like most characters seem to?

[@ThunderingSun]

I'd like to see a change to victory conditions for Golg. It doesn't really make sense for him to be building an traditional land empire or ravaging the countryside when he's plying his services to the highest bidder. Just my opinion.

[@samueljackson605]

Agreed on the prob list, Golg is very fun but way too crazy lucrative. Can't trade from camps at ALL even units, and that's dumb and wasn't thought about. Grouping units in battle has a problem too: can't drag units into groups. WHY on earth can Golg not enter into alliances with factions??? Why wouldn't he have the option at all? These def need to be addressed asap

[@JohnSmith-ij3du]

i tend to agree with your comments about Grimgor. There are a growing number of LL in the game who are so strong that I don't actually want to fight them manually as they are practically unkillable and can destroy your entire army by themselves or with their powerful army abilities. I play with balanced themed armies with small numbers of high tier units and I don't like using cheesy tactics like kiting Grimgor around the map or doomstacking. I think LL should NEVER be unbreakable so at least you can get the Army Losses victory if you are fighting a powerful Lord. I find fighting Chaos Dwarves and Tamurkhan also unpleasant. The CD dreadquake army ability that destroys entire units if you don't notice it is too powerful. Tamurkhan has a similar army nuke ability and a very strong crew of heroes, at least he is a big target for missiles. I needed three stacks of High Elves to defeat 1 of his stacks in Auto Resolve in a recent campaign. I found both factions to have very high auto resolve results . So I dont want more powercreep in DLC, just good stuff. I am currently enjoying the Gorbad campaign as his special tactics sort of tie in to the type of thematic armies I run.

[@stuntman083]

Can you look at Blade of Khorne ability? It looks like it stays greyed out no matter what

[@jamesfermor425]

Echo your criticism about the bounties in Greasus’ campaign. All have been way too far away. I don’t bother looking at them now

[@TheFlibidy]

Yeah. Bounties are mostly just a nice bonus reward when they happen to coincide with your campaign plan, but rarely worth declaring war for. In a way it's better with Golg's contract mechanics, because you can pick a contract based on which bounties are available, but Golg needs the bounty rewards even less than other ogre factions.

[@rorydonaldson2794]

I haven't played the dlc yet, im going to in a couple hours, crack into a coop. Really hyped. Shouldnt watch this first but what the hell. Might get some useful tips

[@grayrook8637]

As a counter point to they just perform em" school of thought: give me more loot such as magic items and ancillary and temporary buffs. Nerf Golg absolutely, but also make the reward feel like a calculated choice than simply going for whatever you fancy.

[@totallylegit4092]

In a lore video you promised us a Belakor lore video. Just curious if one day we will get it. I avoid all other Belakor lore videos purely on the off chance that you do it 😂 Sorry I know it’s off topic. I may have had one too many to drink. Apologies.

[@provaznikstepan]

hey guys can i expect the hotfix tomorrow when i get chance to play or on monday?

[@milkandcookiesTW]

splash attack bug fix will be next week

[@hallo-mt5tx]

i heard about the splash bug and decided to not buy until its fixed

[@Phatcaulk69]

Did Cookies die or something?

[@xavierwong1889]

He had spoken about burnout a while back so maybe it finally caught up with him.... it would be a shame I really like his coverage of warhammer games.

[@user-oz1ut2rd2o]

I miss milk and cookies bro literally my favourite total war coverage youtuber cuz of how funny he is

[@thehamman210]

No he’s still alive, he’s been busy playing Marvel Rivals so maybe that’s why he hasn’t been uploading videos lol

[@Hosheyakozilla]

He tends to return for DLCs and then disappear for months on end these days. He spoke out about burnout a couple of times and difficult life circumstances so who knows. Not to spite the guy (I can understand not being as motivated as he once was), but I've mostly moved on to other TWW content creators for my MP Battles and lore.

[@beardedfreckle]

I don’t want to see him nerfed because I like his concept, but he does feel alittle Changling-ish.

[@cygnusx-1256]

The Skragg and Greasy are underwhelming still. Greasus is just a crap bag on the map still. His knock off Karl Franz/Jade Dragon mechanic is interesting. It's quite easy to avoid starving armies but it doesn't make sense that you can't just transfer meat more openly. I can't get behind more nerfs though. Not until the issues are addressed then we can discuss balancing but it doesn't make sense to nerf units and mechanics when we don't even have a good baseline due to so many issues. IMHO

[@tybaltmarr2158]

The biggest problem is Greasus' mount is still a wheelbarrow

[@aidendilley6428]

I do think the time limits to complete the mercenary contracts are a bit punishing

[@isaacgorski6054]

To be honest, the bear cav and other monster cav have bigger issues than just this. Like the attack animations being based on the mounts instead of the rider ever attacking. This crap drives me nuts and it's why I don't use half of the monster cav in the game. Would be nice to see the knights actually use their halberds or lances. And they could probably line up attacks better and more frequently

[@laneledford7383]

So ive never had the issue where my army ran out of food, BUT i am so bad for giving food to the wrong camp and giving a maxed out camp like 2000 food that they dont need and cant use

[@gingersroc]

TequilaSunset getting name-dropped in this video made my evening. Please, if you enjoy watching multiplayer, subscribe to him. His content is great.

[@stuntman083]

my first Golfag campaign and the game started me with a Lore of Heavens butcher LOL. Didn't think Ogres got heavens..

[@Juanchodh]

I messed up when I made my second camp in my campaign: I was supposed to give meat to the new camp, but instead gave it to the old one. Such a bummer. The other thing is that (It might be a 'me' problem) you can't pick units from a camp-army into a normal army. Why, CA?

[@thepiousskull]

For me, the worst part about 6.0 was the Khorne rework. The emphasis on stat-stacking to egregious levels that we're getting with each rework and DLC drop is really killing my enjoyment of the game and now they've gutted my favorite faction. The completely removed the purpose of Bloodletting in growing your empire unconventionally through maintaining constant momentum, now it's simply a rater pointless means of stacking buffs even that pale in comparison to the insanity you can get just from the tech tree and lord skills. The roster has been turned from less complex with its melee focus to completely one-dimensional when every unit can stack stats to reach or exceed 100+ level stats in each category. Post 6.0, the race has compeltely lost its unique playstyle of having to maintain constant aggression to stack Bloodletting's global bonuses to growth and acquire income from battles and sacking. Now, your armies can be made considerably cheaper, you have an economy that can mostly keep up with recruitment without the need to constantly sack or fight to stay out of the red, and Blood Hosts are now completely redundant since they don't provide anything globally to the faction with their Bloodletting, they receive no benefits themselves from Bloodletting, and your armies are so cracked by turn 25-30 that you can solo multiple stacks with them with extreme ease. So tired of this focus on powercreep that is erasing the best part of the Warhammer series: the diversity of its different races and factions and their rosters. When every unique campaign playstyle gets homogenized for the sake of being simpler and easier for low-skill players and stat-stacking erodes distinctions between units in the same roster and distinctions between rosters themselves, eventually, the game will cease to be a strategy game and it will cease to feel like Warhammer.

[@Wizard_of_Light]

This is a problem in nearly all of grand startegy games. Remove playstyles to change them for spreadsheets and buff/malus. It is absolutely annoying.

[@CJ-wh7ik]

I'd rather play this than some annoying and weak ahh campaign for the sake of mechanical diversity. No one LIKED previous khorne. Now it's much better

[@thepiousskull]

@@CJ-wh7ik You're talking out of your ass. No one had a problem with pre-6.0 Khorne outside a handful of players that can't be bothered to learn how to play any other way than turtling and getting angry that the hyper-aggression race doesn't reward them for doing so.

[@tiramisu8924]

I think the amount of bugs is a bit ridiculous and such obvious ones too.

[@samikazbe]

I might be off topic but I cannot find a way to recruit Regiment of Renown with my lord. Am I missing something?

[@WTF-Viper]

do you know what happened to the skaven space marines mod? that link from your old vid does not work anymore.

[@orochirel]

I like the teleportation mechanics, most of the time I stay in the same place all the game, not with these

[@TheRadude]

One thing I noticed is that majority of ogre units do not have wallbreaker. Is that a mistake?

[@JPereir4]

I'm at the point now that expansion release dates aren''t worth it. Wether it's over or under tuned units, game breaking bugs or iimpossible to lose on legendary campaigns. This doesnt feel like a 22 dollar dlc and 8 months since the last. Seriously unimpressive.

[@liamcullen3035]

Yeah, “bone to pot” seems really weak. +2 WOM per turn is pathetic, it doesn’t even offset a weak local wind, which applies -5 per turn. Other factions pay like 10 points of movement out of a base 100 to get +20 or so winds per turn in channelling stance. Ogres don’t have to pay movement, which seems great, but 20 meat per turn is still a critical resource. I suppose part of that meat cost is also going into the battle buff that comes with the magic generation. “Bone to pot” should *at least* generate the same WOM per turn as channeling stance, so +20 or so. Maybe more, depending on what we think the equivalence between meat and movement points should be.

[@OleNesie]

I just thought i was really bad facing into nurgle infantry

[@OniGanon]

Damn, I bought the DLC specifically to try an Ogre campaign and it turns out monstrous infantry are broken. Oh well, guess I'll try playing Arbaal or something...

[@Weresosorry]

There was a mod made pretty much straightaway that fixes the issue :)

[@Donnie8888]

Camps switching to raiding stance every turn is infuriating.

[@jiado6893]

I know this is a small thing, but I don’t know why the leadbelchers shoot proper cannon balls instead of the explosions of junk the lore talks about. Blunderbuss units are a lot of fun. It should be the maneaters who could own and maintain proper cannons.

[@milkandcookiesTW]

they do shoot explosions of junk. pause the game and look at the projectiles they fire when you get the chance, its not round cannonballs. its like, forks and shrapnel and assorted random things

[@jiado6893]

@milkandcookiesTW You are correct, I've examined their models. What I mean is having a really wide spread of projectiles, like Cathay and the Chorfs can recruit.

[@Saw7th]

I vote for content creator to get early access before these dlc releases. Write a NDA or something. Feels like no one tests or plays the game and no logic at times... Fustrating sometimes...

[@disabledcable685]

Turn 40 Arrbaal I have 300k+ gold and 80,000 skulls, I was unstoppable at turn 3 lol.

[@ConanAshConn]

I think that a camp of feasting Ogres with their brothers outside starving is very lore friendly, and kinda funny. New update to attack your own camps and eat them, let’s see it CA.

[@woshingtonluiz5675]

Mods fix already 😂

[@tigerz5071]

I felt something was off when I played golfags campaign my ogres were losing against T1 trash units

[@jboydis]

Biggest issue is not transferring units from camp to army... and then only camps can recruit RoR... meaning you cannot really recruit RoR. Wtf.

[@meksil8776]

Armies can recruit RoR, you must be on owned territory to recruit them (as with any other faction)

[@TtotheCizzel]

They should just make Greesus into a great unclen one. Just reskin the model, as it is its unworkable

[@Kebraliciouse]

My big issue is all that damn teleport. I hate it. Be creative do something with stance or something. Giving teleport just seems CA lazy. Also the camps with teleport when moving. What the actually fu**??

[@malice9830]

I played arbaal and on second turn it crashed to desktop i have outdated updated mods active any1 else have this issue

[@mohussain4792]

Hey @milkandcookiesTW5 vibing to the back ground music! What's its source?

[@Tottisimo]

And with all these reasons I just abandoned my Golg campaign 15 turns into it because it's too boring and too strong. Drowning from all the resources.

[@raynightshade8317]

Very much dislike when people rate a dlc bad because of the free patch

[@daangoes121]

The new Lord is super op

[@omikamiz568]

Ah...so that is what happen. No wonder why army of Maneater could barely win.