The BIZARRE DRAMA Between Ben Roethlisberger and Hines Ward | 2009 Steelers

After a 2009 NFL week 12 game where the Pittsburgh Steelers lost to the Baltimore Ravens, in a game that Ben Roethlisberger missed due to a concussion, wide receiver Hines Ward decided that it would be a good idea to call out Big Ben for not playing in the game, and for being soft. Let's just say that Ward received some backlash for his ill-advised comments. This is the story behind the drama of the 2009 Steelers between Ben Roethlisberger and Hines Ward
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[@SteelerFanInRI]

A player being criticized for missing a game due to a concussion is definitely an interesting time capsule into how players viewed concussions back in the day.

[@mkepioneet]

It's not even that long ago too! It's frustrating how long it took for the mentality to change

[@clintholmes2061]

@@mkepioneet "It's frustrating how long it took for the mentality to change" It's understandable seeing as how the NFL was burying any info on it.

[@SteelerFanInRI]

@@mkepioneet yeah; the fiasco where Colt McCoy was clearly concussed and the Browns threw him back in anyway was only 11 years ago

[@SteelerFanInRI]

@@clintholmes2061 one of the shittiest things they've ever done.

[@michaelhodilofficial]

@@SteelerFanInRI Browns being Browns 🤷🏻🤷🏻🤷🏻

[@northstarpokeshipper2148]

Days of our Steelers, 9 years before Days of our Steelers!

[@madtomk3318]

As soon as I saw the video on my feed, I immediately heard the music

[@EdBurke37]

I have some sympathy with Ward here. I spent years lying to people about being straight🤣

[@Matt-uh3fu]

If I wasn't straight I would too

[@rocketsfan05]

@Omar I. Sanchez Sounds like you have some repressed feelings you're dealing with

[@Matt-uh3fu]

Concussions side effects were well known long before 2009, they just didn't care as much

[@DolFan316]

It wasn't just the NFL, society itself used to view blows to the head as just a minor inconvenience. Male characters used to get conked on the head so often in movies and TV shows in the 20th century that IRL they'd have all been vegetables before age 50.

[@SuperCrazyDiscoKangaroo9001]

This Week on "Days of our Steelers" 2009 Edition.

[@michaelhodilofficial]

Captain Fat-/$& The Leader of Men was nowhere to be seen on the playing field due to a concussion. For missing the game, Psycho-/$& called him soft.... It would go on from there

[@omarrobles7851]

I'm sure this is the last controversy between Big Ben and one of his starting WR's

[@matthewdaley746]

Yeah, how, dare Hines Ward say mean things about an upstanding citizen, like, him, oh, wait.

[@vuthearithkeary4704]

I want to think Ben started this which may not be unfathomable?

[@matthewdaley746]

​@@vuthearithkeary4704 It's, probably-likely, what, happened-occurred.

[@mollyanderson657]

​@@matthewdaley746 Leader of men - Some random Yinzer

[@matthewdaley746]

​​​@@mollyanderson657Bold, declaration, really, unquestionably.

[@Roam5]

"Completing a very nice 69% of his passes" I see you JaguarGator

[@chrisrobinson8339]

Big Ben got me two rings as a Steelers fan. Much respect. I got love for Ward too tho but I totally disagree.

[@itsthediabolical1187]

Ben didn't you anything.. Heinz, Santana and our defense got "you" those rings. He also got us not even a playoff game for years in a row getting rid of AB and LB because he wanted all the money and then immediately took off and got surgery lol

[@MorningDew85]

@@itsthediabolical1187 only reason we got those rings is Big Ben, no Big Ben no rings. Ben was a god send for Pittsburgh

[@geebee6010]

@@itsthediabolical1187 If our team has been so great and Ben was irrelevant than why didn't we win a chip with those stacked teams in the 90s ?

[@primee5730]

@@itsthediabolical1187 how dare you say "our" defense while trying to clown him for saying they got "him" 2 rings... The stupidity of you

[@jasonfischer8946]

As soon as you said "Billy Cundiff", I got flashbacks. I need a hug.

[@matthewdaley746]

Don't worry, Justin Tucker would later jump in to, not, only win the SB, but, also, convince people that Lamar Jackson could actually play.

[@gluserty]

🫂. I mean, did Cundiiff watch Lee Evans get stripped of the win and say, "Boy, that's nothing; watch what I do with this field goal!"?

[@jasonfischer8946]

@@gluserty I don't think he could have because he didn't even know that he was supposed to kick. He was hurried onto the field because he wasn't even paying attention. I still don't get why we didn't use that last timeout.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@gluserty OTOH, they would have beaten the Giants in the SB, and, won the next one, just, like, the 2007 Chargers would have beaten the Giants, and, the 2017 Jaguars would have beaten the Eagles, When, Tom Brady Loses, America Wins.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@jasonfischer8946John Harbaugh's severe, "Lack Of Situational Awareness," has been there, since, he arrived, that early SB, just bought him three more years, despite, there being no justification, simple as that.

[@CTubeMan]

In the 1972 ALCS A’s Pitcher John “Blue Moon” Odom had to leave after five innings of his Game 5 start due to dry heaves. After the game his fellow pitcher, Vida Blue, accused him of choking. Odom and Blue almost came to blows as a result.

[@matthewdaley746]

That team frequently needed to be separated from each other, but, they stopped fighting just long enough to win, five Division Titles, three Pennants, and, three World Championships, the only thing they agreed upon was that they hated their owner, they, and, to a lesser degree, the Yankees of the late-1970s, both, proved that team chemistry doesn't matter, at all.

[@bobscott2429]

@@matthewdaley746 They weren't called "The Swingin' A's" for nothing! (At the plate or in the clubhouse!) And later on there were the 1978 "Bronx Zoo" Yankees. Both teams had one thing in common: Reg-gie! Reg-gie! Reg-gie! Mr. October! The straw that stirs the drink!

[@matthewdaley746]

@@bobscott2429 Yeah, like, I said, team chemistry is, seriously overrated, or, in the case of those two Championship teams, totally irrelevant.

[@bobscott2429]

@@matthewdaley746 I guess we won't be singing the 1979 Buccos' anthem "We Are Family." Lol.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@bobscott2429 That Team Sold Its Soul, for the World Series, they overcame, a, 2-0, and, a, 3-1, deficit against an Orioles team, that beat, The, Big Red Machine, but, The, Bill Came Due, right after, they won two Championships, eight years apart, with, essentially completely different rosters, and, when, it was over, it was over, for good.

[@marcus813]

I thought Ward was dead wrong at the time and he looks even worse in hindsight. Of all the people whose toughness he could've questioned, he picked Roethlisberger?! Not smart on Ward's part.

[@singingchef23]

Ward is a legend, and was one of the toughest ever. He was one of the Steelers that defined Pittsburgh, he earned it way more than Ben Roethlisberger especially in that first SB when Randle El and Ward bailed him out.

[@anthonymaestas4777]

@@singingchef23 ya but Hines should be grateful that they drafted Ben because Hines Ward would've never been in that Superbowl.. do you think they would've got there with Kordell or Tommy Maddox? Hell No. It's no coincidence that the Steelers started winning Superbowls when the got Ben..

[@matthewdaley746]

@@anthonymaestas4777 Not, a coincidence that he couldn't beat Tom Brady, but, objectively worse, teams/QBs, seemed to have no problem doing just that, truly.

[@marcus813]

@@anthonymaestas4777 The Steelers hadn't had a bona fide franchise QB since Terry Bradshaw retired in the '80s. When they drafted Roethlisberger, I had a hunch that he would be that guy and I wasn't shocked that he supplanted Maddox as the starting QB.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@marcus813 That seriously was, inevitable, they could have had Dan Marino, but, they outsmarted themselves.

[@johncate9541]

I think someone spiked Hines Ward's head on every single play for him to have such a crazy take on this...

[@jaywmeinen]

A Pittsburgh reporter used to refer to Hines Ward as, “Whines Hard.” Ward is pretty classless.

[@itsthediabolical1187]

Heinz Ward is pretty classless? Yeah you're clearly a rider! You're defending a rapist and calling someone else classless? You may wanna rethink this one

[@jaywmeinen]

@@itsthediabolical1187, I don’t know what you mean by, ‘rider,’ but I’m not defending anyone.

[@lesliebell4189]

Have you thought about doing some videos on the 2009 Browns involving George Kokinis and the 2011 Browns-Steelers game when Colt McCoy had the concussion and put back into the game @jaguargator9?

[@Nyg5618]

The Steelers did something similar years later. Ben was banged up and Landry Jones started, but Ben was the backup. Jones ended up getting hurt, and Ben ended up having the best performance by a QB that didn’t start the game in MFL history.

[@matthewdaley746]

Yeah, that crazy fact, seriously, almost, makes me forget what an incorrigible person he is, almost.

[@snowman9642]

I actually do remember this, and yes Ben was being Soft. You got to remember back in 09’, Ben’s ego was through the roof. Him not playing was him just being above the team. I don’t blame Hines ward for the hate. Listening to this video, they made a lot of excuses for Ben not playing which I don’t believe to be true.

[@grinningchicken]

I wonder if Ben personality changed from all the concussions. We talk about AB and his complete meltdown but Ben wasnt as selfish and erratic earlier on either.

[@Nyg5618]

You have that totally backwards. Ben was criticized as being a poor teammate and making poor decisions (like the helmet less motorcycle accident after Super Bowl 40). He was also called cocky, arrogant, and a poor leader early in his career. It seemed like he worked hard to get better and improve those aspects of himself, and Ben himself has said as much.

[@CTubeMan]

This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about the history of ESPN’s “Jacked Up” series, and how it came to an end, in part, because the NFL had to pay the estate of former Steelers Center Mike Webster $1 million due to concussions in his career that caused his health to deteriorate before his death.

[@Donald38]

This link provider thinks that the historian is talking about this video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHWTpoionsxno5Y

[@bobscott2429]

During the mid- to late 1980s (before "Jacked Up" was a thing), NFL Films produced shows such as NFL Crunch Course (one of my all-time faves), Crunchtime, In the Crunch, and Search and Destroy. All of them featured so many hard hits (some of which would be personal fouls in today's NFL) that were, as HOF linebacker Sam Huff said, "part of the game. And that's what people pay good money to see, the great hits."

[@d0nKsTaH]

Didnt agree with Ward at the time... and thought he was being petty. Still one of my fav players but this moment I was mad at him

[@stillaboveground2470]

There were times when Roethisberger would act like he was hurt when he wasn't. He'd be limping like crazy and then when the defense didn't put a spy on him, he'd take off running. Funny how his limp magically disappeared. If Pitt. won with injured Ben, their fans would crow about how tough he was. If Pitt. lost, it was a built-in excuse for why and then their fans would be like, "Look how courageous he was trying to help the team, despite being hurt." You never knew for sure if he was really hurt or if he was trying to fake out the defense. Homer fans spun the results to put him and the team in the best light.

[@matthewdaley746]

Kind of, like, how, they turned him into a victim when he was really just a predator, he clearly had no plan for life after football, that explains why he stayed too long, the next several years will, not, be pretty, period.

[@BobBob-eb4io]

@@matthewdaley746 maybe he just loved the game dumbass alot of players dont whant to retire when they should

[@matthewdaley746]

@@BobBob-eb4io Takes a dumbass to know a dumbass, also, this is a family site, watch your language, I'd, also, ask to think before you speak, but, the pre-school you never graduated from, couldn't ever impart that wisdom, so, why should I even try, he loved being, "needed," alas, those days are over, and, they're never coming back.

[@MikeSparksMusic]

As a Steelers fan, that season was such a rollercoaster ride! Beating an undefeated Vikings and later losing 5 games in a row🤦🏼‍♂️. I remember the Steelers picked up Palko that week because Charlie Batch was had been injured for some time at that point. It still seems ridiculous that Roethlisberger had to suit up for this game.

[@doogboh]

I maintain that if Troy doesn't go down in the opener (after a positively all-world first half), the Steelers represent the AFC in the Super Bowl, defending their crown. If memory serves, the team lost its seven defeats by a total of, like, 20 points altogether. (In the previous, SB-winning season, the Steelers nearly lost by that many points to Tennessee alone.) The team of course made the Super Bowl again the following year but were beat up with injuries after the playoff run (Pouncey out, Harrison and Polamalu playing hurt).

[@x2PhoneShawty]

Callin Big Ben soft is like calling Jesus a menace.

[@johnmilligan2964]

I'm a long time Steeler fan and I have a lot of respect for Hines Ward as a tough hard-nosed player but in this case he should have kept his mouth shut.

[@alan30189]

Heinz Ward isn’t very bright and he was a dirty player. To call Ben Roethlisberger, “soft,” is just stupid. There aren’t many tougher than Ben, including Ward. Ben probably laughed and shook his head.

[@AustinCDavis]

Goodness, based on the highlights (lowlights?) from the game, it’s amazing that Dixon only threw one pick! Looks like he should’ve thrown about five!

[@Davepool-hs7vr]

I wonder what Hines Ward thought of Kordell Stewart

[@shackdaddy7106]

I know this is not literally true. But to me Ben Roethlisberger is the biggest human being I have ever seen on a football field. He was just big. To me he just looks so much bigger than everybody else and the way guys bounce off of him when they tried to bring him down kind of reinforced that with me.

[@brianwhite3428]

I don't blame Hines Ward And if anything make management make a choice It was either Hines or Big Ben that needs to go Plus,Big Ben was old and his skills declining

[@geebee6010]

I got to give Hines Ward this L for this one. Sorry.

[@johne6106]

As a Ravens fan, I can tell you without a doubt Ben is the toughest QB NFL history. He had to play against a great Ravens Defense for a decade plus. I have seen it all from Ngata breaking Ben's nose or Bart Scott laying him out. I never once thought Ben was a wussy.

[@williamhanley7031]

How did Mike Tomlin not let every player know that he was the one who didn't let Ben play. It doesn't make sense they ward didn't know this. That's a big mis communication is you ask me. Why wouldn't Ben tell ward that coach Tomlin said no and it wasn't up to him. Doesn't make sense to me.

[@richardadams4928]

As a UGA fan, I'm predisposed to favor Hines Ward, but he MORE than cancelled that out with his multitudinous cheap shots and history of despicably dirty play. The man is an @$$h013, and this video is just more confirmation of that.

[@matthewdaley746]

Rule change, prosecution rests.

[@inzane0ne]

I genuinely dislike Ben for a lot of reasons, just an awful human, and I absolutely love Hines, but in this specific instance, and it genuinely pains me to say it, Ben did nothing wrong. Concussions are serious. Ya gotta take em serious.

[@ralphralpherson9441]

Its funny because when Ben was winning the Steelers superbowls every 2-3 years (05-08) he and Ward were thick as theives. Every piece of highlight footage is of those two hugging and celebrating like excited schoolgirls on the sidelines... then the guy gets hurt and Ward takes a low-shot at him, not cool. Unlike Ward, Ben retired a Steeler because he WANTED to, Ward just couldn't get anyone to make an offer so he hung up the cleats. I think that was kind of lame. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of Ward, he is Pittsburgh royalty around these parts, but I was really upset with him for this. Ben was still YOUNG and in his prime at this point. No reason to risk putting him in a terrible place with another 10 years left in his tank. I think Ward was seeing that his time was short and wanted another SB run before he retired. So it was kind of selfish. Even though Ben would deliver ANOTHER SuperBowl appearance for the Steelers after the 2010 season. His 3rd in a total of 5 seasons.

[@msarzo]

"It's *just* a concussion." Bruh. Thankful that we now don't say that, nor do we talk about "mild" concussions anymore. I wonder if Hines Ward and Ben Roethlisberger ever *REALLY* made up (beyond just Ward's "apology").

[@louismasar6147]

Hines was just on a different level the man would trash talk ray lewis for god’s sake

[@andrewpadaetz5549]

5:45-big time ouch for Billy Cundiff fans. I still remember that miss as it put the Pats in the Super Bowl..then watched Lawrence Tynes show how it's done as the G Men downed the Niners to be the NFC representative in XLVI.

[@matthewdaley746]

Yeah, and, fortunately, they later beat the Patriots in the SB, the Ravens would get, their kicker, their revenge, and, their SB, the season after, terrific.

[@adriankendrick4281]

Naw you can't question Ben's toughness.

[@therush757]

Wines Hard calling Ben soft?

[@bearsden0072]

Urinating Tree might disagree with the Big Ben description. He does refer to him as Captain Fat F*ck 😂

[@goddammitnappa1617]

LEADER OF MEN

[@DolFan316]

He DOES look rather bloated in this video to be fair.

[@veritasinvicta8128]

I get the feeling that were Ben black Hines wouldn't have said jack.

[@carloscolon3331]

I herd about this before

[@DoobieKeebler]

Weird to call Ben "former." Also ironic to talk about Ben taking "beatings" ...... * _rimshot_ *

[@mustaffa1611]

we got a meme here in pittsburgh of ben laying on the field and 2 other steelers standing over him saying "ben, ben, come on, get up, that was just the coin toss." hines is loved by everybody in pittsburgh while ben is hated by half. big ben is a clown.

[@SteelerFanInRI]

Agreed.

[@drewdixon5556]

A clown that got you 2 superbowls

[@matthewdaley746]

@@drewdixon5556 Yeah, and, lost a SB to Aaron Rodgers, who, also, can't beat Tom Brady, although, Eli Manning, Joe Flacco, Nick Foles, and, Matthew Stafford, can easily.

[@1USACitizen192]

@@matthewdaley746 Mostly Tomlins fault.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@1USACitizen192 Entire football parties culpable.

[@dodoubleg2356]

Got nothin' but love for #86, but this ain't the 1st time he's thrown Ben under the bus...AND, HE GAVE BB#7 A HARD TIME FOR HIM THROWIN' TEAMMATES UNDER THE BUS!! Sometimes you have to play smarter, not harder. Suppose BB#7 started & then suffered another concussion since they WERE PLAYIN' B-MORE. His season, possibly CAREER could've been ended. C'mon now Hines. Pgh loves you, but that was grimy.

[@Toucanbird]

I’ll flat out say this. I have a lot of respect for Hines Ward. The guy alongside Steve Smith were two of the toughest wide receivers I’ve seen play the game. I have a lot of respect for Big Ben as a football player, but I don’t respect him one bit as a person. However, I completely disagree with Hines here. It would be one thing if Big Ben had a nagging injury, but this is a concussion we’re talking about here. You don’t mess with concussions and perhaps knowing what we know now with CTE, it’s possible Hines may have done a complete 180 if he knew just how badly CTE messes up your brain. You just don’t take any chances with concussions. Ever. I think all he would need to do is take a look at how his former teammate Antonio Brown turned out…but then again, AB had issues even before the concussions/Burfict hit. All-in-all, this was a really stupid take by Hines. I get it, he let his emotions get the better him and the Steelers coaching staff/medical personnel handled this about as poorly as they could possibly could have. However, as my mom used to say, if you’re afraid people will think you’re an idiot, you can either keep your mouth shut and let them to come to their own conclusions or open your mouth and prove them right. Hines chose the latter and we see what it got him.

[@matthewdaley746]

This is a player who got rules changed because of vicious hits, expecting him to say the right thing is unrealistic, however, considering the target of his vitriol was Ben Roethlisberger, this is one of those times when I can't root for, either, side.

[@Toucanbird]

@@matthewdaley746 Look, I hate Ben Roethlisberger as much as the next guy, but I don’t wish anything as atrocious as CTE upon him or any football player for that matter. While I am not looking to give Big Ben an escape route for his poor off-field decisions, who knows? Maybe CTE played a factor in some of those decisions (although, I’m more willing to believe he’s just an awful person).

[@matthewdaley746]

@@Toucanbird He's just an execrable person, but, his, defenders/apologists, expect the rest of us to believe that he's a victim, they're as bad as he is, just awful, simple as that.

[@DolFan316]

@@matthewdaley746 All I'll say about Roethlisberger is that in recent years a LOT of people have exhibited behavior as bad or worse than his and not only gone unpunished but been cheered on by society and the media because they have the "proper" political beliefs or belonged to one of the privileged groups whose members can do whatever they like while claiming to be victims.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@DolFan316 He was Aaron Hernandez, he simply decided to rape, not, kill, period.

[@Adriel_Aviado]

There's no drama. Big Ben loves Hines ward.

[@snookdock]

Number 27 rashean Mathis ruined everything that Roethlisberger wanted to do

[@garydarland5259]

Ward was one tough sob, end of story.

[@ksimon6485]

Figured it would be over Ben being a horrible human being off the field… oh well.

[@matthewdaley746]

Pittsburghers forever in denial.

[@adriankendrick4281]

Man that Steelers 2009 season was a weird one. 8 straight games giving up a return touchdown and some really bad losses. And yet they still had a shot at the playoffs.

[@matthewdaley746]

That was, also, the first of two straight years where the best team was clearly the Patriots, yet, somehow, they didn't even reach the AFC Championship Game, how, incredibly bizarre.

[@adriankendrick4281]

Yes they got handled by the Ravens and the Jets.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@adriankendrick4281 Yeah, they would have beaten, the Saints, and, the Packers, the 2011 team wasn't nearly as good, but, they made the SB, where they would meet, the Giants, you know the rest.

[@johnny__topside]

@@matthewdaley746 that 2009 Patriots team was dreadful. They beat up on bad teams and lost to anyone who was average or better. Their defense was awful

[@matthewdaley746]

@@johnny__topside They would have beaten the Saints, just, like, they would have beaten them in 2017, they didn't take the Eagles seriously, at all, benched Malcolm Butler, and, still only lost because Tom Brady was too pigheaded to take the sack.

[@retrogaminggenesis6102]

Glad that woman respecter is finally retired. Gonna be cool to see the Steelers suck again after getting so lucky last year.

[@BobBob-eb4io]

We'll see i think mitch or picket can perform better then bens undead corpse

[@SteelerFanInRI]

I feel like this analysis relies on the idea that the Steelers were winning last year because of Ben and not 100% in spite of him; dude should've hung it up after he got injured in 2019.

[@mustaffa1611]

@@SteelerFanInRI ...or hung it up when he started raping women.

[@UserName-ts3sp]

if you watched the steelers at all the last two years, you would know their offense has been playing with their hands tied behind their back.

[@DolFan316]

How do you feel about Deshaun Watson? Asking for a friend.

[@DolFan316]

IMO Ward calling out Roethlisberger for calling teammates out in public, after calling him out in public, was worse. He was right about the 2010 suspension BTW, but I can't help but wonder how he feels about Deshaun Watson.

[@matthewdaley746]

The, "suspension," was a bad joke, he should have been suspended for the entire season, and, cut, immediately following, but, the NFLPA, would never allow that, and, The, Rooney Family, didn't want him going to a rival, throughout that SB, the thought of him doing talk shows, over the Summer, while, promoting, "The, Redemption Tour," made me physically ill, luckily, the Packers prevented such a disaster, Deshaun Watson will take cues, claiming to be a victim, while, behaving, completely, otherwise.

[@DolFan316]

@@matthewdaley746 And then there's Ray Rice...

[@matthewdaley746]

@@DolFan316 Ray Rice possessed the, "misfortune," of being videotaped, ultimately, it ended his career, although, being a RB surely didn't help.

[@whitemamba24xe98]

Hines Ward was just jealous of Big Bens ability to respect women!

[@fnyourmom3064]

Hines GOATEE

[@kenmograd2009]

“Nobody in this city [Pittsburgh] actually likes Ben Roethlisberger; we merely tolerate him because he can somehow throw a football and he isn’t Kordell Stewart.” -UrinatingTree

[@Jared40]

Big Ben HOF .....PLEASE 😅🤣🏈

[@matthewdaley746]

Underachiever's HOF, just definitely.

[@bobscott2429]

@@matthewdaley746 The Hall of Very Good?

[@matthewdaley746]

@@bobscott2429 Perhaps, incrementally absolutely realistic.

[@stevereber]

BIG BEN HAS A HISTORY OF GREAT BUT PSYCHO RECEIVERS LOL 😵‍💫😋 Ward & Brown

[@bobscott2429]

You can add Plaxico Burress and Martavis Bryant.

[@stevereber]

@@bobscott2429 Lol 🤣 Yep

[@bobscott2429]

@@stevereber Something else to consider: With the exception of Hines Ward (14 years) and Antonio Brown (9), Big Ben has had a history of receivers who would play a short time (3-5 years) with the Black & Gold, and then leave to play for other teams: Nate Washington, Antwaan Randle-El, Mike Wallace, Emmanuel Sanders, Santonio Holmes, Plaxico Burress, Markus Wheaton, Martavis Bryant, and JuJu Smith-Schuster. Funny that "psycho" receivers Ward and Brown would stay the longest. But wait; there's more: Now that the team has new signal-callers in Kenny Pickett and Mitch Trubisky, will Diontae Johnson and Chase Claypool eventually follow suit? Time will tell.

[@stevereber]

@@bobscott2429 love chase claypool. You bring up a good observation. The Steelers are freaky with there ability to pick RECIEVERS and make it work. Funny you point out Brown & Ward stayed the longest 🤔😁. But Brown was potentially going to be one of the best ever. A shame.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@stevereber His own fault, period.

[@UserName-ts3sp]

ben was great but he definitely exaggerated things a bit sometimes and was a bit of a drama queen. this wasnt really an example of that, but its something hes done over the years. im a steelers fan but id have to say rivers and eli were honestly tougher than ben (not better tho)

[@matthewdaley746]

Eli Manning was better against Tom Brady, Bernard Karmell Pollard was the only reason why he won a second SB, no question.

[@UserName-ts3sp]

@@matthewdaley746 ben had the better career tho. eli had the best sb performances tho

[@matthewdaley746]

@@UserName-ts3sp Did he, really, he beat Matthew Hasselbeck in the SB, and, a washed-up Kurt Warner, not, to mention, he lost a SB to Aaron Rodgers, who, likely, never wins another, and, his last years were painful to watch, despite, flashes of brilliance.

[@Giantsfanlewis]

@@matthewdaley746 also his first superbowl is tainted by a ref from the game admitting to helping the steelers win

[@matthewdaley746]

@@Giantsfanlewis Jerome Bettis winning the SB in his hometown in his final Game was something that the Seawhawks just weren't going to overcome, truly was.

[@DolFan316]

Roethlisberger and Ward patched things up so well that the Steelers lost their next two games to the 3-8 Raiders and 1-11 Browns.

[@matthewdaley746]

Yeah, if anybody needs any further proof that they only won the SB the previous year because Tom Brady went down, there it is.

[@jacobmcguire2218]

Dumb comment. Won a Super Bowl in 05 and 08 together. And still went back to the Super Bowl in 2010. They had a great run

[@matthewdaley746]

@@jacobmcguire2218 Dumber retort, where was the lie, his career overlapped Tom Brady's for 18 years, and, he, not, only never beat him in a Playoff Game, he barely ever beat him, at all, far worse teams than his dispatched Tom Brady several times, the truth is often dumb, period, his run was adequate, Steelers fan, I gather.

[@andrewgrove1691]

@@matthewdaley746 Tom got what he deserved

[@jacobmcguire2218]

Dude we get it. You’re a Pats nut hugger and you don’t like the Steelers. Commenting on everybody’s post like this is your vid or something. Weird. It’s fine, but don’t act like the Steelers weren’t good. Cuz you’re wrong. They’re number 2 behind New England in win percentage since 2000. I’m not arguing about them being better than the Pats over that stretch and not even gonna get into Spygate talks. Brady is the best QB of all time so yeah Ben doesn’t compare to that. But 2 rings, 18 years in the league, top 5 in numerous categories, and hall of fame career is more than adequate lol. Who cares if bad teams beat the Pats if they were still bad. Pats had Steelers number with Brady, doesn’t negate their accomplishments. Pats coulda shoulda woulda in 2005, 2008, 2010 but didn’t. I see you’re also arguing 09, damn why not give them an excuse for every year😂. But you’re illogical so enjoy rewriting history

[@SteelerFanInRI]

Also, funny in hindsight that Roethlisberger talked about how hurt he was from being called out in the media, and then, almost a decade later, he called out James Washington, who was a rookie at the time, on his radio show to blame him for not catching a pass that HE overthrew, in a game where HE threw two picks that literally caused the Steelers to lose. Guess he learned nothing from this.

[@chrisrobinson8339]

Hey. Big Ben got me two rings.

[@SteelerFanInRI]

@@chrisrobinson8339 lol me too; I'm a Steelers fan as well. That moment after that Broncos game in 2018 truly soured me on him forever though, which is saying a lot given his history; calling out a rookie on your radio show after YOU lost the game? Really?

[@UserName-ts3sp]

yes that was an embarassment. really spelled the collapse coming the following weeks too. at least ben got off his radio show

[@DolFan316]

@@UserName-ts3sp IMO no NFL QB should have a radio show when he's playing. Afterwards it's okay, but during opens the door for too much to go wrong.

[@pp3k3jamail]

💥💥 I never like Hines ward and he wouldn't even have a championship if it wasn't for Ben roethlisberger nor would Hines Ward even be a hall of fame wide receiver if it wasn't for Ben roethlisberger and I'm not even a Ben roethlisberger fan.

[@captkirk6145]

Ben was the biggest drama queen to ever play the game! Have to believe that Hines knew more about Ben than most.

[@Heretowatchstuff]

Cause he stopped watching porn?