The Biggest Scam in Twitch History | Asmongold Reacts to Ludwig (Mogul Mail)

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[@HojuMedia]

As someone whos lost family to cancer. The fact he stole money from a chemo patient makes this unbearable to sit through. Send him jail. And thanks Asmon for being one of the few to call a spade a spade.

[@danrussell27]

@@Quintessence4444 No it was a woman who Miz added to the call and she sounded broken. He admitted that he scanned a woman that had cancer, had been going to chemo, and was about to have a serious surgery. SLIKER EVEN ADMITTED TO IT TO MIZ BECAUSE IT SOUNDS FUCKING CRAZY!

[@HojuMedia]

@@Quintessence4444 I was referencing a different incident. I dont know what you're talking about

[@arctikvg3693]

@@Quintessence4444 He‘s talking about the girl with connective tissue disorder

[@yeungscs]

to be frank, Twitch probably only wants to ban for stream content and not over hearsay/drama if there's no collaborative, definitive proof from almost all parties involved.

[@ct1173]

@@Quintessence4444 Ok and? Your input wasn't asked, Mr. IAmSmart.

[@Jane_under_a_tree_with_a_book]

Twenty-four hours ago, he was crying - well sniffing at least - and confessing all. Twelve hours later he is begging for more donations. He needs to be in prison.

[@dreamwar1586]

Under.

[@lovaion]

Goddamn I hate these kind of people. Just a brat. Just a bacterial. Useless man, for real

[@AIIu_]

Post proof of him begging for more donations. I understand you hate the guy but don't spread misinformation.

[@danrussell27]

@@AIIu_ He was talking about doing a subathon and lets be real subathons are 100% begging for money dude belongs in prison. Zero remorse and he is an absolute scumbag.

[@yA-tk3sx]

@@AIIu_ check his discord. He was planning to do a 1 yr subathon to pay off his debt 🤣

[@nozumikatana6446]

I’ll never give someone my money just because their “bank is screwed up”

[@hassnainkhalid2416]

Then you my friend are smarter then those who got scammed...

[@the_moo7130]

Bro the only type of money I’m giving my friends is 20 dollars at most ya know spot the gas for em np ain’t giving nothing over 20 dollars man

[@romulus34]

it's not the bank he's lying

[@the_moo7130]

@@romulus34 really oh wow never thought of that when he wanted that 30 grand I was like wow the bank is being mean

[@prodigalbrock]

I would tell them hey let me talk to your bank on 3 way and let's figure this out

[@DoubleDguitar]

There’s a fine line between empathizing and enabling.

[@DoubleDguitar]

@@FartquadGI especially with the defense for it out there, clearly demonstrated and properly called out here.

[@corzarguy]

You're right, enabling is giving money to Sliker when he asks for help, empathizing is getting the help he needs through helplines and mindset changes, also un-listing him from all gambling sites.

[@emmacatte]

Imagine having been given 100k to pay off EVERYTHING and start fresh and he manages to still fuck it up. So many of us would kill to get a asecond chance like he got.

[@AndTecks]

Yeah because train is suffering after he created thousands of people who will do this... ok

[@zacharylivingston683]

i would be cool with 100k any day of the week

[@FallingForgiveness]

@@AndTecks lootboxes in games are doing this to many more people, and before trains stream became a big gambling stream. Sort out your priorities, kids are being engaged in gambling from the moment they have a console / mobile device / PC. (if they play anything online that is)

[@EricOneHive]

What a coincidence that Sliker admitted to a gambling problem immediately after asmond said on stream what his best next move should be, it’s almost like he was watching the stream

[@naosou921]

Asmongold guessed it was gamble because it made sense and because this whole story had all the tell-tale signs of gambling problems. People who knew Slicker, like his mods and his friends, knew that he gambled, so there is also that. Take off the tin-foil hat boys.

[@GoadedGoblin]

Imagine a world where a "hot take" is just saying that a criminal should be treated as a criminal. That's how warped some people on Twitch are. Really glad Asmon isn't dumb AF.

[@Goobzor]

no the hot take is ludwig said he should not kill himself and does not deserve to die and asmon asid i dont care about him. later on he turned it into he should go to jail. and he should. but at the start it was about him being suicidal.

[@paulkiddas]

@@Goobzor lmao, he can do exactly what asmon said and i would eat my salad in the same way, no, i would watch videos about it while eating lel

[@natalyst]

@@Goobzor nothing of value would be lost if he did, though. infact, the world would be a little bit better. he serves no purpose to society, he's just a parasite that pumps other people's cash into the hands of stake

[@unkxz9149]

@@Goobzor ​ that's the thing, I too, don't care if a stranger on the internet killing himself, even less for a criminal. sorry, it's sad and I can pretend to care but nah...

[@XavierShade]

Well it’s the same world where people still like and defend Trump so it’s way more than just the Twitch community. Just goes to show what blind loyalty can get you.

[@hectikriley8773]

i respect people like Asmon, he isnt scared to say what EVERYONE is thinking

[@RealmDesigner]

That's a dangerous take. Don't presume to know what ANYONE is thinking. Focus on your own thoughts.

[@weevie_stilfat]

@@RealmDesigner okay, the overwhelming MAJORITY.

[@undeny]

@@RealmDesigner they meant what most people are thinking and yea most people here if you look at the comments do indeed feel this way

[@diro9655]

@@RealmDesigner Found the andrew tate wannabe lol

[@AIIu_]

@@diro9655 What does that have to do with Andrew Tate? It's a completely correct take.

[@Hahahorde]

Sympathy ends when you cross the line from victim (gambling addiction) to perpetrator (scamming people).

[@elijahbennett88]

Sympathy for victims. Accountability for perpetrators. An addict doing harm to others is inexcusable, and a recovering addict would be the first person to admit that.

[@Smellycarl]

My best friend became a drug addict, took money from me and stole my car. He's now a father with a good job and a happy life. Your just a piece of shit if you think people deserve to die for making mistakes just hold them accountable and don't enable them.

[@multiplebread]

Thank you for saying this. The amount of people spamming enrage and raising their pitchforks at the mere mention of the chance that this career criminal might have a gambling addiction and now needs our sympathy and help is infuriating. This dude hasn't even provided any evidence of gambling... con mans gonna con, fool you once shame on him, fool you twice shame on you. He's already proven how good an actor he is otherwise he wouldn't have gotten away with it this long.

[@ruinmin7642]

I think sliker did show a video of his gambling logs and there were hundreds of bets, not sure if he faked the site or not though. doesnt change much regardless

[@nicolaspace1182]

What is this bullshit? Who cares if he was scamming to feed an addiction, doesn’t excuse anything. The man is at the very least addicted to scamming people, does it matter what the addiction is, if you are harming other people and ruining their lives to feed your addiction?

[@limitbreak2966]

@@Death-999 yup Apparantly, with today’s society Putin might as well claim *”he was suicidal and had a panic attack because he had a war crime addiction.* Like that’s no fucking excuse to hurt others. ESPECIALLY AT SUCH A MASSIVE SCALE. Like tens of thousands? Possibly hundreds of thousands? WTF slicker.

[@klonvomhaus]

@@nicolaspace1182 The difference is in the reaction. A scammer needs to go to prison to learn that leeching off society yields punishment. An addict needs to go to a hospital to learn that spending all your money uncontrolled on gambling does not yield happiness. This guy might be both. I don't see the use in pitching the two concepts against each other. German prisons have excellent hospital wards, so putting a scammer addicted to gambling in prison and a hospital at the same time shouldn't be an issue. (I don't know where the guy is from, I'm german, that's why that's my example).

[@ayeyuh6920]

I disagree. Like Asmon says all the time, two things can be true at once, you can have sympathy _and_ think he's a manipulative terrible person. Having a gambling addiction isn't an excuse it's just an explanation.

[@Bnelen]

Rich freaking out about the Mia Malkova fleshlights was absolutely superb.

[@neo_child]

When Asmon said "I don't sympathize with him", I totally agree. If he were scamming people for money, sure, that's one thing. But then there's the clip of Trainwrecks who, randomly out of the kindness in his heart, decided to instead of consolidating his debt, Trainwrecks would just give him a flat sum to pay it all off. No one would do this for free to someone they barely know. NO ONE. And Sliker went BACK to Trainwrecks to ask for more. He was given, not one, but two chances to stop. He was given 2 rare "Get Out Of Jail Free" card to get out of a gambling debt and squandered both of it. He knew his problem, he knew his debts, and he STILL tried to scam for his addiction. Yes, he should get help. Yes, if I personally knew Sliker, I would sympathize and try to help him get out of the addiction. But that is where my sympathy stops. I will not forgive him for scamming people. Helping him out of a bad addiction is one thing, trying to downplay the seriousness of his crime and passing it off as "It wasn't you doing it, it was the addiction" is another.

[@hosakuwanderer2399]

I agree with this take on things. Not belittle the things that have been done and of course bring down a punishment on them but also trying to help them get out of there addiction.

[@atifzaman8095]

@@rasmachris94 well there is a difference between screwing somebody over for addiction and self gain. Sliker gained nothing from hurting others. He actively hurt his own freinds and people he cared about and repeatdly gambled it away. That goes beyond being a bad person. You cant compare him to some1 who uses the money to buy a big house and a car. He directly suffered the worst out of any of his victims. Allmost could be considered self-harm. At that point you have to understand sliker was clearly mentally not right. No sane human being would do what he did. Locking him away will not discourage others from doing it as he clearly was not aware of what he was doing in the first place. Punishment isnt the right solution to this. Therapy is.

[@corzarguy]

Giving him money is in no way helping an addict, Train definitely should have thought about that or at least made sure that money was making into the pockets of the wronged. To help an addict you do not want to give them money at all unless you can be sure that it goes to something that is not the source of the addiction.

[@atifzaman8095]

@@rasmachris94 bro you are litteraly saying mental health conditions dont exist. Thats a slippery slope. If somebody with psycosis murders somebody they wont go to jail because they were insane at the time. Jail is for sane people who break the law for their benefit. Asylums are for insane people who break the law because they cant see the differnece between reality and thsir delusions. Clearly sliker falls into the second category. Unless you have proof sliker did this maliciously.

[@declan9700]

we have moved from the death penalty, which ofc is wrong... to worrying about a criminal's mental health from all the crimes he's committed.

[@Joeumadd]

I mean you can’t get justice out of someone who offed themselves.

[@boneyardghoul931]

No but you can gather every shred of evidence and prove they did it, then at least they will be forever tied to the crimes. its not much but its something @@Joeumadd

[@ericbelk4180]

Dude asmon is speaking to my soul this video. My father in law is addicted to gambling and completely ruined every immediate relationship he has with loved ones by taking advantage of them and ruining there finances to feed his addiction.

[@itssupremetm]

@@greenfroggood2392 average psychotic take

[@itssupremetm]

@@greenfroggood2392 You can acknowledge the legitimacy of addiction and how it affects someone's personality and actions, but still condemn these acts

[@limitbreak2966]

1:25 IM DEAD LMAO, that face asmon gave when he said he was “suicidal” or should I say *using suicide as an excuse to be a victim*

[@NineSeptims]

he deleted that clip for a reason. nasty take. sliker deserves jail and to lose all friends and trust but he doesn't deserve to die.

[@flarestorm9417]

It's well known that self-harm is used as a tactic to make someone stay in an abusive relationship. Even if someone was legitimately suicidal they should have the decency to not put that on other people and seek out proper help when they're the one causing all the harm.

[@Gibbo_cs]

@@NineSeptims Missing the point entirely. Asmon didnt say he deserves to die. He just says he doesnt give a fuck. This dude is clearly using suicide as a scapegoat if you actually believe that then you're gullible as fuck. Ofc he doesnt deserve to die. He deserves to be rotting in prison getting bent over like the midget little rat that he is. He will be perfect prey in there.

[@DezXereanas]

1:08 wtf is that study? 12-92%? That's an error margin of 80%. You might as well say 'most gamblers struggle with suicidal ideation'.

[@bomber9912]

This incident caused twitch being only one new york times or guardian article away from another addpocalypse that will again mostly affect the average streamer... If Twitch doesnt react by first of all permanently banning Sliker, but second of all doing something - i dont care what it is - about casino and gambling streams, they will be in big trouble. This brought way too much of attention to simply ignore the issue.

[@khairusplays]

I think twitch needs to learn a lesson themselves tho. I think its about time.

[@bomber9912]

@@khairusplays I think the average twitch employee knows how bad the situation is. Not only with gambling streams, but how they treat streamers in general. But i believe that these people do not have an influence on the platform anymore. Twitch and their decisions have been more and more guided by corporate interests rather than whats good for this eco system as a whole throughout the years. They dont listen to the consumer, they dont listen to the content creators, they put in features that nobody needs nor asked for, while not implementing things that should be crucial for streaming like a basic rewind function - something youtube had since forever. They milk the people who create the revenue for them by taking 90% of the ad revenue. Then they lowered the costs of subscriptions with the promise that it would be more affordable, but instead people didnt subscribe more and Amazon keeps a bigger cut from prime memberships, which is now getting even more expensive, while streamers dont see a single dime from this increase. I think the only way Twitch will actually change is by getting massive financial losses.

[@khairusplays]

@@bomber9912 If companies pull out their ads from the platform due to the users not being ad friendly, that can cripple the website just like what happened to yt before. Im sure that if streamers are not earning much, they would switch to yt. Its only a matter of time cuz most content creators are moving out. Twitch is dying slowly.

[@bomber9912]

@@khairusplays well, that aged like a fine wine. Twitch finally decided to get their shit together and for once make the right decision by completely banning slots.

[@imblackstar]

Finally someone with the correct take! When he faked cried on stream and said he has an addiction and is suicidal and now the heat is like 75% less on him. There’s no sympathy for this dude when he doesnt have any sympathy for others who are in a worse situation than him. He’s only sad he got caught and I hope he rots in jail.

[@AstinCrow]

He said multiple times how he isn't the victim and he knew that this all was coming. No one who is empathetic to him right now is ignoring the victims or the wrongs he made. They are just disappointed at how avoidable this all was and hopes he can get the help he deserves. Most of the people who initially talked about Sliker actually met and knew Sliker, so it wasn't like it was just a bunch of random commentary channels discussing it all. Your take isn't the 'correct' take, you are just a lot harsher than others.

[@h3II0MN123]

You know what's worse? Xqc/Train potentially helping him pay off the debt. Imagine making off with a 300K bag easy.

[@AstinCrow]

@@h3II0MN123 Man, friends trying to help other friends? What is the world we've come to?!

[@Joeumadd]

@@AstinCrow it’s not even that they are helping him they are helping the people who he scammed. The streamers he took 25k+ from don’t need that money, they already knew it was gone

[@AstinCrow]

@@Joeumadd The debt is Sliker's, so it is helping him pay off his extensive debts.

[@barbs7896]

As much of a goblin Asmon is, he provides the best takes/opinions in the space. Prove me wrong

[@shreyasdharashivkar8027]

Charlie AKA MoistCritical is better than Assmonger.

[@4321Enjoy]

saying that he doesn't care if sliker offs himself already makes his entire opinion invalid... sliker is sick, his illness is drove him to his actions, if you can't see that you need some empathy classes or smth

[@brelshar4968]

Thing is, no one asked, but he will vomit out his luke warm take anyway, because he is desperatly lonely and needs constant validation. Prove me wrong.

[@catta11]

​@@4321Enjoy legit the dumbest take i have heard in a long time, especially how he tries to pretend he has the moral high ground by not giving a sh*t and anyone that cares is actually the asshole. guess that is what lack of normal interactions with other human beings does to a man

[@barbs7896]

@4321Enjoy I personally don’t care for the whole sliker situation. I think it’s a very minuscule issue in regards to society as a whole. I’m more generalising in saying that he has the best takes compared to any other content creator. In terms of mental illness I think generally the whole twitch/social media space disregards this as a motive and is relatively dismissive. I mean look at the Keemstar/Etika situation Keem literally said he should kill himself, he had no context of Etikas mental state and that comment came to fruition.

[@ricardomenacho4733]

I can see how big streamers think they’re helping by bailing him out but all they’re doing is enabling him and showing everyone else that there are no consequences.. that criminal should be put in jail for hurting sooo many people.

[@victorzheng8042]

I think it’s about the victims more so than bailing Sliker out. It’s more important to pay back those scammed by him then let them rest in legal purgatory waiting for the verdict. Sliker should absolutely be in jail though, dudes a piece of shit.

[@ZombiexSlayer1997]

This is the attitude you need to have with addicts who cross the line of stealing/scamming. Once they cross that line, there’s no going back over it, and will keep scamming and stealing until it’s no possible, either because they are incarcerated or are in a forced rehab situation. Speaking from experience with family that were/are addicts, a cousin who is a chronic heroin addict for the past 20 years that scammed and stole from family who, after 20 years of this and refusing rehab, has long since been disowned. An uncle was a gambling addict, he tried scamming but was called out and made to go to rehab. Even after he got out, his wife was in control of all the finances, because he couldn’t be trusted. So yeah, addicts can have sympathy/empathy, but don’t be naive and blind to who they hurt and absolve them of wrong doing, cause they’ll just turn around and keep doing it

[@ZombiexSlayer1997]

@@greenfroggood2392 Addiction is real, but I agree with you in so far as not making excuses for filth.

[@CannibalShadow]

Legend has it, his bank account is still locked 💀😭😭

[@hippowafflesify]

It is weird that only until yesterday really when Hasan, Miz and XQC were in the call with him and Lupeli was the only clip I saw where they actually brought it down to justice and legal matters. Because everyone beforehand that I have seen in clips only kept talking about understanding, being empathetic, feeling sorry for this guy or big streamers trying to push their ban gambling from Twitch agendas. (which yes, they should and its weird that until now Sliker's donation links are still up and so are his channel) Lupeli literally said in the call there are other people in their intertwined communities who are partnered streamers too who are also scamming people..and Sliker is the only one being exposed now because of how big it got. Sliker committed crimes! He needs to go to jail or be held accountable for it not get a free ticket now because his rich friends are willing to cover his ass.. for the second time since Train already gave him 100k to pay everything.

[@gregbro2636]

in that call they briefly talked about it going to court and sliker said that he would take what ever comes. no one was like "oh no dont sue our boy" they just wanted him to cooperate to get the people their money back.

[@Cangelvin]

I think Miz, Hasan and XQC actually didn't help, they were solving Sliker's issues and enabling him without really holding him accountable. They weren't actually bring him down to reality with all the legal and jusstice matters, feels like a slap on the wrist. He was even laughing at points during the call which really irked me. That call in my opinion is more damaging to the victims emotionally wise rather than helping.

[@NineSeptims]

@@Cangelvin they werent helping sliker thats bs they are paying the victims of the scam cuz sliker wont

[@mondmannmusik]

@@Cangelvin THIS. They just talked about him needing therapy and aaaw dont worry, we pay everyone back. They were literally enabling Slicker by showing that his rich friends have his back and that he can get away with shit like this. They were even joking and laughing in that convo, nobody brought justice to that piece of shit slicker. It was so hard to watch them protect that asshole

[@mondmannmusik]

@@NineSeptims You're wrong. With what they did they showed him that he can get away with shit like this. They were enabling him. Of course they were saying that they pay the victims back, because hmm... that's be some nice clout for them.. But still they are friends with this piece of shit and what they did was a punch in the face to all the victims. Especially Miz

[@emmetcooper]

I absolutely agree and love his point at 3:50. Hope that more people realize this whenever they're defending Sliker.

[@SkipsTinyBeard]

That is the most based take on empathy for this type of person I've heard in a long time. Bravo Asmond! Call a spade a spade.

[@ajmDRUM]

I was addicted to drugs for years. And I never stole. Or blamed anyone for my own problem. Everything was my fault. Gambling addiction is the same

[@_BELMONT_]

Same dude. I’m glad you got clean

[@eternally.confused]

I hope you got your life together now 💞 Keep fighting! :’)

[@ajmDRUM]

@@eternally.confused oh my life is together lol sorta

[@hbr6545]

I mean who the fuck lends money to some fking random dude on the internet? I mean..wtf? people never learn.... 300k in total over 300 people which is an average of 1k /person. Is everyone rich to just lend such ammount to a random dude on the internet? Can someone give me some too? Please??

[@Gojibarries]

Slicker definitions (from Oxford Languages): 1. a raincoat made of smooth material. 2. a person who is smooth and persuasive but untrustworthy. "a permatanned slicker who involves her in embezzlement and fraud" Damn who could've seen this coming...

[@crazedmadman05]

The fact that he’s not banned on Twitch is insane

[@fardown270]

No BS and straight to the point. This is why I watch Asmon.

[@wreckless1870]

Yeah I don’t care if this guy takes himself out. He deserves jail.

[@carleetodd4324]

As someone who has attempted suicide, long time ago, & continues to deal with legitimate depression, it sickens me that he's using depression or suicidal ideation as a crutch to make people feel sorry for him. Someone ACTUALLY going through that doesn't act like this.

[@XGibbyX22]

The people who want to give this guy sympathy and feel bad for him are bigger fools than the people who were played and had their money stolen.

[@Chevalier_knight]

He scammed someone on cemo id slap him unconscious, and he made my fav streamer cry .

[@T-dog-fm7wf]

Gotta love the Ludwig reupload. Keep up the good work king 👍🏻

[@HRM.H]

This just rewards his behavior and doesn't make him regret it at all.

[@IamTheaveragegamer]

Dude lived up to his name "Slicker" he pretty slickly snatched some cash from people who he knew had it.

[@Moneybill01]

Thank you someone who spoke some facts the people who got scammed are the victims but they are also idiots for giving slicker the money

[@sinsoup2803]

Just do a class action lawsuit. Toss him in jail call it a day. I’m sure other inmates would change his addiction quickly

[@boocraft4985]

The people making the excuse for him being a "gambling addict" Seem to forget that not only is he a grown man that should know right from wrong but he took money in a calculated way. He picked his targets and asked them not to say anything. He did this knowing that he will be able take money from as many people as possible before getting caught. There might be up to 100 victims... maybe more. And one that we know of is a cancer patient that needed the money. Even throughout all of this he continued to steal. And didn't have any actual plan to pay them all back. Why should I care or anyone else what happens to him after he didn't care what happens to up to 100 people??? Due to his issues and his problems. Why is it okay to forgive him for inflicting pain on up to 100 people 🤔 Sliker should be arrested for this and forgotten. If you think you're being a good person for caring about Sliker... I'd prefer to care about the 100 innocent people that thought they were doing a good thing over 1 person that did a calculated theft on those innocent people

[@katharine1229]

You need to see Ludwig’s main channel video about getting scammed out of the 100k by the Disney voice actor Grayson. This situation feels like a take two of people being bailed out, especially after Lud said the other day Grayson may be back to his old ways again already after getting such a huge pass

[@patrickwilson5393]

I don't understand how someone could even do this. This is a fundamental flaw in myself absolutely but I am absolutely to proud to ask someone for money

[@TheHorreK2]

He did it because it was seemingly easy, what i dont understand are the people that GAVE him the money.... we dont talk about 10 bucks to buy a train ticket or to fill you car or buy food we talk about individuall scams of thousands per person.... like do these people have to much money? I dont get it

[@niklasmaier2664]

there is a big difference in having a gambling addiction and getting help and ruthlessly scamming people for 300k and lying to everyone and THEN wanting sympathy and help

[@Goobzor]

no there is not. people with gambling addiction turn to friends and family all the time to "scam them" to try and win back money the lost. they ask for money for bills or food ow what ever. go gamble. they most likely lose it. then those people get mad never getting repayed. this is how they lose friends and family this is why gambling addiction is a issue. not just losing money. they turn to lying to friends and family to gamble more.

[@niklasmaier2664]

@@Goobzor never said thats wrong, but once you start doing that you should get help, not once youve already asked for 300k. thats the difference

[@soul0172]

@@niklasmaier2664 if you were in the position to ask for help it wouldnt fkn happen would it

[@Goobzor]

@@niklasmaier2664 gamblers are not going to help themselves. its normally friends or family but if they dont care or got to mad from what they did to just cut them out well they are alone to move on to other people such as close streamers then unknown streamers and then random viewers. thats the path he went on. his mom most likely has no idea what he is going though or cut him out. but from some old clips with him and his mom not sure she would but not sure. and the asking for 300k is most likely a debt owed to someone else. maybe a shark or gamble den.

[@niklasmaier2664]

@@soul0172 as a matter of fact it did

[@jamesweber8566]

He won't feel remorse unless he rots in prison for his actions. The least twitch could do is ban him.

[@NineSeptims]

how about targeting the cause and ban gambling

[@itx02]

@@NineSeptims he wasnt streaming gambling, how would that fucking help

[@The_Roach_Hiding_In_Your_Room]

That speech was like something from a TV show

[@seanbarker4610]

The Betrayal of trust is what gets me angry!

[@bingchillins]

He absolutely deserves a second chance only after accepting repercussions of jail time plus rehab

[@ubergonk]

Mental health should definitely never be an excuse when others are effected by it. When a person diagnosed with bipolar enters a manic state there's a high likelihood they will become violent in their dissociated state, so the police are called and they are removed from the situation for treatment. I think the same should be said about a person who has a severe gambling addiction who commits fraud and scams people out of their money, whether the action is taken by Twitch or the authorities. If Slicker truly needs the help he needs then he needs to remove himself from his situation with all of his risk factors around him that will make him slip back into his prior behavior.

[@captaintakis1984]

Remember guys if you gamble you can win 2000% but you can only lose 100%. Gamble it’s good you will win.

[@ramontavaresdacruz2256]

"What part of your mind tells you to think about him and not the other people who have been hurt by him?" This might shock Asmon, who's brain apparently can only think about one thing at a time, but you can think about everyone who's been hurt by him and also him at the same time. You don't have to choose between one or the other, your brain should have the capacity to consider the whole situation.

[@ShaggyDabbyDank]

Indeed, when a murderer kills 18 people you have the capacity to have empathy for the 18 murder victims and the person who murdered those 18 people. But empathizing with the killer and thinking you’re being a good person, you are being emotionally selfish and putting other peoples lives at risk. Why focus on the perpetrator when you can focus on the victims?

[@aelam02]

Empathy and punishment are not mutually exclusive. It is more than possible to not want him to commit suicide while also believing that he deserves to go to prison.

[@dominosdomino9617]

Asmong going Scorched earth lmao

[@ad34rt]

He’s a criminal but I can still feel sorry for him, given it’s a gambling addiction. It’s like how many burglaries are done by people with drug addictions. They do anything to get money, they are trapped in the addiction. Personally I would like Sliker to be punished by the law/jail time if it were possible, and then he’s free to have a second chance. I’d also ban gambling from twitch too.

[@Joeumadd]

The only time I had my house broken into was when a man so high off his ass on heroin he was walking around ass naked broke into my garage, of course I feel awful for him and his situation but the justice system still needs to do it’s thing, which it won’t cause it only exists in America to make money not help addicts recover and move on past their destructive behavior

[@internetfam902]

It's apparent that you have never had a gambling addiction to be answering in this manner. As someone who got hooked on gambling for about a year but have quit now, I'll tell you this exact remorseful understanding and coddling attitude and reaction to someone ruining their life and being an absolute loser is exactly the ammo/motivation a gambler needs to continue gambling and convince themselves it isn't that bad. What you actually need to do is call it how it is, tell the person they are a fking loser and idiot wasting their money and time chasing a dream of becoming rich fast that will never come. You have to tell to present them facts and even watch in on them while they gamble and reassure them of how much of an idiot/loser they are there loosing because 95% of the time it's all losses. Have sympathy for these people is motivation and as an x-gambling addict any and I mean ANY excuse you can have to continue gambling is the ammo and motivation people will use to keep gambling. Stop being so soft you aren't helping no one with this attitude and are actually hurting those recovering from this serious addiction.

[@patrickboian8545]

Sympathy for the scammer is wild. You have some strange fans Asmond lol.

[@rnkeene86]

'I'm addicted, so it's not my fault " I'll have to try this one out and see how it works for me.

[@gabriellee1171]

one person close to me developed alcoholism from loss of money, his income really high, but it's just enough to pay all that he owed. Although he's taking the pressure of the tough corpo life, he never could get anything he wanted, and that went on for almost 40 years...... No on thought about how they could put themselves in a prison where you pay for your own food huh

[@Nethr]

There is nothing wrong with having empathy for someone with a gambling addiction. It doesn't mean you don't have empathy for his victims and it doesn't mean you don't think he's a piece of shit for what he's done. None of those things are mutually exclusive. All of those beliefs can exist at the same time with no problem. He needs help, but concern for him does come secondary right now to the people he victimized. They need to have their money returned. He probably should face charges. I'm not convinced that he is at rock bottom and he will probably do this again.

[@diamonje]

I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready.

[@vyldim3401]

There is Gamblers Anonymous in jail too I believe.

[@TheTerk]

You: I give you money. Me: ok, we're done

[@geneyao9907]

In the first place he should be in jail right now. Did you ever think what if someone he scammed money out off takes his/her life just because of some piece of sht like sliker himself. Don’t ever be empathetic to a liar,manipulative and an addict. Have empathy to the victims not the other way around. He’s suicidal? Nahh watch how he reacts when being interviewed by hassan and mizkif. He’s making jokes and even laughing fcking disgusting

[@MyaB1986]

My grandfather was a gambler and he had borrowed money from people. But he always always returned it. Whenever he'd earn some money he'd first pay off those he borrowed from for gambling. Because he was ashamed, of gambling and borrowing and he didn't want it hanging over his head because owing money for gambling debt was bigger shame for him than gambling. Now note that this wasn't considered an illness back then, he pretty much just had to restrain himself, which he did. That was the only way to go about it back then.

[@pvsweetypie]

Sorry hun but if he was that much of a gambler that he was constantly borrowing from others there's no way he was able to always pay people back. My point? You got rose colored glasses on since he was family.

[@aster2790]

@@pvsweetypie I'm gonna surprise you, but avoiding shame is much stronger than an addiction, especially if he was living in a small town

[@MyaB1986]

@@pvsweetypie he worked and he paid back with that money. He never borrowed more than he knew he could return and he would work extra when he suffered huge losses just to make up for it. Even so in those days he'd try and buy extra stuff for the house out of guilt. Also I'm the last person to observe anything with rose colored glasses, especially when it comes to my family, but you're a literal no one on the internet and I don't have any business explaining myself to you. He'd borrow money from my mom and return it at the first chance, and after he died no one came claiming any debts. My point even wasn't about "omg my family soooo awesomeeee" but that you cannot blame everything on "mental illness" and that you STILL should have some accountability and know when to stop and how you can treat others.

[@MyaB1986]

@@aster2790 we lived in a village near a small town in Eastern Europe and everyone knew who my granpa was. Societies are more tightly knit here and pride is big factor to how the things were done then. He was so embarrassed of gambling and hated it with passion but he couldn't help himself. He'd have periods of abstinence and if he saw us play yatzee he'd freak out, sometimes tossing the dice off the table. He was really sturdy and strict but I saw him on few occasions begging my mom for money to gamble literally kneeling and acting like a biggest wuss in the world. We lived in his house back then and were sure that he'd pawn the house for gambling, or his car but he never did. Even at his weakest he knew when to stop which takes huge amount of restraint. I see people in stream defend this guy with "oh well it's an illness", yes gambling is, but bringing other people into it and treating them like shit is just a garbage human doing, not sickness.

[@h3II0MN123]

Imagine Stakes coming in for a sponsored stream to help Sliker pay back what he owes.

[@Skutch0]

One of THE BEST conversations of all time.

[@sidenote1459]

4:20 Asmongold asking the classic question every shounen anime poses... and actually answering it like a real human being.

[@kingkowala]

'backed up against the wall, you've lost; you've fractured all of your relationships and nobody wants to have you in this world' sounds like the perfect time to double down

[@aiden0109]

I think the reason people empathise with Sliker in this situation is that they know his face or have interacted with him previously whereas those who have be defrauded aren't known to 99% of the people that know Sliker. I think getting caught is the best thing to happen to him for two reasons. The first being that hopefully more people are aware that he was scamming people and the second being that if other content creators were scamming viewers, they'd know more of what an online scam looks like.

[@seifeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee]

I hope Sliker brings up making fun of one of his mods IRL where he told him that he wasn't going to pay him back. He wasn't that "sad" in that alleged situation which really makes me think that all these apologies and crying videos are fake af

[@Dorfess]

Ofcourse they are hes only sorry he got caught.

[@dogfishlol]

Completely fake. Only "sad" because he was caught. The next day he was at some stream laughing about starting a subathon and so on. Put this clown in jail.

[@imornie]

This is very sad. I hope Rich can recover from this. Not just 1 but 6! My prayers goes to Rich. :(

[@wtsang1]

And this is why we lose trust in each other in humanity as a whole, one minority can have such a huge effect on society. And this is a perfect example, one individual acts out of greed, and addiction which then compromises trust within others in the future by taking advantage of others' generosity.

[@cory1530]

Asmon understands how bad this is for twitch and streamers. Everyone trying to say he made a mistake and get views off of interviewing him does not. Streaming is a reputation game. If stuff like this continues to happen what will that do to the reputation of twitch and the streamers that use the platform?

[@imperialm1332]

the fact he also is barely looking at the camera and walking back and forth around the house is 2 signs of sus

[@blackbird42]

21:40 oof that's a bold statement. I agree, but I don't know if Twitch would like the attitude 😂

[@zibear9213]

Hey Asmon, I worked as a betting agent for a while (like cashier basically) I cannot recall the amount of times I oversaw or overheard a conv that went like Hey I'm out of money this week, lent me 50$ But you still have 300 to give me? what about those Oh I'll have it to you, I just need 50 now and theyd go and bet in another agency, just so nobody here saw them and how much money they had on hand I'm not even gonna start on how they'd "win big" and get like thousands of dollars, pay off like under 20% of them to their big backers, then disappear before everyone got word they struck it big. they'd always catch up in the end like "Yooo I heard you got the big jackpot from so-and-such 2 months ago! gimme 100$ man to play" it is legit a disease. unfortunately, not lethal enough

[@Grongooo]

7:50 it's never ever enough to pay everything back. Perfect example for gambling addiction

[@Grongooo]

HAHAH I STARTED GAMBLING ON CSGOLOUNGE TOO AS A KID LOL. But stopped forever after loosing like 1k.

[@wdsyalyn]

So I think there is a massive gap between not wanting Slicker to kill himself and defending him or his actions. I think its entirely possible to have empathy for someone whos done wrong but I also agree he shouldn't be allowed to be in a position where this could ever happen again. There has got to be a middle ground where he doesnt end up killing himself but also never gets the chance to scam another innocent.

[@sofiajohansson8537]

Best take here!

[@taylorf8642]

$300,000 is a lot of money- I don't think a lot of people are grasping that. I didn't steal your lunch, I stole lunch every day for 82 years. I didn't steal your PC, I stole your PC 200 times. I didn't steal your car, I stole 15 of them.

[@zigasi86]

As far as i remember he was driving a benzo. If he want to help his victims he should sell it and give back the money.

[@LifeAsAtlas]

I actually have developed some amount of respect for Asmond for his take. We need more of this in the world. Mercy isn't to be exploited and someone like THIS would 100% exploit mercy. He isn't being a pussy about it and isn't apologetic about it.

[@loyalsandman]

To many people trying to save him.... Just lock him up.

[@Ugotsomemilk]

Voting with your money only works, if the product is bad or the price is too high. Its only a function of supply vs demand and quality.

[@RoxyAshNightwing]

Hey Asmo I love your videos and I also really enjoyed that you, Ludwig and the rest of the dudes who have been scammed by Slick are all spreading awareness of this situation it's really good of you guys and I'm also very proud of you all banded together to bring light on this subject while trying to make sure younger generations like younger siblings or followers or subscribers or fans are more educated by staying safe and alert while using the internet. Thanks

[@theRealDarkett]

voting with your dollar absolutely works. change starts at the individual and not the group

[@a.o.skurtt]

LOL THE FLESHLIGHTS IM FUCKIN DEADDD like those fleshlights by now LOL

[@pirategoku6238]

Gambling is evil

[@jaushabakkas8127]

People, just remember batman, he has chance to end joker, yet he didn't and more people going to die, that is how you understand Asmond stand point

[@acevfx2923]

A family member of mine is exactly like this. He now sleeps on a beach in Ibiza and can't return to his home country. The people expressing the need for sympathy for whatever reason are not only on some sort of holier than thou perversion, but you're not helping slicker either. Nee, worse, you are adding to the fire. Persons running these types of scams to support these kinds of lifestyles FEED off of your sympathy and agreeableness. Your sympathy will do nothing but make you yet another victim in the long run.

[@Senzuballs]

This dude needs to see legal repercussions.

[@ariksan]

Sorry but why again are we assuming that Sliker is addicted to gambling? Because he said so? Are we taking him by his word? Seriously? This reeks like another scam. After all, he has always stylized himself as the 'master manipulator'. Now he sheds some tears and gets big streamers to prevent legal action by paying off his debt and is now able to pocket even more money using sympathy and reinvent himself as a victim. Disgusting.

[@sillymonkey725]

When someone's been streaming for that long and never bought a better mic, something's sus.

[@kapeecoffee]

Best case scenario would be him getting banned and somehow getting a lawsuit

[@ikiwheese]

Gambling of all kind should be banned. It ruins lives. People don't know how to control themselves. Loot boxes etc. All of it.

[@HDCybersun]

This is wire fraud plain and simple. Shouldn't be too bad to work with law enforcement to get that parasite arrested.

[@Aezetyr]

"A falling knife has no handle"

[@-_-_-_-_]

Holy fuck. It's insane that this went unnoticed for SO FUCKING LONG.

[@aldoleonardo220]

That YOO BRO video is like a love letter with ASMR lmao

[@jdranetz]

Sliker discovered he could gamble with money. Who would have thought? Gambling is the world's second oldest vice. 😂

[@karma-max7202]

Do a catastrophe to prevent a catastrophe lol, good one. Reminds me of an anime villain ark, and the amazing part is I genuinely believe it would work

[@CryptoThailand]

Lovin this new age asmon, no filter thank you